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Femgen - hormone arguments edition

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Femgen

Femgen FAQ:
▶What is a femguy/femboy?
An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. Mostly gay, but not all.
▶Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
▶Can I be a femguy?
Often with enough effort, yes. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
▶Should I go on HRT?
If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
▶Is liking femguys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
▶Skincare resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki/index
▶Hair care resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/haircarescience/wiki/index and /r/FancyFollicles
▶Beginner makeup resources: https://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860 and youtube tutorials

http://pastebin.com/uUXYGwTH
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>>6706239
You DON'T take hormones and SERM at the same time friend. You have to make a choice

>stop masculinization without breasts
>stop masculinization with breasts but also super feminization

>>6706238
Fuck I was about to make it myself
>no anime pic
one JOB nigga
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>>6706261
What's the point of serms then? Just to make it safe to use AAs long term? I was under the impression that a selective estrogen receptor modulator made you more receptive to estrogen in selected areas, and thereby having feminizing effects.
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>>6706296
The feminizing effects are absolutely minimal. The AA can give you better skin though. But yeah it's literally nothing compared to actual estrogen. It's just for people who totally need to avoid any kind of breast or they will get tortured by their parents and beaten up to death on the streets or something.

>>6706299
Suck my functioning dick
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>>6706261
Get your Asian Symettra out of here faggot
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>>6706296
They definitely make you less receptive, but I was under the impression that it was targeted (selective) thus gynecomastia could be prevented but other feminizing effects would still be present. Has anyone actually tried this out? Googling only brings me to /fit/ trying to stop their gyno or research about postmenopausal women and breast cancer.
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>>6706313
Kill yourself and take your ugly twink picture to the grave with you
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>>6706327
>wanting the op to be an anime girl instead of a twink in what is (should be, anyway) essentially a twink general

>>>/mtf/
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>>6706372
>femboys should be twinks
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>>6706238
why isn't the zeemap being posted anymore?
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>>6706372
but I don't want to be a twink
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>>6706397
>doesn't post it
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>>6706383
sorry, I forgot that they're "boys" with tits doped up on estrogen with long ass hair, but that sounds a bit like a tranny, doesn't it?

yes, femboys should be closer to twinks more than anything else
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>>6706399
Femboy = xtra fem twins
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>>6706407
Twinks. Fuck mobiles
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>>6706404
Yeah there used to be a twink general but it died because nobody wants to be a generic twink. Go remake twink general then?
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>>6706327
holy shit its メアリーさん.
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>>6706401
>>6706238
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=793617
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>>6706383
femboys basically are twinks tho. it's only here on femgen that it translates to mtf-lite
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>>6706435
twinks have literally nothing to do with femininity beyond shaving

You can be a twink femboy, sure. Being a twink doesn't mean having a feminine hairstyle, or using feminine clothes or using make up. At all.
They mean different things, not mutually exclusive but still very different.
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>>6706261
You could cycle, few months of one then months of other
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>>6706474
I heard about the idea but never actually saw anyone here trying that. I'm interested in trying it.
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>>6706472
Op here. The boi in the pic alone isn't all that fem (although the hair and body are kinda femboy) but the body motion and assumed attitude of the subject is femboy worthy imo.
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>>6706494
that was always the point you mong
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>>6706472
>twinks have literally nothing to do with femininity beyond shaving

Lol. Before the term femboy came around, you were either a twink, a crossdresser or a transvestite.

There wasn't a lot of terminology to toss around.

Twinks -would- wear female clothes and have girly hairstyles and painted nails and all that good stuff.
Years later, we have the term "femboy" because these new "twinks" are capable of making it an art of its own.

The only real diff between a twink and a femboy is how MUCH girly stuff one does over the other.
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>>6706515
How so? The classic serm guide picture doesn't even include estrogens unless I'm remembering wrong
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>>6706439
Because before I started I used to masturbate about 5-6 times a day. I'm straight and went to a private hs with all girls, over 300 girls and only 12 boys cause the school had just gone co-ed. Blue balls were pretty much a daily occurrence for most of us. Say what you want, but uniforms are easily the best thing on earth.
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>>6706472
Twinks are often smaller, have a slim build, have no body hair, submissive, and look and act girlier than the average guy. These are feminine qualities and the terms twink and femboy should be almost interchangable.
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>>6706536
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_estrogen_receptor_modulator
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Hey /femgen/

I'm basically a manlet (164cm) and I'm not dedicated enough for /fit/ and right now I just want to have normal slimmish twink legs instead of the thick thunder thighs that I have now (52cm at their thickest)

What do?
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>>6706551
It's the "when does a rock become a boulder" idea.
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>>6706534
Thistbh
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>>6706599
post pics so we can give advice
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>>6706609
Here
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>>6706620
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>>6706620
can't see butt or legs in general. stand up, take frontal and side shots.
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In 2 weeks, I'm going to go to the makeup store in the mall and ask for help.

Any advice? Or alternatives?
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>>6706425
>https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=793617

May as well use the new /cuteboys/ map, at least it's not full of ancient markers anymore

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2109503
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>>6706671
well someone needs to make sure it gets into the OP
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post boiboobs qts
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>>6706641
How fem are you. Are you taking anything
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>>6706798
Not on anything, just really gay.
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>>6706759
+1
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>>6706817
go super light on the makeup, guys really don't need it and if you go too far with it you'll just end up looking like an ugly tranny
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i like u guys
can we cuddle
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>>6706847
makeup looks ugly on anyone that goes too far with it
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>>6706641
where do you plan on going? what store?
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>>6706902
probably Sephora
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>>6706372
>>wanting the op to be an anime girl

Man I sure am glad I'm on this anime image board
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>>6706960
please leave.
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>>6706983
Good reply, friend
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>>6706910
sephora is good, but find a manager type and ask them to match you with an artist that can help, b/c most are experienced w cis fems

and it helps to have a clear goal of what you want help with. and have some money b/c the stuff they sell is 3-4x more then say target.

i'd recommend learning on your own or finding someone who's willing to work w a complete noob. the pro shops will always be there when you're ready.
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where can I purchase a femboy i want to use one as a teddy bear when I go to sleep
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>>6707016
kys maki
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>>6706599
Eat a lot of fiber
Lose weight
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So what do you twinks do and take to get that bubble butt and bigger breasets?
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>>6707007
Maybe I should call ahead, then? See if there's someone there willing to work with me?

As a consumer, I hate testing the waters blindly and I feel as though, with makeup, I'd have to do a lot of that.
I'm also in a new town and have no female friends yet, so something more personal really isn't an option.
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There's this guy at work who is the finest creature I've ever seen walk the planet.

Is it weird if I thought about him while I touched myself?
Would it make it weird when I had to go to work and look at him?
Should I do it anyway?

Fuck, he's so hot.
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>>6707028
you don't know what you want and so I doubt someone who normally works on fems is going to get it right either.

for the cost of your first trip to sephora you can buy loads of stuff @$7-10ea

i hate hearing it, but youtube is your friend
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>>6706261
Hey, so I've never heard about SERM before. I always thought it was an all or nothing deal with hormones and wasn't ready to take that leap (because of breasts etc). Should I start with SERM? How would you go about acquiring it?

I'm a pretty masc looking gay guy who would like to become much more fem and pretty.
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>>6707040
I figured I'd go there for one item at a time. Start with eyebrows, then eyeliner, then fake lashes, then experiment with concealer and lip stuff once I'm comfortable with shopping.
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>>6707046
>don't drink the kool aid
pills are not going to make you fem nor pretty
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>>6707053
Okay, maybe pretty wasn't the right word to use. I'm already an attractive male (but masculine looking) what exactly would it do to me? I would like to look more feminine. What would be the positives and negatives of taking it for someone like me? It was mentioned you age less like a man? That sounds good to me.
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>>6707047
Well, not one item but one idea at a time, so that way there's a tangible goal for the staff to work for.
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>>6707071
SERMs are experimental as fuck because it's only femboys who take them. They don't serve MTFs any purpose.

From what I've gathered from anons in the thread, it doesn't feminize you it just halts the masculine ageing process.

If you want to look Andro you go HRT. If you want to stay boyish you go SERMs. If you're a tranny you go back to /mtfg/.
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>>6707071
aging is aging, although one user said that pretty women at older ages are only pretty because of a tilted E:T ratio but didn't offer anything to back that up so iunno.

Aging well comes down to genetics and healthcare as far as I can see.
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>>6707028
just buy cheap chinese shit online and then mess around with youtube until you figure out what you want
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>>6707080
>although one user said that pretty women at older ages are only pretty because of a tilted E:T ratio but didn't offer anything to back that up so iunno
Anons talked about this a few threads back. Testosterone essentially affects you all your life giving you more masc features. Estrogen stops that but for women they hit menopause and end up looking like old ladies. Most old trannies only look old because they started in their 40s to 50s like retards, when you've got the right E:T levels and can't hit menopause you might as well be a vampire.

Wish I bothered to save some of the examples that were posted. There were some real qts in their 30s.

Richard O'Brien was another example anons used though as he's in his 70s and looks more like he's 50-60 as that's around the time he decided he was tumblrsexual.
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>>6707079
>If you want to stay boyish you go SERMs
so as an already masculine guy who has pretty much finished up with puberty (24), this would be pointless?
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What undies does /femgen/ wear?

I usually go for boxers, boyshorts and very very rarely thongs (very rarely).
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>>6707093
it's never too late, you'll only get more masculine as you age
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I heard that putting a tight elastic band around your balls for a decent period of time will make them fall off somewhat painlessly.

True or false
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>>6707093
Probably, SERMs are still experimental as fuck but HRT's generally the way to go if you want to remove masc features. The big downsides there are tits and sometimes ending up looking like a failed trans.
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>>6707099
>somewhat painlessly
No, it will be painful and dangerous and not just a regular rubber band will work. look up elastrator
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>>6707099
enjoy gangrene and actual death
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>>6707079
>SERMs are experimental as fuck it's only femboys who take them
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24373794
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>>6707093
Live as long as you possibly can, wait for brain transplants.
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>>6707096
>>6707100
Thanks both. How would i go about getting HRT or SERM? obviously not from a doctor right? I'm pretty sure they only give them to trannies
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>>6707111
Only femboys who take them for the purpose we do, I was implying, anon

>>6707117
alldaychemist or inhousepharmacy.

It depends on the legality of where you live as well
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>>6707111
also general reminder that FDA approved chemicals aren't "experimental"
http://www.rotlaw.com/legal-library/what-does-fda-approval-mean/
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>>6707118
thanks :)
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Hey /femgen/ post some fits that falls right in the sweet spot of femguy: neither too normie-twink-y but not so far as to be crossdresser trap.

Picture unrelated (sadly)
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>>6707137
I am also interested in this, I can never find the perfect qt outfits
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> hormone arguments edition
hormonal augmentation edition*

fixed for accuracy
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>>6707094
boxers and panties
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>>6707271
I never asked for tits...
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>>6707094
trunks and panties.

the calvin klein magnetic collection is the bomb
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>>6707312
l o l
o
l
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>>6707119
>In the simplest terms, “FDA approval” means that the FDA has decided the benefits of the approved item outweigh the potential risks for the item’s planned use.
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>>6706578
I know I'm 6 hours late but
>"the point was always about cyling them with estrogen"
>"no, femgen only takes serm with bicalutamide, like the picture guide says"
>posts wiki article
what
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>>6707511
if I take serms with spiro will I die or something
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>>6707558
N-No that's the point of the serm. People only take bica instead of other AAs here because it doesn't fuck that much with the weewee and the libido. I take spiro and estradiol personally and my dick is fine though because I jack off everyday
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>>6706578
The only complication I see with stacking raxolifene and an estrogen is having estrogen in excess in your bones. It would selectively block that estrogen in the breasts.
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Is my tummy good?
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I'm thinking about actually cyvling SERM with estrogen. What do you guys think would be a good cycle timeframe?

Change every month? Every weak? Bimonthly?
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>>6707683
pretty nice anon
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>>6707683
Don't mind me, anon, just using your tummy as inspiration to fix my fat one
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Who
>>>/r9k/30573860
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>>6707033
Make him touch ur boyboobs
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So are all femboys bottoms?
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I really need guides about eyebrows. All guides in the internet try to make you into a fucking drag queen abomination. Can someone spoonfeed me a nice guide relevant to our purposes?
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>Want to be a femboy
>But don't want boiboobs
Is there anyway to avoid growing boibewbs on HRT without killing my internal organs?

I'm super anxious enough as it is. Boibewbs would kill me.
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>>6708105
Cycling SERMs with estrogen is the only option. But we lack results and we are waiting for a hero to try it for several years and see how it ends.
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I posted this as its own thread but was told to go here.

Is there such a thing as dysphoria without being trans?

I'm going to try and write short sentences so there's less for you to read.
I'm gay, 18 years old, and single/virgin. For about a year and a half, I've had a feeling which is becoming more and more intense in recent months. I feel like my body on the outside doesn't match how I feel on the inside. My body is fairly - but not overtly - masculine (broad shoulders, pretty hairy legs, masc face). The thing is is that on the inside, my image of myself is a lot more feminine or at least "effeminate". I love boys and love being a boy, and I'm 99% sure I'm not a girl.
What do? All of this worsens my depression
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>>6708218
Many elitist trannies will tell you no, but I too am dysphoric and cis. I have no desirr whatsoever to become a girl at all but I've been dysphoric about my masculine features since I can remember. I am 21 now and just recently started hormones, I wish I started at 18 to be honest, but I still look very young and 21 is nothing to worry about anyway.

You are lucky you are considering it since early because it took me a long time to accept that dysphoria without trans is actually a thing.
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A few small questions about skincare
If I shower in the morning, should I still cleanse my face after I shower or can I skip that?
Also if my moisturiser has sunscreen in it, can I skip sunscreen or should I apply some over anyway?
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>>6708279
It's best to shower in cold water in the morning and warm water at night but if you can choose one, night is better, unless you aquire bo in your sleep. I exfoliate every night on my face and use this pink soap with beads in it
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>>6708311
>showering twice everyday
How do people do this, I barely manage once, I'm so lazy
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>>6708318
The cold water is crucial on the morning shower. If you do 2 hot showers you will get oily skin and dry hair. The morning shower really only includes a rinse and body wash
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>>6708311
>t's best to shower in cold water in the morning and warm water at night
I've heard of cold showers being good for you but why warm showers at night?

>>6708318
I shower once in the morning and again at night after I'm done working out. It's not that bad really.

My shower in the morning is pretty long since I'm also shampooing/conditioning/makeup/etc, but at night I just pop on a shower cap, rinse myself off with cold water and body wash and I'm out in a few minutes.
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>>6708334
I'm always so cold at morning even in fucking summer, there's no way I can take a cold shower. I'd prefer boiling water m8
Is there some super special secret for this or just become immune to cold
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>>6708344
It's pretty fun for me to be completely freezing. Cold showers also burns a bit of calories
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>>6708344
Your body needs to get used to cold water first. If you've never been in cold water before you'll probably want to die the first few times. It's easier to get used to cold showers/baths if you're a swimmer for instance.

The way I got "warmed up" (kill me) to cold showers was by taking cold baths first. I thought it'd be easier to submerge myself in cold water first than to just be barraged by it.

Another good thing about cold showers is that if you're a fag that takes hour long showers, there's no way you'll still be taking long showers in cold water.
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I'm broke as fuck and don't think I'll be able to start HRT until later this year when I turn 21 and move back in with my parents.

How fucked am I? Should I even bother with HRT by that point?
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>>6708429
21 is nothing m80
As long as you are naturally cute of course
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>>6707857
great, add fat NEETs on hormones to the list of trannies and non-femboys that make up 90% of the general
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>>6708514
>imma TRUfemboi xd
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>>6708528
fat tranny NEET uggo detected
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>>6708470
>As long as you are naturally cute of course
h-haha yeah mate of c-course
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>>6708392
Is it wrong to wash your face during your morning shower?
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>>6708256
I don't think I want to do hormones, I don't want tits and I might want to have a surrogate mother for a child in the future
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>>6708622
Freeze your sperm / spermbank.
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>>6706238

Yes, yes.. but can we fuck? That's all that matters here.
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please post your boiboobs i need them
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>>6708685
your boiboobs i need them
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>>6708614
When using oil control chemicals like benzoyl peroxide and saylitic acid the sun can cause burning and even worse, increased tanning. Waiting till the end of the day is better. Also your bed and pillow stays clean, so you don't aquire many oils during sleep, however, you do get back your top layer of skin ( that you should have exfoliated the night before)
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Where the real pics at, of beautiful femboys.
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>>6708715
This is a general, not a gallery
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i want to see some boiboobs
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>Obsessed with cute things
>Want to be a cute femboy
>Going to start HRT soon
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>BUT
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>I'm not hard-gay
>I mean I'm bisexual but I'm a top and kind of a dom
>Not particularly into getting fugged in the bum, more of a giver than a receiver
>tfw
Shit sucks man.
The only people I can find that are into me are the sort of faggots that want me to be their sissy boy. I'm not really about that though. I doubt I'll get a girlfriend on HRT too.

Am I going to be alone forever, /femgen/?
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>>6708860
Maybe if you ease up a bit you'll be princemode and can get girls again? Girls largely don't have a problem with cute boys, I think.
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>>6708872
>Girls largely don't have a problem with cute boys, I think.
but the boibewbs anon
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>>6708860
>>6708888
Think about your everyday life before your sex life.
But you might want to also be a SERM/estrogen cycling guinea pig in your specific case.
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>>6708860
There is plenty of femboys who like femboys and the majority of femboys are bottoms.
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>>6707683
>not showing boiboobs
stop being a faggot
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dumb maki poster
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>tfw $2000 saved for girl pills
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Anyone else get inexplicable skin bruises while on AA? Idk if it's even related to taking AA.
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>>6708980
With spiro yea, also had very low blood pressure made it hard to exercise

Then again I was underweight and didn't have as much subcutaneous fat as I needed
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>>6708888
This tbqh, even if they think you're a cute, pretty boy the ones who'd be into that would probably be disgusted if they found out about the tits and stuff
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>>6708992
Fug i thought i had lukemia. Is this dangerous territory with spiro? I don't even take that much.
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Is there a way to submit myself to scientific research on the effect of SERMs? Would there be an age requirement to this supposed medical experiment?
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>>6708998
tits on a guy is gross af
but look on the brightside, you can always be a non passing guymode tranny
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>>6709059
There would be no research on serms' effect on a healthy male body. If there would be one, they would probly not allow you to take a AA
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I'm gonna do it for you, friends. Once I have money
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>anime avatars outnumber actual images posted
This is the death of femgen, may it rest in peace
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Am I fem enough?
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>>6709314
Do you even know what an avatar is you fucking reddit newfag
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>>6709164
But I had to start cropping my hair short and get underweight to keep passing as a boy. And even then most assume I'm a kid.

Wouldn't be that hard to go full mtf if that was what I want, it isn't, I'm not a tranny.
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>>6709314
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>pop my first pill
>put on a ponytail
>go outside
>get whistled by a guy in a car

hrt mememagic
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>>6709164
>non passing guymode tranny
lol that was me before i went femboy mode lol

inb4 red
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>>6706609

Actually, i'm the same way, due to doing figure skating and then biking. I'd like to get my thighs and calves down, I don't know if it's just losing a lot of weight until I start losing muscle or I need to tone my legs?

Some of my measurements:

5'8" 35-29.5-37
Thigh: 21.2 inch
Knee: 15 inch
Calves: 15 inch
Ankle: 9 inch

As opposed to my upper body:

Bicep: 11.4 inch
Forecep: 8.7 inch
Wrist: 6.5 inch
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>>6708093

just go slow, and stop every couple of minutes and see what shape you are looking for, where it's going, where you want it to go, etc...

In general, I try to follow pic related
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>>6709314
Blame >>>/r9k/30573860
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>>6709583
Why would you reply to yourself like this
Here let me help you
(You)
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>>6709593
I'm not even the first one to link to that thread anon.

Unless you're trying to imply I'm >>6709314 in which case you're an autist
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>>6709613
that's hurtful tbqh
bois can have bewbs too you bigot!
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>>6709668
>jewish concept of beauty
I only follow my japanese concept of beauty folded over 1000 times
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>>6709668
>jenova from final fantasy 7.
who is it and why do qt puffy nips remind you of that?
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>>6709708
>Good that means you're going to be delicious flat chest.
I hope. I am going to become a SERM cycling hero or die trying.

If I fail I guess I'll have to live with a small chest but not a big deal I think
Or die because of poisoning or something
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Any advice on dating as a hormone popping femboy with tits? Been at it like 3 years.

Hate and unhelpful comments will be ignored.
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I've been hooking up with a fat daddy type guy for the past few weeks.
I cum really good, but I don't know how to feel about it.
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>>6709708
luckily i can't grow any boobe at all and i am on a high-estrogen dose :^)
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>>6709728
How much of a femboy? Emo twink femboy, anime trap femboy, or tranny femboy?
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>>6709728
>no pics
Kill me now
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>>6709742
Not a tranny but physically I've become this girlboy thing, so I guess tranny femboy in a physical sense.

I've been in a relationship for like two years but it came together by pure chance and I don't know how much longer it will last. Trying to get prepared in case we break up.
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>>6709764
Fap somewhere else.
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>>6709774
Don't be a bitch and post your boy boobs, bro
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>>6709769
Post pics.
Not for any perverted reason but I'm curious how this "girlboy thing" looks like.
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>>6709777
I have posted them plenty of times, you all love them but people here will recognize me and considering the nature of the discussion I must remain anonymous.
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>>6709728
I am not sure what sort of advice you expect to hear? Date just like everyone else
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>>6709764
The only pics we need are of cute japanese cartoon girls doing cute things like this

>>6709769
What advice exactly are you looking for? How to know people or how to maintain a relationship?
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>>6709791
How to find someone into people like me. I have lots of relationship experience but never had to go out and find someone new in my current very gender bent physical state.
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>>6709798
That's a hard question. I'm probably the same thing as you except my boobies are not too noticeable. I know a lot of cute guys because of my hobbies, I'm a tourneyfag and I go to TCG and videogames tournaments. And being a regular in the communities I usually get attention and people flirting with me.

I don't think this is helpful at all for you but that's all I got so hey
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>>6709798
that wildly depends on where you're from and what you identify as. I'll assume a boy so a gay club or simply online dating. I am not sure there;s a specific place for femboys to look for love
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>>6709798
>I have lots of relationship experience but never had to go out and find someone
Well you've got more experience than me
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>>6709814
So it'd be a good idea to just go about life and let relationships fall into my lap through natural means e.g. picking up on flirting and things like that?
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>>6709834
That's exactly what I do yes. I don't go to those places to know people, I just get to know people because of my hobbies.

In my experience that's the most healthy thing, I'd only resort to dating sites and the likes if you are EXTREMELY desperate.
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>>6709823
I'm in a somewhat remote area but inside a town of 300k people, largest city for a very far distance. Has a nice gay bar, but online dating tends to be kinda shit around here.

With the gay bar or gay scene things how much should I worry about their opinion on my boobs? Is it safe to assume they're into boobs and the feminine if they are flirting? I'm pretty feminine in appearance. Should I just not worry about it if guys are hitting on me?
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>>6709783
girlboy thing = man's body, boobs visible through the shirt
tbqh
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>>6709887
Nope. Think more like could pass as a girl and far too often fails boy mode but uses voice clothes and behaviors to try to force boymode.
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>>6709897
that sounds stupid
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>>6709904
You sound stupid :^}
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>>6709769
Tranny femboy is an oxymoron
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>>6709916
Bitch at the guy who said it first then retard, I was responding to his self-made categories.
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>>6709922
Don't reply to bait
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>>6709929
It's not bait. It's truth. Everybody ITT wants to look like the OP image and hormones and surgery will never get them there. They're chasing this stupid dream because they want to look like us and it's ruining the only space we have on this board. We've had to remake femgen and move threads twice this year because of stupid fucking masc guys/"girls" wishing they were small.
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>>6709946
OP image is literally just a generic guy, what are you even talking about
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>>6709952
That is very clearly underage, anon
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>>6709956
What the fuck? No. That is not clearly underage at all. What kind of world are you from?
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>>6709956
Seems pretty generic to me, I didn't even think about the age of the guy

also I doubt everyone here want to look like that, considering most people are on hormones here they obviously want to become traps
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>>6709946
Says the hairy chubster. Stay bitter, old man.
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>>6709946
>they want to look like us
>stupid fucking masc guys/"girls" wishing they were small

Fuck you anon I'm tall, tall =/= tranny.

Post pics of yourself, faggot
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>>6709962
That ribcage would fit a child's medium. That's definitely at least 3 standard deviations below the average for someone 18
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>>6709946
Post yourself or you're not a femboy sorry anon
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>>6709946
>they want to look like us
"They" who and "us" who? Who the fuck are you m8
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>>6709908
y-you too ::^^)
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>>6709985
>>>/mtfg/
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>>6709985
back to mtfgen/hongen faggot
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>>6709971
>>6709973
>>6709990
Please leave femgen.
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>>6709946
We, we did?
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>>6709992
Confirmed for manliest poster on lgbt
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>>6709998
Very good reply, anon
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>>6709994
>>6709997
But he's right
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>>6710008
>he
you mean you?
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>>6710008
>>6710004
>>6710003
>>6710002
>>6709998
>>6709997
>>6709994
>>6709992
>>6709991
>>6709990
etc
etc
etc

finally some action
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>thread becomes popular
>suddenly it's okay to be tall
>thread devolves into hormone discussion
>longtime users complain
>thread is derailed
lol its no wonder they stopped posting group join links itt
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>>6706759
>tfw in town today
>look at reflection in shop window
>tiddies
>look down
>boiboobs are doing the thing where they're big enough to push out the part of my tank-top inbetween the boobs too
>can see them down my top and the small space inbetween them
>get turned on by how qt and fem I am
noice
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>>6710025
>this shit becomes normalized
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>>6710023
Hey anon are you >>6709946
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>>6710023
Tall is good, fuck manlets
Hormones are optional but beneficial
SERM is experimental but potentially da best
Painted nails are stupid
Earrings are THE CUTEST THING EVER

fight my opinions i dare you
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>>6709962
It's a slp model
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>>6710025
post pic i love boiboobs
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>>6710034
Tall is masc
Hormones make you trans
Serms are ok
Painted nails are ok
Earrings are ok but you're a flamer if you have these or painted nails
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>>6710040
Why
There's nothing breaking the rules here you fucking newfag
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>>6710039
Who is it lol
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>come to femgen
>its aight
>shitposting starts
>leave for another 2 weeks

this gen is too slow and too easy of a target.
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i invented the boiboobs meem ama
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>>6710027
>implying I'd be doing this with my father in my life
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>>6710023
>>6710051
>Post once
>Not enough (you)s
>Post again
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>>6710051
It doesn't help that lgbt is like 2/3 hons lol
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>>6710051
No, pls stick around we'll be better next thread
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what does spamming the thread accomplish desu
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>>6710061
Anon there are a lot of people disappointed with femgen
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>>6710042
>Tall is masc
Depends. I consider 6 to be the maximum allowed. Tall is cool but more than 6 is definitely masc
>Hormones make you trans
Hormones make you cute and age super good
>Serms are ok
Literally the same as hormones except for the titties
>you're a flamer if you have these
Literally how

>>6710067
They are twinks scared of hormones and they are jealous of the cute guys here actually taking them
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>>6709998
>>6709946
No lets b honest, you never would've been counted as a twink, ditto for most of the old guard. Seriously, facial hair guys and all.

So really, it's funny hearing try and act elitist against people who are proactive about keeping their neoteny and boyishness. Go to gaygen if you can't handle people judging your neckbeard.
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>>6710070
C H A R G E Y O U R P H O N E
H
A
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G
E

Y
O
U
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P
H
O
N
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>>6710067
Gaygen trips are mad we don't idolize them anymore.
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>>6710080
>Go to gaygen if you can't handle people judging your neckbeard.
The funny thing is that we wouldn't even judge neckbeards here if they didn't judge us because of some pills
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>All of these people bashing on hormones and people using them acting like they're ruining the general like this is a sudden thing and the general used to be great or something
I'm confused.
I was browsing this general for the past few weeksish now and HRT has been a consistently approved of thing in these threads so long as you didn't go full tranny xir mode.

What's going on?
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>>6710080
So because I don't approve of femgen being a gateway to transition I'm a neckbeard

Fucking trannies lmao
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>>6710096
>What's going on?
Shitposting, some autist letting /r9k/ know about us and mods doing nothing
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>>6710096
Literally just a bored retard shitting up the thread
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>>6710023
Hitler's group was the only real group!
Who actually running the new one?
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>>6710003
Confirmed for the biggest retard on the planet
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>>6710112
Ethan
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>>6710052
im a girl btw
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>>6710102
Not a fucking tranny. It's only hairy dried up trips in gaygen who're insecure enough to call anyone who's even a little bit protective of their andro looks a tranny.
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>>6710052
nice but who invented boibewbs
i like that meme better
>>
Official Height Guide

Femboy range: < 5'5
Andro range: 5'6-5'8
Man range: 5'9-5'11
Masculine man: >6'

Anyone above the andro range should leave /femgen/ tbqh
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>>6710126
So it's you who tricked us into getting addicted to moans? Why?
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>>6710134
>tfw 5'9
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>>6710134
Here, lemme correct that: height guide for tiny americans
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>>6710134
Legit
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>>6710138
feminine people are qt
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>>6710112
>Gobbels
>run a legitimate anything
Good one. He and the other trip using gaygen cancer can piss off.
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>>6710145
Sorry but no one above 5'7 is ever seen as cute or fem anywhere in the world you ugly Nordic lanklet
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So were hormones a meme all along?
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>>6710153
You should've let us know serms were an option, don't like having them tbqh
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>>6710167
yes
hormones literally do nothing tbqh

you'd be better off taking sugar pills because the effect's the same
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>>6710175
you figured out hormones on your own i just encouraged it
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>>6710158
>>6710118
who?
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>>6710162
>Anon will never be topped by a qt tall femboy dom
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>>6710183
>tall
>qt
does not compute my man
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>mfw a 5'11 "femboy" is being an uggo masculine man near me
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>>6710181
Did I mention they seriously make me unhappy. You should've let us know we had a third option.
Wth would a girl like boy tits anyway?
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>>6708860
Dude, there are so many bi chicks that'd be into you, have faith, someone will love you, boibewbs and all anon
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>>6710194
I'm 5'3 anon, stop trying to rationalize missing out on something great as something being bad

>Tfw I'm still the tallest out of all my friends
I grew up thinking I was tall until I actually got the tape measure
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>>6710213
>5'3
>tallest out of all my friends
lol are you from cambodia or something? what the fuck my man
there is no way you are white either
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>>6710182
What's up
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>>6710217
This. Anyone above a certain height should be force-fed testosterone and off to gym they go until they become swole ottermode twunks their genes always meant them to become.

I will not tolerate 5'11 "femboys" in my femboi nation!
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>>6710226
I'm an ausfag

Why are all my friends midgets anon I don't understand

Then again I've not seen the fucks in atleast two years because I'm an antisocial shutin so maybe they were autistically late on the growth-spurt-train. R-right?
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>>6710034
Tall is always good. Men, women, everything in between
Hormones good
Serm fine
Painted nails maybe
Earrings never never never
>>
Good job you fucking shitposter
>>
reminder
Stage 1: Femgoy - femboy just realizing his newfound powers
Stage 2: Femboy - femboy starts taking SERMs for his Peter Pan syndrome
Stage 3: Femtranny - oops, our femboy has taken it too far
Stage 4: Tranny - point of no return
Stage 5: "Woman" - oh shit nigga you just had SRS and you still call yourself a femboy? what r u doin
Stage 6: Eldritch Abomination mode activated

tbqh
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>the guy against boy boobs, the manlet against tall people, and the newfag against anime was LITERALLY JUST THE SAME SHITPOSTER

I'm fucking dying, how can you have so many mental problems m8
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>>6710367
*Ron Perlman's voice*
manlets
manlets'll never learn
>>
All this height shit and the hormones are seriously making me cry. Wtf I'd in the drug holy shit

>Tfw 6' and hit growth Spurt at 16 so still growing
Hopefully titty pills slow down this death train
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>>6710367
Clearly all different people you dumb fuck. And anime is tranny tier. Go home, redditor.
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>>6710379
>>6710376
Fucking lol here he goes again
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN GODDAMN
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>tfw 5'9" 21 years old and already started HRT for about a month now
>but now it's been revealed that my life's decision has all along just been a ruse
>all I wanted to be was just a cuter version of myself
>but now my life has become a meme
somebody quick kill me
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>>6710384
I'm 5'11, not on hormones, and I pass with boy clothes just because of my hairstyle.

Height is literally a meme
>>
>shorter than 5'10
>"""femboy"""
haha
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>>6710389
I pick both, manlet
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>>6710384
Why not do what you need to to become a cuter version of yourself then? Whether that involves hormones or not, that's up to you, but there's no reason to give up on what you wanted.
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>>6710041
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>>6710438
Not anon who asked but you look pretty good. Bad angle for tru judging tho
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>>6710438
Those are some ugly as fuck clothes man
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>>6710438
good boy
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>>6710438
You're probably a qt but please don't paint your nails unless you're a tranny, anon
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>>6710489
don't listen to him

do whatever you want bby
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>>6708771
But where does one go to find pictures of cute femboys?
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>>6710360
Praise Slaanesh!
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What kind of femboy are you?

Type 1: "Twink" - Hair no longer than shoulder level, clean shaven, young looking face
Type 2: "Scene fag" - usually covered in piercings and he's unlikeable
Type 3: "Androgynous" - Pretty fem face, girly hairstyle, sometimes you can think they are girls but on close inspection they are clearly guys, most likely on AA/SERMs
Type 4: "Trap" - Look like girls, they may also crossdress, they know about make up, most likely on estrogen and/or SERM and if they have boiboobs they are modest about them or hide them
Type 5: "What are you doing man please stop" - estrogen, they show their tits in their ugly tank tops, they paint their nails, use stripped rainbow socks
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>tfw that butthurt masc faggot got banned for spamming this thread
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>>6710640
1? Idk, like short hair & boy clothes
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>>6710640
>Tfw twink aspiring to scene fag but will likely evolve into andro
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>>6710640
Currently Type 3, I want to become a Type 4.
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>>6710647
>implying i didn't just move the thread away from shitty tranny discussion to now distinguishing between different types of femboy to create even more of a divide
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>>6710711
No, that was me and since I called everyone a femboy there's no reason to cry about "b-but you are no TRUfemboi..."
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>>6710743
You're okay
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>>6710640
Type 4 here.
Boibewbs are just beginning to grow send hlep how do you hide these
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>>6710640
Disregard this ugly tranny with shit genes that thinks everyone needs drugs.
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>>6710134
This is retarded and made by trannies.
<5'8" is femboy range
5'8"-5'10" is andro
>5'10 is masc

>>6710162
Below 5'5" is just weird and girl-tier, or for people with shit genes and nutritional deficits.
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>>6710808
let me kiss them
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>>6710384
You must tell your story, anon
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>>6710808
>type 4
you mean stage IV
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>>6711046
>it's terminal, doc
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>>6706261
>You DON'T take hormones and SERM at the same time
Fuck me, I was actually thinking about getting serm's. Do I have any options if I just want to get a little femme

>tfw I probably put this of too long to ever have a decent chance of passing again
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>>6711081
You can cycle them with estrogen, nobody knows what will happen though lol
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>>6711001
>>6710134
relevant for males and females
poor nutrition and 3rd world nigger range: <6'
glorious Aryan and healthy range: >6'
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>>6711084
No one has provided evidence for why they can't be stacked, yet
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>>6711269
You don't really need -evidence-, it's just that your live will just go "yeah no fuck you im out" and you are also out
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>>6711285
>live
I mean liver, fuck
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>>6711285
Why the fuck is it always the liver anyway

Why can't it be the spleen my liver needs a break
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>>6711269
you CAN take a SERM with an estrogen we just haven't done it yet. apparently there's nothing to suggest you wouldn't just have more potent feminization than a regular SERM (without the tits still), but who knows what would happen.
>>
>>6711285
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11896754
This seems to indicate that raloxifene is not toxic to the liver compared tamoxifen
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>>6711335
I don't think the problem is poisoning, more like the liver has to put up with a lot of work at the same time and dies
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>>6711335
raloxifene has always been a better SERM than tamoxifen; tamoixfen just has more research behind it because it was used for a longer period of time.
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>>6707033
Is he a femboy too?
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>>6711342
I'm pretty sure those are the same thing. I'm not hard on my liver otherwise. In any case, at low doses, bicalutamide, raloxifene and an estrogen simultaneously isn't much crazier than some other things real trannies are running so I'll try it out and if I don't die of liver failure or a blood clot I'll come here to gloat.
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>>6711368
And by gloat I mean share as much information as I can about how it went down
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>>6711368
Since we are talking about bicalutamide and liver failure I might as well ask in this thread too. Is bica also hard on the liver like other AAs? Since the other AAs are only supposed to be taken for some years and then you either get an orchi or you stop HRT. But I never find anything about bica in this case
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>>6711395
https://livertox.nlm.nih.gov/Bicalutamide.htm
>Who knows
is what I get from this
>>
I'm about to serm cycle for you Bois. Is spiro or Cypro better? I don't care about fertility, if anything I'll save my future self from dirty babies
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>>6711422
Bica > spiro = cypro
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hey femgen. you boys ready for your estrogen injection?
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>>6711427
I know, bica is expensive tho and what other benefits does it have other than no infirtility
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>>6711480
>tank top
>>>/mtfg/
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>>6711482
It's definitely the safest one and it doesn't mess with your cute erections and libido.

I have no idea why it isn't the default one. I guess it will be in the future.
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>>6711490
Lol, do spiro and cypro just make your dick fall off and kill you. Is there a difference between the two, because I don't feel like spending 50 a month
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>>6711506
And the benefits don't seem all that great to me
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>>6711506
Your testicles shrink, your penis shrinks, spontaneous erections disappear and erections are softer and shorter, also libido is greatly reduced.
If you can deal with that then go for it my man.
>>
>tranny tits
>limp dick
>cancer, heart disease
no way faggot

>>6711483
tanks are cool
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>>6711513
I can deal, but spiro or cypro
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>>6711524
Cypro. To quote someone else,
>Long half-life
>Few annoying side effects
>Blocks receptors & halts production
>Is made to specifically block androgen

Negative aspects would be the possible depression arising (should be resolvable by supplying vitamin B12), and that it's harder on the liver (which can be take care of by ramping dose down over time as your testicles get less effective).

Spiro is safer in comparison, but requires much larger doses and have a shit ton of (nonfatal) side effects.
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>>6711520
>tanks are cool
thanks anon. I dont think im a girl.
>>6711513
>>6711524
dont forget the boobs. they are kinda a pain to hide. sports bras help, but will show through thin t shirts. P much if its not dark or thick fabric throw it away when starting hormones.
>>6711506
cypro goes to work right away but will fuck your liver. sprio takes time to kill your testicles, but works for most people.
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>>6711547
>Spiro is safer in comparison, but requires much larger doses and have a shit ton of (nonfatal) side effects
Care to elaborate on those side effects
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>>6711549
good boiboob
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>>6711564
kill yourself
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>>6711524
Cute boob by the way, you didn't get the dreaded conetits, so sort of congratulations

>>6711547
>which can be take care of by ramping dose down over time as your testicles get less effective
How much time can one get away doing this? Can I do it on spiro too? I really just want to avoid getting an orchi
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>>6711554
>Its a diuretic, expect to be using the bathroom alot more
>Can give you what many call a "brain fog", focus is harder
>Lowers blood pressure and causes dizzyness
>Increases potassium and if you eat heavy potassium foods can cause trouble as levels get very high
>>6711575
Usually a year or so I hear and you can reduce from 50mg to 25 on cypro, but this may vary and you'll want to get your T levels checked if you do.
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>>6711549
That seems like a bitch to hide.
How do you fucks go to a pool?
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>>6711571
why
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>>6711592
>a year
I was talking about like a "until I die" thing
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>>6711593
>How do you fucks go to a pool?
>Swimming
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>>6711554
Sprio requires more mg. usually abotu 150mg but anywhere from 100-300mg to get your T down. "higher doses" is really a meme cause you its pointless to compare two totally different drugs mg to mg.

Spironolactone is a potassium sparing diuretic. This means that it will make your kidneys work more, but will spare potassium from this. You need to check potassium levels. This shift in salt content of blood lowers blood pressure. If potassium levels are too high you get like irregular heart beats and stuff. Occasionally spiro gives some people a rash, Im not sure how that works. It puts your kidneys to work so there is bloodwork to monitor that too.

After a month You will want blood work for electrolytes if on spiro, liver enzymes if on E, and of course your hormone levels. wait a few months and check those again along with lipids and prolactin levels.
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>>6711606
Do you not care about your obvious tits when you take your shirt off?
>>
Anyone have experience with purchase on the dark web.
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>>6711618
>Taking your shirt off
Rash guard, if anyone asks say you get sunburn too easily
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>>6711593
I don't go to public pools. Rented boats with some people and was shirtless for swimming. Mostly queer people, but one cis girl looked puzzled. there were girls there with theirs out too so its like whatever.

>>6711564
thank you. I try to keep them cute.

>>6711575
if I miss my shot they look like conetits kinda, but yeah I got lucky and started at 25.
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>>6709728
>>6709777
>>6709783
>>6709784
>>6709970
>>6710025
>>6710041
>>6710052
>>6710175 (stop posting this fugging image every single thread)
>>6710209
>>6710367
>>6710438
>>6710478
>>6711020
>>6711549
>>6711564

can we stop encouraging the fucking boy tits please, they are tranny tier and should not be something you want to have

>>>/mtf/
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>>6711632
they would be obvious, but probably pretty cute in a rash guard.
>>6711618
I just dont take my shirt off with people who would judge or in public. Its just boobs no one cares
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>>6711618
Unless you've got friends who're avid bodybuilders or work in the medical field, nothing's to stop you coming up with some bullshit about it being gyno

>>6711640
>Anon doesn't worship Slaanesh
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>>6711640
Balding fat bear detected
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>>6710134
i am 6'1
what can i do to compensate
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>>6710438
hey you got them too. sorry your story is really agp tho.
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>>6711659
1. Find qt femdom animu
2. Replace the face with a boy
3. Work towards becoming a real life version of that animu

It's not too hard to work with being a giant
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>>6711668
i thought i was a sub for so long but i tried domming and i felt so alive doing it
am i born to make men submit?
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>>6711686
Your shitpost got deleted no need to bring it back with the same image
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>>6711593
I'm fit like a swimmer w mild pecs and they show in tanks, fitted shirts
can't imagine amount of crap hrt tit fags have to do to hide em.
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>>6711686
>Literally looks like a boy with tits. Any straight man can tell your skin is not feminine. Disgusting.
troll harder pls. skin looking softer takes some time and Im seeing skin get more fem with each month that passes. lets see you
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>>6711728
>can't imagine amount of crap hrt tit fags have to do to hide em.
Sports bra and very specific clothing choices. Im surpised >>6710438 wears a tank top out and expects them not to show.
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Who
>wishing they had fem friends to give clothing/hair/skincare tips but all your friends are normal nerdy dudes
here?
>>
>>6711801
Me
Oh god me
save me
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>>6711801
>Describing my life so easily
Fuck you anon.

Worst part is when I came out I constantly had tumblr girls trying to drag me off which only got worse when word got out I'm a complete fudanshi, but how the fuck are you even meant to join in with the bullshit conversations they have about their shitty 3 second .gifs
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>>6711686
I bet you have chest hair
>>
>>6711815
>>6711811
rip us
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>>6711621
bump.
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>>6711987
say something next time. how are you or what you did with your day idk.
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>>6711815
Hato pls
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>>6711815
Fudanshi bros unite
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anybody try the not talked about AAs on this page. https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/c-88-transgender.aspx
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>>6712000
thankyou.
now i am armed with the knowledge i need to traverse the dark web and buy semi-illegal hormone products.
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>>6712067
>>6689218
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>>6711554
>>6711592
don't forget the decrease of mathematical ability kek
i don't have the study link but someone posted it before
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>>6712082
cypro it is. calude is almost as much so i might do that. Thanks anyway to those involved
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>>6712123
Good luck anon, and stay safe
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>>6711743
that's b/c it's a tranny

daily reminder that hrt tits will cost you $thousands$ to remove
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>>6711660
go away mika nobody likes you kys tranny scum
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>>6712381
who is mika?

>>6712299
youd have to pay me thousands to remove them.
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>>6712299
or like $200 with serms
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>>6712643
>>6712643
>>6712643
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so does bicalutamide or taxowhatever make you grow boyboobs or what
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