/LesGen/ - Historical Waifus addition

>>5911834
>>5911840
We were seventeen. She told me she loved me. I ran. The feelings never went away.

>>5911877
>tfw no greek waifu

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>>5911884
That's really sad. I wish i could be with so many of my exs.

>>5911877
Sappho was bi

also the word "lesbian" as a term for homosexual women doesn't make any sense considering it's roots.

>>5911893
Sappho was gay as fuck, what are you talking about? A person doesn't write years of dedicated homolust poetry when they're bi.

>>5911893
People weren't bi or gay until recently. In those times having sex was nearly a transaction not about who you're into.

>>5911912
you should look at her history m8, kek.

It's only through constant memes, that sappho became a lesbian figure since she was the first girl to write dyke poems.

>>5911912
sappho wrote sexual poems towards both sexes.

It's more accurate to say that sappho is the first documented bi poet.

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>>5911884
Well, good luck anon! I hope it works out.

>>5911699
But what's your FC, anon?

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No other lesbian at my school. I'm looking forward to getting a gf when I go to college next year. My biggest worry is how I'll get along with my roommate. What if she's homophobic? What if I fall in love with her? What if she's constantly bringing home creepy dudes? What if she's straight but "wants to experiment"? Wouldn't that be a terrible idea?

>>5912121
>be young high school me
>c-college is a fresh start, right?
>befriend roommate and girl across the hall
>size them up as potential lovers
>not possible, roommate is unattractive and straight
>girl across the hall is homophobic christian who doesn't even attend church or read the bible
>still be friends with them anyways
>go to LGBT club for potential gf
>blah blah blah activism blah blah blah
>LGBT club is a miss, total activism boring shit, I just wanna fuck
> spend next three years miserable with roommate and girl across the hall
> ditch their asses for new friends
> get embarrassing crush on the straight girl there
> fail miserably with her and I hide away for the next couple of years

Here's some tips, don't feel obligated to hang out with shitty people just because you're desperate for friends. Try to make different friends who are chill with you and whom you can trust. Never ever fall for straight girls, be extremely careful with bi girls, and generally look out for red flags when with gay girls. LGBT clubs are usually all about activism and advocacy so if you wanna do that, ehhhhh... you're better off trying to make gay friends somewhere else in my opinion.

Your top priority in college is to get in a good major that can secure you a good job. When you do this, you'll be in a really good position in life that puts you ahead and makes you an attractive potential partner.

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>>5912070
Thanks, anon. I'm really excited, but really nervous.

>>5912173
Says you. I can't control myself around artists and musicians.

My brother is in the military and in an sorta actively dangerous place.

I had a dream he was killed a couple nights ago and it really bothered me.

If I commit suicide will they let him come home to stay?

>>5912209
NOPE.

>>5912209
More like he has to be the one that acts suicidal and shows that he's a danger to his team mates. Then they'll send him home.

>>5912173
there is a gay bar (coed) in the college town im going too. Maybe i should avoid lgbt club and go there instead. I don't really want to go alone though. If I do make friends, just statistically speaking, they'll probably be straight. I doubt they'll want to go with me.

>>5912343
Straight girls love gay bars. Are you fucking shitting me?

>>5911877
>addition

>>5912348
unless they're christian.

>>5912343
make friends in different groups. Pick one or two clubs and make friends there. Make friends in your immediate area in the dorms. That way you have three groups of pals you can ask if they wanna go with you to the gay club.

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>>5912209
no. they won't let him come home. if you want to help him out, make sure he gets proper support when he's done serving. Suicide and mental issues among vets is high. There are services that offer free anonymous mental health stuff to vets and troops (some don't want a psychiatrist visit on their military record for career reasons). Also, make sure his SO isn't cheating (which happens a lot to troops).

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>mfw I just moved and went from <1 mbps down to 75 mpbs down

I burned my tongue with coffee and still I have the habit of biting my lips and the cheek mucous till hurt, now my mouth is very wounded and it is shit to chew
anyone else?

>tfw never even kissed before
How do I even do it? I'll screw up I know I will.

>>5912465
>1mbps
Not even 20 years ago, how.

>>5912529
I don't know, but my yuri porn tells me I'm gonna follow my instincts and be a really good kisser when the time comes to kiss another qt girl.

>>5912529
I feel you anon
I will die a kissless virgin, why am i so insecure

>>5912529
I will kiss you even if you're ugly just so you don't feel like this. It's just tragic.

>>5912465
I feel you, that's awesome. We're about to get 50 down at the end of the month. I can't wait.

>>5912530
I live in Australia and get some of the worst speeds in the country on top of that. My base speed is between 150-250kbps. Not everyone lives in areas with good internet.

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>>5912529
It's really not very hard and you'll get the hang of it after a few sessions. You just have to remember its not about what looks good, it's about what feels good. If your partner is any good you can let them take the lead.

Seriously, it;s just lip mashing. Pic related.

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>>5912529
http://www.wikihow.com/Kiss

>>5912121
>April & May
Hey I liked that comic when I was your age. Good memories.

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>>5912719

>It's just like one of my Japanese [yuri] animes

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Lesbian-Girlfriend

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Girl-to-Kiss-You-if-You-Are-a-Girl

http://www.wikihow.com/Ask-a-Girl-out-if-You-Are-a-Girl

http://www.wikihow.com/Flirt-Girl-to-Girl

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Girl's-Attention-if-You-Are-a-Girl

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Girl-to-Like-You-%28LGBT%29

>oh shiiiiii

http://www.wikihow.com/Tell-Your-Girlfriend-You-Are-Not-a-Lesbian

how do i get a lesbian to be my friend

i am a fat gay

>>5912719
>>5912779
these are full of good advice that should be common sense to everyone but the most severe autist, and awful advice that seems more like a practical joke on the readers who try it.

>>5912783
why do you want a lesbian? you'd have an easier time of it getting a straight female friend. It seems like gay male friends are an in-demand fashionable accessory for straight women these days.

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Gay-Male-Friend-%28for-Girls%29
http://www.wikihow.com/Find-Your-Gay-Best-Friend

sry. I'm just on a wikihow kick at the moment.

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>>5912779
>Smile a lot! Give a gay girl a "Hello, I am a lesbian too!" smile.
I really need examples of what a lesbian smile is. I'm totally oblivious

Do you consider "butch" and "femme" to be primarily a lifestyle, subculture, or just descriptions?

Arguing with a straight guy who claims that gay people don't call themselves bears/otters/butch/femme/etc just because it's slang for how they look. This seems like bullshit to me. Personally, I identify as femme because it objectively describes me, not because I feel a kinship to some greater lesbian squad.

>>5912860
Try to imagine that she has a deadly secret, and that you know that secret, and that it is also a secret that applies to you. And then smile, like a spy that's one up on another spy.

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>>5912865

http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Butch-Lesbian

http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Lipstick-Lesbian

...sorry. I know that should really stop, but this is my life now.

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>>5912860

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Thinking back to when you thought you were straight, did you flirt with guys the same way you flirt with girls now?

>>5912865
It's just a look. But it depends how serious people wanna get about it.

Think of it like "goth". There's a goth style. You could be a little goth just cause you wear black and like piercings. Or you can see it as a personal identity. Or there's a subculture to it.

I feel like the micro labels of it all are only used as much when you're new to being gay or young in general. Because you're trying to understand your own homosexuality and how it your overall self fit together it helps to find a label/group to belong. But as you get more comfortable with it all you don't need/use labels like femme/butch/twink/bear/stud/etc.

It's kind of like how in high school people cling to labels like goth/emo/jock/gangster/etc cause they're teens trying to understand themselves and their relation into social circles and society. But after the teens when they're more comfortable they drop the strict labels. Still someone that was a jock in high school will more likely stay kinda athletic into college and life but it won't be as much of an identity to them. Or a emo high schooler might still favor dark clothes/music but drop the emo identity. Similarly in the beginning of realizing I was gay I was very strict on my femme label but as I got more comfy it's not an important identity to me.

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>>5912860

>>5912887
Thank you, I think this really hits the nail on the head. I used your example of "goth" and it finally got through to him that these words don't need to have a deep meaning. I appreciate the thoughtful response.

Do you feel like strongly identifying as femme after you came out was in part defense mechanism, like "I'm gay BUT guys find me hot/I'm socially acceptable/etc"?

>>5912885
I'm way better at flirting with dudes than girls. Not even bi. I just used to treat guys like a means to an end so flirting was this almost sociopathic tool for me to just get what I want. It all went very mechanical in my head like
>stick out tits
>flip hair
>laugh now, smile here
>touch his hair
>ok good enough interactions
>ask for what you want
>cool you got it move on

Dudes are pretty basic. They just wanna fuck or at least the illusion of possible fucking in the future. The only trick to dudes is they don't want it too easy. So you basically trick them into thinking they tricked you and they'll give you what you want.


Flirting with girls I basically just play gay chicken until I win. It just sucks more cause I got feelings and shit and get hurt more. This constant screaming in my head of "oh god am I too subtle? too forward? is she even gay? can she tell I'm gay? she seems gay but what if she thinks I'm straight and just teasing her so she gets pissed at me and leaves oh god do I just scream I'M GAY"

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>>5912529
Don't worry, anon. I'm a 24 year old kissless virgin.
You are not alone in the kissless battle.

>>5912937
I feel this. Flirting with dudes is easier because not only is there a script for it but I also deeply don't give a fuck. Guys get the wrong idea 99% of the time anyway so even when I'm not flirting it's the same game.

Outside of LGBT spaces, girls interpret your flirting to be ~girls empowering each other~ stuff, like there's some implied "yasss girl slay" in your words. So then you have to show that no, this is not #WomanCrushWednesday, this is 24/7 lesbianism. But then you come on too strong and argggg.

>>5912921
Yeah another point to make would be it's even less of a potential subculture than goth. Cause at least there's goth raves or goth parties where you only see goth people doing goth shit. There's no femme clubs or butch hang out only places. It's too niche and even if it were possible it wouldn't catch on enough cause even though there's fem4fem it's not so much that a femme is never gonna wanna hang with butches or twinks or bears or whatever. Cause it's not that much of a difference or cultural identity, it's just a style preference.

>Do you feel like strongly identifying as femme after you came out was in part defense mechanism, like "I'm gay BUT guys find me hot/I'm socially acceptable/etc"?

Kinda that cause I did have friends that were all "at least you're not like THOSE OTHER LESBIANS" but really before coming out or realizing I was gay I was pretty tomboy, at least compared to my straight girl friends I was the tomboy of the group. I'd just been growing my hair long at the time and my first girlfriend got me into skincare and some make up and I just started paying more mind to fashion and heels and my hair style. She'd call me soft femme to her hard femme and I liked it. Certainly didn't fit butch, chapstick felt too ellen degeneres and besides I was wearing some lipgloss.

It used to bug me a lot that if I was hanging around all lesbians I'd be seen as the more feminine one but if I was hanging around straight girls I was the most butch/guy one. If I had a different opinion than other lesbians it didn't count cause I was too femme and not gay enough, if I had a different opinion than straight girls it didn't count cause I was too gay and not girly enough.

>>5912719
Why is Youmu getting her ear raped by an anteater?

Also the people in that WikiHow article are too white, needs more diversity and less heteronormativity.

>>5913000
>There's no femme clubs or butch hang out only places.
There is that kind of thing for bears though. Only mentioning it since the original anon did.

>>5913000
I'm glad to this. I was beginning to think this straight dude knew something that I didn't, seeing how insistent he was. I totally agree with you and that's another good point re the goth label.

That sounds really annoying and dismissive!
>used to bug me a lot
Did you get used to it and stop caring or did those social circles start taking you more seriously?

>>5910895
what in the actual fuck? her name was NEVER butterfly, that's just what we called her to identify her tag. and even then the name was not made popular until someone got tired of trying to make it and just started calling her butterfly.

>>5912343
>>5912173
>>5912121
You can use the LGBT clubs to find out where the queer hangouts are.

>>5912348
They like them because they can go and dance the night away, and not be hassled by straight guys.

>>5913020
I thought bear only clubs were an old 70s or 80s fad. Didn't think they still existed.

>>5913047
It happens. Some dudes get pretty stubborn on a supposed "fact" in their minds.

>Did you get used to it and stop caring or did those social circles start taking you more seriously?
For a while I just thought they were right. Like maybe I really was missing some key element of straight girls and other lesbians that had me at odds. But then ya know ya get older, meet a wider variety of people. These people of different sex and orientations and such bullshit made me see people are gonna have an equal variety of opinions on shit not based on their sex/orientation/styles and that my friends were just writing me off cause that was easier than arguing.

So now it's either roll my eyes if the argument isn't worth it or just kinda restate my opinion and further argument like

>me: that dude is a piece of shit
>straight girl: you're just saying that cause you're gay
>me: or maybe that dude is a piece of shit cause he does all that piece of shit stuff and is in fact a literal little cut off chunk of some feces

>>5913131
>I thought bear only clubs were an old 70s or 80s fad. Didn't think they still existed.
Nah they still exist in some places, though I think the one in my city doubles as the leather bar (lots of crossover there anyway). Either way the bear thing is definitely more of a subculture than just a look.

>>5913131
lel!
new personal favorite!
>"or maybe that dude is a piece of shit cause he does all that piece of shit stuff and is in fact a literal little cut off chunk of some feces"

>>5913014
way to ignore the disabled you fucking bigot.

>>5913129
>They like them because they can go and dance the night away, and not be hassled by straight guys.
this is a gay&lesbian club though, so they will be hassled by horny lesbians.

>>5913228
>so they will be hassled by horny lesbians.
I can think of worse fates

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I hope to see you all tomorrow friends!

>>5913245
I'm all for having an entire island for us lesbians but no work would ever get done because having access to that much v will turn you all into sluts.

>>5913228
A horny lesbian is a hell of a lot nicer and considerate about her advances than a horny guy.

>>5913378
Having been in a female only swingers club, plenty of work would get done.

>>5913399
>female only swingers club
How many blood sacrifices to get in?

>>5912937
>>5912963

Guys ive known have literally taken 'talking to them and being interested in the same stuff as them' to be flirting.
It really isnt hard to flirt with guys.

>>5913498
that's because they wouldn't go out of their way to talk to a random woman or pretend to be interested in her likes, unless they wanted to sleep with her.

they're being empathetic, and putting themselves in your shoes to try to discern your thoughts, feelings, and motivation. commendable really.

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>tfw trying to make the conversion from mousy long-haired lesbian apathetic about her appearance to qt

...how do you know what kind of haircut would look good on you? I haven't gotten many as an adult because I'm irrationally afraid of them.

>>5913554
Go bald.

>>5913554

Expensive salon, and talk to one of the stylists.
That's the easiest way.

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>>5913526
>commendable
Disgusting male not welcome.

>>5913568
I was afraid of that.

Thanks.

>>5913554
Usually experimenting is best, but barring that look at your features. Face shape - if you have a long face shape make sure to have a style that doesn't elongate your face. Large forehead, get bangs.

I found the hairstyles that look best on me by searching for celebrities with similar features to me. They can afford stylists capable of finding a style that showcases their features.

>>5913403
Few virgins and a goat. Then you must worship our dark goddess for the rest of your life.
>tfw no gf to do lesbian rituals with

>>5913579

It's not that bad!
I used to have a weird fear of it (I think because I cut myself badly with scissors once when I was a kid, thus scissors near my face noped me out for a long time), but it's not so bad!

Get a good stylist, and its 100% worth the cost. I mean hell if nothing else, you'll probably end up with a qt playing with your hair for ages, and then you'll come out looking like sex.

>>5912113

0748-3485-6435

Adding >>5911929 and anyone else who wants to.

>>5913715
>tfw getting a haircut makes me feel awkward because there's always boobs in my face

>>5912029
Fun fact:

One of the pieces of evidence they use to say that is that Sappho had a daughter named Cleis, however in ancient Greece, the word she used to describe Cleis could also be used to describe a slave/servant girl.

>>5913958
That's my favourite part. I've had the same hairdresser for four years just because I like the way she does that.

Am I a creep?

>>5914040
Just a little bit.

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>>5913579
After you get this expensive cool haircut, take a lot of pictures too. That way you can use actual pictures of you as a reference for next time.

Even if you have no clue what to get, thinking about practical requirements in beforehand is good. For instance, I work in health care so I don't want too long hair, and sidebangs need to be long enough to pull them back with pins without looking fugly. Also I assume that you want to start with something low-maintenance, like: doesn't require styling and will not look horrible after growing for one week.

Also copying >>5913587, figure your most outstanding facial feature out and find celebrities who share it, look at their hairstyles. Find some that you like and ask the stylist if they would be good on you. That will also help you get a feel for what image you want. The only time I've been disappointed by a non-junior stylist was when I ended up looking just too adult. The cut itself was great, but my personality just didn't suit it, so I always stress that it has to look wild and mischievous.

Pic related, it's one of my references when I get a haircut. Alizee and I share the longest foreheads known to mankind, which was a huuuge (lolol) complex for me until I got bangs first time - my first non-mother haircut, at the ripe age of 21.

>>5914100
God, those flipped-out ends are so L Word circa 2004. Congrats, anon, you've discovered the gayest non-butch haircut possible.

>>5912209
How much tax money is being wasted on trying to make military look good right now?

>>5913129
THAT is a lie. Gay men make it a point to let women know they can't stand them. An lesbians make it a point to not go where they are not wanted. ...
>Tfw exactly how many real lesbian events have you really been to?

Hey, S, you wanna pay for all of us babydykes to go to The Dinah for the first time this year? C'mon, just think of it as a little community support.

>>5914249
I've heard from gays that straight women constantly assault them in clubs. grab their ass, stick their hand down their pants to grab their dick, try to kiss them with tongue... I've never seen it in person, but I've heard of similar behavior corroborated by multiple sources. I can understand why gay men wouldn't want straight women in their clubs.

>>5914283
None of us really want straight people in gay clubs, we just tolerate them because stupid gays decided to activist with unnuanced buzzword messages so now people think gays are hypocrites for wanting to maintain gay bars.

>>5912378
True, because military is similar to police and health care: you are the protector and you don't need help. Ever. Unless your guts are spilled on the ground and brother in arms brains are splattered all over the battlefield. Then maybe.

God I miss my service days ;__; Though I'd never actually want to serve another day

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>>5914316
Any chance you've kept your uniform?

>>5914323
Officially, no. Unofficially I have the whole "vacation uniform" gathering dust in my closet.

>>5914329
Post pic?

>>5914131
Too bad it hasn't increased my opportunities to do gay shit with other girls

>>5914347
You have a job and you're in the sexy field of medicine, every NEET on lesgen would lick your pussy in 0.5 instants.

>>5914338
Meh, it's more like a relic/memorial than something I'd wear for fun. I liked uniforms>/proper camo suits on female body before I joined the military. After the service I kinda loath uniformed women.

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>wikihow

>>5914488

>things that dont mean you're gay
>1) being gay

>>5914665
>tfw I used to think this way
I was turned on by girls and lesbian stuff and after I was like "It doesn't necessarily means I'm gay anyway."

>>5914681
>I-I'm just like this because I'm surrounded by girls!
>Everyone's feeling this way!
>w-when I know more boys I'll think straight things!

>>5914681
>hey, let's play the boy in this so I could be closer to my best girl friend
>hey, this girl is pretty cute!
>hey, red heads are great!
The worse in all of this is that it actually never occured to me I could be a lesbian until I was 19. And when I think about it, I was acting gay as fuck since the beginning. I drew Armitage almost naked and put it near my bed when I was 10, damnit. My walls were full of drawings of girls and Spider-Man when I was a kid.

>>5914707
Same
>>5914742
>Until 19
holy shit, the level of hypocrisy must've been over 9000 pal, I knex it at 10
But yeah, always wanting to be the boy and really liking physical contacts my older sister's girl friends wasn't considered gay to me.

Holy fuck you people talk about guys a lot.
Genuinely, why does lesgen talk about guys so much while gaygen hardly ever talks about girls?

>>5914804
gaygen doesn't talk about girl, they live through them.

>>5914767
>until 19
And I hated myself for it until 24. I just don't know how I did to be that much in denial, but maybe it had something to do with lesbians didn't exist in my world until high school. Nothing on tv, nothing in my family or friends. Gay men existed but lesbians didn't. But then I didn't care about anyone besides my close friends in high school, and even if I lived in a dormitory with girls, I never though of them in any other way than friends or stupid bitches.

>>5914742
Armitage, as in, voiced-by-Juliette Lewis Naomi Armitage?
'Cause I rented that movie from Blockbuster and 10-year-old me thought it was the shit.

>>5914804
Wuh.
I don't see any guy talk ITT at all.

>>5914836
The denial is a really strong thing, I hated myself for it for about 5 years too.
Before that I never thought girls as anything but otential friends/ boring or my equal.
It's so weird now, like I'd do anything for one to walk with heels on my naked body.

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>>5914850
Yes. Though I saw it in french. It was this drawing.

>>5914378
But NEET and sjw tongues and hands are banned from my pussy. Gotta have some standards. The sjws (including political lesbians) are plain unattractive and a NEET would feel like having sex with a kid. No thanks.

>>5914488
In the dearth of actual good lgbt studies Lisa Diamond made a pretty interesting one comparing self-reported sexual attraction and arousal during different points of the menstrual cycles of bis and lesbians. In short basically both have arousal by women to some degree at all times, but for bis the sexual attraction to men skyrockets during ovulation and for lesbians, the sexual attraction to women skyrockets instead. Drawing solid conclusions from this (with a small sample size) is too much, but I do think that at least some bis are attracted to men but can be aroused by women (+/- some degree of attraction), and that arousal and attraction really need to be separated in research.

>>5914862
Oh, sweet. I loved the first movie but you never hear anyone talk about it anymore, so I didn't realize it was so widespread.

I still have the two-DVD set somewhere, maybe I'll rewatch it tonight.

>>5914874
meant for >>5914863 I think

>>5914872
..And my point from this rambling, is that being aroused by some girl-on-girl kissing fantasy is not the same as feeling attraction to girls.
>notwithstanding the fact that having such fantasies with that mesmerized facial expression is gay as fuck

>>5914894
And being aroused by a girl-on-girl fantasy *involving yourself*.....is also pretty super homo.

>>5914874
Didn't see the ova since 13 years I think. I just remember it had awesome action scenes. I need to rewatch it.

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Got a dilemma for you /les/gen.

What if you see a really hot lesbian girl in a bar;
>11/10 face
>11/10 body
>awesome look
>holy shit how is she even gay
>possibly pic related
And she comes at you, and asks you to go out with her.
BUT
>free bleeds
>death to the patriarchy
>pronouns are xir/xe/xin
>SJW badge collection
>posters of Melody Hensley all over her room
>so on
Would you say Yes or No?

oh crackers

>went to Anon massage parlor this morning
>flirting with cute employee before and during
>got a happy ending
>10/10 shattered my brain
>prrrrrrobably going back

so how was your morning lesgen

>>5914922
One night stand and then leave.

>>5914922
I'd just nod and say "yes you are absolutely correct", then I get us to shower together so I can make sure she is clean, then we fuck, and then I get the fuck out of there.

If I do decide to try and pursue a relationship with her, I could just destroy all her arguments with facts and make her see the error of her ways. Then train her to clean herself up like a proper woman.

>>5914922
Fuck and leave. Duh.

>>5914922
dominate w/ most plump strapon and call her a little girl/ etc. during

later leave because free bleeding is the cutoff

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>>5914930
>>5914933
>>5914939
>>5914941
Women are just like men, pigs!
Using you for sex and breaking your heart because they don't want to deal with the "bullshits" that are really important to you.

>>5914922
Easy yes. I'd just call her by her name and not hang out with her when Aunt Flo is visiting. Who the fuck is Melody Hensley?

>>5914922
Tell her to fuck off since she's not my type and tumblr shit gets on my nerves.

>>5912937
>"oh god am I too subtle? too forward? is she even gay? can she tell I'm gay? she seems gay but what if she thinks I'm straight and just teasing her so she gets pissed at me and leaves oh god do I just scream I'M GAY"
I love this. Maybe I should try this.

>>5914928

I hope you tipped well, anon.

>tfw no women to pay me to fingerbang them

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>>5914949
>no knowing melody hensley

>>5914946
Hello, dickhuman.

>>5914962
Melody Hensley is an attention whoring asshole.

>>5914922
I can break these cuffs.

>>5914962
I don't know a Melody Hensley, but I know a Melody Gardot.

>>5914964
Nope, lesbian, like you(I hope)
And I know we're better than that. We have no dick need restraining us from thinking, how about we use the brain and do something out of it?

>>5914933
Most of the "facts" that the anti-SJW crowd like to use are actually just fabricated statistics and emotional appeals. They're twice as annoying as even the most screeching tumblr teen, because they don't even have the benefit of an independent narrative, it's just contrarian acrobatics (usually to the point of doublethink.)

Man, this place is so much better after you filter S. Everyone should try it. No more dumbass rambling and random anger.

>>5913554
Mousy long-hairs are my type, though! Anon! I implore you to reconsider!

Lesgen, what's on your eBay/Amazon wishlist right now?

>inb4 a girlfriend

>>5915044
a wife.

>>5915047
just marry your gf

>>5915057
what gf?

>>5915061
the one that's right behind you, anon.

>>5915044
Banana plugs and five different monitor stands.

>>5913885
P-please add me
4055-7177-1647

I also added the anon you replied to, so please add back.

>>5915142
Added!

Is Senran Kagura a good series on 3DS?

>>5915159
I liked it, but note I haven't played the Vita games because no Vita. Bretty gay too.

>>5915159
>>5915142
I added both of you back. This is kind of nice.

>>5915179
I agree. Do you have any multiplayer games?

>>5914272
Just start a crowd fund.
I don't have that kind of money. Maybe one or two. But daina is expensive. But that's not to say i won't invest in something i believe in.

>>5915257
>Maybe one or two

So...when can you pick me up, S? <3

>>5914316
You never should have invested your life for some rich assholes money.
But as mya angleo said when i knew better i did better. Sadly some had to pay with their live to learn such a lesson.

>>5915265
Lesbro i don't even know you.
Lel!

>>5915274
I learned to kill. So it wasn't wasted time actually.

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>>5915281
But do you want to get to know me, is the question?

>>5915195
Not any that are terribly recent. I think the newest game I have with any multiplayer elements is Pokemon XY. And before that was LoZ: Four Swords 10th Anniversary.

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>mfw I realise how insecure lots of lesbians are about their sexuality and themselves
I mean, what's up with the almost constant comparison with men and heterosexuality in forums, books, militant texts, etc. I have read, even when written by experienced women who seem comfortable with themselves? As a man, how can I help making lesbians more comfortable when I talk with them? Of course no harassment and stuff, but in my - limited - experience that's far from enough to make them less tense since the fear that I might be up to some shady things or always evaluating them seems to be ever present.

>>5915300
To'shy

>>5915377
You want to rephrase that without the spunk messing up your grammar?

>>5915384
>spunk messing up your grammar
>spunk (noun): courage, tenacity, semen, attractive male
What?

I just watched The Kids Are All Right, is Jules a lesbian?

>>5915377
Just post symphogay.

>>5915398
Semen.

>>5915405
Okay, now explain how semen and grammar interact.

>>5915377
The only thing I'm insecure about is all of the shit other people might project onto me and jump to assume about me if I come out. Just treat lesbians like normal people. The most annoying thing is to casually mention a gf and have people going "OH YOU'RE GAY, SO [random question that makes me know I'm going to be their token spokeslesbian from that second on]

>>5915398
Waitwhat. Different anon but "spunk" has meant a bad smell for like, forever. Dictionary y u so wrong here.

>>5915420
Your sperm has infected your cerebral fluid and has made you retarded. Don't worry, it happens to all men. You only have to rise above your tragic limitations.

>>5915432
It might be talking about American English only, where it definitely only means pluck and semen. "Attractive male" is new, I think fragile anon added it in to make himself feel better.

>>5915399
She's the same amount of lesbian as Lindsey Lohan.

>>5915444
I've heard 'spunk' refer to attractive male before

>>5915454
is that a yes or a no?

>>5915457
Haha! That's so gross.

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>>5915444
Pfftlol, you're definitely that one straight guy that bragged about how much of a joy it is to mock other men on here.

>>5915476
Wrong, I'm actually >>5915476

>>5915476
You're probably a dude too! Lesgen is ALL dudes! Lets all accuse each other of being dudes!

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>>5915485

Reminder that transbians are still worse than cis dudes attention whoring.

>>5915498
how much worse?

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>>5915492

>>5915502
A number close to infinite.

Ya'll faggots need Jesus

I was paddling a girl Monday night, we've been seeing each other for a while and I decided to spring some kinky stuff on her.

I beat her butt pretty good and I was kind of teasing her about moving up to a bigger paddle. I kept like baseball swinging so she could see me from the corner of her eye and she was getting pretty nervous.

I moved behind her again and swung it hard to make a whoosh sound to freak her out but she assumed it was coming at her butt and jerked forward and slammed her face into the headboard.

Busted her nose and kinda knocked herself out, not quite out but she was pretty wrecked.

Felt really bad.

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>>5915535

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my lesbian friend is loudly fucking the girl I like in my own bedroom

cis male here, thank you for this

>>5915044
fiio DAC/amp
Their Story
new mouse
power bank
travel charger
new tablet

>>5915539
I thought "paddling" referred to you two in a canoe. Oh well.

>>5915555
The fire is rising! Soon you'll bow to your lesbian overlords.

>>5915555
Nice quints. Also, is she aware you like this girl? If that girl isn't gay and she knows you like her then she's a bitch and is not your friend.

>>5915557
>fiio DAC/amp
which one?

>>5915566
>is she aware you like this girl?
yes

>If that girl isn't gay and she knows you like her then she's a bitch and is not your friend.
it isn't like she's my girlfiend, I don't own her

>>5915555
Thanks for not bashing the door in and shouting "THREESOME??!"

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>>5915555
Cheers!

Here I thought being easily disappointed with people just meant I was weak and fragile. Apparently it makes me super intelligent. Bow to your overlord. Bow to me....or honestly.....just leave me alone to play my video games.....

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a43274/higher-iq-social-circles/

>>5915557
Oh that would be really cute actually but I can't swim and her bloody nose is preferable to me drowning.

>>5915596
That's just correlations.

>>5915580
One of the finest hours in all of history.

>>5915580
Oh my god, that's fucking hilarious.

>>5915596
See that seems fucked to me because actual mentally retarded people that rank low on iq are most likely to be taken advantage of and abused in just about every society, so they'd be the ones to be the most disappointed if you asked them. But shitty popscience studies probably don't give a fuck about using iq exams in their proper context or looking into mental issues cause it's just not fun clickbait.

Why does my heart race for every round-faced Asian girl? Especially if they never act innocent.

>>5915377
That's nice af, sadly I don't think there's anything more you could do for lesbians unless not being a creep.

>tfw no opportunity to be a slutty farmer girl to a low-femme farmer gf

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>tfw no gf to cosplay Hexidecimal as she fucks me while Reboot is playing on a nearby TV

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>>5915685
That's nightmare inducing.

>>5915720
If by "nightmare", you mean "dream", Anon.

>>5915685
would let her rape me/10
>>5915720
well isn't that the point?
>tfw no nightmare about devil gf with tits DPing you

Questin was asked in gaygen, so how about here too;
How much people have you had sex with /les/gen?

>>5915760
I'll begin btw; 0.

>>5915760
Oh, I can't even count on my fingers, like, 0.

>>5915760
1

>>5915760
A number in between -100 and 100.

Spoiler alert: it's 0.

>>5915760
3 girls. Fite me.

>>5915822
you're a baller.

>>5915760
1 -- myself.

>>5915835
>tfw still 0 if we count ourselves

>>5915840
Well what are you waiting for?

>>5915731
Reboot was garbage, though. It was garbage when it was new, and it aged like pig milk.

>>5915760
10. I hadn't counted before. I feel bad about myself.

>>5915855
another girl to do it for me.
>>5915866
>10
how come you whore?

>>5915575
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00LP3AMC2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1458851706&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=fiio+dac+amp&dpPl=1&dpID=41Taa5DTsKL&ref=plSrch

>>5915760
0×0

>>5915685
She scared the shit out of me as a child.

>>5915860
Say what you want about Reboot but if you start hating on Beast Wars I'll have to assume there's something wrong with you.

>>5915760
I'm a virgin.

Why are gay guys such whoeres.

>>5915866
>10

fucking normie

>>5915912
Cute! I really wanted the E10, but it was discontinued when I went to buy it so I ended up getting an E07K instead.

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This is going to sound weird but I would force JMW Turner to transition and be my tranny slut.

>>5915760
7. All girls.
Jesus I feel like a slut ;_;

>>5915972
Sex with girls is pure. But I like calling girls sluts. So you're a pure slut.

>>5915968
shouldn't you be on bi gen?

>>5915760

4, all girls.
Muh gold star, etc.

>>5915979
I don't know whether to feel proud or ashamed. Probably both. But I want 8th to be my final and true love.

>>5915760
2 girls. three years apart. two years since I've had sex.

>>5915866
>>5915972
>>5916017
As long as it wasn't bad for other reasons (cheating, etc) I don't see why y'all feel bad about it.

>>5915760
2.

Both died, I can't risk a third.

>>5916027
Never cheated. But once I had a threesome with my gf and some friend of her. Anyway later she dumped me for her but I'm ok with it for some reason.

>>5915918
Beast Wars is good and Waspinator did nothing wrong. I had a Cheetor toy when I was little. I liked to change him into beast mode and stick out his little rocket thrusters so he'd be even faster when doing the arguably evil bidding of my Barbies.

The difference between Reboot and Beast Wars is that Reboot's premise was janky and it never accepted its camp. It tried to change genres almost every season.

>>5916035
Your vagina is cursed anon.

>>5916038
Nothing to feel bad about then.

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>>5916035
you're doing sex wrong.

>>5916053
I've always had a huge rape fantasy
>tfw no warrior woman to take me as her concubine

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>>5915760
7ish seems about right.

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>>5916070
Tokiko a best.

>>5915860
Fight me.

>>5916044
I liked doofus Waspinator better than brooding Waspinator. I had Tigerhawk, other toys rode it into battle. Not Barbies though, all of my Barbies met unfortunate ends.

>never accepted its camp
I think it occasionally did, but not consistently. Honestly I don't really remember, I didn't watch it as anywhere near as religiously as Beast Wars.

I want to watch all of these anime series, but then I walk around outside for 15 minutes and realize that the otaku life isn't really a life worth living.

>>5916087
>tfw you used a 4th grade art project as an excuse to behead barbies.

>tfw modern art isn't any better than your 4th grade art projects

>>5916100
I'm not sure what you think "the otaku life" is, but there are plenty of people who watch anime AND go outside.

___@°/°

hey girls, i'm a snail

>>5916175
ewww

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>>5916075
I just had the image saved, I didn't know who it was. A quick google search later and you weren't kidding. Mmph.

>>5916105
Childhood friend and I burned one at the stake in 5th grade because someone had told us Barbies created unrealistic expectations for women. We threw the burnt carcass in the garden and my little brother found it years later, I think it ended up in one of her high school art projects after I showed it to her for nostalgic laughs.

I still have one that lost an arm in a tragic parachuting accident and had the socket turned into a bloody stump because I was interested in special effects at the time. It's terrible because I was 11 or 12, but I never felt like throwing it out for some reason.

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>>5915972
>Jesus I feel like a slut ;_;
>>5915866
>I feel bad about myself.

I wouldn't think you're a "whore" or a "slut". If there was chemistry, I'd even want to date you. What you might experience though, if girls think your number is too high, it's probably their own insecurity about how you see them. They might feel disposable, like just another "notch on your bedpost". If they aren't, you may need to go a little further to assure them that you won't casually throw them away and move on to the next girl.

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>>5916066

>>5916189
________________@;/;

but i just want a gf...

>>5916243
be my snail gf

>>5916105
>>5916213
When I played Barbies I had a Barbie and Ken that were married and a Midge and Nikki that "lived together" and usually after a while I would realize I didn't like playing with Ken so much and would kill him off and make Barbie live with Midge and Nikki in a small cot in the corner of their bedroom.

>>5916266
___@*/*

oh golly, i must be the happiest snail on 4chan right now!

>>5916311
_@'O' hello snail friends

>>5916311
>>5916318
you bitches are high as fuck though

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Sails please go.

\_O< *quack*

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>>5916332
_@'O' NO DEAL

I wonder if they're are any lesbians red pilled on female nature and if so how do you justify your attraction to other women

>>5916406
the vagina wants what it wants.
And it's always a question of time before you realise the female gender is the best thing that ever existed on earth.

>>5916406
>>>/pol/

>>5916201
Why bother with the laughable boobs and butt pose if you're flat on both counts?

>>5916406
Red pillers are just as bad as extreme SJWs, they're just on the opposite side of the spectrum.

>>5915535
I love Jesus. That fool dose my gardening every Tuesday

>>5916406
What is the Red Pill community exactly? Only thing I've heard about is claiming women have it better in life than men and such bullshit can't be true.

>>5915760
14 different girls. Ten of which I had been in a relationship with. Three of which I was their first time.

>>5916478
>that pussy slayer anon.
How old are you?

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>>5916365
Band together, friends, they won't take *us* down!

>>5916461
MRA, /pol/, R9K, etc. They all use the same terminology and circlejerked, easily dismissed rhetoric. But when you're high off the smell of your own farts, that kind of thing doesn't matter. It's all about the "camaraderie."

>>5916488
So basically they're just a bunch of losers who failed life and are utterly failed human beings? Thanks for the info.

>>5916175
Heeeey. Im a turtle

I've just had an epiphany: tumblr can be summarized as "my oppression is bigger than yours!"

>>5916543
I don't go on tumbler. Don't know what you gals are talking about when you refer to it.
:(

>>5916543

"Tumblr: Come for the porn and fantarding, leave because people keep reblogging shit about Israel and gender fluidity."

>>5916558
I have a Tumblr because I'm a slut for qt girl couple pics and lesbian relationship goals. Otherwise I'm so fed up with all the "I'm demisecjspfopisfkops bullshit"

>>5916558
Oh hey, I wanted to copy paste something funny I found there, so here's a little taste of it:

If you are a lesbian and you’re dating/fucking a trans man, even if he’s not transitioning, even if he came out to you after you started dating, even if he calls himself a “dysphoric female/lesbian”, you’re committing a horrid act of violence towards trans womyn. You are directly implying that lesbianism is about dating afab people and that trans women can’t at all or can only be lesbians under specific circumstances.

Either break up with the dude or call yourself a vaginophile.

>>5916558
S, how old are you?

>>5916576
Old enough to know not tell.

>>5916564
Israel shouldn't exist. I'm not an anti-Semite, I'm a curly haired Jew, but I'm anti-Zionist. All it's done is destabilize the region, and it's grounded in the worst kind of nationalistic, religious-motivated fervor. This isn't what we were promised. The state of Israel is downright sacrilegious.

>>5916481
24. But it's been about two years since I've last hopped in bed with anyone.

>>5916588

:(

But I love old lady pussy. I want to know that lesgen isn't just full of 17-23 year olds.

>>5916607
I'm 9 yo.

>>5916607
Same
mommy replacement where?

>>5916607
S aside, there are quite a few anons in their late 20's/early 30's.

>>5916621

Nooooo, mommy types would treat me like a kid. The last thing I want is to be babied.
>tfw bitter because I look underage and always am babied

I like older though because I can't deal with the insecurities of girls my age and I want to date someone mature and more stable who wants to settle down soon and not party and get drunk.

>>5916658
>>tfw bitter because I look underage and always am babied

Argh those feels. I'm nearly 30 and still get treated like a kid because I look so young. A guy today told me "be careful girlie, you be a good girl now" (referring to some wiring I was doing at work). Fuckin hell, what's wrong with people?

>Get told I look like Ellen Page
>Still not sure if insulted or not

>>5916912
ellen page is such a qt

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>>5916912
Ellen Page is a super qt, especially when she's femme.
Are you less of a midget than she is? Because Ellen Page's face + femme + tall is pretty much 10/10

>>5916943
I'm fucking 5'1"

>>5916912
Ellen Page is adorable, how could that be an insult?

>>5916976
RIP

>>5916976
TEXAS
E
X
A
S

I want a big-cheeked girlfriend to pin up against a wall so that she has to wrap her legs around me.

>>5916943
>dat Haligonian accent and vocal fry

hhnnngg, take me on a gaycation with u

What do I want to watch on Netflix when I lay down? I might just borrow my friend's Hulu info to watch Ru Paul's...

>>5917013
Desert Hearts or Claire of the Moon

>>5917013
>Ru Paul's
Isn't that way more fun to watch with others?

>>5917033
It is. But I'm a lonely fucker.

>>5917013
SCI-FI/HORROR
Black Mirror
John Dies At The End
Oldboy (2003 only)

COMEDY/HORROR
Tucker and Dale vs. Evil
Frank
Housebound

DRAMA
Better Call Saul
It's Such A Beautiful Day
Horns

SITCOM
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Bob's Burgers
The IT Crowd

GOD DO I WISH I COULD FUCK YOU
Continuum
Parks and Recreation
The X-Files

DOCUMENTARIES
Bernie
Life
Chef's Table

Do you have genres you particularly like?

>>5913403
No, just lots of money. The yearly dues are astronomical. Despite the perks, I left the club because it cost to much.

>>5916215
I'm well over 7 * 10, swingers club action...

>>5916607
>>5916645
A few of us are even older.

>>5916723
My crows feet, gray hair, and drivers license are the only things that tell anybody I'm over 20.

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Why is this ok? Could one pose as a straight woman in order to touch another woman's vagina? Is it against the rules to give it a lick?

>>5917122
I hope the one on the right is gay. She's so pretty.

>>5917133
I think it's Stevie, if it is yeah she's gay.
She did the video where gay men touched her vagina.

>>5917122
That's definitely against the rules, but maybe if you asked nicely afterwards she'd let you "experiment"...

One of my future goals is to pretend to be an innocent straight girl and look on craigslist or something for a lesbian who wants to try to convert me. The only reason I haven't yet is because I'm pretty sure I'll exclusively get replies from fat women, trashy women, married women wanting threesomes, and dudes.

>>5917093
>Better Call Saul

Is this any good? I just finished Breaking Bad a few months ago. I didn't hate it, but I didn't really enjoy it until the last few seasons.

I enjoyed True Blood, Orange is the New Black, Game of Thrones... You know, pleb stuff.

>>5917138
I've completed my dream of pretending to be a straight girl in a gay club and getting fucked by some dyke and made to eat her pussy after. Good times.


I do act like a straight girl around straight girls. Just out of habit. Straight girls do some hella gay shit.

>>5916912
I've had strangers come up to me and tell me that. I think it's a generic lesbian facial types desu. And I don't know either what to make out of it, like people say she's cute but also that she looks kinda odd in a way

>>5917146
If you liked saul and mike from the show and wish it'd just be about those two dudes instead of lame ass meth addict and narcissistic cancerman than yeah. It's better writing and characters but less action.

>>5917013

I have been watching nothing but travel shows especially Anthony Bourdain's The Layover and Parts Unknown. Also enjoyed watching Wildest India.

Really makes me want to travel and eat all the local foods, especially India, although I'll probably die from the shits if I went there.

>>5917146
Then I would definitely recommend Better Call Saul. It really surprised me.

>>5917152
> Straight girls do some hella gay shit.
Holy shit I hate when straight girls do gay shit, this is so annoying, like, stop pretending you're not a cocksucker and go fuck yourself.

>>5917153
That.
That right there.
That's why I find it almost offensive.

>>5917159
Mike was the best fucking character. Saul being a close second. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'll watch that. Thanks, anon.

>>5917160
I had a span of like... Three months where I only watched cooking competition shows and shit like Cake Boss between Disney movies.

>>5917160
Have you seen An Idiot Abroad?

>>5917137
YessSSSSSSSSSSSS
I mean, I still have virtually no chance, but now it's not literally zero, so it's a step up.

>>5917170
I seriously don't mind it cause I get straight girls making out with me. It's cool with me as long as I see them as just slutty chicks joking around and don't catch feelings.

The only time it bugs me is when shit like this happens

>hanging with some straight slutty girl
>straight slutty girl does some vaguely gay thing with me
>of her own free will
>no pressures on my part
>she just decided to make out with me or sit on my lap or dance with me or grab my tits in a joking matter or some similarly gay shit
>i didn't ask for this shit but I'm not gonna stop it either
>after the gay shit she finds out I'm actually literally factually irl a total lesbo
>gets mad at me saying I took advantage of it
>cause she wouldn't have done all that super lesbian shit with an real lesbian
>so basic no homo bullshit

>>5917179
>I had a span of like... Three months where I only watched cooking competition shows and shit like Cake Boss between Disney movies
Kat? Is that you? Why have you started posting on 4chan?

>>5917195
CLOSE!
But not Kat.

>>5917209
Kit?

>>5917215
Kay.

>>5917185
Yes. Very much enjoyed Karl's adventure in India. Fucking hilarious. I can see why Ricky and Stephan like to prank him so much. The way Karl's eyes fucking bulged out of his head when he saw how the Indian yoga masters pretty much cracked their own dicks.

>>5917219
Karl is great. He makes me think that he could have probably been brilliant, if only his shitty childhood didn't conspire to train him wrong as a joke. He makes these startling connections and really tries to explain high-minded ideas, but he doesn't have the language or background for communicating them and Ricky and Stephan are too big of knuckleheads to get it. Or maybe that's their gag, but sometimes they're way to hard on ol' Karl.

But you're right. He has the best reactions to shit.

>>5915760
3.

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>shower
>shave the v
>suddenly can't stop thinking about/craving the taste of a silky smooth pussy

>>5917371
Stop being so gay.

>>5917371
I like sweaty, hairy pussy better. It makes me dizzy.

>>5917380
Why would you ever say something so vile? You be gayer.

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>>5917392
>I like sweaty, hairy pussy better. It makes me dizzy
Oh Jesus, same. Hairy pussy just seems so delicious, I need it.

>>5917170

I've had sex with more straight chicks than I have lesbians. It baffles me. I never initiate it either, they're the ones who practically throw themselves into my vag. I always figured maybe it's because I'm pretty boyish and that makes them comfortable...like "hey I can still be straighty mcstraight but also see what soft skin and vagina is like".

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>>5917428
Y'all are killing my ladyboner.

>>5917447
>she likes chicken skin vagina or is a pedophile
Disgusting.

>>5917445
How boyish are we talking? And since we're on the subject, please tell us both your hirsuiteness preference and personal grooming.

I trim things up and make my arms and legs bare, but I don't remove anything from my mound except height, and my underarms only get shaved in the summer. To be fair, my part of the world only has summer and rainy-cool, so it's most of the year, but I just don't care enough.

>>5917473
>she wants to lick a bearded vagina and pick the curly hairs out of her teeth one by one afterwards
Absolutely haram.

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>>5917542
I do.

>>5913115
Who are you talking about S?
>>Tfw on phone, can't backtrack archive.

>>5913399
What if the harder you worked the better you get fucked when you return home?

>>5917682
>Tfw GF is deployed
>Tfw five more months (at least) before she will be coming home from work every night
>Tfw five more months before I can have nice dinners cooked and waiting on her
>Tfw five more months before I can rub her shoulders
>Tfw five more months before she slams me on the kitchen table and takes me

life is tough

>have good friend in the states
>she and her gf are adorable together
>every time I spend any time talking to said friend, I develop a huge crush on her
>her laugh is the most perfect sound ive ever heard

Ffffffffffffffff

>>5917734
That escalated quickly. Thank you.

>>5917758
>talked to my ex for the first time in months
>that's fine, I'm completely over her
>she tells a dumb pun and laughs at it
>her laugh
>shit
>have to remind myself of all the reasons we broke up
>still kind of stuck on her after the conversation ended

>my girlfriend wouldn't even be mad if we fucked again

This is hell. I'm in hell. I live by only my own standards and fail to meet them. Fuck.

>>5917758
Are you Canadian?

>>5917853

English.
Im up late playing games with her and chatting with her on skype and trying to avoid falling in love with her laugh again

>>5917829
Ouch anon, that cant be fun

>tfw starting to realize you might actually be fucking autistic
>mom mentioning off hand she should have gotten you evaluated as a kid
>three members in your immediate family do have actual autism
Shit, what girl is gonna want an autist as a gf? Should I just an hero now?

>>5917884
Autism is a spectrum, m8. What kind of autist are you?

>>5917917
>Autism is a specter
Spooky.

>>5917884
Are you kidding? There are shitmillions of autistic chicks out there, many of them in this thread. Just hook up with one of those.

>>5917917
I don't know, mild? I feel like I've only managed to hold down a job by just copying other people. I've always felt like I'm bad at being an actual person, if that makes sense. I don't get it. I'm planning on seeing a therapist next month anyway because I've been an anxious mess since high school and everything is getting worse.
My brother and uncle and a cousin all have autism, and they all range from mid to high functioning. So idk. I can do math, but I'm still shit at tying shoes.
>>5917932
B-but I don't want to date a girl unless she was at the same autist level as me. If she's worst then I am, what if I start considering more like someone to take care of than as an equal? And if she's high functioning than me, than what if I start resenting her for that?

What's your favorite band/artist?

>>5918187
fair to midland

>>5917860
>English
Oh, I didn't know you guys called America the states. G-good luck anon.