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Scale Warfare

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Historical reenactment/LARP exists.
First person view drone racing exists.
Scale RC aircraft/watercraft exist.
Battlebots and drone fighting exist.
Military simulation/LARP exists.

Why isn't scale dogfighting a thing?
>Concerns regarding space, noise, and safety?
Existing proper rc airfields should be large enough to be used. No louder then existing rc jets.

>Concerns regarding cost/waste?
See: reenactments, LARP, mil-sim, concerts, battlebots, model trains, warhammer, firearms, movie theater, etc
If one designs their aircraft properly, it shouldn't cost more than a few dozen or so dollarydoos to repair.

>But aircraft are bigger than you think.
At 1/10th scale, most things scale really nicely. A 1/10th scale f22 fits into a 6x4x2 ft area, so it can fit through all doors and fit into most cars.

>But how to win?
Get a hit on hydraulics. Wreck the control surfaces and cause a crash. Set up a line of cartridge fuses that matches the outline of a sitting man in the cockpit and connect them to a logic gate that cause led's to flash on the aircraft when enough break or there is a head/heart shot. The normal way that a person wins a dogfight, kill the pilot or disable the enemy aircraft.

>but why?
A couple hundred or a few thousand is way cheaper than a few dozen million.
There is no other way to see an X32 and a YF23 fight. Plus you get to play irl fighter pilot without the risk of death.


>tl;dr
Why no real life war thunder?
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1/10th scale works out pretty perfectly.
308 turns into 0.762mm, and they make 1mm steel bb/shot, close enough.
50bmg turns into 1.27mm, and they make steel shot that exact size.
20mm turns into 2mm, and they make 2mm steel rod and 2.03mm steel shot.
23mm is moderately uncommon and is close enough to 25mm, or if someone wants to get autistic they can just used a lathe.
25mm turns into 2.5mm, and they make 2.5mm steel rod and 2.41mm steel shot.
30mm turns into 3mm, and they make 3mm steel rod and 3.05mm steel shot.
35mm turns into 3.5mm, and they make 3.5mm steel rod and 3.3mm steel shot.
37mm is moderately uncommon and is close enough to 40mm, or if someone wants to get autistic they can just used a lathe.
40mm turns into 4mm, and they make 4mm steel rod and 4.06mm steel shot.
50mm turns into 5mm, and they make 5mm steel rod and 5.08mm steel shot.
105mm turns into 10.5mm, and they make 10.5mm steel rod and 9.14mm steel shot (000 buck) and 9.65mm steel shot (0000 buck) and 10.32mm steel bb's (13/32in).


Missiles you say?
18mm commercial engines scale to 18cm diam rockets.
13mm commercial engines scale to 13cm diam rockets.
6mm commercial engines scale to 6cm diam rockets.
Rockets are mostly between 130mm diam and 350mm diam.
You can also just make your own engines with black / smokeless.
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>>35091506
>Historical reenactment/LARP exists.
>First person view drone racing exists.
>Scale RC aircraft/watercraft exist.
>Battlebots and drone fighting exist.
>Military simulation/LARP exists.

none of which is relevant to this board. take it to >>>/toy/ or >>>/vg/
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But how would you deal with brass/primers for stupid small things at 2-5mm's?
You can do like kolibri did if you want to be autistic, or you can just use compressed air or hydraulics, or even something like a kalthoff repeater.
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>>35091506
There's this thing called ribbon dogfighting. RC aircraft trailing ribbons behind them. If another aircraft gets behind them and chops the ribbon, it's considered to be a kill.
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>>35091545
>>none of which is relevant to this board.
>military aircraft
>dogfights
>hypothetical discussion
If /ak/ threads and state X sucks threads are somehow legitimate, then this thread is more than welcome.
Fuck off.
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How could you dogfight with RC airplanes shooting real guns, someone in the audience is going to get shot
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>>35091506
a company called Armortek makes tanks in 1/6th scale to scale thickness, makes for fun running tank models
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>>35091579
Becuase they are mostly going to be shooting 3mm (11cal) and below. Momentum and air resistance says it should be pretty safe. Most likely only safety glasses are needed.
And if someone does come around with an ac130 or something that fires scale 40mm and scale 105mm rounds, then bulletproof glass exists.
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>This is a Model /k/lub thread now!
post your builds everyone
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>>35091573
you might as well be talking about dungeons and dragons with lead figurines.
take that shit to >>>/toy
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>>35091701
>hurr, its smaller than normal, therefore is figurine
Excellent argument... Try reading/thinking next time.
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>Scale model RC dogfighting with real guns

You can't have guns fire with a remote or radio control even if only in semi auto as the ATF will classify that as a machinegun
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>>35091506
I think I've seen this done with lasers, like in those irl dogfighting schools out west but with r/c planes. I do know they sell gun simulators made with speakers and LEDs.
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>>35091701
I'm sorry, that was unnecessarily rude. My point was that functionality and mechanical systems are being replicated, so the comparison to static figurines was not legitimate.
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>>35091736
Airguns can generate bullet velocites, and because of the small scale there shouldn't be (much) worry about velocity drop or capacity.
There is also the option of doing it on the ocean.
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>>35091775
Airsoft, bb, or airguns are not considered firearms so your good to go, People have put real guns in tanks before, but they have to be fired via a lanyard like an artillery piece because of the NFA shit

Ship clubs battle each other with BB guns all the time
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>>35091775
>>35091798
Which is also why 1/16th scale tanks these days shoot airsoft
>pic related
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Scale model to keep the thread spicy.
(Bastard child of SR71 and F117)
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>CTRL + F "square cube law"
>0 results
Uh, guys? That's a thing. Your maneuverability, efficiency, weapon effectiveness, and so on will be wildly affected by scale.
If you just want to have fun, then fine. Just know that if you're looking for any kind of faithful recreation, that's going to be a problem. Many things that wouldn't work at full scale will work at smaller scales, and many things that work at smaller scales wouldn't work at full scale.
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>>35091847
>I will match your bastard with my own bastard
RC 1/16 M490 Sherming
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>>35091946
>Your maneuverability,
This goes up. The solution is not to mimic the range of control surfaces 1:1, and to compensate to achieve real maneuverability.

>efficiency
This goes up. Running out of fuel isn't fun, so whatever. Either each person gets the same amount of theoretical joules, or they compensate to achieve accurate scale ranges, or they just have fun. Doesn't matter too much as long as you aren't a faggot and afterburner spam.

>weapon effectiveness,
If the goal is competition rather than fun, then a regulation regarding the guages could be used to solve it. Not the end of the world.

>so on will be wildly affected by scale.
Yes.

>If you just want to have fun, then fine.
Yes.

>Just know that if you're looking for any kind of faithful recreation, that's going to be a problem.
A fairly easily solved problem.

>Many things that wouldn't work at full scale will work at smaller scales, and many things that work at smaller scales wouldn't work at full scale.
Yes. But we are talking about 1/10th scale, not 1/25th or 1/50th. You get a decent mix of full scale and small scale.
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>>35080698
9.99/10, would help crowdfund to make functional scale replica for dogfighting.
E-sports shit, give me scale sports.
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Maintaining the spice.
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>>35091594
They are so expensive tho. The pak 40 I still want
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>>35091545
you seem to be missing the point. of course you're stupid so that was expected.
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>>35094228
>First person view drone racing exists

Its a fun thread
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>>35094026
>paying someone else to make your niche product
I see your mistake.
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>>35094026
Yeah they aren't cheap, but you do get what you pay for, their AT guns though are alot more affordable.

As expensive as they are though they are equally as addictive... which is a dangerous thing as before you know it you have a house full of these things
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>>35094727
The tank kit alone without the electronics start at USD $5,000.00 desu

The electronics package is another 2K... then there are the Aftermarket details, engine, working fans, animations...etc
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>>35094758
>The electronics package is another 2K
See: >>35094727
It's hobbyist electronics, you're getting fucked.
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>Early tiger I maybach HL210 engine, 1/6th scale
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I always had this idea as a kid that the 12 inch GI Joes of the future would be like Terminators and able to control RC, so that you could have massive battles in your yard without having to manually move pieces and that the guns would shoot BB's or pellets.

And this is someone that had a replica of a WW1 trench set in his yard as a boy with GI Joes on both sides and would simulate artillery with M80's
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1/6th scale SDKFZ 222 Armored car 2 cm KwK 30 L/55 autocannon, all scratch built
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>>35094839
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>>35094839
>>35094853
And the finished 222
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>>35094864
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>>35094837
>12 inch GI Joes
Probably not gramps. Robotics and ball joints don't mesh very well/easily.
You could get humanoid locution within the 12in constraints, but the arms are the biggest hurdle.
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>>35094877
full interior
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>>35094888
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>>35094901
and the frame with working 4 wheel steering and spring suspension... all scratch built
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>>35091506
It's been done for years with rc prop-planes. A paper streamer is flown behind each aircraft. You have to cut off all of the enemy's streamer to get a kill. There are videos on YouTube
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>>35091506
Laser tag would probably be the best bet.

If that doesn't tickle your autism, use AR to make the FPV footage look more real.
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>>35094853
>>35094839
Swingo anon, well done.

You know what needs to be done next.
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>>35094988
>Laser tag would probably be the best bet.
>wax coated paper mache airframes.
While you are onto something, it is a lot easier to find ballistic glasses/goggles than it is to find laser glasses.
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>>35091946
Historically correct scale maneuverability could be achieved with microcontrollers and solid state gyros. Actually this would be really fun to program.
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>>35091617
>1/10 scale 105mm is 10.5mm which is .44 cal
>Firing .44 cartridges out of an rc plane
Fund this now.
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As a kid in the '80s, I dreamed of today's FPV technology because I wanted to build a big RC plane with a shotgun to take ducks air to air. I know if would be illegal as fuck, but man it would be fun.

What scale would an ME109 need to be to have a .410 in the nose? Ducks are B17s...
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>>35095848
Well, that would be about 1/2 scale. A 1/4 scale version could fire .20 airgun pellets full auto. That would fuck up a duck, right?
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>>35091946
Most people on /k/ aren't engineers or scientists. I've seen a lot of dumb fucking shit said on here.
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>>35091506
>Existing proper rc airfields should be large enough to be used. No louder then existing rc jets.
Most RC airfields are electric only nowadays. Virtually all are sanctioned and insured by the AMA, and therefore prohibit aircraft from carrying "any device which propels a projectile."

That said, I've thought about doing it anyways. Probably not dogfighting, but it'd be fun to BRRRT some balloons with a simple cloud chamber BBMG.
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>>35095931
Oh, and I forgot to mention, model warship combat is already a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDgTeK-D5I

I'm pretty sure the major reasons why it's never done with model aircraft are 1) difficulty of aiming (which is admittedly less problematic with the advent of FPV), and 2) safety.
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https://youtu.be/U0TzNc7Jc0k
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>>35095023
>Junsen B w/ hanger interior
Been there done that
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>>35095023
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>>35091701
nyet /toy/ is not for military stuff
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>>35091506
>rip your dog (ATF) and your life savings (FAA)
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I want to get in on this with my P40, maybe put a kolibri in it. But, as a model builder, any plane made of foam or plastic would have an unfair advantage so balsa frames and tissue/foil plating should be enforced
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>>35096854
That's what you think anon :^)
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>>35097115
I was thinking proper scale airframes made from steel/aluminum.
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>>35097290
Would be heavy and they would just bend. I want to see planes obliterated mid flight. Maybe .22 birdshot would work
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>>35097390
airborn railguns?
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If detail like this can be accomplished in 1/50th scale, then there is no excuse for the faggots currently doing 1/4 through 1/12 scale to only worry about the general shape and exterior.
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Posting corsair
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Plz don't let dream die. Bumperango
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>>35099683
I presume you are talking about planes?
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>>35102095
Yes.
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>>35091518
This is the kind of thinking I'd want involved in such a project.

>>35091946
>>35092077
It could be an entirely fictional setting with fictional planes, vehicles, and factions. Have it take place on a 500 acre ranch or something, big enough to be an entire theater of battle and also provide a nice safety zone. Even if you didn't have aircraft some first-person, remote-operated tanks and shit are definitely going to be fun if you actually get to break them. There's something fun about breaking stuff, people like it, they'll pay to do it if it's done right.

Aircraft can be made of modular components with a drop-in core that serves as the control unit and so on. As long as that survives (and hardening electronics is not difficult) you can save a lot of money if you're using coated foam and wood for most of it. Arrange bases at opposite ends of the play area, have the players sit in something that resembles cockpits, and then let them have at it.

A leader board for squadrons and a discount for groups that come in, every day have the "front" moved around a bit and have a general outline of the missions. Put an ATC on both sides and staff filling in as AWACS, ground forces, and the occasional civilian heavy and I think you have something great.

Cheeky types like >>35091847 >>35091977 and >>35093333 (czeched) to come up with neat designs for stuff. Of course a recovery team for finding the crashed planes is also important. Gotta keep costs down.

>>35095848
>As a kid in the '80s
.410 shotguns or firearms of any kind are a no-go, but compressed air is possible.

Plus we could blast retrowave in the background for atmosphere, so in the Grim Future of 1996 where <team one> slugs it out with <team two> skilled pilots are all that stands between annihilation and another day's survival.

Are you a bad enough dude to be king of the skies?
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>>35102095
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>>35102103
gotcha
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>>35102146
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>>35102107
I like you.

>Plus we could blast retrowave in the background for atmosphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY
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>>35102182
>Kavinsky
I like you too, but I am surprisingly not a fan of most of his stuff and that included.

I actually was just listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAon4mBkuNo

To me it's less "I want to blow shit up" and more "I want to swoop in and drop off ammo while bullets ping off my hull" kind of music. Maybe there's people more interested in that? It would be really neat to have multi-day events where people can play together like that, remote-controlled ground vehicles would be easy to do so that would be fun.

I'm still not sure how to do flak. As long as the explosive quantity is low enough it's not a DD, and since it's ground-based there's not a weight or size limit. (most of the infrastructure can just go underground) Something just big enough to make a nice flash with lingering smoke and also be strong enough to shred foam, plastic, and balsa.

Players will inevitably wreck stuff, but since we're just dealing with airsoft guns pushing steel pellets as hard as we possibly can it's not going to be much. Crashing a plane is going to do more.
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>>35102353
>It would be really neat to have multi-day events where people can play together like that
If milsim events are a thing, I see no reason why this couldn't be.

>I'm still not sure how to do flak.
I feel like simulated flak using a cone of pellets that is the proper radius as the flak explosion at a given altitude would be easier. Flak visuals would be no problems, but I think it would be easiest to handle the damage and visuals differently.
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>>35102422 >>35102353
>differently.
*separately
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>>35102422
Probably, but I'd really like to be able to make a little mid-air pop that peppers everything in tiny pellets. That would be so cool, especially if you had like a tutorial area where you could physically demonstrate it. I've built a wind tunnel before, having a dummy plane get blasted to bits in a stream of wind is absolutely possible. A good way to build people's excitement and suspense, especially if little bursts start showing up all over.

Plus we could also do a ground-based shotgun thing. This is an entirely fictional setting, we can do whatever we want.

I've also come up with an idea for the construction, have a jig for a basic skeleton and to hold whatever greebles and recesses that the part needed to have. Then when the skeleton is done, close it in a mold and blast it with foam. Dip in primer, dry, paint, hydrographic printing bath.

Wings with working lights, landing gears, pockets for weapons, working hardpoints, and so on could be done this way. Literally the only thing that matters is the control box and salvaging stuff from the recycled components. A workshop for keeping things running would be great, and if a part isn't damaged too bad it can be tested and patched up by support team. (how's that for a minimum wage job?)
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>>35091506
Dont tell the atf but I was envisioning the exact same fucking thing yesterday, a massive rc b17 with rc fpv turrets and a pilot against an rc fpv bf109
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>>35092077
>as long as you aren't a faggot and afterburner spam
Already establishing the meta

This needs to be real
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>>35094735
Knowing how big 1/6 figures are those things must be fucking massive, how do you store them?
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>>35094918
Do you have a youtube channel man, id love to see more
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>>35091617
This is about to be your audience
https://youtu.be/c6BPO2FU1u4?t=2m18s
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>>35091701
Even if you were correct in your logic, which you are not, the correct board would to send them to would be >>>/tg/
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>>35097115
Hey, I recognize your build from the other forum.
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>>35091553
Electric ignition, makes sense since everything will be electrically operated.
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>>35102107
>>35102353
Lots of potential to stream and cast events. Maybe have a safety orange drone or two with cameras along with fixed ground cameras.
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The real question here is why, seeing as we have scale tanks that shoot, why scale Panzerfahren isn't a thing.

If it's the lack of cute girls, you can always add figures
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>>35091506
Add this to the list I didn't need until someone said it. God, I'd travel international just to do this

You could also incorporate land and sea battles into the battles. After all there is scale ships and tanks that fire bbs
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>>35103944
Land is fine, the scales used there are within logistical reason of the aircraft. However watercraft are absolutely fucking massive. You're talking like 50-100 feet long. It's possible, but immensely cost prohibitive.

I think scale naval warfare will have to be a more manageable scale, with land and air following suit.
Shouldn't be a deal breaker for anyone, it just means that those events will be more naval centric with carriers and battleships taking the main stage, and aircraft armament's scale being less realistic.
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When it comes to scale modeling, I'm like one of those alcoholics who's sober 355 days a year but then crashes during the last ten days.

Anyways, heres some of my stuff
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>>35104344
Everything you see is 1/35
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>>35104357
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>>35104357
.... keep going. Really nice stuff man
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>>35104370
Thanks. Will do. At least for another couple of pics until the M20 dio is finished
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>>35104388
Sorry for the tilted pics. 4chan and cellphone pics are no friends
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>>35104443
Man, color me impressed. Gotta knock out but I'll check back tomorrow for the full reveal. Really nice work, wish I had the mindset and aptitude for this
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>>35104454
Thank you. This dio got me a 3rd place at a local scale modeling exibition
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>>35104479
The cigarettes and stuff have been printed out on thin paper to scale and then folded.
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>>35104491
Last one of this dio. Will check back later with another one
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>>351044>>35104491
>>35104479
>>35104469
>>35104461
>>35104450
Fellow modelfag checking in.

Looks great m8, Thats some pretty good weathering too. It always pains me to see stuff looking "factory fresh" all the time.
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>>35091506
>Why isn't scale dogfighting a thing?
I don't know about dog fighting but drones seem like they would be super effective against conventional aircraft.
>Difficult to hit with conventional armament
>Cheap to deploy
>Small radar signature
>Fly one into a jet engine kamikaze style for maximum results
I know altitude and maneuverability would be an issue but a stationary swarm of these things could create a cloud of unflyable airspace where a conventional dogfight would be a death sentence.
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>>35104523
Hey, thanks man. Its more or less enamel or artist oil paints and lighter fluid.

As you can see, this dio is meant to show the later stages of the battle for carentan. The M20 belongs to 2nd tank division and thus only has seen 3 to 4 days of combat - at max. So I kept aging at a minimum and focused on regular dirt. For example the mud on the floor of the M20 since they landed at Utah beach and had to cross those flooded areas
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Ok, another one. Again: Sorry if the pics are tilted. And it may take some time to post them all (I'm at work)

Background is the invasion of Pattons army into a town close to the rhine. Its early march and sleeting so everything's wet and muddy.
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>>35104869
Thanks to the tick armor, the Jumbo ate the german pak round like a champ
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>>35104889
Since the Jumbo is in the ETO for a couple of months now, I aged the paint a little. The large parts got a little bleached.
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>>35104899
You may notice the MG42 on the rooftop. I did it on purpose because I think its highly pobable that a crew would love to add some anti-infantry firepower for free.
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>>35104903
The market has some products that simulate water. I used this on the sherman to simulate the melting snow and rain mix thats coming down
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>>35104914
Well thats fucked.
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>>35104924
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>>35104933
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>>35104945
The Mud is a mix of paint, very fine sand and cigarette ash
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>>35104950
The house and the rest of the dio is completely made from scratch. I used a picture I found online of a real house during wartime and used a bicycle as a measurement to get my 1/35 measure.
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>>35104958
Anyone lurking?
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Cardboard was also the base for the road. And making this with a scredriver is a serious pain in the ass (same goes for the stones of the lower parts of the house)
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>>35104972
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>>35104979
Let it rain
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>>35104964

I am anon
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>>35105046
Alright
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>>35105055
Grandma doesnt afraid of anything. Not even amrican tonks
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>>35105060
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>>35105065
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>>35105069
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>>35105109
Last one.

If anyone's interested, I may post some other, older stuff
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>>35105114
Plz do
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>>35105119
Ok. BTW heres one pic of the original house. This and another one from a different angle where my only means to get measurements
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>>35105128

Thanks anon, you're very skilled!
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I feel like this thread has gone from the original topic to posting images of models. I'm fine with that, don't get me wrong, just making an observation.

>>35103909
Yeah, I had that thought too. Not quite the same, but I figured that a bunch of webcams hooked up to the internet and airgapped from everything else would be a great way to generate interest. They could be hidden down in the models too, so they don't interfere with play at all.

I also think another closed system of cameras going to the main building's lobby/lounge/whatever (maybe some kind of e-sports bar? lol) so more serious spectators who actually showed up can see the action.
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>>35105164
M20 and Jumbo Anon here. It always nagged me that I had to post my stuff at /toy because I feel that any kind of military scale modeling belongs to /k/ - my home board if you want to call it that.

I mean look at all the knowledge LOTS of military modelers collect before they even open the carton of the model. Units, weapons, all kinds of shit. Damn, before I started the M20 dio, I spent a month reading about carentan, 2nd armor and 101st AB.

/k/ and military scale modeling belong together - my opinion. Wayyyy more than /toy/
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>>35105211
I forgot /toy/ existed until today, so that goes to show how much I know about it.

I just really, really want to create a fun experience for people. I'm a writefag posting his stuff on /trash/ and I volunteer for a local town parade every year along with a local cookoff (but that's because it falls on the summoning day of my inner fat demon) so I guess I just like entertaining people without them actually focusing on me. I've been kicking around this idea for years and yeah, it's made me sad that I never had anyone to talk to about it.
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You know, if this becomes a thing, it'll be interesting to hear the stories that come out of it. On top of that, it'll be interesting how little stories are added to the field.

Like, a crashed model of a plane is added near the end of the runway from that time an experienced player crashed on takeoff. A plane that is consistently only half painted, as when it was rushed into the air it cleared the field. Tanks with quiet dents added as interesting kill stories are added to each. The one destroyer painted up shot to hell and back because the model just keeps going no matter what.

Honestly, pointing at these little things after years of running would be one of the most interesting things afterwards
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>>35105227
Yeah, got it. And I like the idea


Here, have some sniper project I did in between to bigger ones
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>>35105443
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>>35103536
Yeah space gets eaten up quickly, I store them In any spot I can find in my shop and house

>>35103554
http://www.youtube.com/user/oddball759mm
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>>35102107
The M4(90) was a real prototype
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>>35106065
Hey, >>35104869 >>35104499 and >>35105443 here

Question: During my research for the M20 and the Jumbo I've never seen WW2 US-vehicles that had any kind of camo paint job - unlike your two Wolverines. Did you see those jobs on historical pictures or are they ""phantasy""?


Tit-ass paint skillz btw
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>>35106235
>1/6th scale guy here

The US most certainly did have cammo during the war. In ETO in 1944 there was an order put out to paint over the OD Black Stripes. Brown Stripes were also common. In Italy There were bands of Yellow / tan.

There was also cases of White countershading done to the under hull / barrel sections. Although the wavy barrel was more common on fireflies or tanks with 17 pounder guns

Don't take my word for it, look here https://www.amazon.com/US-Armor-Camouflage-Markings-WWII/dp/0897474929

The PTO had an insane amount of awesome cammo patterns on US tank
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>>35106235
Not just late war but the US were playing around with camo at the beginning too
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>>35094775
>thinking hobbyist electronics prices don't scale up proportionally to a model's size

I don't get about paying this much for handmade autism, but I believe the cost is justified.
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>>35106462
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>>35105055
>>35105060
>>35105065
>>35105069
>>35105109
>>35105114
reminds me of that scene in A Bridge Too Far
>Taxi! Taxi!
>dakka dakka dakka
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>>35096532
H.h.have you made a Dora?
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>>35106235
tanks in Operation Cobra were mostly cammoe'd
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>>35106505
No, not yet. But a Customer of mine has one of those 1/35th scale kits and does want me to build one for him though... so Possibly one day

I did Scratch build the T28 Super Heavy tank meme machine in 1/6 though
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>>35104899
>>35104933
Also Not bad paint work on the Jumbo, I like your OD shade and shading
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>>35091594
All the ones I've seen look bad though. Surface is clearly plastic and it's painted to be pristine, which makes it look fake. Maybe it's just the ones I've seen though
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>flying my plane in lazy loops
>having fun with my wife's son
>some 35 year old manchild in grease-stained surplus camo shows up with a tiny A-10
>BBs are raining down onto the ground
>he shoots down my plane
>my wife's son is crying
>he leaves without picking up any of the BBs
>wife renegotiates custody to cut me out entirely
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>>35106988
>Surface is clearly plastic
But the armortek tank kits are all metal annon
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>>35106988
>>35107683
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>>35107600
>MFW 1/6th scale A10 kits are on the market
>MFW 6mm BBs mini BRRRRTTTT can be done in this scale
>MFW I would so do this if I did planes and wear stained surplus BDU pants while flying it
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>>35107683
>>35107700
Clearly I've not been looking at the right ones. These ones look great
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Would scale warfare require scale infrastructure?
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>>35105413
>Like, a crashed model of a plane is added near the end of the runway from that time an experienced player crashed on takeoff.
That kind of immersive experience would be amazing, it would make player presence that much more permanent and meaningful. Have a running tally of the progress of the war, chronicle the events of the rest of the conflict, and all of it directly or partially influenced by player activity. Maybe a mission to insert special forces behind enemy lines through the badlands of <play area> (I'm really thinking an abandoned mine or quarry would be ideal, especially if it's sort of post-apocalyptic in theme) has wider conflicts on the story?

I would be enthusiastically supportive of player-built missions, as long as it fit in line with the intended experience.

>>35105443
Hey, that's neat. I have to ask though, do you think it would be a good idea to include stuff like that in the play area at 1/10th scale? I'm not sure if it's too much detail or even if it's just prohibitively time consuming or expensive.

>>35109478
I desperately want this to be a thing, but I just can't figure it out without ruining the fun. Of course not actual tiny factories making tiny parts, but an in-game equivalent to further ground the story in player interaction. Even 1/10 scale isn't small enough to make it sensible, factories are miles and miles away from fronts in real-life so it makes little sense to have C&C style stuff unless the play area is absurdly large.

>buy most of a county's land out in a desert state
>demolish the houses
>demolish the buildings
>remove the roads
>replace with hand-crafted 1/10th models of everything just smashed down
>build a tiny city
>some tiny factories
>just so somebody can basically fly a drone and shoot what are essentially Estes model rockets at it
>just for the sake of pretend realism
If I could pull it off I'd do it, but I think I'd have moments where I'd sit and think long and hard about what I've done.
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