Preppers Thread

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>>34700737

>>34700737

I'm in college in Texas and i was wondering how you guys are approaching the question of water? Me, my brother, my mom, and my dad go through like 2-3 24 packs of water bottles every week so we consume a lot of water amongst ourselves and that's not even getting into the amount we need for showering. Should I try developing a well on my property? Should I buy water filters? Is buying a massive number of water packs the only way for me to prep for water shortages? Thanks.

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>>34700737
>not just offing yourself with one of your pistols once the major happening comes
Normie fuck off. This will sound edgy but anybody with a brain would know that trying to survive the fall of civilization would be a waste of time and life. Sure, you could fulfill your wetdreams but in the long run it will be tedious and shitty and not worth it.

>>34700885

This. I'd at least fuck around for a bit.

>>34700759
>need for showering
If SHTF and you need to conserve it, you'll be washing out of a bucket, not showering.

>Is buying a massive number of water packs the only way for me to prep for water shortages?
You've honestly never heard of rainwater tanks?

>>34700912
This. Imagine thinking offing yourself would be a good idea right at the start of the best happening of all time. Gotta see how long you can survive. We are living in a simulation anyway...

>>34700759
Factor for 1 gallon per person per day. That's just for drinking. Showering becomes a wipedown with a wet sponge.

You also want to become knowledgeable on improv solar water distilling. Once you get a handle on that, you can glean potable water from plant matter, offal, or sewage. That's desperation mode, though.

Learn how to strain, filter, and purify water from standing and running sources. Learn some basic water quality tests, put together a rudimentary test kit.

Plan on keeping a month worth of potable water on hand for each family member. Cases of half liter bottles works well. Just buy one more case than you use every time you buy water. Set up a rotation, using up the oldest first. A standard case of 24 bottles would equal roughly a 3 day supply for 1 person. One of those 40 bottle cases from Costco is about a 5 day supply for 1 person.

A 30 day stash isn't a long term solution, it just buys you time to ride out a short term shtf event or evaluate your options in a long term scenario.

>>34701444
>Factor for 1 gallon per person per day. That's just for drinking.
lolwut?

That's about twice as much as people need to drink.

>>34700759
As someone mentioned, rainwater tanks. I believe in TX we even get a tax break or something for collecting rainwater.

>>34701468
In Texas quite easily you need that especially if the power goes out dehydration is going to be one of the biggest killers especially if you're sick, if you're thirsty you're already dehydrated.

>>34701506
t. armchair physician

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>>34700737

1) Make a kit for normal emergencies: tornadoes, floods, earthquakes and similar ones that would make life hard for 2-4 weeks.

2) Add a gun.

3) Your doomsday kit is ready...

>>34701508
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You're right you don't need additional water in poor conditions while sick what do I know.

>>34701520
You don't need a gallon.

>>34700885
You sound like a jaded beta. You'll never know whether you'll survive or not if you don't try!

>>34701526
How much do you need then?

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>>34701468

If you do any physical work and it's hot, half a gallon is simply not enough.

>Factors that influence water needs

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/water/art-20044256?pg=2

>>34701537
If you simply drink a cup of water when you're thirsty or you feel you need it, you'll be fine, and it'll be a damn sight less than you seem to think.

Your body has evolved this shit over millions of years, it's got this shit down.

>>34701547
A whole gallon is still way too much.

>>34701561
t. armchair physician

>>34701561

>A whole gallon is still way too much.

No, it's not too much if the conditions require it.

>>34700759
>We go through 2-3 24 packs of water bottles every week or so
>Buying bottled water
Why do people do this?
Y'all know it isn't any cleaner, right? And if you're that fucking paranoid about it, just buy a jug with one of those water filters in it.

>>34701569
no,

t. someone who trusts his body more than /k/ fuddlore

>>34701571
>if the conditions require it.
We're talking generally. If SHTF, what do you think you'll be doing, digging trenches for eight hours a day or something?

>>34701581
>mayo clinic is /k/ fuddlore

Odd what source do you draw your information from.

>>34700885
>Implying battling through the apocalypse wouldn't be 100x more meaningful and satisfying than modern life.

>>34701590
...Did you even read your own source?

It basically says the same thing I've been saying.

>>34701581

Hot weather + diarrhea is enough, add physical activity and half a gallon is not enough.

Also, if in your imaginary universe nobody does anything but sit and wait, they might as well have that extra water because is ever going to sweat to move it or any other things, huh?

>>34701593
So, we're now digging trenches in the desert heat while shitting our pants? Is that what the average SHTF scenario looks like to you?

A day of collecting firewood, boiling water, walking around setting and checking traps, in that scenario, half a gallon of water is fine. Or any variation of a scenario that basically involves meandering and picking things up off the ground.

>>34701592
You haven't said anything just said that people are drinking too much water.

>>34701608
I said about half a gallon is fine in my original post. >>34701468

I also said that even while doing stuff, a gallon is way too much. >>34701561

I've also indicated that digging trenches in the desert is probably unlikely. >>34701602

From your source:
>Generally, if you drink enough fluid so that you rarely feel thirsty and your urine is colorless or light yellow — and measures about 6.3 cups (1.5 liters) or more a day if you were to keep track — your fluid intake is probably adequate.

Also, this matches up pretty well:
>An extra 1.5 to 2.5 cups (400 to 600 milliliters) of water should suffice for short bouts of exercise, but intense exercise lasting more than an hour (for example, running a marathon) requires more fluid intake.
to what I said here >>34701561
>If you simply drink a cup of water when you're thirsty or you feel you need it, you'll be fine,

So unless you're planning on running a post-apocalyptic marathon, which I guess is possible if you're planning on zombies but otherwise unlikely, yeah about half a gallon is fine.

>>34700737

>2017
>not having an own well on your property

Can rice and pasta really go bad?

>>34700737
How important are gas masks to the average prepper?

And do preppers use camouflage uniforms or do they just use standard clothing?

>>34702131
Technically yes, probably no. But mice and bugs can get into it.

The problem with mice is they shit where they eat, so you'll end up with a half eaten, poop-riddled packet of pasta.

Bugs aren't such a big deal, but I'd be a bit wary of eating stuff that has mice shit in it. Plus, at least in my experience, when you're boiling it, the bugs will rise to the top of the water and you can skim them off.

>>34702236
Was just thinking about it because they all have a best before date, but I dont see how they could go bad. Mice etc of course, but I store them in their original package inside of some ait tight containers on a pallet so its not on the ground.

>>34702247
'Best before' = freshest before, but generally okay after.
'Use by' = eat by, potentially dangerous or just plain icky after.

>>34702170
Not very.

It would be okay for things like mold spores, smoke, and tear gas. But for anything biological like a virus youll need a clean room

>>34701577
Probably because of taste. The difference between my tap and deer park is night and day

>>34702170
And preppers arent some cheerleading squad with our cutesy little matching outfits..wear what you want when the situation calls for it.

Trying not to stick out? Camo should be fine. Many people prefer regular cloths in earth tones so we dont feel autistic. Just do what you want and dress for the climate.

>>34702280
>>34701577
This. We have very hard water where i live, and the tap water tastes awful here. I drink bottled exclusively.

>>34700759
My neibour I'm on good terms with has a hand pump, an I have a natural stream that flows almost the whole year not far from my house.

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How many mountain house pouches can you fit in a 5 gallon bucket? Will it be better to fill the whole thing with pouches, or stack up two #10 cans of pilot crackers and fill the sides with pouches?

>>34701468
>t. office dwelling yuppie

>>34702358

>shtf implies you're going to be doing sprints all day

>>34700885
>he doesn't want to play fallout.
At least leave your door open so I can loot your faggy corpse.

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>>34702372
>shtf implies you'll be sitting inside in the ac all day

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>>34702666
>he can't survive a few days without AC
Maybe you should keep one of >pic related in your purse.

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>>34700737
I guess this is the place to share this.
So every time I post pic related someone says "wasn't that proven to be bullshit?" and I say "no", because it hasn't.
Well, I decided to do a little digging and I found out that it is indeed real.
The author's name is Selco and he runs a "SHTF school".
https://shtfschool.com/

Pretty insane. But yea, it's real.

>>34701577
I hate that shit, bottled water is such a scam for idiots that don't know any better. Like you said if you're really that paranoid about your tap water buy a water filter and just refill your own reusable bottle. What a waste of money and plastic, I can't believe the people that stock up those 24 packs and just burn through them sitting around the house.

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>>34700759
Where are you? Are you on the Edwards Aquifer? Surface Water? Rain only? More info please. A lot of Texas is arid. And there are times when most of Texas gets terrible conditions. That's why they devoted so much effort to artificial lakes in the 50s. You need to make sure you have some form of long term supply.

Related to image >> Eleven percent of the U.S. and 81 percent of Texas were in the worst category (D4, 'Exceptional' Drought). in 2011

>>34702131
Yes, but it is more likely something will eat it, like worms or mice.

If you freeze it for 72 hours to kill any larva that may have made it into the packaging (not likely with most brands, but always possible).
Then buy 6 gallon mylar bags with oxygen absorbers and a 5 gallon bucket.
Put 25lbs of rice in the mylar bag with the oxygen absorber and use a iron to heat the mylar bag so that it seals.
Put the bag in the 5 gallon bucket (feel free to do this before you heat/seal the bag).
Close the bucket.
Do the same for beans.


You now have about three months of food that will literally never go bad.

>>34702170
If you live near, or ever plan on going near, tall buildings it is very important.
The debris from a collapsed building is extremely hazardous.
Thousands of people have died due to breathing the air in New York on 9/11 that were not in the buildings.

Same for fire.

>>34700759
I live in central MD so I'm never more than 30 minutes from a water source.
You should consider storing water on your property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju3heLQOx5I

>>34701468
No it's not.
Anyone who is physically active at all, and you will be physically active if SHTF, needs 1 gallon of water per day.

>>34702129
Most wells are powered by the grid.
That makes them less reliable than tap water.
Still a good idea to get a generator either way though.

>>34702350
I don't know, but many Mt House will come in their own buckets.

>>34700759
It sounds like you and your family are already stupid enough to drink bottled water at home, so I think stupidity should be your biggest survival concern, rather than water. Chances are, you'd get yourself killed somehow before you die of dehydration.

>>34701581
>words from some person who sits on his ass all day in air conditioning.

SHTF would be depressing. Namely because people are crazy. The ones who would survive longest would be the worst. I have a family and prep for short term disasters only. Anything serious and only the worst of you would survive.

>>34700737

>>1054601
>>1065345

>>34703086
9 years and I still can't get it right.

>>>1065345
>>>1054601

>>34703099
lol
There are two relevant threads on /out/ right now.
Go lurk.

>>34700885
Wtf do you mean shitty, tedious and not worth it? Isn't that what modern society is? Go to work, pay bills, sit at home or go out and spend shekels and repeat. A change in pace wouldn't be bad but hey if you want to be a little depressed fag then fine kill yourself and never know how it could play out

>>34702787
thanks for the tips

>>34703107
>>/out/1054601
>>/out/1065345

>>34703151
Fuck I'm retarded.

>>34703145
Why would I think it enjoyable to swap my comfy life, the safety of my family, large disposable income and security of government for lawlessness and chaos? If you can't make a decent life for yourself in today's society, what makes you think you would do any better on hard mode?

>>34702719
>tap water
enjoy your (((fluoride)))

>>34703180
Bottled water is literally tap water, just sold in bottles.

>>34702709
read that before, good info for true civil unrest/war situations

>>34700885
I'm sticking around for the rape. Either mine or others.

>>34703820
it's filtered and they add minerals for taste. stop talking out of your ass.

>>34702350
Sexy daughter.

>>34702709
>But yea, it's real.
Good to know

>>34703173
Wanna know how I know you're a democrat?

>>34701602
If you have a gallon and only need half then you can stretch it twice as far. If you have half and need one then you're fucked. Jesus people.

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>>34700737
If you live in an environment that can support aloe plants, I highly recommend it. I use it for burns and cuts and stuff. It's pretty low maintenance too. Pic is one of mine that gets a lot of use.

>>34701581
>my body is one way so all bodies are this way
Fucking retard.
>>34700885
If you're so keen on ending yourself, do it right away.

>>34703151
>>>/out/1054601
>>>/out/1065345

>>34705337
Thanks friendo.

What would be a good set of disaster meals to get?
MREs or some of the other stuff that pops up in related on Amazon?

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Wich place would be safer in a shtf scenario considering climate, population, fauna, etc.
-Las Vegas
-Colorado
-North Arizona
Have some info on how to grow tons of potatoes

>>34705770
Mountain house is GOAT, lasts 20 years, tastes okay and it only needs boiling water

>>34704496
Wanna know how I know you are not married with kids?

>>34700759
Buy a water filter and chlorine water purification tablets. Youll get gardia if you use the other water tablets senpai.

>>34702763
As a Floridian I can tell you that this map is horseshit for anyplace south of Tampa. We are considered in "drought conditions" whenever we aren't getting 4 ft of rain.

>>34701577
i rotate 7 gallon water cans i fill from a spring, water tastes bad out of the tap and there are always boil water advisories i'm never advised about.

>>34705770
Amazon usually has Mountain House "Just In Case" buckets on sale a couple of times a year. They sometimes have the #10 cans on sale as well. We buy the Just In Case buckets and rotate them for camping trips and buy a few #10 cans a month for disaster prep.

Augason Farms has a lot of things in #10 cans that Mountain House doesn't such as vegetables, so we get those as well for single ingredient items like potatoes or peas, etc.

Also Red Feather canned butter and Bega cheese.

>>34701226

Yeah, with all the shit that would be happening in the weeks and months to come, probably be dead in half a yr.

>Inside a simulation
gotta love those MMOs.

>>34702404
This

Would things like rubbing alcohol be useful during a SHTF situation? I mean that's just extra ounces right?

>>34707906

A couple alcohol wipes would be handy in a medkit, but if you're on the move it isn't really worth having a bottle of rubbing alcohol. I'd have a bottle of Everclear if you really want something like that. Works the same and has more trade value.

>>34702131
extreme humidity or pests can ruin it.

>>34703066
Or the people with communities and useful skills survive.

Loners and raiders will get fucked.

>>34708150

The ever clear has to be around 75% proof. If you get any thing higher than thay, it dries way to fast and can't kill shit. So so either water down the everceverclear, or stay away from it. Google it if you dont believe me.

>>34705867
Colorado, because you actually get rain and shitloads of wildlife. Vegas is desert, North AZ is better but still dry.

>>34707906
Why are you so sure you'd be leaving your home and why are you so sure you'd be on foot?

You should plan to stay in place because that's where your supplies are and roughing it won;t get you far.
Bugging out on foot is the last resort.

>>34708356
Plus you should have friendly neighbors who also have guns and who also have victory gardens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31hB5d__UT4

>>34700885
>but in the long run it will be tedious and shitty and not worth it.
So just like life?

>>34701515
Add more than one gun, imo.

>>34701515
what fucking doomsday lasts only 2-4 weeks?

>>34700759

I know where there is a natural spring with clean water.

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Don't forget toilet paper, folks. Unless you like wiping your ass with your left hand like an Arab and using your filthy fucking hand to handle your children and your tools and prepare food with, like an Arab. Always have one family sized pack of TP for your bunghole in the closet that you never use.

>>34701577
Depends on the area. When I visit family in Florida their area doesn't have tap water and the well water is full of sulfur. It's pretty crummy. But my tap in NY tastes fine, drink that shit 24/7

>>34703180
thanks I will

>>34700759
>Me, my brother, my mom, and my dad go through like 2-3 24 packs of water bottles every week
>buying bottled water
Are you a master troll or the biggest fucking retard in the world? If the former, well played. If the latter, kill yourself.

>>34703016
lol'd. Truest post I've ever read on 4chan (and I'm an oldfag).
>>34705867
Colorado

>>34700759
Dude you need a well that you can hand pump from in case of power outage

>>34701468
Okay, now factor for an additional 10% for all of the extra exertion that creeps into your daily routine because power is down. Then add another 10% for stress and the fact that you're sleeping maybe 6 hours per day, if you're lucky.

Now factor for getting sick. Cold, flu, food poisoning, whatever. Or even a bad sunburn, or poison oak, or even allergies.

Shtf doesn't happen when conditions are ideal. If you prep that way, you become a statistic.

>>34701520
Damn, anon. You got TOLD. Why do you set yourself up for such humiliation?

>Event occurs
>Engage in agriculture
>My shit gets raided
>Kill the raiders
>Grind up the bodies to keep the dogs fed

>>34701581
>digging trenches for eight hours a day or something?

Not the anon you're responding to. I work maintenance, on a warm day I'll go through 3 quarts in 8 hours. Not digging ditches or pulling green chain, but doing stuff like climbing ladders or painting walls. A warm day around here is about 80 degrees.

RN, BSN here

Man, you guys are fucked. Most of you don't even understand basic hydration. You're dead after a week or two of the grocery stores being closed.

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>>34700756

>>34704179
fair enough

>>34702709
>The author's name is Selco and he runs a "SHTF school".

You just figuring this out? This was making the rounds in 2013, when I first found /k/. If you did any more digging you would have found all of the threads on Zombie Squad and some of the other prepper forums that raged about the provenance of Selco for months on end. Keep in mind, he's a salesman with a product to sell. Telling a compelling story is part of his pitch. Some anon dug up a link to the mission logs for Operation Provide Promise, showing that it was very unlikely that US supply drops were happening when and where Selco claimed. The consensus was, he fused stories from 3 or 4 people into a composite and claimed it for his own.

What are the most reliable rifles and fire arms for a SHTF situation?

inb4 muh ak47

This has been one of the best prepper threads have seen in years here. Actually learned things.
>>34711483
>inb4 muh ak47
Asks a legit question then tells everyone not to give the best legit answer.
Stay classy /k/.

>>34711245
If you think he read threads on ZombieSquad forums and came up with that you're an idiot.
Though ZombieSquad used to be the best place on the web for preppers until it was taken over by leftist cunts. Eight or ten years ago it was great.

>>34711483

AR-15 is unanimously considered the gold standard of SHTF rifles (in the United States).

Make sure to fill your bathtub with water as an emergency source before the water supply dies

>>34701561
how much water would a person use while freaking the fuck out, having the shits from poor hygiene, allergies kicking up and they cant breathe through their nose and dry out, have to walk 10 miles with a load?

more than a gallon, closer to 2 1/2

>>34702280
>>34702298
the filters clean that shit out, even cheap ones like brita charcoal packs.

>>34712344
For good reason. Either one works, I've got an Arsenal SAM7R that's loaded with soft points and a Daniel Defense M4V1 that's loaded with 75gr Hornady TAP. Both rifles have been in the field and run phenomenally, but the AR gets my vote for a primary weapon system. The AKs are put back in reserve as spares.

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What about helmets? Do you think a helmet is something one should consider adding to their bug out inventory?

I'm not talking necessarily full on ballistic military grade kevlar swat shit, but like something primarily for bump protection i.e. protection from falling objects, shit thrown at you with malicious intent, blunt objects swing at ones head.

Do you think something like a skate helmet or hockey helmet with ear protection is a good idea? or does it say I'm looking for a fight. Attack me.

>>34712439
I bought a helmet because I just joined a group that will occasionally participate in rallies or demonstrations that are attended by violent marxists, a baseball helmet to be specific. If you're going to be going TOWARDS a fight, it's necessary. But if the world ends you're probably going to be hiding or running away (bugging in/out).

>>34712439
If you're going to primarily lay low, I could see a bump helmet like Ops Core, MTek or Protec be useful, particularly if you're going to mount NODs on it. Much more comfortable than a skullcrusher. Other than that, I'd just wear a boonie during the day and have the helmet strapped to the pack or beside the rifle at night.

>>34712439
Eh I just go with boonie in the summer, german army winter cap in the winter. Maybe ushanka if it's like below 15 and there's wind.

>>34702918
Not all wells, at least in rural areas. I have a 1500ft deep well that is free flowing and my neighbor a quarter mile away has a pair of wells that flow freely. However our 80ft well for watering plants needs an electric pump and the 100 year old open pit well has a hand pump attached to it.
Your best bet in a SHTF situation is to either have a free flowing well beforehand or one that you can use a standard hand pump on. Remember to test your water once in a while so you don't use a shallow well filled with all natural weird shit.

>>34700885
Some of our lives suck so hard a nuclear apocalypse would be a welcome change

>>34700885
we need to meme this in reality. will make survival much easier in the happening with less retards.
>>34701148
look up dust and sand baths and other cleaning methods that use little or no water.
>>34701515
>tornado kit
EOD suit with boat anchor on legs
>floods
LIfe jacket with very long chain boat anchor attachment
>earthquake
take shelter under the boat anchor
>>34704731
This guy is on to something. Aloe will be worth its weight in gold in SHTF.

>>34712877
Aloe is a great plant to have growing no matter what. I have a decent garden, and I think my aloe is the plant I get the most use out of. I also grow peppers, pineapples, strawberries( they did not produce much this year, but next year I am hopeful). I also have 2 mango trees in my backyard that produce thousands of mangos each.

>>34713004
>I also have 2 mango trees in my backyard
I had a place with a shitload of fruit trees in the back. I lived off of smoothies from january till april every year.

the banana tree was my nigga though. the ones in the store taste like dirt compared to real, ripened on the tree bananas.

>>34713004
What type of climate do you live in? I'd like to grow aloe, but I feel like it gets too cold in the winter here in North Texas

>>34713045
I live on the southeast coast of Florida. Basically anything I plant grows phenomenally. Except potatoes

>>34713004
I have so much fruit I can't even give it all away

>>34713076
did you try growing them in a potato box, or the tires, and not in the ground?

>>34713136
No I didn't try that. I know what your talking about, but after talking to some guys down here, I'm just going to give up on potatoes. Which sucks because they are my favorite thing that grows

>>34713193
the box is perfect for florida though. you will have shitloads of them with one.

>>34713634
What makes the box different from growing in the ground? I only vaguely remember the potato box infographic

>>34713660
it drains. florida stays damp as fuck most of the time, and the tatties rot. the box is lifted up above the ground, lets it drain, plus you get to shift the plants around to have a constant stream of potatoes at whatever size you want them.

>>34713679
Cool. Do you have the infographic?

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>>34713742

>>34713765
Thanks. I count you among my closest friends

>>34712337
What is the best forum for preppers at the moment anyway?

Pretty easy to figure out what shooting forums have a high signal:noise ratio, but I get on readiness/prepping/survival boards and I can't shake the feeling that everyone is deluding themselves and knows fuckall.

Including ZS (was a poster there for a long time and gave up).

>>34713815
glad to help a fellow member of the florida masterrace out.

this also works great if you can get some well composted cowshit, the kind that looks like soft black dirt, and composed fishguts to grow it in. I had a connect once that would grow shittons of dope out in the middle of nowhere, that would have dumptruck loads of blackdirt from compost, that he couldnt even use. i paid for the fuel, and we basically added 6 inches of dirt to my fruit trees in the back yard, and my neighbors yard. him and his wife were russkies and old, they made us Kompot with their fruit from the yard the next year.

>>34700885
>trying to survive the fall of civilization would be a waste of time and life
How about you stop wasting everyone's time right now and kill yourself?

>>34700737
How do I make /k/ friends rl after the apocalypse? I imagine you niggers would shoot first ask questions later, we need a signal

>>34713979
You don't make freinds after the apocalypse. You make them before apocalypse.

Which is actually pretty fucking essential for survival. All those wannabe lone wolfs are going to die pretty quickly. No matter how many fancy toys and you buy, being alone is a crippling disadvantage.

>>34714040
lets see these edgelord lone wolf types dig out an appendix, or cut out a bad tooth, or set a broken arm on themselves.

>>34712337
>If you think he read threads on ZombieSquad forums and came up with that you're an idiot.

Re-read my post. I was passing along what I'd picked up elsewhere. Granted, in the interest of brevity I was a little more cryptic than I should have been.

To amplify on my earlier post: Selco is most likely a genuine Bosnian. He probably did see some shit in Bosnia. The general opinion that I saw was that he had combined his experiences with the experiences of other Bosnians to make a composite that he claimed as his own. He didn't browse forums and make it up, he probably listened to stories in a refugee camp.

Significant effort has gone into debunking his claims. Besides the whole issue with the USAF supply drops, it was pointed out that parts of his story play a little too conveniently into the confirmation bias of the markets where it was originally circulated. This was passed of as being the result of being translated (iirc) into Russian, then French, then English.

It was interesting when I first read it, I lost interest after I saw how much autism the guy stirs up. There's no middle of the road- he's either the Antichrist or he's the savior of modern civilization, depending on who you talk to.

>>34711110
you wouldn't have to grind them.

Doggos eat bones just fine.

>>34711483
Any modern rifle will be good enough. Just use a common caliber so you can trade ammo. Semi-auto AR-15 or AR-10 is probably the best choice for USA.

>>34714234
>, or set a broken arm on themselves.
More doable than you think. Setup the splint and then hook your wrist on something and pull for traction then secure the splint.

Personally I've set my own boxer fractures (metacarprals/bones in your palm).

>>34701581
Not sure where the fuck you live, mate, but here in Southern British Columbia it's 40C in the summer time. Just walking a couple of kilometers in jeans and a t-shirt is enough to make your jeans damp from sweating. It's also humid as fuck here, so even sitting in the shade only offers a small comfort to otherwise blistering sunshine. Add a 40lb ruck and a rifle to that, you're going to be sweating your dick off. I used to be buggy bitch at a grocery store, and I'd go through a half gallon in a 6 hour shift and another half a gallon for the rest of the day.

What do you plan on doing. Sitting on a 12in dragon dildo in a climate controlled bunker, eating fucking cheetos all day?

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>>34709802
I remeber the day in class where we were taught never shake with your left hand and dont let your feet hang out of the helicopter.

Towel heads ready hate us i never saw much point in it

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>>34712848
Patroling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

>>34709228
If it's been a month since the event and you don't have the basics of life continuity set up you're already dead imo

>>34714780
Why are you hiking away from your stored water?
Why are you constantly hiking all day for presumably months on end?
Why are you hiking in the middle of the day, instead of a more reasonable time?

So many questions...

>>34702350
oh an MP5K
It's a cool thing to have

>>34715914
Because at people have bought into the bugging out meme and don't realize you need a retreat to bug out to with prestocked supplies

So far of my prepping has just been surviving anykind of natural disaster with a survival kit rather than bug out bag. I keep it in my car just in case I'm in some remote area and my car breaks down and I'm shit out of luck. I also keep an SMLE and 50 rounds of ammo in my trunk just in case I might need it.

>>34717005
You'd be better off with a pump gun.

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>>34700885
>not using the fall of civilization to build a new civilization out of the ashes, one based on the worship of the one true entity ever worth worshiping
Fuckin' heretic pieces of shit. It's bad enough this board's been overrun with delusional frogposting Kek faggots, now we have to deal with millenials who don't want to take advantage of a supposed apocalypse to further the good word of Nex Alea?
Goddamn, what has this fucking board come to?

>>34701444
You Can shower with minimal water via the following:
Bucket, shower curtain going into said bucket, battery/usb powered shower pump shooting into the bucket, coffee filters/filters over the water pump, inline water filter right before the shower head.
Bonus for small water heater added to bucket(12 volt thing works, using half a barrel above a small flame works as well)

>>34701602
that gallon of water a day ISN'T just for drinking,
that water is also for cleaning yourself and your food/clothes/hands/etc, processing your shit/piss, and having extra for when you are sick or expiring more during intense heat/work.

A small 4'5" man will drink less than a 7'8" 200lbs overweight man in the desert sun hiking with a 70lb bag. The gallon is just a average amount, because when disaster hits most people just remember the easy and fast to quote stuff.

>>34700885
Everyone who glamorizes the end of the world needs to read the book "The Road". It's all fun and games until there's shit left and niggers roam the world.

>>34720174
Fuck electricity, use a handpump. Save your resources by not wasting them on luxury.

Also, does nobody know how to wash yourself with some water, a bar of soap and a fucking cloth?

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>>34721701
>Fuck electricity, use a handpump. Save your resources by not wasting them on luxury.

>save your rescources by wasting calories

>>34723692
Eating corn and moving your ass is a hell of a lot more efficient than distilling it and burning it in a generator.

>>34700885
>anybody but those with a brain would know that trying to survive the fall of civilization would be a waste of time and life

Fixed it for ya.

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>>34723709
>the only viablesource of electricity is burning corn in a generator
Are you going to put a handpump on your optic as well?

>>34723732
Obviously, if you have a solar panel that's producing power regardless, you should use it. You're not conserving anything if you don't.

>>34703173
Because it'd give me a chance to go for something different, even if it is shit. In this case it's more or less forced. Either way what do I got to lose if it's already lost, other than my life that is. But I ain't a complete beta so you probably wouldn't understand anything beyond shitposting on 4chan.

>>34720667
I'm pretty sure even after a game of nuclear football the world wouldn't be a crisped up hellhole like in The Road. Or not for long at least.

>>34720076
Glory be to the Murder Cube

>>34723814
Whilst you're waiting for your apocalypse....I'll have a caramel latte to go please.

>>34702763
>2011
>california
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>>34723814
>Because my life is so shit, it couldn't possibly get any worse if the world ended.

Fixed that for ya

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>>34726653

not him but that hits way too close to home for my liking

>tfw willing to brave hazardous apocalyptic conditions so you can get a 2nd chance at life

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>>34723862
Praise be.

>>34701468
I drink like 1.5 a day when I am active
A little under a gallon when I am in a nice air conditioned room when I'm on 4chan

>>34701581
ok retard