/akg/ AK General

>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

Just ordered a bake, are they really all they're cracked up to be?

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>>34552039
Kind of.
They are rather aesthetic.
>Credit to Chimps for the pic; from the long long ago.

>>34552070
>Ironwood laminate furniture
Enjoy de-lamination.

>>34552077
>Chimps
>Having Ironwood
LaughingSluts.png

>>34552082
Uh... Look at the pistol grip and lack of pins in the handguard and stock...

>>34552085
I'll wait for Chimps to chime in then.
Also why do you think Ironwood will de-laminate?
Is there an issue with their lamination?
Post proofs pls.

>>34552105
>Also why do you think Ironwood will de-laminate?
>Is there an issue with their lamination?
The issue isn't specifically with Ironwood designs, it's that any laminate furniture, if not well reinforced, will delaminate with extensive abuse and use without those pin that you see in surplus laminate AK furniture.

>>34552164
Hmm.
Again, any proof of this.
Lamination processes and techniques have come a long way since the 50s and 70s, respectively.
And even then they weren't necessarily for fighting "de-lamination" as much as they were for abuse, but I guess it could be seen as the same thing.
I'm genuinely curious now.

>>34552189
I'm not going to spoon feed you

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>>34552207
So you have nothing then.
This isn't /arg/ fag, you need to show your work, not
>hurr i'm not gonna spoonfeed you
bullshit.
And it better be specific to AK furniture.

>>34552039
yes

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Wakey wakey lil akg

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>>34552471
You had better made coffee since you woke me.
>And it better be AK coffee

Coffee, instant is an acceptable alternative.

>>34552526
>Black Rifle Coffee Company
>muh vets
>muh muh
>muh pseudo macho bullshit
>muh bimbo women
>muh war stories
kys

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Swapped the default for this other muzzle break on my new M92 PAP. I dont have the $ for the stamp on a stock just yet so I think I might replace the handguard with one I could more easily affix a foreward grip on.

>>34552612
>I might replace the handguard with one I could more easily affix a foreward grip on.
Enjoy getting your doggo shot

>>34552575
>That much autism
Take your own advice

Put an AK on layaway the other day, made sure it wasn't IO

What's a good muzzle break for it?

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>>34552526
Coffee is a meme

>>34552753
>that gas bloc
Huh

>>34552526
>Garbage coffee
>better be muh SHEEPDAWG AYY KAYY
you'll just drink anything bearded men sell won't you?

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>>34552753
>>34552791
>taking a meme about a meme coffee this seriously
Man, do you guys need to get laid.

>>34552526
>>34552791
Their Murdered Out coffee is actually pretty good. I received a bag as a gift, and thoroughly enjoyed it.

>>34552070
He's come a long way, that rifle is disturbing

Neat
https://youtu.be/m0TVxh_5F8A

>>34552953
I do not envy their lack of earpro

>>34553050
WEAK WHITE PIGGU AMERICAN AND NEGRO DOGS NO NEED FOR EAR PROTECTION

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Who /gonna shoot/ today

Not sure if I want to drive out innamountains to shoot long guns or just go to a local place for only pistols

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>>34553060

>tfw seller didn't mail 104fr yesterday

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>>34553066
Probably going to go bust some rocks or whatever looks fun in the back yard before I get busy today.

>tfw seller didn't mail 104fr yesterday
I'm crying but I got it! Feels good after all the whining I've done on here for the last month.

why is mishaco so comfy to watch?

>>34553066
>Local place only allows pistols
Umm... why? That's stupid.

>>34553117
probably because it reminds you of better times when you used to have bros like him

>>34552082
>>34552077
It's ironwood

I did a lot of things wrong with that AK, it was my first

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>>34553126

>>34553096
I wish I could shoot in my yard

>>34553121
One local place is only like 10 minutes away and in the middle of farmland, and they only allow pistols now because retards shooting rifles would shoot over the berm all the time into neighboring properties and the owners got sick of that so they made it so you've got to be a member to shoot rifles, which I am not so only pistols and 25 yard rimfire range there for the public

Another local range about 40 minutes away only allows brass ammo and the only rifle calibers they allow is 5.56, .30 Carbine, and brass 7.62x39 because they also run a reloading facility to remanufacture ammo and sell it and those are the only rifle calibers they reload. It's not really worth going here to shoot because I can just drive an extra 30 minutes and shoot out in the mountains

tl:dr retards, different kinds of retards but retards nonetheless

>>34552953
2 AKs doing the job of 1 LMG, head constantly exposed, constant reloading.

>>34553139
We're (hopefully) all adults here, most of us can probably relate.
I have 3 different groups of lost contacts over the years from around the country that make me practically want to cry if I think about it too much. Phone and internet don't cut it for keeping in touch.

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>took normie friend shooting
>fixed his stance and grip
>helped him be able to spot fudds
>even changed his mind on suppressors
Goddamn it feels good

>>34553426
Obviously because Sig is rusty shit and HK is true quality

>>34553426
What did he mean?

>>34553458
>>34553450
>why aren't German export laws a problem for a company that doesn't make guns in Germany?

>>34553248
>that make me practically want to cry if I think about it too much

I keep in contact with two friends from high school that I went to college with, one was my roommate for a year. One of them still lives in state and we hang out every time he's in town. Everyone else I don't really bother with since millennials find it far too difficult to keep in touch with people who got off of zuckerberg's magical ride after high school.

>>34553426
Exetershit kek

>>34553489
kek, don't foget

>55X series pistols being imported are $3k+

>>34553426
Because Exetershit

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Found a pic of the average AK user

>>34553500
What a cutie
>>34553496
Fuuu wanna shoot trash with muh 551 in a bad way

>>34553066
AKM and AKS-74? Possibly AKS-74M?

>>34553496
It would be more palatable if they were still using the stamped steel lowers. I don't dislike the aluminum lowers but they're probably much cheaper to make.

>>34553531
SLR104fr and Type 56

>>34553570
Ah, 104, I assume fr is referring to the skeletal stock instead of the polymer one that usually comes on the AK104? As for Type 56, close enough, it's an AKM variant. Where's the bayonet though? I thought Type 56s came with a bayonet fixed to the barrel a la the SKS/other Type 56.

>>34553570
>>34553596
Waaaaait... AK-104 is the short-barreled variant of the AK-103 which is 7.62x39, isn't it? That looks like a 5.45 mag though!

>>34553596
>>34553605
There's no way anybody is this retarded right?

>>34553605
>>34553596
Nigga wtf

Also btw anon, I put another however many mags through my FN today, zero problems with the Klesch. You still got yours?

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>>34553596
The SLR104 is the model, fr designates a folding stock (f) and side rail (r). They're much more common with the polymer sidefolder, but that one is a factory triangle stock. I've got both stocks for it though. The Type 56 is less of a true AKM variant and more of a stamped AK47. Not all have the spike bayonet, this one just has normal bayonet lugs

>>34553605
The Bulgarian SLR series' number designations are unrelated to the Russian 100 series rifles

Hey guys I have a AMD 65 parts kit, I want to have someone build it for me, anyone out there good at builds and want to help out plz, I don't have any of the tools and idk why I bought it, guess I didn't know what I was getting into and thought I could just take it to a gunsmith well I took it to one and they can't do it.

>>34553762
Thanks for actually explaining it to me instead of just calling me retarded.

>>34553960
>thanks for spoon-feeding me instead of making fun of me for not spending 5 minutes on google
FTFY

>>34553985
So where did the bad man touch you to make you think you should feel shame for being wrong and that it's bad to ask questions rather than simply looking it up on the internet? Anti-social fuck.

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>>34553960
np retard :^^^^^)

>>34554006
Let me get this straight, you have a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips which you can access whenever you want, but you opt out of that and prefer to ask anonymous posters on a Chinese finger-trap board rather than finding out for yourself.

Lazy, gullible fuck

>>34552007
How are the Arsenal SLR 106's? Only downside I'm seeing are the expensive proprietary mags.

>>34553786
Lee Armory, Rifle Dynamics and others. There's even one in my local area that build AKs. Just gotta do some research.

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A gun shop near me wants $1800 for this Polytech, is it worth that?

1/7

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>>34554166
2/7

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>>34554175
3/7

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>>34554180
4/7

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My barrel got here !
Time for another vodka drunk ak build.
This time with an actual press.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-CnWwbeetE

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>>34554191
5/7

>>34554166
Offer $1600 but $1800 is in the ball park for a Poly Spiker. Any extras or box?

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>>34554199
6/7

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>>34554205
7/7

>>34554142

Thanks, anon. That will help me get started.

>>34554204
Just the gun and 3 mags, he said their was pitting but the bore looks clear to me in the picture, I should probbaly check it out in person, its about three hours away from me

What are the odds of my buddy finding a good buy on a Russian AK74 parts kit?
He's got a fetish for authenticity.

>>34554319
Rguns, 1988 kit. Buy now or forever regret it

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>>34553066
just got back from a match. slowly improving but i'm starting to see a lot of flaws in my form and it's disconcerting. no new footage this time since i was alone

on the first stage someone put the paint cans downrange and during my string some spalling cut one of them open and KB'd it

>>34554361
I don't remember if I've asked you this before but when and where did you get your 87 kit and how much did you pay for it? Do you know if there are any later than 88 74 kits in the country?

>>34554458
The 87 kits came mixed in with the 88 kits. Some of the 87 marked trunnion kits actually were made in 1988 and just used leftover forgings from the very end of 1987. Depending on the serial number you can verify if it was actually made in 87.

Almost all the 87 kits were taken from the rest and sold by a gunbroker seller who went by drpepper2. He denied affiliation with Rguns but he was selling from Illinois and it was obvious he was working with Rguns to get the better values on some of the more unique kits that got mixed in. I bought mine on auction for I think $750. I figured if I ever fulfilled my dream of having one fixed and one folder, it would be way more interesting to have them from different years.

What really sucks is that all the non-serialized parts are just randos. Only the serialized parts are "guaranteed" to have belonged together, and even then there's a chance that it's from a different rifle with the same last three digits on the serial number.

To my knowledge no 89 kits were mixed in, and no real (non-deact) kits exist any later than the 88's from Russia.

Also interesting: a very small number of Tula AKSU kits from 1985 were mixed in with the 86 kits. Now that's a rare bird.

>>34554509
>I figured if I ever fulfilled my dream of having one fixed and one folder

You see, I have this dream. I've got my folder, but I don't want to spend $620 for the kit, wait up to 2 years for a single receiver, have to buy a Bulgy barrel and then spend $700+ to get it built correctly, which could take months.

I want Arsenal of Bulgaria to just start making slr-105s again so I can worry about where I'm going to buy the 50 or so mags I need to feel safe with a 5.45 rifle before I start seriously buying the ammo.

>>34554509
Rguns still has 87 kits

>>34554074
Go outside.

>>34554551
I just don't want Rguns to run out and then the kits go to $1000 overnight

>>34554577
Like, that you can call in and buy? Because I don't think they've ever had 87 kits listed on their website

>>34554509
Is yours an actual 87 kit or one of the leftover forgings? $750 isn't bad at all for that, and I get what you're saying about different years for fixed and folding

That's kind of why I was asking about later than 88, it'd be cool to find an 89 and either have it built as a folder or go full Ukie and do some sort of weird upgraded to 74m thing with it. Two 88s just kind of seems redundant for me, even if they're built differently. I'd want different years just for the sake of having different years. I'm sure if I dig around enough I could find an 87 kit but honestly for me 88 and onward are the most interesting, I want something as close to the end of production as I can get and these 88 kits just so happen to be the easiest available kit and also as close to the end as I was aware of at the time that we can get so it played out perfectly

I've read and seen too many deact horror stories to risk it, unless I knew someone who was genuinely trustworthy over there and could get their hands on very specific and correct kits but then again that's money I don't want to spend. I sure would love to get my hands on as late production 74 kit as I could get though, that'd be really cool

>>34554673
There were some a couple weeks ago but I don't see them listed now, they could have sold out. Also have 68 matching hg kits for $800

>>34554689
According to Tantal it's actually one of the earliest serial numbers he's seen from the 87 kits (not 1987 rifles in general, just the Rguns kits) and is in fact a late 87 trunnion. Plus I got the milled gas tube lever which is nice.

Deact kits are a crapshoot, my first one from my trusted compatriot in Germany worked out perfectly, my RPK-74M however is less than satisfactory but fortunately it was not awfully expensive and I do have the parts I need. Most of them...

>>34554816
If you had to give it a number (if you know), about what percent of the Rguns kits were 87s? Do you happen to know serial number ranges by year?

One of the worst one I've seen recently is one anon here bought an "AK74m" deact that was like half AKM parts, your RPK is like you said less than satisfactory but at least you don't need to really go out of your way to get what you do need, that poor anon with his "74m" kit got royally screwed and there's not much he can do about it other than source like half of his kit

I'm just too cautious about deacts, having to deal with not only customs but also potentially not getting what you're expecting or having stuff missing just isn't something I feel that comfortable risking

>>34555094
Also right after i hit post on this a pretty chunky guy started cruising up and down the street on a bright highliter yellow motorcycle with a crossbow strapped across his back and another crossbow on the back of his bike, I don't know what's going on but it's really funny because this guy is just so over the top trying to be like Walking Dead or something kek

I'm trying to take a pic but my phone camera isn't getting any of them in focus

Will a regular stamped receiver butt stock fit on a MAK90?

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I have been outside the AK market for some time, and from what I can tell it looks like prices are coming down lately. I want to buy one, but I dont really know what brand is good or what prices are good now (with changing materials and such because production methods) My LGS has a deal where I could probably get 100$ off. But i dont know what pricing they have, or availability. Is a WASR worth the 450$ (probably the only type they have) or should I try to find someplace to get a better deal. Keep in mind they dont do internet gun sales (you cant use them as an FFL). Another one might be able to get online sale guns, but they are an hour away, and I dont know if they are dicks, because all the AKS they had listed on their store page were 600-1500

I dont know if i should just hol on to my money or go buy one

>>34555353
Good luck finding a WASR for $450

>>34555397

People in my state suck. one guy wanted an IWI tavor for p239, one guy wanted 1200 for "custom ak-47 with extras" literally no brand listed with 6 steel mags, 100rds of ammo and tapco stock and hand guard set

>>34555397

sorry meant 550

>>34555397
Not impossible. I bought 2 last month, one for 470 the other for 510. Lurk gun joker and be patient.

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>>34555428
Pic related

>>34555436
for shits and giggles, whats the cheapest brand cheapo brand these days, and how low does it go?

I live around lots of fudds, who seem to think that muh militury guns are worth way too much

>>34555473

What do you think I could get for a saiga 223 with folding stock + trigger kit + rmr + 6 mags? I have seen them for 700 with fixed stock

>>34555506
I'll giv u a kis for the rmr

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>>34555550

how about 2 kisses and a peepee touch?

>>34555647
>how about 2 kisses and a peepee touch?
I will add one (1) hetero cuddle for saiga+rmr

Are NPAP's heat treating being a small batch problem true, or is it a reddit meme that century shills are pushing?

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>>34555762
Npap is buy at your own risk. You would be better off with a wasr.

>>34555353
>>34555428
>>34555436
I picked one up last month for straight up $400.
They go for less than $500 all the time on GB.

http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=1034136

Sam 7F w/ 3x mags and 2x drums. $1,000

>>34555818
Sam 7R

>>34555818
That's a deal to fall down the stairs for.

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>>34555818

Id give my teeth for a deal like that.

>>34555871
How much did you pay for your plum ribbed 45 round mag? Some popped up for sale on one of the FB groups and I'm kind of wanting it.

i think i'll lose my guns forever, district court came to conclusion that i'm to be sentenced in 3 & 1/2 months in probation, so no guns for me. i made a complained to higher degree because i'd also lose my job cause of it, but i have no idea how that goes... honestly i dont give fuck about that job anymore, i just want my guns back

>>34555926
Where you at? If you're local I'll "buy" them from you and then "sell" them back when you're clear. I've got plenty of room in my safe.

>>34555916
Like 150$ way overpaid. The ones for 97$ are a good deal.

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>>34555939
finland

>>34555949
Oh fuck you're that dude. That's bullshit what they're doing

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>>34555773
I had a slight tinge of hope when I saw npaps for $430ish with rebate, but I'll keep avoiding them because of the problems I heard about.

>Want ak
>saiga's banned before I could even buy one
>think about vepr
>another import ban
>Wasr's like $650 for one with a bayo lug
At this rate just going to say fuck AK's and just buy a PTR 91 since at this point it less than a $100 difference.

>>34555949
For sexi sexy on that poor woman?

>>34555949
Gibs?

>>34555966
i know, they made a lot bigger number about "the gun being involved" than the alleged roughhousing
>>34555990
district attorney tried to get rape accusation on me as well
>>34555993
gibs what?

>>34556051
Are they seriously just gonna take her word over the lack of literally any evidence? You gotta have some sort of verifiable alibi somewhere

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Has anyone here ever tried to get the wood or metal on their rifles engraved?
What was the cost like?

I'm thinking of getting someone to laser engrave a name/organizational logo into an AK for an award I'm giving to someone.

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TOP. KEK.

>>34556051
I'm not familiar with your story. Are you being charged with raping someone at gun point or something?

>>34556108
yes, she even went to a doctor, and the fucking doctor couldn't detect anything other than her words about it

AUG mags came in, holy cow these things are considerably lighter than I was expecting. Their reputation of being phenomenal mags is clear just from holding a pair in my hands, they feel fantastic

>>34556122
i would rather present the rifle with a certificate stating the award than have a half-ass engraving done, especially laser engraving.

>>34556140
my female friend came over for weekend
had fun night
she leaves early next morning without a reason
next Tuesday police come to seize my guns
apparently i strangled her and then threatened her with a gun
and even still, she still came to spend a night in my apartment
went to court about it

>>34556191
Damn dude that sucks ass. Something similar happened to me when I was a young man but it didn't escalate to police involvement. Sorry to hear about that.

Is there any appeals process to get your guns back after a time like there is in the US?

>>34556147
I'm assuming you brought up that her medical report didn't show anything right? How could they even defens that?

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>>34556211
>implying

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>>34556184
>i would rather present the rifle with a certificate stating the award than have a half-ass engraving done, especially laser engraving.
It's going to have the company logo on the rifle.

I get that a lot of people wouldn't like that, but it's part of the "show" that's put on at the conference.
Everything is going to be plastered with the brand; just how it has to be.

>>34556204
i can apply for license again after the marking on my criminal record expires
>>34556211
district attorney claimed that it was enough of a proof since it was doctor's certificate

>>34556250
>i can apply for license again after the marking on my criminal record expires
That's good at least. Although your current guns are probably going away, right?

>district attorney claimed that it was enough of a proof since it was doctor's certificate
So going to a doctor claiming to have been raped but no evidence of rape being found is good enough over there?

delayed responses:
>>34553738
thanks mate. my FFL was all over me for the same reason. glad you recognize it.
>>34552398
aye
>welded
You know the traditional method of attachment is to file relief cuts in the barrel for the bolts and just torque it down, right?

If you weld you won't be able to clean/oil under the shield, and it may alter the grain of the metal in the barrel (temper/anneal) which could put it at risk for a kb. Depends on the process.

>>34555506
For the rifle I'd say 800-900 by itself. They aren't that desirable, combloc countries can't into .223 pattern. If the mags are (10) or (21) those are 35-40 used.

>>34556266
pretty much yes, although my uncle said he'd take my guns for that period of time. which is 5 five years for civilians, but the authorities see it for ever.

no rape, battery/assault

>>34556239
imo:
hand engraving > stamping/rolling/machine engraving > laser engraving > dot matrix marking (lol)

you can make laser engraving have more depth with repeated passes. it can actually look pretty good if you program it well, but it's still completely obvious which method was used and laser typically has the least character

can you mock up in paint what your basic concept looks like? make a generic logo just so we can see how it looks.

>>34555762
I had a yugo df made in 2015 and it had issues, axis pins began to enlarge. So far later years seem to be fine. I think century extended their rebate till Aug so it may be worth a chance. Worst case sell it for what you paid and you'll be $50 closer to a wasr/slr R rifle.

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Can someone explain bolt carrier peening? What makes it happen, and why is it bad? Both of my WASRs have it a little bit.

>>34556266
Sounds similar to domestic violence here in the states. Just getting live is enough for a charge, at the very least someone is taking a ride to the tank

>>34556329
It just means the hammer is harder then the carrier. Not an issue if it's a small amount. If it gets bad the carrier can hang up under the spring button while firing.

>>34556329
Minimal amount of peen is normal, like just enough to catch your fingernail on.

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>>34556372
Is there any way to fix the carrier tail so it doesn't progress?

>>34556329
difference in hardness between interfacing metals

eventually it can cause parts to become out of spec. there's no particular failure associated with the tang of the bolt carrier peening but it is a sign of improper or mismatched heat treating/hardness elsewhere in the rifle

it's not uncommon to see it with aftermarket triggers (hammers) that are significantly harder than the rifle was built to deal with. many people experience peening with the ALG AKT series.

if you have an especially poorly made rifle such as an IO you may also find the bolt carrier peening because it slams into the rear trunnion (and the trunnion is harder). as a stopgap measure of dealing with this, these rifles ship with recoil buffers. it may be mitigated with a heavier recoil spring

>>34556400
you can try a surplus trigger as opposed to the tapco G2. there's no universal spec for component hardness in AKs so it varies make to make. bulgarian arsenals are found to be harder and peen less with an ALG AKT

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Is this worth 260$ ?

>>34556477
only if it comes with the brush

on the real, that's not a bad price but you aren't saving much over a new one. if you want it, go for it.

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>>34556495
Eh i was just going to pick it up, takes some photos and throw it on files. If there is not a margin it not worth my time.

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>>34556511
but the PRO is part of your brand image!

you know which is a better optic already
>pic related

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>>34556529
>>pic related
psssshhh nah

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>>34556529
The pro is seriously a good optic. I do love mine.

>>34556553
I cant get over how weird that mag looks in that gun.
Also makes me wanna take my PTR-91 out again. I've only put 200 rounds through it since I got it. Need some glass on it. I have trouble with the irons, or more accurately, I have trouble with the cheek weld with the irons.

>>34555916
>>34555942
I really want one but I don't want to spend $100 on a 45 round mag when I've already got a half dozen 45 round bakelites that serve the same purpose. They're almost gone though, only one left
>I recognize half of the people in the comments from either here or AK Files

>>34555094
I thought there weren't very many at all, but according to that one anon, they actually had them listed on their website not too long ago. But they're gone now evidently. I dunno. Perhaps more than I originally thought, but I would say safely below 10%.

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Anyone ever use WOFL ammo?

Going to a night pistol shoot tonight, hopefully they'll let me run through a stage with krink for fun.

I need to replace my extractor claw on my Saiga 7.62 but I saw that some people say its proprietary, is that true?

>>34557238
It is. Can't just use any old AKM extractor.

>>34557207
kek
Is that knock off Wolf?

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>>34557207

doge brand aint bad either

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>>34557318
Nope the rest of the box has the correct spelling.

>>34557333
what? so every pack is individually painted by hand with a stencil?

>>34557327
Where get ammo?

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>>34557372
Idk man thats why i thought it was wierd.

>>34557441
HEY Jack quit turning that pegasus outward YOU'RE NOT A HOT SHOT YOU'RE NOT """COOL"""

hey lads
i got a 1968 Draco C with romanian arrowhead proofmark for 599 how i do?

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>>34556163
Just wait until you insert one into your AUG. It's delicious.

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>>34557612

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>>34557608
:^)

>>34557643
Hopefully selling FAL tomorrow so AUG soon

I've never really cared too much for extended mags as they've always been a little too big for me, but these 42 rounders aren't that big or heavy and for an extra 12 rounds I might pick up more than the two or three I was planning to

there a way to use a brace and a grip sling attachment on an ak pistol?

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>>34557746
>selling FAL for an AUG

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>>34557879
I cri evrytiem

>>34553066
Type 56. I'm jelly.

I want a select fire type 56-1 more then anything.

>>34557238
The saiga is based on ak74 series. You could try your luck finding a 7.62 extractor or use a 5.45. It would have to be reprofiled, the rim on 7.62 is a touch thicker and change the radius.

>>34557879
Ehh it just sits in the safe. I never ever shoot it. I'll sell it for more than I paid for it and buy a gun I've always wanted and that I know for a fact I'll actually shoot and enjoy

Plus I'm kind of doin what the Austrians did, replacing the StG-58 with the (kind of) StG-77

>>34557911
R1 eventually tho, Steyr FALs are just so boring to me and don't have the cool history as nearly every other FAL

>>34558013
its p cool, I've almost bought an under folder from the same importer a few times over the years but I can't get myself to pay $1500+ on a rifle I already have and that I didn't pay a cent for

>>34557868
yee. look into echo93's offerings

>>34558126
C a d i l l a c

I'mgonna dress and redress mine all sorts of ways till I build more fixed stock kits

>>34558239
They are really really nice rifles but I dunno they just don't have the cool history that others have and i don't really care about having the nicest FAL, I want the history of the R1 and a rifle that has seen its way around the bush

If I had the money for both AK autism and FAL autism id do both but I don't and I like AKs better so they win out

>>34558296
Rip

The thing that'll suck when you get to R1s too is the barrels are usually shot and/or corroded to shit from poor maintanance

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>>34558309
True, but seeing as I don't even shoot my StG I don't think it'll bug me that much. I just want to have a rifle from what is to me one of the most interesting and one of my favorite conflicts (Border War) for the history of the rifle

>>34553092
What handguard? I've got my own .223 VEPR coming in on wednesday.

>>34558397
If you ain't gonna shoot it much then it shouldn't be a problem. Probably be able to hunt down a Coonan R1 before they went to shit too

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Got my east german mags in today, man they look sweet. Best $130 i've spent so far.

>>34558422
I've come to terms with the fact that I'd be downgrading FALs but in the end I have to keep reminding myself that I already don't shoot it so there's no point in hanging on to the best when I don't even take advantage of it being the best

>>34558467
I wonder what happened to all the East German AK related tooling when Germany was reunified

>>34558397
This is why I like /k/ and specifically /akg/
Buy guns for the history, not the tacticool factor.

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>>34558493
>tfw tacticooling old historicals

>>34558486
The heart wants what it wants my dude. I still kinda wanna sell my mk12 for an AUG

>>34558510
Selling an AR for something interesting is understandable though. Selling a battle rifle isn't.

>>34558559
Eh, I understand parts autism. That's why I bought a belgian para lower instead of a DSA or some shit, same with the furniture

>>34558559
>muh battle rifle on a pedestal and everything that isn't a battle rifle is inferior and gay
>>>/brg/

>>34558493
Actually it's kind of the opposite in this case, I sold all of my milsurp and a portion of that money paid for my FAL, and now I'm selling my FAL and putting that money into an AUG

>>34553570
I want a type 56 fsb so bad.

>>34553596
>AKS-74M?
>>34553596
>>34553605
>>34553960
>>34554006
KYS

>>34554373
Are you AWB LARPing?

>>34559240
>bullying someone for wanting to learn about AKs

>watching re:apocalypse
>just realized the amount of micro galils being used by stars
>also a couple tavors
RACCOON WAS LITERALLY A JEWISH PLOT

>>34556529
Is pic related a 104?

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Picked this up for $60 at a local gun show. How'd I do?

>>34559282
Yes

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>>34559296

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>>34559301
My rifle is your rifle's older brother. This makes us serial number brothers.

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I had no idea these were that super rare

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Do OTK stamps make things more valuable or sought after? One of the two bakelites I just got had one and I was curious about it.

Also what's the deal with the bakelite mags with white numbers on them and could one possibly fake it with a stencil and white paint or something without messing up the magazine too much?

>>34552007
I need some motivation to build a Polish kit I have laying around.

Any ideas gentlemen?

Already have a jig holding the trunnion so I can drill holes in the heat treated blank I have.

>>34559296
>$30 mag
>$15 grip
>$5 pouch

>>34559296
>>34559395
that's what I was thinking, it's kinda eh but at the end of the day if you like what you got then it'll be alright.

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>>34559395
>>$15 grip
Since when?
I have a 20 gallon bucket full that i bought for less than 1 each..this isnt even all of them

>>34559419
i'll buy them for 2 bucks each, double your money.

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>>34559447
lol no imma retire on them

>>34559419
That one with the ugly splotches. I want it.
Also, that grip could be a polish fat grip, which cost more.

>>34559395
Mag + grip was 50, pouch was 10.

>>34559456
It isnt.
fatty grips have embossed checkering not impressed
I have a few love em

>>34559455
well you got a super good deal, you can probably list them on the files for like 5 bucks each and they pay shipping and they'd sell good. especially the unique ones they'd sell for more.

Goddammit do I want a micro galil like Carlos's now. Fuggin sexy

>>34559465
check out
>>34558467

I just bought these a couple days ago off the forums. you can find better deals online then gun shows these days. 26 bucks each not counting the pouch he threw in for me.

>>34559477
meh ill wait
I have bunches of other ak parts too fcgs pistons stocks mags even a bizon dust cover

>>34559490
Yeah, I understand. I need to get more aquainted and active on forums. But I just got paid and don't feel like I overpaid too much. I mean bulk he would have given a discount but meh, figured id get one for the hell of it.

>>34559455
>those Chinese grips
hmhmm

>>34558410

>https://www.sgmtactical.com/

>>34559574
nah you're fine i wouldn't sweat what you paid for it. I saw a damn 74 plum mag going for $75 at the last gun show I went too.

>>34559296
u got fuk

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>be advised

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>>34559693
it has an erection how delightful

>>34559693
what happen to that groove cheemp?

>>34559772
Superior American machining, looks to be.

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>>34559693
You have my attention

>>34559772
Wut

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bought the black Vepr .223 for $65iddy. That ptr was for $1500 . 10aesb for $8cuarenta.

>>34559808
Thought about a vepr 223. Nice find.

>>34552007
i want to buy an io inc ak off armslist for 500 dollars.
im pretty sure i know when he bought it and he says it only has about 120 rounds through it.

is this a good deal

>>34560006
Fantastic deal. A plastic surgeon would charge way more than that to remove your face.

>>34560006
thats a steal at only 500. made in the usa! better than that chinese junk

>>34560006
No.

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>>34560006
NOOOOOOOOOOO
They are worse than their fuckawful reputation.
Trust me.

>>34560006
Read the fucking pastebin

>>34560070
i did but havent they improved over time at all it seems they would've improved by now

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8geqv1T6Us

>>34560119
No man, they haven't. They're still shit. Don't settle for shit. Buy a WASR if you want to go cheap. Avoid 'murican AK's.

>>34560130
atlantic firearms seems like a decent price, but ive heard awful things about Century Arms. century just imports the WASRs they dont fuck them up or anything right. can anyone attest to this.

I read the pastebin and it seems arsenal would be the next best choice but it is double my price range. is the quality of an arsenal really worth the wait or should i go with just a wast.

>>34560192
*WASR
not a wast

>>34560192
I have both man. The WASR just works and the only thing century does to it is open up the mag well. However, my arsenal is a better built and higher quality rifle. Feel free to ask me questions man. I can provide pics if you want.

>>34560192
They fuck them up by opening up the mag well and leaving all the metal shavings in it. I'm still cleaning them out of nooks and crannies.

>>34560211
i have a couple of questions.

Both the Arsenal and WASR are forged not cast right?
When you say they open up the mag do you mean clear the rile before they ship it or something else?
How would you say the accuracy compares between the two rifles?
Also when you say the Arsenal is a higher quality rifle is that in terms of tightness of the build, recoil, maintenance over time or wearing of the gun, and cleaning the gun (does one get more dirty quicker than the other?)

>>34560301
They are made to accept 10 round mags, they open up the mag wells and dremel out the stuff that lets it only accept the 10 rnd.

>>34560315
were they made that way because of some european law or what

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why?

>>34560301
Yes, both rifles are made using proper metals and parts. Accuracy is not really comparable because my arsenal is a 5.45 rifle so it lends itself to be more accurate, however the WASR can easily hit steel at 100 yards. The arsenal is a smoother and tighter gun than the WASR. I don't really worry about how dirty they get. They're both shooting cheap and dirty steel cased ammo.

>>34560357
Pretty much for importation purposes. Look up what WASR stands for.

>>34560301
this is me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2MWcsdyO4Q
did some research i understand what >>34560315 was telling me.

>>34560211
also i wouldnt mind pics if you'd like to share them

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>>34560423
What do you want pictures of?

>>34560381
because muh import ban. It's beyond fucking dumb, I'm trying to find a nice blonde stock that fits a MAK90 to give to my dad as a present and they're stupidly fucking expensive.

>>34560395
thanks, i looked it up waassennar, basically legal arms trade seems to be similar to california's magazine bans between these countries.

what would you say the trigger weight is n the WASR. I could always buy a looser or tighter trigger but i'm on a tight budget currently and would like to buy a out of the box and ready to go rifle.

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Where's Ohionanon

>>34560445
id love pictures of the WASR and anything else. I'm just getting into guns and im looking for an AK so i'm not sure what to ask for.

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>>34560474
The triggers that century installs into the WASR isn't bad at all. It's a nice and crisp trigger, I have an ALG AKT in the arsenal that I absolutely recommend at ~$50. It's very easy to double tap and it'll spook you if you're not careful.

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>>34560496
Sure thing man. I didn't care for the parkerized finish so I redid it which is why it's a bit glossy.

>>34560498
>>34560514
the only good thing i heard about the io really was the g2 trigger being crisp but if the wasr has a good one already i wont bother but ill write down the ALG AKT for later in case i get a bad trigger.

>>34560514
looks really nice i have these two bullets that i sometimes carry in my pockets and they got all smooth and shiny from it. reminded me of your finish.

>>34560445
im not looking for a 5.45 because ive read in past threads the price has gone up and it just doesnt seem worth it with being im looking for something cheap to shoot. seems like a great round but the surp game is as it is.

one other question: How does cleaning a chromed barrel work out if it is just chrome line does it flake off over time and if i clean it too hard will it malform (because isnt chrome a softish metal?)

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>>34560563
Chrome is very very durable and makes cleaning very easy. It provides a slick surface to slide all the dirt away. I've never heard of it flaking off.

>>34560581
That's a pleasant relief.

How would you say the WASR feels shooting: loose or the pieces feel solidly put together.

>>34560599
She's fun as hell to shoot man. 7.62x39 kicks hard enough to enjoy it. And like I mentioned before, she'll ring steel at 100 yards all day long. I don't doubt that these rifles will outlive me.

Slavshit related
http://www.armslist.com/posts/7076234/wichita-kansas-tactical-gear-for-sale--serbian-yugo-helmets
This nigga is an hour from me, should I go? Should I try and Jew him down a bit? What are they actually worth? I'll only buy ones from him that actually fit my weird head

>>34560610
Thanks for all the help man. I really appreciate it. earlier I wasn't really considering Century Arms because of their reputation, but they seem to be worth the extra ~$150. And i'll check out that trigger too if i want to replace the standard one

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>>34560651
No problem dude. Just remember, Century imports are good to go but their build should be scrutinized and carefully inspected. You don't be disappointed you go with a WASR. She'll do you well!

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>>34560700
>You don't be disappointed you go with a WASR

>>34560779
Sorry m8. Tired and cant type. But you're honestly the only person I've seen with that issue. Did dremeling it out not work? Have you contacted century?

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What are anons doing at this time of night?

>>34560810
Playing Halo 5 / Halo Wars 2

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>>34560798
>Did dremeling it out not work?
Sorta. Fewer issues but it looks like I didn't take enough material off. I'll have to take it out shooting again and see, I painted the area so I'll see if their's a bunch more wear on that ledge and go back at it with the dremel ;-;
>Have you contacted century?
Consider the rifle has been completely refinished, is YEARS out of warranty, etc I don't think they'd help much.

>>34560827
>>34560798
If I decide to just replace the bolt carrier, will link related work: http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-046B.html
???

>>34560810
going to a water park in like 4 hours

>>34560835
I'd try and find carrier of the same county of origin for autism but it should be okay. Just check your headspace.

>>34560810
Taking my 3rd shit in the last hour.

>>34560847
All the Romanian bolt carriers are from parts kits sot hey have serial numbers. The one I linked (I believe) is a virgin bolt carrier/no serial. Also I don't have 7.62x39 gauges ;-;

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>>34560810
At work for the next 2½ hours.

>>34560856
You can check headspace with painters tape. Look it up. But the BCG should work but do your research.

>>34560843
At 8am?

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>>34560494
hay

>>34560896
I put like another 100 rounds on the FN+klesch today. 0 issue. You still got yours?

>>34560869
I'm not super worried about headspace but I'll probably just take it to a smith or something and have thing look it over, idk

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>>34560906
Yeah I still have it. I'm going to take it out again today so I'll report back. How many rounds through yours now? After the last time, I took it apart and tightened everything up so hopefully it holds together this time

>>34560971
Like 110 with the light, no lightcut holster so no light for 2gun. Check you rail and just make sure it's on good, mine is a touch finicky too. I think they were designed for glock frames which is why mine sits just a lil crooked. XC-1s do the same thing on FN frames

Have you guys ever had issues with your CC/card info with Kvar? I know PSA, AK builder, and Apex have had issues with people reporting fraud/charges on their cards after. How do you even avoid this? I don't really feel like getting a third party service.

>>34560991
Oh dang, I put probably 350 with the light during during its first outing. Since it scratched the frame on my 229, I'm going to try it out on my Glock 19 even though it has piggu nose

>>34561058
ignore the spelling it's 4 am

>>34561058
Oh shid, I didn't realize it only fell off after so many. If I can get a custom molded duty holster I'm gonna keep the klesch on permanently but I'm reserving most of my ammo for 2gun at this point so I don't shoot often outside that. Sucks too cause it's so aesthetic

>>34553066
i'd take polymer any day

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>>34561058
Pic related the slight cant btw. Holds strong when I magdump 45 so I know it's on there damn strong at least. What cal is your 229? I think that's the next handgun I want.

>>34561053
Someone pls respon

>>34560881
Why are you asking like that's weird. I'd rather go early before it gets hot as shit.

>>34561118
You'll be fine

>>34561140
That's kinda weird dude. Why you goin to a waterpark anyways?

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>>34561053
Put the money you plan on spending on one of those prepaid visa cards.

>>34561144
Last year I went through two cards though just from gun related purchases (nothing else online except through amazon or netflix subscription), I'm paranoid as fuck.

>>34561146
I'm not the same guy that was going to the waterpark.
I never go to a water park cause I have family that lives on the lake and have a boat.
Do you not like water? Are you of a darker complexion?

>>34561149
That's what I've been doing but it get's annoying having to do that for every purchase ;-; Thankfully though it's also helped stop me from impulse buying. Still doe. thanks for the (You) at least.

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>>34561108
You're not alone, it does it on the 229 too. It's 9mm btw. It shoots incredibly nice but if I had to do it again I'd get the 226 SAO

>>34561152
Had my card get got this week. TD bank is so chill

>>34561168
I used to clean pools. I was already an autistic fuck about water but I literally do not deal with the stuff anymore. I almost threw hands with someone for splashing me with jacuzzi water

>>34561177
Why's that? If I were to get one it'd be a .40 for that .357 sig convert

>>34561191
>Had my card get got this week. TD bank is so chill
My bank was pissed because I couldn't get the company that charged my card to refund me.

>>34561191
Did you not learn your lesson about meme calibers with the 6.5g? I bought the 229 thinking I'd carry it, which I did for a little while, but it turned out to be just a range gun. The 226 fit my hands a bit better and that sweet sweet single action

>>34561229
6.5g is nice. It's ARs I don't like really. I'd like a gun chambered in it still. AIMS74anon said it was pretty nice when he shot it too, basically feels like hot 5.56

>>34561216
F

TD just said "Yea which ones are fraud? Cool, we're gonna refund you those, we canceled your card, just walk into any location and grab a new one"

>>34561191
>I used to clean pools. I was already an autistic fuck about water but I literally do not deal with the stuff anymore. I almost threw hands with someone for splashing me with jacuzzi water
Pool water can be pretty disgusting. And I hate salt water. I mainly swim in lake water.

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>>34552007
Do any of you accidentally bump fire a second round every once in a while or is it just me?

I have maybe one out of every 250 rounds. I know I need to work on my trigger discipline, but I'm just curious how common it is for others.

>>34561243
>TD just said "Yea which ones are fraud? Cool, we're gonna refund you those, we canceled your card, just walk into any location and grab a new one"
Lucky you. Really greases my groin that so many gun companies and mil surp places use sketchy as fuck card processors.

>>34561269
I've done it before if I'm shooting from a bench and not shouldering the rifle well. Makes me feel like a fucking mongoloid tbqh

>>34561270
I think mine got swiped at publix or some shit. No way to really though

>>34561266
I'm good with salt water but I will not get in any form of swimming pool. Jacuzzis are especially disgusting. The filters are always undersized and they clog real quick so the water isn't even being cleaned without people realizing it. And then when you do spray them out it's almost a milk mixed with dirt of just bodily fluids and dead skin. It literally grosses me out more than traumatic bodily injury

Anyone bought from here before?

http://jesticearms.com

New bread >>34561329

New bread >>34561329

New bread >>34561329

>>34552747
Dtk-2, Definitive Arms Fighter, genuine 74 with 14mm to 24mm adapter, there's alot of good options, just watch some reviews on the one your interested in.

>>34553117
Laid back, very knowledgeable, tons of cool AK stuff.