/akg/ AK General

>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

>>34312321
But won't they rust!?

>>34312321
Those are some healthy looking krinks, I bet after a few weeks planted in some cosmoline you'd have some nice full size rifles

>>34312358
as long as youre not using capitalist water, no they wont.

>>34312358
its not water, its vodka

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>you will never smash open a subzero one with the entire male population of /akg/

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Chimps, how large was the right side cutout for your folding stock on your 74U LLC receiver?

Mine looks pretty damn generous, moreso than I'm used to seeing on factory guns and Mario's work.

>>34312428
Well I mean, I saw it, but I didn't put the trunnion in to check the size or anything. That looks perfect right there, I'll be pleased if mine looks like that.

>>34312443
Yeah, it works, which is really all I can ask for at this point, but I just wasn't sure if it was normal. I'm still not completely used to AK-loose tolerances.

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>>34312497
This is a Tula rear stub, not the same factory but it should give you an idea

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>>34312363
After several weeks of growth.

>>34312428
That gap

Welp.
Looks like Molot imports are going away.
Fuck.

https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/sm0114.aspx

>Today’s action also targets six individuals and entities pursuant to E.O. 13661, which authorizes sanctions on, among others, any individual or entity that is owned or controlled by, or that has provided material or other support to, persons operating in the arms or related materiel sector in the Russian Federation, and officials of the Government of the Russian Federation.

>Molot-Oruzhie, OOO manufactures ordnance and accessories and is located in the Russian Federation. In 2016, previously-designated Kalashnikov Concern advised a foreign company to use Molot-Oruzhie, OOO to falsify invoices in order to circumvent U.S. and EU sanctions. Molot-Oruzhie is being designated for operating in the arms or related material sector of the Russian Federation and for acting or purporting to act for on behalf of, directly or indirectly, Kalashnikov Concern.

>>34312670
No

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>>34312670
when will we end the madness?

>>34312670
Goddamnit. So much for those RPK-74 clones.

>>34312670
looks like I'm never gonna buy an ak now

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>>34312391
not with that attitude you wont.

>>34312670
Kill me.

RPK74M never

>tfw was one of those trump will improve russian relations cucks
should have just wrote in Uncle Adolf instead of kosher orange

>>34312380
Vodka is 60% water

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F wallet

>>34312901
Plans?

Was the best way to make clean holes for a side folder?

>>34312921
RPK74M maybe if not just sexy sexy vepr

Are there any railed handguards for saiga ak74's that are 12 inches long?

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>>34312670
>breathes sigh of relief for the 2nd time as a vepr I bought becomes unobtanium less than a month later
Well that sucks. I was really looking forward to having some other cool toys from them at some point. At least there's already tons of them in the states that can be resold.
I'm really going to get teary eyed if they stomp out wolf/barnaul/vympel etc so no more cheap ammo on top of that. That'd really drive the point home.
But I guess that's why I've been stocking up so much ammo, so I don't have to panic while other companies/countries take years to pick up the slack. There's no way in hell I'm paying 20bucks for a box of winchester.

>>34312980
If they get rid of ammo imports it very well may push me to the brink of suicide. Fuck Trump

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>>34312670
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>34312996
>implying Trump made this happen
>implying it wasn't just some dickweed at the treasury expanding previous sanctions that Trump cannot unilaterally remove anyway

>>34312996
I guess you can stop worrying that some k-var imports are going to make your rpk-74 kit build more effort/expense than it was worth.

>>34313023
That was a personal problem. I am in no way relieved that Molot got sanctioned.

>>34313020
Trump made a statement himself that sanctions are going to stay until Russia gives back Crimea, did he not

>>34312996
Bette buy that FM soon, maybe you should have waited to send that kit in or not bought that side folder receiver.

>>34313043
>I am in no way relieved that Molot got sanctioned.
I didn't figure you were. That's worse for you and everyone else.

>>34312980
They might stomp on Vympel's balls since they make a lot of heavy ordnance for the Russian military, but I don't think Barnaul does anything outside of the civilian sector. We might be ok there.

I was never too interested in VEPRs so this isn't as crushing for me as it is to everyone else. I'm just sad we'll never get RPK-74Ms now. I can't afford to buy a VEPR at the moment either, so I guess I'll have to be satisfied with my AKS-74N and Maadi.

>>34313050
Planning on it
Probably gonna sell my M45A1 this week

>>34313051
Just wanted to make it clear that I'm not happy about this

>>34313043
>I am not going to remove this sanction placed by the previous administration in retaliation for Russia's strong arm policies in the Ukraine until Russia stops expanding dong in the region =/= Expanding sanctions

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/AKG/ moves to fucking fast compared to other generals. I cant keep up anymore :(

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>>34311633
can someone please help me

>>34313181
Forums, perhaps gunbroker

>>34312997
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

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>>34313202

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RIP VEPR

>>34313181
AKFiles and FB groups. I am going to throw a set up there with a cracked HG sometime today.

>>34313209
someBODY once told me

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WASR guy, I had a few similar/the same issues, except this time they're less frequent BUT the extractor is tearing the shit out of the case rims. I'm fucking done, I think I'm just going to take this piece of shit and use it as a target or something. Also turns out my maadi that I was so fond off? It blew out a bunch of primers. Mind you the ammunition I was using was all Golden Tiger this time around so it's not the ammo's fault.

>>34313305
Shitty ammo?

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I'm genuinely considering selling my second RPK 74M so I can buy Veprs that I didn't get a chance to yet while they're still in stock, but I told myself that I was going to keep them both.

The panic has set in hard gentlemen.

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>>34312670

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>7n6 is kill
>Kalashnikov Concern is kill
>Mags for cheap from Russia is kill
>Molot is now kill
Everything I know and love is crumbling out from under me

>>34312848
It fucking hurts man....

>>34313319
>Golden Tiger
"No". I really don't now what the fuck is going on at this point. I just want a fucking AKM-ish rifle that fucking WORKS Jesus FUCKING CHRIST I'm tired of this shit. I'm either the unluckiest fuck on this fucking planet or you're all full of shit

>>34313305
Looks like they use milling cutters well past time to sharpen them.

>>34313356
>I just want a fucking AKM-ish rifle that fucking WORKS

There are plenty floating around

>>34312996
If the ammo goes I'm greasing up my 104 and 107 for good and putting them in the back of the safe. No point in shooting them anymore since I burn through steel case faster than I can afford to stockpile it.

>>34313305
I don't know what to tell you but I want you to know I am genuinely sorry for you and wish that you were not having such bad luck

>>34313383
Same. Maybe buy a 106FR just to have an AK I could actually shoot.

I've said it before:
Nothing good ever happens

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Man, sounds like World Refugee Day is a blast so far.

>>34313291
no I'll go to hell since I fell for the budget m4gery meme. So now I have a rifle that is worth less than I paid year later, don't want to put any money into because I don't like it,and got some ammo what was part of the bad GT batch with 5.45 primers lel.


Now that molot is gone I bet russian ammo is at risk now too so even if I found a decent ak I wanted Id be worried about ammo becoming kill

And any of the actual interesting AR stuff is fucking retarded expensive, a c7 upper is like $200 used JUST


If 5.56 ak mags weren't $50 I'd consider falling for 556 ak meme

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>>34312670
RIP MOLOT

>>34313397
>Maybe buy a 106FR just to have an AK I could actually shoot

I just bought an AUG expecting to have more time to see if I wanted a vepr or not. As soon. As they announced new sanctions I knew it was pointless since either rifles or ammo were going to get hit. So much for Trump being the pro gun candidate, having accomplished a grand total of fuck all.

>>34313380
Well fuck me then because I've gone through half a dozen rifles and they've all been flops in one way or another.
>>34313367
That's just Romanian shit
>>34313397
>I don't know what to tell you but I want you to know I am genuinely sorry for you and wish that you were not having such bad luck
I don't even know what to do at this point. Sell them? Destroy/demill them? I'm beyond perplexed and it's really fucking bothering me. I don't know what I did to deserve this shit. What fucking Karma. I must have been literally Hitler or something in another life.

>>34312670
Thanks Trump.

>>34313319
Shitty guns. The only good AKs are Russian AKs. The gun community has known this for a decade. Stop buying shit, you missed the ball on good AKs and you just have to suck it up and be a lolARfag.

Also golden tiger isn't the best ammo ever. I've had some with light primers and it's fucking laquer coated

>>34313425
btw ptr pls stop being fgts and make a 93 clone

>>34313440
rip

I really have no clue what to do now since AK's are becoming kill and retro AR parts are retarded.

PTR 91 would be cool but if russian ammo gets killed then shooting it would be even on money
A good FAL is retarded expensive so none of that and ammo
gucci stuff like mcx,bren,aug,tavor are too expensive

Might get a .308 bolt gun to try doing long range stuff but its kinda stupid since I don't even really have a place to shoot plus my AR with a scope would probably be fine for that. An ar pistol or evo with brace is the only other thing mildly interesting I can think of.

I'll probably just buy a turkshit jericho then stop buying gun stuff for a while and finally build a computer.

>>34313490
oy vey are you okay with those nasty russians helping those antisemite syrians gassing the 26 gorillion little baybees?

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>>34313597
>The only good AKs are Russian AKs

Wrong

Chinese and Bulgarian rifles are top notch and there are plenty of countries making decent AKs

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>>34313529
>Thanks Obama
Ftfy

These new sanctions are under the EO Obama introduced, and that Congress just voted to codify.
So Trump can't do shit about it, unfortunately.

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>>34313610
Evos are fun. Do that.

Now would also be a good time to get into suppressors and such too. I don't think PTR91 ammo is too expensive right now either; you can still get brass .308 for about 50 CPR if you do a bit of searching. Not as good as steel case pricing, but still good.

>>34313526
Was your grandfather Bill Ruger or something?

>>34313610
I Stand With Israel

>>34313619
>Chinese and Bulgarian rifles

>Chinese rifles
Ha, they're only considered top tier because they're rare since they were banned. Quality isn't all there.

>Bulgarian rifles
Only good because they're imported as a barreled receiver then done up in an American factory, yet they still end up having a plethora of problems like small parts breakage and paint melting off.

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>>34313397
>Nothing good ever happens
Not being a dick by posting this but this is the same feel that I feel. Rather it's on a day to day personal level or the greater meta things. Good things rarely come and they often go by faster than you can catch them, outside of these oases of bliss in time, life is nothing but a series of disappointment, compromises, and dread.

>>34313610
>are you okay with those nasty russians helping those antisemite syrians gassing the 26 gorillion little baybees?

As long as it means I get AKs and cheap ammo, yes.

>>34312428
That looks terrible.

I had the dude in Oregon, My Guns Northwest install a folding stock. It's so tight I want to fuck it.

>>34313633
Trump: "I will undo every Obama executive order on day 1"

He had every opportunity and the power to do it. He didn't even attempt to do so. He lied to us. Don't fall for a politician's bullshit so easily like a goddamn boomer.

>>34313093
>squating

>>34313684
>Ha

Back to redort

>>34313684
>they're only considered top tier because they're rare since they were banned

No, they are considered top tier because they are built like tanks.

>paint melting off.
Bulgy paint is a meme from one bad run of rifles.

Every bulgy rifle I have ever had blows any Russian paintjob out of the water.

>>34313697
It's not Meridian's fault the window is so large. The cut was done by 74U LLC when they made the receiver; Meridian just installed the rear trunnion.

Oh well. Not that huge a deal in the grand scheme of things, just a minor annoyance.

>>34313690
Spite is a very, very good motivator to get you through each day. I highly recommend it.

>>34313661
>Was your grandfather Bill Ruger or something?
Lol. Nope. My maternal biological grandfather was a big fat Missourian farmer who was adopted by some relatives that left him a farm. He then married my maternal grandmother, popped out a kid, and then divorced because my maternal grandmother was fucking insane and he may or may not have molested my mom or something like that. He's still alive and kicking but is essentially a semi-mobile vegetable. Years of, after selling the farm, working in the aerospace industry as a painter fucked him up pretty good. Never met him in person though.

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>>34313709
Cry more

>>34313425
>fell for budget m4gery

Same. If I,were you, Id just go build an A1/A2 with it. A change of layout may help you like the platform more, even though you're more or less building a new rifle.

>>34312428
>>34313697
Can you say, schadenfreude?

>>34313730
>Spite is a very, very good motivator to get you through each day. I highly recommend it.
The problem is that I'm spiteful with existence and completely unmotivated to do anything about my current state of things. Even the tiniest bit of escapism, like guns, turns into one failure after another, of things that are by and large out of my control.

>>34313690
I can't tell if I'm jaded or my SSRI just makes me numb. I didn't even flinch at this Molot news. It's just, "of course"

>>34313697
Fuck you

>>34313709
This
So many Trump cockriders
I voted for Trump, I got my little sister who was 18 at the time to vote for Trump, my parents voted for Trump (they were going to anyways), and I helped convince my grandparents to vote for the very first time in their lives, for Trump. This is bullshit.

>>34313779
>I can't tell if I'm jaded or my SSRI just makes me numb. I didn't even flinch at this Molot news. It's just, "of course"
In honour of Trailer Trash Tuesday, Daewoo, and our angst
https://youtu.be/kXYiU_JCYtU

Recommendations for good VEPR furniture

>>34313779
Honestly fuck Trump. I just knew he wasn't going to follow through with half of his shit and that didn't even balance out with the other shitty stuff that he IS for, like mass surveillance. Decided about a month before the deadline for voter registration (it would be my first presidential election mind you) to not even bother. This shit was coming from a mile away. It amazes me all the cunts that still slobber all over his cock.

>>34313830
Grandpa anon, what's a VPRRRR?

>>34313779
What happened with turbothis anyway? Seems he left a bad taste in people's mouths on AKForum.

>>34313830
The furniture it came with. Why do you faggots need to modify everything? Want something more modular? Get a standard ak?

>>34313834
Goddamn you people are babies.

>>34313834
>still waiting on whatever the HPA got rolled into
>still no national reciprocity
>not a single significant pro gun action since inauguration
>now he's fucking gun owners over trying to cover his own ass

Not that reciprocity would matter much since my state requires fingerprints and shit submitted to the state police after a class costing inexcess of $100.

Politics is shit. Leave me the fuck alone and let me buy whatever I want.

>>34313899
I bought mine which is a straight back for 650 and it came with a cracked stock set

>>34313981
rrrrrrrRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE REE REE

>>34313855
Dunno, saw the thread where he was asking the mods to delete his account, sounds like some drama bullshit. He's not the only one who can do rewelds anyways so fuck it.

>>34314026
https://youtu.be/j2vTStG6Yys

>>34314030
Apparently he was asked to return some spendy kit and it was likely left on the owners porch to be stolen.

Anyhow he's around I emailed him inquiring about a SGL conversion

>>34313981
He's a piece of Cosmopolitan Kosher New York City shit. Fuck Trump and fuck the retarded baby boomers who fell hand over heel for his bullshit. Same shit happened with the UK and brexit.

>>34313981
Those first two things will probably start moving again once the Majority Whip gets out of the hospital. Kinda hard to hold a hearing of any sort when the leader for the majority party got lit up by someone who woke up, loaded an SKS, said "here's how Bernie can still win," and went Republican hunting.

>>34314077
Don't you find that all just a bit convenient?

>>34314091
I absolutely do think it's suspicious. Still, if anything, it'll make the GOP double down on reciprocity once they get back. Not a lot we can do about it at the moment.

>>34314077
All I really hope for is title 1 suppressors. All I get is more gun bans.

>>34313646
I don't really want to buy bubba's FAL build he did in 1993 or spend $400 on tooling, $500 for a HUEHUEHUE receiver and then a parts kit.

>>34313659
An evo pistol would be neat but its hard justify the price difference over building an AR pistol especially since I already have mags and ammo.

I saw a PTR 91 for high 700's last year black friday so I am watching this year to see what happens, more expensive to shoot but it fills more of a role than a EVO. Should get a stable source of income before I get something that shoots half dollars though.

Don't really have anything worth suppressing so I don't see myself buying any unless hpa passes, if it does I might get a threaded cz p01.
Can't say I am too hopeful for that passing.

But for now I am more interested in a tristar t-120 since space cowboy things.

>>34313661
If the Israeli's made new decoker jericho's without the 1913 rail and made original galil's instead of those ACE abortions, I'd hate them less.

>>34313692 *angrymerchant.png*


>>34313742
I would if the part's weren't as expensive. Probably $700 to do a cheap a2 and $900+ to do a correct a1. For a while I was checking arfcom every few hours for used A2 uppers but I don't have the patients or the time to compete with those guys.


>>34314168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV-3xrbMIiI

>>34313779
>Fuck you
Looks like you already got fucked, faggot

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Almost got a bead on a groundhog

Would've improved this day

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>>34314268
Speaking of folders, I got curious and looked up some other stubs to see if that extra thicc window cut is normal.

Certainly looks that way. This is a Bulgy AKS-74 stub; I used a Bulgy rear trunnion on my build since I couldn't find a Russian one. I'd ask if there's a size difference, but my Russian stock hardware fit the trunnion perfectly. Hard to say, but at the end of the day, it looks like the gap isn't as out of the ordinary as I expected. If it was centered with a gap on top and bottom, I probably would've never noticed.

>>34313064

Barnaul is the main supplier of ammo to the Russian military.

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>>34314318
Yep. It's more authentic that way. They're intentionally oversized. Here's my Bulgarian krink right now.

>>34314334
Real talk right now, is ammunition in jeopardy?

You guys are a bunch of babies. Muh Trumps fault. You guys should of just voted for Hillary.

>>34314370
>should of

>>34314370
Like it would've mattered.

Not voting Hillary liberated me from having to put up with the most two-faced people I've ever met. Didn't even have to vote Trump to make it happen.

I won't say all things happen for a reason but the last 7 months have been a net gain.

pretty much, if you don't own a Russian AK you're a cuck

>>34314370
We would have lost Molot, Vympel, and Barnaul six months ago if Trump lost.

>>34314248
>>34314267
That's a bright cat

>>34314362

WOLF ammo exports are also included on the list, buck a round 7.62x39 here we come!


'WOLF' HOLDING OF SECURITY STRUCTURES (a.k.a. DEFENSE HOLDING STRUCTURE 'WOLF'; a.k.a. HOLDING SECURITY STRUCTURE WOLF; a.k.a. KHOLDING OKHRANNYKH STRUKTUR VOLK; a.k.a. WOLF HOLDING COMPANY), ul. Panferova d. 18, Moscow 119261, Russia; Nizhniye Mnevniki, 110, Moscow, Russia; Tax ID No. 7736640919 (Russia) [UKRAINE-EO13660].

>>34314433
HOLY SHIT

>>34314433
Fuck

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Buy your 20 cents a round 7.62x39 NOW, or forever hold your piece and enjoy the wallet rape.


next cheapest option for ammo is 45 cents round round.....wew!

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>>34312670
Fuck yeah, Vepr .308 20" ordered today. Looks like I'm going all CSSpecs for extra mags.

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>>34314433
Please don't be real

At least if this is true we will have the full support of almost everyone in the gun community. Even arfags shoot wolf.

Maybe it's time to sell my AKs

I will just BRAAAAP with my scorpion and become a boltgun person or something

>>34314433
That's not the same Wolf, genius.
The Wolf name is an American company, an importer.
They buy ammo from several Russian manufacturers, like Klimosvk.
>They're in Commiefornia
http://www.wolfammo.com

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>>34312670
FUCK.

which is more desirable for vepr 308? 16", 20", or 23"

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>>34314477
Halfway down the page.

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20170620.aspx

>>34314489
Then who the fuck is "defense holding structure Wolf" and how is this sanction going to affect me

>>34314493
16" is too short for .308. 20" and 23" will both give you good velocity, but the marginal gain from 20" to 23" isn't much.

>>34314489

They sanctioned their license to import ammo from russia, wolf is done.

>>34314500
It won't. It's literally a front org for a Russian biker gang.

>>34314512
I want to believe you

>>34312670
F


Really glad I decided to buy my ak last summer.

>>34314520
He's correct, its not wolf importers.

>>34314520
From the press release:
>Wolf Holding of Security Structures is an organization owned by the previously-designated Night Wolves motorcycle club. The company provides martial arts and tactical military courses to foreign military, law enforcement, and Russian-speaking compatriots from European and Asian States. Wolf Holding of Security Structures is being designated for having materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, the Night Wolves.

>>34312901
kvar still has them at below gunrapers prices

>>34314559
>>34314552
Thank you based god

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>>34314559

>>34314505
thanks.

Also guys, where's the best place to get vepr 308 mags

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>wolf is safe

>>34314579
>for now

>>34314578
20 round steelies here:
http://stores.csspecs.com/vepr-308/

>>34314579

for you.

For the guys with veprs in 7.62x39 you may want to pick up a spare extractor, its exclusive to that rifle, and only legion has them atm

>>34314595
thank you!

Alright guys, I'm about to pull the trigger on a vepr 308, 20" for $819.00 + shipping. Will I regret this? I'm planning on throwing it in the safe for 10 years and not firing it. Think it'll be a good investment?

>>34314620
Boy am I fucking glad I didn't go for a special snowflake 6.5 Grendel Vepr.

How hard is it to replace an underfolder stock?
I'm thinking of buying a WASR with one for a little under 500, but that thing looks uncomfortable as shit.

>>34314640
>Will I regret this? I'm planning on throwing it in the safe for 10 years and not firing it.
Just shoot it you stupid fuck. It's an AK. It's not going to be damaged by light use.

So first the slr-104s dry up and now this........ Boy if it were not for the fact that i love collecting surplus rifles I sure would have considered killing myself

>>34314666

they were discontinued due to low demand.

Different 308 fag here. What's a good scope type for a .308 Vepr? I've got a 3-9x40mm I can use, but I've got the budget for nicer glass if that's warranted.

>>34314640
>Will I regret this? I'm planning on throwing it in the safe for 10 years and not firing it. Think it'll be a good investment?

Yes, guns are not good monetary investments.

Shoot your guns

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>>34313730
Why buy a 74u llc if you didn't want historically correct?


Was this a good buy for $68? I don't know Bulgy mags

>>34314640
i dont think so, mags will be expensive and limited options. 7.62x39 will probably be your best bet for long term desirability.

Cuigar and Zastava are the last AK manufacturers exporting to the USA.

Trump should lift the Norinco ban at least.

>>34312670
Fucking hell and I just used my spending money on an optic, mount and ammo.

Would like an VEPR-FM...

>>34314709
>Would like an VEPR-FM...

they all evaporated about a hour ago, your to late.

>>34314708
He's not going to. If we get anything it's going to be more sanctions and import bans.

Anyone that makes parts for these guns will start to dry out. CSpecs, Krebs etc, grab what you need.

>>34314701
It is historically correct, my dumb ass just didn't know until an hour ago.

Just need to get my big fuckoff NV or RPG optic on it and I'll be done.

>>34314433
That's Wolf as in the motorcycle club. Not Wolf as in the ammo dumbfuck. Stop spreading bullshit.

>>34314708
>Trump should lift the Norinco ban at least.
He's been shitting on Chinese manufacturing stealing US jobs for decades. That won't happen.

Wait, what the fuck is this?

>>34314708
Chinese AK's are now fucking shit compared to the stuff we got in the 80's.

Eurofags posted that shit on AKFiles talking about the poor quality.

>>34314818
Isn't this the faggot who pushed the ATF to ban 7n6?

>>34314818
>>34314826
HOW CAN HE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT?

>>34314826
I have no idea who that is but I have a feeling he runs a AK ((("""manufacturing facility"""))) in his basement using only the finest cast parts.

>>34314818
>>34314846
>>34314826
>Destructive Devices Industries, David Fillers,

wew

>>34314818
big words for a guy who's company failed horribly.

>>34314732
Fucking hell youre right, they're flying off the shelves

Just pressed Go on a Vepr FM 5.45

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Good evening /k/. Started a thread, but i'll just ask here. I just purchased a zastava pap m92. Going to sbr it. Which thread adaptor should i get? And why?

Pic related....cnc warrior.

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>>34314921
should I give in to the panic and get a FM in x39? or should I get a 107-11 instead?

>>34314959
Bulgarian AKs are next on the hitlist

>>34314959
The only reason you should be panic buying a VEPR is if you intend to convert it to an RPK, want a Russian-made gun and don't want to pay Saiga prices, or if you actually want a stock VEPR.

If you're just trying to get a quality 7.62x39 AK the SLR-107 will honestly be better for you since you won't have to modify furniture or be restricted to RPK-type furniture.

>>34314921
Is it weird that I still don't really want a vepr? I'd rather spend that money on a really nice correct parts kit build or on ammo for the AKs I already have.

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>>34314973
??????

anon. d-d-don't say that.

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>>34314818
damn I didn't think he would actually do ti

>>34314985
>is if you intend to convert it to an RPK

Exactly how common are loose Russian (or otherwise) pre-Bush ban RPK barrels anyway? That whole thing sounds like a fucking nightmare to get done, not to mention what a folding stock assembly would cost me. Whole reason I gave up on it in the first place.

>>34312321
>tfw panic bought a slr-104 before the election
everything turned out better than expected.jpg

>>34314988
There was a sporting chance of getting factory RPKs, that's gone.

>>34314818
>file deleted

what did it say?

>>34315018
>http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311973
>$1400 shipped

You could always populate your own barrel but honestly there was a reason most of us were just hoping Molot would release complete RPK-74M clones through FIME.

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>>34315034
>>34314818
the fag deleted it, here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkFctTSeilI

Vepr fags BTFO!

>>34315074

this guys a faggot.

>>34315074
That shirt, is he one of us?

>>34315027
That's the only real reason I was so hyped up about Molot bringing new shit in. I've got a slr107 and a 104, I don't really see a place in my safe for a 16" barrel intermediate caliber vepr. I considered the 20" .308 folding stock model but I don't want to get locked into another proprietary magazine. Speaking of which, are they even going to be able to bring in the 10 round molot mags anymore or is CSSpecs the only deal in town for that rifle now?

>>34315040
Yeah, RPKs are neat and I enjoy my AKs, but that's just too much money for me to get interested in a project rifle.

>>34315118
>are they even going to be able to bring in the 10 round molot mags anymore

Everything and anything from molot is banned.

>>34315102
there are plenty of memes that are normie now. but i think the atf joke has always been normie (because its true)

RIP VEPRs. Thanks Trump.

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Ok so who's gonna buy the koolaid so we can get this over with

How is this ban going to affect Russian ammo? Is 5,45 done for? Please, I just bought an SLR-104FR. Someone tell me I'll be okay.

>>34315183

its on a knifes edge, ammo could be sanctioned at any moment.

>>34315183
>>34315203
why would ths affect wolf or golden tiger?

>>34315203
would this include x39, or just 545? I'm wondering about wolf and tula, and perhaps brown bear

>>34315218
Just x39 rest easy

>>34315218

all of it, all calibers.

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guys, i'm genuinely fucking afraid. AK's are one of my favorite interests in my life, and it seems to be disintegrating before my eyes. Any normalfag can build a gucci AR... a shooter who is proficient with a Kalashnikov rifle is a rare thing, and will surely grow exponentially more uncommon. With both Molot and Izhmash gone, Bulgarian AK's are the last decent lineup of rifles being brought into the country. They will now have little to no competition, and naturally prices will skyrocket.

And once Bulgy's get banned, what then? Is this the end of AK's? What will will tell the newfags who want to join us? To buy a RAS-47? How did this happen?

THESE ARE DARK DAYS.

>>34315218
Wolf, bear ammo, academy's monarch brand, all of that is Barnaul. Tula is Tula. Golden Tiger is Vympel.

If Barnaul gets cut off I'm done shooting my AKs. I'm not that old so it's not like I could buy enough to last the rest of my life and I'm not a millionaire so it's not like I could afford to anyway.

>>34315329
Even if Bulgarian rifles come back "eventually" what the fuck is Arsenal US or FIME group going to sell in the meantime? The arex pistol? My main concern is that without rifles to move they don't really have anything to keep themselves profitable and will close up shop.

>>34315343
Arsenal will probably go under, they don't have anything to sell.

>>34315330
>Wolf
>Barnaul
Wolf buys from more than just Barnaul.
They regularly get ammo from Klimosvk as well.

>>34315330
>>34315364
>Tula is Tula
Also, not necessarily true.
Tula has the 8m3 from Ulyanovsk.

>>34315329
The idea that one day all we'll have is Century's Rifle-Shaped-Objects deforms the bolt of my soul.

>>34315382
I think tula's 762x54r is made by Barnaul

>>34315306
I have a feeling that if that happened, the backlash from ar fags and ak fags combined would light a fire under trumps ass even if only slightly.

2x FM-47-11's left at K-Var, get them fast!

This is happening today haha, fuck. Glad I bought one 2 days ago. Sorry for those that miss this boat.

>>34315421
Fuck you Vince.

>>34315392
>And IO
We are forsaken.

Our only hope is that Radom finally gets off their ass and opens up shop here.

>>34315431
If the they finally get ATF approval.

>buy a M&P 15 sport 2 last year since it was cheaper than a wasr, and is more logical for being in the US
>end up regretting big because it's boring and AK's are interesting
>now this happens
>was right
I've never wanted to be wrong so much in my life.

>>34315421
with utmost sincerity, kys faggot

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>AKs are threatened again
>ammo might be too

my friend is literally in the middle of a deal selling an SGL-21 for $1200 he's going through some hard times, was gonna help him build a budget AR to replace it

should i go red alert on his ass and tell him not to sell it now?

>>34315364
Are these headstamped differently? I've never seen anything but Barnaul on the Wolf I've bought but I remember there being some internet forum shitstorm about "mildly corrosive" stuff from Klimovsk a few years ago. I just assumed they stopped sourcing from them.

>>34315382
That's true, not sure how I forgot about that considering I have new production 8m3 loaded in my emergency mags.

>>34315441
Didn't they already give up because it wasn't worth the hassle to them? Last I heard they were denied import by the ATF on everything but some .22lr bullshit.

>>34315421
>4 aks
>2 Bulgarian barrels
>15000 rounds
wish me luck friend

>>34315454
>selling an SGL-21 for $1200
>should i go red alert on his ass and tell him not to sell it now?

He's getting fucked regardless of the Molot sanctions, buy it from him to hold on to if you can.

>i spent like 300+ on a crate of 1400 x39 like 2 weeks ago and havent had the chance to shoot it. what do? save it or choot it un 4th of july
http://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf-or-wpa/1400-round-wood-crate-762x39-123-grain-fmj-barnaul-mil-spec-ammo-spam-cans-lacqu

>>34315427
>>34315452
Mmmmm I paid $550 for it too...

>>34315490
Fuck yeah man! GL on the conversions!

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Now that Vepr is kill, I'm trying to decide whether this is a good idea or not considering ammo being kill is probably right around the corner

>>34315507
I'd stick that in a closet somewhere and buy stuff that isn't spamcanned to shoot through first, honestly.

>>34315519
go for it, worst that could happen is you just shoot it all if the sanction dont happen on ammo

>>34315218
>>34315507
>x39
Stop

>>34315536
what?...

>>34315519
$1000 worth of ammo isn't going to last you very long unless you don't shoot a whole lot and you aren't going to make a lot of that back reselling it to guys with stacks of crates they bought in the 90s.

>>34315536
This
I'm surprised people are even using it considering a week or so ago someone who used it was given a lot of shit.

>>34315538
x39 can refer to at least five different calibers, three of which are available in AKs in the US

>>34315519
>ammo being kill is probably right around the corner

Considering how much 7.62x39 the middle east consumes I think this would fuck over the importers and distributors, American businessmen, more than anyone else. Baby out with the bathwater shit.

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>veprs kill

real fucking pissed

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Is this worth impulse/panic buying?

>>34315563
oh, gotcha... i thought that maybe the link would make it obvious... guess not

>>34315563
>three of which are available in AKs in the US
I must be retarded. 5.45, 7.62x39, and ???

>>34315571
Yes, once they're sold out they'll skyrocket

>>34315571
do it, worst thing that could happen is you just have another gun laying around

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*deep inhale*
FUUUUUUUU

>>34315582
6.5x39/6.5 Grendel

>>34315597
Pretty sure the last one is sitting in my cart. Should I do it /akg/? I don't own any AK type rifles.

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>>34315571

>>34315597
kek, ya gotta be quicker than that

>>34314358
>authentically crooked slavaboo
retard

>>34315582
9x39

>>34312321
Can anybody tell me the going rate on a Molot Vepr in 5.45 with the traditional plum colored synthetic furniture on it?

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With all this news consider that 5.56 AKs are gonna be next on the spot light. Currently waiting on an armslist private seller to get back from what military bullshit to sell me his 104 but now I'm considering just buying a new 106.

>>34315619
in the us fag
>>34315599
ty

>>34315564
I hope to God x39 isn't kill. I'm a self-admitted fudd but I found a good deal on an AMD-65 so I bit the bullet. Now this shit.

>>34315582
6.5 Grendel

>>34315530
>>34315541
I usually get through 1000 rounds of any given caliber within 3 range trips but I'm definitely going to slow down just in case some serious shit goes down regarding ammo

>>34315564
RIP everyone

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>>34315496

what if this "friend" isnt my "friend"

gif related

>>34315647
>I hope to God x39 isn't kill.

It won't just be AK calibers, it'll be .308 and .223 as well. It's going to fuck everyone.

>>34315649
I've already sealed and stored what I have in .50 cans. I've got some loose 5.45 sitting on my dresser but other than that my AKs are going on a diet. Once I've finished buying AUG food I'm going all in on AK ammo and nothing else for a while.

>>34315652
Then fuck him, buy the rifle and keep it.

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>>34315628
5.56 AKs are the masterrace

>>34315603
do it nigger

can anyone explain why all x39 and 545 is expected to dry up?

>>34315647
It'll be all Russian made ammo if they ban ammo imports next.

Fucking hell. I mean I just bought another 1k x39 a few weeks ago but this is shit. I'm trying to save up for a fucking house god damn it now I'm tempted to run out and buy some more steelcase.

>>34315739
why do the 550s never play?
>inb4 they aren't aks

Stop with the ammo panic, if Russian ammo was going to be banned O would have done it in the first round of EO's.

>>34315773
It's not, /k/ is just overreacting as normal. The main reason Molot got smacked at all was because they went bankrupt and Kalashnikov Concern bought up huge parts of the company, so to the State Department they just look like a shell company now.

Barnaul doesn't really have the same connection problem. Vympel might get hit though.

>>34315773
Because we can't just leave the Middle East the fuck alone to implode on it's own or just glass it and be done with it. Neither can the Russians because we're both treating it like a boat, we throw tons of money and blood into it yet somehow it never gets fucking fixed.

Now Putin and Trump are in a cock measuring contest and Congress is blocking Russian businesses in retaliation.

They probably won't ban it, but if they do say goodbye to all the cheap Russian steelcase in every caliber.

>>34315808
what is the point in throwing money in the middle east?

>>34315827
There isn't. I'd be perfectly happy if we just nuked the fucking cube then the rest of the place while they're all chimping out and be done with it. Even the fucking """"""good guys""""""' and """""moderate rebels""""""" are fucking communists.

>>34315647
>>34315773
>>34315775
>x39
STOP

>>34315795
Isnt barnaul russian though? Why would molot get banned for looking like a russian shell company while barnaul wouldnt for being an actual russian one?

>>34315848
x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39 x39

>>34315827
I don't want to get into right now but it rhymes with clues.

>>34315848
Keep cryin' bitch nigga.

>>34315862
nudes? kek i dunno

K-Var has 2 FM-47-11 side folders left, get em while you can!

>>34315874
>nudes rhymes with clues
go back to first grade

>>34315874
JEWS

>>34315854
It isn't everything Russian, it's certain Russian companies. Kalashnikov Concern is owned by Rostec and Rostec is subject to sanctions, and therefore KC gets hit as well

>>34315884
i was sounding it out more like noods desu, nigger

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>>34315885

>>34315894
wtf i typed desu and it auto corrected to desu, im on a laptop. im confused now

>>34315854
I think what he's saying is that the Molot sanctions aren't technically new, they're an extension of the already existing sanctions against Kalashnikov Concern.

>>34315908
new fag detected

>>34315908
gahhhhhh i put t_b_h not desu

>>34315914
new fag detected
kys

>>34315919
you must be 18 to post here

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>>34315894
>>34315908
>>34315914
>>34315930

>>34315908
>>34315919
Get the fuck outta here, go back to R_ddit and take your x39 with you.

>>34315930
>calling me a newfag for calling out a someone that doesn't know about the filter

>>34315942>>34315934
>>34315932
drive off a cliff pleb

>>34315914
>>34315930
>putting a space in newfag

Fuck off

>>34315952>>34315963

no i was just to lazy to do ">"

>>34315912
Exactly. A fair few of the new sanctions had noted that as the reason for being made, including the one on Molot.

>>34315993
>walmart soundtrack

Okay my bitching aside, realistically if trump even gave a shit its not like he could have done anything. Senate agreed 98-2 for increasing sanctions, so even if he said no they could have just overridden his veto.

Still not thrilled with lack of any progress on any pro gun things.

>>34315993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOW5AEdhB2M

>>34315993
listening to nigger music rn. pls dun shill me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ggAvMJx5c

>>34315993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMoajvTVUDI

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>>34315993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWTfl4MJ1c

>>34315441
>>34315478
Its not ATF's fault they cant make a legal import, (shit they had Archers imported with IO) Arsenal Bulgaria and Century does it fine as well as Molot's and Saigas were fine (Until the ban). There is nothing stopping Radom from making a US plant at all besides funds or a will to do so.

>>34315993
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BQQFov79Prs

>>34316009
Yep. Only two people who voted against the sanctions were Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders.

None of this is really Trump's fault, and it doesn't really suggest Barnaul is about to take it on the nose either based on the reasoning for the Molot sanction in the press release.

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>>34315463
>Are these headstamped differently?
Yes.
The Wolf white box from Barnaul has the cyrillic "Gn3" logo on it, as well as on the headstamp.
The Klimosvk Wolf white box has their logo, a tear drop shaped thing with a circle inside, on the box and headstamp.

>>34315993
https://youtu.be/0uV1fxcIGK0

>>34315993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeyfOEb7ET0

so.

who wants to buy some machines and start making milled AKs?

can't be that difficult. everyone and their uncle has a company that makes ARs, these days.

>>34316221
heh *smacks mic* jeb you're a mess

>>34316234
First you have to find someone with milled ak tooling,that isn't clapped out, then someone that wants to sell it.

Good luck with that.

>>34316258
do you really need anything specialized?

can't we just use generic CNC mills and cold hammer forge?

>>34316273
no but it would be a really crude ak

>>34315993
https://youtu.be/2EVRz-dYkBE

Би-2's self titled record is one of my favorites of all time

>>34316273
If it was so easy don't you think someone would have started making decent AK's in the US years ago?

GUYS
WHAT IF
WHAT IF WE GOT TOGETHER AND OPENED OUR OWN AK PRODUCTION AND AMMO SHOP
surely we can compile our neetbux and make something

>>34316300
At the very least it would be better than a RAS.

>>34316294
>>34316279
>>34316258
so we buy russian tooling?

>>34316350
*rubs index and middle finger against thumb

>>34316350
They stopped making milled stuff in like the 60's, then the north koreans and chinese got the tooling probably.

>>34316367
well it isn't like the Russians are going to have much of a market. EU is banning gun ownership. No AKs in Canada. No more exports to the USA. anywhere else that allows civilians to own semi auto rifles, is not even worth it.

>>34316397
true that..

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Is there anything wrong here? Looking at a WASR and saw this rather rusty looking interior.

>>34316397
problem would be finding a person willing to sell all the tooling tho...

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https://youtu.be/W2xd9sNeWC4

>>34316091
Guess who was President when they got denied. It sure wasn't the Orange guy.

Denel land systems pls save us with the galil and uzi tooling you bought from the kikes pls.

>>34316436
I'm sure there is a crossdressing old tripfag that knows people in Russia.

>>34316462
yeah, or an old izmash factory worker with connections i bet

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>>34316397
I think you're forgetting something.

New thread

>>34316482

>>34316482

>>34316482

>>34316451
Ah yes, the president was looking over all the import requests and denied poland and not Bulgaria or Romania

>>34314701
Great buy. Those mags never gave me an issue for 12 years

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>>34312670
HAHAHAHA I HAVE MY VEPR COMING IN TOMORROW HAHAHAHA

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>>34314001
Is that a Weegie cat?