/akg/ AK General

>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

>>33760980
I have actually seen a lot of conflicting information on whether or not it is legal to remove import marks

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The approved mags by /k/

>>33761098
I read mugs and was damn confused for a minute

>>33761089
Technically you're destroying identifying marks which has always been illegal on a firearm AFAIK, but if you scrub it good is anyone really going to know?

>>33761118
The wording of the law only concerns defacement of the serial number I believe

>>33761118
i think it is illegal, unless you do (SBR) paper work then you can have to put your name on the sbr ect

>>33761149
I'm fairly certain this is correct since your trunnion serial and receiver serial don't have to match. If you're turning it into an SBR though, you're expected to have the importer and manufacturer information on the receiver.

>>33761149
Might be worth writing a letter to the ATF, a quick google search pulls up at least Illinois and Ohio who have it written in state law that defacing and letter or number from importer or manufacturer marks is committing a crime

I'd have to spend more time to find federal laws if any on it, I've just always been under the impression that messing with any marks is technically a crime. But again if you did it clean and refinished over it who the fuck would know?

>>33761089
Anon from last thread. I'd like to see something about that.

To my knowledge, imported firearms had to maintain import markings of the company that imported the firearm and the city it was imported. Not sure if that changes anything when you engrave it for a Form 1. Technically you would become the manufacturer, so I could see where they'd allow that info to be removed.

Might have to write the ATF about it for clarification. If I can have it removed, or even replaced to the bottom of the receiver, that'd make the rifle look all the better.

>>33761149
and yet Trump has done nothing for gun rights
when will you dumb Nazis learn that Drumpf doesn't give a shit about you he lied to you all to get elected

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sooo...this came in the mail today...should I just try it out?

>>33761224
Use it as a target.

>>33761199
California also has a law prohibiting removing any identifying markings, and there is a federal law about transferring firearms between states that have had markings removed. But I can't find a federal law that prohibits a person from removing markings from his own firearm, excluding the S/N.

>>33761199
Colorado seems to be coming up with the same state law too. It says defacing and importer or manufacturer "identifying mark" which could be limited to the serial or be as broad as the way they do rivets I guess

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>>33761237
You're the guy that said that when I first announced I bought this not knowing how shit this brand is, right?

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>>33761254
Nope.

If you didn't know you didn't know.

But now you know.

Niggaaaaa

>>33761224
TulAmmo and Promag. Jesus

>>33761272
Nice biggie reference

>>33761280
what's wrong with tulammo???

>>33761272
What handguard?

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>>33761299
AK-9.

>>33761249
Well regardless of federal law I guess I just found this http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-160.2.pdf

Maybe your best course... Would be to tread lightly

>>33761311
And here's the expanded version https://www.atf.gov/file/58506/download

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SHOULD I RETURN THIS PIECE OF SHIT PROMAG MAGAZINE OR KEEP IT FOR A RANGE MAG?

>>33761309
How well does it fit on your hand? Looks kinda tiny.

>>33761311
>with the intent thereby to conceal or misrepresent
What if that's not my intent :^)

Well at least that simplifies things. Cucked by NC again

>>33761348
Range mag so you can practice malfunction clearing

>>33761348
If you can return it and it's cost-effective to do so, then do it.

Alternatively, wait until 2020 and sell it in the pre-election panic.

>>33761357
F

At least your AK never got import marks and all this was just a hypothetical situations anyways :^^ Can't wait to see your AK-104

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>>33761355
Same as a normal handguard.

I sorta use the foregrip like pic related.

Fits me good.

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>>33761366
It would only put ten bux in my pocket...

fuck, I hate buying shit.

>>33761398
Use this as a lesson to research brands before you buy.

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>>33761390
You've got a lot more space to go forward so you can give your mags space to move
t. does the same exact thing

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>>33761409
yep, I'm going to use this list that /k/ cobbled together.
>>33761098

>>33761390
best grip

Both my Scorpion and AR are set up that way. Too much of a purist to put that on my AK though.

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>>33761098
>polish
>good
Disregarded

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>>33761450
HERE WE GO!

It appears we have some controversy here. In the last thread, the anons agreed that Polish is dependable. What do you all say in changing the list for the Polish category? So they aren't durable, huh?

>>33761450
Polish steel milsurp AKM mags are good.

>>33761450
I think that list is talking strictly about 7.62 mags. For 5.45 there's almost no reason to buy anything but Russian, Bulgarian, or East German mags at this point unless you want to collect mags from different places.

>>33761218
He got rid of that SS shit Obama put in. He has a bunch of other shit to handle first you CTR shill.

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>tfw none of my 7.62x39 guns have a side rail
Thinking about getting one installed on my vz but I doubt if it'll work with my Obzor

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>>33761501
7.62 mags are alright, but a lot of them are refinished and need to be sanded down fromw hat I hear

5.45 Polish mags will feed alright but the steel mags are a PITA and the polymer ones have shitty durability compared to Russian/Bulgarian

>>33761527
I know, I'm just memeing since Polish 5.45 mags are somehow so terrible

will an AKM gas tube fit on my AMD-63?

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HOLY SHIT

YOU FUCKS WERE RIGHT.

I just sweated my fucking ass off.
>try to put in the promag
>gets stuck
>my poor rifle
>plastic sand just starts grinding out
>test it two more times when I pull it out and see if it was user error
>every fucking time, doesn't even click
>got SO FUCKING PISSED I even threw away the plastic magpul the rifle first was sold with
>test my rifle to see if it isn't fucked with a chinese mag
>chinese mag is heavy, well made, and slides in like butter


FUCK THESE PIECES OF SHIT AREN'T EVEN GOING TO BE GRACED WITH BEING USED AS TARGET PRACTICE. I AM JUST TOSSING THESE PIECES OF PLASTIC SHIT IN THE TRASH.

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>>33761602

>>33761554
>>33761527
I put the disclosure on the top. This is correct. This is for 7.62x39 only.

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>>33761641

>>33761602
Now I'm worried about my saiga with all of the tapco mags I was given as part of the package.

>>33761559
No

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>>33761665
fuck tapco, magpul, pmag, promag, or any of those plastic piece of fuck makers.

Why did Cabela's sell me a fucking NPAP with a fucking plastic magazine? Why the fuck would they do that?

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>>33761042
Any chance of getting these imported after the war?

>>33761726
is that the only quality product that can come from best korea?

>>33761726
Looks like a knockoff of the Chink OICW, I have doubts it even works

so it looks like the fixed stock slrs are out of stock everywhere
anyone have experience with the new veprs?

>>33761559
Yes, with some pretty intense modification. Google the interwebs for instructible.

>>33761665

>have 10 tapco mags
>required sanding in order to fit in magwell
>oh god what am I in for
>they fit, finally
>don't wobble
>they feed flawlessly, never once had an issue

I wouldn't buy them again but I have them now and they work. It's not the end of the world.

>>33761559
The short gas tube is for an AMD65. There is no AMD63, there is a AKM63 but it takes a standard length naked gas tube.

If it's the short AMD-65 gas tube with handguard ferrules you want, Khyber Customs makes one.

https://www.khybercustoms.com/collections/furniture/products/amd-65-converted-gas-tube

>>33762178
Mine wobble, however. But they all do fit at least.

>>33762222
>there is no AMD63
Huh, I've always heard it as an AMD63 instead of an AKM63

>>33761501
The Polish steel surplus magazines are God-tier. I bought 20.

>>33762340
The blued ones are.
The poorly painted ones AIM has, not so much.

>>33761224
Please Remember Our Mags Are Garbage

>>33761098
So does this mean Croatian made AK mags are good now?

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Slabside best mag

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>>33762294
He's talking about what the hungarian military called it. To them it's the akm-63. Civilian versions sold in the US are referred to as AMD63 for some reason.
It's like when someone mentions bakelite mags and some sperglord feels compelled to make sure everyone knows that bakelite mags aren't actually made of bakelite.

Just imagine this guy correcting you about something and you'll get the idea.

>>33761665
Tapco mags are more durable and cheaper then magpuls. If you brake the locking tab they will replace the mag. It's worth it to have a few for range use. I use them for emergency reload drills. They are slightly wider them combloc forcing you to load squarely.

>>33761098
>Yugoslavian up for debate

Is this a fucking joke? They are excellent mags, only downside is the last round BHO shit and it's a non issue.

>>33763097
where are you taking your photos for that nice lighting

thoughts on this?

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/zastava-n-pap-underfolder-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>33762977
I just copy/pasted that from the AK Forum, wasn't trying to sperg.
It was more to say they're 2 different lengths.
AKM-63 will take a standard length gas tube, AMD-65 won't.

>And "bakelite" mags aren't bakelite, faggot.

>>33763149
That one is not my photo

If you're talking about my krink photos, in the shade of my house on a concrete pad on a sunny day. Sunny day in the shade means good diffused lighting. Also with a real camera, the larger objective lens means it can capture more light.

>>33763252
My parents' house, not my house, trying to train myself out of that

>>33761767
The adjustable gasblock is nice in the new veprs. Mine is in .30-06 and I hear it's in some of the 7.62x54r. I have no idea about other calibers.

>>33762977
so lets just make sure because I'm still retarded

standard akm gas tubes ~WILL~ fit on my AMD63/AKM63 or whatever the fuck you want to call it

>>33763367
If you have a 63, yes, it should.
Like all parts, it might need some fitting.

>>33763470
alright sick, thanks mate

I decided to buy a set of pic related for my '74. I saw a set in unissued shape on feebay for $50 and got it, coming from Russia of course. How did I do guys?

>OT: Chimps' 69 kit gives me a hard on

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>>33763540
rip forgot photo

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When are we going to be able to get those sweet, sweet spurdo variants?

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>>33763561
Those flecks on the stock are pretty sexy.

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>>33763540
>>33763561
Bretty damn good

That pic was not my 69 kit btw, that was Tantal's actually, this one is mine

>>33762488
it says croatian mags are shit and tight fit. Can you read?

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Did the Germans ever make AK mags?

>>33763843
Hello newfriend

>>33763174
Solid gun. Go for it.

>>33763843
No. They made aks but never got to use them because of the magazine issue.

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>>33763620
Thanks. I'm thinking about going for a late 80s or maybe later vibe with my 74, as I already have a laminate furniture AK (AKM). I have plenty of Russian mags and a mustard dual carabiner sling I plan on putting on. For shits and giggles I also have a russian grenade pin I plan on putting on the cleaning rod as seen in pic related. Allegedly this was done during the Afghan war as an aid in the removal of the cleaning rod.

>>33763540
>>33763561
$50 is a great price for russian plum. ya dun gud boy!

>>33763843
The East Germans did if that's what you are referring to.

EG AK-74 magazines used to be a dime a dozen. They were identical to Russians sans the arsenal mark (the only markings were a mold number)

EG AK-47-AKM magazines usually were blued, although I have seen parkerized mags as well. I have a blued East German magazine in my collection.

>>33763881
why would there be an issue if you can just make them?

>>33763912
whoosh

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For six years I've shot only chinese mags, and they are perfect.
Why the fuck would anybody pay these 'tismal prices?
170-190 dollars lel. Wanna know how many decent mags I can buy with that kind of cash?

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>>33763936
It seems like everyone here in USA charges an arm and a leg for anything Russian or Bakelite when it comes to AKs.

(Pic is my Tantal conversion with an East German stock set)

>>33764113
Why though? shit doesn't make sense
>muh cool russian shit
is prob why

>>33764148
They probably seek the fools who like to throw their money at them for any mag no matter the charge. Some cannot walk away from a fool and his money, friend. Either that or the Obama sanctions could be compelling people to try and make a quick buck because people are losing their shit like the people did after Sandy Hook back in '12. They think everything from Russia is going to be banned from import. Utterly preposterous.

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Can anyone help me ID this drum?
My gf gave it to me for my birthday. I'm pretty sure it's Korean

1/2

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>>33764254
2/2

>>33764254
>>33764266
And anything I should know about these?

>>33764254
It's Korean. She tried.

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>>33763936

Are you really worried about what other people spend their money on?

>pulling prices from gunbroker that are on their last hours with no bids

You're a fucking idiot.

>>33763810
Just making sure my eyes aren't failing me, friendo.

>>33764283
Even being Korean, I think she did a good job. I didn't give her any ideas. Anything to look out for with this drum?

>>33764364
see if it works. korean mags are VERY hit or miss

>>33764372
Hit or miss in terms of feeding? or?

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So here's my misfit mag bag
the first one is the running joke of my decision to purchase promag. I'll bring it with me to show people how fucking horrible it is when I go to the range.

Second is the bullshit pmag they gave me wit the rifle when I bought it.

Third is worst korea mag. Does good though. Nice click, sturdy, strong.

Fourth is my 40rnd baby. The chinese sex box. That thing is well made.

When I am with more paychecks, I'm just going to hunt more chinese shit. Those shoot amazingly.

>>33761098
Parkerized grey S. Korean mags are shit but the regular black steels are good to go. (at least the 30rds are)

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>>33764819

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>>33764863
eghh don't like my wording. Here's better.

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What AK is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtiUzPsYzQg at 6:44

>>33764922
sar-1?

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Ok, random ass question. Nobody I know has an answer, or at least one that makes sense.

Pic related is an e-mail I got from a gunsmith FFL that I had sent my blown up AK to. I don't know which option to go for, or if there's a third option.

Anyone care to weigh in on which and why?

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Just got a membership at a private range that goes out to 300 yards. Finally I have a home range. Pic is at the 100 yard line

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>>33764968
What ak blew up?

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>>33764982
Nice. I took my lady friend to the range today, let her shoot a couple .22's and she shot my NHM 90 and my Type 56 SKS. She was doing really well with the .22's but she hated the underfolder stock on the NHM.

I also shot my Astra 600 today, it's as bad as I've read about.

>>33764982
This post is giving me deja vu

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Just got a membership at a private range that goes out to 300 yards. Finally I have a home range. Pic is at the 100 yard line

>>33764968
>AK
>not fixing it yourself with an old roofing hammer
why even have an AK?

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>>33765164
An 80% receiver build I went through in a rush and didn't headspace and/or other shit just right.

This pic was the night before the test fire, after it successfully chambered and extracted a round from the mag. No, the slant brake isn't correct, I just slapped it on for the pic.

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>>33765175
Your rifle makes my dick hard.

>>33765262
Did you learn your lesson ?

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>>33765344
No, he's still dumping money into it when he should have bought a decent AK to begin with.

>>33765344
That's why I sent it to someone with tools, knowledge, and an FFL.

The question still remains, as I had asked in the first place.

>>33764968
buy a factory ak or learn into build

>>33765391
What parts kit ?
Is there anything worth saving ?

>>33765262
>didn't headspace

What the FUCK is wrong with you? Literally get a GO & NO-GO gauge you dumbass.

>>33764968
I'd say option one would be best if you want to preserve as much of your kit as possible.

If time and labour are your concerns, option two would be better. However ij the end it's your call anon

>>33765184
I posted that pic on Sunday when I was there. I was supposed to get the membership a few weeks ago but plans fell through, I'm pretty sure I posted something about it then

>>33765320
As your rifle does for me.

Is there a way to put a thumbhole on a PSA build?

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>>33765429
Polish. No idea about the rest.

>>33765428
No shit, Sherlock. I fucked up the former, and now I'm trying to fix it.

>>33765432
Lesson learned. I just used a dummy round instead.

>>33765433
Fucking thank you. The first actual advice given to a question asked. Do you think it would balance out with price a bit? $80/hr for labour, and instead of a headspaced and populated barrel priced at god knows what, just getting a $100ish barrel to work with?

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>>33765552
What parts need replacing ?

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>>33765509
I'm not sure. I would assume You could but it might be a loose fit around the edges. The MAK-90 receivers are 1.6mm thick, so standard AKM furniture has to be filed to fit it, which might mean that the stocks made for the MAK would be a little roomier than AKM stocks. Also when it comes to the MAK stocks, If I remember correctly, there are different stocks for the slant cut receivers and square cut. If you wanted to try to fit one on, you would need a stock made for the square cut. You can sorta see it in this picture.

>>33765594
The receiver, to start, hence the store bought 100% receiver I included in the box with the blown one. Probably also a barrel, MAYBE a front trunnion. Definitely a barrel retaining pin, because the one they sent was the wrong size and I made something work. Yes, I'm now aware that was fucking stupid.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7hygokfukfra2qm/340dce45-eea8-4d78-a023-07cb02ca5dfc.mp4?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvyk3rt6mbp02qs/3e816d13-0e42-46a9-bfbc-679db9677489.mp4?dl=0

I can say I learned a fuckload more by blowing it up than by doing something 100% by the book and told what to from start to finish. I can also say I would have saved a lot of money by doing it that way.

5.45?!
5.45!!!
FIME?!?!?!?

>ket
>2pen
>bear br0s

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>>33765702

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Looking to get a side mount for my AK74, is the Midwest Industries picitany mount good? I'm looking to put a Vortex Strike Eagle or some sort of 1-6 power scope

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>>33765783
Arsenal sm13 mount.

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I know it's /not an AK/ but man I love my vz.58 so much. Every time I shoot my Egyptian or Chinese AK I regret inside that I didn't bring my vz, and when I bring all of my 7.62x39 guns out I always end up focusing on the vz. Just taking it out of the safe and fondling it brings me more happiness than fondling any of my other guns (tied with SLR104fr tho)

>>33765947
Flandre also says he likes 7.62x39 best out of a VZ

I've never even touched one myself, not sure I've ever even seen one in person

>>33765866
Any better or same as MWI mount?

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>>33765947
Disappointed I wasn't able to get in on them when they were cheap. I love the look of them.

>>33766047
Its lighter, ive been using mine for a couple years now. I like the ability to mount any optic without a proprietary piece like the RS systems.

>>33766088
Something to think about, thanks anon

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>>33765552
The price sounds fair enough as is. When it comes to getting something you put your time, money, blood, sweat, and tears into, every penny is worth saving it IMO. This is coming from a kit builder myself. It may sound extreme for me to say such a thing but it is my honest opinion, something we are all entitled to.

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>>33765947
Love mine too. Those Czechs knew what they were doing when they made these things.

>>33766191
So...have more labor and fewer new parts, or have less labor and more prebuilt parts?

Trying to hunt down a Russian or Romanian y stamp barrel, what are some good places to look?

>>33761726
Everyday it seems like the Norks have some new weapon that may or may not actually function

>>33766213
Mfw I passed on one

>>33764273
you need to wind them up when they are full there is a video on it just look up chinese ak drum on youtube

>>33766219
Original barrel Romy G kits or Wasr 10/63s

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>>33766025
It's just a really nice rifle, sure there are things that AKs do better but there are also things that the vz does better. Admittedly mine has a welded on muzzle extension to meat OAL (original barrels are .6" shy of 16") so I don't know how well they'd shoot with a proper brake but without a brake it's no worse than an SKS (and it's just 7.62x39 so it isn't like recoil is that bad to begin with). I've owned a lot of guns over the years and none other than my SLR come close to giving me the warm fuzzies that this rifle gives me

>>33766051
I regret not buying a few of the Century ones when they were like $400 with a ton of extras but it isn't that big of a deal. I'm just happy I have mine and made the choice to get it when I did (chose it over an SGL 21, regret not getting an SGL but I'm also glad I didn't have to pay $1200 for a Czechpoint today)

>>33764968
Send it off to a profession AK builder you dumb fag

>>33766219
>>33766272
I saw an original barrel Romy G kit on the files today, maybe check there

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>>33766290
>who the fuck do you think i sent it to

>>33766216
It's your call. If it was my rifle I'd go with the former to keep it as original as possible

>>33766310
$80 an hour is fucking insane. Your average FFL holder isn't skilled enough to build and AK right. Unless it's something they specialize in don't let them build your rifle for you you stupid fuck. I mean, Two River Arms only charges $65 an hour to fucking fabricate parts and do rewelds.

Is it wrong that I am literally and I mean LITERALLY turned on when I click a heavy surplus magazine in a AK? Like, holy shit. It's better than the feeling of putting rounds in a revolver and dumping the old casings out

>>33766355
It's California, and he does specialize in AK shit.

>>33766341
Thanks man.

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>>33766725
>california

>>33766750
Man that reaction image is hilariously brutal

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>>33766725
>It's California,

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>>33763582
you had yours in the 80's, valmet's and sako's factories are closed permanents on those RK's and their civvie versions

>>33763936
>AKM 74 KRINKOV

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HEIL HITLER

Chimps how are your balls feeling? Did my energy heal you?

>>33766925
Dude, get off Chimps' nuts.

>>33766925
Since when did people start calling mouth energy?

>>33766725
>he does specialize in AK shit

That why he needs a pre-drilled barrel?

>>33766916
>Serbian rifle
>meme Nazi flag

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>>33767245

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I broke the lower handguard retainer lever on my ak. Bought a new one but cant get it in. Do i need a vice? What do, ive tried to hammer it in similar to how i hammered the broken one out and ive already chewed up a side on it.

I just want to shoot my ak without having to deathgrip the handguard because its not secured, my pursuit of happiness.

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>>33765947
If I had to pick one rifle forever, and for sure if limited to 762x39, that'd be it. I love how it works mechanically, both stock styles, and I love using stripper clips.
Now if they only came in bigger calibers... they'd be the ultimate fun machine.
>>33766278
>regret not buying a few of the Century ones when they were like $400
Yeah, you missed out. So did I since I'd love a complete beater gun to toss around between farm vehicles. A friend of mine has one and it's not quite as nice all around, but it still does 99% of the same things at it's core.

>>33767443
>I broke the lower handguard retainer lever
How the fuck do you even do that?

>>33767443
Post pics

>>33768049
Turd Update

Big WASR = RPK
WASR = WASR
Small WASR = Draco
Mini WASR = Mini Draco
Micro WASR = Micro Draco
Long WASR = PSL
Pyramid WASR = MAADI
Kielbasa WASR = Polish
Goulash WASR = Hungarian
Genocide WASR = Yugo
Fancy WASR = Arsenal
Yellow WASR = Chinese
Kosher WASR = Israeli
Bumpy WASR = East German
Pekka WASR = Finnish
Pseudo WASR = vz.58
Homebrew WASR =Kit Build
Real Fuckin WASR = .308 VEPR
Nugget WASR = 7.62x54r VEPR
Fat WASR = 7.62x39 VEPR
Space WASR = AK-12
Scatter WASR = Vepr/Saiga 12g
Shit WASR = Murican

>>33768051
That was fast. Faggot

>>33768054
Copypasta. Fellow Faglord

>>33768054
https://pastebin.com/FSCzcjn7

>>33768068
The thread was dead and then within a minute of me posting that file you replied

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>>33768077
Some people refresh game is just on point

>Tfw 40 years from now everyone starts getting with the fucking russian times postmodernizing their AKs, ditching all this cold war caveman turd world replica shit


If I was sticking to wood and irons I'd just get the sks. Too bad everything is no longer cheap now, so owning mosins and sks are terrible decisions that should be displaced.

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>>33768077
/akg/ is never dead.
Just filled with lurkers, especially at this hour.

>>33768077
I refresh every 5 minutes or so. I'm very bored at work tonight. And I had the copypasta on my desktop from when the big WASR meme was still fresh

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>>33768120
>If I was sticking to wood and irons I'd just get the sks
Polymer AKs are more interesting t b h. I like seeing the Valdai holos on AKs especially

>>33768131
Same

>>33768120
Post your AK

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>>33768122
>>33768127
Do you late late lurkers recognize me? I post my shit probably every fifth thread or so. Nothing too special, just curious if my old pictures are posted frequently enough to be remembered.

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>>33768142

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>>33768142
>>33768147
That's a nice fuckin plum my guy

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>>33768149
I have a lot.

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>>33768168
>tfw only two
At least they're both good

>>33768186
All plums are good plums. Just like all J*ws are uh

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>>33768193
True

I need to take more sunlight pics of my Izzy though, it's really hard to capture just how dark this fucker is

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>>33766916

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>>33768193
>>33768196
As a 7.62fag, I'm kind of jealous of your plums.
The only plums we have are extremely hard to find and expensive.
>Even ((10)) plums are pricey when they can be found.

>>33768217
The only answer here is to get a second AK
>tfw was on the edge of getting another ak as well

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>>33768137
Sure, not recent but not much has changed besides adding kobra to the left one

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>>33768196
I need to get myself a triangle and some Russian plum furniture. The black arsenal stuff looks wrong with my plum mags.
>>33768217
Get a 74 then faggit. You won't regret it.

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>>33768244
Cause black arsenal is more of a grayish. I have a pic somewhere of my factory arsenal furniture next to my Russian black

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>>33768259
You're not wrong.

>>33768220
>get a second AK
I have 4.

>>33768244
I'm just not interested in a 74 currently.
Not really sure why, just not my thing at this point.

>>33768270
>I have 4.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I've only got the money for either one new gun or a shitton of shiny new accessories, I need to settle on something

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>>33768270
>muh feefees
Have you even handled one let alone shot one?

>>33768270
>Only 4
I wish i knew how to save my money that well. I think im at 10 now.

>>33768279
>those curtains
What are you doing in a persians house?

>vympel 5.45 coming in not from golden tiger

Awwwww yis

>>33768298
Yup.

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>mfw my waffle mag is out for delivery today

>>33768348
Inb4 stolen off your porch

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/ak47-bake-lite-style-stock-set-detail.html?Itemid=0

is this furniture any good?

>>33768377
No

>>33768377
That palm swell looks fucking atrocious. What were they thinking?

>>33768370
It'll be in a mailbox. Not a porch.

>>33768384
what is some good bakelite furniture for my WASR?

if the answer is none, what is some good wood furniture where the finish won't boil out of it if i shoot it too fast

>>33768391
WBP Polish laminate.

>>33768403
got any links ? can't find any where to buy any

>>33768431
http://armsofamerica.com/newpolishlaminateakwoodstocksetwpistolgripbywbpspecialintroductoryprice9995-1.aspx

>>33768431
You can find unfinished sets floating around on feebay.

>>33768435
thanks, just got my tax return and i plan on getting a WASR 10 and some nice furniture for it

>>33768497
Not owing. Shit I remember those days

>>33768608
>hurr durr >not owing
Wins the award for the most obnoxious thing anyone can say when talking about income tax. Why don't you just cut to the chase and say, "I'm rich?" That's obviously the message you're trying to communicate, why not just be straightforward with what you're trying to say?

>>33768663
Not him, but consider this:

You don't have to be rich to wind up in a tax bracket that takes more money than had been taken since last year.

In the last year:
Employer didn't downsize
Got married
Got a promotion (I now make a whopping $10/hr)
Joint filed with wife (also making $10/hr)

All that made me suddenly owe ~$1k, when before I would usually get back $200 or so.

Am I poor? Am I rich? Or, am I just trying to get by?

>>33768663
I'm not rich. I just don't make shit wages

>>33768749
That's correct, but the way he worded it implies that hadn't received a tax refund in a very long time.

>>33768764
Most millionaires don't consider themselves rich either. It's all relative. The purpose of your post was for the sole reason of saying that you make a lot of money. It was a boast and you know it.

>>33768802
I really don't make that much. I'm just not a poor fucking idiot that instantly spends money on useless shit the second i get paid.Try investing. Interest income really fucks your return.

>>33763141
>downside
that's an upside, at least for me
I guess it's down to personal preference
but the fuckers feed and don't break

>>33761296
excluding the 8m3 "Effect" stuff that's come in recently, it's underpowered and dirty

>>33765783
that's a violation of the Civil Rights Act
also it's really, really bad for our community to exclude people based on name/ethnicity alone

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>>33768259
I don't know if my Russian HGs and PG are a lighter shade or if my Arsenal stock is a darker shade but mine match considerably better than the few pics you have of yours side by side. You can only really tell they're not quite the same shade in direct light and even then only if you're really looking for it. The only pics I have where you can tell they're a different shade is this one and one other one from the same day. I don't know if I just lucked out or if I'm super oblivious and it doesn't match but I was super nervous about it not matching when I bought them and was considering buying a Russian stock and rigging it up to fit

>>33768077
4chan has an autorefresh functionality that alerts when there are new posts

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what's the deal with Toth Tool mags?

are they worth the $25?

http://www.tothtool.com/762x39-30rd-AK-Magazine--Steel-Reinforced-Polymer-_p_58.html

>>33769018
They're ((10)) clones for less than the real deal.
One of the only good US made AK mag, full steel reinforcements and locking lugs.
>Too bad they're rarely in stock and when they are, they sell out again almost immediately.
They need to do bigger runs of them.

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alright /akg/, ARfag here. I just saw an IO Ak with fagpul furniture posted for $500. Should I offer $400 or is an IO just a shitpiece to stay away from?

>>33769179
Also has an Arsenal Bolt in it according to the seller

>>33769179
You should pay the full $500. At that price, it's a steal!

Talk me out of buying a fixer-upper SKS off J&G with my tax return.

>>33769187
I've bought and sold enough shit to know to never pay the asking price. I'm gonna offer $400 I just don't know anything about IO. I don't want to get stuck with a paperweight

>>33769212
You'll get stuck with a paperweight. Don't take it, unless he also agreed to suck your dick

>>33769223
Are they really that bad? what should I look out for?

>>33769212
don't do it famalam.
i.o is garbage

>>33769212
You're gonna be stuck with a paperweight

>>33769185
Then it won't headspace, you can't just swap bolts. Either the seller is full of shit trying to make a sale or he's a retard

>>33769230
Refer to this >>33761050

But in general, if you want your own "my first AK", the WASR-10 is the default choice.

>>33769185
yeah that's a big hell no. AKs headspace based on the barrel depth in the front trunion. In order to get a new bolt headspaced you'd have to either pray to jesus you get lucky, or drill out the rivets on the front trunion, press or pull the barrel, and then re-rivet it in place. It's a lot more bullshit than it's worth for an AK that you're probably going to end up paying $400 - $450 for. Just spend a couple extra hundred and get an Vepr.

Just how shit are Worst Korea drums? It's a back loader.

I'm trading an SSAK-47 slidefire stock that was already on my RPK when I bought it for one. Been wanting a drum for my rpk so this will work to mess around with until I order a Romy drum.

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>>33769334
Absolutely a crap shoot. You would be better of selling the slidefire.

>>33768186
You want to change that? I need to downsize my plum collection by a few, I think.

>>33766888
>valmet's and sako's factories are closed permanents on those RK's and their civvie versions
closed permanently? so we'll never see them hit the market, and whats already available is all we are going to see?

>>33770075
pretty much

>>33770012
Not him but how much would you sell them for?

>>33770322
Probably $45 or so a piece, or if you buy multiple I'd drop it down to $40 a piece.

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I want to buy a plum from you, anon. Just one. I have money this coming friday. Can I give you my junk email to do business with you? I only have two aluminum mags and want a quality one

>>33770481
For
>>33770388

>>33770388
Get fucked dude, $45 is fucking ridiculous. You can find them on the files for $30 all day. Fuck if you wanna play roulette with the condition you can get them from legionusa for $26

>>33770497
But if you buy multiple you'll only pay $10 above market price and maybe get $20 flat rate shipping. You can't lose

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>>33770388
get fucked, jew.

used plums sell for $20 on akfiles, $30 for brand new ones.

Hell, aimsurplus sells brand new Izhevsk plums for $33 a piece, if you buy 5.

Where can I get vepr furniture that doesn't look like ass?

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What's in the box , car edition

>>33770644
Mags?

>>33770388
This faggot isn't me. I'm not trannyward, for fuck's sake.

>>33770322
Probably $25 or so. I'll have to see what and how many I'm willing to let go of later tonight.

>>33770624

Get a handguard retainer, AK gastube and then AK furniture ( have to sand it inside because day barrel ).

>>33770497
>>33770612
>>33770621
>>33770659
lole troled xxddd u got troled lmfaoo

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>>33770651
Nope

>>33770683
60 lb of meat

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>>33770816

It be stock.

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>>33761042
My saiga 223/556. Bought for $425 back in 2010. Also some afghan AK tape i brought back from afg.

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>>33770859
phone problem sorry

>>33770870
What magwell is that? Does the paddle mag release cam the AR release? That would be cool.

>>33770893
This is one of the old Magnolia State Armory adapter. The AK paddle just releases the adapter but you can see where you press down on the adapter to release the PMAG.

>>33770859
Honestly man, stolen Valor gets praised on this board. Besides the world not caring you went, no one on here sure as shit wont. Before you go on a muh service rampage, afg vet here.

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>>33770967
>Honestly man, stolen Valor gets praised on this board. Besides the world not caring you went, no one on here sure as shit wont. Before you go on a muh service rampage, afg vet here.

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It's here

Holy mother of BFPU

>>33771138
Damn. Far from NOS but nice wear pattern. How much?

>>33771236
$54 from Legion

>>33771278
You could've snagged a minty one for the same price.

>>33770659
My plums are between $20-30

You sir can get fucked. ;)

>>33770674
Quality troll amigo!

>>33770967
Thats cool bro, i didnt say i served. I just visited for a week.

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>>33770967
Lol

>>33771385
I would rather pay him more per mag than to give your retarded ass any of my hard earned shekels, friendo

inb4 omg ur so butt hurt lolol

>>33771456
You're a bit off the mark. It's actually going to be about he totally doesn't give a fuck that you think that, because he just totally doesn't give a fuck at all, no fucks given, yet he still took the time to address your post rather than just ignore it.

>>33771431
Not him butwho the fuck would visit that shithole? Unless you're from there? How was getting painted up and raped by older men as a ceremony

>>33770967
fucking pog

>>33771527
Damn. Someone on this board can actually spell it right.

>get 2 new AKM bakelites
>insert into Maadi
>have to apply leverage against mag release to get them out just like every mag I've gotten except a Koreashit one
>probably have to file the rear lug on these too
>file file file
>mags are now sticking even HARDER

What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>>33771524
I honestly just wanted to see what was up. Pretty exciting to say the least

>>33771614
>not filing the mag catch itself

>>33771614
Using a shitty papyrus gun

>>33771614
Pics of the maadis mag catch?

>>33771651
>what not to do.

>>33771658
sure, let's file each and every single mag, instead mag catch once.

>>33770012
I'm good mate, thanks for the offer though. I think I'm gonna spend my insurance money on finally getting my 16 inch FAL

>>33768986
Arsenal probably has some variety in their polymer just like the Russians do. For example my AK9 doesn't actually quite my match my other furniture. But I'm also autistic as all fuck about things being perfect and always notice little things. Remember my off center zigzag?

Someone on the Files has 67 Bulgarian oil bottles for $25. I'm tempted to buy them. What can I possibly do with 67 oil bottles?

>>33764113
God I hate that stock. I really want to like it, but I just can't. Sorry, mate.

>>33771651
>>33771658
>>33771673
I think there may be a burr on the mag release lever, now that I inspected it. I can feel a tactile "click" beyond the normal lock operation when inserting a mag, and all my mags that required filing (i.e., everything except 1 Russian, the Korean, and a PMAG) have a clear point of wear in the middle of the bottom side of the locking lug.

I took a very thin sanding sponge I used from my BattleTech mini days and ran it over the surface of the mag catch that would hit the lugs there. Suddenly the first bakelite started operating smoothly, then a bit more sanding and the other one got smoother too.

I'll play around with it more later, but it'll be hard to say whether or not it's actually making a real difference until I order more mags.

>>33771625
Sounds hott

>>33771456
>>33771476
I respond because I am cancer. Besides I love that I am still being brought up when not present. Thanks for keeping me relevant. Also I don't care about you buying from me. There are more than enough buyers out there and all your hate in the world amounts to 0.00

My jimmies are oh so rustled.

>>33771456
>>33771476

I think its hilarious you kids are talking shit about BakesRus. You wouldn't say this shit to him irl, he's jacked. Not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. Ya'll are pathetic lol.

>>33772246
I'm so sorry, I didn't know. I take back what I said. Please forgive me senpai

>>33772003
His bantz are petty, knees weak, mags are heavy
Laptop in hand, shitposting already, stairs aheadi
He's nervous, but in his posting he don't seem upsetti
The stairs come, and he just keeps on slippin
And he falls down, his front teeth get knocked out
He saves all his mags, but his laptop slips out
He's stumblin now, laptop is tumblin now
His teeth are all out, laptop's dead, cyкa, блять!

>>33772288
I would just like to take this moment to point out the quad dubs I just got

>>33772306
>someone posts my lame OC
You must have been holding off posting that bad boy

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>>33772306
I still love this.

>>33772246
I'm jacked like a rabbit. Lots of ghey secks all over my life.

>>33772422
At least you are creative enough to supply new OC. Cant say the same for the majority or the queers here.

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It's a beautiful day out, who /outdoors/ today

Didn't bring a rifle with me but I've got my Hi Power on me at least

>>33772665
Also excuse the bad pics, just using my phone

>>33772665
Where you at anon? Looks nice.
Im stuck at fugging work.

>>33772665
where you at nibba?

>>33771673
maximum trolling

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>>33772719
>>33772723
Goose Rock in western WA

I've got EA-18Gs flying around me too but I can't get any decent pics of them. Tourists think they're super cool but they're just a normal part of life here because of the naval air station

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almost time to say goodbye for the summer

>>33772869
Thats a truly bad photo.

>>33772798
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTvSmv6P03c

>>33772873
turn up the brightness on your screen. it's in focus, just low light

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>>33772869
Nigga I thought my pics were bad

>>33772882
I've actually met Mark Arm a few times, my uncle has worked behind the scene in the Seattle scene since the late 80s from being a roadie for big name bands to sweet exclusive work stuff with Sub Pop. He's still friends with a lot of those local big name guys and I really lucked out growing up and being able to meet some of them when going down to the city to visit and they'd just be hanging out at his place

Just last summer him and Eddie Vedder roofed their friend's house with just the two of them and then out of the blue Bradley Cooper showed up because apparently him and Eddie Vedder are friends and they all three hung out and started drinking and sent selfies to people. It was really really weird. It's weird seeing famous people being normal

I know this sounds like a "my dad works for Nintendo" thing but I 100% swear it's real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6cv4ovnwvw

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>>33768974

>really bad for our community to exclude people based on name/ethnicity alone

I don't imagine you'll find anyone clamoring to advocate for muhammad's right to take offensive longrifle classes anywhere that isn't an -istan. Furthermore, it's a private business that reserves the right to refuse service to anyone. Even if they were challenged they could simply shift the maximum class size or stop offering classes to individuals who lack credentials (LEO, mil, DoD contractor) or aren't vetted, as many "tactical" schools have done with their more specialized material.

Damn sucks if you sent your guns to JBI Armory. Someone on the AK section just posted up pics of a rusted out AK that JBI sent back.