/akg/ AK General

>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

What kind of ak shoyld i buy
What kind of mags are gud?

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Reporting in

Where is best place to get 100 round drum, comrade?

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Time to get comfy, /k/omrades

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>>33773105
Already there

>am I the only person on /k/ that has a Tula rubber bayonet?

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>got offered a dsa forged receiver for 565 shipped
16 inch FAL soon

Also, any updates on your light anon? Kinda sketched out by the no movement

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>>33773154
Still waiting release from Russia. It says they passed customs so I suppose we just play the waiting game. My guess is they already left and won't get updated until they're stateside.

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>>33773173
That's what I'm thinking too, I've had packages that never got updated passed this stage too

I just get super autistic about mail in general

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>Bought something from a reputable seller on the Files last Monday
>Nine days later and still no tracking info

Also last one of /not an AK/

>>33773154
My FN told me to tell you that your FN is a young whippersnapper

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>>33773217
Kek

I need a Belgian hi-power at some point to keep my Stg58 company when it gets converted back to fixed stock. How much did you pay for yours?

How does everyone keep their guns 922r compliant? I'm a bit new to this, so I'm wondering what parts are U.S. made on my slr-104. I have the list of the foreign made parts, but not the U.S. ones. Process of elimination, I know, but I'm worried I am missing a part (or not sure which parts may count as a single one).

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>>33773247
>How does everyone keep their guns 922r compliant?

>>33773196
I only worry about it because I live in the hood and don't want Jamal stealing my packages and finding new mags for his draco

>>33773217
What did you get?

>>33773247
>following 922r
shiggy diggy

Damn sucks if you sent your guns to JBI Armory. Someone on the AK section of ARFCOM just posted up pics of a rusted out AK that JBI sent back.

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>>33773173
>tfw my guy says my stuff should be here by now
>check the tracking number
>see that it's in the US going through customs 2 days ago.
>hope my shit doesn't get seized
>mfw

Hopefully my shit shows up by the end of the week. I literally never check the tracking info on international shipments because I like the surprise and constantly checking where it is makes time stop. How long does shit usually take to get though US customs, a few days?

>>33773275
Quick as a day up to a week

>>33773262
Shiiiiiiiet, dis whyte boi got extendos!

>>33773247
The muzzle brake (1 part), the furniture (3 parts), and the FCG (3 parts)

>>33773232
Ive got $650 or so into it, paid around $400 for it. It was an Israeli police trade in at Cabelas, and was carried a lot but shot little. Outside finish was really really rough and rusted super easily if I didn't oil it every other day but inside it was all nice parts wise. I had it cerakoted and replaced all the springs, normally I don't refinish surplus but this one I specifically bought to use and abuse and I wanted the best finish I could get on it so I didn't have to worry anymore about rust

>>33773262
Nothing special just another Bulgarian 6x5. I try to buy every one I can find for less than $50 or so and then I turn around and sell them on Ebay for $60-$80 or even more depending on how badly the buyer wants it :^) Only things I really do this with are these bayonets on EBay and true blacks I get from overseas on armslist and FB (but em cheap and sell them for $30ish a piece locally, haven't bought any true blacks in a few months tho)

>>33773254
922r is a shit

>tfw the only american part on my AKM build is the receiver (i don't think rivets count)

>>33773306
Thank you.

>>33773217
Have you really met Mark Arm?

Post your finest displays of autism /akg/

>>33773247

I scratch "hecho en USA" on every part in the gun.

>>33773346
Is that law even enforced? Or is it just a thing sellers have to worry about?

>>33773410

How would it be? Think with your head for a minute. Go look at any of your guns and see how many parts actually say where they were made. Chances are it's between one and zero.

So how can they prove anything? Hell, why would they even ever check? It's actually not common to have the ATF pouring over your firearms, if they are it's not because of 922r but because you dun goofed big time.

>>33773440
How noguns can you be?
>he's never seen all the (US) markings on literally every major US made AK part
kys

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>threw a spare tapco trigger group and US pistol grip in my parts kit so it could be built compliant because I didn't want any potential hangups
I was imagining him removing my gas piston and replacing it with a US made one without my permission

>>33773484

>having US made AK parts
sorry, I'm talking about quality firearms here.

>>33773399
>true blacks guy - forced autism
>daewooguy - awkward autism
>nick - obesity

>>33773398
Yes truly among a few others, I swear on all of Chimps' leg hairs that I have

>>33773557
>Forced autism
How and what does that even mean? How is liking a specific kind of mag and wanting mold numbers and liking 74 brakes and wanting multiple examples "forced" autism?

Not denying that it's autism because it is but explain the forced part

>>33773290
Jamal if you're reading this pls don't steal the 4 mags I have coming tomorrow

>>33773341
I need another bayonet, I wish I hadn't sold the plum 6x5 I accidentally got. I bought a black one and the seller sent me plum

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Bought an SLR-104 today.

>>33773655
Those the four NOS Romanian mags you have coming tomorrow?

>>33773668
Nice m8 enjoy it

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>>33773668
Give GP-25 pad

Also good cop, get a new MD

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Let me try that again

>>33773668
>lower serial number than mine

Is nice. Well done.

Am I allowed to use blue tape on a 47, and not a 74? It seems like all blue tape is on 74's.

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>>33773696
Go for it

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Makes the Sam7 and VEPR feel ridiculously heavy.

>>33773693
Are the first two digits 09 or 08? What's the lowest you've seen?

>>33773680
What's wrong with the Kreb's?

>>33773744
Overpriced as fuck and uggo. You can put furniture on an SLR for half the cost

>>33773693
Mine was made in 2014.

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>>33773557
Holy shit kek. I laughed to hard at this.

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>>33773676
Yeah. As far as 7.62 mags I only have a few Polish steel mags, I think I have 7 or 8 bakes and an aluminum waffle. It was a pretty good deal at 55 shipped with the mag pouch. And of course I if I actually get the 56s I've been dreaming about I'll need to buy a bunch of flatbacks because it won't feel right with Romy mags

Witcher are you lurking?

>>33773750
I prefer the looks of the ak-74 brake desu, but a brake seems seems pointless on a semi-auto. I'd rather have less noice and less flash. Plus, it weighs half as much as the ak-74 brake.

>>33773768
Sheeiit nigga I bought mine from him before you and he hasn't even told me if he's shipped them or not

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>>33773794
I saw he's only a state away from me so I'm just guessing when they'll arrive if I assume he shipped them Monday. He has a lot of feedback and sold a lot of those sets so I wouldn't expect tracking for that small of a transaction. Just speculation

man I gotta say I love how /akg/ has the most pictures with both guns and cats

makes this thread always feel super chill and homely

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>>33773911

>>33773525
They came in most of my guns. Some stuff isn't too bad depending. Although the recent revelations about US made FCG's is kinda disappointing.

>>33773668
>>33773691
Good job.
>>33773715
Welcomes to the latter 20th century

>>33773497
Even now there is hope for man.

I need Maadi badly and now the kits are expensive

>>33773857
I mean I'm sure it's fine, I just get really nervous when I don't get tracking info or any notification that the seller actually got my money and is planning on shipping anything out

>>33774332
I'll trade you mine for your AUG :^) cmon it's a fair trade

Is anyone going to the gun show at Oaks near Filthadelphia next month?

Going to try to sell my WW-74 there. Hopefully I can find some cool AK shit too

>>33774121
I've been out of the loop, Let me guess, poorly MIMed parts?

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I missed out on the 12 mags for $24 at centerfire
life is suffering

>>33773525
The Tapco G2 isn't so bad anon

>>33774428
Ha

>>33774585
Tapco G2 is dangerous

>>33774585
Enough your peened tail fag.

>>33774666
>Satan
>>33774688
>Hitler
Nice

>>33774666
M+M makes the best AK trigger, and I own the G2, ALG, and overpriced CMC.

>>33773052
>For most AKs you will have the choice of
7.62x39, 5.45x39, or 5.56x39.
Are we aware of this?

>>33774634
Cmon I'll even throw in all of my Egyptian accessories too, plus a piece of papyrus with my name written on it in hieroglyphs that my grandma bought me when I was little

>>33774499
Ever been to the expo center?

>>33774795
>5.56x39

I want some of dat.

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>>33774795
Deep reference

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>>33775333
I wish the perspective on that Sako mag wasn't so fucky.

My LGS has an excellent condition Norinco AKM for $999, but it has a cucked thunbhole stock.

Do I go for it?

>>33775402
How's the receiver cut?

>>33775442
Cuck slant.

For you other anons that get shit from Russia, is it normal for Russian Post to say that your package has been handed to Customs after it says Arrived at US Customs?
As in, is my package just getting checked/sorted or did my shit get seized and USPS isn't telling me.

>>33775458
I think $1k is a little steep. Not big on chink crap though. They make nice steel flatbacks though

Hey guys, I have one of these and I'm wondering what's a good way to use it without fucking up the finish
https://www.apexgunparts.com/polish-tantal-wz-88-ak74-bipod-military-issue.html
I want to use it to zero my rifles because I don't have any 5 or 10 round magazines (only 30 rounders) and I don't want to carry a around a 10 lb beanie bag rest (if I could find a decent one that's tall enough) or a 15lb+ metal rest.
>inb4 hurr just get 10 round mags to zero
10 round AK-74 mags aren't common enough and the only options for 10 round 7.62x39 mags that aren't Chinese are shitty Korean mags and I think magpul.

Modeltrainforum.com

This

>>33775402
Too much for a mak 90

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>>33775402
That is to much for a MAK in my opinion. $600-$800 is more like it. Ive got two, paid $730 for one and $675 for the other. Great rifles by the way.

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>>33775499
You could get the 10 round Romanian mags, if you can find them.

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>>33774767
>someone who is not me mentions M+M
can confirm, their trigger is great
light and crisp single stage
light enough to double up on the bench if you're not thinking

>>33775499
You don't have like a range bag or something? That's how I zeroed mine.

Also, Magpul makes 10 round AK PMAGs. Obviously not to the same quality as a standard steel mag, but it'll feed just fine for the bench work you intend to use it for.

>>33775805
It's not full of squishy soft stuff. It's a French F1 daypack.

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I feel like /k/ hasn't bitched about this list in awhile. Anyone have anything they want to add?

>>33775786
are those 40rnd chinese mags?

>>33775979
Nigger it's been less than a day since anyone mentioned your dumb list, nobody cares.

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>>33776038
it's good for noobs, you bimbo

>>33775979
Finnish mags are good but kind of rare.
Hungarians are good, best 20 rounders there are.

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>>33776052
STOP POSTING THIS STUPID SQUASH EVERY FUCKING THREAD

>>33776084
why does it make your peepee uncomfortable? Do you lust for a vegetable pussy?

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>>33776084

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>>33776084

>>33776130
Every time

Just started volume 33

>>33776113
squash are a fruit!

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>>33776084
problem?

>>33776175
delete this

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>>33776175

>>33776084
You need a cat

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....Ugh....guess you could say this thread was....squashed?

>>33776207
stupid sexy squash

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Now back your normally scheduled /akg/

>>33776679
Polish parade bayonet ?

>>33773173
Enter your tracking number from the russian post office into USPS. Once it passes through customs it's on the usps to update

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>>33776812
I track mine through USPS always, they sometimes don't update either

>>33776686
Yes, from what I've seen anyway.

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>>33776908
It would look nice with with my rifle.

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>>33776996
Yeah, but you'd need at least a chrome mag and maybe a white parade sling.

>>33773232
>tan fnx45
>tan long hair cat

>i have black fnx45
>i also have black long hair cat

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>>33777252
You know what you have to do

What's some good side rail mounts?

>>33777371
B-13, SM-13, BP-02

>>33777371
>every thread
Arsenal SM-13 and RS Regulate

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should I?

>>33777406
Not unless you really have to have a Russian drum.
>Those pop up on the Files from time to time you might be able to grab one for a little less.

>>33777427
it would be nice to skip the reloading meme

>>33777432
>skip the reloading meme
>reloading 75 rounds at a time sounds fun

>>33777438
yeh, honestly that sounds fucking aweful...

guess I'll just buy some russian waffle surplus.

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>>33777438
It's not that bad.
>Although rear loaders are much easier.

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>>33777463
Don't get it from Legion.
Go to the Files, there were some for like $35-$40 but the finish was kinda beat up.
For the same price Legion wants, you could get a minty one.

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>>33776052
>>33776175
>>33776207

>>33773134
I've had the opportunity to get one, but why would you want one?

where 2 cop plum 7.62 mags

are yugo surplus mags dependable?

>>33777564
please tell me this didn't just happen

>>33773363
Yeah, I don't understand this board's aversion to following the law.

>>33777593
When you find out, you let us know.
>They're going to range from $100+ for ((10)) plums to $500+ for a Russian plum waffle

>>33777601
Yes

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>>33777958
Can someone tell me why neither of my 2 yugo bayonets will fit on my slr107?
Both of them fit my WASR fine.

>>33778784
How do they "not fit"?
Will they not lock on to the lug?
Will they not fit on the lug at all?
Would they fit if you took on your muzzle device?
>Not on the accessory lug though, on the actual bayo lug

Pics would help.

>>33778860
Muzzle brake isnt the problem.
They wont fit on the lug at all.
Are both lugs the same?
I would assume the rear one is for use with a slant brake and the forward one is for use with the bigger 74 style brakes.
I haven't tried it without the brake yet. I'll have to try that later when I get home.

>>33778880
One is a bayonet lug the other is an accessory lug for grenades.

>>33778886
So can I not mount a bayonet with that type of muzzle brake on?

>>33778880
I meant to try it on the front lug without the brake on, to see if it was related to length.
If you've got calipers, check the size of the Arsenal's lug vs the WASRs and the width of the lock mech slot on the bayonet.

>>33778892
I don't think the bayonet ring would fit around the 24mm FSB collar (the threaded part)

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>>33778892
You can but I don't have a Yugo bayonet right now to test. It could be minor fitment differences because I have a Bakelite bayonet that just barely fits on my SLR.
>>33778899
This is a good idea and yes the front lug is for bayonets.

>>33778904
The part the ring goes around is actually like 17mm.

>>33778899
The lug stops the bayo before the brake comes in comes in contact with the bayo ring.
>>33778904
Oh yeah, duh.
>>33778905
I'm guessing it's just a tolerance issue.
Bayos must be too tight for slr yet the wasr lug is small enough for it.

>>33778951
It could be, mine is super tight and I sometimes need to hammer it off with a magazine. Try a Bulgarian bayonet, literally a millimeter or less could be fucking with it.

>>33778914
>The part the ring goes around is actually like 17mm.
Makes sense, I was just referencing the size of the brake/thread pitch, as I don't have an Arsenal.

>>33778971
Right on. I think the problem is just minor fitment, OP could probably fix it with a file but I would just get a new bayo

>>33778977
Agreed.
I've been wanting to expand my bayo collection.
Only have 2 yugos right now. What should I look for and where are good places to look? Other than AK files. I check there already.

>>33778996
I would attempt to get at least one from every major country that produced them. Definitely try to find Chinese or E German. I would check ebay(verify you're dealing with a trusted seller) and apex gun parts. Apex always has tons of shit and they are my go to for milsurp accessories.

>>33779009
I check apex pretty regularly too.
I always forget about ebay.

>>33779013
eBay is actually a great source for strange items as long as you know exactly what you're looking for, try gunbroker as well. I've gotten some good shit from gunbroker that was misidentified and the seller didn't know what it was. For example I went to buy an SP1 upper and found a diemaco upper for like 499.

>>33779035
>diemaco upper
Is that cold cananda?

>>33779046
Yeah.

>>33779056
Neat. I dont know anything about that stuff.
But I would love an SP1 or M16A1 clone.

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>>33779083
That's what I planned to do but I was even surprised that it was really a diemaco, I don't think they ever imported here but I'm not sure. It's an abortion right now but that's only because I still haven't decided what to do with the upper.

>>33777589
I didn't buy it. I was gifted it by a friend who went to St. Petersburg a few years back and picked it up there as a souvenir I suppose

>>33779116
A1 upper
A2 lower
Fucking disgusting.
Jk, looks good bro

>>33779161
Oh I have no doubts how weird it looks lol the lower is just a test bed to make sure the rifle functions

Should I get a vepr? And if so should it be in 54r or 39, and what barrel length?

>>33779253
>And if so should it be in 54r or 39,
Well, 54r is drying up and 39 can refer to 7.62x39 or 5.45x39.

If you're going to get a vepr in either caliber, I'd go with a Vepr FM.

>>33779253
>falling for the 54r meme
If you want a bigger caliber go .308. If not go 762x39.

>>33779275
cheap 7.62x54r is drying up*

And the stuff that's left is too expensive for the quality of the rounds, in my personal opinion.

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Should I repaint my aluminium waffle mag or just wait and find a nicer condition one? I probably sound like a massive faggot for asking.

>>33779253
.308
20"

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>>33779083
Do it. I'm not one for a fancy high speed AR but the A1 does it for me. I do want a Colt 4x20 scope for it though.

>>33779286
I got mine from the files in NOS condition for 50 or 55. I wouldn't say it's worth it to refinish it considering how available they are. Plus, BFPU finish adds character

>>33779253
If you get one get one as a DMR.
>source: I had one

>>33779311
You're right anon. I'll just leave it as is.

>>33779275
>>33779282
>>33779275
I mostly use soft point ppu 54r anyways with my nuggets due to autismo range policies. I have a lot of ammo for them that I can share.

And I dont which x39 I'd want, I only just started to look into vepr's and ak's in general. I used to think I'd want to get a DDI or Arsenal to make an east german Mpi clone but im not really dead set on that idea, im not even sure I could do that with an FM (I wasnt looking at FM's originally though).

I'm a /brg/ anon, this is new territory for me.

>>33779373
It's all good.

If you want an MPI clone, you won't want to start with a Vepr. You'd be better off having an AKM kit built or starting with a Maadi and putting East German furniture on it. That way you have a really nice AKM and you can swap furniture back to the original whenever you feel like it.

The Veprs are great shooters, but unless you're going to go for an RPK clone in the future, they really won't be a clone of anything. Most people are ok with that, some of us are too autistic to go that route.

If you want a 54r rifle, and you don't really mind the ammo situation, an 18" Vepr is a pretty solid choice too. If you shop around and get lucky, you might even be able to find a Vepr IV in 54r with a factory railed dust cover and folder. Those things are sweet and I wish I would have picked one up from legion when they had them at $1300.
C'est la vie.

>>33779286
You're right about sounding like a massive faggot. Leave it be

>>33779446
If I got a vepr I'd either tacticool it out or get something from ironwood to replace the factory furniture and go psuedo-svd. All the long guns I own are cold-war era knock offs or kit builds, so either I'll make whatever I decide to get into yet another clone or finally make it past 1989 and buy into the railz meme.

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>>33779446
>you might even be able to find a Vepr IV in 54r with a factory railed dust cover and folder. Those things are sweet and I wish I would have picked one up from legion when they had them at $1300. And tulammo 308 is only ~35c/r after shipping for blasting ammo.
You can get a 308 version of that for now minus a railed dust cover for 1200 at kvar. It still has a side rail of course. Folder stock and no welds etc or 922r to worry about. I just got one and can confirm it's a great shooter.
For me, the single stack magwell forcing you into either low capacity or really long mags, will always turn me off from 54r veprs. And I've already got a psl, so I guess that doesn't help either. I'm kindof a snob when it comes to 54r mags because it just boggles my mind that they would make it single stack only.
>>33779373
>>33779282
As far as ammo costs, 54r seems like it's always more expensive regardless of whether you're comparing magnetic or non magnetic to follow range rules.

>>33779724
And tulammo 308 is only ~35c/r after shipping for blasting ammo. It's pretty cheap to shoot 308.
That was not meant to be part of the greentext in my post. Was copy and pasting it around and missed it.

>>33779724
I like with what you did to make the middle vepr resemble a RPK. Considering the price of actual RPKs, I am tempted to get and convert a vepr to resemble the more traditional ones.

>>33779724
Yeah, I can't see buying a 54r Vepr when .308s exist. Why would you want an absolutely ancient rimmed cartridge autoloader aside from just a weak sentiment about 54r. Instead you can get one in a caliber half its age that you can buy in any gun store in America.

>>33779863
>lol

>>33779724
how is mag aval. on .308 vepr's? I was looking at 54r for memes and because as I said I have a shit ton I bought for my nugget that I rarely dip into. I also have an FAL so I could share .308 with it as well if I went that route. I just figured
>slav gun
>slav ammo
plus I know 20rd 54r mags exist. I havent looked into versions enough to say the same for any of the other vepr's

>>33779888
I know they're built off of RPK specs, but they still look off.

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>>33779863
>what you did to make the middle vepr resemble a RPK
I didn't do anything other than buy it mostly as-is. It's a vepr-1v rpk. It's just a 556 semi auto rpk-201 clone built in russia. They imported them briefly before the russia sanctions.
>>33779888
>how is mag aval. on .308 vepr's?
pretty easy to track down anything from official vepr mags to aftermarket ones up to 20 or 25rds. I've just got 2 10rds and a 5, and probably won't be buying any more.
>plus I know 20rd 54r mags exist
Those must be pretty long, and I feel like I've heard mixed things about the reliability of aftermarket 54r mags. I think csspec or someone got the 10rder reliability fixed now IIRC.

>>33779919
Oh really? Damn! Completely missed out of it!

>>33779940
you and me both buddy

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>>33779940
Yeah, the price went from 1100 to 2000+ overnight after the sanctions hit. Even though there's nothing stopping them from importing more.
There's maybe one other guy on /k/ who has one, but I haven't seen him in a long time.
I really want to know how many were imported, couldn't have been very many.
The 308 vepr I've got only had 300 imported, so I figured I better get it even if it's sortof bad timing around tax season. When it comes to russian imports, you snooze, you loose for many years if not forever. Especially if it's a small batch thing.

>>33779960
Well now I feel less guilty about getting the saiga in 5.45, seeing that they're likely to jump even more in price with the recent news regarding the import ban.

>>33779972
It was never going to change. Why won't people accept it

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>>33780081
some of us are still optimistic , anon.

>>33780081
Not anytime soon, but never say never.
>I'd like to see the Chinese ban lifted, and that's even less likely.
Although after hearing from some of our European anons, Chink AKs aren't as nice as they used to be.

>>33780102
I know there's optimism. But historically once a sanction gets placed the odds of it being reversed are slim and none.

>>33780118
I would also like some imports to come in as well. Parts kits are going to eventually dry up. And they're even overpriced

>>33779955
How many AKs do you have? I've been thinking about it and trying to figure it out.
>SLR 104 UR
>SGL 21
>SGL 31
>That AKM kit you're getting built
Any other complete rifles? I know you've got some kits lying around.

Which one would you say is your favorite? Which one do you shoot the most?

>>33780250
I also have a Saiga I converted poorly
In order of how much they get shot, from least to most;
Saiga
SGL21
SGL32
104UR

>>33780250
wasr
npap
vepr 308

slr104 soonnn

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>>33780278
You really like the russian shit dont you ?

>>33780292
The only AKs I really don't care for in general are Yugos, but I try to focus on Russian stuff because it has the most allure and intrigue for me

>>33780278
Oh yeah I forgot about the Saiga, that's the same one you did the videos on converting right?

I truly regret not picking up a few SGLs and Saigas when I had the chance. I kept putting them off to buy other stuff and then they jumped in price. I mean I'm happy with my SLRs as they're great rifles too, but they're not Izhmash guns.

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>>33773105
>>33773134

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>>33780326
My last yugo left a sour taste with me. Fucking first gen opap. I would not mind a pre ban yugo tho. I really like gyspy Shit for some reason, they just work well.

>>33780335
That's the one. I was very lucky to get my SGLs when I did for the price I did. It's looking like they may truly be a thing of the past now. Too much has changed.

>>33780350
My next favorite is probably Chinese.

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>>33780399
Chinese annoys me, because its not witjin the same spec as thier European counterparts. Very well built, aleast my nhm91 is. Im curious why the chinese opted for the 1.6mm receiver rather than the 1mm.

>>33780527
Their steel wasn't as good so they beefed it up to make up for it

You've gotta remember that their stamped AKs are more like stamped AK47s than normal AKMs. The Chinese did their own thing with them and that's why they're a little goofy compared to normal AKMs

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>>33780593
Ah makes sense, i need to get a regular chinese ak to go with my oddity. How are milled chinese rifles? They seem interesting.

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>>33780625
I have no experience with them but I'm sure they're just as good as their stamped guns, just heavier like all milled guns. I've been thinking about picking up a milled Chinese rifle too to go with mine, but I probably won't because I don't have enough money for everything I want and there are rifles I want more

>>33779116
>a2 stock
>a2 grip
>heavy profile barrel
Come on man, the a2 lower is excusable, but seriously

>>33780669
I need a milled gun to go with my collection, a chink rifle sounds better than the arsenal abortion. T3 kit would be cool to build , but US milled recievers scare me. I wish i could find one of those slr100 receivers that were imported.

>>33780669
>there are rifles I want more
Like what?

>>33780766
Why fight the current shit AK market, go around it. Lots of great stuff on the horizon, milsurp is just getting more expensive, also invest in some pragmatism

I want to buy my first AK. I read the sticky and I have a few questions
>century is not /akg/ approved unless its a zastava. sometimes I see N-PAP century rifles and I wondered if they are ok
>I really like the looks of an underfolder. Is an underfolder a good choice for a first ak?
>none of my local gun shows sell anything other than centurys

>>33780766
More short term I want a 5.45 Saiga and/or and SGL31

More long term I really want a proper AK74M clone (I want an SGL to use as a base for it but also so I can just shoot it as is while collecting what I'll need), I want a 1988 AKS74 kit to properly clone, and I really want an East German MPiKMS72 clone. I'm a little nervous about getting into kit builds simply because I would need the rifle to be as 100% correct as I could properly get it and if anything was off it would really really bother me, and I don't want to end up sitting on boxes of kits waiting for me to get over my autism to be built

There have been some great looking East German kits selling on the Files lately that have been incredibly tempting

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>>33780901
Eh i would not get a underfolder as a first ak unlees you really want a underfolder. Get a fixed stock instead.
N paps are hit or miss just inspect them. What you dont want is a century built rifle.


>>33780915
Get the saiga.

>>33780915
Get a 1988 kit, you won't regret it

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306612
This is cool. Wish i had a maadi kit.

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>>33780940
>>33780974
pls don't tempt me, I'm already gonna be selling my Cx4 and IJ70 but I'm also really really REALLY tempted to sell my StG58 build and new Troy XM177E2 clone just to fund around $2k worth of kits to sit on

>>33781046
Do it, who needs other rifles when you have ak's

>>33781069
Who needs AKs when you have parts of AKs

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>>33781069

>>33780940
>just inspect them
How would I know if it's a century built?

>>33781081
Who needs parts for AKs when you have pictures of them.
>>33781091
Look it up on Google before you buy it. While you are at the store using the exact model off the receiver.

I'm contemplating selling some milsurps and buying parts and a receiver to build a Russian milled AK. Has anyone on here ever built one?

>>33781135
Like a PLO kit? Unless its a reweld, would not trust US heat treament.

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>>33781135
I don't think you know what you're getting into

You may be able to build a milled AK but if you want it with Russian parts you're going to have to sell a lot more than some smelly milsurps

You guys were talking about frequent captchas, ever get this one? I've gotten it at least a dozen times in the past days

>>33781069
Honesty I don't really shoot most of my rifles other than my AKs and vz and .22lr any more. The XM clone is cool and fun to shoot but that's an area of collecting (US Vietnam stuff) that although I think is really cool I don't really care for collecting stuff from it and would rather collect other stuff instead. My StG is really cool and fun to shoot but I just don't shoot it much anymore, and the history behind it isn't as cool as other FALs (wish I would have bought an R1 from the beginning as those are my favorites). AKs are just one of the few types of guns that both are very fun to shot for me but also extremely historically interesing, more so than a lot of other guns

>>33781081
I don't want to get stuck with kits tho and don't want to let my 'tism keep me from getting them built into proper rifles though

>>33781180
Russian is what I'd hope for, but I'll settle for anything as long as it's milled. I've contemplated finding a PLO kit but I wouldn't know where to look.

Are the PSAk gen 2 guns single stack magwells? If I get one can I use surplus mags or whatever?

>>33781206
They use proprietary triple stack mags.

>>33781206
They use exclusively tapco mags. They are your only option.

>>33781215
>>33781228
>>33781228
hmm maybe i shouldnt buy a PSAk

>>33781197
First you want to look at getting a home equity loan, then once you have $4000 you look on Gunbroker or forums.

>>33781194
It's a rewarding struggle, like how parents say having a child is.

Am I Chimps now or is this a trap

>>33781264
Fu im Chimps.

Is there anything better than receiving a case of GT 5.45? I'm having a hard time figuring it out.

>>33781280
Leaving the basement for more chinken fingers and peperoni sticks.

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>>33781264
HA

>>33781297
I don't have a basement

>>33781280
Billy Joel is better than anything including AKs

>>33781327
>You will never get to see Billy Joel in concert
Why live

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>>33781327
FAL > Billy Joel desu senpai

>>33781046
Fuck Troy.

>>33781414
Did he push your shit in Anon?

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>>33781368
oh hey my light just got to US customs. I was right

>>33781445
Nigga why is your phone on military time?

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>>33781445
>still awaiting release from russia
Mine has been like 30 seconds behind yours at all the same stops REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>33781457
100% easier to read, especially if you're in a medical related field. Just look at your phone and you're good.

>>33781457
i'm not op but mine is on 24hr time because I like it more. and it pisses off my friends when they have to use it

>>33781445
My shit from Russia took 3 days and just got released today, just a heads up.

>>33773399
D...doubles....

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So...
What's the disappointment gonna be this time guys?

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C-c-c-could this b-be the big one guise??

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>>33781515
>mosins and sks
>200 and 450 starting prices

>>33781521
>>33781515
I want to see Kvar drop to EAA levels of advertisement

You have to admit, they get people talking

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>>33781515
>>33781521
I guess I'll just keep reading their emails to see.
Doesn't much matter, dropped $1300 bucks there a week ago and I'm probably done buying guns for the year.

>>33781457
I like to set my alarms late at night when I'm nice and sleepy and I've set it for pm instead of am too many times so this helps curb my retardation.

>>33781463
Told ya I'd get mine first

>>33781429
No. Troy rifles.

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>>33781538
I forgot all about that.
I'd love to see some shit like this.

>>33781552
With the way my USPS goes they'd probably make sure of it anyways, they always hold onto it for an extra day or two cause they're slow pricks

Mine will probably get updated as here soon, it was right next to yours

>>33781515
>>33781521
It's not gonna be the RPKs they know we want so I don't even care anymore, Kvar can suck a fat one for all I care :'(

It's like when you're a kid and your grandma tells you she got you a video game you're gonna love for Christmas and you're all hyped about it and when the time comes to open presents it's some shitty plug and play thing

>>33781606
What if it's crates full of dank early 74m kits and Russian AKM barrels?

>>33781545
I feel that. i just bought an SVT that I shouldn't have
>sp5kghm9p26kitsetcetc fuuuuu

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>>33781552
>>33781582

Have faith anons, your time will come soon

Coming this weekend:
3 mags
2 74ullc receivers

>>33781691
What mags?

>>33781646
Whatever they're peddling, I doubt I'd want it more than the folding vepr 308 I bought.

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>>33781653
My body is ready

>>33781691
nice

What is the best time of the day to try and call David?

>>33781691
>2 74ullc receivers
Noice

>>33781712
Me too. I'm getting some mags and a nice RPK clubfoot replacement for shitty tube folder for the Vepr I don't even own yet because I'm spending the funds on an SGL instead.

>Plz stick around Veprs

>>33781733
I just text him around like 2-3 eastern

>>33781697
7.62 polymer slabside
5.45 tula bake
1 mystery izhmash mag :)

>>33781748
And by replacement, I mean stock and hardware both, so I just have to punch out a pin, replace and re-pin.

I'll have 16" RPK til I can get a bulgarian barrel and turn it to the right profile. Unless I do that before I get the rifle itself.

>>33781751
is the 8869 number on his website the cell you're texting?

>Tracking says rifle arrived in Orlando at 2
>I should be able to pick it up tomorrow before work
>mfw

>>33781748
10 months from the time the first one was ordered.

>>33781777
No

>>33781733
I used to be able to get him around 4-5PM CST.

Meanwhile, in Maadi world:
>tap a custom 14x1 LH thread sleeve onto my turned-down barrel
>brake won't thread on anymore
>determine that the sleeve probably swelled some while being tapped onto the muzzle
>ask a local gun board if anyone has a threading die so I can chase the threads
>"YOU'VE RUINED YOUR GUN BECAUSE YOU ARE CLEARLY INCOMPETENT, THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BARREL WHEN YOU PRESSED IT ON, START SAVING TO TO REPLACE THE BARREL OR THE ENTIRE GUN FOR YOUR COSTLY MISTAKE"

One of these days, I'm sure I'll find a place where I can ask "hey I need to do (thing) with my Maadi, can I get some help?" and not get met with a wall of condescension. Not today, though.

>still can't get a message back on buying new raifu
W h y

>>33781748
You gonna do a total conversion?

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>>33774557
I grabbed 2 packs along with an AK kit, they should be here on Saturday and I'll post up on their condition

>>33782137
I want a decent HK93 clone so bad, I wish parts and mags were cheaper

>>33781811
No, you're dealing with insecure autists. Don't wait for that day.

Chimps, expanding on what I was saying above about wanting an 88 AKS74 build, would it be worth it to buy one of those rguns 1988 AK74 kits and building it into an AKS74 or would that not be good? Would I be better off specifically buying an AKS74 kit or just building the rguns kit into a proper AK74? I don't know the specific detail differences between AK74s and AKS74s, so I'm not sure if it's more than just putting a 4.5mm trunnion and Izhmash triangle on it. Besides the rear trunnion and stocks and stock locking latch on the receiver, are there any different parts between an AK74 and AKS74 from the same year?

Basically I want to know if I'd be in the clear building an rguns 88 AK74 kit into an AKS74 or if it'd be best to just keep it am AK74. If I did get an rguns kit I wouldn't want to do it an injustice by building it into something it isn't if there will be any discrepancies between the two rifles (I hope this is making sense, it's hard to word it)

>>33782508
You're better off with an Slr 104 and taking the side rail off.

>>33782508
No, it's perfectly fine, they are not distinguishable other than the folding stock. Nothing wrong or incorrect about it. The only actually hard part is finding a real Izhmash 4.5mm trunnion, but even I gave up on that in favor of a virgin 4.5mm Bulgarian trunnion I already had.

I am going to build my 1987 kit as a folder.

>>33782508
What you're describing is pretty much exactly the route I'm going with my 83 AKS-74 build. Kit from Rguns, 74U LLC receiver, sold the stock and rear trunnion from the fixed gun and bought an Izzy 4.5mm stock, front latch hardware, and a Bulgarian trunnion because I couldn't find a Russian one and almost nobody can tell the difference anyway.

>>33782301
Yeah, I know. I just want a damn slant brake on this gun and it seems like I'm constantly being berated for not having 20 years of machining experience and a garage workshop like all the old men have where they can "easily" do whatever I'm looking for help with getting done out of my tiny 650 sq ft apartment.

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>>33782635
Thanks to people like you I was able to find a pristine 83 takeoff to replace my own. After much haggling and anger.

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>>33782554
No, SLR104s are incorrect for a late 80s Soviet rifle clone

Plus I want a proper Russian kit build clone, not another cross dressing Bulgarian rifle. I've already played the whole "dress your SLR up as a late 80s rifle" game and I want a proper clone

>>33782575
Ok cool thanks, I just wasn't sure and didn't want a weird bastard rifle of weird mixed parts if I went through with it

>The only actually hard part is finding a real Izhmash 4.5mm trunnion, but even I gave up on that in favor of a virgin 4.5mm Bulgarian trunnion I already had.
Awesome, my next question was gonna be how hard an Izhmash 4.5mm trunnion would be to find and if I should just settle for a Bulgarian trunnion

>>33782676
If you're patient, you might be able to find a Tula, but good luck finding an Izzy.

I just gave up and went with a Bulgarian since the only differences I'm aware of are a couple of small proof marks. Supposedly a fair few Bulgarian surplus trunnions came from Tula anyway, so good enough.

>>33782676
It used to be borderline impossible but now with all the russians who will cut up deacts to mail you parts, it's much more possible. The trouble would be finding (by proxy) an AKS74 deact that is an actual AKS-74 deact and not one of the recently made deacts that izhmash is just throwing together with spare parts basically. There are a number of pedigree 74 deacts in Russia but finding one via your Russian deact proxy and getting it sawed would be a pain.

Unfortunately the same goes for the stocks, the izhmash 4.5mm stocks are all the correct "type" but very rarely will you see one that is actually from the 80's and not new production. I have an izhmash folder but it's one of the new production ones.

Both of those are almost indistinguishable from the real thing though.

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>>33782635
Ah ok, I didn't realize your rifle was starting from an AK74 kit. I just want sure if slapping a folding stock on it made it a true AKS74 or if there were other differences

While I do think an early 80s clone would be cool, I just have a massive soft spot for late 80s matte plum furniture (shiny plum isn't as nice looking IMO, I know I'm in the minirity here). Maybe someday I'll go for an earlier AKS74 build too, if I even go through with this one

>>33782723
I figure something as small as the rear trumnion being "incorrect" in that it isn't Izhmash would be alright, especially considering how difficult it seems to be to cop an Izhmash one. I figure a Russian kit with a US receiver and Bulgarian barrel can get away with a Bulgarian rear trunnion as well, it's not like it's gonna be a huge discrepancy or something

>>33782742
Like you and 74ULLC Endless Wait anon said though the trunnion is close enough, and if I did go though with this and managed to find an Izhmash 4.5mm trunnion that wasn't a legitimate 80s part I feel it'd still be close enough (if a Bulgarian is close enough yet still technically incorrect, then a newer production Izhmash would be in the same boat only slightly more "correct" IMO)

For the stock I could always just settle for a newer Izhmash one and keep my eyes peeled for an original and swap it out so I'm not concerned about how difficult the correct 80s stock would be to find if a new one is still like you say the correct type. If I ever did happen to find one all if have to do is pop the old one off which is no big deal

I've thought about doing this for over a year now but I think I'm actually getting close to finally just doing it. I've watched the rguns 88 kits go up $70 and I want one before they're gone and I'm stuck paying $1000+ for one on the Files in a few years

>>33782837
It's $620 for a pristine unissued Russian AK-74 kit. That's pretty damn good if you ask me.

My 87 came in the same batch. Rguns will sometimes put their items that don't warrant their own website link onto their GB page. I got it there for around $750 iirc. I've thought about getting an 88 to go with it and have one built as a folder and one fixed. But I also try to keep my shit in check.

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Ak's are the best and most kawaii guns on the planet

>>33782938
>that stock
Should have got a wire folder ?

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whats the name of the russiaboo who sent this?

I can't read Russian.

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>>33782973
Nah I like that stock better than the wire folder

>>33782916
What receiver are you using for your rguns AKM kit you just sent off?

If I go through with it I want it to be as accurate as possible and want to go the 74ULLC route but I'm impatient mad I'm in WA and don't want any gay antigun stuff to pass while I wait three years for a receiver. I also don't want to let the kit stagnate, I want to go through with getting it properly built should I get the kit. Not finishing things I start is something I'm really bad at

GB is a no go for me as they refuse to let me make an account that isn't flagged after sending them all of my info and their $1 multiple times with multiple emails and accounts, so there goes a big chunk of the gun market for me and a lot of chances to buy some cool stuff

>>33783316
>mad
*And, my stupid phone autocorrects words to the absolute dumbest things

>>33783316
About 6 months ago I bought a package deal on TAKF: A virgin Romanian barrel, a hand select 1968 izzy kit, and a 74uLLC receiver that had a serial number matching said kit.

That kit is the one I currently have for sale. The barrel and the receiver went to my 1969 kit that I sent off to JBI.

Around the same time I also came very close to snagging a 1988 AKS-74 receiver from 74uLLC that got posted for sale, but was too slow. It was listed for just like $250. I have virgin Bulgarian barrels waiting for my 74 kits. I would have been ecstatic to get that receiver. I was happy about getting the receiver I got, but that 68 kit is just baggage. And given how much I paid for the package deal, vs how much I'm trying to sell the kit out of it for, the barrel and receiver were pretty expensive.

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>>33783316
You were right, my steel mags didn't show up today.

WHEN

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>>33773696
can anyone explain me the blue tape fenomenom ?

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Bored making a recoil pad.

>>33783715
I can't check the mail till in home from work but I'm hoping they're here but I still haven't heard anything from the guy, also I listed a bunch of small gay shit on the Files hoping they'll sell because half of it I've been sitting on for ages but who knows. Black Mat Orange Cat had decent luck selling random stuff and one guy is selling coffee so I hope at least I can make some bucks on it. Selling stuff online is a huge chore 90% of the time

>>33783441
I'm hoping if I do buy the kit I can find a proper 74ULLC receiver from someone because it's gonna be a hard wait if I order one directly. There have been a few virgin Bulgarian barrels I've almost bought the past month or so just to have for when the day comes and I start buying kits but I always let them slip and then regret it

>>33783958
I kek a little bit every time I see the coffee ad. I should really dig through my gun parts box and sell some of it, I know there's a bunch of stuff I never use any more. I could definitely use a little more gun money. I kind of want to buy your Mosin cleaning kit on the off chance you'd send me some of your leg hair

>>33781786
Ouch, at least it'll be there soon. That's got to be a satisfying feeling.

>>33782038
>You gonna do a total conversion?
That's the end goal, but right now, SGLs are taking a priority.

>>33784236
Nice. Which SGL you looking for?

>>33784290
26-21 right now. Honestly, just trying to get two in 5.45 and two in 7.62 so I can have a 74M, 103,104, and 105 clone.

So far only have a 31-94.

>>33784312
Nice, I was thinking about hunting down a 21 too but I can only afford the fixed right now

You got a lead yet?

>>33784333
>You got a lead yet?
A couple, but one is significantly cheaper than the other, which kind of makes me worried, but it's worth the look.

I'll report back sometime next week if I pick it up.

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>>33784177
I'll let you hand select leg hairs ;^))

That's how a lot of that stuff was, I haven't owned a Mosin or Whitney Wolverine in years and found all that stuff while packing for moving. All that stuff minus the AK parts are just random crap that could very well be a few bucks in my pocket instead of random pieces of metal that had been hanging out in a drawer for years

>>33783849
What was your final cost?

>>33784355
"I'll take it"

Gimme the hairs closest to the scrote
PM sent

>Meridian makes a new IG post
>Russian
>-74
>...1988

REEEEEEEEEEE I WANT MY 83

>>33784513
It's the same with JBI posting 105s.

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>>33777390
Yeah why the fuck do people keep asking questions about AKs in this thread.

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>guy with 16 inch fal just canceled on me
So.... How much is a folder SGL-21?

New thread

>>33784845

>>33784845

>>33784845

Does anyone have a PSAK-47? I'm looking at the gen 2 build kit and it's pretty inexpensive.

>>33784226
Eh. The fact I'm already getting an aims receiver is awesome