gear queer thread /gq/

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In honor of the GOTM

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>>33156905
Oh, true. It's March 1st.


Posting Grey IFAK.

>tfw I actually bought one of those in black as my first and only plate carrier

>>33156882
You're all just larping. Plate carriers are a meme. It doesn't matter if you have plates if you can't even move 20 feet before collapsing. Your 5000 hours on Arma 3 doesn't make you an Operator.

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>>33156948
Wouldn't be a /gq/ thread without you, mang.

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>>33156948
>(you)

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>>33156882
hey my MEMEBAV was featured.

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What level plates do you guys run?

Looking to get some but not sure what level to get

>>33157396
With current prices and weights, there's no reason not to get level 4 ceramic.

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>>33157396
LVL IV triple curve from Armorwear, though I do have a pair of swimmer's cut AR650 that I use as training plates

>>33156905
>A+
my nigga

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>>33157575
Put the AR680 in a vest for your friend. If you crack a plate while training you probably will crack something more significant.
>>33157396
Buy Level 4

If you buy Level III or III+ for a plate carrier I will find you and shoot AP 30-06 at you while you sleep

>>33157637
I think I am going to get working on the 102 portion of this writeup this week. If anyone has any questions or specific points related to the 102 subjects ( fit, plate cuts, ICJ, side plates) please let me know and I will do my best to address them.

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>>33157396
lvl4
or esapi with plate backers.

thoughts on the 2 quart canteen?

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>>33157851

>>33157851
good on a firstline belt since camelbaks are a thing

>>33157861
> edit read 1 qt

>>33157851
alright for throwing in your ruck

>>33151928
>>33151814
No. There are significant differences between all the SOF units that you'll only truly appreciate if you're inside of the community. If I hear the "Rangers do the most DA by way of their increased size as an organization" one more time someone better be there to hold me back. This is a stale fucking meme that needs to die, I don't know if it's ever been true but it certainly hasn't been anytime within the last two decades. Even if you subtract the number of DEVGRU operators from the SEAL pool, the number of SEALs actively in the standard teams (SEALs, not NSW) outnumber Rangers (including HHC and support staff) by almost 2:1.

A lot of the differences in SOF capabilities really comes down to culture and funding, and many of the reasons for things are much more nuanced. With differences some times existing due to extremely sensitive and complicated factors, and sometimes due to pure pettiness.

Reapplying to our version of National Guard.
We use plate carriers now instead of vietnam tier SHIT.
Here's to hoping I get back in, and if I do, that it's timely

>>33158145
> "Rangers do the most DA by way of their increased size as an organization".

hey guys which brands make some good 3rd party ruck systems in ACU/OCP or Tan?Ranger Green? I don't care for the standard issue ruck for my NG unit TA-50, my unit SOP is "wear what ya want but you'll carry it" so i'm good on getting a 3rd party one

>>33158955
>OCP
Can you use multicam?

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>>33157396
IV.

There is very little reason not to at this point.

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>tfw my Merrell MOABs start disintegrating after 3 months
looks like my next paycheck will be spent on Salomons, rip

>>33158990
yes sir i can

>>33158955
I have a SpecOps Brand Recon Ruck that uses my old alice frame. Not the most comfy but it was available in multimeme and was on sale for only $65 so I can't argue. One downside besides the heavy frame is that it is only the size of a medium alice pack so it's kinda small.

>>33158994
Heavy use? Mine are good after a year and a half, only use them a few weekends a month though
>>33158995
How much do you want to spend?

>>33159003
I've been using them every day for average shit, and intense shit like once a month.

>>33159003
i dont really have a budget, i just wanted to see what the deal was on other brands, then decide on budget

>>33159014
Eberlestock, exo mountain gear, karrimor, 5.11, and arc'teryx are good brands to look at
>>33159008
Makes sense, they honestly aren't the most durable boots, mine had part of the to a shaved off after scraping on some asphalt, also has regular wear from hiking and stuff.

>>33159030
Yeah, it's got me a bit pissed 2bh. I might wait another month becasue I could probably get some more use out of it and I really want a Maritime, but we'll see.

>>33159030
thanks! ill look after i get out of my Pol Sci class

>>33158772
Plate carriers or armor carriers? Make sure you know before you drop cash.

>>33158955
Mystery Ranch makes top tier packs. They come in tan and multimeme. I'd get tan so you can wear it civilian hiking without be a sperg.

And don't forget to hit the gym and do serious squats, deadlifts, weighted lunges, farmers walks, and flutter kicks to build up those legs to make rucking easier and safer ok your body.

>>33159129
Forgot about them
Don't forget leg press

>>33157094
Lmao at pic

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>>33158994
Do it. I've been using my Salomon Forces Quest 4D Pros for like six or seven months as daily drivers and the only issue I have with them is that the heel sole is slightly ripped from the body on on foot, and even then that's only because I got it pinched between a package car's drop gate and a loading dock while I was mid stride. I'm actually surprised it didn't rip more.

>>33159287
United Package Smasher?

>>33158993
Unless you don't like ceramic cause it'll cause more damage when compromised by a round

>>33159419
Stop

>>33159415
Correct. It happened during a yard walk at the end of the night; I was filling in for someone else though because I normally work in the international department.

>>33159419
Unless you like to be shot once and die regardless of caliber that you were shot with because steel shards were sent flying into your throat.

>>33159425
I respectively refuse. Ceramic's great. Until it's not. Then your innards are shredded by ceramic shards

>>33159428
Le Spall coating. But I see your point

>>33159441
>Implying spall liners are effective
Not effective enough to stop, what, a recall every six months? Thanks AR500! Could also talk about 20" 5.56 55gr.

>>33159197
Tbqh, I feel like leg presses are a waste. I can easily max out the machine and do them to the point where I can fit more plates on the kind that use plates. I'm not even a mondo guy, I just think the lack of having to balance them or anything makes them easy for anybody with leg strength. Presses are what people who can't do squats well yet do.

If you are able to sqaut, time is better spent squating. Leg press is only good as an improvised heel raise machine IMO.

>>33159428
Weird number of you lot on /k/. I never seem to encounter Teamsters who are functional humans in person. I suppose that anything is possible in the internet.

>>33159457
I just do both, I use the one with plates though

>>33159462
Tried power cleans? Those are great full bodies when you get bored of squats or DLs.

>>33159460
>Teamster
Fuck that, I'm in management. Teamsters are weird because they're either super pro-gun conservatives/alt-right and they understand sometimes things need to go around the Union to get done efficiently, or they're like ridiculously loud liberal cucks who will argue politics on the job and grievance you for two minutes for picking up a package.

I think there might be an /o/tard in my building and maybe a couple of /k/ommandos, but I don't feel like asking them whether or not they go on Cambodian Claymation Content Creation Compilations Camps.

>>33159474
Can't do them at university gym
They get anal about weights moving to much

>>33159518
That sucks. All the variations of cleans are just jawsome exercises for the whole body. Keep them in mind when you don't have to worry about a Lunk Alarm.

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Fell free to R8 and H8 on my poorfag setup /gq/. I need all the advice I can get.

>inb4 get real brands

I've ditched the belt altogether and put the IFAK on my pack for use when I hike with it. I'm in the process of looking for a fanny pack to do an over the crotch IFAK with it. The SR9, which I love, is getting supplemented with something else more sturdy, a G17 is in the lead ATM.

PC is a Flyye FAPC with level IIIA panels in the cummerbund, I think they're 6" x 12", but I don't recall. Front and back are Level IV Highcoms. Pack is a Flyye ILBE assault pack with a 3L bladder in it, various topo and trail maps, the usual odds-n-ends. Radio is a UV-82HP with a NA-771 antenna and the extended battery pack. I've got the big mic for it that has an audio out to connect to my HL earpro. Normally I just use the small earbud it came with whenever I'm hiking. I like to keep an ear on the freqs the park rangers use.

>>33159197
definitely forget leg press, it's a shit

>>33159518

If there's more than one gym, go to the oldest one.

>>33159530
Will do
>>33159637
There isn't

>>33159645

I don't feel your pain. I go to a little 24/7 gym where I can do anything I want.

>>33159667
Used to do that, but if I'm paying gym fees then I'm using the damn gym

My Merrells literally just shat the bad. Rip.

>>33159705
Your Merrells shit in your bed? Did you rub their nose in it?

>>33159715
It's a metaphor my guy

>>33159689

Oh, I use it. 1.75 hours a session 4 days a week, ruck on the 5th.

>>33159732
I do an hour 5 days a week before class, back, chest, legs, arms, shoulders
Not gonna ruck cause my knees already suck

>>33156966
That shit blends amazingly in East Texas.

>>33157851
A canteen that holds 2 quarts. I carried one backpacking in Wyoming for a month. My maps, water, and aqua mira were always handy.

>>33159535
Thats not even that poor of a setup. I kinda like it.

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>>33159667
>tfw home gym master race

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>>33159864
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm kind of transitioning right now to make it lighter weight and a bit more maneuverable.

>>33160011
Why not drop the pc, keep the belt and get a CR

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>>33160115

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/GQ/ March Edition

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>>33160139

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>>33160153

>>33160124
>rip Khattab

sorry for your loss brother. May you and Abu Adbullah, and Abu Hajaar fight another day.

>>33160131
>cr
Im not familiar with that acronym yet. Oh! Chest rig? Well I hadnt really considered it, I mean right now Im in an urban area so I feel like if I had to call on my gear itd be wise to armor up. But my land im shopping for is out in the sticks so a CR could be fun. Got a recommendation on one?

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>>33160143
Is there someplace one could DL back issues?

>>33160136
kek
>>33160164
stale meme

>>33160171
I could upload them to imgur

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>>33160139
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>>33160159
good shit pham, keep it up

>>33160278
>MD-ADS
Any function issues? I think this and an ADM mount will be my tax return purchase.

Does everyone just use a regular carabiner for their gloves when putting them on your PC?

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>>33160312
>Any function issues?

nothing yet. i bought it on suggestion from a friend at a /k/ meet who said his has worked fine.

>Does everyone just use a regular carabiner for their gloves when putting them on your PC?

mine are clipped into my ifak strap

>>33160312
I've dropped mine multiple times, rolled it down a hill, and accidentally got spray paint specks on the glass. Works fine, no malfunctions. I put dot on target and it hits every time.

>>33160368
Is that the HSGI Bleeder? You running the UV-5R on MURS1? I always wondered what the go-to freq was for /k/.

>>33160312
I use a small S biner clipped to a tab on a medical pouch. On my issued kit I keep my gloves on a grimlok that keeps my CamelBak tube in place.

>>33158994
MOABs are shit.I bought them because everyone says theyre so great. Mine were trashed after 3 months of a job driving.

>>33160401
yes, yes, no. i don't give out our freqs

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LOW VIZ OR NO BIZ

>>33160426
My Merrell Yakotas (discontinued) are going on a year now, little tread wear at all. Maybe it's the Moab model that's the issue.

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>>33160434
Put it on faggot

>>33160440
the sole on mine was almost complete detached from the balls of my feet forwards. Definitely shit pile shoes.

For hiking I just wear Palladiums now. Heavy use would get Belleville 300s. Theyve always done the job. just heavyish.

>>33160434
We need to see the mother fucker on you

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>>33160434
not low vis enough

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>>33160500
Bunch of gays in here.

>>33160507
Touche.

Also finally got my "compact" ifak supplies. I still think the BFG is too micro even for a small blowout kit.

>>33160159
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>>33160143
>>33160139

10/10 top keks and knowledge bombs!
was looking forward to today!

>>33160278
>>33160757
Thanks goys

>>33159961

Let me guess, you've got a bench press, a pull-up bar, maybe an EZ-Bar and a Heavy bar, a few disks and dumbells, perhaps a few kettles and a fly rack?

>>33161042
I want to get a home gym once I buy a house, I figure I can get a squat rack that can double as a bench for barbell workouts and a set of dumbbells up to like 200

>>33161042
I have a power rack with a barbell and plates

>>33161055

Good on ya, but I was actually trying to highlight a lot of the issues with the home gym crowd.

You can get an excellent workout out of the world itself ie Charlie Bronson, but at the same time when using equipment, we tend to put ourselves in boxes. If you're using home equipment or home workouts to supplement a gym workout or other workout, Gucci, but a lot of folks have a home "gym" that is maybe four pieces of equipment scattered around a spare bedroom, shrinking your cage. When you're in a gym with a lot of equipment, you're more likely to say "Oh, look at that thing. I don't use that enough, let me work that in as my 7th circuit, it'll take five minutes and it'll be great"

Eh, everybody has their own thing.

T. 5'8 175 pound guy who became obsessed with getting bigger and succeeded but also lost 30 seconds on his run, making him only the fourth fastest in the platoon which lead to crippling self-questioning.

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>>33157851

5 quart > 2 quart. But 2 quart is OK.

>>33161055
>$200

I recently got a squat rack, bench, bar, couple of kettlememes, and plate weight set and it was more like $700 altogether.

>>33161158

He meant the poundage, you stupid motherfucker.

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>>33160153
>Shear amount of stupidity I see being spouted from somd dude who has never walked more than 12feet from his basement to his moms fridge in his gear.Some of the advice I've seen can be downright dangerous.
What did he mean by this.

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>>33160159
good stuff

>>33161134
Yeah that makes sense, I really only want a home gym so I can avoid the gym membership and I plan to live in a pretty rural area for the most part.
>>33161158
Notice how I didn't use a '$', that 200 is lbs
>>33161177
Roight
>>33161179
Thank

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>>33159428

It's not "steel shards" you mook, it's lead and copper jacket and it's not going to flay you alive, at worst it will shred your PC and cause it to fall off your rotund self and maybe leave some jacket splinters embedded in your skin. Which is still superior to getting shot. Until you get shot again with your PC already compromised...

>>33161211

You're a smart guy, though. So in addition to that, I know you'll be doing Farmer's carry, sandbag lunges, skull crushers, standing preacher's curl, and dumbell flies, etc. Not just curls and squats and bench.

Because you're not an idiot.

>>33161254
>You're a smart guy
That remains to be seen, but yeah, my thinking was the rack, bench, and weight setup was the bare minimum I would need to get a lot of different exercises in

>>33161240
In case you couldn't tell, it was a shitpost response to someone who's retarded. I understand what spalling is, I understand what it realistically will do, but the point is to shitpost someone who clearly has no fucking clue how ceramic plates work as evidenced by his statement on them.

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>>33161240
>implying the splinters wouldnt imbed themselves into your throat compromising your airway and possibly your artery.
look poorfag, we all don't actually want to kill ourselves
like shit man a ceramic plate in this condition can take a second hit without penetration.

>>33161297

Fitness is so dynamic. 6th months ago I was putting in 5-7 miles of cardio followed by 45 min of endurance training 6 days a week at 142 pounds. I was razor-cut, but it looked so gay.

SHould i go for a Alice/1950s rigging system or just invest in a belt?

>>33161309

No they won't, nowhere near enough mass and and the angle is all wrong unless you're in some sort of reclining position. Furthermore I didn't say anything about ceramic plates, I'm just calling bullshit on the spalling meme. Yes, spalling happens, no, it won't kill you. Full stop.

If you want to talk about ceramics, I had a buddy who took 7 rounds of 7.62x54r assaulting a compound in Ramadi. Miraculously all hit his front plate and all were stopped, he was still pretty bruised and battered but he lived.

>>33161179
>What did he mean by this.

Going to hazard a guess that the obsession with ruck running might be part of this.

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What can i do to reduce spalling without buying new plates?

>>33161685
spray them with linex truck bed liner.

Is the discord any good?

>>33161709
This, alternatively if you're a poor fag, freezer bags filled with jam, that way if you get hungry midway through operating you can pull out some crackers and have a little snacktical break

>>33161685
How often are you getting shot in the chest that you're only just now worried about spalling?

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>>33160312
Why not just get a Vortex sparc AR? They amount to the about same cost and Vortex is objectively better.

>>33161572
>no they won't

When you are talking about bullet trajectory, a fuck ton of different angles, and a shit ton of other factors that go into this kind of shit, there is no such thing as "that won't happen". Steel plates cause bullets to turn into baby grenades on your chest, that's a "pretty much anything can happen" situation, no matter which way you try to look at it.

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>>33161572
>angle is all wrong
don't see how, considering people will typically lean into the rifle and the head and neck will sit infront of the chest. theres no guarantee it would go there but theres no guarantee it wouldnt go there either.

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>>33161939
>Vortex is objectively better
>300-5,000 hours of battery life
git

>>33160223
Do it fag.

Also I'd buy paper copies of these for $2-5 a piece of they were printed on that nice magazine/wax coated paper.

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>>33160500
Alright faggots, best I can do for now. Ignore off-center belt buckle, was doing this in a jiffy to satisfy your low viz autism.

Fully stocked, left is best case, right is worst case side profile with a slight hunch and pulling the jacket tight. You can see the ifak and pistol mags printing a little on that one, which I'm not all too worried about.

>>33162025
On a non-special snowflake battery that's stupid easy to find and replace anywhere.

What's the warranty like on the MD-ADS? I could get bored, take my Vortex apart, then throw it through the blender, feed it to my dog, then send them the dog shit and I'll get a brand new one no questions asked.

>>33160115
Is this the new French Foreign Legion outfit?

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>>33162058
>Also I'd buy paper copies of these for $2-5 a piece of they were printed on that nice magazine/wax coated paper.
Noted, I'll look into what that would cost

http://imgur.com/a/MtNEN

>>33162101
That conceals pretty well actually

>>33161752
It's slower which is nice. It's not 90% shitposting like I expected. It's some sudden side conversations about posts in the thread or some other questions that usually don't deserve their own post which is nice.

>>33162163
Nah, that guy is waaay too white.

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>>33162327
That velcro underbelt really helps to cinch everything down and pull/angle it right up against the body. Pretty happy with how it turned out at this point. Good for concealing a decent loadout as well as competition and classes.

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I started with FDE on my first AR, then moved to black for the longest time. Now I'm returning to my first love. All FDE/Coyote for me with black touches starting now.

Does anyone have photos of a glock with a painted slide and a black frame? I can't seem to find any examples of that. I'm talking like rattle can, not anodizing or cerakoting.

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>>33162019

It might pepper your chin, it's not going to shred your throat. About the only way you'll see serious injury is if the bullet ricochets off the top edge of the plate and is still mostly intact when it hits you in which case it's not merely spalling anyway but a still mostly intact bullet with a fair proportion of its mass and kinetic energy intact. When a bullet hits a plate and shatters into spalling first a large portion of its energy is expended into the plate and the rest is divided equally into the uncounted tiny fragments most of which are much tinier and slower moving than a birdshot pellet. Even if you are injured by spalling it's still better than a perforated abdomen and one or more of the vital organs contained therein.

Personally I wrapped my steel plates in a double layer of kevlar from an old PASGT vest. Not that I futz with plates much, mostly I just wear my 3A kevlar OTV when I feel the need to wear armor. which isn't often.

>>33161956

>Baby grenades.

That's retarded.

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>>33162111
>entertaining the notion of ever having a battery fail on you
>needing a warranty

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>>33155227
For you

I'm planning on getting a Ruger LCP II this month and want to get a nice holster for it. I've read good things about White Hat Holsters from some sources and I like their custom Kydex options, but I saw a review on YouTube in which the Kydex cracked after a few years.

Do people suggest White Hat Holsters, or is there a better option for leather or leather/Kydex IWB holsters?

>>33162721
Wrong person, well it was for the guy who wanted pics of my D3cr

>>33162596
i got hit in the face by pistol caliber spall bouncing off a target 100+ feet away and it embeded it's self in my lip.

>>33162716
so why do you have BUIS?

>>33162759
because I got them first and shot with them for a few months before I got my PRO. Left them on because they improve the aesthetic

>>33162770
Do you like the aesthetic of the Primary Arms over the Vortex?

>>33162780
yea looks more like a aimpoint micro

>>33162804
so debate over. You like the Primary Arms more, I like the Vortex more. Godspeed.

>>33162716
>>33162759
>>33162770
i'd be less worried about that battery and more worried about the glass being shattered and unusable. every rifle needs iron sights.

>>33161685
I think you can buy covers for steel trash plates that are... Kevlar? I know AR500 sells them. that AND the linex could work... ok.

>>33162822
I mean I don't know why any sane person would go with 5,000 max hours of battery over 50,000 but more power to you I guess. I don't think the MD ADS is just superior in aesthetics

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What do you guys think of LBT's 3 day pack?

>>33163179
Idk if its been posted but LBT has a sale on right now good prices I think
http://lbtinc.com/mmc17?limit=all

>>33163179
They're having a sale on multicam or something like that (haven't taken a look).

For a "3 day pack" it's kinda small. It's basically a little larger than backpack size. Friend has one and if anything it's a day++ pack. It will easily pack stuff you need for 3 days for sure, but not any sleeping stuff or tents.

If you can get it sub $130-$120 it's worth.

>>33162739

I got hit in the thigh by a .50 BMG ricochet which left a slight bruise. Still have the bullet here somewhere.

>>33163168
208 days is more than enough for me. How is the PA one better?

>>33163237
They are $100 rn

>>33163257
shit nig you are lucky as fuck.

>>33163188
Oh lord help me, I don't need it, I don't need it

>>33163258
208 days on the lowest NV setting which is absolutely useless for any non NV tasks

the PA one offers you the option of setting it to an actually useful brightness, leaving it on and ready to use, and not have to worry about replacing the battery every month

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I just bought Hesco Level 4 4400 SAPIs for 360.

How did I do?

>>33163315
Same

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got to go out and talk some pic with this stuff on today but my parents were there and they were cringing pretty bad :(

i like my stuff tho, what do you guys think

>>33163354
*take

>>33163354
>These NODs
You got them to work?

>>33163354
fuck lmao i can only imagine their faces

its pretty interesting to have that set up being honest

but I dont really get the allure of old milsurp, to each their own for sure, but if you actually had to use any of that, id want the modern day sheet

>>33163315
This. I already have too much lbt shit... Pray for my bank account I might be going in.

>>33162101
Brett's nice. Need better pics of pistol side, that sticks out most for me.

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>>33157637
>Put the AR680 in a vest for your friend
He's actually farn, and best believe I have tried. This nigga won't buy plates of his own despite having a bigger paycheck, and is generally the epitome of 'mobility is survivability' despite weighing 2-3 stones more than me.
>crack a plate while training you probably will crack something more significant
agreed, but the swimmer's cut are so goddamn comfy and more than enough tbn
>inb4 train like you fight

>>33162721
ayy thank you scone. Ranger green right? How has it been holding up?

>>33163258
just wanna say that battery life aside, a lotta PA/holosun optics (mine included) have a fantastic auto on/off feature. If you stow it, it'll sense the slightest movement if you go to pick it up and turn itself on. After 8 hours being still, it'll turn off. You can adjust the time-out at hourly intervals (mine shuts off after 4 hours)

>>33163325
how much they weigh?

>>33163370
yes they do work, they are converted to take air-soft 9.6V batterys

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>>33163179
is there any reason not to get this to replace my medium alice? anyone know the internal capacity?

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>>33163425
The pistol is an OWB meant for concealed carry. It sticks out about the least of anything on that belt.

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>>33163405
most of it was cheap, i like German stuff too
>(i.e. the gas mask container , and both camo shit on the left is German parkas)
flak jackt was only $80 the NVs are $175 and they work

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>>33163477
7.8 lbs per plate. Im not overly concerned, Its not too different to what we use in the Army.

They should be solid, right? They are on sale for 180 a plate

>>33163317
so let's take the lower echelon of 300 hours. That's 12 and a half days. I like my AR-15, but no way in hell am I using that optic for more than a third of the month. I'm not using it at that setting, so I have even more time than that. I'm not arguing about battery life, obviously 5,000 < 50,000. But 12 days (at minimum) is fine.

>>33163477
>If you stow it, it'll sense the slightest movement if you go to pick it up and turn itself on
Wouldn't it never turn off then? If you're transporting it it's always in a state of motion.

>after 8 hours being still it'll turn off
The sparc has that feature too (except it's 12 hours)

>>33163477

what PC?

thanks

>>33162596
Your gif here
>>33161240
Proves that it sends shrapnel in all directions. Explain how that's not a baby grenade, expanding from your chest?

There is a reason everyone uses ceramic. The idea of compromised ceramics is retarded, there are so many fucking YouTube videos showing multiple hits of all kinds of rifle rounds on level IV plates. Almost Any where a level IV ceramic is gonna fail, steel will fail before it.

>>33163333
Do you have a timetable on your Rhodie stuff with Crye? I don't come to /gq/ at all but I'm thinking of getting some

>>33163550
Christ alive, that's a bad picture. I wanna get a better look at that Rhodie.

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>>33163550
Hesco 4400s are good, my local dealer swears by them and has beat the shit out of them.
>>33159287
>not speed assaults
One job Nick

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>>33163532
>OWB meant for concealed carry
just realize summerfags like me find this laughable. I'm not wearing a softshell or even a button down everywhere I go...

>>33163550
slightly better than average price for exceptional HESCO quality - did good farn

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>>33163579
I packed it away and its a shitty webcam cause phone camera is kaput and Im not dropping dosh on a new phone when there is ammo to buy.

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>>33163594
>>33163596
What a relief. I figured they should be good (At least better than steel plates) and comparable to regular SAPIs. The price was right and got paid today plus my tax return so Im about to make financially rash decisions.

Also
http://www.lifeandlibertygear.com/shop/hesco-armor-bi-4400-gl-10x12-level-iv-armor-plate/

>>33163597
That's fair. When you get the chance I would love a better picture

>>33163563
Shellback Stealth newfriend

>>33163557
>Wouldn't it never turn off then?
Pressing both the +/- buttons at the same time will turn it off and lock it. To turn it back on you press +/- again. But it is definitely sensitive enough that without locking it off it will stay on. It literally has to be lying flat on a carpet to turn itself off

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>>33163624
>http://www.lifeandlibertygear.com/shop/hesco-armor-bi-4400-gl-10x12-level-iv-armor-plate/
Actually my local dealer. You done good. That guy will sit there and talk carriers for hours and let you try on armor and carrier configurations with anything in the store. He is 100% based.

>have referred all sorts of people there
>atleast you + one other tripfag from /gq/ has bought plates from there

>>33163532
Sweet

>>33163642
Gotcha.

>>33163596
You do realize he wouldn't be wearing this as an everyday carry thing right? He uses this for comps and in case uh oh.

And you do realize this isn't an edc thread right? Do you even know where you are kid? Do you parents know?

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>>33163655
Word up, he has a new military customer if thats any consolation to him. Im excited to get these plates and give some substance to the Mayflower or the LBT, which as it stands have just govt issue SAPIs.
Alright, now for superfluous questions: Since i have more moeny than sense, Im looking for a good split front chest rig. Obviously the cheapest option is the best, but what are some options in Ranger Green that can accommodate 7.62 NATO magazines.

>>33163655
Wut state?

>>33163569

You don't understand how explosives work do you?

Again, I am not arguing against ceramic plates, ceramic plates are great. I'm just stating that the issue of spalling is hilariously overblown. As you demonstrate by comparing it to a grenade.

>>33163720
Im comparing it to a grenade in the sense of expanding, fragmenting shrapnel. If you really want to argue semantics, go back to the site that starts with redd and ends in it. The fact that it's all you can say in response shows how you know you are wrong.

Ay GQ, if I can run 5km w/o stopping, what would that typically translate into distance for a relatively full kit w/ plates and everything?

I'd expect about a 50% reduction, but I've never tried a distance run w/ gear because I don't have most of my stuff yet.

>>33163813
It's not directly proportional like that, really depends on how much you're carrying and how well your body is adjusted to holding extra weight. Have you ever backpacked?
Also no one runs a 5k in full kit.

>>33163642
>shellback

how do you like it? can't tell if the shoulder straps would be comfy and can't find reviews

>>33163813
Try it but I wouldn't pack run. It kills your knees.

You can time your 5k and time your loaded 5k. You'll be slower but I doubt that much slower. Pack running is just about more endurance assuming you have the leg strength to keep a good push going and can keep speed. Lactic acid will build a lot faster, and so will strain on your joints. The trick to being good at running with a load on is just be good at running in the first place.

>>33163829
This basically.

The usual bar is ~1/5-1/4 of your body weight in pack is the comfortable move around and not notice a whole lot weight, but that really depends on your body type and body weight. If you're some 200lb bigg guy then 1/4 of your weight is 50lb and you'll notice that for sure.

>>33163764

Nobody has ever been killed by spalling and getting peppered by spalling is better than being shot. If you can't prove otherwise you can bugger off.

>>33163829
Never expected to run a 5km in full kit, done some backpacking and ran 1km after completing a 4k, that's the furthest I've backpacked so far. I plan on experimenting more with backpack weights soon.

>>33163884
>nobody has ever been killed by spalling

I ignored the argument until now because it was retarded, but that is by far one of the most retarded things I have ever seen.

>>33163871
>tfw 200 pounds 6'5
Life is unfair some times.

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>>33163596
I carry IWB for concealed carry. Doesn't change the fact it's an OWB meant for low visibility you nerd. You gonna carry 2 AR mags, 2 pistol mags and an ifak under your tshirt too?
>just realize summerfags like me find this laughable.
You talk like a fag and your shit is definitely all retarded.

>33163902
That's a good weight for your size assuming it's muscle

>>33163477
Yep, pretty well no problems with it so far.
>>33163573
I wish I did, but they are currently sold out so good luck getting some.

>>33163914
Fuck does that mean I missed it or did it never happen?

>>33163911
Fuck
>>33163902

>>33163902
Keep it in perspective.
50lb is 50lb no matter who you are. If your pack is holding the same stuff as the next guy over and that's 30lb then it might be easier for you to carry longer than the 5'7" 140lb dude. So you won't be as high in % of body weight carried but you could carry more weight than other dude.

So assuming that's muscle and not "extra padding" then that's pretty impressive.

>>33163911
Well I'm sure as fuck not fat, but most of it is probably in my legs. I have some pecs and my arms are ok for my height but they could be better. If I go hard on my arms the 6'5 250lbs dream could be a reality lol

>>33163884
You don't know that no one has been killed by spalling from steel plates, and I don't either so idk why you continue to spout lies.

THE POINT KIDS, IS THAT YOU RUN THE RISK IF TAKING BODILY HARM BY USING STEEL PLATES IF YOU GET HIT. YOUR BODY CAN BE DAMAGED FROM YOUR BODY ARMOR DOING ITS JOB, AND THAT IS THE DUMBEST SHIT EVER.

>>33163934
I feel you, I'm at 215 right now and looking to get to 225 by May

>>33163923
You missed out but I might have a few more available but we will see.

>>33163959
Fuck, I knew it was a mistake not coming to /gq/

How much were UBACs and BDU pants when they were available? That was all I wanted really

>>33163966
Ubacs were $120, I never offered BDU pants

>>33163984
>Ubacs were $120

Ow my wallet. I thought it was Crye pants and BDU, was it only Crye cut then?

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Are level 3a bicep and drop leg 3a body armor worth getting?

I work as a LEO, usually have a level 3a vest on at all times. Wondering if anyone has any oppinions on extra level 3a armor such as this.

Useless? Expensive? Pointless? Not worth losing mobility? I really havent seen many people with this type of armor on.

>>33163997
They were only in G3 cut

>>33164013
Shid

Maybe if there's another run sometime I guess, I just spent most of my money on guns anyways

Thanks senpai

>>33164007
armorus maxiumus git out!

Me personally Id say its going to limit your mobility, as a LEO though it might be worth it. You aren't going to be engaging in week long patrols, or truly offensive operations.. If you are on a SWAT team or some sort of "raid" force, then it could be worth it.

I mean I wouldn't wear it everyday, Id only get it if you actually engage in tactical operations.. In which case id contact your seniors (Or more experienced people in the unit) that could offer you experiences they have had with this type of stuff.

As im not a LEO, I cant direct you 110%. Just my 2 cents I think its probably too much for daily activity. But just like a riot, police officers have gear for that specific problem. In which case if you had this in your trunk for an active shooter or something, that would be more effective.

>>33164007
I didn't think that most departments let police officers stray away from provided uniforms too much. Up to you if they do then.

Depends what and where you are in LEO. If you're a traffic cop in the hood and think that someone's gonna run up to your car and start putting shots through your window then maybe it's worth it. Not speaking to the LEO side of it but just the armor and use side of it that they're not useless perse, not terribly expensive but they'll be awkward to wear in every day use and you might not want to go around looking like riot police. Unless that's your job, or SWAT or something then up to you. Not gonna tell you how to look or do your job since that's up to your department.

>>33164026
We will see no promises, I need to put together a a news letter on my site

>>33163712
Colorado
>>33163702
Wise choices all around.

>>33164007
If you were doing riot shit then I'd get it

>>33164082
Yes you do, that would be awesome

>>33164007
If you aren't wearing it for more than like an hour while responding to a barricaded shooter or busted down a door, I guess- as long as the DAPS don't interfere with your shooting.

Any longer than that or walking any distance and they are real suck ass.

>>33164062
>>33164071
Thanks for the input guys. We do traffic stops all day every day. Just afraid someone is going to pull a pistol on me more then anything.

Again, I really appreciate the input. Armorus maxiumus it is.

>>33164114
Don't take it from some random's (or anyone on /k/), though. I'd ask around your dpt.

As for the armor itself also ask your dpt if there's a police contract company for buying armor if not then there should be some around for sub $200 a piece if not cheaper. Expect normal kevlar 3a for size prices.

>>33164114
Do full torso armor with plates. Then get something similar the POG (yes really) system to protect or legs arteries. Maybe battle belt with Kevlar inserts. I'd skip the arm and outer leg armor because you'll start to hate it fast.

>>33163179

I have one I use for work. Its a decent pack and for the money its awesomely built and the designs been around forever and works great. But like people have said its fairly small and the gay ass belt only works if you're a fat ass. Also this is probably my dumbass self doing something wrong but the flap over top of the zippers make it a pain in the dick to zip up some times. Also LBT is amazing as a company for customer support. Theyll do everything short of sucking your dick and cooking you dinner if you have a problem.

>>33163550
so fucking jelly

>>33164173
We wear big duty belts, can't get around that. Need room for 2 mags, OC (Mace), a baton, hand cuffs, and a radio. Pretty my agency doesn't mind 'Adding' armor but they don't want us messing with the gear that is standard on everyone. I'll be writing memos until the end of time explaining myself if I do that. Hehe.

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>>33163841
The straps themselves are made out of a thin material, like bicycle innertube but not stretchy. They're wide-set which is nice - never had issues with it chafing the neck. Carrier is very comfy overall - I blame the interior airflow mesh, shoulder straps, and cummerbund. This last piece is great - can hold 4 mags in the cummerbund alone (2 on each side). They included the 2 mag shingle (for free I guess?) so with 6 mags, you don't need much else; great if you wanna run shit like radio/IFAK on the belt.

Last little bits: It's swiftclip compatible (hence why I'm chatting up Trllz bout his D3CR), has a nice lil admin pouch, but overall very simple and robust. check it out bit DOT ly/2mMLco9 looks like they offer 4 colors including vanilla multicam (mine is ranger green)

>>33163914
good to hear. You mentioned it was a clone but I never remember the supplier, R-Karbid? or...

>>33164251
If you're really worried then, see if you can get a black version of the IOTV "buttflap" and groin flap to hang from your armor.

You can still wear Kevlar underwear.

I would still advise against Maximo arm and leg armor. Situational awareness provided through comfort is a legit factor.

>>33164223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA1mbZ_MMh8
>>33164289
This one http://www.ebay.com/itm/MBC-Russian-D3CR-H-Heavy-Tactical-Chest-Rig-Ranger-Green-/322007598317?hash=item4af92604ed:g:9I0AAOSwV0RXuo6o

>>33164290
>Situational awareness provided through comfort is a legit factor.

That is a really solid point, thanks for bringing that up. More worried about shots on the upper body from approaching cars then my legs however. Groin and butt Kevlar wouldn't do me much good. Thanks for the suggestion about the IOTV though, definitely made a note.

>>33164320
werd up thanks bby

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>>33164320
damn that is way cheaper than I thought too...

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>>33164237
Of the rhodesian?
http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/

Of the plates? I linked it higher up.

>>33164332
No- get the flap accessories DO. NOT. Get an IOTV. It's like a CIRAS made by retards.

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>>33164398
IOTV is mediocre yeah. CIRAS is pretty based.

But also, again, Idk how much they might let you wear stuff over or under your uniform.

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>>33164332
Late to the discussion but have you looked at Velocity Systems? Their law enforcement plate carrier is pretty cool. Can be configured to use on-carrier pouches/accessories or left naked to plug a chest rig into. Also has a thick line of velcro on front and back for some cool guy LE identifying patches.

https://www.velsyst.com/law-enforcement-plate-carrier.html

>>33164320

Bullshit you need one in every color LBT offers along with a matching go pack.

>>33164470
99% sure I am stuck with the vest given to me.

http://www.kdhdefensesystems.com/product/valor-copy-2/

Really strange vest, they ended up giving us level 3a inserts that wrap around, and an extra level ballistic insert for the front. Not even sure if I could get a plate in there without just placing it over the soft armor.

>>33164289
Man you put the gayest, worst filter on your pictures

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http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/rhodesian-type-grass-pattern-camouflage-fabric.aspx

If anyone here can tailor or knows a tailor and has the dosh.

>>33164520
That's funky. I'd probably say fuck the admin and just keep my own carrier in the trunk with front and back plates for active shooter/high threat warrant stuff. Then again, I'm not a cop.

>>33164654
Yeap. Theres a form for self-aquired body armor to be used. However it goes up the chain, and the chain dosn't like what they gave us to be 'discarded' from what I have heard. Only things like plates, and extra body armor can be added, and must be 3a+. We will see how much I can get approved over a few years. Thanks for your help and input Shark!

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>>33164524
jokes on you - no filter, Galaxy S5 cam is just shit and quality gets even worse when I downscale the image in GIMP (blurring makes the file 9000mb initially). I could wait for better weather/lighting but don't care that much, just vomit OC every now and then

I'll still fight if you wanna fight tho bby...

>>33164705
9/10 shtf kit senpai

>>33157776
you should get a low profile flashlight mount; doesn't that thing get caught on shit in the woods all the time?
>>33159535
get a PTT and wire it in to your earpro. Also consider a slimmer pistol belt instead of a battle belt. I made the switch to putting all my battle belt gear on an alice belt, excellent choice for the summer time. Would wear/10 otherwise; assuming your pack has water, spare ammo and food in it.
>>33161179
Nice to see a thermos in the pic. If you camp a lot check out dollar stores for 1L stainless steel waterbottles. I have a couple for boiling water in the woods in my ruck, a simple wooden toggle down the mouth of the bottle lets you hang it over a fire easily. Digging the carharts.

>>33164723
Thanks farn. Shit was taken the week before I broke my clavicle so SHTF is kinda scary rn

1/2

>>33163546

Lose weight, so that you may live to fight by our sides.

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>>33164897

>>33163624

Arizona as fuck.

>>33163596

I wear sleeves in all weather, so get fucked.

>>33156948
While I agree you aren't wrong on most people in this thread larping, plate carriers are not a meme. If you are very physically fit and have a good plate system then you'll be able to run a plate system. There are certain rigs that utilize your hips for support and allow you to carry on for longer distances.

>>33163532
The leather portion w/ buckles is pretty clever. Overall I love it. 10/10

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new pack

>>33165072
pls review

>>33165072
>molle
discarded

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>>33165072
Is that the LBT pack?

>>33165072
Good bag. Why grey?
I took the waist belt off as soon as I got it though.

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>>33164922
Central TX f a m

Fort Hood Area to be exact.

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>>33165096
LBT-1476A 3 day assault pack

retail ~$220
found on ebay new for $130

>pros
>LBT so its made very well
>comfy hip belt that is removable
>very nice strap retainers
>roomy for its external size
>smells like LBT goodness
>pouch for bladder
>straps are well padded
>fits well on top of PC

cons
>absolutely no extra internal organization, just 3 compartments (no pen holders, zipper pockets internally)

so far thats my only complaint, just received it today. its a 3 day pack so there isnt much to be expected of it but an expensive jansport tbqh

>>33165097
pic related

>>33165158
ya

>>33165160
>Why grey?
mas grey fetishism
>I took the waist belt off as soon as I got it though.
same

>>33164964
Please don't feed it

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>>33165223
arent those mags hard to get at under stress?

also pic related

>>33165342
they're pretty well wedged in there, im getting rid of that shingle and its being replaced with a KYWI triple pouch
>also pic related
dont tell me how to live

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>>33165342
Your picture elequently explains one of my most autistic pet peeves. Good work fampei

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>>33165361
Just get the mag insert famalia.

>>33164964

>plate system
>hes so deep into the meme that he has to call them an even more obscure term

>>33165342
I don't know if you guys know this but
>take up all the slack so it's as big as it can get
>take the last three inches and fold it to make a tab
>lay it flat all and fold in like you normally would
Then when your friend accidentally ND's into his leg
>deploy it
>unfold it
>loop around bloody appendage
>???
>profit
You had better learn how to properly apply it, but I won't go over that here.

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>>33165449
You tighten it around his neck while jerking him off right?

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>>33165414
I had it and didnt like it much, I think the esstac will be an improvement

>>33165449
Theres a thousand ways to skin a cat. Sometimes I prefer it to not be pre looped, as its harder to get it on a mangled leg.

Sometimes I prefer it to be pre looped around one, so I can apply it to my arm one handed.

The ones in the picture are used for training (Hence the immense amount of damage to the left one), and they are used for demonstration.

Trust me if I had a dollar for every time Ive applied a TQ id have like three LV-MBAVs by now

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>>33165495
It's a very good pouch, better than the kangaroo pouch for sure but I have it so I might as well use it plus it cuts some width off the front since it's built in to the carrier compared to just double stack pouches.

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>>33165476
You going to the campout?

>>33165223
((lbt)) sells some internal organizers that arent too bad. The small works for the 3 day pack.

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>>33165223
Every time you try to bully me I will think of this image.

>>33165573
>((lbt)) sells some internal organizers that arent too bad. The small works for the 3 day pack.
of course its an add on, the bastards

>>33165579
>gorka + bendomatic
>trying to bully
come back in ten years

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>>33165603
Why would I bully you Psi? everyone on /gq/ is buds

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>>33165627
im not your dude, bro

>>33165223
>>33164705
>>33164289
>>33161179

I appreciate the lack of camo in these loadouts. Ive been transitioning out of camo utes recently.

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>>33165653
Why

>>33165693
Im not operating inna environment where I reallllly need camo. If shtf or something and I had to operate outside with my gear, id likely be conducting a checkpoint or neighborhood patrol, in which case camo doesn't really make much of a difference, aslong as you arent wearing high vis colors, your movement will likely give you away at first glance.

Also if I go to a range I can wear my shit and not look like a MSW airshitter at the local outdoor range, or innawoods nearby, on the off chance someone was there id look like a total sperg (>Inb4 caring what anyone thinks)

>>33165693
What you have in that pic is basically more what im doing now. Im also trying to stay away from super tacticool stuff nowadays, so i can wear this shit in public aswell.

Im more concerned about the material and technology of the fabrics and products, than what camo it is now, that way I can spend 300$ on a jacket I can wear in more places besides innawoods larping with multimeme everywhere.

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DYEO /gq/?

http://raven-concealment-systems1.mybigcommerce.com/eidolon-clear-limited-edition/

>>33165821
rcs wat r u doin

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Bleh bleh bleh expedient camo.

>>33165783
Buy 100 yards of burlap and wrap all of your people in burlap. Now everything is camouflage and you can wear it outside sans burlap.
>>33165821
>not cutting a window in your slide so you can chamber check by looking at your holster

>>33164289

thanks and looks comfy, but how tall are you, looks like it rides a *little* high?

What electronic hearing pro do I get /gq/?

>>33166305
Howard if you're poor
Sordins at a good price
Comtacs if you're ballin

>>33166343
Pretty much this.

>>33156882
/k/ discord, not specifically gear queer.
https://discord.gg/65WAb

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>>33165223
>psi's thigh gap

>>33166380
Isn't it a huge pile of shit? People keep saying it is.

And is basically an /arg/ trip circle jerk.

>>33166394
This one is new, it has something for everyone.

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>>33166387
not for lewd

>>33166444
Too late, it has been archived for later use

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>>33166467

>>33164289
5'11 170lb
Would not be surprised if it looks a little high. Ultimately the top of my plates sit right below my neck's v-notch (probably just 2-3cm below). Sadly I can't find a pic where my sling isn't obscuring this...

I'll assure you I have more than enough length on the shoulder straps to loosen it, if you think it's necessary for your build

>>33163942
Take hit
>no plate and it goes inside you
>steel plates with possibility of Spalding that ends up hitting you and seriously injured

I'd rather take my chances with the plate.

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>>33166495
:^)

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>>33166573
remove this from the internet right now

>>33166566
How fucking poor are you? More to the point, how stupid are you?

>>33163594
I need high top boots for work, so the quests were what I got. I might get a set of their jungle boots though thanks to getting a dank discount :^

>>33166663
Plates<your fat tubby manchild flesh you normie.

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>>33165223
Skinny
Setup looks good though.


Basically brand new AWS OCPC size large Multimeme with Hesco XL 11x14" Multi Curve Ceramic Level IV plates for sale in CO
[email protected]

>>33166566
Consider a set of steel plates also adds 10-15 pounds.

There's plenty of spooky guys not wearing plates in non-DA roles.

>>33164916
I have to say this is one of the better poorfag rigs I've seen. Any reason your belt is black?

>>33166759
Low key color, easy to match, I can always paint it tan for 90s Delta vibe, and it absolutely triggers parroting autists who act like a speck of black will get you killed instantly.

>>33165573
Doubtful man. Never really been too interested in /k/ meets. No offense to anyone in particular.

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>>33164773
>you should get a low profile flashlight mount; doesn't that thing get caught on shit in the woods all the time?
talking about my pen light?

>Nice to see a thermos in the pic. If you camp a lot check out dollar stores for 1L stainless steel waterbottles. I have a couple for boiling water in the woods in my ruck, a simple wooden toggle down the mouth of the bottle lets you hang it over a fire easily. Digging the carharts.
Got some Nalgene stainless steel bottle, I would have been stoked if I found some stainless steel water bottles a dollar store but didn't and went with the more expensive option.
I have DIY bail handles conjured out of some MIG wire on those water bottles too.
Those Carhartt Force Extreme cargo pants work real well for the outdoors.

>>33165653
plain clothes is best clothes.

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Local dude has these two eagle web-harnesses for sale, but neither him or myself know what models they are.

Can someone help me identify them? I think they're older, as they look more crude (or low drag, as yall call it) than what the h harnesses are today.

Value?

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>>33167178
Also don't know what this is. Sorry to eat image limit, but as a tripfag, despite just visiting, I feel as it's my job to post unnecessary pics.

>>33167213
>calls himself a tripfag
then hurry up and actually trip so I can filter you

>>33166566
>steel plates with possibility of spalling* that ends up hitting you and seriously injuring you, and fucks you up right before the other guy shoots you in the face
>ceramic plates with no possibility of spalling, hopefully allowing you to kill the other persons before they kill you

I'd rather take my chances with the C E R A M I C plate.

>>33167273
Cheers.

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Just need to add some pistol mag pouches

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When is someone going to make one of these, but with three columns of molle instead of a pouch?

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>>33164880
im working on that, need to pay a visits to /fit/

>>33167526
why? They're designed to go under a cummerbund where it won't be floppy as shit.

>>33167178
WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE

I've spent the last half hour trolling through tetrapeak and worthpoint, can't find anything like them.

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>win an auction on some PCU gear
>>33166722
When we operating? Also check out >>33163624