Leftist /k/ Thread

>>33107867
>Are we going to see more radical leftist militias in the coming years?
no they're too busy getting raped by the shitskins they're trying to help.

It's actually really frustrating that i align with leftist policies like cheap medical care and helping the poor and shit and then they always pull shit like restrict gun rights or let in muzzies like fuck man i want to vote for you but jeez.

>>33107893
Fpbp

>>33108027
cuck

>>33108049

are you conditioned to call people cucks when they have different views than you?

>>33108027
This is why I always laugh when non-US friends of mine talk shit about lol two party system and slobber on all their micro parties. Seems to me the intended outcome is the same: free health care, complimentary rapes by Ahmed, and no guns.

>>33107867
get out

>>33108072
The opposite being, no free health care, complementary rapes by Tyrone and guns.

>>33108072
But i'm not talking about Us i'm talking about Finland :/

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>>33108027
>helping the poor

I don't need your help, just stay out of my way and let me make my own way.

Also I hope commies start getting ornery, I've got a bone to pick with them for what they did to my family.

>>33108099
The second option lets you fend off rapes, broseph.

>>33108119
I don't think the average /k/uck is the ones needing to worry about getting raped.

>>33108117
If you wanna stay homeless then that's fine but i think that there should be a way out of homelessness provided by the government.

>>33108068
No, just conditioned to call people cucks when they are cucks.

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I just care about the environment, dammit.

>>33108126
I guess I'm gonna have to take back a bit of what I said about the government, I was homeless but the government did end up providing a way to get out of it.

Joined the military, did some growing up, saved some money and got out, drifted a bit and now I'm finally starting to get settled with the money I saved and what I earned from working.

It built character really, made me want to work as hard as I could to never want to be homeless again and to not depend on anyone ever again.

Damn shame about the taxes in my state though, half my fucking paycheck goes to shit I don't even use or intend on using.

>REEEEEE STOP TAKING MY FUCKIN' MONEY

>>33108156
Yeah man why can't there be a leftist party or presidential candidate or something who is for environment, affordable healthcare, helping the poor and so on but who doesn't have a hard-on for white guilt and restricting weapons.

>>33108125
>not wanting a greasy, maladjusted, possibly autistic /k/ommando as your mindbroken slave

>>33108171
Yeah how dare the government take taxes from me, even though they got me out of homelessness (of which was my own fault) and then fed and clothed me and paid my wages.

>>33108214
Some /k/uck is actually sitting down right now masturbating to that idea.

>>33108199
But there IS right wing parties who stand for that.

>unironically thinking people on this board care about your political opinions

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>>33108225
I see it more like this for that, I signed a contract giving them 4 years of my life, time I'll never get back, put my life in danger doing the shit I had to and risk serious bodily harm all while following their rules and regulations.

In return they pay me, give me the basics such as a room, access to prison food and a uniform, and pay for 36 months of schooling.

Also, I still payed taxes while in with the exception of when I was in the middle east, so does that mean I was paying for my own paycheck?

And I'll talk shit about the government all I want, I know they can't organize for shit so why would I want them to have more control and power?

>>33108252
where

inb4 libertarian party

wat is allep0

I'm worried about the state of political thought in general. I know that pretty much everyone is a fucking political retard ages 16-28 but things really seem to be getting worse, if you observe discourse on the internet and use it as a "canary in the coalmine" it seems like most people are Commies or Nazis. I know that in real life people tend to be more moderate but it seems like more extremist elements are gaining momentum.

>>33108309
>I signed a contract
you have no right to complain

>>33108352
I fulfilled it you commie faggot, I can bitch all I want now

>>33108322
Well if you're American you're fucked. Pretty sure the Jews in government would put an end to any sort of right wing party.

>>33108369
I'm no commie, you sound like the commie.

The US government has been one of the most anti-communist groups in the world but here you are complaining about them giving you a job when you were homeless.

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>>33107867
I'm looking forward to the time when I can line ditches with commie corpses.

>>33108027
I used to be like you too.
You have to realize that those poor people hate you too. And the people most advocating for cheap or free healthcare are the ones who make poor life choices like getting fat or smoking.

>>33108199
What about me who never made bad decisions and who pays in way more than I get out? I don't give a shit about other people, I only want to help myself. I'd be better off on my own.

>>33108401
It's very communist of them to take such a large part of my pay check. It's very communist of them that I should have to pay for other people's things.

>>33108401
I don't hate the military but I'd be lying if I said I enjoyed every moment of it.

The government recently hasn't been so keen on being anti-commie or socialist, I'm dissatisfied with them for that.

At least in the military I was putting in my time and earning the paycheck I got, equating that and some welfare queen with 5 kids raking in the dough through welfare and tax returns while working minimum wake is retarded.

>>33108509
>means of production still in private hands
>communism

I guess you didn't really use that GI bill

>>33108333

It's been hip and trendy to be a "radical" leftist for a while now; a movement born of the FUCK YOU DAD I DON'T WANT TO GO TO CHURCH I'M AN ATHEIST crowd that never really grew up when they turned 18.

There is no organized radical right wing in the US anymore. Corporate media simply reports on anyone who is conservative and excited about being conservative as being WN or a Neo.

There are those of us who would fit into a "radical" right wing mold but don't wear the WN or NS ideological coat, and we don't make waves. Plenty of great people that you wouldn't imagine are incredibly right-leaning and willing to fight and die for it.

>>33107902
F A K E N E W S

>>33107867
I highly doubt it. leftists in general range from moderates who enjoy guns, like my self. I like the idea of universal health care. I don't think muslims are a menace any more than any other organized group of people.

The radical left seems to come in two forms SJWs and anarchists. neither of which really "get shit done" see attack-the-garbage-cans.jpg

The left really doesn't like violence.

>>33108583
cuck

>>33108560
>It's been hip and trendy to be a "radical" leftist for a while now

yeah because lots of people grew up with irritating conservative parents, so it only makes sense that kids would want to be the opposite. now people are tired of irritating liberal parents/peers and they change their stance.

>>33108608
>dont you mean:
C U C K

>>33108703
god these death squad memes are grade A premium cringe.

>>33108027
(hugs anon)

I feel your pain...the pain of the populist leftie.

>>33108719
says a lot that these drooling retards would actually cheer and go on about death squads, throwing people out of helecopters, and fetishize pinochet, an authoritarian dictator.

too dumb to ever think that they would be the ones getting thrown out of helecopters too.

saddest thing is, 70 years ago, their own grandfathers fought and in many cases, died to defeat that sort of right-wing government.

>>33108309
oh shut up you welfare queen.

>>33108461
can you build your own roads?

>>33108049
>>33108608
>>33108623

How do I convince 4chan's developers to sed cuck into duck.

>>33108809
>Give up healthcare to the state
>give up financial planning to the state
>i'm sure they won't take my right to own guns too

Only naive idiots thinks that they could sequester government growth and encroachment.

>>33108352
Quite the contrary - he earned the right to complain.
There's a saying you've never heard: "Joe ain't happy if he ain't bitching."

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>>33107867
>f*ck yeah.
It will most likely look like this: The West Coast and the Northeast Coast vs dumbfuckistan. Be prepared, most submarine bases are in blue states.

>>33108843
at the end of the day it doesn't matter whether its righties or lefties being thrown out of the heli. hell i I get being ironic and baiting people on 4chan, but the more that shit goes around some ass hats going to straight up timmothy mcveigh again and killing kids inorder to stop abortions is fucking retarded.
>inb4 false flag
I tell people on the left that if shit ever seriously goes down hill interms of autocracy that there are many people on the right that have absolutely zero support for any dictator. not sure whether they believe me.

I know that

>>33108117
>i don't need your help
Stfu dude free gibs

No seriously, I'd never be able to go to college without my state level scholarship
>t. engr major

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Stay woke lefty /k/

>>33109035
shits cringy as fuck.

left libertarians need to learn to change shit from with in the system. the right libertarians learned that long ago and are strides ahead this year.

>>33108620

I grew up with parents that made me go to church with them until I had my license, at which point it became my choice and I stopped going. I don't necessarily subscribe to any religion, nor do I really care enough to put any thought into it. I basically just let everyone do their own thing while I do mine and when I die I'll find out who was right and who was wrong.

What's really obnoxious and insufferable is people who rail against religion in public, unsolicited and people that waste others' time by doing so. The rest of us have shit to do, don't fuck up our day because you're angry at Jesus.

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>>33107867
Ok So who wants to seduce the president's daughter (Tiffany)?

>>33108903

Having driven around much of the US off of interstates (as well as most of the interstate highways actually), neither can the government.

>>33108401
>The government gave you a job
Stop with this fucking bullshit. A job is not a gift, it is an exchange. I give up time and labor, they give up money and benefits. It'd be a decent system if I didn't have to worry about the cost of living or if I could trip over a job paying a living wage on my way to and from the smoke shop, but the game's changed.
>>33109084
I was talking to a friend about this. There was a debate between Noam Chomsky and William F Buckley about Vietnam. Noam was right on just about every issue, it was embarrassing, and Bill trying to misdirect or misquote a fucking master of linguistics on his own book was priceless.

Thing of it is, we're clearly living in a world that Buckley helped shape and, for the most part, supports. Chomsky was never that successful nor influential. "Do you want to be right or do you want to win?"

Noam was right. Bill won.

>>33107867
Gotta admit she looks sexy as fuck

>>33108935
Until you realize that the bases you're relying on are most definitely not staffed by leftists, and your precious politicians have done everything possible to disarm your civilian populations.
Who's going to save you now?
The police you spit on?
Stay in school, anon.
Its safe there.

>>33108553
kek

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>>33107867
No.

Chinese want war, no time for hippies.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/24/fox-news-investigation-dod-funded-school-at-center-federal-probes-over-suspected-chinese-military-ties.html

>>33109344
i want a radical bitch. the passion, yet utter futility gives me a stiffy. all leftists are like little girls trying to get their way with daddy.

>>33107867
FYI, liberals are not leftists, Bernie is not a fucking socialist, communism has never been achieved and every socialist country worth its salt was in avid support of arming the working class (PRC, USSR until mid-stalin era). Also every fucking non-trotskyist knows the USSR decayed into capitalism in mid-50's, Kruschev was a counterrevolutionary pig and Mao was the only one that held out until the PRC caved from external pressure from thd US and Europe and turned into this bullshit revisionist "socialist" state we have today. Also Fidel was alright but his deals with Kruschev and the US are fucking shady and Cuba shouldn't be idolized by the western Left but it should be defended as a sovereign state that existed in defiance of every one of it's molesters.

>>33109517

NO TRUE SCOTSMAN/10.

>>33109528
Communism is a classless, stateless society and is the goal of socialism. Was there ever an absense of state power in any country, ever, who was called communist? Try harder you reactionary parrot.

>>33108916
FUND IT

>>33109481
its really weird. They're always the ones that want you to spit on their faces and smack them.

>>33109481
See: Maoist struggles in India, Peru (non shining path), Indonesia, Phillipines and literally a dozen other revolutions taking place. The idealized notion of socialism that western liberals cling to doesn't exist, the people fighting these wars realized that peaceful revolution was nonsense.

>>33107867
kill yourself

>>33109084
Trying to change firmly entrenched organizations from within is a fools errand.

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>>33109558
Watch out we got a bad Bakunin over here.

>>33109558
What about Ukraine 1917-1922?

>>33108125
I didn't realize the 2A only applies to autistic males

>>33109706
Not the guy you're arguing with btw

>>33109517
if mao was a real socialist I definitely dont want anything to do with that bullshit ideology and no sane person would want to either. Fidel was also fucking crazy with his camps and firing squads.

why do people try to defend this bullshit?

>>33108789
best post itt

>>33108117
>pinochet final boss
>I'VE GOT A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU

>>33108461
You could always build a house and become an eremite self-sustainable farmer innawoods.

>>33107867
Hello and salutation my fellow Communist brother!
Heh- all these trolls.

As lonely autistic young college student I don't have friends, is there any commie group I can join?

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>>33109558
Marxism-leninism relies on a state you raging faggot
There are smith's capitalist ideals that aren't met either (conscious consumerism, minimalist gov't) but we still accept that capitalism has been tried

>>33108917
One day someone will find a way to stop the cycle anon. Either that or we'll nuke each other into oblivion.

State capitalism i.e. fascism, national socialism and any country in which the production belongs to the state and not the people is not communism.

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>>33110335
I'd pull out the ol' "my perfect brand of communism hasn't been tried.jpg" but I can't find it in my folder so have a sam hyde instead.

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>>33108441
fckin A

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>>33110395
State capitalism isn't a bad thing if it's actually working towards socialism and later communism but usually that never happens because of outside forces or corruption.

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>>33108027
>leftist policies like cheap medical care
Expensive private healthcare is caused by excessive government regulation, not lack thereof. I'm not against regulation, I'm against having too much of it because ultimately the consumer eats the cost.
>but muh free healthcare
Those systems are not without their vices.

>and helping the poor
What are private charities?

The way welfare is constructed in the US right now is shit, and has contributed to a lot of socio-economic problems. Single mothers on welfare are incentivized to have more kids than they can manage due to benefits, and since there's no second parent around to look after the kids while the mom is working, they get into drugs and gangs and shit.

I'm just glad I can use the term "commie" in a derogatory manner for real without referring to a ghost of the USSR or some short Chinese man in Best Korea.
My cousin is a Marxist. His gf is even more so. It's sort of sickening that they think everyone should have to give up their stuff just to be "fair".

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>>33109517
>>33109558
>>33110571
>STATE CAPITALISM
It's almost as if communism and "state capitalism" are one in the same. Kys commie filth.

>>33110800
Read a book, in fact read several. Then maybe you'd know the actual difference instead of just memes.

>>33110924
We've already read your little red book ivan.

>>33109517
>Mao was alright
If I ever meet you I'm going to shoot you.

>>33110571
Still, every example of state capitalism that has thus far been tried do not in any way appeal to me. I'd sooner eat a bullet than live in any of them.

>>33111277
Then work to help make sure oppressive state capitalism doesn't happen. In the end we all just want to be free. Be it free from corporate exploitation or free from statist exploitation.

>>33109035
(crisp high five)

>>33109162
get out of the South-East edge-lord.

>reads thread

if American civil society has reached the point where decent public-schools, good infrastructure and not letting banks own everything = communism we deserve to drown in an ocean of our own blood.

>>33108509
>communism
That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

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>>33108583
>F A K E N E W S

saged

>>33108608
kys, faggot

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>>33108027
I know that feel laddie, Can't stand lefties because almost all of them are CURRENT YEAR cucklords that want to make mean words illegal and "pronoun eduacation" mandatory in public schools and I can't stand righties because they're almost all either ancap faggots that think giving major companies free run to regulate themselves is totally a good idea or straight up fascists that want everyone whose not a direct clone of them to be executed.

Fuck politics man, I always joked about wanting to run off to the mountains as a kid but the longer this shit drags on the more serious that joke gets.

>>33108126
>there should be a way out of homelessness provided by the government.

Why? If the government didn't make you homeless, it has no business getting involved in your housing status. You're advocating for total abrogation of personal responsibility, letting the government pay for all of your bad decisions.

When I was living in my car, I worked my ass off to get a roof over my head and have regular access to a shower. I also learned from my mistakes and grew as a person. That's what life is like.

Living under an umbrella of the benevolent nanny state creates a society of infantile dindu nuffins, who indeed dondu nuffin. Ever.

It'll take them 50 years of buying guns and ammo to get fire parity with right-wingers.
And, trust me, most of them would get PTSD from even seeing a firearm IRL. So don't think they'll all turn into Charlton Heston overnight.

Ultimate LOL Note: Lefties buying guns will make them support 2nd Amend. politics, or give up their guns.

>>33112039
>Why? If the government didn't make you homeless, it has no business getting involved in your housing status.

This isn't actually true.
(Don't think I'm a libtard - here's just my position)
In my state (NH) you can buy a piece of land for almost nothing - especially in the north section of the state. But to legally live there (in almost all towns / townships) you need:

Power
Water source
Driveway
Septic / sewage

To build you need:
Land survey
Environmental impact study
Site survey

So while the government says you need X amount of money to live on the land you paid for, and you can't cough up the money to meet their standards, it's arguable that they are putting up demands to meet their standards, but offering nothing in return except the promise that you'll pay real estate taxes after paying out the ass to meet their standards, despite the fact that:

Not everyone needs a driveway
You can get clean water from springs on the land, or other sources
You can compost your waste
You can live off the power grid.

So if your homeless but they put the price of a home into the stratosphere, they need to help you get on your feet.

>>33112110
Buy a mobile home.

But I say, as long as you have a full time job it's okay if big brotha gives you a hand.

>>33112171
Besides the fact that mobile homes still require all that I mentioned, most towns have banned them.

>>33108231
why do leftist memes suck so bad

>>33112188
Eh, what gets me is the people on "State Disability" with 7 children, paid for by my tax dollahs.

I think federal assistance should be reserved for those who work.

>>33112059
They only support the constitution when it's convenient. Let's say they buy guns then accomplish their goal you know they will then melt them all or ban them from conservatives or some shit. They have no principles and bend like a reed with the political wind so it fits their agenda.

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I just want to see triggered right wingers coming to grips with the fact that electing Trump opened the door for actual left-wing politics in America.

>>33112237
>Describing literally any politically polerized person
>Not understanding the irony of that statement, after supporting a moron like trump

>inb4 u don't lik trump cause libcuck
No, he's stupid. You're stupid if you can't see why he's stupid.

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>>33110395
Well, "my brand" of communism (actually, state socialism, since there was a state, money, an army etc) worked pretty great until a change in leadership put nationalistic faggots who received fat wads of US Dollars in charge.

You know, stuff like having an impoverished, war-torn country become a regional economical, industrial and military powerhouse, creating a collective identity to end centuries of ethnic blood feuds, keep good relations with both blocs during the Cold War, relying for defense on the army and an armed militia which kept the weapons in apartment buildings, being praised as successful by fucking Forbes magazine itself... all of it founded on one of the most badass insurgencies in human history.

Yugoslavian communist party best communist party.

>>>/pol/

>>33112245
Glad you posted Luanne, she's a perfect example of what the radical left in America is.

A bunch of dumb white bitches trying to fit in and screwing themselves over in the process.

>>33112245
>losing the Presidency, House, Senate and Supreme Court opened the door for leftist politics
Yeah sure thing bud lmao, your message of transgender illegal immigrants and endless welfare really struck a chord with the American working class voters who you claim to represent the interests of
Oh wait

>>33108027
>cheap medical care and helping the poor
I don't understand, how is this """left"""? It's just basic humanity, do right wingers actually hate the poor and universal healthcare?

>>33112272
>polerized
>insulting someone else's intelligence
O i am laffin

>>33112351
>Oh wait

Your making the same mistake Hillery Clinton made. Don't ignore the angry people.

Meanwhile, Trump is trying to pick fights with marijuana users and ranting at the media. And Comiezonia has a bill that will effectively end the right to protest (Arizonias flag looks communist too, coincidentally). Public schools will get defunded so religious schools can get tax money. Net Neutrality will end. War in Iran is looking very possible.

Its the perfect storm of unpopular policies. Republicans are getting boo-ed out of town-hall meetings over obamacare.

>>33112368
>do right wingers actually hate the poor and universal healthcare?

Yes.

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>>33110924

You know how you can tell an edgy Che-Tshirt wearing pampered teenage Western poser from the real Communist?

The real Communist would never tell someone to read a book. They know that the majority of the proletariat masses are politically apathetic and illiterate, and therefore recognise the necessity of active political instruction, which they should ideally control.

You're just a pasty white, little progressive shit cunt. Probably a fucking Ameripig as well. You dirty fucking white boi

>>33108027
>helping the poor
>leftist
I think you mean "keep the poor from being anything other than poor"

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>american politics

>>33112429
>You're making the same mistake Hillary did
Shitting on white people and being surprised when white people don't vote for me? Do you realize how easy it was for Trump to win? All he had to do was tell the coal miners and steelworkers he'd get their jobs back. That's all it took lmao. Hillary's 1 billion dollar PR scheme couldn't come up with the simple fact that doing things that improve white working class people's lives gets you votes.

But of course in your liberal drug-addled brain you think a Socialist Revolution™ is right around the corner, even though the working class hates you. You'd be half-right, because a National Socialist one is. When lefties try and recruit working class people for their "glorious worker's uprising" they get the shit kicked out of them so hard they have to go to the hospital. America hates you.

why do you hate free markets so much ;__;

apparently SLA fighters would tip their bullets with cyanide thinking it would poison

they all burned to death in a stinking basement crawlspace after firing hundreds of rounds and injuring nobody

>>33112528
>Shitting on white people and being surprised when white people don't vote for me?

What?

>Do you realize how easy it was for Trump to win?

Not easy at all.

>All he had to do was tell the coal miners and steelworkers he'd get their jobs back.

Well see how that works out.

>But of course in your liberal drug-addled brain you think a Socialist Revolution™ is right around the corner

Nay, more of a open discussion over left-leaning politics as part of the overall political discourse, instead of just neo-liberalism from both parties. Though I do expect the democrats to beat the repubs next election unless the republicans stop it with the unpopular policies.

>When lefties try and recruit working class people for their "glorious worker's uprising" they get the shit kicked out of them so hard they have to go to the hospital. America hates you.

So much drama out of you.

>>33112272
>my opinion for reasons
>you are dumb for not sharing my opinion
>no, I won't explain my reasons

Makes me doubt you have very good reasons anon. If you have any at all.

>>33112368
No, we just realize that the amount of resources is limited and they should be given to people who earn them.
The best way to help poor people is to give them the opportunity to earn.

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>>33112576
>Well see how that works out.
Well it won him a Presidential election soooooooooooooooo....
>open discussion over left-leaning politics as part of the overall political discourse
> I do expect the democrats to beat the repubs next election
Well the Democrats are defending 10 states that Trump won in the Senate sooooooooooooooo...
>So much drama out of you
What a childish non-argument. Pic related is what happens when you idiots try and talk to working class people.

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>>33112487
The majority of Americans may not be class conscious but they're not illiterate. I was specifically telling that anon he should read up so he knows what the hell he's talking about. What do you think most protest are for? Antifa may be in it to riot for shits and giggles but there are organizations that try to educate and help the proletariat.

>>33109245

This is copypasta. Have read these exact words before.

>>33112610
>Well it won him a Presidential election soooooooooooooooo....

So if he can't actually do that, that would be unfortunate for him, huh. It would definitely cost him the re-election on that issue alone if he doesn't deliver. Maybe he can make coal competitive again, maybe.

>What a childish non-argument.

I don't know what you mean, as that was a reply to a bunch of insults hurled at me.

>Pic related is what happens when you idiots try and talk to working class people.

Wow, those teens were real brutes. Glad I'm not a leftist or a trumpist retard. Only a moron believes the working class as a whole is good for anything other than wage-slavery.

>>33112706
>proletariat

Your helicopter is waiting.

>>33112724
Really!? I always wanted to take a helicopter tour of Chile!

>>33108027

Gee mate.

Sounds like you're a national socialist.

Really activates the ol' almonds.

>>33112756
Nah, he sounds like he likes freedom.

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It's human nature to not want to share so any socialist/communist government requires a strong central government (often authoritarian) to enforce socialist policies. That's also the reason why anarcho-communism is a pipe dream.

Anyways, the problem with entrusting so many responsibilities and power to a central government is that they will eventually become corrupt with so much power and wealth.

That's the main flaw of far left governments. They just become self-serving dictatorships or they just implode from its own weight. "Real communism" was tried many times and failed dictatorships are the products.

>>33112576
>unless the republicans stop it with the unpopular policies.

You live in a media bubble. Building a wall, banning mudshits and telling libtard media to go eat shit is what your working class wants from Trump.
Given that you argue like a woman I assume you, like the rest of the /leftypol/ retard squad, have never been a part of the working class in your life.
The best part is you imagine yourself as a part of the Vanguard. Can you imagine the group of loser feminized "men" with twigs for arms from /leftypol/ leading a workers revolution when they have never worked a real job in their life? All under the banner of egalitarianism and camaraderie with muslim invaders that want to rape their women and "muh dick" dindus who can't wait to ditch this march so they can rob all these now empty homes? You are a manchild playing pretend politics with ideas no one outside of the urbanite hipster sphere of upper middle class pseudo intellectuals even remotely likes. Go LARP somewhere else.

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>>33112795

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C O M M I E S O N L I G H T P O L E S

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>>33107867
I come to /k/ to look/discuss guns, weapons, military history and all the other knick knacks not to have virtue signaling threads and discuss politics.
So I recommend you fuck off back to
>>>/pol/ or in your case
>>>/leftypol/ on cripplechan
No I don't want to know about Marxist Dialectics or class consciousness or whatever in fact this entire thread is just bait.

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>>33112805
I don't necessarily think this thread was bait but it was obvious it would be easily derailed and become a political discussion. Other SLA/lefty threads as of recent haven't been as bad.

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>>33112777
>You live in a media bubble. Building a wall, banning mudshits and telling libtard media to go eat shit is what your working class wants from Trump.

I hope they enjoy their little fun moment.

>The best part is you imagine yourself as a part of the Vanguard. Can you imagine the group of loser feminized "men" with twigs for arms from /leftypol/ leading a workers revolution when they have never worked a real job in their life? All under the banner of egalitarianism and camaraderie with muslim invaders that want to rape their women and "muh dick" dindus who can't wait to ditch this march so they can rob all these now empty homes? You are a manchild playing pretend politics with ideas no one outside of the urbanite hipster sphere of upper middle class pseudo intellectuals even remotely likes. Go LARP somewhere else.

Wow, you really typed all that out?

>>33112767

>Nationalized medical care
>National social services and public works programs ensuring all who are able and willing to work are taken care of, which in turn benefits the nation
>Gun laws ensure that members of the nation are able to defend their blood and soil while keeping arms out of the hands of dangerous fifth column racial elements (that wouldn't be there very long anyways) - imagine US gun laws are better, but Tyrone isn't buying one. Nor does Tyrone live anywhere near our borders.
>Private enterprise with regulations to make sure that members of the nation are not abused or replaced by the third world, while key resources relevant to the national interests are nationalized by the government to protect from private entities harming the national interests
>Environmental regulations ensure that the national homeland is not abused for the interest of private corporations, while making sure not to completely stifle economic progress
>A social environment where children are taught to be self-reliant, but also love their nation, family, history, and have a positive outlook on life - shunning all soul-destroying nihilism and post-modernism.
>Everywhere you go, happy, healthy, friendly people who genuinely think of you as a neighbor and not a potential racial or political enemy. Streets are safe to walk even at night. Trust is so high you can leave groceries or bicycles unattended. You don't need NS for this, just a racially homogenized nation that respects it's history - look at Japan.

>>33112795

#1 reason why socialism is popular to teenagers and unemployed art majors

they would get their asses handed to them by don't tread on me militia types in an all-out civil war.

>>33112837
NatSoc and fascism are macho hamfisted solutions to all modern problems. It's just tribalism for the modern day. That's aside the fact for any of that to go as planned that the people have two choices. Either subjugation/brainwashing or death. Doesn't sound very populist to me.

>>33108027

One, if you want to help the poor, you can donate to charity or work in a homeless shelter.

Two, what gives you the right to force others to pay for your shit?

>>33108027
I only think children should be covered medically because they really never had a choice, but adults tend to drain the system more than children because they are manipulative and generally take little care of themselves as a choice.

>>33112886

Well it would be "subjugation/brainwashing" for lefties like you.

NatSoc is populism if NatSoc ideals are quite popular. That's why it worked in Germany (also because far-right militias like the Freikorps defeated far-Left militias).

>>33112837
Honestly senpai, that sounds pretty good...

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Why do you guys have to make "lefty" threads? We don't make "far-right" threads in /k/ that's not fair.

god damn I made this thread for the commie qt3.14s and I see all these lefty/pol/ faggots. pls go back 2 cripplechan

i guess the pendulum is swinging back

>>33112871

>"""""workers"""""""'

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>>33112886

>It's just tribalism for the modern day.

Yes. And? It's the way our European ancestors lived for thousands of years translated into the industrialized world, using technology for the betterment of the nation as a whole instead of the wealth of a few.

The only reason you think this is a bad thing is because a few thousand years ago various non-European desert religions (judaism, which brought with it the jews as a race, and Christianity, an egalitarian sect of judaism designed to control the affairs of non-jews) forcibly slaughtered most native European cultures and religions and substituted or amended their own cultural norms in their stead.

Therefore most people's minds aren't working for their own interests. I genuinely believe most Europeans, given the honest chance to see the good it could do, would not question it.

>>33112919
It is brainwashing if the masses need to be indoctrinated. Whether something is considered brainwashing is subjective however.

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>>33112960

What indoctrination? If a majority believes in that party's platform, it's populism. That's all I'm saying.

Seeing how you can't fathom anyone naturally subscribing to NatSoc ideals only shows your bias.

>>33112954
I don't know what kinda people would do this for free but regardless of board the mossback never seem to actually be from that board

>>33112910
if they get fat, smoke, have sex with AIDS-infested people and/or do other degenerate activities that make them more likely to develop chronic healthcare conditions just raise their health premiums dude or remove their healthcare coverage completely until they stop being degenerates, we don't do it here but I think it's a damn good idea. if they're going to fuck things over for everyone else by deliberately being a leech on the healthcare system, they should have to pay for their stupidity or move to some cuck country like Sweden that will cover everyone regardless.

>>33112834
> My snarky feminine comeback will distract from the fact all of it is true.
>Le ebin troll xD

>>33112967
I do understand why some believe in the ideals of NatSoc but the majority race deciding for all is just a racial of tyranny by the majority. Funny how you bring up a dependent population with the picture you posted. A entire people dependent and ready give their lives for the betterment and future of their race sounds pretty dependent to me. Socialism/communism works for the betterment of yourself and all people.

>>33113004
it really doesn't, communism destroys culture and turns people into ill-mannered directionless degenerates. go to Vietnam, you'll realise I'm right.

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>>33113004

But isn't communism a tyranny by the majority to the extreme? Give up everything for the majority?

Also, that picture applies for both Nat-Soc and Communism.

>>33113014
Sometimes destruction of culture is a good thing. Communism may be the only thing that could keep the middle east civilized and stable.

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>>33113014

At least pick a better example. China's Cultural Revolution is the prime example of cultural destruction.

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>>33113025

>>33113021
Is it really tyranny if it belongs to everyone instead of the dominant race of a population?

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>>33113028

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>>33113033

NatSoc- tyranny of the racial majority

Communism- tyranny of the economic majority/financial lowest denominator

>>33113004
Because we hate your people you scrawny kike.

Your people make money off of money. They make people think everything is fine with (((Hollywood))). They make debt slaves out of the citizens of this country. The Jew makes the American give up his/her nation and culture for the sake of "diversity". Look at Sweden. You want us to become them?

Even Stalin knew you fucks were bad, so he isolated your kind in the Jewish Oblast or put them into the Gulags.

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>>33113039

Communism- make a bit more than the majority and suddenly you're "everything that's wrong with the world"

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itt- leftycuck hairless sacked plebs

sage if if you have to take the bait

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>>33113054

Ahh, a commie vs fascist thread.

Both you groups of fuckers need to burn.

>>33113052
Nowhere did I mention that the goals were for the sake of diversity. It's for the benefit of everyone if they take part and if not then they shouldn't expect anything.

>>33113066

Well tell the mod to do xe/xir's fucking job

>>33113081

We both know they won't.

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>be leftist economically
>can't find party/ideology/people who are only left economically
>they're all upper middle class indoctrinated college students who refer to actual workers as "uneducated".

they always put some kind of feces sprinkles mixed into it like "lgbtq", "people of color", "blm" etc.

In fact, the left gave up the worker cause entirely ever since the 'sexual revolution'. Now it's just trying to support the decadence and societal depravity of the bourgeoisie, whilst being funded by the same 1% which leftists were fighting against years earlier.

But no, it's not about fighting the banks or corporations anymore, because those are the people who are supporting and funding leftist policies and groups. It hasn't been a "grassroots movement" for decades.

Not to mention modern leftists don't even hold being anti war as a principle either.

>>33113090
Nowadays identity politics are just bourgeois degeneracy that keeps actual leftists movements from unifying. Antifa claim to be anarchists and communists but other than rioting and fighting against fascists they don't really do much in relation to the class war.

>>33112110
>To build you need:
>Land survey
>Environmental impact study
>Site survey

don't forget property taxes
yup you really own that land you bought and are not just leasing it from Nana Fed, don't let big government stop you from voting left tho, they have your best interests in mind

>>33113075
>Implying it wasn't a fucking miracle that the Soviet Union and the PRC didn't fall to ethnic tension

The proud peoples (the Crimean Tatars, Balts, peasants who had WORKED for their land) who did not want the Communist way? They got SENT TO THE FUCKING GULAG. Their culture and people, demolished. They exist still, but their populace is severely depleted

>>33113052
Have you ever actually *read* Mein Kampf? Hitler was very much against the concept of a 1%, and believed that employers had obligations to the workers, and the state to it's people.

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>>33113106
They're just a hate group that discriminates against trash cans

>>33113106
Keep in mind that if looking from their lense: if you wear a trump hat you are a 'fascist' and deserve to be assaulted

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>>33112795
god damn
> tfw using the left door

>>33112722
>wage-slavery
anyone who uses this term is a certifiable idiot

if you don't like your mcJob run off to live in the wood and see how much work surviving independent from society is.

>>33113117
>>33113118
Idiotic acts like these are why most people vaguely dislike leftism as a whole and don't care to learn about it. I don't know any Antifa personally but I think most are just edgy college kids in it to riot and "punch nazis".

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>>33113139

Far-right is the new counterculture. It was cool to be a che t-shirt wearing communist back in the days, but being a closeted Nazi is the new thrill now.

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>>33113173
>closeted nazi

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>>33113173
> the "alt right = far right" definition

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>>33113197
To the media the "alt right" is basically anyone who isn't a conservative. So it's considered anyone from moderate libertarians to neo-nazis.

>>33108553
/k/ needs more anons like this one.

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>>33113239
>who isn't a neo-conservative or lolbertarian
fixd

>>33113260
I meant to say neo-conservative but I'm not joking. People actual lump lobertarians and AnCaps in with the alt right for whatever reason. I guess it's any not leftist alternative to republicans.

>>33107867
Fuck off and die commie

>>33107867
That story is hilarious
>move to black neighborhood in hopes to gain solidarity
>start "commendeering" houses for bases
>black people don't appreciate it (they also were only there because they killed a black superintendent because they thought he was a 'fascist')
>stop by gun store to get supplies
>can't resist the urge to shoplift
>shop owner sees it
>draw a gun on them, get away but attract police in doing so
>retreat to house, huge standoff ensues
>given a chance to surrender, respond by firing on police
>shootout occurs
>thousands of rounds fired, don't kill a single fucking pig
>get absolutely BTFO by police

Leftists are born to fail.

>>33112795
Honestly, as an european NEET getting welfarebux, this image is 100% right. There is little reason to work when the State gives you free stuff.

>>33112193
Because they lack humor. I discovered it last year
>right wingers can into right wing humor and non political humor/centrist humor
>left wingers can only into left wing humor so anyone who is outside of that spectrum finds it cringey and only those who are leftists themselves think it's funny.

>>33108443
>>33110777
>>33112894
A government should use tax money to provide the companies of the country with a well educated, and healthy employer base.

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The White race is going to take over space and there is nothing you faggots can do to stop us.

>>33110142
marxism-leninism = stalinism

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>TFW worked since 15 years old
>Own a business at 28, about to own a second
>Own 7 guns + building another
>Work 70 hours a week at least
>Pay a buttload of taxes
>Have my own healthcare and healthcare for my employees, but would take single-payer in a heartbeat.

I should, by all accounts, vote R but the GOP are such autistic faggots about dumb shit like bathrooms and weed and "muh church" that I can't justify it. I could give less of a fuck about any of that but it's all they seem to want to talk about right now. Also fuck paying 20+ billion for a stupid fucking wall that won't work. Spend that shit on infrastructure that matters.

Also I want public schools to be well-funded so we stop producing teeming hordes of retards but that's not going to happen under R either.

If democrats weren't such faggots about gun control I'd be a lot happier voting for them.

Any left wing ideology is fundamentally incompatible with basic human rights such as gun ownership. Stop with the retarded contradictions.

>>33114234
>I want public schools to be well-funded
Some people aren't educable, as demonstrated by your post.

>>33114269

Yeah but there are plenty who are that get screwed too. I'd rather spend the extra to make sure those kids get a chance at a good education.

>>33114280
You don't do that through general education. Maybe 2% of people should go to college to receive *education*, the rest simply don't need it. It has become high school 2.0, an indoctrination center, an extension of adolescence to drink and fuck. What people need is training for their job fields and to start adulthood sooner than fucking 21 years old. Secondary schools should be about siphoning off the talent and directing them into necessary training. We don't need primary schools making everyone uniform factory workers. Primary care should be done by mothers who focus on basic education, training of sentiment, and menial labor. No safety nets, no "programs".

Whats really interesting is this whole Trump phenomenon.

All that talk about bringing back American jobs for the working people is very 'left-wing style'. All those people mad at factory jobs leaving say that Mexico is "taking their jobs", as if the jobs belonged to the workers and not the factory owners who chose to send the jobs overseas. What, is Trump going to nationalize companies by making the government subsidize them if they hire Americans, like he did with Carrier?

It would mean that Americans would have to foot the bill in taxes for every job that Trump subsidizes with government money. Its like Trump is a unrestrained tax-and-spend democrat when it comes to American jobs. Like those 'too-big-to-fail-banks' people criticized. Its not a healthy economy model.

Good luck with the soviet style command economy.

>>33114346

People that champion unrestricted capitalism complaining about corporations sending jobs overseas is deliciously ironic.

The free market spoke, and they said you were unnecessary.

>>33111393
North East and midwest are fucked too

>>33108231
WTF is this shit? Like half those facts a re specious at best. The military and police in Chile are still two of the most respected institutions and like half the population approves/approved of Pinochet.

>>33111752
cuck

>>33114385

Roads haet winter. Also in the NE there's so much traffic that shutting down even one lane on a highway would fuck up everything beyond belief.

>>33114346
>government subsidize
Only a leftist thinks a tax break is a subsidy. Your bits about "nationalizing companies" and "command economy" is a pathetic strawman. Next you will be claiming that retributive tariffs are violating the free trade we have always had with other countries. You have everything backwards. Nobody is dumb enough to fall for this.

what do modern commies fight for, the right to have as much african and middle eastern men come into your countries to fuck your women?

>>33114421

>MFW more immigrants means more hot as fuck arab wimmins

I'm good with it famalam.

>Next you will be claiming that retributive tariffs are violating the free trade we have always had with other countries.
>>33114377
>champion unrestricted capitalism
HA! Fucking called it! The trade we have had with China et al has never been unrestricted. Trump wants to level the playing field and the globalists and useful idiots call it an attack on free trade. Every. Fucking. Time.

>>33108027
Because non-leftists want to kick the poor down and make medical care unaffordable for everyone but superstars, right?

The problem with lefties isn't their wants. They have great ideals. The problem is their methods. They never work and can't work in a system of humans.

>>33114407
>tax break is not a subsidy.

Lowered taxes for one group means less money for the government, so if that was accompanied by lower spending you would be right. But Trump has nukes to make and a wall to build and a military whose size he is increasing.

More debt and/or taxes to pay for it. And if indeed the government is paying companies to hire Americans with debt or raised taxes, that is government subsidizing companies.

>>33108935
>most submarine bases are in blue states.
And manned by people from the places you call dumbfuckistan.

>>33114461
>lower taxes = less tax revenue
Not necessarily. See: Laffer Curve

>>33114461
Typical leftist sophistry intended to subvert people who actually care about the effect of subsidies and know WHY they are bad. Hint: it's not because the government doesn't have enough money. Please use the correct terms if you want honest discussion. Not murdering somebody is not the same thing as saving them. Similarly, not taxing someone isn't a subsidy.

>>33114493
>Similarly, not taxing someone isn't a subsidy.

What do all the companies other than Carrier group think about that? This one special snowflake companies threatens to leave and the government hands them a bunch of tax cuts?

The tax money of that one company isn't the main issue. Even Sarah Palin called it crony capitalism.

>>33114461
>Lowered taxes for one group means less money for the government,
So what's your solution? How much money does a company generate in taxes if they leave? Oh, right! NONE! (Actually, Trump wants to threaten them with a tariff, so they will actually stay and pay taxes or leave and pay even more taxes.) But let's say hypothetically that getting that company to stay in exchange for never pay ANY taxes directly, they STILL create wages that feed the secondary and tertiary economies HERE, such as housing, utilities, small businesses, whole towns in fact, and paying every imaginable other tax there is associated with that activity along the way. All that would be have been lost when those big companies move.

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Dont forget autismos that the left always win

>government spending money to keep dying industries afloat

If a company/industry can't adapt, modernize, and remain competetive then it deserves to die.

>>33114597
Yeah like how Russia is still Soviet.

>>33114561
>Trump wants to threaten them with a tariff,

He didn't threaten carrier group with anything.

>But let's say hypothetically that getting that company to stay in exchange for never pay ANY taxes directly, they STILL create wages that feed the secondary and tertiary economies HERE, such as housing, utilities, small businesses, whole towns in fact, and paying every imaginable other tax there is associated with that activity along the way. All that would be have been lost when those big companies move.

So your saying the government should do this a an indirect way of welfare?

Wow, such conservatism, much right wing.

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>>33114530
If a company, while paying no taxes, survives on its own (again, I am forced to stress, withOUT subsidies), then it is ipso facto a benefit to the economy. Calling that crony capitalism is probably the most ignorant thing I've heard anyone say so far, and you attributing that to Sarah Palin, someone whom you probably despise for a host of other reasons, is evidence of how disingenuous you are. That would be like me using quotes from Israeli Times to show how evil Jews are. Well, we're not talking about Sarah "All Day Nailin'" Palin or the fucking Jews, we're talking about economic incentives that are healthy for the country. If other companies don't think it's "fair" then tough shit. If they don't pose a credible threat of leaving the country--well, then they're not in a position to make Great Deals(TM).

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>>33108027
>leftist policies
>helping the poor

>not perpetuating the poor to keep up the next crop of voters to elect more lefties

>>33114597
i'm right wing af but i respect nationalist leftists that actually have an argument, not like these screeching sjws we have lately.

>>33114620
>an indirect way of welfare?
So now you think because "subsidies" didn't work, you will call a tax break "indirect welfare?"
thetimeforargumentsisover.jpg

Carrier got $7 million dollars and kept only 730 jobs in America, most of that's going to get lost to automation. Carrier still sent most of its jobs to Mexico AFTER the Trump deal.

>>33107867
>radical leftist
>militias
You do realize that it is the current year. Not the 1960s when they did fire back with guns.

>>33109035
>stay woke my bluepilled comrades

>>33108935
>no weapons
>mentally weakest portion of the population
>constantly shit on the only people in their communities assigned to protect them
>due to lack of weapons or mental stability these forces are now their only hope for defense in any situation
>he thinks he stands a chance
The only reason I don't want this to happen is because everyone on here would shitpost about how ineffective civilian movements are and use the subjugation of California as an example

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>>33113773
In a perfect world, yes. The Government has all these great intentions to solve our problems and ensure equality and prosperity for all.

But instead, we get shit like the

>Dream Act

>ACA

>Common Core and the preceding No Child Left Behind, and wastes almost 70 billion dollars per year. The Dept of Education is absolute shit and could essentially be worse or slightly better with the current appointee.

>Social Security program that's projected to be trillions of dollars in the red

>Medicare system which is also horribly managed

>EPA which poisoned a river in Colorado with no consequences. Does nothing but levy fines and write regulations.

>Department of Energy, which does absolutely nothing but fine and write regulations, and consumes 30 billion dollars of taxpayer money

>Federal Reserve, who's problems are beyond the scope of this thread.

>Military falling into Harry Truman/Jimmy Carter levels of disrepair with a new carrier that's over budget and a one-trillion-dollar fighter jet program that has still produced nothing of use to us now.


Bureaucracy is worse than cancer.

Government isn't the solution to the problem. It IS the problem.

>>33114719
>So now you think because "subsidies" didn't work, you will call a tax break "indirect welfare?"

Its government spending meant to prop up working people, of coarse its welfare. It wouldn't be welfare if the government didn't have to spend tax-payer money to help those people. I call it what it is. Handouts. In the form of subsidizing companies to hire Americans.

Its not bad, depending on the on the specifics, but its a very democrat thing to do. Its a Hillery Clinton kind of thing.

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>>33113014
>go to Vietnam, you'll realise I'm right.
I'm guessing you've never been there yourself.

Vietnam never destroyed their culture like China did, and they're quite proud of their history. Some high school girls even still wear the traditional dress as their uniform.

But who gives a shit about silly things like facts.

>>33114767
>Its government spending
>spend tax-payer money
>Handouts
>subsidizing companies
>...
>tax breaks
A perfect example of double-think.

>>33114804
>tax breaks

For one particular specific company, for the specific purpose of propping up American jobs?

Yeah, don't be dumb, anon.

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>>33114815
This isn't about the scope of the problem. This is very simply about incorrect definitions. Specifically, the difference between positive and negative actions.

>>33108443
Yeah leftists man...

Like that ugly jew bitch whose only job of note was writing shitty gary sue novels, smoked like a pack a day, got lung cancer, and went all "help me gubment".

What was that cunt's name? Fran? Ann?

There was this bunch called the Weather Underground. They killed innocent people, and had some pretty fucked up plans after their fantasized victory. The rest of this discussion belongs on /pol/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ

>>33110538
That screencap is bullshit, he said he only ever killed enemies.

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>>33114834

Carrier also got $7 million from the government in addition to tax cuts. I believe most of that went to the CEO.

So yeah.

>>33114903
Wrong.

>>33108128
Luckily I'm conditioned to call people faggots when they're being faggots. Faggot.

>>33114950

Ah right. Just looked it up again, I was wrong.

>>33107867
The people of the movement in OP's pic deserve eternal torture.

>>33107867
keep left trash where it belongs, fuck off
>>>/co/
>>>/lgbt/

You know /k/ has succumbed to /pol/ faggotry when things like leftism and left gun cultures are constantly derided and memed on instead of thoughtfully discussed.

I miss old /k/.

>>33114461
>>33114530
>>33114620
>>33114733
>>33114767
>>33114815
>>33114903
The primary disagreement between left and right today is the definition of freedom. The left will claim that leaving you alone is infringing on the liberty of others. Educate yourself.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberty-positive-negative/

>>33115000
The left is pro gun control, the right is pro abortion control

Both want to take your liberties, it's just a matter of which ones.

>>33114998
They just don't realize that if the left doesn't own guns, they won't fight for the right to own any either.

>>33115018
>abortion
You misspelled "murder." Another deliberate misrepresentation designed to confuse the issue?

>>33115043
It's not killing if they're not born.

>>33115043
I hope you support paying the welfare to care for those children.

You should understand that just because your religion considers it murder, others may not.

COMMIES GTFO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

>>33114901
but that's what it says in the picture

>>33108843
>I would be thrown out of a helicopter for no reason
?

>>33115079
>I hope you support paying the welfare to care for those children.
Bring back workhouses. Their tiny hand are very useful for cleaning an automated loom.

>>33115000

You really don't get it, spending wasn't lowered to account for the carrier deal or anything else that Trump is doing. You talk about freedom when he is spending your money and putting the country into further debt.

I'm not opposed to lowering taxes or subsidies, I am opposed to bad book keeping in order to prop up companies and increase the size of the military and nukes. Again, Trump is taxing and spending like an unrestrained democrat parody, stop pretending he is doing anything different than the politicians before Trump in this regard.

>>33115072
Ripping out your own heart doesn't mean you have a bigger head.

>>33115114
Are you stupid?

Every dictator since Stalin has gone batshit and killed all his supporters.

>>33115132
Only the ones who betrayed them.

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>>33115116
If this isn't bait, what is?

>>33115148
kek.

Suddam, Stalin, Kimy Jr.

All of them decided to kill their cabinets for the lolz.

>>33115079
>I hope you support paying the welfare to care for those children.
Pay blacks to chemically castrate themselves.

>>33115160
Name one cabinet member they killed who wasn't asking for it.

>>33115125
>like an unrestrained democrat parody
Clinton had a surplus, bush got us 10 trillion in debt

But, them libs spend our monies, amIright?

>>33115190

Its why I said 'parody'. I am fully aware the republicans are less good with money than a 4 year old.

>>33115190
You know economic policies don't have a totally instantaneous effect, right?

>>33115214
>republicans are less good with money than a 4 year old.
Keep calling voters uneducated. It has been a real winning political strategy.

>>33115236
>Keep calling voters uneducated. It has been a real winning political strategy.

Luckily I'm not running for office, so those pig shit republicans can stuff their heads.

Stop being so sensitive, faggot.

>>33115250
>when you support the working-class, so you deride them for not being elite

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Wtf mods?

>>33108962
Agreed. Some sperg is gonna shoot up another blm protest and will dominate /k/, and then we're flooded with /pol/acks, media and newfags.

>>33115315
ITT: trolls trolling trolls. I refuse to believe anyone in this thread is actually a leftist.

>>33107893
FPBP

>>33115300

I never said I derided the working class, I derided republicans.

>>33108231
If you didn't talk like a nigger, we could take you seriously

>>33108935
Boy, at least 75% of Northeasters, like me, would instantly go help out "dumbfuckistan"

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>>33114597
And that's why communist countries are always successful and never fail right?
>inb4 China's communist
China's only communist when it's convenient

>>33115367
And if they're both? Because that's what will happen if Republicans follow Trump's strategy.

What boggles my mind with extremist lefties is that they are more willing to become what they hate, in order to do something arbitrary, if not useless in society.

Extremist Lefties don't give a shit about feeding the poor, or the environment, or equality. They just care about having control. Just like a Facsist. Just like a Crony Capitalist Pig Dog.

It's just sad to see them running off that cliff. Mainly because they could all have turned out better if they just grew out of the social dependency that caused them to be lefties in the first place.

>>33115453

You sure have a lot of faith in that guy. Jeez.

>>33115190
>debt
holy shit, my dude. are you truly this stupid?

>>33115190
>Clinton had a surplus

on paper, yes.

Borrowed money still counts as income according to rules and definitions of finance. Be it government or you personally, if you borrow money, it is considered income.

It's not the Clinton years had more tax revenues coming in than the federal budgets. He simply borrowed faster than he could spend.

Clinton gets a lot of credit for the 90s prosperity that he doesn't deserve. He was just in the right place at the right time.

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>>33115220
Exactly.

The Reagan years, are what primed the pump for the Clinton years, along with the Dotcom Bubble keeping things looking good until 2001-ish.

>>33115444

Also don't forget the right has won every culture war it's gotten into. Which is why we all go to church on sundays, blacks have separate drinking fountains, abortion is totally banned, and faggots can't get married.

>Yeah we sure showed those leftists! So tired of winning!

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>>33115509
>You sure have a lot of faith in that guy. Jeez.
We haven't won this much in my entire life, so yes.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/agency-publishes-timetable-mexico-border-wall-191426103.html
>"way, way, way ahead of schedule."

>>33115768
>being so butthurt you construct a straw man

>>33115509

I don't agree with much of his policies. He was not my favorite candidate...at all. There were Democrats that I liked better than him, and I liked every Republican more than him except Carly.

But he beat Hillary Clinton.

He beat what today's rank-and-file Democrats jerk off to: a queen-bee woman, appeals to SJWs, with a recognizable brand name, who can correctly recite all of the text-book partisan talking points, cares mostly about women and minorities, and is, most importantly, a woman.

That has to speak for something.

The Democrat party shot themselves in the foot buy putting in their chosen one instead of listening to their voter base. and the lost. The GOP tried to do the same, but didn't because they started to actually try to win again. The old guard of the GOP deep down wanted Ted Cruz in there; you don't honestly think they wanted to nominate a RINO-populist, do you?

The Democrat Party did to Bernie Sanders what the Republican Party failed to do to Donald Trump.

>>33115797

>He actually thinks a large-scale government project is "ahead of schedule"

Next you're going to tell me it will be "under budget" right?

>>33115833
>The old guard of the GOP deep down wanted Ted Cruz in there

You are wrong there. The Republican establishment hated Ted Cruz almost as mush as they hated Trump. they would have preferred Jeb! or Rubio.

Remember, Cruz was one of those Tea party guys who swept in and almost crashed the federal budget over the debt ceiling, twice.

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>>33115848
>He actually thinks a large-scale government project is "ahead of schedule"
Well, it was approved ages ago and was never taken care of, so I guess technically you're right...
>Next you're going to tell me it will be "under budget" right?
At this point I would be willing to pay a trillion dollars--whatever it takes--just to finally build the wall. We were stabbed in the back 50 years ago. A physical wall (don't forget it's already 10ft higher than originally planned) is the only thing I trust.

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>>33112193
>>33113770
pic related sums it up pretty well and >>33108231 is a great example

>>33115923
>A physical wall (don't forget it's already 10ft higher than originally planned) is the only thing I trust.

Which is funny since it quite simply won't work.

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>>33116008
>walls don't work
You're a special kind of stupid.

>>33116008
name 1 (one) reason the wall won't work.

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>>33110777
>The way welfare is constructed in the US right now is shit, and has contributed to a lot of socio-economic problems. Single mothers on welfare are incentivized to have more kids than they can manage due to benefits, and since there's no second parent around to look after the kids while the mom is working, they get into drugs and gangs and shit.

lbj == worst president ever. the great society worked as intended- it created a social class so utterly dependent upon entitlement programs that they will only ever vote democrat because the mean scary republicans will always try to cut those programs

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the two reasons american medical care is so expensive are
1) drug companies
and
2) insurance companies

>>33116008
>y-you're racist
>he'll never win
>we'll impeach him
>the wall isn't happening
[you are here]
>Mexico will never pay for it
>it will never work

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>>33109517
I seriously can't take your arguments seriously, so have a meme

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>>33115958

There isn't really much of a presence of leftists now-a-days.

Sure, some left-of-center politicians, and facebook normies. They are just not in the position to create memes as much as 4chan does. For as much as people like to whine about leftists, they really don't exist that much.

>they also don't spend nearly as much time shitposting on the internet.

Like, who the fuck is a communist in the United States? Basically nobody. The United States has been center-of-right for decades. There isn't even an 'economic-left/religious conservative' party like you find all over Europe.

>>33115895

>Jeb over Cruz...

Ok, you got me there. Jeb shrank to insignificance too fast fore me to even remember him.

But the rest of the post is spot on. The DNC put their favorite person in and lost because they were willfully ignorant of the political climate in the US, and remain so to this day.

>>33112930
thats because the right is, well, right and left is wrong

>>33107867
If this isn't bait you are naive as hell, OP. You can't have a constructive political discussion here.

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W E A P O N S
Fuck Nazis, fuck commies, fuck socialists, fuck anarchists
Mods please delete this bullshit
Look I actually posted something that is the subject of the board

>>33112312
I see no one had the arguments to refute that so they just gave up. Well done, comrade, I salute you.

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>>33116140
>the wall won't have guns

>>33112774
>human nature
I'll take things that are shaped by society and not dictated by natural law, for 500, Anon.

>>33116171
>tabula rasa
Is this the leftist version of creationism?

>>33114260
Gun ownership is not covered in any sort of recognised version of what constitutes basic human rights.

And I'd like you to point out exactly what it is about left wing ideology that would make it incompatible with gun ownership.

>>33114421
I don't care about any casual lefties that grow up to be social democrats or liberals. What they believe or fight for is completely fucking irrelevant. Communism is, as it has been from the beginning, about public ownership of the means of production, an end to class oppression and the eventual withering away of the state.

>>33115353
I am fully convinved in my support of communism and have been for half my life. I also enjoy guns, discussions about military history and I am currently an officer in the armed forces of a northern European country.

Everything doesn't have to be black or white. There are issues we can disagree on while still being on the same side of others. Unfortunately, this board like the rest of the internet gets immediately polarized and turns into a meme fest with idiots and trolls just bashing away at each other.

>>33116241
Ironically, the best way to achieve this is increasing efficiency through market processes until "the means of production" is a $3,000 robo-nigger slave. I predict commies will then claim this is "oppression" too.

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>>33107867
>H-HELLO M-MUH /k/ PEOPLE
>OK LOOK I AM A LEFTIST AND I WANT YOU DIRTY WHITE SUPREMACISTS TO NOT HAVE GUNS AT ALL SO OUTSTANDING BLACK GENTLEMEN CAN KILL YOU AFTER THEY FUCKED MY WIFE
>BUT I NEED GUNS TO DO THAT SO PLEASE HAVE A LOOK AT THIS LEFTIST CUTE TRANS-POST-SEXUAL-GENDERBENDERFLUID-PAN-COMMUNIST WHO HAS PTSD BECAUSE OF PATRIARCHY AND ABORTED 12 WHITE BABIES FOR THE SAKE OF FIGHTING AGAINST NAZIS
>P-PLEASE BE MY FRIENDS SO MUH LEFTIST MILITIA CAN SEND YOU DIRTY WHITE KKK SUPREMACISTS TO SOME DEATH CAMP
>I BELIEVE MILITIAS ARE KKK WHITE SUPREMACISTS
>I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION NOR INTO DEMOCRACY
>BUT AT LEASE I AM NOT ANTISEMITIC NOR RACIST SINCE I SUPPORT BOTH PALESTINIAN TERRORISTS AND ISRAELI SUPREMACISTS
The left everyone.
fuck off leftard. Never come back.

This is now a Rhodesia thread.

>>33116081
You can keep calling it communism but that won't make it so. Whether you agree with the ideas or not is not the point, there are still some very fundamental parts of the ideology that HAVE NEVER been implemented in the real world, such as common ownership of the means or production or the withering away of the state. You're free to feel that these are not things to strive for, but you cannot have real communism without them no matter how you might feel about it.

Now then, what time's the autogyro ride scheduled for?