/akg/ AK General

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>>32998557
PSA a shit indeed!

What Ak should I buy?

>>32998712
PSA

Someone post the pastebin before we get legit questions like that.

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>>32998557
Arsenal a shit edition

>>32998756
>My arsenal a shit

ftfy

>>32998756
they fixed his gun though.

>>32998774
>me, owning an arsenal when I can home build

>>32998777
Still happened tho

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>me, owning an arsenal when I can home build

>>32998756
what the fuck

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>>32998699
>>32998756
wew lad.

>>32998837
>not having the tools to build your own AK
Its like saying you cant change the oil in your car.

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>I own a vehicle and can change my own oil

>>32998699
I know its the bolt groove in the carrier but what the fuck am I looking at

First post from my first PC build, how y'all doing tonight?

>>32998897
Really really shitty machining.

>>32998874
>>not having the tools to build your own AK
Not everybody has a press and whatever else is needed.

>>32998756
>LOOK MA I POSTED IT AGAIN

>>32998919
I have a press but I can't be bothered to build when parts kits are so pricy now

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>>32998893
>I own a WASR

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>I do not own a WASR

>>32998919
>>32998925
A press and tools are not too much when you factory that a kit build and tools is going to be cheaper than factory AK's after a few builds and you get to build whatever you want with it.

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>PSA a shit

Don't forget two channels for the front handguard retainer.
It's not a mistake. It's a feature!

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>>32999007
did they seriously try to play it off as anything other than a mistake?

>>32998699
>>32999007
jesus

>>32999007
All this is the blem /non blem parts kits. I have not heard any thing bad about a non-blem complete gen 2 rifle

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>>32999007
That's weight savings my dude, ounces=pounds=pain.

>>32999024
Yes. They said they were putting in two channels, for two different length handguards, but then people started posting pics of their kits that didn't have two channels and asking why did that guy get this feature and I didn't, and it became obvious that it was a fuckup that made it out the door.

>>32999057
You realize blem means minor cosmetic damage, not mistakes in manufacturing, right?

>>32999057
Stfu you lying piece of shit. Tons of the non-blem rifles have had issues too

>>32998756
>>32998925
This barrel was replaced and returns to my friend this week. I will post a follow up photos once he has it in hands.

Good job on the formatting OP

>>32999408
Tango Yankee random citizen

Who makes left side folding 7.62 ak's? One's with the same stock pin as a 74?

>>32999556
Arsenal

>>32999556
get an SLR-107fr

>>32998777
Why does arsenal get that as a pass? Psa has a lifetime warranty. Same thing right?

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>>32996805
937 anon reporting

James Yeager is a jackass.

>>32999678
Dat future krink...
Thats pretty much what it is right?

>>32999717
Yep, just playing the waiting game.

>>32999721
Try not to think about how backlogged the ATF is thanks to 41f

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>>32999735
I'm trying, OK?

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>tfw tons of animations to make for games but none are AK's
:(

>>32999735
Wait, what?

So if I want to put my tax return toward an AK, what should I look at? One that's not a piece of shit, or a WASR.

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>>32999855
Arsenal

>>32999870
Really? I've seen people say they're the overpriced low-QC of AKs like DSA are to FALs

Are stamped, not milled Arsenals a mistake?

>>32999977
If you legitimately believe any of that (except the DSA bit, DSA is mediocre at best and you can just buy a solid kit build for the same) you need to lurk moar as its obvious you haven't spent any time whatsoever researching anything related to AKs.

>>32998988
There aren't that many parts kits that are cheaper than a factory ak right now, and most of them are romanian. I don't want to build a romanian ak when I already have a WASR and an slr-104fr

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>>32999855
Literally your only options are to build a kit, buy one and pay to have on built, or buy an arsenal.

Otherwise get a WASR or a PAP. WASR and PAP are interchangeable in my opinion. I dont know why you would care tho, my WASR shoots great. Just dont by anything american. All of them are garbage, there is not an exception yet.

>>33000188
Always struck me as WASRfag sour grapes desu

>>32999977
Sour grapes, friendo. All AKs by default suffer from the same basic QC problems and people think that means you should just get a WASR despite the arsenal being a vastly superior rifle. I wouldn't listen to the fags who are upset they can't save up $1100 for a new rifle

>>33000250
>>33000253
Grapemind

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>had a beard for about a year
>it grew to about 3 inches in length
>Shaved my face last night
Feels weird being smooth

>>32999977
The people that say that are idiots who don't realize that they're fairly priced considering the features you get (mainly 24mm threads and folding trunnion) that alone would cost a few hundred dollars to buy parts and install. If you don't want those features then don't buy an SLR. Arsenal's SGL line are great but expensive because they're banned and their new fixed stock SLR107 is only like $850

Milled AKs in general are a mistake unless you're specifically trying to clone a milled military rifle

>>33000273
>Smooth collar brake
Nice, how much did that run you? Unless I'm mistaken and it's just the factory Arsenal brake.

>>33000293
Probably stock arsenal since everything else is

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>>33000293
I think you mean long collar m8

It was either $55 or $65, I don't remember which

These are my 74 brakes plus another faceted that I've gotten since I've taken this pic. I've thought about selling the factory brake but I'm a sucker for keeping all factory accessories so I probably never will

>>33000329
>since everything else is
Nah, the factory stock for that rifle was a triangle folder and that polymer stock is a replacement (still a take off from someone elses SLR tho), smooth top cover is off of an SGL, brake is a 74M long collar, and the handguards and pistol grip are Russian surplus black polymer. I've since installed a Bulgarian surplus FCG but that was a while after taking that pic

>>33000000

>>33000383
Fuck me my bad, that was a massive case of confirmation bias. I looked for a stock slr and saw one

>>33000329
>>33000293
I don't think factory Arsenal brakes are that shiny. At least the ones on my SLR-104 and 107 aren't.

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>>33000383
Sell me one for my Saiga

>>33000391
np famalam

>>33000398
Yeah my factory one is pretty dull

>>33000419
But it won't fit

>>33000419
Goddamn that looks good with the wood on. Nice job man, it's been an interesting journey for sure

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>>33000427
Well sheeeit. I don't know what brake I need once I get the front end converted.

>>33000435
Oh yeah, I love it. Definitely happy with my decision. Gotta get that front end properly done though.

>>33000438
Well since it's not going to be a clone, you could probably just get by with an arsenal takeoff brake if you want to keep it cheaper

>>33000438
Zigzag would fit the best if you plan on keeping it wood and Bakelite

>>32999735
How close are you to 704?

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>>32999678
614 here. Nice Krink, I'm waiting on my stamp too
Pic from a small OH meet we had on Sunday

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>>33001440
>That one no fun allowed man standing up and not doing the nig stance

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>>33001440
Dude shooting my 107fr

>>33001449
Haha he did it too, it was just taken at the wrong time. If I can figure out how convert video to webm on mobile I'll post some spicy videos

>ITT: Mall ninjas arguing about stamped AKs
just admit that the only reason you don't like mileld AKs is the fact that you can't afford one & are jelly of those who can.

>>33001271
I'm innit, although on the 828 border side

>>33001565
*milled

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>>33001568
Then you are coming to Dallas to shoot.

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>>33001586
How bout you come over here

We do western NC meetups and my friend wants to host another soon

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>>33001765
Live next to charlotte. It's definitely a possibility depending on timing. Same Day trips are best.

Considering a PSA gen 2 as my next gun. I saw Rob Ski give it a pretty good review, though I have no idea how well regarded he is by AK enthusiasts he did seem to autistically sperg out over every detail. Any reason not to? They're not much more than a WASR at this point.

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>>33001765
Did he ever decide on a time to do that?

>>33001786
>>33001829
He's still figuring it out because his unit or whatever doesn't tell him when he has drill until last minute these days evidently

But he's saying this weekend or the next. That'd be on a Sunday as usual I believe.

Stay tuned

>>33001799
They are fine but just get a wasr. Honestly no reason not to.

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>>33002002
Wife works Saturdays and Sundays...nurse. so it's me and a baby on the weekends. Wouldn't be able to go except for a quick same day trip depending.

I bought a blem PSA kit. The only blemish was a small spot of rust on the base of the front sight tower. The sights were straight, and the internals were well finished (no casting marks, smooth, etc). I got it for $375 or so, and had all the spare parts to build it, so I figured a ~$400 AK that can (hopefully) do 5k rounds isn't bad. We shall see. Hopefully PSA keeps an eye on there shit. The AK market needs to grow, and this could be the first properly made US produced AK. Time will tell.

>>32999855
Well, for staters, how much did you get for your return? That would help us set a budget.

>>33002392
MPi KMS-72 clone? cool, add diopter sights and I'll take a dozen

>>32998874
That's not equivalent, at all.

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>>33002451
Eh its just a sar1 with a push button stock. The grip is polish, as is the slant brake. I need a romny slant brake to go full gyspy.

>>33002515
Do those use a latch in the receiver like triangles or does the mechanism handle that on those wire stocks?

>>33002545
All in the mechanism. Makes it very easy to put on most fixed stock rifles.
>akm trunion only.

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>>33002583
They work on (some) RPKs as well.

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>>32998699
what the fuck? Mine looks nothing like that and it was even a blem model

>>33001440
Where is that range?

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>>33002664
That must be unbalanced, but looks really cool.


Got another polish fat grip. I love the color on these.

>>33001565
I have one. I prefer my SLR over my SAM.

>>33002012
>Wife
>baby
Oh I forgot to mention no normies allowed
I'm free most thursdays

>>33002693
That's some of the smoothest machining on the bolt cam channel I've ever seen. Which might be because the channel is part of the casting mold. I don't know what the story is behind that fucked up one.

>>33001565
>can't afford paying 100 less

Nobody wants the milled guns and they sit on the shelf forever

>>33001565
>posts no ak
>most people in the thread have thousands of dollars in firearms
>(you)

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>>33002583
Gotcha, that's how the VZ2008 factory one and the aftermarket one I got was. Factory one was solid as fuck both ways, aftermarket (ACE mechanism) was kinda flimsy when folded but was solid when folded out.

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>>33002793
>tfw selling SAM7
>seller asks the expert gun store clerk about how he wants to suppress it
>he wants to add custom aftermarket stock and whatnot
>be me counting money as I make way to the door

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>>33002816

>>33002803
>the VZ2008 factory one and the aftermarket one I got

Did you have a hard time taking the factory one off? I had to use a blow torch and heat up the bolt until I smelled plastic burning (the red loctite) and then put a big fat screwdriver on it with a strap wrench around the screwdriver handle and a 4 foot long cheater bar on the strap wrench. but I got that bastard off and put on a beaver barf stock.

Hi from southern WV, you filthy fucking ATF agent. j/k.

>>33002828
I actually had to fucking drill the screw out, so yes very much was a god damn pain.

>>33002816
Absolutely devilish

>>33002835
I think those drunken monkeys at Century dipped the entire screw in red loctite.

Hey assholes! Blue would be just fucking fine for this application!

>>33002841
Hehe, just kinda funny knowing the disappointment he's going to experience when he can't trick out his SAM7 with all the latest magpul gear. As soon as he started asking questions that could have killed the deal I bolted.

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>>33002803
Fun fact wire stock can not be folded completely with a rear loading drum.

>>33002793
>>33002801
>post in /akg/ about plans to buy an AK & swap the stock and dust cover & ask if anyone knows of a good windage-adjustable picatinny-mounted peep sight
>everyone gets triggered by the notion that it's a milled AK, everyone and their mother goes apeshit saying I should get a stamped one
>when asked why they state reasons I have already said are not an issue for me
>everyone keeps complaining about the extra weight and lack of aftermarket parts
>someone then says stamped AKs are cheaper and everyone goes silent.

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>>33002896
>greentexting about fantasy posting in /akg/

Post Ak

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>>33002915
This, moar ak is needed.

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>>33002791
>Oh I forgot to mention no normies allowed
>tfw chimps will never like me

>>33002739
In Richwood, about 20 mins north of Marysville. It's a private range a /k/ommando is a member of and was nice enough to let us use

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>>33002896
This is probably my "clone military rifles" autism showing, but milled AKs look absolutely disgusting with optics or any furniture except wood.

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>>33002915
there, Arsenal SAR-M1, replacing the dust cover with something like this (since there's always the side rail for optics): http://www.tech-sights.com/ak-products/

the replacement stock will be telescopic, people keep telling me to get AR -style buffer tube and put in an AR -stock, why is going through the trouble of getting two parts that each cost the same as a single part that achieves the exact same job (http://www.brownells.fi/epages/Suomi.sf/fi_FI/?ObjectID=108930)?

>>33002974
My cousin is a member there, he was just telling me about it a few weeks ago.

If you guys ever plan any more Ohio meets, drop a line in /akg/.

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>>33002979
>but milled AKs look absolutely disgusting with optics or any furniture except wood.
*ahem*

>>33001829
If I don't get word today, it's this weekend. there's also drinking at my house afterwards and a place to sleep for those that need it.

>>33003026
Valmets and Galils are the exception because of the angled receiver

Normal milled receivers with the big square cutout are ugly unless they're used to replicate a military rifle with wood

>>33003026
does no one care about cheekweld except Americans?

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>>33002693
Here's mine. Blem gb2 build kit

>>33003037
Holy shit dude, they did that shit twice?!?!
That's fucking lame.

>>33003035
>Valmets and Galils are the exception because of the angled receiver
and I'd rather get either one if there were any available here, but Valmets are 1000€ minimum regardless of their condition & Galils aren't really an option considering they have that 'evil' folding stock which makes them fall under "any other weapon" -category & getting permits for them seems to be akin to winning a lottery, so it's got to be an AK with those soviet-style sights which I hate, then there's what AKs there are available, which seems to be mostly milled Arsenals, stamped Norincos & the odd Saiga here and there.

>>33003037
call their customer service

>>33002998
Do you have an email you could post here? I can add you to the group email

>>33003107
>>33003062

Really think it's that bad? Action is smooth and bolt rotates like butter

>>33003107
"nyet the rifle is fine!"

>>33003121

Substandard machining like that should never be in the hands of a customer.

>>33003128
The top of the bolt shouldn't even engage the top of the channel, do you niggers really care that much about how it looks?

>>33003136
I understand that the sides of the channel are the bearing surfaces, but sloppy work like that looks very unprofessional. If my name (or my business's name) were on a product, I would not put out something that looked like that.

>>33003178
If it were Arsenal or something I could understand complaining about laziness, since they charge out the ass, but for a 500 dollar kit that just went into production I think people are complaining a bit too much

>>33003198
>but for a 500 dollar kit that just went into production I think people are complaining a bit too much

It's not like they ramped up a new production line to start making these kits. It's just the AK's they've been making for quite a while now, minus the furniture and a trigger group.

>I think people are complaining a bit too much

If you are ok with shit like this >>33003037 >>32998699 >>32999007 then by all means have at it. But you shouldn't be too surprised when people who expect the things the spend money on to not have manufacturing defects in them speak up. On their website the blem products they sale are said to have minor cosmetic blemishes on them, not manufacturing defects. There is a difference.

Personally I'm glad I haven't ordered from them. I was going to until pictures like the ones ITT started showing up. I have changed my mind.

>>33003252
Not new lines but they probably increased production and found every way to cut costs. Their cheapest kit is a little over 300 dollars IIRC

If the gun works and doesn't blow up then I don't have a problem, these are literally the bottom of the barrel for AKs, if you want something pretty to hang up spend the 1500 for an SGL

>>33003291
>if you want something pretty to hang up spend the 1500 for an SGL

That was an odd thing to write. I don't think anyone considers an Arsenal a wall hanger.
We disagree on this subject, and that's ok. Have a nice day.

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>>33002002
Ok I can't this weekend because I have a funeral that I'm going to.

PSA customer service finally got back to me regarding my incomplete/shitty red wood build kit. Apparently they sent the wrong screws, hence why they just dropped into the holes... I am just going to return the kit for a full refund

Also my bolt and carrier look very much like the other pics here people have posted, they have offer to have it shipped back to them, I believe so I may receive a forged one instead.

They have offered for me to send back the barreled receiver for a full refund as well... Im still on the fence about whether or not I should just do and and buy a WASR or something instead.

>>33003664
Just buy the wasr.

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>>33003664
Holy fuck how many times do we have to say this?

DO NOT BUY US MADE AKs

STOP IT RIGHT NOW YOU STUPID NIGGER FAGGOTS

>Im still on the fence about whether or not I should just do and and buy a WASR or something instead.

YES

WASRs are better than any US made AK, even if they are canted as fuck and you need to straighten them out.

THERE IS LITERALLY NO REASON TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON MONKEYSHIT US MADE AK

US AK MANUFACTURERS ARE ALL RETARDS

>>33003118
Thanks mate

thethreadwright at gmail

>>33003697
I'm not sure I follow you.
You're saying US made AK's are good and we should all buy them?

>>33003697
so, let me get this straight:

>no US -made AKs
>no milled AKs
>no Arsenals

it's starting to sound like people in this thread are trying to coax people into getting an AK from a specific manufacturer but don't want to be branded shills & as such keep shooting down anything that isn't the AK they want people to buy...

>>33003732
>>no milled AKs
>>no Arsenals

I never said any of that so don't try lumping me in with the morons with particular tastes attempting to spread their opinion as truth

I have no problem with milled guns or arsenals, I am just pointing out the retardation of buying US made trash

Go buy a sam7 for all I care, go build a parts kit or buy one from some fucky noname builder or hell go buy some AK offshoot variant just don't buy a POS IO/Century/PSA

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>>33003732
>no milled AKs
>no Arsenals
wot

>>33003755
>>33003771
it's hard to tell how many people are saying what, whenever I mention that I prefer milled AKs I get like five replies telling me I am retarded for every reply telling me to ignore the "poorfags jealous of people who can afford milled AKs", which makes it seems like for every person who's OK with milled AKs there are five who think milled AKs are shit

>>33003870
I see where you're coming from but don't confuse:
>I don't like this
for
>I don't recommend you buy one of these

We can discuss preferences all day, but just about everyone in /akg/ will tell you to steer clear of US made AKs.

The arsenal stuff is mostly shitposting, and the milled vs stamped "debate" only elicits those responses because of the fuddlore surrounding milled AKs.

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Mail just dropped by. Bastards didn't deliver my short collar even though it's at a local office tho

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Neat trench art on the bake but it's hard to read, plums are dark as shit too

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Anyone seen black AKM Russian wood before?

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Unique stamp on the lower HG. I've seen many sets but first time I have seen lower HG's stamped with those two characters.

>>33003697
the solution to canted wasrs is to inspect before you buy. I picked up a wasr at a local store for the same price they had on Atlantic at the time. I would have had to pay tax on it anyhow and it saved me a transfer fee and shipping. Sights are straight gasblock is canted a mm or so left but not enough for the piston to even rub. All rivets are good some a bit sloppy but all are tight and not pancaked. Magwell is also solid with the polish surplus mags I have. The only drawback is that new wasr wood is shit, might get a poly set for it at some point.

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>>33004051
>>33004080
My need for a true black is a lot greater now, these Polish poly mags are nice and dark in comparison to the ((10))s

They're a lot thicker thoo

>>33003732
most us made aks are shit, I prefer stamped over milled because of weight although the sam7f I looked at was the smoothest ak action I have ever felt. Both Arsenal and Wasr are good AKs it really just comes down to personal preferance and features you may want. In 7.62x39 I would go with a wasr for 5.45 I would go with an arsenal although with 5.45 you really dont get much of a choice. Arsenal does have better fit and finish than the WASR but both will preform similarly to each other in reliability and accuracy assuming neither has factory defects.

>>33004430
Check the files true blacks from 27-38 used-new and in between.

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>>33004497
No

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>>33004430
True blacks a best, haven't gotten any from Russia since November-ish and I'm getting the itch again but I don't want to spend money

We both just have absolute garbage luck with the stupid post office, seriously they consistently piss me off

>>33004497
Not paying $30 "retail" for NOS

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>>33004692
I'll trade you the bake I just got for one :^

At least my short collar will be here tomorrow and I can take good outside pics of my new mags. Still on the fence about keeping the bake tho

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so, regarding my earlier question; in past when I mentioned I was planning on getting a telescopic stock for the AK I was planning on buying I was instructed to get an AR -style buffer tube & then put an AR -stock on it, from what I see the tube and the stock attached to it cost far more than pic related, is there an actual advatage in paying more for two parts that do the same job as the single part in the pic?

>>33004938
Getting to chose what kind of AR stock you want to put on it instead of being stuck with an ATI/Mako Group special or whatever would be worth it to me.

>>33004782
Cool story bro.

>>33004977
"one of these rifles is not like the others"

>>33005020
>buy mags on AK files for this average price
just drop the trip faggot

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>>33005022
"One of those rifles is Korean".

>>33005049
How else will he peddle his shit to people who don't care?

What should I sell 54r for?

>>33005135
Ammo or rifle ?

>>33005144
Surplus tins

>>33005135
20 cents/round

>>33004430
>>33005108
>My need for a true black is a lot greater

>buy more mags
>check AK files
>t.bakesrus helping newbies since summer

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>>33005164
Cheapest I see it online is 42 per

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>>33005167
>helping newbies
>directing people to your akfiles ads anytime anyone mentions anything ever

No

If I somehow became incompetent of searching for a true black I'd ask

>>33005181
so? you/he didn't ask how much it's worth. I think 20 cents/round would be an awesome price for somebody to pay for that ammo.
as a gesture of good faith I'll give you 21 cents/round.

>>33005152
What kind of tins ?
>120$ tin if you want ro sell it fast
>140$ if you want to wait a while .

>>33005212
A rusky silver tip, a bulgy silver tip and a rusky ball

>>33005196
I like plum mags
>hit me up on akfiles, trannyward
But I was just saying, I mean I like them but I don't wanna spend money
>be a good goy, you know you wanna spend
Borderline disgusting

>>33005049A fuck you for you.

>>33005108 A fuck you for you.
>>33005108
A fuck you for you.
>>33005167
A fuck you for you.
>>33005196
A fuck you for you.
>>33005221
And A fuck you for you.

=)

>>33005196
fucking drooling at these prices

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>he's triggered

>>33005322
so triggered.

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>had a dream that my AKS-74N had finally come in at my FFL
>realize I was never contacted to pay the remaining half of my build fees
>wake up, tfw no AK still
I just want her to come home.

>>33005332
>implying that post is for you

This is how I know you're triggered

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>>33005095
You seem to like milsurp
Is this thing worth a numbers matching but semi bubba'd Norinco SKS that I paid $260 for?

>>33005196
what does some of this notation mean?

>little b / y
>drain a little b / y
>drain b / y
>relaxed retained
>metal edge storage
>metal rib sloppy retained

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>>33005363
>>33005095
This is the SKS in question. Bayo lug shaved off (fucking why) with some weird stock extension.

>>33005363
No woo but nope

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>>33002915

>>33005364
Not gonna be 100% here by a long shot, but from context clues and what I've been told, b / y is some way of denoting that it's used/not NOS, drain a little might mean it has cosmoline(??), relaxed, and the retained/sloppy stored is probably related to gently used/not stored well or something like that

You can usually tell by pictures which ones are used, NOS, in cosmo, etc

>>33005363
Styer ? Sorry not all to familiar with that particular rifle
>>33005376

Also keep the sks.

>>33005332
>>33005292
Stop shitting up the thread

You're obviously acting like a little bitch but want to make a big show of it like it doesn't phase you. We don't care, everyone here thinks you're a fag, just take it in stride and stop shitting up the thread. It's only making more people hate you which means you will have meltdowns even more frequently.

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>>33005292
I'm honored.

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>>33005400
>>33005387
Fair enough. Currently trying to flip that SKS for around $450 to some tard and just buy a better SKS with that money. Got offered that and was just curious.

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>>33005417

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>>33005221
>trannyward
kek

>>33005417
kek

>>33005196
What am I looking at here

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>>33005417
That gave me a chuckle.

>>33005393
cool, thanks. still in the learning phase of this questionably legal mag importing game

>>33005471
Prices of mags and other accessories on a Russian gun forum

>>33005473
Np

If you're importing for yourself you're pretty much good to do whatever, "personal use wholesale value under 100"

The tricky part is getting shit with intent to sell and doing it in large quantities. But you wouldn't do that :^

>>33005495
ha, for me it actually would be personal use. My main issue will be learning enough russian to actually order something and avoid getting scammed

>>33005542
Shouldn't need to learn Russian, any of the guys that do it will know Runglish well enough, it's how I talk with my guy

Avoiding getting scammed could be fun tho, would recommend starting by buying things you still want but are covered by Paypal buyer protection. You get scammed and tell them you bought mags they'll tell you to fuck off

>>33005376
If the bayonet isn't going to be there, I'd rather see the lug ground off.
It's ugly as hell sitting bare. And it's extra weight where I least want it, out at the end of the barrel.

>>33005562
that's a good idea, maybe I could buy a chest rig or something to see if the seller is legit. Was either going to get a digital flora AK rig off ebay or one of those Strike Hard Gear AK chest rigs

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>>33005607
Start building a RATNIK set

I spent a few hundred on this before asking him if he was cool selling shit like mags. I think it makes the seller feel better to since he knows you're not trying to fuck him

>inb4 anon spends all of his mag money on surplus

>>33005652
I'd really like to have a full digital flora set. I don't know where I would ever wear it, though.
>tfw constantly balancing fun with not appearing autistic

and I could easily spend all my mag money on surplus haha

>>33005390
Look at the statist ass kisser

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>>33005680
I like just having, but I'm an autistic collector of damn near everything

There's plenty of cheaper stuff to start with like BDUs. I've spent close to a grand on my set and I've got everything but a belt, gloves, knee/elbow pads, and socks. Shit is addicting senpai

>>33003062
>>33003107
If it functions just fine I don't see an issue. It's not like you can see that when it's inside the rifle

>>33005711
thanks for the ideas. I bet a lot of these ebay sellers would also ship mags, too, so maybe I could set something up with them after getting some other gear

>>33000273
How do you like that optic? I want to get a 104FR with that optic. I saw a review on it and the features seemed pretty cool.

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>>33005760
Not the guy you're talking to (I'm >>33004692) but that's how I got my mag connections. I bought a lot of stuff from a seller from Russia (almost entirely Finnish and Baltic state WWII surplus stuff) and eventually asked him if he ever got his hands on any AK parts and mags and if he'd be willing to sell me that stuff on the down low (was kind of a ballsy move on my part because I didn't want to piss him off or get us into trouble). Once you get your foot in the door and have the sellers trust with buying not sketchy gun stuff you can get a nice thing going

>>33005854
I like it quite a bit. It looks cool, it functions cool, it leaves you with great situational awareness, and it whips up from low ready to eye level very quickly. I love it a lo-
I MEAN OBZOR A SHIT MORE LIKE GOBZOR AMIRITE SHITTY RUSSIAN MEME OPTIC I SHOULDA JUST BOUGHT AN AIMPOINT INSTEAD OF THIS GAY SHIT

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>>33005854
If you're gonna get some slavshit optics why not get the best one?

>>32998557
have 800 dollaroos and im stuck between getting a Wasr 10 or a mossberg 500/nornico sks. What's the better choice?

>>33005932
goddamn stupid /akg/ memes will never not make me giggle

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>>33005960
>implying either of those is the best Slav optic

>>33005996
>Russia Penis PSO-1
R A R E
A
R
E

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Ay goys I can get one of these for $600, what will it run me to get it normal? If it's comes out to be less than the new Arsenal, should I do it?

>>33005996
>>33005960
have you guys ever seen the OKP-77 collimator sights? they're $360 on ebay but no one seems to know much about them

>>33005932
thanks for the tip, I'll definitely keep that in mind moving forward.

>>33006053
It'll cost close to an Arsenal to full convert

You can get done ones for 8-900 I believe

>>33006081
Someone here bought one a few weeks ago but he found out he had an astigmatism so he never got to do a real review on it

>>33004360
was looking at a wasr, how do you tell if the sights are canted?

>>33006111
Put the gun upside down on a flat surface and see if 4 (rear sight and front sight leaves) touch the surface. If they do, it's not canted. If they don't, then it means something isn't lined up properly.

>>33006101
>You can get done ones for 8-900 I believe

I'll keep looking, I found one for $900 but that doesn't include shipping and FFL and all that jazz, so I would guess another $50 or so. I'll keep that in mind though, thanks m8.

>>33006128
got 800, should i get a wasr or mossberg 500/nornico sks?

>>33006150
Np

If you decide you want a folding stock later on too it'll cost you more than a factory arsenal would. Although I think the saiga sporters can use a 5.5mm folder. Someone might correct me tho

>>33005968
WASR has 146% more guaranteed giggles

>>33006157
I'd say WASR. Mossbergs aren't going anywhere and while I do love my SKS, I'd take an AK over it.

>>33006177
fair enough, figured 2 guns for the price of one but wasr's have been going up in price so i think ill get that.

>>33006157
Not him but for $800 I would go for the wasr. SKS' are something you get nowadays only if you want an SKS specifically. And with the Mossberg, I would go for a maverick 88 over the 500, basically the same thing just some parts made in Mexico, they're also a few hundred bucks cheaper if you get one new, if not look for a used 500.

>>33006198
Gonna go with the Wasr, just dont like the furniture, any way I can refinish it or should i just get some furniture from online or somewhere?

>>33006215
You can get a much better set of surplus wood for about $30 online, The stock wood they ship with isnt as bad as the chink export wood, but it's not very good.

>>32998557
DAKM 4150's were in stock at Atlantic for 1150. Out of stock now but they say they'll get more.
Worth? Or just go for the SLR-107 when it's back in stock?

>>33006225
romanian surplus steel mags or pmags? also whats some good ammo?

>>33005968
Wasr, continues to increase in value. And more fun IMO.

>>33006264
I dont have much experience with surplus mags but ive heard that they're all pretty good except Korean mags. Ive not used pmags on an ak in a long time but when I did they malfunctioned every few rounds, might just be my dads gun, but no other failures from it in the last decade aside from the pmags. Maybe theyve gotten better, I dont know but I would do some research on them if I was looking at them.

>>33006264
Surplus steelies will likely outlast you.
Golden Tiger.

>>32999664
Depends on how quickly they get it fixed and how helpful their customer service is

>>33006264
Yugo steel mags are still on sale at AIM for dirt cheap. They should have a 10% off coupon code still going for their 20th anniversary.

>>33005698
Look at the thug nigger

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>>33006505
>>33005698

DDI-12 semi auto shotgun, does anyone have one? Do you like it? Does it run reliably?

>>33005390
How much disability did you get?

>>33006720
I don't get the reference.

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>>33006081
>OKP-77
cheeki breeki!

Whats your oppinion on
These aks
http://www.jgsales.com/ioi-akm247c-ak-style-rifle,-7.62x39,-stamped-receiver,-wood-stock,-usa-mfg,-new.-p-92297.html

I know to avoid I.O and RAS

But what bout I.O.I

It sounds like I.O opened up a new company.

>>33006387
where can i find a decent sling?

>>32998557
Zastava NPAP, WASR 10, or c39? which is the best?

>>33006812
IOI= Inter Ordinance Industries= IO

>>33006812
>http://www.jgsales.com/ioi-akm247c-ak-style-rifle,-7.62x39,-stamped-receiver,-wood-stock,-usa-mfg,-new.-p-92297.html
That is literally just I.O. again, but JG is using the "Industries" to add a third letter to throw people off.

>>33006873
>>33006812
>this is what happens when the pastebin isn't posted

Ya'll need to help me out postin it, I can't make every thread

>>33005960
Ive got an 8x on my 23" vepr and I like it a lot, but IMO the obzor is aesthetic AF and the reticle is pretty cool

>>33006828
Ebay, surprisingly.
>Got a brand new RPK sling for ~$20.
Only took 2 weeks from the Motherland, too.

Or on the Files.

>>33006828
I can't think of a bad sling that I've ever seen. It's literally just a strap on your gun, look on amazon for the cheapest one you can get, I think chinkshit slings are like $8 and they're pretty good.

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>>33006961
Damn that's a good cat pic

>>33004051
Greetings FL fag

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>>33006930
How much would you pay for this rare sling hued of a fair maiden's anus?

>>33007131
A lot, its the closest thing I'll ever get to the real thing.

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>>33007045
She is a nice fucking kitty.

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>>33007163
Do you actually shoot your daewoo? I hear they have problems on wearing down really quickly.

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>>32998557
>go to 4chan
>/b/ because it's like a reflex
>see 2 loli threads b2b
>nopethefuckout.wav
>go to /k/
>immediately see my favorite thread

I love this place.

>>33007282
From time to time i do, 5.56 is not high on my priority list. I havent noticed any issues and ive shot around 500.

>>33007282
I never got why AK stocks have 2 holes.

>>33007317
Weight savings, probably. They took it a step further with the -74's lightening cuts.

>>32998699
ohnoes, machining marks left on your funs.

i need a damn time machine right now so i can go back to 1942 and complain to the plant manager at springfield armory for leaving those marks on my garand...oh wait, they don't affect performance any, and add character to something that otherwise was made by the millions. so never mind.

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>>33007310
>>see 2 loli threads b2b
>>nopethefuckout.wav
>>go to /k/
>>immediately see my favorite thread

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>>33005960
What optic?

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>>33006256
plz halp

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>>33007622
PO 4x24

Still the same NPZ I wanted but it doesn't have the etching I want

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>it's wet outside
>step in a deep puddle
>instantly aware that there's a hole in my boot
>have to finish off 6 more hours of a 10 hour work day with a soaking wet foot
reeeeee

>>33007762
wet feet suck

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What is this

>>33007797
Looks like some sort of aftermarket cleaning rod holder for ban era rifles with the lugs ground off.

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>>33007810
Nm I found
>leans into mic

>>32998699
They didn't finish milling that area.

A CNC machine operator is not necessarily a real machinist. A machinist would have caught that and never let the part out the door. I've some down-low personal insight into PSA operations and paying a button pusher to swap out parts is different than paying someone who knows what properly machined parts should fucking look like.

I'd buy PSA parts, but I'd inspect them carefully. Other makers of bargain-basement firearms have QC problems too. It would be easy to dedicate an inspector or two but that costs money and one or two workers adds up to a lot of lost profit. It's cheaper to write off a lot of blems since gun parts don't cost shit to produce in volume.

Stupid question.
Would an AK47 bakelite hand guard fit on a Draco?

>>33007797
Experimental Bi-Pod

>>33008414
Have you ever seen a slab side slant brake for sale?

>>33008409
Yes nigga.

>>33008491
Got a photo?

Does anyone know if the spiker fsbs from polytech usa will fit a mak90?

>>33008602
Yes. Potential issue with the detent hanging too far out has been raised with recently poly usa spiker FSB's. The whole not being drilled far back enough for the detent to seat properly.

>>33008625
Thanks pal.

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My underfolder is finished :^)

Just need to pick it up.

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>>33008600
Not the greatest pic but hopefully conveys the form

>>33008700
No problem, I just sent my rifle to be built using a mak 90 as the base and a poly usa FSB that was already installed.

>>33008826
I am not honestly too familiar with slant brakes. I also have shitty eyes and I can't make much detail out on the brake pictured.

What has this different from the normal brakes and excuse my ignorance.

>>33006111
when I bought mine I just looked down at the sights top dead center and saw if they appeared to be canted, keep in mind slight cant is only an aesthetic issue, cant only becomes a problem if you have to adjust the sights excessively. If you have a decent eye and they do not appear canted to the naked eye you are good to go. To be fair I have a pretty good eye from wrenching on a car and wood/metal working.

>>33009092
good to know, gonna pick one up tomorrow. How difficult is it to refinish the stock? Not really digging the blonde wood.

>>33008821
Damn, nice rifle. SAR-1 or other?

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>>33009450
Its a sar1.

>>33009402
Just buy a surplus set for like 30 bucks or so.

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>>33008821
H Y P E

I'm excited to see it, I'm itching for an underfolder

>>33009543
Sexcellent

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Im going to an estate sale tomorrow. How can I tell if this full automatic?

>>33009796
Third pin and internals

>>33009796
It's not.
But if you must.
>check chamber is clear
>pull and hold trigger
>cycle action
>does the hammer drop on its own without you having to release and pull the trigger again?
>If yes than its full auto
>If no than it's semi auto
>or look for third pin hole or auto sear. Although I assume you don't know what those look like if you're asking this question.

>>33005022
I mean it is a piston. Korean beryl w/more mag availability

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>>33009796
Look at this picture. See the little stamp above the mag release that looks like a "Y"? There will be a 3rd pin through that stamping if it's an FA gun.

Spoilers: it isn't

>>33009796
>How can I tell if this full automatic?
If the price starts at $20k.

>>32998557
anybody got the pastebin for aks?

>>33009864
The write-up said they would be selling Class 3 firearms ....can't say that Ive ever seen an AK47, ....just guessing that this would be one of them

>>33009901
Hypothetically

Say it was a registered machinegun, anon managed to purchase it from some unbeknownst person handling the estate.

What do next?

>>33010156
Both people are in deep shit for transferring an NFA item without the correct paperwork.

>>33010245
just buy i't and lose it in a boating accident

>>33010259
May as well just drill up one you have and bury it

>>33010355
how would one hypotheticlly do this?

>>33010462
you can buy the sear parts, just installing kills doggos

>>33010462
I haven't really researched it, but technically it seems very, very simple. I'd imagine the hardest part would be installing the sear pin exactly where it needed to be. Even that with the AKs tolerances would likely be forgiving.

tl;dr it's easy but the felony hurdle is a dandy to jump

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>>33010462
Oh here for keks only

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>>33010462
Fixed

>>33003697
Should have bought a Norinco

New thread

>>33011031

>>33011031

>>33011031

>>32998712
Wasr, m70, arsenal, polish tantal, or Molotov vepr. Or an old maadi or Norinco if you can find them.

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Rate my wasr pls.

Also where would be a good place to get rid of so.e tapco AK mags? I have like 7 or 8 I wanna get rid of and replace with either more steel mags or some more bakes since I only have 2 atm

>>33001440
Where in Ohio m8?

I'm in the 330

>>33003118
Can I get in on the group mail too? I'm in the 330 area.


[email protected]

>>33009402
wouldnt be hard to redo the wood mostly just sanding staining and applying finish an oil finish would be just fine I would go with teak oil over linseed oil hell even mineral oil over linseed oil Teak oil does not go rancid like linseed will. consider picking up a used romy stock set for like 30 bucks like anon said and if you want to then at that point redinish that it is worth it because the wood century uses on the new wasrs in not all that great and is a bit soft. It could look fine when tefinished but it will ding and dent much easier than things like the wood on my nugget.

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old abomination Saiga

>>33011474
p. gud / 10, I love cheese graters.
How hard is it to remove that mag without smacking the dong? I had a vertical grip on my VZ2008 back when I had one and it would get in the way a lot

>>33008826
that's not a brake (a device on the muzzle that helps with the recoil), that's a compensator (a device that helps keep the muzzle steady during shooting)

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>>33012538
Not bad at all, a lot easier with 30 rounders instead of that 40 rounder in the pic.