/akg/ AK General

>>32102249
Are there any AKs that don't have a shit finish? Both my wasr and vepr have dogshit finishes. Maybe I am just spoiled by the standard AR-15 finishes that kick ass.

>>32102641
Standard AR15 finish is a chalkboard

Did Egyptian AKs see much export (for actual military/paramilitary/legitimate arming people to use for combat, not commercial export), or were they primarily kept within Egypt's armed forces?

I need so many magazines, I probably dont have enough ammo to fill the ones I have now but i need more

I have the price list now. I'm sending out the emails to everyone
Happy thanksgiving you nerds

>>32103510
Mags and ammo are always a priority Anon. Otherwise, you just have an expensive stick to swing with

>>32103559
hey I want in on the group buy. am I too late?

>>32103564
I can't carry 20 mags into battle though
"Anon why are you so slow?"
"I'm carrying ammo"
"And?"
"Extra ammo and then extra extra ammo just in case"

>>32103559
Gib bakelite. I won't miss out on this one. What email do we use?

>>32103559
Whatcha got and where do I contact you?

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>>32102641
vepr
>dogshit finish
what the fuck

why cant anyone make an AK with a scope rail built in to the top of the upper instead of having to make scope mounts that clamp to the side?

>>32102249
Dunno if this is a good deal but if you guys are looking for SLR-104s here ya go
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1ASLR10431

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>>32104147
How much did the new taco run you?

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>>32104236
35k worth every penny

That's a really sweet truck and Kebab blaster, guy.

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How are these? Anyone know?
Cheap 12g is just as cheap as normal AK food these days.

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ddi-12-shotgun-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>32104147
>>32104262

Fuck me I want one.

>>32104129
Railed dust covers exist, but jesus christ talk about flimsy, you know? More likely to get a solid lockup with the side-mount deal.

>>32104262
have fun with a rust pile

>>32104310
Good thing i live in Azrizona

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>>32104333
>Azrizona

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>>32104310
>Modern Toyota
>Rust pile
Coming from a guy in Minnesota, where we attack winter with good ol' rock salt, this is not as much of a concern as it used to be. My work had two pic related tacomas and they were not showing signs of significant rust when they hit 90,000 miles.

Beastin' little pickups to survive MN winters with only 2wd.

>>32102249
Is that the 7.62 NATO Galil ACE or the x39? Anyone know how well the x51 version handles, along with its MOA?

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>>32104348
Is best state.

>>32102249
Does anyone have the buying guide for AKs on hand? I want to get one that isn't trash, but all the ones I'm finding have been century which I've heard many a gripe about.

>>32104363
That looks like a VEPR of some sort.

I have some limited trigger time on the ACE. Very controllable and smooth shooting, but I was plinking steel at 25y so I don't know about accuracy.

>>32104424
Yeah, you're probably right. I don't see the left charging handle. The handguard threw me off

>>32104292
Shit. Get a vepr or saiga.

>>32104365
>Azrizona
>Not Utah
I bet you don't even /cultreligion/ down there. Pleb state

>>32104477
Totally worth it. Just look at all the BLM land and funs that are available.

>>32104440
into the trash

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>>32104405
Century WASR 10 rifles aren't bad. They are commonly recommended here as first AK rifles. Most of the Century hate comes from the rifles they build (RAS47, C39, ect.), while the WASR is a rifle that they import from Romania. Earlier imports had problems with canted sights and mag wobble, the newer imports seem to have ironed out these problems.
I own one from 2014 and it has none of those problems, have over 1k rounds through it with only one failure due to a bent up mag.

>>32104757
Awesome, didn't know that. Thank you.

What should I look for when purchasing a WASR then? Manufacturing defects and the like or should it be great out of the box?

>>32104106
I have the new VEPR pre-converted ak. Maybe yours has a different finish.

>>32104831
The AK snobs with fancy youtube channels and sell classes and whatnot still consider the WASR the best AK before you start spending about twice what the WASR cost.

>>32104831
AK operators union has a video about picking an AKM. I wouldnt be too autistic but check for canted sights, check rivets, and make sure a variety of mags fit if possible.

>>32104852
>>32104859
Once again, thank you guys very much.

>>32104363
It's a Saiga 12.

>>32104852
That was a shot directly at AKOU wasn't it?

Atleast he does a good job of demonstrating that a shooter who knows what the fuck he is doing can land good hits at distance with AK's, something the AR types constantly poo-poo.

Is $630 good for a century ras47?

>>32105007
>ras47?

For the love of god do not, unless you're permanently displaying it.

>>32105031
But it's on sale

>>32105007
don't buy a fucking RAS47 you idiot.
Save more for a VEPR or even a PSAK47 for $699.
Please lookup the AK operators union, the RAS fell apart pretty quick. The PSAK passed the 5,000 round test pretty well

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>>32105036
DONT TAKE THE BLACK FRIDAY BAIT

>>32105036
>But it's on sale

Do. Not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoInLpKQK8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oUwE7eL-2g&list=PLb711dtKBi0r4iq_9-Y9yNsL0ev4TpNjX&index=6

Is this a good deal? I also assume it's corrosive. Worth of nah?
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/418371/tulammo-ammunition-762x39mm-122-grain-full-metal-jacket-bi-metal-steel-case-berdan-primed-military-sealed-tin-of-640-32-boxes-of-20

>>32105050
Veprs are $650 here.
Is there really that much of a difference between a vepr and a century to justify the cost of some extra ammo?

>>32105152
>27 cent a round
no

just check this http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rifle/762x39/

>>32104639
y tho?

>>32105173
Thanks senpai, that's really helpful. I've never bought bolet online before but I guess it's time to stop getting jewed.

>>32105292
Tula crap. Paying .27cpr is too much.

>>32105311
Buy Golden Tiger. SGammo has some for 24 cpr.

What would happen if you stuck a Yugo grenade launcher muzzle attachment on a rifle without a gas shut-off and fired off a rifle grenade with a regular blank? Fucked piston? Kaboom?

>>32105978
More than likely?
The grenade just won't go as far.

Real GL blanks might cause an issue as they're quite a bit stronger than "parade" blanks, but you're probably not going to run across any of them since they're basically collectibles.

>>32104292


>DDI

>specific model is known to explode

vepr.

>>32105160
Not an AKfag but it depends on your preferences. I think all Veprs have milled receivers, and I think many of the Vepr sporters come set up in a sporting configuration. I can say the WASR definitely isnt a piece of shit, though I'd be wary of anything built by century. The WASR is imported by them though, not built. My friend has one and he loves it.

>>32106306
I've never seen a vepr with a milled receiver.

>I think all Veprs have milled receivers
Zero Veprs have milled receivers, Molot doesn't do milled AKs.
They do have RPK bulged front trunnions though.

For anyone who is interested, Apex has top loading Romanian surplus drums for $110.

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>>32104262
>>32104357
We tacos and AKs now?

>>32106625

I looked into it. They're not actually Russian like they were saying last month. Glad they changed that.

>>32105160
>Veprs are $650 here.
Where? I can't find one for under $800.

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>>32106634
Oh yeah

>>32104262
>>32104147
God dammit, I've been looking into getting a new truck (actually my first truck) and I've been debating on what exactly to get since I don't even know what I should be looking for

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Logan County bro if you happen to be around Dunhams has all center fire ammo 20% off.
Got some nugget food and slugs.
It's unfortunate the only AKs they carry are those American centuries.

>>32106924
/o/ here
8' bed, 3/4 ton or more, diesel or Vortec. Never dodge. Never 6.0 or 6.4 Ford.
Or you are in fact gay and a basic bitch.

>>32107365
What if I just want a Hilux to make into a technical?

>>32107146
not that guy but is this ohio? i may go to the logan county range tomorrow if anyone wants to meet up

What's the difference between a 47's FSB and a 74's FSB? I don't see it.

>>32107884
Angle. AKM is 45 degree, 74 is 90 degree.

>>32107654
Yea Ohio. I'd be willing to go but I work from 2-10pm at LCSO

>>32107884
The major difference is that the threading is built into the 74 FSB. 24mm RH thread. The AKM FSB is just the FSB, and the barrel itself is threaded to 14mmLH.

>>32107378
Get something more comfortable if you're going to half ass it. If it's dedicated than get a Rubicon, can't build one for what they go for. 04-06 manual

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When the US contracted Arsenal to make AR-M1s for the Iraqi Army, what made them go with a barrel nut instead of an actual muzzle device? Cost?
Also, can anyone identify that rail and/or optic?

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>>32108033

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>>32108033
>>32108042
Even Iraqis go for Circle 10 waffles.

I've been wanting a budget 5.45 ak for awhile now and was looking into veprs. From what I understand veprs are not compatible with normal 5.45 mags. How much effort is involved in modifying it to work with the normal mags?

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>>32108033
>>32108042
>>32108050
I'm not gonna lie, I'm only posting these because I realized I managed to accidentally put together a clone of the Iraqi Army's "AR-M1" service rifle, with the exception of my RPK-style muzzle brake (it came with a plain barrel nut).
It's one of DDI's kit builds from Bulgarian parts. Also note that the Iraqi rifles (with the exception of the second pic) even use 45-degree gas blocks and AK47-style FSB. This is inconsistent with Arsenal's current "AR-M1" offering.
I'm pretty sure some of DDI's builds, including mine, were from leftover parts from Arsenal's Iraq contract.

Anyone know which mags were produced by the Circle 11 plant (Poland), and when? Any info I come across pretty much discusses Izmash, Tula, and maybe Circle 10, but I'm wondering if there were other Polish mags besides steel. I obviously don't mean the new polymer "Circle 11" V-project mags.

Where can I get one of those bipods that attaches to the cleaning rod? I can't find the fucking things anywhere on the internet.

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Happy Thanksgiving boys

>>32108789
Happy Turkey Day to you too. And your big fat cat.

>>32108800
I just got home and he's already sitting with me on the couch.

My other cat is currently licking his butthole in the middle of the carpet.

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>>32104236
You're missing a pin hole

>>32108837
And it's not even /k/aturday.

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>>32108881
Every day is /k/aturday in my house anon

>>32109015
You're living the dream.

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>>32109015
Me too

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>>32102249
Nice pic of black AK w/turkey. Better than the "forgot to wipe" edition. FIME VEPR FM-AK47-11

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>>32108789
What optic and how much?

I really want a slav optic for the side rail on my 104

Happy Turkey Day

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Looking to buy my first AK but I dont know whether I should buy a 74 or "47"
I'm leaning towards the 47 right now

>>32109421
7.62 vs 5.45 cpr, dude.

>>32109421
aim has arsenal 74's on sale now

>>32109401
Obzor 1P63, they can be had for around $450 ish

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So a while back I decided to let my inner poorfag out and ordered a knockoff RS regulate mount for $80 for both the upper and lower pieces. It arrived ages ago but I was running my TWS dog leg already.

Completely forgot that I bought the thing until today when I found it in my parts crate.

I mounted it, did some minor adjustments and viola! Its solid, centered, and way more professional looking than I could have imagined.

There are no signs of poor craftsmanship or any casting lines. If any of you fellow poorfags are interested, I'll post the link below.

Saturday I'll be shooting with it and testing it out, will report back when done.

>yes I realize its airshit but fuck it.

>>32109684
where'd you get it

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>>32109684
http://m.ebay.com/itm/322050642035

Are these mags shit?
https://www.cdnnsports.com/545x39-30rd-black-bulgarian.html

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>>32109720
I have the 2x 40 round 7.62x39 versions. And I honestly can't complain. They feed reliably but I wouldn't "go to war" with them.

>>32109699
Here m8
>>32109703

>>32109738
alright thanks. Just wanted some cheap range mags for the new arsenal im gettin. The mags ive seen are like 40 bucks a pop.

>>32109760
Yeah man just don't do anything wild with them and they'll be fine. They'll hold you out until (hopefully) slavshit stops being so overpriced.

>>32109753
so it holds zero and everything?
I would expect it to want to jump off the gun or maybe not even fit

>>32109421
can anyone identify this fore end?

>>32109808
I'll be finding out Saturday if it holds up to shooting. But right now it's as solid as a fucking rock. And I'm also surprised that it fit. I always figured that airshit would be out of spec for safety reasons.

I'm looking to buy my first ak and I don't know a god damn thing.
Is it possible to get a good ak for $500-600 dollars?
Is disassembling/cleaning an ak a bitch?
Anything else?

>>32109870
>Is it possible to get a good ak for $500-600 dollars?
Not anymore. Expect to pay 650+ plus for a wasr. THough prices will continue to drop in the coming months hopefully.

>Is disassembling/cleaning an ak a bitch?
Quite the opposite. Really easy.

>>32109870
>I'm looking to buy my first ak and I don't know a god damn thing.
Google is your friend

>Is it possible to get a good ak for $500-600 dollars?
WASRs (7.62x38) are dropping in price again, you might be able to pick up a used one.

>Is disassembling/cleaning an ak a bitch?
Cleaning is so easy a conscript can do it

>Anything else?
You just lost the game.

>>32104162
I regret opening this thread.

>>32109900
>Google is your friend
Not that anon, but googling has led to many conflicting answers on whats good and what isn't. One site will say something is shit while another will say it's great.

Also, checked.

>>32109930
I am that anon and I completely agree with you. Between the inherent fanboyism and conflicting reports, I feel it is tough to make an informed decision; especially because it is my first ak purchase.

>>32109961
My apologies then m8. But you cannot go wrong with a new production WASR. It's the best bang for your buck at the moment. I love mine and doubt I'll ever sell it. Next step from a WASR would be a VEPR and after that maybe an SLR. Beyond that you have "custom" rifles like Rifle Dynamics, Difinitive Arms, ect. Great rifles but 4 times your current budget.

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>The workings of the Nikonov are extremely nuanced. Many have attempted to realize and rationalize its internal operation; and have given up, failed, or just guessed. This weapon can fire, eject, reload, fire, eject and reload, with perfect reliability, while almost totally eliminating recoil, in less time than the human eye can blink. Quite literally, the Nikonov fires two rounds just 33 milliseconds apart. Your eye blinks in 150 milliseconds. So you can imagine that an attempt to break down this mechanical function; so compressed in time can be a tedious task. So bear with us, we shall now expound on the internal function step by step, starting from a closed, loaded chamber, with the selector set to burst mode.

The trigger is pulled, and through a series of linkages (which will be explained later), lets the slidinghammerloose. The sliding hammertravels down its guide rails in the receiver to strike thefiring pin, at the rear of the locked bolt. The slidinghammeris allowed to shift sideways in its rails, and lock into place, becoming a fixed part of thecarrierassembly. The cartridge is ignited, projectile begins moving, and rearward recoil begins acting on the entire locked receiver. This recoil energy overcomes the receiver’s inertia, and the receiver begins to travel rearward, at a comparatively slow rate. As the bullet passes the gas port, energy acts on the piston, just above the barrel. The relatively lightweight piston andcarrier assemblyis forced rearward, unlocking the bolt from the breech. As the bolt travels to the rear, it acts on thecable and pulley, which activate the cartridge shuttle. The shuttle travels forward to strip a fresh cartridge from themagazine and presents that new cartridge into the cartridge carrier, just ahead of and above themagazine. The spent case has ejected; the bolt and carrier begin their return to battery; the barrel and receiver are still traveling rearward.

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>As the bolt travels forward to meet the barrel, and the barrel travels aft to meet the bolt, the cartridge carrier raises and presents the round between the barrel and bolt. When the bolt and barrel meet and lock with a fresh cartridge chambered, thehammer, still fixed to the carrier, ignites the cartridge immediately upon locking. A second recoil impulse transfers more recoil energy to the reciprocating receiver. The receiver finally reaches its rearmost position within the envelope. As the bolt completes the second ejection cycle, and reaches its rearmost position within the receiver, it delivers a rearward blow to the receiver, delaying its return forward, but allowing enough time for the cartridge carrier to present another fresh round. The bolt, carrier and barrel can now return to forwardbattery, with a live round chambered, ready for the next burst. And the shooter has only felt a single recoil impulse – seemingly the result of only the second shot fired. The end result on target is two very closely placed shots. In the full automatic setting, the first two rounds always fire at the burst rate of 1,800 rpm, and continued fire resumes at the normal rate of 600rpm. As the user fires in full-automatic, the slidinghammerdoes not travel with the carrier; it is only released at the moment that the bolt and receiver return to forwardbattery. Semi-and full-auto modes of fire utilize the reciprocating sub-receiver to attenuate recoil and improve accuracy and time of follow-up shots. The burst function makes use of the extended time interval during the receiver’s rearward travel.

>>32110095
>>32110111

That's nifty as all hell.

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>>32110138
https://youtu.be/R7jThx1PebE

It's insanity

>>32110095
>>32110111
>implying that's not just false information to deceive the rest of the world that the slavs now can manipulate time and space itself

>>32107334
hi rooftop

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Hey akg, is it normal to be able to see through an ak like this? It's between the gas block and handguard i think. Pic related

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>>32109820
It's a Ronins Grips handguard.
They make them in like 18 colors, too.

http://shop.roninsgrips.com/Yugoslavian-Furniture_c18.htm

>>32110208
Yeah its fine man. Mines the same way.

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my stock screw wont go all the way in. What do?

>>32110208
Yes.

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>>32110660
put the other screw in that hole and it should go in.

>>32110675
ill try it

>>32110095
I never realized jamming the next round most of the way forward into the chamber while extracting the case from the previous round would increase ROF.

Less resistance to the bolt slamming home not having to strip it out of the magazine? Or purely the distance it has to move the extra mass of the cartridge?

There isn't really that much room between magazine and chamber on AKs anyway...

The real magic is how the fucking thing fires while the barrel and bolt locked together again are still both recoiling.

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>>32110675
It worked. Thanks comrade

How are these? I remember them not lasting long last time.

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/lee-armory-battlefield-pick-up-romanian-ak-47-detail.html?Itemid=0

Trying to decide between a WASR and a SGL. What are the pros and cons of each? There seems to be a lot of mixed info. Is there anything better that I may be missing? I'm poorfag btw so not looking to spend more than $700-$800.

so i was thinking about getting an sbr'd ak pistol, which is preferred between a draco/m92 pap?

>>32104162
Sar?

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>>32107898
Except Romanians kept the 45 on 5.45 it's just drilled funny

If I buy one of those pre-converted veprs, what are my handguard options? The ribbed black poly ones look ugly as shit.

>>32104147
Your truck is fucking gay faggot

>>32111497

converted in what way?

>>32111625
One of the new square back ones that K-Var is selling. Looks like normal AK but something is different about the front trunnion.

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>>32111691

Looks like you would be stuck using RPK style handguards. You could get a wood set to put on it. It should take any standard AKM/RPK stock.

>>32111755
Know where I can find a smooth polymer set? I don't want something super susceptible to heat or water damage, I just hate the ribbed look.

>>32102641
How did you manage to get your foot in your mouth and your head in your ass at the same time?

>>32102249
Too bad it is illegal to hunt with turkey with a total capacity (chamber + magazine) of 3 in most states.

>>32111789

No. There may be a hogue set that you can modify but they are probably rubberized. Mako makes a god-ugly set with rails and slots everywhere.

>>32111851
Yes, it is too bad. But as we all know, shotgun magazine plugs are a thing if you need to reduce your magazine capacity for hunting.

>>32111918
Eh, I mainly only use shotguns for turkey hunting and clays (which is my favorite game by a large margin). Not much point to a saiga for me. Seems the main reason to get one is a larger capacity with a detectable magazine. I guess it might be fun to shoot clays with, but you only need two shots for skeet and one shot for trap. Ranges are really strict about only loading 2 for skeet or 1 for trap in your gun at once. I wonder how theyd react to that. It would be a bitch to have to detact, load the magazine, and react inbetween in shot, especially when I can easily go through 200 rounds in a day at the range. But there is no way they are going to let people move around the range with a loaded and chambered gun.

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>>32111594
Thanks pal so is yours
> oh wait ........

>>32112141
>sling positioned so the ink stamp is showing
Subtle

>>32112163
Kek

I haven't see a horse stamp mustard sling before, kinda neat

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>>32112163

Only way to do it.

>>32111865
Bleh. I may just get the chaos quad rail. Or the zenit b-20. If that fits. Damn. I was gonna just get an SLR-104fr, but these guns just seem more durable. The AKOU testing of the slr-107 made it look pretty meh.

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>>32112174
I was told by the seller it was a pegasus stamp but who knhoes what that means.

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>>32112218

Meh, I'd get the SLR but that's just me. I like the idea of that Vepr with wood RPK handguards and club-foot stock, otherwise it just doens't appeal to me.

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>>32112259

It means it has a pegasus on it, you daft fuck.

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>>32112295
Great deduction Watson! Now is there any pertinent information or are you done being a retard ?

>>32109318
What stock adapter are you using? Nice setup.

>>32112259
I suppose it does depict a Pegasus, I just have seen people refer to it as a horse stamp

>>32112163
Not him, but of course

>>32112279
I am usually an ARfag, but I have to admit, that is a nice AK.

>10/10 would own

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>>32112307
Ok, who on akg made the news?

>>32102641
desu my saiga has a horrible finish it is wearing off in a few places and i've never even shot it. its got the fuckin waffle-chip or whatever they call it where an import mark got ground off so im just gonna grind that bitch down and refinish it.

>>32108224
The DDIs were built useing older Bulgarian kits as the first milled rifles they offered used Bulgarian Bakelite handguards and the pink "bubblegum" stocks.

>>32110995
Dont think you are going to find an SGL in yout price range.

>>32112279
A lot of my interest is caliber based. 7.62x39 is more available and a harder hitting round. And as I said, the arsenal looked mediocre at best in akou testing.

>>32110995
>>32112478
this. theres a clean sgl with 3 mags for sale on arfcom, hes asking $1250 shipped, which is a good deal in todays market. pre election, people were asking crazy numbers like $2k 9whther they were actually selling at that price, i dont know)

>>32112438
Have fun. Because that won't remove it.

>>32112639
gib link pls

>>32112762
my bad, jjust noticed its an sgl20, not 21. i missread it bc i was on my phone. i didnt even know that model existed before now
>http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_122/1604675_WTS__Arsenal_SGL_20_with_3_mags___1250_Shipped.html

>>32112438
>i've never even shot it
YYYYYYYYY

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Shit I wonder what happened here..

>>32113019
Failed customs and is being sent back

>>32113036
has it happened to your package before? Curious if it's a paperwork problem or a prohibited item? It's just a vintage hider and sling. Do Russian sellers have some code language to declare item as?

any good deals around on AK optic mounts and vortex or other decent quality optics this black friday?
It's "WSAR; part russian and party century arms." according to the family member I'm buying for.
Also need to get him some CA mags.

>>32113647
WASRs are AKM's. Anything designed for AKM pattern rifles will fit. As far as deals on optics/mounts, I have no idea.

>>32114079
Thanks; found this mount thanks to someone in the black friday thread:
https://www.amazon.com/NcStar-Pressure-Flashlights-Tacitcal-Airsoft/dp/B0072KNSL4/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1480105295&sr=8-29
While it's labeled as "airsoft" it looks identacle to the part listed in the other thread:
https://22mods4all.com/en/ak47-74-side-mount-with-side-rail/96-aksm2-ak4774-side-mount-with-side-rail.html

Seems like a good pick, but my only concern is the old adage of "you get what you pay for."
Thanks for the help, don't know too much about AKs just yet.

>>32114159
NCSTAR a shit.

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any reason i shouldn't get it ?

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/lee-armory-battlefield-pick-up-romanian-ak-47-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>32114159
If you're absolutely going to go cheap, then id say the acceptable minimum would be UTG.

>>32114236
thanks, I'll give them a look

>>32114202
counter suggestion?

>>32114299
Anything from RS Regulate. Costs more but actually a solid product.

>>32114227
Lee armory is an unknown quatity at this point and Brownells and Tombstone Tactical have Wasrs for under $630.

>>32114577
i have a WASR i got it for 500$ but i want another ak memes aside i guess i could get a DDI but what else is there

>>32114621
The most recent DDI shat that bed at like 500 rounds into AKOU testing. I would just get one of the new Veprs.

>>32114641
okay ill take a look, what about furniture conversion cause that hand guard looks ugly

>>32114675
It takes RPK furniture. That shit is my main gripe. I'm getting one soon and I want to abandon that shit ASAP.

>>32102249
Is there anyway to salvage a barrel threads once the muzzle device is pinned?

I've found a upper I really want but it has a shitty A2 pinned to it.

Anyway for someone like adco to remove or would I have to get a whole new barrel?

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Are Troy railed gas tubes worth it? Looking to add it to my AKS-74.

>>32114693
yeah thats a problem, any info on high standard aks? also should i stay away from parts kits built by people like Atlantic Firearms ?

>>32114746
Railed gas tubes are a flawed concept imho. And from an objective standpoint they undeniably make the gun more frontheavy when it's frontheavy enough as it is.

Whats a good affordable option for a folding stock for my SAR1? Ideally would rather not cut the tang and looking to keep it somewhat correct (eg. no magpul). Looking at wire folders but they seem like they would be miserable.

>>32114746
>>32114876
it's the only way to mount a red dot on an AK where it wont lose zero constantly, or at least better than side mount or dust cover rail

>>32114876
Yeah, my problem is is that I have no side rail attachment point. I've looked in to those replacement rear sight leafs with the mount for a red dot, but many say they rapidly lose zero.

>>32114735
You can usually grind over the weld to expose the pin and knock it out

>>32114766
My buddy has one. It seems pretty good so far. No chrome lined barrel though, and they do not have a side rail for mounting optics.

>>32115102
oh okay maybe ill just stick to the vepr and dress it up as an SVD or RPK

>>32114641
>>32114675
DDI is fine. Don't listen to the retards.

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>>32114933
Go wire folder. It's awesome. Is it perfect? Fuck no but it's cool; authentic; and fits with the romanian

>>32115075
Thanks bro

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So I got this AK-100 series/true black magazine and there is writing on it, can anyone properly translate?

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>>32116036
Other than "Mouzon/Muzon"

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/morr-aam-rom47-red-detail.html?Itemid=0

i know wasrs are cheaper but with having to buy new wood and what not. i dont know. would be cool to have a trunnion with 70s date
being in cali i have to decide pretty quickly

>>32116220
I'd prefer a wasr personally but I get the appeal. Use a credit card and buy both.

Are Magpul Gen 3 AK Mags good?

>>32116047
Music in ghetto language.

Anyone have a RS Regulate BM-1 light mount? Are they good?

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hey guys, i have two questions, one is simple and the second is an ongoing process

1. how do i find cool, mature range buddies that aren't dumb, reckless rednecks like the type of people that throw plastic and spraypaint cans into a bonfire instead of just cooking marshmallows and relaxing?

2. help me build a poorfag ak

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is the Zastava M77 any good? Been thinking of getting another AK variant and for whatever reason, x39 just doesn't do it for me, but .308 certainly does(hint, almost all of my rifles are full power cartridges, .308/.303/x54R/7.5x55/etc).

Got this gem from Legion USA today.

Man, if mags could talk...

(It says "death to the circumcised," i.e. Chechens)

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>>32117070
I'm retarded and forgot pic.

What's the value of a SAR1 in today's market?

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I would like to use 5.45x39 for cheap ammo and glorious steel core.

However, problems that I'm facing are
>no folding stocks with comfy cheekwelds
>right side charging handle, who the fuck designed that?
>""""uncomfortable""" controls/ergonomics
>questionable accuracy

"redpill" me on the AK platform, /k/
do these problems need to be fixed, or do they not even exist at all?
are there custom parts that fix these problems?
and in the end, how much will it end up costing me?

>>32117261
GUN IS DESIGNED FOR EVRYONE!!! NO NEED TO FIX!!! ONLY CHILD OF WESTERN TRY TO FIX GLORIOUS RIFLE!!!

seriously though. the gun was designed for conscripts. if you're used to AR's then you have to relearn how to shoot with an AK. The "manual of arms" has literally no similarities.

personal feelings is that people who are well into the whole boutique AR thing try to do the same with AK's and then start complaining that it's, essentially, not an AR.

Also, accuracy is pretty good. 5.45 rifles can shoot pretty damn well out to 400m and beyond. x39's can shoot pretty accurately to 300m.

I will admit the pistol is WAY to skinny. and I;ve changed them out immediately. As for folding stocks, get a Arsenal with a solid folder.

>>32117388
*pistol grip

sorry, forgot that.

>>32112316
I second this question, can't find a stock adapter that I'm not going to have to modify in some way, fuck.

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>>32117406
>Mfw glorious fat Polish grips

>>32117261
Right handed people are best suited with guns that eject to the right side. It was simplest to put the charging handle in the same cutout as the ejection port. It was also designed decades before the Chris Costa/Haley "NEVER EVER REMOVE YOUR HAND FROM THE PISTOL GRIP.. RELOAD THE GUN IN YOUR WORKSPACE.. TAP RACK BANG.. RELOAD WITH YOUR SUPPORT HAND" mantra. Just take your right hand off the pistol grip and charge the gun.

>>32117511
They put the charging handle on the right to make it easier to train conscripts from bolt action Mosin's to AK's. Doctrine at the time (and for quite a longtime at that) was to charge the gun with you right hand. Same with mag changes.

>>32117388
i'm noguns so no relearning

let's say that the magwell and controls are right where they need to be and I can go through normal operation without fumbling or reaching, it doesn't add on any additional 3gun time, i'm not at a disadvantage to an attacker with an AR, etc

would buying an cheapshit ak and putting a new stock and a new barrel in it be satisfactory and less costly than shelling out for an Arsenal ak74?
or do you basically have to spend $1200-2000 on an AK out of the factory to receive quality, accuracy, and reliability?

>>32117511
You can always tilt the gun left and charge it with your support hand. Pretty sure that's how Haley runs his.

>>32104262
>tfw no front locker

>>32117579
Those acrobatics are completely unnecessary when your right hand works just as well. And if you're using an optic it complicates things. So you can go under, but that's even more awkward.

>>32117576
Not every gun has to be the most high-speed low-drag gun ever designed. It's okay to buy a gun just because you like that particular gun. Also it's no simple task to change barrels on an AK, put that thought well out of your mind.

>>32117628
Why do i need a front locker ?
Its got the rear.

>>32117576
technically it does add a little. the saftey is supposed to be actuated by your right hand. again, doctrine was to move the selector off of safe when you went on patrol and not to touch it until either you needed F/A or you returned from patrol.

unless you have freakishly long, and strong, fingers, it'll add to your time.

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>>32117641
you're right friend, I need to get out of that mindset, sorry.
It's all about enjoying shooting.
>>32117727
okay, SAFETY ALWAYS OFF, got it.

can we have the optics talk?
what do you guys like to use for 200-400m?

>>32117579
>>32117641
Why not just reload and charge with your right hand?

>>32117793
Well I mean, I didn't intend for you to take it that far. It's not ALL about enjoying shooting. My Glock 43 isn't the most enjoyable gun to shoot but I bought it because it's easy to carry and reliable. It all depends on what you're buying the gun for.

>>32117899
That is exactly what I'm saying though

>>32117949
range fun and perhaps (god forbid) making the government or dindus fuck off should they decide to infringe upon my freedumbs

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Why didnt the Soviet Union persue 5.45 drums?

>>32114227
Lee Armory is shit.

>>32117996
just guessing? drum magazines are expensive to manufacture, in the sense that they are labor-intensive and contain many moving parts requiring fitting, etc., and I will guess further that they decided 40-45 round mags for the RPKs were sufficient.

>>32117996
The same reason they got away from them when they ditched the DP28. along with everyone else who used drums.

They're bulky, heavy, and complex. you can carry several drums, are for the same weight, you can carry more ammo and not have you mag pouches get snagged everywhere.

Also, to complex for conscripts. Same reason the U.S. didn't formally adopt drums from the Thompson. Too many moving parts.

>>32117996

safety always on

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>>32117996
Seems like they haven't given it up yet.

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>>32118298

What red dot should I run with my ultimak?

>>32118353
MRO

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>>32117070
>>32117105
Just cleaned this up from the same order.

I would have sex with this bakelite tbqhf

ak prices will drop when trump gets in right? or will the companies say fuck it cause the tards are still buying it for the current price?

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So, a buddy of mine has a bunch of Circle 10 Ak74 parts that he is willing to sell me(pretty cheap. Pretty sure they're not #'s matching though). It's mainly all the important stuff. Only things I'd have to get is furniture, barrel, and FCG.

So here's my question. Who should I go for, for a receiver? BTW, he has everything to build an AK minus the flat bending jig and a kiln.

I've always wanted an old triangle side folder, but price for the stock alone is kinda salty for me. Think I might do a Polish tantal style side folder.

What do you guys think of this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK10_OFq2Nw

>>32118514
nothing is stopping you from nutting on it

>>32118702
You want to do it right down the finest detail but are willing to wait 2 years? 74u LLC.

Just want a gun with an excellent quality receiver that might not be quite as detail-correct? Childers Guns.

Triangle side-folders aren't that expensive but you'll want a ribbed buttplate with the "rolled" support struts for it to be accurate for a Bulgarian build. You can either get a 4.5mm folding trunnion and stock from K-VAR when you get your barrel or check AK Builder for the Taiwanese-made clone in the same pattern.

Be aware that if you're following 922r compliance, you will need one more compliance part in addition to the US-made receiver and FCG.

>>32118869
Well, God damn. Thanks dude!

Does anyone run a 1-6x or similar on their ak?

kind of tempted to get this http://www.opticsplanet.com/primary-arms-primary-arms-1-6x-scope-with-patented-acss-5-56-5-45-308-reticle-ad.html?_iv_code=29R-RS-PAPS1-6X-PAPS1-6X-KIT1

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>>32119021
No prob, I wanted to make an Afghan War-style AKS-74 and nearly did it on a Bulgarian kit, but ended up going Russian instead.

Also, I misspoke, you will need *two* more US compliance parts for 922r. In your case it will probably be the barrel and the gas piston, but you can also replace the pistol grip (easy to get an authentic-looking US-made one for a Bulgy build), muzzle device, or magazine follower or floorplate.

>>32119216
>People STILL think 922r matters
It doesn't.

>>32119274
Like I said, if he wants to follow it, that's what he'll need. No harm in giving info. I'm having an FFL build my rifle so I had to make sure he had compliance parts first.

>>32115281
The extractor sheared off of the bolt at 500 rounds. How is that fine?

>>32119784
Not trying to be That Guy, and hoping to keep everything civil here.

But yeah, an extractor failing at 500 rounds is not a good sign and there's no way to spin that.

It was, of course, a sample size of one. Maybe a batch of extractors got incorrect heat treatment or something. I have no way of knowing.

This kind of thing is why manufacturers submit multiple firearms--dozens, hundreds--for testing for government contracts and nothing is based on a sample size of one. A bigger sample size would tell us more. And I know, Rob Ski is only one guy.

With the extractor replaced, AKOU is continuing to test the same rifle and is past the 1000 round mark on the new extractor, 1500+ on all other components, and the gun is still running and the new extractor is showing no signs of problems yet.

I do notice, and it's visible in the videos on Youtube, that it looks like in the DDI rifle the bolt carrier is smacking the front trunnion and peening both parts. Is it normal for those parts even to come into contact? I have a WASR (in b4 "lol poorfag") and while I don't have 1500 rounds through it yet, I will say those parts aren't peening in mine and don't appear to be coming into contact at all when the rifle cycles.

>>32118702
http://www.recreatorblanks.com/online-store/!/Seventy-4/p/67974655/category%3D18837117

In case you don't want to wait 2 yrs for a good receiver. These guys get all the details correct for a 74 receiver instead of just rebranding a Tantal

>>32119946
It shouldn't be wearing that fast. I wanted these to be good, but it looks like DDI still has a lot of work to do.

>>32114227
Jesus Christ STOP FUCKING ASKING ABOUT LEE ARMORY NOBODY KNOWS SHIT ABOUT THEM BECAUSE NOBODY OWNS ANY OF THEIR RIFLES SO NOBODY KNOWS IF THEY'RE GOOD OR SHIT

RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE

>>32110291
will this fit bulgarian slr rifles?

>>32120453
>Yugo specific
>Will it fit Bulgy rifles
Nope

>>32120473
I figured but I thought I would at least ask

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>>32121014
Fair enough.
You might be able to get Ronin to mold one for you though.
Couldn't hurt to ask them.
>Seems like all their wares are made to order, so I wouldn't see it being too far of a stretch.

>>32121052
cool.
thanks for the idea I will have to ask

>>32116649
answer plz

>>32121174
Nobody owns one, obviously.
>there's your answer
I'm sure if it's like any of RSs other stuff it's fine.
>other than being a barrel mount which, in theory, might mess with harmonics

How about you buy one and let us know?

>>32121192
Alright. But is there any other way to mount lights on an ak without getting a rail?

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>>32121219
Echo 93 MK65 mount maybe?
You could always try and fit the RS on your gastube, just don't clamp it down so hard it pinches the piston.

>>32121246
How does that work with regular stocks like in your pic? Drill a hole and get a tap & die kit?

>>32121315
>Stock
They're handguards, but whatever.

I think its just drill the holes.
The mount is tapped, and that's what the screws secure to.

>>32117156
650-775

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hi guys. Im that one guy who thaugt he scored a polytech AK (keep in mind im a complete ak newbie). Took it to the range today, and im gonna dump pics as i clean it.
How much did I get robbed ?

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Unknow AK

>>32121794
>>32121800
Are in america ?

>>32121844
If I was a betting man I would say he's french Swiss.

>>32121880
I ws thinking European too, if not i think thats a kit build. Bluing looks mighty uneven.

>>32121906
I think he was going off of the newspaper

Just looks like a Chinese AK to me

Where is a good place to buy wooden AKM furniture? I want to replace the wood on my WASR.

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>>32121910
Fuck, i did not even see that .

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I've been thinking of picking up an arsenal in 5.45. Problem is, my local range doesn't allow steel core ammo. They take a magnet to your ammo too.

Is there any 5.45 ammo that's not steel core?

>>32122062
Hornady. Polymer tipped.

>>32121880
bingo

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>>32119943
Dude, go out and get a bottle of testers and fill those stamps in

>>32110150
.implying they cant

>>32121794
German Swiss Bro here, you got fucked up the ass like me...you got skype or something?

>>32122396
I do. What's the big deal that you can't write on k chinz ?
According to the finish of the furniture and the gaps betweens the parts, i'd say I (we?) baught a norinco AK that somehow was made by polytech.
That said, i'd be really happy is some ak guru could explain.

Euro chink bound AKs aren't the same quality as older American pre ban chink stuff.

>>32122450
Well I can here no Prob, these new Polytech AKs are very shit in Quality, the Hammer breaks after 100rds and de Finish is very bad. Polytech Brand name was used by some China Company, no way near the Quality of past Norinco and Polytechs. I was very unhappy with my 2 2015 Polytechs and sold them both.

>>32122479
You're starting to scare me a little ... I shot 100 rounds today without problems though. Aside from the hammer and furniture, are all AKs so ''rough'' ? I'm used to the good old fass 90 and that rifle feels like a steel elephant.

>>32122512
No. Decent AKs feel fucking great. You can get straight up Russian ones in Switzerland right? Do that and be impressed.

Just ordered a couple of circle 10 mags & a izzy bake. Can't wait.

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Finally was able to compare my Maadi and Norinco side my side this Thanksgiving. No shooting, but it was neat just being able to compare them one in each hand instead of just from memory or pictures.

I didn't take any pictures because my dad, uncle, and cousin were all there looking them over with me and listening to my AK autism and I didn't want to weird them out further with a photoshoot.

>>32122930
That is a nice collection you have there. I just joined the slr 104 club myself

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>>32123006
My Norinco has slightly more sentimental value because I grew up with it, but my SLR is by far my favorite of the bunch.

>>32122062
>Is there any 5.45 ammo that's not steel core?

None of the commercial is steel core. But most of it has copper-washed mild steel jackets, so if they're testing everything with a magnet, they're not going to accept it.

>>32122512
Some AKs are smoother than others. Even rough ones will smooth up after a few hundred rounds, especially if you lubricate them properly--lithium grease will help the parts lap together.

>>32123044
Kinda hoping I don't get the bubble finish. It's not really that big of a deal but it's sad that rustoleum holds up better.
Jealous of Maadi. Shouldve snagged one years ago when they were cheap and decently available.
Never got into Chink aks but that shit is nice

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>looking through /k/
>start looking at ak thread
>remember living in canada
>fuck my life

>>32123052
I'll feed my new girl a few hundred rounds and see how it goes then.

>>32104363
Nigga that's a DDI 12

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does anyone have any experience with the Zenit B-33 rails and how to install them?
I got em in the mail the other day and set out to install them today, but it looks like rob took down the installation video

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>>32122300
Idk man they look kinda tacky imo

It's nice not having nick and the the DDI shills shitting up the thread.

>>32123213
Seriously? I would try sending messaging Rob on FB. He might have a backup somewhere or something.

>>32123213
What's the issue?

>>32123262
yeah i sent him a message
>>32123282
i just wanted a reference point to go off of. it doesnt seem as hard as i imagined it to be and now im just shaving off materials to fit my rifle.

>>32123230
Eh. I just couldn't imagine mine without it. I nabbed an slr 104. Plum furniture and triangle stock when?

>>32123234
Please do not summon them.

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>>32123350
Do it

>>32123548
Yea, next thread I'm going to be posting some slav optics, one points, pistol grips and furniture to fund it. All mint, brand new or barely used. Figure I'd sell here before I post to the files

>>32123548
What was that scope mount you recommended? I think it was the kvar newest offering but wasnt sure

Hey /akg/, I just got jewed at a gun show. I bought two steel AK mags for $10 each and the guy claimed they were new manufacture from Eastern Europe, just got home and found a "Made in Korea" stamp on em. How much did I get jewed? I heard that Korean AK mags are dubious quality, are they gonna fail on me, what should I look out for?

>>32124050
They're poor quality.

They may or may not fit your gun. If they need fitting, remember to file on the cheap stuff (the mags) and not the expensive stuff (the gun).

If they will fit in your gun, a lot of these mags have the little dimples on the insides of the feed lips a bit too low. Those dimples are supposed to keep the magazine follower from rising too far and jamming between the feed lips at the top. But in some of the Korean mags the follower can't rise far enough to put proper spring pressure on the last 1-2 rounds in the mag so those don't always feed correctly. The bolt cycles and the top round doesn't always rise into position to be picked up and chambered, etc. You can fix this with a Dremel. Just don't cut off too much material.

It's an awful lot of work to fix a $10 mag but you asked.

First try the mags in your gun to see if they work. Sometimes they do--though they may not last as long. The springs aren't very good. And if you pick up one of these mags and heft it and then pick up the real thing, you will also notice the Koreans are using very thin metal compared to the Warsaw Pact stuff.

It still may be usable as a range mag and if you can get it in the gun and if you can get it to where the follower rises high enough, it can be a decent range mag and still better than a Pro-Mag. But by all means see if it fits, first, and correct that if possible, then take it to a range and try it out.

>>32124050
Granted they are shitty quality, but that's close to what people are asking online, so you didn't loose out to bad. You can tell if they're decent mags by the thickness of the metal, Korea mags are about as thin as a tin can.

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Anyone here can weight how a civilian Chinese Type-81 might turn out? Or hell even how the Chinese military Type-81 holds up as AK style patterned rifle?

As of right now they are ghost rifles none have hit the market yet so no one knows fuck all and we got is hearsay from the importer.

$999.99 MSRP then if looking to throw in spare mags would bring the total package up somewhere under $1300 Canadian fun bucks after taxes. wondering if its worth it to take a pre order now or wait and see if others get it in for cheaper? or worse case miss the boat and pay more

>>32124158
There's one in the U.S. Mags are extremely rare here. Since your in Canada, buy that since you can't get an AK.

>>32123988
Arsenal sm-13 mount

>>32124171
They don't use AK mags, then?

New thread

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