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>inb4 pissing match with nick defending DDI
>inb4 DDI isn't shit

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I baught a Polytech AK47 last week but cant figure out if its legit. pic related is the only markings.
Any help with that ?

Re-posting this in new thread because I didn't update thread.


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Found this on AKfiles thread
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286811&page=16

Well, let me tell you about this one time at Rob camp. You see, I know an AK company that got 6 or 7 sample extractors in for testing built to the AK companies print. They decided not to use them because they broke during testing from what they determined the heat treat was to high, near 58RC. All of them broke in under 1K rounds. Now, there was a few of those extractors left in a small bag that was properly labeled with the date, vendor and a note not to use. They don't know the exact number, maybe two or three were left, but that was it. Now, fast forward to today, that little bag is now missing, but they do have a broken extractor that was sent from Rob camp that they measured at about 58 to 60RC. Now that CEO when he found out about that little bag with those few extractors missing got down right pissed. The rest of the story should not be told to sensitive ears.


Looks like someone at the DDI factory is getting fired, also I dont see how the CEO is a scumbag he actually talks to customers and gets on internet forums and deals with AK autists.

4th for fuck off Nick you fat Jew

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>>32089479
I see you posted your awesome gun(s) to show how shitty mine is :^

>>32089525
And there we go, lemon extractor confirmed.

>>32089541
I like that AK you posted, mine are all stock nothing added yet.

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>>32089525
Also people see Dave Fillers as a scumbag because of an AK autist. A single shitposter who is borderline stalker-tier of DDI and won't shut up about how is gen 1 PSA AKs are 100% better.

>>32089519
Post a full pic of the rifle; it's the easiest way to tell. The shit finish certainly looks correct.

>>32089531
Typical anti-DDI retard: can't even count.

>>32089555
Congrats on liking DDI :^

>>32089575
>Typical anti-DDI retard: can't even count.

>4th post ITT


Keep digging that hole deeper fatboy.

>>32089525
if that shit is true than rob needs to update and give ddi a fair chance

>>32089575
As I implied, I was ready to buy 2x of them after a ton of research. (It was a panic buy before election) but Rob Skis video of extractor failure got me to hold off. I still might get one but thankfully Trump won so I have plenty of time to see how other's experiences go. And in the meantime I have some others to play with.

>it's another 'Nick uses the thread as his personal blog and shits everything up' episode

We get it, you were too poor for the Arsenal.

>>32089451
Like:
1. That they include a rubber strip to screw on in place of the cheek riser.
2. It locks up folded over the siderail.
3. This is the first time I've had adjustable LOP on an AK and I can already see how handy it will be. For now I'm keeping it at standard Warsaw length.
4. Looks slick.

Dislike:
1. Typical Russian shoddy finish. Or might have been roughed up in the warehouse, it was clearly stored in only a plastic bag.
2. Requires quite a bit of force to extend/retract. Maybe it will smooth out over time.

Observations:
I don't have a precise scale, but the weight of the PT1 minus the cheek riser seems to be very close to a standard AK100 polymer stock with the cleaning kit inserted. Maybe an ounce or two more. Doesn't throw off the balance of the rifle.

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>1/2

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>>32089616
>2/2

>>32089525
either ddi was lazy leaving the useless parts around and then a worker was careless enough to use them without reading the package or someone did it intentionally with malice. id believe either.

>>32089525
The plot thickens.
Also people take BobSled's "tests" way too seriously.
It's a sample size of 1, and has zero indication of quality except the quality of that singular rifle.

But this faggot >>32089575 who dickrides Fillers like no other, also claims NPAPs are shit because the 1 Rob had cracked.

So it's a wash and Nick is a shitposting faggot who's opinion is completely invalid.

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>>32089595
>4th for
>Fourth for
>As in, the fourth person to have this opinion
Learn to write with proper syntax rather than expecting others to have the same shitty command of language that you've got.

>>32089608
Their kit builds are fine and I'm sure their hammer forged rifles will be fine as well. I'm sure future experiences will be fine, but to find out we'll have to wait for the next 4k rounds.

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>>32089626
Well, it's wearing MAK 90 furniture, has a MAK 90 front sight, and other Chinese AK traits, so I'm going to go ahead and say it's probably a Polytech like the stamp states.

>>32089614
Nice.
Appreciate the observations and opinions of it as well.

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>>32089643
It's a Chink but a Norinco. A BWK-92.

>>32089219
Ammo availability

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>wife walked in on me taking a pic of all my mags laid out on a desk and asked "Why do you need that many magazines?"

>>32089664
Ah, I thought you were the person from the last thread asking if his Polytech is legit. My bad.

>>32089675
>need

>>32089675
Did you ask her why she has so many shoes?

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>>32089675
>His mags will fit on a desk
You clearly don't have enough yet then.

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>>32089675
>wife

>>32089689
Build me one too, I NEED

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>>32089439

>>32089714
Nice mag bag.
What are your steel 40s?
Romy?

>>32089685
>>32089686
These are the first two things I mention whenever this comes up

>>32089698
They were just my 5.45 mags, not every magazine for every gun that I own

>>32089699
She's my best friend and she doesn't care about me buying gun stuff, she just gets frustrated at me spending hundreds of dollars on slav polymer when in her eyes I have more than enough.

>>32089724
Ya all romy that i know of, tho one has a really nice blued finish . Really smooth

>>32089643
You're the fucking cancer of AKG.

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>>32089734
>They were just my 5.45 mags, not every magazine for every gun that I own

Just roughing you up a little m8.
Also that's not my pic, just something I had saved with a bunch of mags.
I don't have a group shot of all my AK mags, unfortunately.
>Too many to get in one shot on my shit phone camera.

Where's the pic you were taking though?

>>32089641
>also claims NPAPs are shit because the 1 Rob had cracked
NPAP is a great rifle, though I'd prefer OPAP thicker receiver but that's only preference either are fine. The only issue I had with either was lack of chrome lined or nitride treated barrels.

>>32089803
Rob also tested another NPAP that didn't pass 5000rds

How long until Arsenals are imported again? Is there any other company that makes AK-100 series rifles like Arsenal?

>>32089812
arsenals are not AK100 series, they are just dressed up like them

>>32089829
Thanx u captain autism

These any good? Shopping for my next ak heard good things about em.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak47-moe-rifle.html

>>32089809
Looking forward to seeing how the VEPR holds up in his Clash of the Titans series.

>>32089832
ur welcum

we'll probably see more arsenals next year

only other option is a parts kit or shell out for an SGL on the secondary market

>>32089439
>rpk mag
please stop this meme
it is a 45 round ak mag of its respective caliber

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whats a good price of a wasr? will the price ever go back down?

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>>32089809
The 1st one wasn't in the 5k challenge.
That one was before that "test" existed.
But it is somewhat worrysome that he got 2 that were iffy.
>I'd prefer OPAP
My OPAP was one of the first batches that has night sight cutouts and from the rumors, was from factory demilled machineguns that were rebuilt into sporters for Century.
So I think there's a little more than just the thicker receiver going for them.
>At least some of them

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>>32089783
I posted it in the last thread, some meany called me a faggot so I had to prove him wrong that little doodoohead

I can't get a group shot of all my 7.62x39 mags as they're divided between my apartment and my parents' house.
With me I've got:
>6 refinished Polish
>6 Egyptian
>4 random eastern European

At my parents' I've got:
>At least 13 Chinese flat backs (all bought in the 80s and I'm unsure exactly how many because every time I visit my dad finds a new one he had stashed somewhere)
>4 random eastern European
>1 Chinese drum

>>32089798
I want some 45 rounders but I don't think I'll ever even use them because I'd be tempted to just magdump 24/7 and IMO I just don't like the look of them in a standard AK (looks great in an RPK and looks pretty good too in a Krink, but in a rifle they just look weird to me)

>>32089829

arsenal SLR's are licensed AK100 series guns, not the same parts as russian AK100 guns but they pay royalties to izhmash for them.


India makes ak100 series and so does venezuela, just because their not russian parts doesnt mean their not ak100.

>>32089525
If this is true, then it goes to show that DDI did in fact identify that a batch of their extractors were shit and those in particular were not meant to be used in their guns. But why didn't they just throw them away outright? I still think that DDI holds the most promise in the US made AKs, but even given all the problems surfacing with Arsenal AKs, broken exractors won't be one of them. Canted parts and bubbly paint won't shut an AK down.

Arsenal really does need to get their shit together though. When even century is getting their barrel components on straight there's really no excuse anymore. And I still say that slight cant isn't the end of the world, but come on.

>>32089858
Except that's a 40 round mag.
And since it was manufactured specifically for the RPK by Molot, I think the moniker is perfectly founded.

Go back to lurking.

>>32089889

can't on a ak isnt a problem at all, if it zeros its within military spec.

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>>32089641
>Claims NPAPs are shit because the receiver cracked after 5k rounds
>First one failed the test
Sounds like a failure to me.

Awesome conjecture, btw. I believe they're shit because I have personal experience with them as well. Right now I know someone with less than 500rds through his gun and the bolt tail is fucked to the point where the gun doesn't cycle properly.

>>32089853
>http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak47-moe-rifle.html
IDK but 4150 is good barrel steel and it's nitride treated so that's good. PSA is generally a good value brand.

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>>32089875
They are fun man .... i get atleast one .

>>32089900

>shitty Gp1975

wew.

>>32089853
WTF a PSAK in stock, what timeline is this?

>>32089899
Then Arsenal should drop their prices a few nuggets.

>>32089899
I agree, but if budget tier AKs seem to have cracked the code, it's time for Arsenal to step up to the plate

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>>32089909
>GP1975
You're retarded, newfag :^

My SAM7 SF is flawless, but last year I went to buy one and it was not even close to straight. Spending $1400 on an AK better be perfectly straight.

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>>32089875
I almost like my 45s more than my 30s honestly. You should get some

>if nothing else they make great HD mags

>>32089925
Why? Show me a new production combloc AK (yet alone Bulgarian, arguably the cream of the crop) with a 24mm thread and a 100 series folding stock for less than the ~$1100 an SLR costs

>>32089909
Nick may be a homo but that rifle isn't a GP1975 and it is very far from shitty.

>>32089829

Wait. So a Saiga IZ132 is not a AK-103 platform?

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I have a WASR for 7.62x39.
I'd like to get a rifle in 5.45, but I don't understand the differences in most 5.45 rifles, like SLR-104, 107, Sam7, ect. Any chance someone can break it down for me? Iv been lurking for a few days and all I see is talk about mags. Don't get me wrong, I love mags too, but I want a reason to buy 5.45 mags. Thanks.

>>32089985
Best bet is a good condition SLR104

>>32089875
Not a bad little collection.
Got any shots of the Egyptians?
Are they "Made in Egypt" stamped Egyptians or just run of the mill Egyptians?

What about the chink drum?
75 or 100?
Factory number?

I went off the deep end with mags.
Here's my current list of 7.62x39s.
>No 5.45 rifle, so no 74 mags

12-Izzy Bakelite 30rnd (2 Cyrillic)
5-Tula Bakelite 30rnd (1 Cyrillic)
7-Yugo BHO 30rnd
1-M64 Yugo BHO 30rnd
25-Romainian 30rnd
1-Izzy Russian Steel 30rnd
2-Finnish M62 Green waffle w/lanyard loop 30rnd
10-20rnd Hungarian Tanker
2-40rnd Romanian
2-40rnd "European" (Unknown origin likely Romy or Hungarian,from SG)
1-75rnd Romanian Drum (rear load)
2-75rnd Romanian Drum (top load)
4-AK103 Poly-Phenolic
6-Molot 40rnd Steel
2-((10)) 30rnd - Black
4-40rnd Molot Bakelite
6-Russian Aluminum Waffles
2-Izzy Steel Slabsides
1-100rnd Chinese Drum (rear load)
1-20rnd Chinese Type 63 black phenolic
4-Polish 10rnd Blank mags (2 blued,2 matte finish)
3-Bosnian 2 Rib

>>32089983
>Saiga
>Arsenal

>>32089956
Is that a tourniquet wrapped around the stock?
And a IFAK inside the stock?

>>32089883
the slr 104 is an AKS-74 with polymer furniture, and the 107 is a mutt of aks74 and akm parts specifically choosen to skirt russian patents.

they are fantastic rifles but there's more to the AK100s than polymer furnirture, even if most of the changes are relatively insignificant.

>>32090008
Russian bandage and a tourniquet. the guy who runs russiansurplus.net has a deal on izolenta/bandage/tourniquet for 25 shipped so I decided to slav up my rifle a bit. Good excuse to have basic medgear whenever I got shooting now too

>>32089985
SLR-107 = 7.62x39 100 series rifle
SLR-104 = 5.45x39 100 series rifle
SAM7 = Milled abomination trying to be a 100 series of sorts

>>32090004

The SGL series were Saigas, were they not? When someone says Arsenal I think of those, not the Bulgarian or other shit they use now.

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>>32089664
Get that faggotty birdcage off of there, go grab a muzzle nut or slant brake.

Cncwarrior.com sells them in different threading if yours is cut at 1/2-28 or some nonsense.

>>32090028
Seems like a good way to keep it available. I have a dozen or so CAT TQs and a couple Soft T TQs. I might strap one to my rifle or sling.

>>32090058
If you're gonna do it, do it right now, come on

Also the tourniquet is actually really nice compared to bare metal. Haven't shot it like this but holding it and doing drills when I'm bored, feels good

>>32090049
Not him but the Type 84 birdcage is at least somewhat correct for that rifle.
>not sure if that's what he's got on it though.

>>32090030
>>32089997
I think Iv also seen a 106? Does anyone besides arsenal make 5.45 rifles worth getting?

>>32089998
>Got any shots of the Egyptians?
Not right now, its too late. There's nothing special about them, though.
>Are they "Made in Egypt" stamped Egyptians or just run of the mill Egyptians?
Just run of the mill plane jane shitty paint Egyptians but I wanted them to go with my Maadi. I want a made in Egypt marked one just to have one but since there's no real difference in the two it isn't high on my priority list unless one pops up for cheap.

>What about the chink drum? 75 or 100? Factory number?
I have no idea off of the top of my head. Next time I visit my folks I want to note all this stuff because I've always been curious about the details of them all but have always been to busy doing family things to indulge my autism over AK stuff

The only 7.62x39 mags that I really have an interest in picking up are a few Russian slabsides and side stamps, maybe some aluminium waffles, at least one current 103 mag, and some visibly used/BFPU ex-Yugo mags. I'm really not as interested in picking up 7.62x39 mags as much as I am about 5.45 mags for whatever reason. I grew up with my Norinco but I've never been as interested in AKMs as I have been in 74s, especially after I finally bought an SLR104 a few years back.

PSA has the MOE AKs in stock, I'm frankly surprised because all of their other AKs have sold out near instantly, should I get one as a first AK? Also it says you need to be 21 to order, WTF is that?

>>32090068
I'm at work. Ill figure a way to strap a CAT to my stock or sling later.

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>>32090049
It's an a2 ar flash hider. It sort of resembles an 84s one. I need a new jam nut, that one is too thick and not parkerized or whatever finish they typically put on.

>>32090091
>21 to order, WTF is that?
Shitty company policy.

>>32090111
Well its not like they'll know if I'm not anyways will they? I figured it was just a mistake because they also sell AR lowers and handguns but no complete rifles so theres nothing else on their site that you could buy at 18

>>32090083
the 106 is a 5.56 ak. They have a rather dodgy reputation and use an AKM bolt for it instead of a 74 bolt. According to some more knowledgeable people it's retarded and causes problems.

>>32090030
SLRs aren't 100 series, like >>32090022 said they're more AKS74s with polymer and weird bastardized AKS74/AKM hybrids depending on model.

>>32090031
SGLs, yes but they were merely converted in the US and only the -94 variants with folding stocks are full on 100 series clones.

Arsenal is a confusing name because there's both Arsenal Las Vegas and Arsenal Bulgaria and they're unrelated outside of Arsenal Las Vegas importing stuff from Arsenal Bulgaria.

>>32090083
>I think Iv also seen a 106
The 106 is in 5.56 but has been discontinued (last I heard at least)

>Does anyone besides arsenal make 5.45 rifles worth getting?
Honestly besides SLRs and VEPRs (either original ones or those new ones) not really, no. At least not new. Waffen Werks was a company that made some pretty good 5.45 rifles before they went to total shit and started producing garbage. DDI did some 5.45 rifles which were good and affordable but they were a one time thing. Saigas were a possibility but they're no longer imported and have been slowly climbing in price. SGLs were great but again they're no longer imported and they've exploded a little in price. There are the offshoots from other country's rifles in 5.45 that are still available used in the US like Tantals and WASR-2s and stuff like those but again they're pretty much all second hand now and some have had issues in the past.

When it comes to 5.45 you're considerably more limited than you are with 7.62x39 rifles. The general consensus for buying a new 5.45 rifle is just buy an SLR104, buy a VEPR and convert it, try and find a leftover 5.45 Saiga and convert it, or pick up one of those new VEPRs if you're ok with their kind of goofy look.

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>>32090088
>Just run of the mill plane jane shitty paint Egyptians
That's what guys usually have.
Nice to have something Egyptian to go with your Maadi though.

>I want a made in Egypt marked one just to have one but since there's no real difference in the two it isn't high on my priority list unless one pops up for cheap
Yeah, that's probably not going to happen but good luck.

>I have no idea off of the top of my head
That's cool, was just curious.

>The only 7.62x39 mags that I really have an interest in picking up are a few Russian slabsides and side stamps, maybe some aluminium waffles, at least one current 103 mag, and some visibly used/BFPU ex-Yugo mags
I'd like a couple side stamps as well, I pretty much have all the rest.
Unless you're referring to slabside 103s those are on my list too.

>I've never been as interested in AKMs as I have been in 74s
Seems we're kinda opposite ends of the spectrum
I really just can't get into 74's. Yet.
Though I do love some plum.

>Some slabs and waffles for your time, friend

>>32090022

>skirting patents

Arsenal bulgaria pays Izhmash royalties on every SLR produced for use of Izhmashes AK100 series patent, so again how is it that they aren't 100 series? Even though they are close enough that izhmash demands royalties for using the AK100 patent?

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>>32090103
http://www.cncwarrior.com/Type-84-style-birdcage-flash-hider-p/21783.htm

The list of sizes has a typo- 1/2-28 (it says 1/2-20 on the drop down menu erroneously) assuming that you need 1/2-28

$21

>>32090158

SGL is nothing but a arsenal converted saiga, calling a hacked up saiga sporter conversion a ak100 is a stretch, I didn't know Izhmash used commercial saiga receivers for their Ak100 guns.

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>>32090201
Yup, I just spotted that, thanks anon. I'll be ordering this and a new jam nut soon. My gunsmith friend threaded it to 1/2-28 and I was kinda bummed because I wanted an authentic 84s flash hider, but I'm glad to find that I can still retain that look.

>>32090219
I meant that as in the -94 folding stocked versions are the closest to 100 series clones we can get

>>32090226
I would do a crush washer, torque it down and forget it.

I've had good luck with their parts before, very well made.

So are there any Arsenal style rifles with the AK-74S/74M style side folder?

>>32090286
>AK-74S/74M style side folder?
What do you mean?

>>32090296
Are there any AKs for sale that are made in the Arsenal style that aren't Arsenals because Arsenals are getting hard to come by

>>32089505
Okay. I'm not a metallurgist but I was given to understand that 58-60 RC was not excessive hardness for most types of steel--cutlery steel, for knives, is typically hardened to the mid-high 50s, and 60-62 is for files, high speed cutting tools, etc.

What is the proper hardness for an AK extractor? I know there must be a spec, somewhere, but it's probably written in Russian. Does anyone know?

>>32090219
They don't use commercial receivers.

>>32089525
With that knowledge, I think Robski should make his current 5,000 rd DDI test "official" again.

>N-PAP for $680
>WASR for $700
>Vepr 16" for $1100
Which one should I go for? I want the Vepr, but $1100 has got to be overpriced even for Commiefornia.

Aim has 45 round 5.45 bakes for $65. Just picked up my first ak74 and have only a shitty promag, is this worth it?

>>32090689
It's not great, but might be the best you'll find at a retail shop.
Forums or group buys here would probably net you a better price.
>Legion also has them and they have flat rate shipping ($10)

But try and show a little restraint and get more for less.

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Sure. Why not

>>32091145
I love mismatched furniture. Now you just need a cheese grater or something.

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needs paint

>>32091547
Why is the red dot so high?

>>32091568
its just the factory riser, not sure if i want to run a laser on it yet or not

>>32089525

>I dont see how the CEO is a scumbag

Well, for one he apparently doesn't listen to anyone except low-eds and keeps building guns that nobody asked for.

Seriously, clone Arsenal's 104 and 107 series and don't cut corners. It's that easy.

Got a line in on a lightly used SAR-3 that comes with 4 bulgy circle 10s. Only issue is it's a 5.56.. think it's worth it for $550? In 7.62x39 it'd be a no brainer but I don't know much about the 5.56 versions.

>>32091538
One does not remove bakelite from an AK.
Everyone needs at least one ak with mismatched furniture. My others are too fucking correct due to autism

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>>32091772

>>32091648
Fucking buy it

>>32091648
Go for it.

>>32091815
Hnfff

>>32091815
Nice pair.
Still rocking the dong on the 5.45

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>>32091887
Its really comfy and i have my saiga if i need correctness.

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>>32091897
Correctness 1/2

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>>32091897
2/2
Autism achieved

What would my SAR-1 go for nowadays? I paid 500 for it in September 2015

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>>32090219
So many years have passed for you to educate yourself and stupid shit like this still gets posted

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is airshit allowed to play here?

>>32091951
>>32091946
Thats a nice looking rifle.

>>32089439
ARfag here, what tools are required to build an AK from a kit and 100% receiver?

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>MFW $7 steel AK mags on Palmetto's website

>>32091867
SR-3 / SR-3M "Vikhr

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>>32092044

>>32092075
Needs a bigger hammer.

>>32092039
Thanks man. Almost butchered it to pit a triangle on it. Had the rear trunnion off. I was gonna do that and throw the bulgarian bakelite hgs on it.
Yours are nice as well

>>32092065
Those are shotguns dood

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>>32092044
You will need a punch set, drill press, and a hydraulic press.

>>32092113
Those are prototypes.

>>32092111
Thanks, i really like the fixed stock look myself . Honestly a slr 104 is the way to go if you want a folding 74.
>unless you autism is too strong and you need that 5.5mm+

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>>32092113
>>32092160
And back on goes the trip...

>>32092160
holy......

>>32092160
What a jackass.

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SR-3 "Vikhr"

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>>32092358

>>32092312
it worked

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>>32092358
>>32092379
Original SR3 > SR3m overfolders 4 lyfe

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>>32092397
>>32092423
Thought about giving out my trip code actually.

Wish 74u length AN was a thing

>>32092268
I will agree with you on that. It'll be a while before I even think about getting anything. Already have a 68 izzy and 1990 aims 74 kit that need parts/building. Krink forever delayed

>>32092434
do it faggot

now

hue hue hue

>>32092464
>he doesn't have the tripcode cracker extension

what is word

>>32092480
>CNN
believing you

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>>32092444
Wtf is that heavy pos!?

>>32092501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhTv7XCDmEc

hue

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What's a better happening gun, an AK or an SKS?
Thinking of buying this AK on Friday, but I've heard they are inaccurate.

>>32092517
source?

>>32092525
buy I.O. avoid arsenal

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>>32092546
What about the ADD 63? I've been looking at the last pic I posted and this one... I'm leaning more towards the Add because of the front grip... Ive never owned a gun before ;_;

>>32092559
>buying anything from Classic
They're as bad as CTD. Stop giving them money

>>32092534
RS1A3 Mini Rex
https://youtu.be/hmE4tNXwtMI

>when it opens the fucking door

http://www.cncwarrior.com/7-62x39-Metal-Reinforced-Bulgarian-Polymer-30-rd-p/25153.htm

Is CNC warrior reinforcing these themselves? I've never seen Bulgarian polymer slab sides with reinforced lugs.

Anyone have any suggestions for polymer handguard for a Vepr? Only ones I know of are the fake SVD ones from black horse arsenal and the MOE adapted ones from Canis. I'm not really fond of the idea of ordering from BHA after finding out about all the shit they pulled awhile back, and Canis still hasn't gotten back to me at all about the hand guards I ordered from them 8 months ago.

>>32092559
the AK market is pretty much garbage right now. the best starter AK is a WASR, they're going for around 700 now. it's chambered in 7.62x39 which is usually recommended for a first AK. Or if you have ~1300 to spend get an Arsenal SLR 107. you can't go wrong with either of those two. and make sure to check if there is any cant. that can ruin your day

>>32092695
http://shop.roninsgrips.com/Russian-Vepr-Polymer-Handguard-VeprHG.htm

>>32092559
Hunt for deals at least
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/599537944

Bump that up a little and see if you hit the reserve

>>32092702
Tombstone tactical has them for 630
they seem to go in and out of atock though

>>32092702
Brownells sells the WASR ar $589. Put a stock notification on it.

http://www.brownells.com/firearms/rifles/semi-auto/wasr-10-16-5in-7-62-x-39mm-blue-30-1rd-prod89532.aspx

>>32092559
You need to chill out and till next summer or so to buy an AKM. Now that King Nigger won't be in office anymore the gun market will FINALLY be able to stabilize. Unless you're a Californian, which is experiencing their armageddon panic since pretty much all guns are banned starting in January. AKs in particular are due for a price correction. The key is to buy when they overcorrect and before they rebound again.

>>32089519
Swissbro I made the same mistake...these new polytechs are SHIT!!! I sold mine for a loss...damn Swiss Gunshop Jews

>>32090315
I think DDI's supposed to have a 4.5mm polymer side folder but that one has a FSGB, besides haveing someone do a custom build for you and finding all the parts for it your out of luck.

>>32093030
But what if it happens on Jan 20th? I want to be ready. So what if I lose 200+ on a shit ak. I just want it to be reliable for the next year or so. If I'm wrong, Welp, I'll be winning so much my head will spin and I'll be able to buy a proper arsenal ak

>>32089541
Slick! I like it

>>32089698
oy pizdec

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>>32089714
M8

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Anyone know where i can get a proper buttplate for this stock

>>32094134
AKM or AK-74 pattern? AK-74 has a lightening cut on the side.

Apex has an AKM buttplate, but I'm not sure if it'll work for your stock. https://www.apexgunparts.com/ak-buttplate-assembly-w-trap-door.html

>>32094188
its akm. ITs the stock from the dong set
https://www.apexgunparts.com/romanian-ak47-akm-laminated-stock-and-handguard-set-refinished-w-blemish.html

That one looks like it should work.

>>32093987
Lols i had 4 at one pint kept one for reasons. Actully works well.

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>>32092605
Nobody knows?

>>32094713
Just buy surplus steel or circle 10 waffles.

I'm in the middle of my first ever AK build right now, and it's been a lot of fun. Bulgarian AK-74 with black polymer furniture.

do you guys think there's any chance that the Donald will lift the floodgates for cheap AK parts kits again? I got mine for like $350, which is kind of expensive since a barrel is >$100, receiver ~$75, etc. I could make my own receivers though.

>>32094731
This and bakelites

>>32094713
No, they're not reinforced by CNC Warrior. They're standard Bulgy commercial polymer mags, with steel reinforcements from the factory. I believe they're from the same company that makes those ugly 40-rounders with the rounds molded into the side.

I've seen some people say that the feed lips are still cracking, like one would expect from unreinforced mags, but I'm not sure how exactly.

If you want to buy a few, I don't think you're taking a huge risk, since they're a whopping $10. But they're certainly not tried-and-true like reinforced bakes are.

Hey guys, thinking about picking up a .308 AKM but I'm at a loss if the Vepr is the way to go
So...
Galil ace in .308 or Or Vepr .308

>>32093987
>have one of those mags
>it came with an AES10B
>no fucks given

Do steel 5.45 magazines exist for less than 80 dollars?

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>>32094814
The ones on CNC Warrior are $40.
I have a couple of the $12 ones (with reinforced feed lips) to test how long they'll last. The only issues I've heard of with them are the locking lugs wearing out after a few thousand rounds' worth of shooting. Oddly enough, they come with "made in Bulgaria" stickers on them but are also marked CAI.

>>32094893
There's guys on Files selling Romanian ones around $50 and Polish ones for $35.

>>32094760
How much of a motherfucker is it to build? It seems if your not mentally handicapped you can build an AK for almost what you would spend on an arsenal and get the exact rifle you want.

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How much would a pre-ban Norinco with a all bakelite set go for? Guy wants over 1k for it and I must say I love the way it looks.

AIM just sent out their Black Friday flier; Arsenal SLR-104s are gonna be $999.99.

>>32093112
I'm starting to think that its a norinco that simply happened to be produced in the polytech factory.
Could you develop more on why you think its shit ?
Its not as good as i thaught it would be, but at least its not one of those century abominations with sights not aligned on the barrel and such.

>>32095422
Its pretty late here. Ill post pics of my "polytech" in AKG tomorrow evening.

>>32095036
it's not too bad actually, if you have the tools already

you need a 20 ton press, and a drill press is highly recommended

just do your research and take it very, very slow so you don't fuck up when building

I'm at the stage where I've done my headspacing and populated the barrel, I have a really nice tight fit on the gas tube. Now I have to remove the barrel from the front trunnion and rivet it into the receiver.

I bought some specialized tools for a few hundred dollarydoos from AK-builder, but my parts cost something like this:
>Bulgarian AK-74 parts kit: $350
>Nodak Spud AK-74 receiver: $90
>Black Nitride AK-74 barrel: $110
>Rivet set: $10
>Side rail (optional): $30

So you're looking at ~$590 for the complete rifle, not including tools, shipping, and FFL transfer fees for the receiver. Even better if you can make your own receiver, or make one from a flat

Hey guys i have a simple wasr 10 with magpul furniture, where is a good place to get internal and external upgrades???

Not making something fancy just a hog gun

>>32095549
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I want to build one but I don't have a shop. Or really the space for the tools but I got a buddy I might buy the tools for if he gives me a place to work. What kind of press do you have. Also do you have any experience or knowledge on making your own receiver? I'd like to build my own so I got one fighting rifle off the books. I've read that is hard to get the heat treat right on it.

>>32095621
>wasr
>magpul
Why are you even here?
We only discuss tier 1 ak's here, not tier 45
Get out

>>32095264
Aim surplus? Can you upload the flyer?

>>32095760
Molot VEPR conversions and a few mags are on sale too.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=8045&name=BLACK+FRIDAY+DEALS

>>32095676
I don't know much about making the receivers, sorry. Apparently it's pretty easy, though.

My press is 20 tons, from Greg Smith Equipment in Newark DE. We also have one of their car lifts, they make good quality stuff.

I based most of my build on this guy's videos, they're very informative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOT3boiVwUg

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>>32091547
Bruv... Why the long face?

>>32095621
Putting the original wood back on is the only external upgrade you need.

How is the trigger? If the trigger is good, no internal upgrades are needed. If you need a really nice trigger, the ALG AKT is a $50 part.

All you really need are mags and ammo.

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>>32093553
Swirly bake a best

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>>32095705
>>32095705

>>32095910
the AK came with magpul on it

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>>32096245

>>32096324
Is magpul recyclable?

>>32096448
i like it, never got the wood craze like y'all

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Anyone know where I can find one of these little sight tools? I can't find it anywhere.

I got an Izhmash Kobra RDS a while back and it didn't come with it. I can adjust the sight fine without it but I'd like to have one to make it easier.

I got it for free so I can't complain about it not coming with the tool to begin with.

I might have to just make one myself.

>>32096577
>Kobra
>Free
wtf explain?

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>>32095091
>>32095091
>>32095091
Anyone want to comment?

>>32089675
Time for a divorce

>>32095091
polytech norincos go for 2k

>>32096645
In Ocala right? I don't really know anything about Chinese AKs but $1500 seems like a decent deal looking at some of the prices on gunbroker. That being said, those folding stocks look fantastic.

>>32096635
>Help guy I shoot with sometimes with a thing.
>Take this "broken" Kobra, if you fix it it's yours.
>Kobra doesn't lock onto rail for shit, flops all over the place
>It's missing a 1mm thick washer on the lever.
>Make one in like 5 minutes from scrap stainless steel at work.
>I fixed it so it's mine.

And that's how I got a Kobra for pretty much nothing.

>>32096817
Lucky bastard. Some people seem like they need help wiping their own ass sometimes. I'd just make one of those little wrenches out of scrap

>>32096817
am jealous friendo

>be me
>sell AK on GB
>buyer has a NY home address
>hmmm
>buyer provides a PA FFL file to ship to
>FFL is literally on the border with NY

SHALL

>>32096899
>>32096907
Thanks.

And yeah, seems like I'll have to make my own. Maybe I'll draw out a pattern and post it here when I do. I'm sure there are untold thousands of anons without tools for their Kobras.

So USPS didn't even care to see the FFL file. I mean why even have an FFL at this point other than providing insulation to myself from liability. The more I get into guns the more gun laws are just a mirage.

>>32097427
Well USPS fucked up because I'm pretty sure only FFL holders are allowed to send guns through USPS. Making sure you send it to a valid FFL is your own responsibility. You could mail a gun to a private address all the way across the country and most likely nothing would come of it. But if that gun got used in a crime, you would be the dead end on the serial number search.

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I just got back from my local FFL. Got a VEPR.

I just remembered I racked the slide but never pulled the trigger. I have to go 10 days now knowing her springs are tightened. What will be the damage? How am I supposed to live with myself?

>>32097786
it's an AK. it doesn't give a fuck

>>32097786
Way to go.
It's ruined now, just send it to me and I'll get rid of it for you.

>>32097786
Enjoy those light primer strikes lmao

RIP in piece hammer spring

>>32097786
Springs don't care if they're compressed or not. it's the action of moving them back and forth, or stretching them further than they're supposed to go that weakens them.

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>>32097786
>he thinks the 10 days of spring tension will damage vepr

>>32097831
>it's VEPR. it doesn't give a fuck

>>32096737
Yeah thats the one, I didnt want to post it because I was worried someone else would snatch it up before my paycheck cleared.

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How can I reduce the folding button from rubbing my thumb on my AMD?

Man on armslist wants to trade sig p228 for muh npap. IS this a good deal?

>>32098598
File down the outer ring that stops the button from going through the receiver? Maybe just enough to still catch? What's it look like inside, could it go past? What would happen if it did?

>>32098601
W. German or Exeter?

>>32092434
I don't expect a real answer but where the hell do you even start to find an AN-94?
and additionally, do you have a barrel on the way as well as the rest of the parts?

>>32098636
pretty sure its german. Waiting for his response to confirm.

>>32089875
You need some variety, those are all Bulgarians with like four plums

>>32098681
There's a few deacts in Russia, I think they're expensive and hard to find though, I kind of doubt over 5000 AN-94s have ever even been made, deact or not.

does anyone make AK's in 6.5mm Grendel?

>>32098681
>he doesnt know where to get AN-94 parts
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>>32098713
The top row are all true blacks, the first six in the middle are Izhmash plums and the last four in the middle are (10)s, and the ones on the bottom are Bulgarian sanitized Russian plums. I don't really care about having a huge variety of all kinds of different mags, I've just been really into picking up more current issue true blacks. I've got another 6 of them coming in from Russia next month.

>>32098765
There are 6.5 VEPRs

>>32098681
You definitely won't find anything for sale in the US. Russia is the best bet but a few deacts have been sold in Europe.

Eventually on rest of the parts

>>32098758
I've actually been tracking AN serials so far I've seen on preproduction guns 10230ish - 10324 so guessing they started at number 10000, markings on production guns are harder to see and do not having much luck

>>32098877
checked
kek

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Got my MD63 kit done, side rail did not get delivered and USPS shows wednesday but oh well, only need to redo 1 rivit and drill and rivit 2 more holes, also got AMD65 front trunnion screwbuild with original barrel refinished and with rivits for everything, going to leave the Romanian without finish.

>>32095705
and which AK's are tier 1?

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>>32099293
Pls don't feed the trolls.

Is $38 for Russian tula Bakelite mags an alright deal?

>>32089439
Hey /akg/, I talked to my LGS today and asked him to order a High Standard AKM. Did I fuck up?
I havent heard anything bad about the gun itself (other then the finish) but people never seem to shut up about High Standards Customer Service. Anything I should know?

>>32099938
I think I did the math and right now with shipping it might be slightly cheaper to get them off Rusmilitary but idk.

Thoughts on RAS C39V2?

>>32099938
Tulas are usually worth more than Izzys, so if that's shipped that's not terrible. You can get them for less if you keep your eyes open, but if it was an impulse buy I wouldn't lose any sleep over paying an extra dollar or two.

>>32100091
shitty but the receivers seem to hold up ok but unsurprising since they are milled from 4140 billets

>>32100161
What is the difference between Izmash and Tula?

>>32100238
one is from Izhmash and the other is from Tula

>>32100267
damn mane didn't figure that out....
was just wondering if one would be better shiiiit

>>32100238
Tula uses a star stamp, Izhmash has an arrow in a triangle. The reason Tulas are considered more valuable is because Tula was always a smaller operation than Izhmash, so they produced fewer weapons and magazines than Izhmash, with the notable exception of the AKS-74U, which Tula produced almost exclusively.

Really, the only reason the Tulas are considered more valuable than the Izzys is because they're slightly less common. Functionally, they're going to be identical.

How shit are the recently produced Croatian mags? Are they anything like the thin Korean mags?

>>32100372
Last verdict on Croat mags I heard was they don't even feed worth a damn. No idea how current that info is, though.

>>32100507
Yet here I am and my Korea mags have given me 0 issues. LONG LIVE WORST KOREA

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>>32100523

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How come when people post their AK's they dont post like a small summary of what they are showing? As a newbie I cannot tell what is what and its very annoying. After lurking here for about 2 months I just made an account in akfiles. I am hoping to get another AK this weekend to go along with my panic buy $680 wasr.

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>>32100630
>Have never double fed
>Never jammed
>Lock in tightly
>Lightweight
My literal only issue is the finish wears off a bit easy. Also my woo can beat up your woo

>>32100665
Probably because the guys who are showing it are usually one of the three:
>the regulars with fancy/custom AKs they repost every thread
>people posting bone stock AKs they just bought or are asking about before buying ("hurr is RAS47 good?")
>Zasta, who is posting unobtanium from Russia that none of us will ever get to play with anyway

Anyway just ask and people will tell you what's what.

>>32100665
It's just assumed you know about AK's if you post in an AK thread. Not everyone has autistic levels of knowledge.

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>>32099427
What's the story on this AK?

>>32099194
What are these two AK's? Whats specific about them?

>>32097037
Is this an arsenal? What all have you done on it?

>>32100704
>>32100706
Like I did with this post? Im trying to find how to word it without sounding like a sperglord.

>>32100741
Well the AMD (Bottom) is a Hungarian AK made for Paratroopers hence the D. The vertical foreground was to aid in stabilization and to keep hands off the sheet metal handguard since after a few mags it heats up quick. They are a very 'poorfag'ish rifle since the kits and built AK's aren't very expensive compared to other options. Also notable for using wood grips. Which are awesome btw. Has a fairly nice aftermarket but due to their cheap price they get bubba's a bit. They use a non standard rear trunnion hence the folding wire. His actually has regular plastic grips and a cheek rise so you can rest your cheek on it. They also take drums/20rds better than 30 Rds but in my experience 30 Rd bakes go in with minimal problems.

Source: I have one

Is that helpful?

>>32100799
Foregrip* sorry mobile posting

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Just bought an imported kit and everything is clean except for the muzzle brake and gas block. What is this strange green rust, what is the damage and how should I go about cleaning this?

To me it looks like something oxidized and I should just brush it, but I'm new to the world of AK.

>>32100201
What about VEPRS?

>>32101162
That looks like copper oxide. I'd guess from somehow having a round chambered for god knows how long for satan knows what reason. Solvent and a brass brush will probably do well. Nylon will be a bear to use, you're going to be scratching metal off of metal. The brass brush won't hurt the steel.

>>32101180
Well shit, I guess that's the price to be paid for romanian surplus. I shall take care of it in a couple weeks when I start building it.

>>32101180
>leaving a round chambered long enough to produce copper oxide
Eastern Europe, you never cease to amaze me.

>>32101262
And this was the muzzle/gas block. Just imagine what the depths of the barrel looked like.

>>32101180
Wait, that's the gas block and brake, not the chamber. God damn, I'm retarded. Same deal, definitely LOOKS like copper oxide. Maybe it's from the jacket being sized down the bore and depositing metal? Same concept, solvent, elbow grease, brass brush.

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we need a AK103 mag pepe.

>>32101285
So just to be clear, while this is unusual it isn't ruined and I can salvage this without having to contact the place I bought it from?

>>32101175
they're pretty good
durable 1.5mm thick RPK receivers but only single stack mags for 7.62 x 54mmR
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>>32100741
>What's the story on this AK?
It's just something I saved while looking for ideas for the Editions.
>It's the same one from the OP

I'm pretty sure it's just an Arsenal SLR-107 with bakelite handguards.

>>32100741
>Is this an arsenal? What all have you done on it?

It's a arsenal SLR 106. It's stock. Have not done anything to it besides put the sling on it.

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>>32089439
Did IO get a new name?
Or new competition?
>I can't wait for all the new people to start asking about these /sarcasm.

>>32101764
Shit, we still haven't seen an honest review of Blackheart or High Standard rifles. We assume they're shit, but we've yet to see any real testing. And companies just keep piling more on us...

>>32101836
Shit like this always happens.
If they have a good product, they'll be around long enough to get reviews.

More likely than not, they'll disappear or "restructure" and get a new name and put out junk for a few more months.
The AK market is extremely unforgiving when it comes to even a single screw up.
>Except for Arsenal, because they can do no wrong.
Hell WASRs were ok from '08 on, but it took until damn near '12 until people finally started regularly saying they were ok.
There's still plenty of "What A Shitty Rifle" people out there.

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>>32100694
This i would like to see. Also what ammo do you use in yours ?

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>>32101993

>>32098690
OK guy wants to meet, should i do it? Comes with 3 mags and a new parts kit.

I don't know shit about AKs

Is this something worth looking into?

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6137947/el-paso-texas-rifles-for-sale--great-opportunity

I've been looking for something a little lighter than 7.62 NATO as that's what all my shit is, and it can sometimes be difficult for people interested in shooting to have a good time with it, haven't decided yet though.

>>32102004
>Mirrored pic
>20" barrel, even though the pic is clearly 16"
>That used car saleman pitch description

Eh. It's not a terrible price, but I'd go over it with a fine toothed comb for any issues.
Since you "don't know shit about AKs" you might want to get a lot more specific info from the seller in order to figure out just exactly what it is and what it's value is.
>all the markings will give you an idea on what to google for better info.

>>32102050
I'll see if I can go take a look at it and I'll take notes.

Thanks

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>>32089439

How are VEPR's AK's? Worth $1000?
I already have an AR, so should I get 7.62 just for something different?

>>32102181
They're top notch.
The FMs which you're likely talking about are a little odd, with no cleaning rod or bayo lug, but if that doesn't bug you go for it.
It will outlast you and probably your kids.

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>>32102249

>>32102249

>>32101336
yeah

to clean that, I personally would try the cheap "foaming engine cleaner" they sell at Wal-Mart. fill up the bore, coat the pieces with it, let it stand somewhere, maybe in a glass jar (you don't want that stuff getting on your carpets or flooring), wait a few hours, rinse it off with plenty of boiling water. you'd be surprised what it will take off.