/akg/ AK General

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im hoping for good deals on ammo for black friday now that the election is over.

>>31948568
I panic bought but I don't care because I was going to buy that shit spaced out over next year anyway. Had to dip into my "need" money a bit after depleting my "want" money.

My only regret is I bought an SLR104 instead of the 107s or Saigas that might be coming back.

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>>31948609
well you can always have both.

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>>31948631
i like your style.

>>31948568

>that shirt

cringe. i bet on the back it says molon labe

I wanna buy an AK at some point in the future, but not sure exactly what to get. It's between

>7.62x39 VEPR

>DAKM4150

>something from arsenal

wat do /k/

>>31948635
I got a great gun either way. Might be a while before I get some money freed up for the other though.

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>>31948641
And I like yours. I remember conversing with you many many threads ago about getting a dong stock and triangle folder.

>call local gun store about ordering an slr104
>"Sorry we're busy right now"
>hangs up

well then

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VAL AND VSS WHEN BOYS

>>31948656
No, it probably says "sheepdog".

>>31948568
Pisses me off he has such a nice kit and half assed it by installing the rivets wrong

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i want an as-val
i want a vss
i want an ACTUAL vityaz
i want an an94
i want an ak9
i want an svd-k

GOD KING PLS

>>31948769
How about no? Why do you think russia would sell these even with sanctions lifted?

>>31948782
They already have a civi version of the vss in the works over there, if that goes well I don't see why we won't have more slav gats up for grabs.

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>>31948782

because it's fun to pretend you fucking aspie

>>31948803
That piece of shit has nothing to do with the real vss.

>>31948805
Alright, geez.

AK-107 WHEN FELLOW FAGITS

IMO, the real thing to be excited about is the possibility that both the VRA and the sanctions get lifted.
Then we get all the original Russian AK kits we want. :^)

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>>31948813

HOPEFULLY SOON YOU COCK GOBLIN

>>31948846
>VRA
What?

>>31948720

even worse

>>31948806
But it looks fairly authentic on the outside and isn't chambered in something so non existent.

I'd buy one if it meant I could shoot it.

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TRUMP TOOK MY ENERGY AND WON

FOUR ((4) (F O U R)) YEARS AT LEAST OF REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED EVERYTHING

THE 2A IS SAFE

What a time to be alive

>>31948568
https://streamable.com/8kng
These tears so so so good

>>31948568
Don't play with my emotions OP

>>31948759
Is that Jim fuller

Right after Trump won the election I got an email from my LGS announcing a sale

It feels good to be American

>>31948979
not just safe but we, as pro gun owners, have to push for better. dont just settle for what we have currently, repeal the NFA

>>31948635
I'm curious to what the mount is the sight is fixed to just bought a ak need rails now.

>>31948879
Voluntary Restraint Agreement.
It's the trade agreement that keeps us from getting anything other than the "approved" models like saiga and vepr. Without it, all models would be possible.

>>31949007
Preach!

>>31949017
All models would be possible subject to the same neutering like Saigas and 922ring like SLRs. The VRA isn't the only roadblock.

>>31949045
Well no shit, but at least Russian weaponry would be subject to the same rules as every other country.

>>31948987
No that Kalashnicohn guy... he's pretty cringe

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>HABBENED
>A
>B
>B
>E
>N
>E
>D

>>31949078
All those rpk bakes so tasty

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Also can someone smarter than me explain why this one is so different from the other? They've all got, IIRC, the Molot shield with a star, but it's not wavy like the others

>>31949056
Shoot high though, imagine all those 80's prebans, HKs, Swiss Arms, FNs, etc. no more neutered 922rd shit AKs.

>>31949152
We need to get Trump's son on it.

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>>31949152

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>>31949007
A great change is coming, greater than any change we as firearm owners have seen in decades

I work in a city with a lot of old retired liberals and young FEEL THR BERN type kids and today is going to be great. I will not be able to hide my shit eating grin and I will not be able to hold back laughter at their distraught shock at their beloved candidate losing the presidential election. My country will be free, my rights will be unhampered, and my face will show true joy.

I admittedly still have some resignations about Trump (outside of memes) but Hillary not being in the White House and Dems not having control in the Senate or House is something to truly be joyous about.

>>31949168
Today is the day LIBERTY won.

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This has to be my favorite in the set, trench art and some storage marks. What's the lowest mold number that came on RPKs?

>also still wondering this cause i'm clueless as fuck >>31949130

>>31949185
You spelled "FASCISM" wrong

>>31948568
>I wanna buy an AK at some point in the future, but not sure exactly what to get. It's between
>
>>7.62x39 VEPR
>
>>DAKM4150
>
>>something from arsenal
>
>wat do /k/
>>31948669
why do u want a arsenal lol? why settle for something no more accurate than wasr with shitty paint?

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>>31949130
I'm pretty sure it's just inconsistency in the material used. Just circumstantial. There are some really wacky ones, this one is my personal favorite I've ever come across from Molot, the glass-impregnated Izhmash 45 rounder is definitely the GOAT mag though.

>>31949258
Cry moar, faggot.

>>31949258
>S T I L L throwing around Le Fascist meme

>>31949284
He was shitting up the thread last night, too.
Don't even reply.

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>>31949274
Alright, cool. That was the only one that really concerned me, it just almost looks like a toy next to the other ones.

Also I got one with a really interesting floorplate, it's like an orange/cream polymer instead of metal like all the other ones, you know much about those?

>>31949301
>floorplate

Baseplate

>>31949301
Some of the floorplates have been replaced with commercial ones for whatever reason. May be one of those.

>>31949071
His "RPK-74" build was very cringe.

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So you think SLR107s will come back in 2017 or will it be even longer?

>>31949301
Pics? Someone on theakforum was selling true black RPK-74M 45 rounders with creme colored baseplates and followers. He says they're Molot factory and are from the same molds as the black ones. Dunno what to make of them.

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>>31949396
Hoppes 9 bottle for comparison, it looks a little bit darker in the photo than it really does though. No mfg marks on it or anything like the others

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>>31949258

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>>31949274
Regarding that line across the lower part of your mag where the pattern changes, do you or anyone else know why that is there in so many bakes?

>>31949438
Oh that's not what I was thinking of. That's perfectly normal in a 45 round Bakelite actually.

>>31949461
I'm pretty sure it has to do with how they filled the mold. I even see it on East German bakes.

>>31949438
I've got some plum mags with a baseplate that is the same shape/design as that one, but mine are in that plum color plastic, and have a silver ink stamp of some type on it and a mold number on the bottom.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET APPROVED ON FILES REEEEE

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>>31948590

Same. Magazines and ammo will hopefully be cheap if not cheaper because of the election.

Hope to find a few tanker mags just have them and trade my Wasr for a Vepr to convert it.

>>31949743
Seems like it was a few days for me, but that was a 4 or 5 years ago so it's hard to remember.

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>>31948568
Did somebody say speculation?
I think I've go the king of it lately.

>>31949864
Very pleasant picture

Those tables aren't very stable though

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>>31949879
Yeah, table sucks, but it's just there to rest the bipod on when I shoot.
I usually just lay on the ground, but the grass was soaking wet already.

>>31949913
>>31949879
Down south here, those are some popular ass tables. I at least find them to be sturdy as fuck too, they're awesome

>>31949879
The trick is to make some PVC pipe feet for them that spear into the ground. That keeps them somewhat stable.

>>31949926
I love it because it folds in half and fits in my car trunk.
It does the trick when the grass is soaked or I just feel like sitting on a chair.

>>31949926
Yeah they're lightweight and handy. Super popular in the south it seems

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>>31949258
CTR is realizing the terrible truth about 4chin, you can never leave.

>>31949795
Yeah I've read from a few days to like a month lol.

Shits retarded how only the admin can accept tho

>Sold some mags on the Files
>Go to post office this morning to mail them out
>Super busy like normal
>Lady behind me is a super irate black lady
>Complains the whole time
>I'm next in line
>She tries cutting me
>Guy behind counter tells her to go back because I was first
>She flips out
>I ignore her and get my package all sorted out, paid for and shipped
>She's still chimping out
>As I'm about to leave she starts screaming at me about how I'm white and a racist bigot and Trump is my fault and black lives matter and blah blah blah
>She's still going at it and blocking the exit
>I tell her with a 100% straight face with a calm calm voice "Lady, you can go get fucked"
>She stops and is a little taken aback
>Reach around her, open the door (get on the floor), slip past and get to my car before she starts screaming again
>As I'm leaving be parking lot I see her being escorted out while still chimping out

It was surreal, I've never had anything resembling that ever happen to me. AKfiles made me encounter a true BLM nigress

>>31950424
Good thing a riot didn't occur inside the post office.

>>31950620
One is a chimpout. Two or more in one place are a riot.

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>>31950424
>>31950424
I've never seen the amount of salt emitting from the left in my lifetime. This is truly magical days.

>>31949459
>fat neckbeard
>ignorant liberal
These people make it too easy

>>31950901
It's wonderful

I want to start wearing my MAGA hat in public

>>31950424
The sting of referendum on their violation of the commons of freedom is going to smart for awhile. Glad to be a part of it. MAGA

t.leftylibertarian enough degeneracy

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I'd like to own a converted Saiga again without paying lulzy prices. That'd be neat.

>>31951144
... You'd have to go into public to do that.

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>>31951144
I dunno if that's a good idea, Anon.

>>31951144
Liberals are in Asshurt Jihad mode right now. I'd be packing if you're gonna do that.

>>31950901
I live in VT, you can imagine my vantage point of the utter meltdown that's going on.

>>31951780
Southern VT, I'm guessing?

>>31951780
Same, I'm in Austin. The assravaged College kids are blocking roads today because of Trump.

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Can anyone translate?

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>>31951889
"Made in Egypt"

>>31951889
>The man who carries this rifle subsists on camel semen

>>31951844
Might drive over to Austin today just to bloody up my grillguard.

>>31951843
Central, SoRo.

>>31951422
im so happy i grabbed one of the last batches that made it inside the states.

i cant wait for more to come in, id like some variants.

>>31951889
"The pleasure of being cummed inside"

>>31951889
Durka Durka Muhammad Jihad Durka Durk

>>31950901
They were just as crazy and pissy in 1980, 1984, 1988, and 2000.

There are old hippies out there who are STILL mad at Nixon and bare their gums and growl when they hear the name.

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Need moar 7.62

>>31952466
Came here to post this.

Get out of my head.

>>31948718
This is all I care about

>>31951422
Are you in the PNW anon?

>>31948803
>They already have a civi version of the vss

any vids or proofs? I need to see this

>>31952696
It's nothing to be excited about. It's in some really obscure caliber and it might even be smoothbore. Don't remember.

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>>31952696
Here. I'd post the vid but 4chan thinks it's spam.

>>31952724
I thought it was in several calibers?

>>31952775
pretty sure the civie VSS is 7.62x39, or at least one is

>>31952775
All I know is that I asked a Russian to translate a video of them presenting it at some arms fair and he said it was some strange caliber for legal reasons.

>>31952006
Cool. I'm just over the border in your twin state.

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>>31952832
This.

>>31952833
Here's another video I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VloVJvIWgs&feature=youtu.be&t=30m20s (skip to 30:20) I'm not sure if you're talking about this one. If I remember right, the russians have a weird thing where you have to own a shotgun for X amount of time before you can own other firearms. The weird caliber you're referring to is .366 which is basically a widened 7.62x39 chamber to accommodate shotgun shells. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

What ammo was I suppose to stay away from? I remember it was a certain brand wolf

>>31952887
which caliber? and do you remember the reason to stay away?

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>>31952775
9x39
7.62x39
.366 tkm

>finally talking to dude on fal files about trading rpk mag for the fal mags we talked about a while ago
"oh, i'm not interested in those long mags, i'll see if i can find a dude to trim them down though, i'll let you know"

Fucking ytho

>>31953123
What.

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Well this happend today.

>>31953277
RARE

>install it already

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>>31953277
Yay!

Happy for you brother. Post some pics

>>31953353
Currently at work will later tonight i will
>>31953386
Still need a stock adapter decided to go with the ar15 stock adapter for more options. Hopefully ordering this week.

>>31951928
Guys, is it kosher to put a Maadi grip on not a Maadi? I've got one coming for my SLR because that blue does things to my dick.

>>31953508
do whatever you want. stop caring what the faggots here think.

>>31953508
Nigga its fine, just dont put one on a ras47

Least cucked AK under $750 currently available?

>>31953606
Wait like a month and the market will be flooded.

>>31953559
>>31953583
I've got this plan to put a bunch of "neat" and some functional parts on it.

Maybe a PBS sight too.

>>31953658
fuck that tripfaggot asshole. if you want to put one on a RAS47 then do it. it's your gun, do whatever you want. paint that motherfucker pink and shove it up your ass if that makes you happy.

>>31953687
A ras47 is not worth shoving up your ass.
>fuck you buddy

I was going to panic-buy my first AK but decided to wait. Now that God Emperor Trump is en route to the white house, what should I do? What's good to buy now and what do you guys project the prices to do in the coming months?

>>31953039
B R E H
R
E
H

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where were you

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>>31953996
is that what I think it is?

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>>31954083
Sitting at my PC at 2am, shitposting, holding AK

>>31953649
With what? If people are dropping their century made shit I don't want it, and I doubt import bans are going to be lifted in the next 3 months at least

>>31954096
Beautiful but not mine

>>31954224
It's not like RASs and C39s were the only things people were buying.

https://www.full30.com/video/bd2d47e0ad02f48351cb718beaa1433f

Watch at 50 seconds

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>>31946874

>He fell for the Bulgarian made AK scam

>>31949071
Hes kinda cringe but some of his builds are cool, Vityaz especially

>>31948718
This. I remember reading somewhere they gonna sell VSS to civilians as hunting rifle

>>31953984
Anyone? Is there a buyer's guide somewhere or something?

Any of you guys hunt with yours? I'm picking between 7.62 and 5.45. Only pro I can think is 7.62 for hunting, and I already have somthing for that.

>>31954782
I had no choice but to buy an Arsenal online. How common is the cant with them?

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Will the tws gen 3 fit on the c39v2?

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Picking up my SLR104FR tomorrow

Shooting it this weekend

Trump won, just offered a higher paying job without needing to move

Life is good boys

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>>31954898
More than people think or want to admit, I work at a retailer so Ive seen a lot of them, the paint is also spotty at times.

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>>31954845
5.45 7n6

>>31954671
Are you going to put a law folding stock adapter or something on it?

>>31954782
I don't see anything wrong with it

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My rpk74 mags that came in the other day.

Any news on that civi VSS? Does this mean civi SVD's and AK's will follow? I mean it is molot after all and they are on the ok list, and since Trump won I genuinely do think that the NFA, 922R, and import laws aren't going to be around for too long, it's just a matter of time until some guy puts in a new petition/lawsuit

Does this mean civilian versions of the AK-12 will be available? And the return of cheap 7n6 ammo?

I'm in the market for an AK, but I wouldn't mind holding out.

>>31955079
No just a ar buffer tube and a stock of sorts. I dont need a folding stock.

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>>31955272
Fuck forgot my pic

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>>31955079
Come on zasta, the gaps are supposed to be even on both sides, this 104 is canted to the right

>>31955272
Civi for Russia and it's by Molot Arms not Molot that makes veprs

>>31955288
To bad they killed the innovative AK12, now it's just an AK74m with shit on it

>>31955336
Long as it zeros meh it's a milspec AK (yes they should be cheaper but that happens with no competition)

>>31955382
For 1200 or more its too much cant for a rifle, buyer said he was gonna contact arsenal on it but knowing arsenal non existent CS I doubt it will get fixed.

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>>31955457
>>31955336
Come the fuck on. Are you fucking serious?

It makes literally no difference. NO difference. People will find ANYTHING to complain about. Do you have any idea what it would take to "fix" this non-problem? If Arsenal "fixed" every single little autistic complaint people had about their paint not being the right shade of black or their gas block being canted 0.1 degrees to the left then they would have to charge $2000 a rifle just to cover their warranty expenses. There is fucking nothing wrong with the rifle in that picture. And Arsenal actually has pretty decent customer service. The reason why Arsenal's customer service gets a bad rap is because customers like that call and try and get their non-existent problems fixed and Arsenal tells them that they're not going to waste their time and money on something so fucking pointless. This is so fucking dumb.
>omg stop making excuses for them for 1200 dollurs they should listen to all your bitchy little complaints
No

>>31955382
yes but those that mean it won't be imported or something?

>>31955517
>.2 Arsenal bux has been added to your account

>>31955336
>take hammer
>hit sight block until straight
fixed.

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>>31955517
If shit like this bothers you, then you have no business being into AKs to begin with. That is not the type of gun the AK is. There is not an AK made in the entire world that will satisfy you if you are bothered by something like that. This is what happens when AR15 transplants latch on to the growing AK fad because they saw Travis Haley likes to use an AK sometimes. I support keeping a close eye on the quality of gun manufacturers so that they don't get away with cutting corners. Gun manufacturers that cut corners and ride on their reputation deserve to be put on blast for selling a shitty product so that people will stop patronizing them until they get their shit together. The Arsenal paint issue was significant. Sights that are badly canted is a significant issue. But the RSB being slightly off-center is fucking autism.

>>31955565
>hehehe le r/pol mememe shill meme le shill bux hehe u r shill
Fuck you

>>31955517
>>31955589
Chimps this isn't my rifle so I dont give a shit about it but
I completely agree considering I have to deal with people who buy their first ak and most will complain about stupid shit including:

bolt carrier gets stuck on trigger when let down slowly, (well no shit just rack it back) surplus bolt carrier's piston has too has too much wobble (yes really, and he wouldn't accept the fact that its supposed to be that way) gas tubes too tight, dust cover too tight etc.

All of these including paint (honestly on my rifles I dont give a shit) non severely canted rear/front as well as gas blocks are non issues, but seriously that arsenal was way too canted, it could probably could have been zeroed but it looks like shit (should have took better pics) None of this shit bothers me because I already have 5 AK's (soon to be 6 once i get my romy kit in) Ive shipped and sold a lot of arsenals and other AK's and this was probably the worst Ive seen and most are fine to the eye. This RSB was far from being slightly off-center.

>>31955584
RSBs are a bit hard to move when the pin is already installed and set and most newcomers to AK's would never even attempt to try to do that.

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Is there any hope for repealing the 7n6 ban?

>>31955777
doubt it, but all the k fags think other wise

sup wit the mags desu

>>31954348
You really think its gonna flood to the point that any MAK 90s, Maadis, DDIs and Arsenals would dip below $750? Or any decent kit builds for that matter

>>31955589
>If shit like this bothers you, then you have no business being into AKs to begin with.

>Spend 1200 bucks on rifle
>Manufacturer doesn't even care enough to line up sight post and gas block so it looks good

Caveat emptor

>>31955839
>Manufacturer doesn't even care enough to line up sight post and gas block so it looks good
>so it looks good
>looks good

That's right. Looks literally do not matter as long as it doesn't impede function. It's a rifle made in the same factory that makes the exact same guns for the military. It isnt some highspeedlowdrag AR that needs to have perfect minute details to please hyper-anal American consumers. It's a military rifle. Americans think milspec means super good and the best when in fact it means just that: milspec.

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>friend gets his first gun
>it's a century AK
>I get to keep it while he goes inna military

>>31955825
>WASRs

>>31955813
RusAnon's source still needs to come through. All uh due time

>>31954959
Pls help I'm retarded

>>31957006
>Century made AK
>Railed dust cover
Yes, you are

>>31954959
this should work on any AK at a dust cover, but it's designed to be attached to rail system on gas tube that's likely only compatible with that company's rail.

this dust cover comes off via the hinge in your picture, and may not remain seated without being attached to the corresponding rail system

>>31948805
Could see SVDs though. Personally, the crates of SVT, Tokarev, Mosin, Nagant, Makarov and ammo for all is what I'm interested in.

Of course, I would love a cheap Saiga and more VEPRs too

>>31957139
>yfw prices remain exactly the same on 70-100yr old slavshit because sellers know they can get away with it

the slavshit will flow in, sellers know know that it isnt a guaranteed import and may stop in 4 years again, sell sks for 600 bucks anyway for the next 10 years

>>31955309
>need

>>31955777
Trips compel me to answer: I don't see why there wouldn't be. BATF is the agency that decided a shoestring was a machine gun, then decided it wasn't. They change their minds about stuff all the time--and in January there's gonna be a new sheriff in town.

Give the out-and-out bullshit of the way the "cop killer bullet" law says that it only applies to handgun ammunition, and that it also only applies to handgun ammunition larger than .22 caliber, when there have never been any 5.45mm handguns and the 5.45mm caliber has a bore diameter around 0.214", which is smaller than .22 caliber, I should think all they need is a little nudge, and maybe some idiots made examples of, to get on board.

Or maybe, with both houses of Congress in the hands of responsible adults, maybe we can get rid of the "cop killer bullet" bullshit altogether. And GCA '68 too.

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>>31957266
What ?

>>31957797
I gotta ask, what kind of muzzle device is that on the Daewoo?

I seem to remember gun magazine articles from long, long ago that our friends in Korea were using a flash suppressor/comp device that only had slots on one side to reduce the rifle's tendency to move sideways in full auto, or something like that.

But in the pictures we've seen I can't make out anything at all. It's almost like the barrel just has a step up at the muzzle.

>>31957810
Its a cone faux muzzle device. This was imported after the 94 ban. Im going to remove it, just low on my priorities.

>>31957834
ah. Any thoughts on what you'll replace it with? Do you know what thread pitch it has underneath?

If it's 1/2x28 you have LOTS of choices. The A2 flash suppressor is really a lot better than it has any right to be, given that it was designed by the US government, and is a seven-dollar part at every gun show.

Or there are lots of web pages with reviews of flash suppressors and compensators.

>>31957797
>need

>>31948568
How much will it cost to get my 106CR chopped?
Will a 5.45 brake work?

>>31957898
>How much will it cost to get my 106CR chopped?
Not much.
>Will a 5.45 brake work?
Yes

>>31957886
Same as a ar15 if i recall. I havent decid3d yet, so many options.

>>31957893
Yes need.

>>31957902
Damn that was fast, thanks

>>31957905
>need
SHALL

>>31957898
Trouble with that is finding a gunsmith willing to work on NFA stuff who also has the tools needed to cut and crown a barrel without removing said barrel

>>31957906
I mean, you could probably do it yourself if you wanted to. The difficult part is getting the tax stamp and waiting 6-8+ months

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>>31957912

>>31957911
Thou shall not be a faggot.

>>31957923
>NEED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>31957922
Depends on how good you are. Considering most people and the use of cheap or dull blades, I'd rather not

>>31957912
Kind of new to guns but why? If I have the paperwork why would they be not willing to?
Should I stay local or ship it to a reputable guy?
Any recommended places?
>>31957917
>>31957922
>>31957936
Err, I don't think I should try that

>>31949459
They fall for propaganda harder than an ignorant cracker. Trump uses the same hand motions for anybody's derision.

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>>31957912
an AK barrel?

Make a cat's head with a bore diameter big enough for the receiver to fit into (this includes the trigger guard as it is riveted on), it will probably need to be a little bit long, so get it in a 16"+ 4-jaw chuck and then put a steady-rest on the cat's head 6" or so away from chuck, now the chuck is holding the cat's head, and the cat's head is holding the receiver+trunnions+barrel combo (holding it by the barrel that is).

So you've got it spinning now, you can slip a carbide rod the right diameter into the bore and indicate off of it for the cutting/threading operation.

Might considere putting another steady rest to hold the barrel some ways toward the end.

Next probably use a parting tool to cut it 1/4" away from your crown/thread section, finish to final length by facing, thread it via preferred method, finish crown, spray paint it a dull gray so the owner thinks it's chrome lined on the end.

??profit??

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>>31957933
Just the tip . Dont worry it wont hurt.

>>31951844
I say, send all libtards to commiefornia with a shovel, and make them start digging the san andreas fault deeper

Not necessarily AK related but I'm asking here because there are a few slav gearqueer guys here and /gearqueergeneral/ is too tacticool for me

What is the difference between the different Gorkas? I'm looking to pick one up but I'm not sure which one I should get.

>>31958057
not an expert but i believe there are seperate gorkas for seperate usage

i know for sure there are super heavy cold weather sets, and thin waterpoof sets more to be worn on top of your camo

brand wise i know nothing

If I'm spending the $200+ on tools to build AK's should I just go out and start building kits like crazy?

Where can I buy an Obzor that doesn't have them marked up incredibly high?

>>31958497
was gonna say kalinkaoptics but they removed it from their store apparently

did they just become discontinued or banned for some reason?

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>>31958267
If you spend that much on tools yes, cheapest 47 kits are the Romanian ones on Arms of America (Ive got 2 on the way for me and my brother) so kit one of those and if you built it well and tools dont provide any issues start buying more kits.

>>31958654
Yeah, just gonna bite it now for tools so I can just build it in my garage. Also I like rifles I've built myself vs bought

>>31958747
> Gas block missing lug
> no dimples
> mag not locked in
Europe?
Funky/10

>>31958812
European Saiga

>>31958819
Figured doesnt look bad just goofy.

>>31958812
This Saiga is modded to take AK mags.

Can I expect to see WASR prices drop now that Trump won? I was going to buy one pre-election but prices skyrocketed amidst Hillary/2A/Supreme Court fears.

>>31958847
How is it "modded"? Just courious

>>31958747
So rare people put 762 bakelites on a gun that actually looks ok with it.
>>31958812
also this stuff, they look a lot better with lugs and cleaning rod

>>31958861
Looking like the new administration will be lifting the sanctions, according to an advisor to Putin.

>>31958895
If that's the case I'd just as soon buy a Saiga. Not much more expensive and I'd own my dream AK.

>>31958918
Unless a sudden heap of money drops in my lap, I'm gonna have to wait until I finish school in 2018. Hopefully by that time we'll get the imports, supply increases and the price goes back down to acceptable levels.

>>31958861
Not really, wasrs are more expensive at the moment because they stopped being imported (they may have started getting more in but not sure) as cugir was too busy making rifles for other clients.

>>31957961
90% of machining is holding what you're working on...and 5% trade secret~

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I finally got around to shooting my Maadi today. I had the day off and went up innamountains and shot a few hundred rounds of Golden Tiger.

I don't shoot my 7.62x39 guns nearly as often as I used to and it's a treat occasionally taking one out. In my opinion 7.62x39 has the perfect amount of recoil: enough bump to remind you that you're shooting but not enough to wear you out after an afternoon of shooting. I love the caliber.

Filing a form 1 on my 104ur. Saw a video that said page 1 and page 2 actually need to be on one sheet, double sided or else it will get rejected. Is this true? Why does the ATF make this so difficult? Am I retarded or is this actually more complicated than it should be?

>>31959237
It's not that hard to print front to back. Dunno if it's true or not.

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I finally did it

Couldn't be happier, picked up some mags + ammo cheap as well, all Bulgarian surplus

>>31959262
Only problem is I dont have a printer at home. I printed off two forms at work to fill out and I wont be there the next few days if I actually do need it double sided. Fucking ATF

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What did 7n6 cans of 5.45 sell for before the ban?

Any hope of seeing it lifted?

>>31959269
Very nice

>>31959387
I'd just wait then, no use sending it just to get it rejected

>>31959419
$130 a can or less before sandy hook. I still have some that I bought at that price

>>31959419
The lowest I've ever paid for a sealed can of 7n6 was $89.99

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>>31959438
Was that for the 1080 rds? And thanks, I got the rifle and the mags for $950 from a buddy of mine that runs a shop, couldn't be happier
>>31959447
Man I wish I'd gotten into AKs a while ago

I already want to find plum furniture and a kobra EKP

>>31959465
That rifle and the mags for $950 is quite a bargain

And yes $130 for 1080 rounds, people who have been into 5.45 for lower might remember sub-$100 cans

>>31959557
Where's a good place to find AK optics?
I'm looking for either a PK-01, PK-AS or Kobra if that helps.

Any sense of what a good value is on these?

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>>31959419
>What did 7n6 cans of 5.45 sell for before the ban?
They were getting right up around 20c/r anyway. IMO, it wasn't worth it vs 60gr noncorrosive unless you shot an awful lot.
I'm tempted to sell all mine in exchange for commercial ammo at this point. But I feel like I'll get more for it when it's complete unobtanium in a few years.
>>31959447
That's really good, I barely remember when 7n6 was 9c/r just before I got my ak-74. I think I paid 110 more for my first can, but got all the rest for 120 each.

>>31959628
>Unobtanium in a few years

Why wouldn't domestic manufacturers start making 5.45 then?
It might be more expensive but it'll still be available right?

>>31959628
Looking at a case now at LGS for $265
Thoughts?

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who likes plum?

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>>31959725

>>31949777
>fuckign painters tape
>painters tape in dumb locations
>BHO safety cutout
>homemade BHO safety cutout
>homemade BHO safety cutout with bare metal showing
>tapco slotted brake

just fuck my shit up

What 2 ak's should I purchase that are available in California?

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>>31959648
>Why wouldn't domestic manufacturers start making 5.45 then?
I'm talking about surplus. I'm not worried about commercial 545 ammo being imported.
>>31959696
It's 25 cents/round, I would just order some commercial stuff online instead personally. I'm not a fan of running corrosive ammo just for the sake of it.
If you want some steel core 7n6 for the cool factor, maybe just get a small batch instead of a whole can.
http://gun-deals.com/list/ammo/5.45x39

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>>31959754

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>>31959788

>>31959591
Kalinka, eastwave, but forums are the cheapest

>>31959899
>>31959788
Ooooh

>>31959628
The $90 tins were really cool, a small local shop did a lot of buying and selling surplus and they bought and sold a lot of 7n6. Normally it was around $100-$110ish a tin but I was buddy buddy with the owner and he cut me a deal for buying three crates at $90 a tin. Normally I'd buy a tin or two at a time from him for $100 to $110 a piece. It was only once I bought that much from him for that little

I really, really miss it. Whenever I went shooting i'd just drive 30 minutes to this shop on my way to shooting in the woods and buy a tin or two and just shoot as much as I wanted. Once 7n6 got banned I became very conservative with my 5.45. I used to put somewhere between a tin or two of 7n6 through my rifle every month but now I'm lucky if I shoot 750 rounds of 5.45 a month. Im thankful that it's still available online for decent price but it'll never be the same (unless the GOD EMPEROR wills it) as it was when it was pennies per round.

How do you go about replacing the barrel in a complete AK receiver?

>>31960070
You buy a press, drill press or mill, a chode of copper round bar that is about the barrel diameter, headspace guages (no-go/go/field), and finally you actually do some research and determine if you really want to do this.

>>31960139
I guess I'll sit on my Russian kit to see if Trump will unban Russian barrels for a while then

>>31960156
What year of kit? Anything special? If not I'd go ahead and get a Bulgarian CHF-CL barrel

>>31960203
>>31960156
Also what model, etc of rifle/parts kit

>>31960203
Izhmash 1968 from Rguns

>>31960222
To add on to this, I have a Polish Radom barrel that I bought because I didn't Trump to win

>>31960232
>>31960222
No shit. I'll sell you a Bulgarian CHF-CL barrel that I bought from Kvar eight months ago for less than what I paid for it. It has a few scratches from seeing how hard it is (I tested a file where the handguard retainer lever slot goes ) but aside that it's mint

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My booski

>>31960312
>c39 abortion
>abortion furniture
>wasting a perfectly good can on THAT

>>31960366
It's not like he can't throw the can on something else too.

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Question: Where does one find a shortened AK? As in minimum or near-minimum legal length?
I miss my VZ 58 but AK has a better aftermarket.

>>31960394
I know, it's just like... why spend on the money on a can specifically for AK's and then put it on THAT, even if it's only once for a picture.

>>31960396
Your standard AK's already have the minimum barrel length. The over all length at that point is just a regular rifle length AK from muzzle to the end off the receiver.

>>31960366
Pb and jelly bruh

>>31960366
Also, why so much hate on the century aks?

>>31960438
Hahaha.

>>31960438
>>31960428
Lol

>>31960428
>jelly
>implying I won't be able to get one of those cans soon
>https://deadairsilencers.com/products/wolverine-pbs-1/
It would look good on any non-abortion of an AK.
>>31960438
*farts loudly and abruptly*

>>31960462
I got my Wolverine yesterday. Shooting sunday. No stamp needed.
>Jelly

>>31960479
>No stamp needed.
Aharr

>>31960438
If you drop them on the ground repeatedly, run them over with a truck, dredge a creek with them, fill them with sand, and fire 5,000 rounds through them without cleaning, there's a chance they'll break.
Being able to go through that kind of neglect is basically the only thing AKs have going for them.

>>31960497
Yeah, because doing those things somehow makes the bolt and bolt carrier not poorly casted junk and metallurgically unsound, right?

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>>31960479
>no stamp needed
do you own any doggos?

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>>31960479
>No stamp needed

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>>31960479
keep your dog indoors

like very indoors preferably inside an armored enclosure

>>31960306
What advantage does a Bulgarian CHF-CL have over a Polish CHF-CL

Pretty sure he's implying he's a class III dealer or something

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>>31960479

>>31960517
>>31960532
Class 3 manufacturer homies. XD

>>31960551
It's Bulgarian and not Polish? Idk. What does the profile of the Polish barrel look like? The Bulgarian one is virtually identical to a mid to late 1980's Russian barrel

>>31960625
Why are you trying to sell someone with an AKM kit a 5.45 barrel

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>>31960583
The shop mop.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/597761236

Why?

Any places still selling m92 pap kits? Looks like they're all dried up a long time ago.

>>31960632
Oh fuck, I thought he said
>Izhmash 1988 from Rguns
woops
>>31960551
Nevermind, I'm retarded

>>31960654
Few reasons

That gunbroker seller loves to list things for exorbitant prices. He evidently is very patient, so he waits for rich people with no patience to buy from him. If he leaves the product up long enough someone will eventually come along.

The PLO kits are pretty much the only Russian kits with original barrels in the US

That kit has some history to it. It originally belonged to Palestinian that was probably killed by the Jews. Also, even though the numbers don't match the trunnion, if that's a true PLO kit that hasn't had parts swapped around, then all those parts are original to the rifle when it was being used by the PLO. Nowadays kit guns are cut up and all the parts are bunched together. Parts with matching serial numbers (of ample enough figures) can be guaranteed to belong to one another, but unserialized parts probably came from a different rifle. Parts that have only 3 serial number digits might be mixed up too. This isn't true with the PLO kits though, all the parts were kept together, so the kit you get is exactly the same set of parts that were on the rifle when it was being used by the PLO.

$3000 is still way too much for a PLO AKM kit though.

>>31960508
[citation needed]

>>31960788
>common knowledge needs a citation

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>>31960788
>>31960794
Just because of those Heil Hitler gets here you go

>>31960479
why not buy a purpose built supressor for either 5.56 or 7.62 instead of some garbage overpriced unperperforming universal supressor?

and yes, ofcourse a supressor designed for 5.56 will work for 5.45, ya dingus

>>31960852
There is also the problem of that PBS offering being non user serviceable.

It's welded shut, no way to take it apart.
Super gay.

>>31960898
>Super gay.
No u r

>>31960933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k-q8A0nLFE

>>31960898
it's literally a pbs-1 clone with adapters from what i gather

so a trash tier 3-4 standard baffle suppressor from the 70s designed for 2 service calibers? for $1000? nah i think i'll suck it up on the correctness of it and buy an actual modern 5.56 suppressor if I care about more than it looking cool, assuming it has adapters.

>>31949380
>women losing the right to vote because trump got elected

we are reaching new levels of insanity


In other news, I got a fuckin job because I was getting really paranoid of never obtaining the rest of my gun collection which consists of 3 VEPRs and still waiting to find a cheap m92. With all the shit Shilldog was slinging at Russia I was worried Molot was gonna get sanctioned like Izhmash did. After that I was thinking things like 30rd mags and rifle caliber pistols and SBRs and shit would be on the block.

Instead I quit my panic buy job to go back to focus on school and spent my earnings finally converting this Saiga I overpayed for a while back. So fuckin expensive in total to create this rifle. Got the full dinzag kit and full AKM furn set from ironwood. Eventually I plan to change the gas block, sights, pistol grip, top cover, to true AKM parts, at the same time I'll get an actual lower handguard retainer put on (got the bolt on cuz lazy), grind off the fuckin import mark velcro patch and JB weld it, then refinish the whole baby. Gonna be a really fuckin sexy, exorbitantly costly, almost-AKM.

>>31960970
>it's literally a pbs-1 clone with adapters from what i gather
Where are you seeing that? Because this is the only place I've seen that claim.
By the looks of the article, it's definitely not a direct clone at all. The external look is close, but that's about it.

http://www.recoilweb.com/dead-air-wolverine-pbs-1-gemtech-arsenal-inc-ak-soviet-styling-american-execution-102311.html

>>31960968
What am I watching?

>>31959557
I was in when it was 15cpr. What a time to be alive.

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Want to cop my first AK (pic related), are Century Arms AKs any good? I don't any rattle.

>>31961273
E V E R Y
T H R E A D

>>31961289
Don't you dare meme on me, just answer my fucking question

>>31961273
No, just browse the thread

Is there anything wrong with using bolt cutter/hand press methods to rivet an ak?

Sidenote: can we get a fucking pastebin/sticky so we can avoid people asking about RAS/IO shit

>>31961273
wow these pice of shits really cost $800? VEPR fuckin 700-800.

>>31961312
>can we get a fucking pastebin/sticky so we can avoid people asking about RAS/IO shit
Tried that, it stopped getting posted because it's impossible to gauge the AK market at any given time.
If retards want to buy garbage, you can't stop them.
The only answer to these questions should be "Lurk more".

>>31960852
I have the omega 9k, saxon 7.5 5.56, aac sdn6, wolverine, recce 5, liberty cosmic.. I like the old school feel of the wolverine...
>ya dingus

>>31960898
You don't need to service rifle cans..
The carbon helps dampen sound further. From what I have seen. It's about 140db for 7.62x39
Not a direct clone. Same look. Dead Air tech.

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I wish i had a nice ak, cant even put a mussel break and bayonet on it :(

>>31961312
>Is there anything wrong with using bolt cutter/hand press methods to rivet an ak?

No, I use the toth jaws for all of my builds and I have an ak builder rivet jig.

I think the toth jaws make it easier to start the rivet flush with the receiver, and feeling the bolt cutters seems help me make a good press on the short rivets.

I use the ak builder jig on the rare occasion I need to crush a short rivet more (to clear the mag or barrel) but I could just adjust the jaws tighter and loosen them back up when I start another rivet.

AK builder jig is great for long rivets. If I had to tool up again I would buy just the press and ak builder jig, plus some component plates from robert forbus. The press is simply too useful for pressing the barrel components and setting headspace. I hated every second of doing that with the toth barrel press.

I would only go with a full toth setup if I literally couldn't fit a 12 ton A frame, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

anyone know what mount I should buy for an optic on my opap?

>>31961927
You can't keep posting this without explaining

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>>31961927
>mfw you keep teasing this

>>31961988
>>31961991
it's a fucking an-94

>>31962004
......holly shit no way.....it.....it cant be........

>>31959754
i need a few of these for my krink. Where'd you get em?

>>31962016
yes way

>>31961981
RS Regulate 307 lower, and the upper to match whatever optic you choose.
>Yes it's expensive
>It's pretty much the only readily available option that correctly fits the M21 side rail without modifications.
There are other mounts though.
Give this a read, it might give you a better idea.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186767

>I went with the RS on my OPAP, still waiting on PA to get the optic I want back in stock though.

>>31959591
i got my kobra on kalinkaoptics for ~$330

they dont seem to be selling the AK-mount version anymore or alot fo other optics, maybe theyre going out of busniness. or they have a really shitty website design that completely removes out of stock items from view

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My 7.62 saiga AK.

>>31961273
No RAS47s are not good AKs for the last time.

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My 5.45 Molot Vepr

>>31962151
Actually aesthetically pleasing considering how much of a butchered base rifle that is, but it must be very front heavy with your setup.

>>31962069
thanks I'll check it out also where would I get a correct russian optic or a good quality reproduction of one?

>>31962115
>>31962151
>magpul
>tapco
Ew

>>31962269
If you don't remember, magpul is bombproof

>>31962197
This is the vepr with the RPK reciever, trunions, and barrel. Very well built rifle. Straight sight post. I want to say the stock rifle is 7.8lbs. The ultimak gastube, optic and mizzle add zero weight. It handles very well. This rifle will out live my child.

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>>31959465
yeah, 11 cents a round plus shipping, of course, was a pretty common price for 7N6--pre-Obama.

>>31962269
Tapco?
Midwest hg
Magpul stock
Lantac drakon
Bcm grip
Us palm mag
Tromix charging handle
Alg akt trigger
Aimpoint h1
You talking about the safety or something, kid?

>>31959763
to be totally, completely fair, people like Rob Ski give that particular Tapco muzzle device pretty high marks

it isn't the greatest thing out there but it does a good job of reducing recoil and muzzle rise, without the horrible obnoxious concussion you get from things like the '74 brake or the various great big multi-baffle multi-chamber brakes that are in vogue in certain circles

it even reduces flash a little bit, though obviously not as much as a flash suppressor designed for the specific purpose

I'm wanting to buy my first ak (in 7.62) by Christmas if possible, and for under $1000. Wasrs are running around $760 right now but VEPRs are just about the same price. Unfortunately the 16in barrel versions are all out of stock everywhere. Should I just get the wasr or hope the vepr comes back in stock soon?

>>31962151
On the vepr 5.45 thats a tapco 74 style brake.
Why not a thread adapter to use a real brake.

>>31962458
WASR
The current ones are good

>>31959783
hmm

how about an intermediate-intermediate cartridge? maybe 7.62x39mm stretched a bit, with the shoulder moved forward a little, necked down to 6.5mm.

6.5mm bullets, especially in the 120-145gr range, have excellent velocity retention at long range due to high ballistic coefficient

maybe a super-high-ballistic-coefficient 139gr bullet at around 2550 ft/sec or 139gr at around 2350, either one ought to stay supersonic to nearly half a mile, and also be almost as controllable as 7.62x39 in full auto from an infantry rifle

yes, I know, general purpose infantry rifle cartridges were a 1970s line of speculation

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7.62 Saiga. Long term plan, SBR with a Bulgarian CR block. I need to find a different stock, I like this one but it belongs with an AIMS74 kit.

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>>31962467
I like the look of it. What brake would you use?

>>31961927
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