/akg/ AK General

>>31853681
And for the guy who bitches I won't post this in the OP.

>AK Buyer's Guide ver 1.2

https://ghostbin.com/paste/py877

DDI Milled AK or a WASR-10?
Is the DDI worth the extra $350?

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RARE

Are POSPs ever going to be imported again? I might have to buy one from Canada. Hell, I don't even know if they fall under the sanctions or not. If they do is that even legal to buy it from Canada?

>>31853800
No. WASRs are great for the price. Milled is dumb

>>31853815
Gimme

You going to MSW?

>>31853713
linky no worky

Should I sell my 1PN34? It's cool but I have never shot with it before and I would rather spend the money on ammo or a new gun

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>>31853681
I have some C39V2's... should I hang onto them or sell and use funds toward 3 WASRs or 1.25 SAM7's?
Intended use is to have kids inherit a decade or two from now.

>>31853713
this link doesn't work you fucking idiot

>>31853967
>The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

It's not because the link is wrong friendo.

>>31853955
id go with the sam7

>>31853955
the V2's are alright.
Keep em unless you can do a 1 to 1 switch on WASRs

How am I supposed to fix steel combloc mags that have dings and dents that cause stuck followers? How does one bend the mag back out from the inside?

>>31854114
Hammer and a piece of wood

Quick price check:
A WASR-10 out the door (tax, everything) for $741. Terrible? Acceptable?

>>31854158
If you can't find anything cheaper then do it. It's hard to find new WASRs for 500 or so anymore.

>>31854131
I don't think that helps me bend the mags out from the inside.

>>31854158
Acceptable. Not good.

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i like milled ak's

>>31854158
its fair.

>>31854200
Is that one of the older sam7 underfolders?

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Romanian SAR-3 I picked up for $300 a few weeks ago. Should I go all wood or all poly? Also going to get a press on thread adapter, because a 22mm FSB costs 1/3 of what I paid for the gun

>>31854295
I was wondering if you were going to do anything with the 22mm deal

>>31853728
y u paint dat glocc 40?

>>31854305
Its not a huge priority, but it feels wrong without threads. Not sure what muzzle device I'll throw on afterwards...

What is a fair price to pay for an RPD? Only ones I can find are on gunbroker, $2200 for a wiselite and $2500 for a DSA. Anyone know where the DSA ones are in stock?

Anyone know a fair price for a new 7.62 izhmash polymer slabside?

Thinking about buying a gun in a year or so. Would an AK be a good first gun? Would like to take it to the range and home defense. (Live in Miami so I can't really do much)

>>31854331
Funsies

>>31854365
Around $200 on the US market

>>31854432
Yuh on both accounts. Keep a mag of hollowpoints ready for HD.
FMJ 7.62x39 will fly right through your wall. Also think about a folding stock if you have a cramped home.

>>31854464
I wish I lived in a nice secluded area.

>>31854365
Yes.

>>31854477
>>31854464
Sellier and Bellot softpoints are also good for HD

>>31854464
I'm not super well versed on this stuff but I don't see even hollow point or soft point 7.62x39 being hampered much by anything other than a brick wall

>>31853902
POSP is made by BelOMO in Belarus. That company has been sanction free for something like 10 years now.

It's perfectly legal to buy from Canada. If you're looking at Eastwave, they usually drop-ship, meaning the scope will come from Belarus to you.

>>31854544
Still less penetration than FMJ. HP and SP tends to slow to less lethal levels after it ventilates an invader. It'll still fuck your wall, but its far less likely to kill your neighbors.

>>31854464
So will 98% of Russian "hollowpoint" or "softpoint" ammo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL8aMITCG_0
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6RVuISLJ3o

illustrate the normal behavior of Russian "expanding" bullets in actual gelatin. You might as well be shooting FMJ.

Good defense/antipersonnel bullets have been designed and manufactured in the past but are not currently available in loaded ammunition in this caliber.

The least bad option is commercial brass case, softpoint hunting ammo, IF your rifle feeds it (not all AKs do, having been designed around FMJ ammo). This ammo can be spendy.

I love the AK, I love the 7.62x39mm cartridge, but there are not a lot of good choices in home defense ammo in the caliber.

>>31854582
I roll my own with the Hornady V-Max.
Works great.

>>31854613
Cool. What powder are you using and how much of it?

Are you using new old stock VMAX bullets? I thought Hornady discontinued the .310" 123gr VMAX four or five years ago. I can get Hornady 123gr FMJ in .310" but nothing else, locally.

>>31854114
Any other thoughts on this, friends.

>>31854652
Stick a box end wrench in there flatways and then roll it to pop out the dents

>>31854652
A couple threads ago, various ideas and techniques were offered. You can drill a hole in the opposite side of the mag from the dent and beat the dent out with a punch, through the hole. Or you can put the mag in a vise and reach inside it with a tool that's got a wider end and will only fit in the mag in one particular orientation (specifically recommended for steel AK mags was a 13mm box end wrench). Put it in the mag, push the bulbous end to the dent (so to speak), put a cheater bar through the hole on the other end of the wrench, and twist the wrench a time or two. Pop the dents out from the inside.

>>31854652
Get wood block to fit inside of mag, mallet the outside. Add elbow grease and time until it works.
Maybe use the follower to get the right sized block.
Extra credit: Make wood or plymer sixed block that fits perfectly into mag. Patent and profit.

>>31854526
Good to know

>>31854651
I use 28 grains of 4895.
I use new stock 123gr V-Max, its in stock at Midway and grafs.

I buy in bulk because I also load them up in 7.62x54r for my Mosins. They are a FAST shooting round, very flat. Perfect for thin skinned mid sized game.
I've even tried loading them up in 303 with good results. No keyholeing out to 200 with acceptable accuracy.

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>>31854652
You can buy this ~$600 mandrel.

Or go back a few threads and read
>let's see if they'll still link
>>31814530
>>31815022

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>>31853931
The next one? Probably not but depends on my work schedule next year

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Finally took the lil ones out. Brought some noguns friends too, converted to proguns in ~5 minutes

>>31854665
>>31854667
>>31854678
Awesome; thanks for the ideas. Sorry if I missed a recent conversation on this.

You guys are great. :-*

>>31854339
Looking for this. DSA sells them for $2200 on their website but offer dealer pricing; should I ask my FFL if he is able to get on the dealer pricing and order it for me?

>>31854712
I'm glad to hear the VMAX is still available. I'd heard Hornady discontinued it. I know they switched the SST in for the steel case ammo Hornady sells in 7.62x39, for no reason that I can imagine (the SST is a good bullet, but the things it is good for are not things people generally buy an AK to do).

I would have thought 4895 was a bit slow for 7.62x39 and the small case needed a faster powder, like AA1680 or Reloder 7. Does the "service rifle" powder speed range work well in this caliber?

Do you use a chronograph? Do you know what kind of velocities you're getting?

What cases are you using? I've been looking locally for virgin 7.62x39 brass and the only thing I've found has been Prvi Partizan at 60 cents a case or higher--their loaded ammo is cheaper. Or are you reloading the steel somehow?

>>31854742
That's for the tips, bud. Much appreciated. They're $10 Romys, so I'll probably do the drill-and-punch. I was also thinking of a simple fix with a file.

>>31854820
If its a small enough dent you might as well just drill out the dent instead of drilling hole in other side to punch out the dent. Either way you have a hole in your mag. If its a big dent then just ignore me

>>31854893
Fair point; thanks for the suggestion

>>31854820
>so I'll probably do the drill-and-punch
That's the worst way, and shows that you're a lazy amateur.
Just find a tool or something you have laying around that'll push the dents out and do it right.

I did it with $5 romys, and 25 of them are 100% functional and don't look like a pincushion.

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superior russian engineering brings us new compact optic of type кoллимaтop

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>>31855139
high tech "light dome" for emblazon enemy of
yбить тoчкa

>>31855139
Your picture is too dark to see the collimator sight

>>31854806

I use 4895 because I buy it by the barrel. I shoot an M1 Garand in 3gun and 4895 is the powder that works best for it. Plus it works in all the other rifles I shoot.

Is it ideal for 7.62x39? Nope but it works, cycles the action, and delivers decent performance. I get about 2200fps with my load.

I buy brass cased ammo and reload it. I'm not making match grade ammo. I've never bought virgin brass for the 7.62x39..

>>31855200
Qt hair

Is that sold Aimpoint?

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>>31855233
нeт, picture show concealability technology

here is more light for view

>>31855270
absolutely no connection to american spy optic of type "qwik point". many improvement

(it's a $50 obzor without tritium)
(chin welds are fun)

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>>31855270
Looks like a weaver quik point.

>>31855200
Neat

Is $680 a fair price for a NPAP considering the political pressures on the market? I'm debating getting one before Hillary gets elected and appoints a new SCJ.

>>31855264
ah, cool.

Have you seen the solid brass bullets CNC Warrior is selling? .310", 110gr each or something like that, solid brass flatbase spitzer bullets, cannelured, each individually CNC machined. I am not exactly certain what the purpose is, or if there's something they're supposed to do better than FMJ. Maybe they're supposed to be for target shooting, more consistent because they're made of a homogenous material or something like that.

Also, you shoot a Garand in 3-Gun? You have my respect, good sir.

>>31855431
I shoot an M1 because I'm a hipster. I also use a 1911 and a Winchester 97 shotgun.

>>31855429
I wanted an NPAP or OPAP but they don't have chrome lined or any kind of nitride/fenocite/etc on barrel. Given that a lot of AK ammo is corrosive I thought it best to stay with a treated bore. But I'm not an expert, I only play one on the interwebz.

>>31855429
Fair.
Not good. But fair for the current market.

>>31855429
No, you can easily find a WASR for that price online. Literally the only reason to buy an NPAP over a WASR is if it's significantly cheaper.

>>31855455
Do you know how to cure 7th round stoppage

WASR 10/63 or new 2016 WASR?

>>31855468
From what I understand the chrome lined barrel is primarily to extend barrel life under sustained fully automatic fire. I'd probably be shooting mostly Tula anyways so I'm not too worried about corrosive ammo.

>>31855518

I just updated my spreadsheet and the AVERAGE price for a WASR 10, purchased from an online store with them IN STOCK (no auction sites) and including shipping and a $35 transfer fee, is $791.

>>31855526
If you're buying new then I agree it's not a big deal most of the time.

>>31855515
Few thousand rounds down range from the same '43 M1. Never had that problem. But everyone of those rounds was handloaded for this gun.

>>31854239
id guess DDI underfold because of the stock angle

>>31855531
>$800 is the absolute best you can do on a WASR
WATTBA

>>31855547
I'm shooting proper M1 ammo but it always destroys the 7th round unfortunately

>>31855510
Impact has WASRs that cheap but they never have any in stock. Atlantic has the best prices I've seen. You have any idea where else I should look?

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this is also the "american gorka" i was going for
it's kind of neat that the optic is old enough to have potentially been used in afghanistan. got to test out the PKA-V as well. it's nice, but heavy. the qwik point is all aluminum. bought a second one with a different mount and may try rigging something up to co-witness

>pattern is US Desert Night Camo
>the LBV-88 doesn't work well enough with AK stuff, so I switched to modox rig
>6 mags, hydration, and IFAK; would add a belt if more was required

>>31855393
thx

>>31855589
that's odd. Have you tried downloading the clip and seeing if there is something that the follower does to the second to last round?

>>31855562
The "classic" arsenals have that stock angle too, it's what caught my eye, you don't see underfolders with that angle very often. It's the new SAM7UF guns with the straight stocks and 90° gas blocks which is just a damn shame really.

>>31855599
>>31855531
https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/WASR

>>31855634
Thanks guy. I've heard the newer WASRs are a lot better quality now than the ones that were coming out around 2004. Any truth to that?

>>31855589
The $791 includes shipping, taxes and transfer fee.
Plus it's an average.
For example, Atlantic charges 30 bucks for shipping so they charge 759 as the price, but the spreadsheet counts it as 824, because of the shipping and a transfer fee.

>>31855622
No I have not actually

>>31855668
I mean, still

>>31855663
That's absolutely true.

>>31855729
Thanks again man. Hopefully I'll be posting my new rifle soon.

I'm thinking of buying an Arsenal SLR-104, anything to know ahead of time?

It would be the first AK for me to own but not my first time handling and messing with them. I know everyone says get a 7.62x39 gun first but I really have no interest in the caliber right now.

The buyers guide link still isn't working or I would've looked there. I've heard a lot of people shit talk arsenal but aren't they generally good to go?

>>31855778
Yeah, but I'd suggest that you go for the 106.
5.56 is cheaper AND you can reload it.

>>31855787
I have an AR already. I really want something for muh poison bullet meme.

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>>31855778
Mine is nice, does what it should and I'm happy with what I paid overall. But 5.45 is expensive as fuck to get into, are you ready to pay 30+ per magazine and only buy ammo in couple hundred dollar shipments at a time?

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Karl doesn't fuck around.

>>31855850
Is there anything wrong with wolf when it comes to 5.45? Or silver bear? I mean .23¢ - .26¢ seems reasonable.

>>31855946
Go for silver bear if the price is similar

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Anyone have any experience with the RS BM-1? Clamping to the barrel seems odd.

>>31855946
Silver Bear is good ammo, Wolf is ammo that will /usually/ work

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Picked these up yesterday

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>>31856100
>>31855978
>>31855946
Clarification on my part:

If it's this wolf you're looking at I might put it above Silver Bear. It's Barnaul and it's good shit. I think silver bear is also made by Barnaul. The regular uncoated steel case wolf is always rustomatic shit.

>>31855273
Who makes the jacket?

>>31855943
>Won an SLR-104

Damn. I thought those matches were just for fun.

>>31856224
Some matches have door prizes or prizes for winners.
I won a Ruger 22/45 at an IDPA match a few years back. Door Prize

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here's some boring footage of M10X
that's all the OC for now
>>31856211
don't know who it was contracted to, but it's a US desert night parka. it is original, and they are very affordable.
>>31856139
beautiful

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Has anyone had any experience with the Cugir RH10s that Century is selling?

>$850-ish street price
>basically a WASR dressed up with Magpul furniture
>the one I looked at had an RPK rear sight assembly stuck on an AKM rear sight ramp, so it wouldn't slide all the way back to the battlesight zero hump at the rear
>windage adjustable rear sights are neat but the RPK rear sight has a super narrow, super tiny notch on it
>that rear sight combined with a gas block front sight with a normal size front sight post means the front sight for me filled the entire notch and let no light come through on either side
>what the fuck, Century?
>either put a normal AKM rear sight on it or one of those cheap "AK match front sights" with a skinny post
>A1 flash suppressor has good flash suppression capabilities but if we're going to go with the cheapest possible muzzle device can we please have an A2? Use one that's closed on the bottom so it doesn't kick up dust in the prone position, kthx
>I personally would love to see the barrel cut and an A2 or similarly capable flash suppressor pinned and welded to bring the overall length up to just barely 16" and a tiny fraction
>Magpul AK stuff doesn't give me a boner
>I can see the handguards are functional-looking, but do they have heat shields? or is the serious user gonna have to spray silver spray paint inside them then rig up some kind of homemade heat shields inside them made from aluminum foil?
>grip is usable but it does not give me any tremendous boner or seem to me to give any tremendous advantage over the standard Warsaw Pact pattern AKM grip straight outta 1961
>don't care for the plastic folder
>of course, I also think a metal triangle folder would be the tits, so I'm weird
>still wonder what the gun would cost with AKM style laminated wood front and rear and a random plastic AKM grip, and an A2 FS

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>Random 107CR appears on local armslist
>List price: $2800
But why?

>>31856156
You mean the polycoat stuff, right? I've never seen wolf that wasn't polycoat

Too bad that lacquered stuff is unavailable.

>>31856537
SHILLERY IS A COMIN

>>31856358
Thank you.

>>31856595
>I had plans to SBR it but I no longer have the time or money to complete said project
No shit, nigga must've fell in with loan sharks or something.

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Ive come seeking help akg. I cant figure out what the hell this muzzlebreak is.

>>31856537
fuck that

>buy 107fr even at panic prices- $1300
>buy CR FS/GB for $120
>pay competent builder to install- ~$50
???
>profit!

>>31856662
it's a muzzle brake with one of those big ass sleeves around it
kind of looks like a lantac dragon's front but lantac has their own sleeve (much smaller)

>>31856674
>buy CR FS/GB for $120
Where at? I only found one FS/GB combo on gunbroker, and it was a russian one at just over $350

>>31856662
It appears to be a shitty knockoff Surefire-Warden-like device.

Fuck politics, can we get a thread talking about Music people listen to while shitting the plank?

>>31856674
>buy complete bulgy 104 barrel
>buy bulgy parts kit
>replace important parts with russian ones
>buy proper nodak receiver
>buy 5.5mm sidefolder
>build as best as you can get 104 clone

Are the PSA AKs decent or they just as trashy as most US builds?

>>31856680
They come and go from K-Var all the time. Last they were in stock was a few months ago from what I remember

>>31856703
>build as best as you can get 104 clone
Not exactly.
At that point, I'd rather just source all Russian parts, rather than a bulgy parts kit, get a 74uLLC receiver, and get a polish blank barrel to get turned to the proper profile and drilled for the correct gas port location for the Russian FS/GB.

>>31856679
>>31856687
It seems like something Russian but at this point i dont even know where to start looking. Its like a giant fucking hole saw on the end

>>31856703
Lol. Those Bulgarian 104 barrels are for milled guns.

>>31856714
Made it past the 5000 round test, and PSA has been making improvements as the complaints have come in.

>>31856834
what does IAN's hat read?

>>31856714
>>31856814
Mine works flawlessly so far. Only a few hundred through it though.

>>31856844
Make Everything Terrible Again. It's pretty META.

>>31856844
Make guns cheap again

Bill probobly wants to touch all of those guns, be careful.

>>31856899
>>31856814
Found one on armslist for $600. Good deal?

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>>31856834
10/10
>>31857059
it's probably first gen, so expect a sticky/broken muzzle brake retainer. watch AKOU's video if you haven't already

>>31857059
spunds like a decent deal considering the the market lately
I built mine for just under 500 using the barreled reciever and the kit they sell with the ALG AKT. Had to fit the dust cover and had trouble working the bolt at first. But it test fired just fine. I got a bumpski on it now that Ill try out next range trip

>>31857128
Yeah I saw it. But I'd be saving $100 compared to a new WASR or a NPAP. I asked for a rough round count which you can't really trust, but I'm going to try to get it down to $550. At that price point I don't think it would be a bad deal, especially considering the market right now.

>>31853681
>tfw you just ordered two AIMS74 kits from AOA

>>31857128
>>31857249
did the first gen of PSA AKs suck horribly? shit parts and all? honestly I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole if I wasn't able to confirm it was a gen 2

>>31857339
Is there a way to tell the gen 1 from the gen 2?

>>31856714
I have 600 rounds through mine and no malfunctions so far.
Worth noting that I had to file the mag catch down as it was too long to click with any mags, including the supplied tapco.

>>31857339
I have no idea to be honest. Watched a pretty good review and he didn't have a whole lot of bad remarks. The rifle has a 74 style muzzle brake on it so that issue doesn't seem to be a problem with this particular gun.

>>31853681

I ordered a MI side rail mount for a 30mm tube red dot on a whim today.

Has anyone used one of these before? Are they decent quality?

>>31856553
Wolf used to be lacquered. They stopped using the lacquer, at least mostly, around... I think it was ten years ago.

People were shooting steel cased lacquered Russian ammo AR15s with tight match chambers, and were shocked, SHOCKED that they ended up having to use a steel cleaning rod to drive case after case out of the lacquered-up chamber. They complained about the lacquer, and, since the lacquer costs money anyway, the Russians omitted it.

The 7.62x39mm cartridge is more tapered than 5.56mm and extracts with much less force, and the AK's massive op rod and bolt carrier and huge claw extractor put much more force on cases in the AK's chamber during the primary extraction phase. The AK was designed for steel cases from the ground up. Everything about the design, from the case geometry to the (normally) chrome-lined chambers is to help with reliability running steel case ammo.

AR15s were designed around brass case ammo, and 5.56mm has a much less tapered case. It should not be surprising when people had problems. Even some 5.56mm AKs don't run especially well with Russian steelcase .223 ammo, as it is dirty, underpowered when you compare it to milspec M193 or M855, and did I mention it was loaded in steel cases?

I shoot steel case ammo in guns designed for steel case ammo. I own ARs, too. I don't shoot steel in them.

>>31854158
unfortunately, with the election and Cugir reducing imports to focus on military contracts, it appears that is the going rate

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>>31853681
Page 8?
Awfully quiet tonight, /akg/.

>>31856020
its good I use one on my slr-107 very sturdy doesn't leave any marks keeps it light if you just want a light and use the scope mount for an optic

>>31855299
strange.

I was at a gun show on Saturday and saw what I thought might be a collimator sight.

It looked like the upper half of a Weaver "Qwik Point," complete with transparent orange plastic light tube under the plexiglass dome in front, and looking in the rear one could only see a bright orange dot suspended in space. This was sort of like the old South African Armson "Occluded Eye Gunsight" from 30+ years ago.

It appeared to have clamp mounts to fit an air gun/.22 dovetail. It had no other screws or knobs and no obvious method of adjusting windage or elevation. The only marking on it was "WARSZAWA" on top of the tube.

The seller wanted $20 for it and I was for a brief moment tempted.

So is the Hornady SST not effective WTF. I paid good money for that shit. I watched some youtube videos and it tore that shit up. I wasn't about to use it for target practice, now what?

>>31859398
it just penetrates too much

>>31854441
$200 is what I figured. Thanks

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>>31853713
It appears the link is working again.

http://armsofamerica.com/originalromanianmilitaryaims-74545x39partskitminusbarrelandreceiver.aspx

AIMS-74 kits are up

>>31860114
Fuck. Just bought a shit ton of ammo.. maybe no dream gun for this guy

>>31860387
These will go like the MPi-AKS-74 kits, get em now or pay through the nose later

>>31860114
>>31860387
those things must be selling like mad. I can't even get the page to load.
if it ever does load, I'm betting they'll be sold out.

>>31860459
I got two. I think they'll sit for a few weeks.

>>31860459
>>31860772
Yeah I don't think those kits are DDoSing their website, the EG kits were more widely popular by far and were up for at least a week

>>31860416
There were about 2000 of these available from Rom MoD and I doubt they bought all of them given the $240 asking price.

My guess is that they bought a small number of these to ship with their md 63 kits (which they also overpay for) so they can generate some more traffic for their site with hype.

>>31861064
>Importer anon?
Seems logical.
>Get "rare" kits
>Price them at just above twice what you paid.
>Shill hard in the paint
>???
>Profit
You gonna let those yugo mags go in the next couple weeks?
If Trump wins, you gonna drop them sooner to try and maximize profits before the bottom drops?

>>31861097
I'm going to open a retail website in about a year to do just about that. AKs and other popular soviet designs are so expensive now that there is no longer any room with kits for a middle-man on the U.S. market.

Probably moving those mags within a week after Nov. 8. If Hillary wins, I'll skim 500 or so off the top for you guys here.

>>31861064
How can you overpay for something nobody else has if you can still sell it with a profit margin? They could list them for $750 and they would still all sell eventually. I don't think anybody has ever had these kits before, they will sell eventually as long as they are below $1000.

>>31861180
That's one way to look at it, and you're not wrong.

Those kits have been available for almost a year now and the reason no one else has touched them is mainly that no one wants to "normalize" those prices by purchasing them. The Rom MoD is pretty jewey in that if you validate their asking price with a purchase, they will ask that price for years to come, even if the market changes substantially.

What's with all these AK shops on facebook and instagram showing off all of their Vityaz parts?

>>31861775
they're just trying to be cool kids

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>>31861775
They like to show people their rares

>>31860416
Chimps. Anon with boner for aims 74. Said fuck it and picked up a kit. Credit card hates me

Who SLR106 here?

Do you typically shoot brass or steel case?

Any problems?

>>31862333
I'm sorry I made you be irresponsible anon

I hope that charging handle gets you turnt up

>>31857499
>>31857499

Nobody has a MI side rail??

>>31862511
i have the 1913 version its pretty solid

>>31862511
Heavy compared to other options, but i hear its a solid mount

>>31862508
Already have steel 5.45 mags to righteously match

>>31862626
Noice, you going to build it or send it out ?

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>box of RPK magazine spring, followers, and floorplates just arrived at my door

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speaking of mags, I was at a gun show this weekend and one vendor had 75rd AK drums for $75. They had a transparent plastic back plate and seemed very light, very insubstantial, with thin metal. Has anyone tried these?

I just picked up a Zastava N-Pap brand new on gunbroker for 619 on recommendations from some friends on gun forums I frequent. I couldn't be happier. Shooting it this Sunday but the fit and finish are excellent. Way better then the Wasrs I have handled and about the same price.

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A plum dyed Glock frame would be pretty sweet

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>>31862728
korean mags, stay away

>>31862832
Thanks. They didn't give the impression of being well made.

>>31862632
Send it out for some stuff, than build the rest. Don't have a press anymore

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>>31862989
ah makes sense.
>dong on 74= comfy

NFA registry abolished Jan 2017? Is it a possible?

Where to source f/a carriers and sears?

Is AK's charging handle integrated with bolt carrier?

>>31863158
I wish. Holy fuck I wish. But that's never going to happen bro.

>>31863170
yes

>>31863089
The metal folding stock, wood dong grip, and bakelite upper hg is perfect algamation

Bulgarian steel mags are high quality, yes?

>>31863205
So you're saying he isn't /k/'s guy?

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>>31863252

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>>31863300
Pretty sure I didn't say anything about any guy.

>>31863300
Best case scenario is that our next president doesn't change our gun laws at all, and doesn't appoint any justices that change our gun laws

Gun laws getting repealed or improved is icing on the cake

>>31863326
>74 with Bulgy sidefolder and Romy dong
This is madness!

>>31863329
>Gun laws getting repealed or improved is icing on the cake
Maybe. Maybe not. Donald J. Trump Jr. is a yuge! NFA/Class III enthusiast and collector. You and I may not have his father's ear but I bet he does.

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>>31863407

moar you say ?

>>31863426
Sure!

Say, is that an AKT trigger?

>>31863419
>yuge

I hate that shit.

Hopefully Jr begs daddy to do something about the NFA, but I'm not sure if he can since it was enacted by congress.
Honestly though I don't know how all that shit works.

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>>31863326
Mismatched life ftw

>>31863466
Also nice steel 5.45 mag. Can't wait to fuck aims 74 with some

>>31853955
honestly from what I've read the Russians did tests on milled vs stamped ak's and found stamped to be more durable. sam7 may be the exception since it's 5 ton hot die hammer forged for 3 hours but as it is the stamped ones are ridiculously durable anyway..and there's a range in Los Vegas that says the trunion on the stamped ones start to go out after 80-100 thousand rounds.. and im pretty sure they were welded qnd hammer forged anyway so its a like a 50 dollar part to replace. also honestly all the parts in any milspec (not American made garbage like c39v2 as I own unfortunately and i.o. inc ) should only start to wear at around that at which point all the parts give out and u can just replace the whole gun instead. I bought a sam7 and regret it because the paint is cheap garbage with no park making it useless for when zombie invasion comes and there's no lube but break fluid..unless u want to destroy the gun. all wasr come with parkerization if I understand right. desu milled ak's are a overpriced meme entirely and should be avoided like ar15's

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>>31863419
democrats will stage mass shooting to gain control of the senate and house.

>>31863448
yes sir its great. imo

>>31863461
President can draft and present legislation to congress for them to approve/deny.

More importantly, he can dictate the policy with which government agencies interpret and enforce the law, meaning he can tell ATF to do jack shit and fuck off.

>>31853955
also milled ak's may take longer to get hot but they also stay hot alot longer because of more metal so that's as much as a liability as it is a asset. and I absolutely can't stand the ridiculous weight of a milled ak compared to stamped..

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>>31863466
>those handguards
jelly.
>>31863478
i have 2 right now.

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>>31863527
Do you have to baby yours to get them to fit in the magwell properly too?

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>>31863534
not really in either rifle.

>>31863461
Well, Constitutionally speaking, if Trump wants to do something to change existing laws, he has to work with Congress. He has to find one or more sympathetic lawmakers in both houses of Congress to draft a bill that would, for example, repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968. The lawmaker will introduce it in Congress and it will be discussed in committee and possibly amended, and if the committee finds favorably, brought to the floor for a vote. If it passes in both houses, it may now have been changed significantly, with things added or deleted (Democrats love to use the power of these committees to tack totally unrelated things onto bills, like "it's now a repeal of GCA '68 and also ten gorillion dollars for Planned Parenthood to use to build new abortion clinics and also change the ten-dollar bill to feature the Village People and a gay pride slogan instead of President Hamilton" etc.) Anyway, then a joint House-Senate conference committee works on a compromise version, which goes back to each house again to be voted on, and if it passes in both houses, the President can choose to sign it into law, or not.

The Constitution makes it hard as BALLS to write new laws or change laws. The Democrats get shit done, though, mainly because the GOP doesn't like to do much more than grumble a bit and go along. Even when the GOP holds the Presidency and both houses, they don't get shit done, because they don't want to rock the boat, and because the Democrats, and the press (but this is redundant) do a full court press 24/7/365 to tie up anything they try to do in committee until the next election and the press and the late-night TV comedians would all shit themselves and say that the President wants to kill babbies and cute puppies and blow up the world and eat the last endangered Oregon Spotted Owl, etc., etc., etc.

Why, yes, American politics IS a train wreck, even when it isn't an election year.

>>31863551
Weird, mine will get stuck if I try to push them in farther than a few cm before trying to lock it into place. Was reminded of it really well at the range yesterday

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>>31863576
mag lock ?

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My Intrac import Romy '74. Note upturned charging handle, which is I am told an unusual variation.

The front sight base doesn't have a retaining pin for muzzle devices. I will probably end up either trying to drill it and put in a spring and detent pin myself or just knocking out the pins and putting on a complete AKM type front sight base.

Muzzle device is a long AIMS74 type from CNC Warrior, and is supposedly the correct length and geometry for AIMS74 rifles in current issue. Recoil of the 5.45mm is so minimal that they've supposedly foregone the brake altogether in favor of flash suppression. I am told the Bulgarians also have a slotted muzzle device they generally issue on their service AKs that is likewise designed to be a flash suppressor rather than a brake, though people selling them call them the "Bulgarian Flash Comp." It's not a compensator at all, it's just a long slotted flash suppressor designed with a step down at the front to accept an AK74 bayonet's guard ring.

>>31863584
No, just rocking it into place

>do i look like a commie to you

>>31863616
is that the one you got for 650?
Have you shot it?

>>31863555
So you're saying surplus 7n6 and KC imports is more likely?

>>31863639
Different guy got a '74 for $650.

I have shot it. When I got it, it had what I was told was the original Romy semiauto trigger, which was rough as a cob and had backlash. I had a Tapco single hook trigger installed, which was a great improvement, and had a guy thread the (unthreaded) muzzle for the muzzle device.

It's tremendously fun to shoot. It has almost no recoil. It's like shooting an enormous, loud .22 LR.

It occurs to me now that I should have tried to zero it. I have only been able to shoot it at an indoor range, which means I just put the rear sight on the battlesight setting and ran through 4-5 mags as fast as I could as a function check. Everything went approximately where I put the front sight but I know that's no substitute for proper zeroing.

>>31853815

Nice stolen pic from akfiles.

>>31856156

for whatever reason the barnaul mil spec wolf import is junk, theres nothing wrong with it quality wise, Barnaul is one of the best, but the round is severely underloaded, guys on akfiles are getting 2600-2700fps on the chrono.

>>31863659
maybe. Someone at BATF exceeded his authority with the 7N6 ban, because the 1983 "cop killer bullet law" is specifically written solely about handgun ammunition (someone show me a 5.45x39mm handgun) and only for cartridges larger than .22 caliber. 5.45x39mm has a bore diameter of something like 0.214", groove diameter around 0.220", and is measurably smaller than .22 caliber. Legally it should be exempt. Whenever anyone tries to take BATF to court over this kind of thing, though, their response is basically "fuck you we do what we want" and judges let them get away with it.

I know less about how the "Kalashnikov Concern" import ban was legally implemented. If it's one of Obama's executive orders, his successor can cancel it with the stroke of a pen.

>>31863286

real ones are rare, and will be marked ((10)) or (E)

Your probably referencing the new production commercial bulgarian steel mags, but yes they are fine.

>>31863697

forgot to add only the 5.45 is crap, the 7.62 is loaded hot.

>>31863697
To be fair, they're using a lead-core bullet, not the 5N7. To keep it the same length it's 60 grains, not 53 grains. They'd have to use a much lighter bullet to get the 2950 or so ft/sec the 5N7 was spec'd for.

2650-2700 is about what I'd expect, just as a guess, for roughly the same peak pressure with a bullet that much heavier.

I have a very crude rule of thumb when it comes to estimating safe top velocities for a given bullet weight when we have another known upper limit combination of known bullet weight and muzzle velocity.

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>>31863639
I got mine for $650 on Saturday. After doing a little bit more research, I found an old armslist post saying that the one I have was only imported for one year in 1997, and is built with 100% military parts. Also it appeared to have been imported with the East German furniture on it. Any posts I have found said it was supposed to be one of the nicer quality imports at the time.I don't know how true all this is, but its pretty much all i could find so far.

>>31863711
and it's at it's core an economic ban

>>31863743

If my math is right (probably isn't) energy at the muzzle is 980 something foot pounds, where as 7n6 is 1,081 foot pounds.


Thats like a 15% drop in energy, Tula 5.45 is 60 grains and runs 2800-2900FPS


somebody special ordered this ammo and paid extra for the lacquer and sealant, but they cut cost on the powder charge, the ammo is underloaded.

>>31863808
thats a bummer, I bought 750 without research while the bear was out of stock. Suppose it'll plink the same

>>31863842
Of course it will plink just fine. It will also kill varmints just fine. And I'd wager a doughnut that it would kill an armed intruder just fine too.
Don't let the math about that ammo make you feel bad. Sure it might not be the hottest, fastest round out there, but it will still fuck some shit up.

>>31863808
I guess by averaging the velocity to arrive at the same momentum and the velocity to arrive at the same kinetic energy for a given bullet weight. 2900 ft/sec for a 60gr bullet is hot. The spec for 7N6 is only about 2950. I would expect to get maybe 2675 with a 60gr bullet and only 2400 or so with the 70gr bullet you sometimes see.

Of course, this rule of thumb is just an estimate, intended to be on the conservative side for safety, and does not take into account different powder speeds, etc.

What are the chances of me selling a bulgarian plum handguard and stock on armslist or at a gun show?

>>31863892
ak files would be easier.
Also how much you want for it?

>>31863527
I'm jelly of that plum rpk mag.

I got those handgaurds still wrapped in plastic
I have 2 5.45 steels ad well, don't intend on searching for more

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What did they do that the bolt stayed opened?

>>31863910
I'm not the same guy but if he doesn't want to sell it to you, I have a plum stock that the previous owner cut to fit saigas which I know you just got. As well as russian plum handguards and pistol grip, and I have two us made plum grips too. This is the guy who traded you his plums mags, I still have more plum shit to get rid of lol

>>31864122
I'm no expert but maybe yugo drums had bho too

>>31864122
I.O ak with no buffer

wut
I ordered one of these from Atlantic: atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ddi-ak47-milled-rifle-with-black-poly-furniture-detail.html?Itemid=0
I didn't get it.
They sent me one of these (according to the part number): atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ddi-milled-ak47-detail.html?Itemid=0

And it doesn't have a slanted muzzle brake, but one of the flat ones.
wtf

I don't even know the difference between those two models.

>>31863679
I got it from a Russian

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How difficult would it be to make a stock and grip set for my SAM7 without a jig saw? Is sere some place I can send the materials to that will do it for me? Pic related. It's a 100+ year old piece of Gamble Oak I want to use(and I have much more of it).

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Rare

I bought an Arsenal AK47 type bayonet for my milled AK. It won't come off. Halp.

>>31864494
Nevermind. Spring is just really, really stiff and the button had to be loosened.

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>>31864138
depending on how much you want to sell them for i might be interested.

>>31864530
needs more SKS.

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>>31864540
this is true. i want a nice russian with a black bolt.

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>>31864558
Black bolt means it's been REEEEEfurbished

Although I can't really blame them, they probably adapted the practice after realizing their uncoated steel bolts rust really easy

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>>31864588
ah did not know that. i just liked the way it looked, I had a norinco import at one point but it was a pos. I would not mind one like yours.

>>31864122
Do prop firearms really kick like that?

>>31864737
shooting blanks?

>>31864737
shooting blanks? yeah
especially if it's something like am AKM with a lot of bolt/bcg mass

>>31864530
I could sell it all for 70 shipped. Or some mags in trade. I can post some pics tomorrow if you want to see them

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>>31864866
post the pics and ill think about it. i can always use extra furniture.

Anyone know the difference between generations of milled DDIs? I ordered a newer one and was delivered an older one.

>>31864898
Looks like one used Bulgarian parts, one is all murican

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A more elegant weapon for a more civilized age, amirite?

>>31864122
If you look closely at the end, there is still another round in the mag.

I think it stayed open due to a malfunction and the actor played it cool.

>>31864483
>Circle 10 and Izhmash

Wut? Can someone explain?

>>31865316
love child or chinese fake?

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>>31865316
AK gets made in Russia, sent to Bulgaria and remarked - Circle 10! Many such cases.

Most likely, the Izhmash triangle is a part of the forging die, so however far Russia went to make these parts, the triangle is inevitable.

You see the same thing on "Bulgarian" RPK-74s, they clearly had the Molot shield ground off and were restamped with the circle 10.

What's a good way to degrease surplus steel mags? Should I leave any inside for lubrication?

>>31865395
brake cleaner. Then a LIGHT coating of an oil like LSA on the inside and on the spring.

>>31854187
>stick piece of wood inside magazine, below dent
>hammer the other end

New to /akg/ but im asking for a friend of mine . He has your standard wasr 10 but wants a 30cal version of the 74 brake, what are his options?

>>31865488
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/454837/tapco-ak-74-style-muzzle-brake-m14x10-lh-thread-ak-47-ak-74-steel-blue

Whats best cheap red dot for 7.62?
Considering pk-01

>>31865488
>>31865508
DON'T FUCKING BUY THIS, IT'S A TROLL. Go to the kvar website and order one that isn't shit. The crapco one one literally does nothing for recoil mitigation.

Only today, when a tragic fate has torn several million of our kinfolk.

Hillary Clinton is the True supporter of the KKK!

>>31865578
????

>>31865563
Thank you, I suggested surplus as well since tapco brand is well...tapco

But all the real brakes are 24x1.5, would I need to replace the fsb so he has those threads?

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Oh right, I haven't posted a pic of the actual rifle yet. I finally jumped on the AK train.
Hopefully Atlantic will send me the right fucking muzzle brake, though.

>>31865706
i know how u feel i ordered a $50 prong brake from krebs and they sent me a bulgarian 4 peice ~$90

>>31865653
It's the barrel that's threaded. The fsb has nothing to do with that. His only option I guess is to invest in a higher-end AK with 24x1.5 threads.

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>>31863497
>tfw Spivey says the ak74 build I payed for in April won't be done for another month

>>31865795
I hate you. They literally just gave me a barrel nut.

>>31865970
Any time estimate a gunsmith gives you, I've learned to multiply it by 5

>>31866015
Fucking This

>>31866015
>I've learned to multiply it by 5
At least. My 2-3 week job turned into 6 months

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>>31866015
>gunsmith tells me it'll take about 5 days to cut and re-crown/thread my barrel and give the rifle a new cerakote finish
>still underway after 20 days

>>31853681
If I buy a ak74 type rifle, how easy is it to convert to full auto when shit hits the fan?

>>31866070
learn to bumpfire (stock or not)

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>>31866101
>bumpfire

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>>31864276
Old rifle: accepts the old Type 1 AK bayonets only due to having been made with that type bayonet lug, see attached image

US-made furniture from K-Var

Parts source not mentioned in article

New rifle:

article does not mention this but photo shows same type of early bayonet lug

Made from Bulgarian parts kits

Furniture source not mentioned in article

I will guess, just based on this, that these are two different batches of milled rifles, maybe the prior batch was built on East German or Polish parts kits or something and the new one is Bulgarian? Contact DDI and ask them, maybe?

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>>31854747
why'd they have to sell out of RU tickets so soon.

>>31865395
Boiling water, dishwashing liquid, old toothbrush.

In my opinion any kind of lubricant or foreign matter left inside a magazine is likely to eventually make it inside the chamber on the side or base of a cartridge, or worse. Oils and greases can cause primers not to work and make ammo into duds. I would leave the mag absolutely dry once cleaned.

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>>31866070
just get a light single-stage trigger like an AKT and ride the reset. you will accidentally learn to bump with little to no difficulty. bipod makes it easier

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>>31866144
>Contact DDI and ask them, maybe?
I tried earlier today. I have a feeling the dude who watches facebook is not their top PR guy.

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>>31864476
You basically need a drill press, planner, scroll saw or band saw, wood working chisels, and basic little shit.

>>31866304
how did the folding wood stock work out for you? i didnt keep up with that

>>31865395
Cheap aluminum pan for turkeys (as a tray), little bit of gasoline and some blue shop towels.
Do it outside, unless you're an abbo.
Lightly oil after.

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FIME VEPR FM-AK47-11 looks bad ass. 1.6mm receiver, heavy chrome lined hammer forged barrel, etc. Only downsides I see are no lug or cleaning rod but I can get over it.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/fm-ak47-11-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>31864476
>Is there some place I can send the materials to that will do it for me?
Ironwood Designs can make sets with wood sent to them.

>>31864483
Always wanted one of those kits. Fuck.

>>31866336
handguard is fugly

>>31866371
Handguards are easily changed, and considering many AK furniture looks like it came straight out of an ass, I'll take the black polymer over many alternatives. This rifle seems to have it where it counts.

>>31853955
Wasr and a sam

>tfw the golden age to buy an AK has passed
>no more $299 unconverted saigas
I'll just stick with being an ARfag I guess.

>>31866461
The lower handguard is not compatible with regular AK stuff, it's RPK specific

>>31854365
I can get one for you from Russia for 15 bucks. Here it's ten times that

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>>31866314
2 tries, first one on a Bulgarian surplus which didn't work because it cut into the lightening cuts. Second try was from scratch, tried using the same mounting system the ak100 stock uses but the wood doesn't hold up to the stress. I'll give it a third go here once classes settle down.

>>31866478
Dang you're right. Though still looks better than half of the milsurp furniture that looks like Obama just wiped Feinstein's butthole with it.

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The wait begins for aims 74 kit, barrel and receiver to put these mags into. Fuck

>>31866540
Those are some nice romainian mags

Was in a pawn shop today and saw a used SAR-1 with dark wood furniture in good condition for $700, how is this deals wise?

>>31866560
Thanks. They were in Unissued condition before I started using them. Fuck it I buy my shit to use

>>31866336
It's actually a 1.5mm thick stamped receiver for your information

>>31853728
lol nice airsoft guns, dude

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>>31866587
Meh i use all my mags except one rpk bake for reasons.

Anybody know where I can get H&K style handguards for my saiga?

Does anybody here have experience with yugo m76 DMRs?

>>31866569
Six months ago it would have been ridiculous price gouging and we'd have told you to point at the counter guy and laugh, do a 360 and tactically moonwalk out of the store.

Now, though? If you want an AK... bear in mind the old ones with those "SAR-1" markings very frequently had cockeyed sights, gas tubes, and rear sight bases. Check carefully, if an AK is what you want right now.

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>>31866672
forgot pic ;-; they're beautiful

>>31866666
Damn you have control. I've used all my rpk bakes that were mint with perfect ink stamps

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>>31866702
Shit, man got to protecr my paint
> also dem quads

>>31866672
Looks like something you'd need to custom fit

>>31866587
Those are Romanian? They looked Polish to me. What's the difference?

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>>31863326
muh nigga