/akg/ AK General

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>>31797346
SHARKFIN AK BEST AK

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>>31797346
Lest go ahead and get this out of the way. If anyone asks, just link them here.

https://ghostbin.com/paste/ox8pu

>>31797369
I fucking love shark fins, but that one's a little small.

>>31797393
Was the only one I could find with decent looking wood.

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Ive got four more true blacks coming in from Russia and four more true blacks coming in from someone stateside

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>>31797369
Dong/fin plus Bakelite looks really good

Why did the russians make the magazines so fluroscent orange anyway, doesn't that kinda negate camo?

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>>31797409

>>31797514
cuz its baller af

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Just got my wasr10
Only paid 400

>>31797713
LGS?

>>31797746
Nope

>>31797771
Spill them beans. Looking for one.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283890

Exciting

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Just redid my WASR in DC-Parker. Really need a 5.45

>>31797774
Friend decided he wanted an ar15 so he let me pick it up cheap, he threw in 5 30 round mags and a new muzzle break and 500 rounds

>>31797787
SHEEET

>>31797370
please tell me where I can get a $500-$600 WASR.

>>31797713
Here
>>31797788
Friend is trading me the wood furniture for the polimer off of his ak hes getting in acouple weeks

(I posted the question below in the last thread and got one answer that was basically "I think so". [thanks for the answer, btw]
Hoping for an answer from someone who is sure, one way or the other.)

Do all russian plum and bakelite grips have mold numbers on them?
Asking because I bought some '''Rusian'''' plum and bakelite grips and they have no mold numbers on them. Starting to think they might be from some other country.

>>31797816
Off >>31797792's friend.
Did you read the note at the top of the guide

>>31797849
i thought russian grips had a 1/2 or 2/1 marking on them

http://www.russiansurplus.net/product_p/izzy-polyamide-grips.htm

>>31797901
>Off >>31797792's friend.

We should all call his friend and ask how many more WASR's he has for $400.
And yes I read the note, but that $500 level is just ridiculously low for the current market. You'd be damn lucky to find one for under $700 today. And considering that guide was just made a few days ago, it's even more ridiculous.

>>31797911

not only those numbers. I have a russian grip with 6/1 on it.
not sure if ALL russian grips have numbers on them though.

>>31797920
The note reads that prices are subjective, meaning they may or may not be accurate and in this case, they aren't. The price doesn't mean anything in the guide, it serves to separate AMD63s from DDIs. If it really triggers you, I can make a few adjustments.

>>31797819
>niiiice.

>>31797849
I gave the previous answer. Essentially yes, all Russian bake/poly grips will have mold numbers. I've never seen any without, but I wouldn't be shocked if they exist.

However Romanian grips do not have mold numbers.

So with those two pieces of information, I could say with high certainty your grips are not Russian.

>>31797974
>If it really triggers you, I can make a few adjustments.

thanks but I don't want to be 'that guy'. i'll stfu about it and not mention it again.

Can someone link me the pastabin guide, i cant find it because im absolutely retarded

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>>31798021
>>31797370

>>31798038
Told u im an absolute retard

Alright my last post on the subject. I need an AK. Requirements:
>wood furniture
>7.62x39 cal
>sub-$1,000 pricetag
>optional: replaceable iron sights, trigger mods, bayonet lug, optic mounting rail, replaceable wood furniture

>>31797849
Also is the checkering raised or sunk? Color matching other grips? With a little googling and researching you can figure this out..

>>31798044
See: >>31797370

>>31797346
Why did countries, like Poland, Romania, and others call their AKs submachine guns?

>>31798240
because they armed the normal infantry with AKs for high volumes of fire and had DMR role PSL/Dragunov for distance (insert PKM somewhere)

How much does it cost to get your barrel threaded?

And once you add something do you have to loctite it or just hand tighten it? I wanna have the option to put different stuff on there.

>>31798240
Sometimes languages don't discern a difference between different types of firearms, so they categorize by role and original role of the subgun was for "assault".

>>31798280
>How much does it cost to get your barrel threaded?
ask your local gunsmith
>And once you add something do you have to loctite it or just hand tighten it?
no

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https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mikhail-kalashnikov-inventor-ak-47-apologises-3018198.amp?client=ms-android-att-us

Is he guilty akg?

>>31798495
should Henry ford feel guilty about the people that were run over by his vehicles? No.

>>31798495
Don't be silly.

He was just taking extra precautions to make sure he got into heaven.

>>31798495
It's almost that time of year again

>>31798495
Article title is incredibly misleading. Last part of the article is really the only one with substance

>Kalashnikov refused to accept responsibility for the many people killed by his weapon, blaming the policies of other countries that acquired it.

>He said in 2008 :“It is painful for me to see when criminal elements of all kinds fire from my weapon.”

>A spokesman for the Patriach told Izvestia:“The Church has a very definite position: when weapons serve to protect the Fatherland, the Church supports both its creators and the soldiers who use it,” Mr Volkov was quoted as saying.

>“He designed this rifle to defend his country, not so terrorists could use it in Saudi Arabia.”

Basically, fuck terrorists and Saudis.

>>31798240
Because the AK was designed to be most effective with submachine gun tactics.

Even though it's an assault rifle, it's more submachine gun that rifle.

>>31798495
I'm sure he grapples with effects of his invention. Not so much the steel and rivets, or the design itself, but the way the Soviets conceptualized war, the AK being the most widespread and recognizable symbol of. It's difficult for for us to absorb that concept as younger Americans.

I enjoy reading about it though and learning. Only thing I can equate it to is like the business culture that came out of US universities, except in this case it was Leningrad.

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>>31798567
In fact the East Germans dubbed the AK a "maschinenpistole", a term typically reserved for submachine guns.

>>31798673
Apparently, in some American testing it was referred to as basically a submachinegun too.

can't find the link

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https://www.apexgunparts.com/polish-tantal-ak74-30rd-magazine-polymer-black-5-45x39.html

Is there a better deal than this for milsurp 5.45 mags, aside from the group buy?

Okay guys, I came into the firearm stuff kind of late in the game and as it stands now my AKM has seven loaded mags total and then another spare 580 spare rounds in an ammo can.

I'll have roughly $400-500 to spend before the election. Should I grab more ammunition or more steel magazines? I have no intention of reselling, this is just to stock up what I can, while I can.

>>31798567
In a nutshell:
The US (and therefore the West) developed the Assault Rifle concept as a way to make the Rifle more controllable and effective (in both full and semi auto)

The Russians (and the whole Com-Bloc) approached the Assault Rifle rifle concept as a way to make the Submachine Gun longer ranged and more effective.

They both got to the middle, but from different starting points.

>>31798709
Half and half. Pick up 1k of Golden Tiger and a dozen of those Polish steel mags and you'll be all set. That should run you about $500.

>>31798735

Sounds like a plan. Thanks.

So ive seen people put standard ak handgaurds on amds, but has anyone tried the opposite? Id really like to get one for my yugo

>>31799057
Yugos dont use standard handguards. AMD would work on regular AKs tho

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>>31797346

https://twitter.com/vpkivimaki/status/790942147562307584

>>31798689
you play with you safety to fucking much.

how was milsimwest?

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>>31798489
>>31798689
these shitty webms helped me decide to go ahead and filter you. I had been kicking around the idea for a while, but this sealed the deal. so long faggot.

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>>31797369
Disgusting.

>>31799244
You of all people calling someone's ak disgusting.

>>31799087
Thanks, but how do they differ?

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>>31799166
I realized that after watching my footage, probably comes from normally shooting at a range with safety nazis.

It was completely awesome other then messing up my arm the first day, planning on going to more.

>>31799189
Cool story bro

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Over priced Space Dildo AK enroute...

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>>31799189
>Filtering Zasta
Shiggy diggy doo

>>31799369
>jesse james
>firearms

oh brother. when did that turbofaggot get into gun making?

>>31797346
>OP still doesn't include the newfag guides because he has crippling autism

>>31799323
how/d u rig up that sling to the underfolder, i want to do that with mine

>>31799244
t. morbidly obese Jew

You look like Dr8co with a jewfro, go away.

>>31798025
For when you need to snipe across the country, lol.

What is a more durable, more reliable mag: bakelite or ((10))? I noticed they are about the same price right now.

>>31799452
Not sure if you're joking, so I'll just tell you: that's a night vision scope.

>>31799244
Shut up, Ukie.

>>31799476
Both will work great but in he long run (10) will be more durable because it's made from modern polymer

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>>31799258
Sure showed me your sweet ass WASR, bro.

>>31799484
Thanks for reminding me that I need to take /akg/ pics with my Azov patches :^

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how do you guys off set the weight imbalance on your 7.62 Aks? I have a poly folder arsenal with a rail and flashlight mounted and i can already feel the weight going way up front. Would mounting a 1-6x scope help this at all?
So far i've been doing pushups and bought a couple dumbells and been working out my arms much more. I dont have problem lifting the thing anymore but the balance still bothers me a bit

>>31798382

No you don't have to loctite it or no you can't hand tighten it?

>>31799387
Dude, I kinda feel honored

>>31799434
Attach it like normal but attach the metal hook to the rear

>>31799580
personally I tie helium balloons to the barrel.

>>31799649

Correct.

>>31799580
Just accept AKs aren't gonna have perfect balance unless you do some dumb shit like put ballast on the stock or something.

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On rob ski's page today

>>31799580
Actually, having a center of mass as forward as possible will help stabilize the gun.

>>31799414
Couple of shot shows ago. You should see his gucci AR's and 1911s, you'd think a Noveske is a good deal.

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>tfw trying to decide whether to purchase Zenitco shit for my 7.62 AK or finally break down and buy a Vepr 12 before we get President Clitoris
Hate to bring up politics and panic buying and all that, but the clock is ticking here.

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>>31799687
That you got filtered lol?

>>31799580
>CR/100
>Slav optic w/ integral mount
Feels good man

>>31799484
I'm just picking at you fampai, since it's just such a long optic lol.

>>31799649
You don't have to loctite it. The plunger on the front sight base will hold it on, like standard muzzle devices

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>>31800015
>want to buy my zenit dustcover and aimpoint
>also have an ar with no upper
>ak food is running dangerously low again
Just kill me already

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Is this cleaning Rod mount on the RPK necessary? I'm planning on cutting it off for reasons and I want to make sure the cleaning rod won't lose tension and allow the bipod to swing everywhere if i do cut it off

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>>31800500
Anyone? Would like to know. For reasons. Why does this exist?

>>31800597
For a cleaning rod, duh

>>31800500
>I'm planning on cutting it off for reasons

State them now.
It just seems like a retarded thing to do. How could cutting that off be any sort of improvement?

>>31800796
Yes but will removing it effect the gun in any negative way? I don't want to cut it and have the bipod flailing around forever

>>31800811
I have a vehicle mounted pintle for it but the cleaning rod mount gets in the way and prevents me from clamping the barrel into the pintle

>>31800844
Can you relocate the gudgeon?

>>31799956
>yfw you will never drink to the life and memory of the serb soldier who haunts your rifle
Feels bad man

>>31800866
Are you talking about the cleaning rod mount? I mean I could bring it back, but there is a small indented ring in the barrel where it goes.

I might try to pound the pin out and rotate it away to see if it adversely effects the cleaning rod/bipod

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Just got my new ak on the right...what cha think guys?

>>31800909
No. The gudgeon is what the pintle goes into. How do you NOT know this? I thought you were some sort of pintle expert.

>>31800927
I know. It didn't make sense because the grudgeon would be on the vehicle. This pintle just clamps to the barrel.

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>>31800878
i would buy that rifle.
>>31800920
5.56 aks are dumb.

>>31800819
If it ain't broke...

>>31800975
shitty water mark fuck

>>31800978
It's not broken but I'm trying to attach something to it and that mount is in the way. The only way to attach my pintle is to either remove the bipod or remove the cleaning rod mount

>>31800975
shitty water mark fuck and i forgot my trip

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This is how it mounts

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>>31801183
The cleaning rod mount makes the bottom sit too low and it can't clamp over the top of the barrel.

>>31800975
>5.56 aks are dumb

Congrats on showing even more of your retardation.

>>31800975
dude just fucking download ffmpeg (command line program) and run it with these commands (save in .bat file in "bin" directory):

ffmpeg -i ffmpeg.mp4 -ss 00:19:43 -to 00:19:48 -c:v libvpx -crf 30 -b:v 14294k -vf scale=320:-1 -an output.webm
pause

where ffmpeg.mp4 is the input video file, 00:19:43 is start time, 00:19:48 is end time, the rest is relatively resilient to fucking up.

should generate an output.webm in same directory (the -an tag means "Audio No" for 4chan compatibility)

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>>31800975
no ur dumb

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>>31800975
Good thing that's not even an AK genius.

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>>31801213
>>31801224
>>31801234
but i have a grand time trolling :)
>mfw i was shooting a 5.56 ak this morning

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>>31801234
yeah it is stupid, just like this one.

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>>31801192
what is that? are you making some sort of Mad Max vehicle? do you know something we should know about the near future? oh fuck, it's hillary isn't it?

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>>31801284
actually things are looking pretty good for Trump today.

Trump up in some of the early voting in battleground states, the Dem party also made an effort to convince people to vote early for them.

>>31801183
>>31801192
I would just cut the clamp a little shorter, if you make it a close fit between the fsb and cleaning rod thing it'd be really solid

>>31801192
If it was me, I'd use a dremel and cut a hole in the clamp on thing where the cleaning rod mount is, so it would just stick through the clamp on thing.

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>>31801358
>>31801364
I thought of both of those. I don't want to cut the mount because RPD *eventually* and that heavy fuck will need the whole mount. I also considered cutting a hole in the bottom of the clamp, that's probably the best option but I would rather use a drill press for that, which I currently lack.

>>31801284
:^)

>>31801448
that pic doesn't tell me much. will you be able to reach it from a seat? shoot on the move? will you give us a warning like "some of you guys are cool, so don't go to ________ tomorrow" before you shoot the place up?

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>>31801480
If you don't know what it is yet, you're not a cool guy

Welp, I just paid $32/ea for 7.62 bakes straight from RU. Oops.

>>31801615
how many?

>>31801638
Just 6.

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>>31801684
thats not too bad, depending on shipping. Should have just went on ak files tho. Good news you will soon own 6 bakelite magazines.

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>>31801615
>ordered 11 AK74 mags from RU for $25 apiece

Feels good 2 b gangster

>>31801721
It appears to be the final bill, so I think includes shipping. I know I could have gotten a better price, but I didn't know what the total would be until I got the bill. Weird.

Still, like you said, I got some fresh bakes.

>>31801736
I'd like to know how you did that.

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>>31801794
just gotta know the right ruskies

>>31800975
>calling something dumb while posting a webm with a big retarded watermark on it because you can't into ffmpeg

>>31801863
>>31801794
I don't know any ruskies and I got AK74 and 47 mags for $25 each. group buy ftw.

>>31801874
Yep, I'll be in on that next time.

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>>31801874
I used to get them for around $12 :^)

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>>31801868
i reserve the right to call anything i like dumb. Also experimenting.

>>31801917
Why would you call something that you like dumb? :0

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Got my SAR-2 today, whoever owned it before did not clean it well or often. Regardless i spent an hour or two cleaning it up, i slapped a Polish bakelite grip on it and a surplus gas tube cover, took it out and shot it, it feels so good to be an AK owner again.

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>>31801977
Because i see most 5.56 aks as a ak74s dopey cousin. I like them and have fun shooting them but they can be just dumb somtimes. IMO

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>>31800975
>5.56 ak's are dumb
>probably owns an AR and will argue the ballistic superiority of the 5.56 round over the 5.45 or 7.62x39
>somehow this round is so good it can't be used in a more simple and robust platform

Why do people have this much cognitive dissonance in the year of our Lord 2016?

Anybody got an extensive guide on zeroing for 7.62?

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Also, to confirm, Saiga .223 RPK mags work very well in Norinco 5.56 rifles.

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>>31801973
that fuckin norinco tho... so nice

>>31802017
>Put sights on target
>Shoot bullet
>Adjust sights as needed

>>31799496
Even when wasrs were $295 I never picked one up. Spent the extra couple hundred and got bulgarian

>>31802004
Just ignore the tripfag. He's retarded.

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>>31802021

How much you guys paying for these now? $100?

MFW I bought these when they were about $300.

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>>31802004
#all calibers matter

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>>31802077
I payed $110 shipped for that unsure if it would feed right. I should have bought the other the guy was selling too.

>>31802098
b..but..anon, your missing the best caliber.

>>31801999
I like you, bud, but that's just silly. Given the popularity of 5.56 and the comparative scarcity of 5.45, I'd love a 5.56 AK.

>>31802124
Which one did I miss? I can go back to the safe

>>31802098
i dont see any 8mm?
:)

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>>31802023
Yeah, but your Saiga looks better now though. I need to step up my AK game and get a C39V1 so I can stunt all over you.

>>31802017
What do you mean, "extensive"? They're fucking leaf sights. Zero them like you'd zero anything else.

>>31802141
>tfw no 5.45

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>>31802156
i heard good things, tho those ras 47s are looking real nice.

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>>31802156
But what your really need is a firearms that lets you know the importance of reading a safety manual.

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>>31801999
I think the .308 is probably the most least desirable AK due to mag availability and cost and the fact that it's not as accurate as an FAL or PTR-91. By comparison it makes 5.56 mags not all that big of a deal.

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>>31802116
Is that your girl? What kind of dirty Asian is she Filipina?

Also, what rail is on this AMD?

>>31802189

Hey daewoo guy, off topic, but would you know how to fix a loose K1A1 hand guard?

>>31801999
Your stupidity astounds me.

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>>31802189
Oh but I do.

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>>31802152
Dont...don't ask

Guys I'm going to sell my AKs to buy ARs because I think they are superior now. But, my question is do I sell my AKs now, in november, or after queen hillary is coronated in Feb?

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>>31802204
It's a Vietnamese and an SLR-106 with factory rail

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>>31802245
>Guys I'm going to sell my AKs to buy ARs because I finally came out of the closet as a flaming homosexual

FTFY

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>>31802162
But one of those was......and here's the other 5.45

>>31802244
I think they may have lost a little bit in translation.
But the importance of responsible personal tackles has been conveyed so no worries.

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>>31802244
dear god...............
nice m48
>>31802219
unfortunately no on the dr200 its just screws on im not familiar with the k1a1
>>31802191
agreed.

>>31802245
Whatcha got?

>>31802285
You guys are going to hate me but I think Bakelite mags look bad, not tapco levels of bad, but just not good.
I prefer the look of metal mags, with that sexy ridge down the back and everything.

>>31802286
Century WASR and a Polish Tantal built by atlantic.

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>>31802245
>selling guns

WTF is wrong with you? AKs are better at different things.

>>31802286
This. I might be a buyer, anon.

>>31802438
$575 for the tantal right now

>>31802438
lel, nvm. sell em

>>31802466
>tfw selling my M92 to purchase an RPD

stupid little yugo shit anyways

>>31802466
>AKs are better at different things.
Wrong.
>less accurate
>less compatibility- many different standards by manufacturer
>Can't rapidly switch caliber
>Most barrels do not have concentric threading for silencers
>smaller aftermarket
>expensive (now)
>higher kick
>easily penetrates drywall without much deflection.
>ammo less common in United States
need I go on?

>>31802517
nope, ak owners btfo suicide watch

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>>31802517
>>31802528
>we can't go one thread without /arg/ kids coming in and shitting it up

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>>31802517
>easily penetrates drywall without much deflection.
thats a bad thing?
kek

>>31802496
The "carbine"?
>Selling guns to buy guns
I never understood this concept.
Just save your pennies, it's not like you're going to get enough from that M92 to get the RPD.
>But then again, it did take you forever to get some plum for that RPK.

>>31802517
>higher kick
weak

>>31802545
For home defense it is; and we already mentioned that the AK is less accurate than ARs, so at range the AK is still beat, even with the extra power. So in what way is it a good thing? Go ahead and try to spin it.

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>>31802517
generally aks dont need to change calibers rapidly, as ours do a sufficient job, unlike ars...

>>31802517
Kek sell them now, poorfag tier rifles anyhow

>>31802544
Goes for any thread on /k/

>>31802560
>AK is less accurate than ARs

Ah yes, the 'every base model AR15 is a sub-MOA gun' meme.

>>31802553
Great argument. Are you going to pretend that its easier to take rapid, precise shots with a larger kick? What are you, the terminator?

>>31802566
Wrong, 7.62 is shit for home defense, 5.45 is much better. But if you want to shoot out to 400 yards 7.62 would be better. (not that you could even hit a target with an AK at that distance).

>>31802574
>not that you could even hit a target with an AK at that distance

You're gonna have to be more subtle than this.

>>31802548
I'm selling a couple guns. Essentially trading a few guns I rarely shoot to buy a really fuckin cool gun. Less guns to haul around when I move, less calibers to be invested in, and more enjoyment.

It's hard to save your pennies when you're buying other things constantly, like gas, rent, car parts, motorcycles, bike parts, plane tickets, ammo, magazines, tools, holsters, glasses, dentist, life.

$2000 is a pretty decent amount of money. The m92 is cool but I don't want to SBR it anymore so basically I have a weird loud AK with an uncomfortable stock and shitty sights. Also selling my GP100, possibly my CZ-82, and the thought of selling my 1PN34 has crossed my mind.

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>>31802574
you're just throwing the whole rod in the water nigga

>>31802572
Nope, didnt say that. But you can swap out calibers, uppers, etc and make an AR as accurate as you want. What can you do, hope the slavs that assembled your gun went for precision? Buy a PSL? Maybe get a melonite barrel instead of chrome lined? Show me an AK you can buy right now with a twisted 24" barrel that shoots sub moa.

>>31802169
Delicious Zastava

What's best Russian or AK based side mounting optic. For AK74. Nothing more than 4x, preferably something like a red dot.

Would a low profile pics tiny side mount with a Vortex Sparc be a more practical option?

>>31802621
Picatinny*

>>31802597
confirmed no guns just stop

>>31802594
Makes sense then, I suppose.
Looking forward to seeing the RPD.

>>31802655
>but but but I cant refute your claims
>better call you a name and then hide your posts
Nice try, kiddo. Pretty sure the cub scouts don't give out a badge for being an ignorant cunt, but I'd recommend you for one.

>>31802656
I wish I'd have picked one up when AIM had them for $1799. The ((sellers)) on gunbroker all want at minimum $2100 for them.

>>31802574
>he doesnt like that extra tasty AK recoil
>laughingsluts.jpeg

>>31802758
No I love it, but an AR is a better gun in general in the US. If you want some more kick on your AR, but a .300 blk upper on it; or hell even a .458 SOCOM or .50 beowulf, if you find yourself fighting Kodiak bears on a regular basis.

>>31802788
>.300 blk
Keep digging that hole deeper.

>>31802837
>He can only ever own an AK in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, or a fucking rimmed round- 7.62x54R

Literally disgusting, consider suicide.

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>>31802517
>less accurate
incorrect, Aks are on par with ARs in its spec range and also hits above its weight
>less compatibility- many different standards by manufacturer
AR manufacturers rarely consolidate either, every ak accessory fits as every ar one fits. you dont put a DD handguard on a MI barrel nut, same as you dont zenit a zastava
>Can't rapidly switch caliber
sure you can, pick up a different gun, easily switched
>Most barrels do not have concentric threading for silencers
is that why the russians have lots of suppressed aks? if youre that driven, it is easy to get concentric threaded bits
>smaller aftermarket
actually theres a sizable aftermarket, just not where you look because you're dumb
>expensive (now)
still 500 dollars or so, can go up for nicer ones. are you poor?
>higher kick
5.45 has a very soft recoil impulse, like a 5.56 scar, 7.62 has an impulse similar to calibers its power, not poodle shooting 5.56 similar to a 300blk
>easily penetrates drywall without much deflection.
this is bad how? run HPs or frangibiles for HD then.
>ammo less common in United States
7.62 is carried by most gun stores, almost all in fact. 5.45 is harder but ammo is easily ordered online, for cheaper than your 5.56

trash b8 is trash

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>>31802866
All my AKs are in 5.56. Your move.

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>>31802496

I had the chance to buy the RPD carbine version but I realized the idea was cool but the reality was less cool. It's a heavy gun that is so modified to work in semi-auto that it's just not worth having. I would much rather have a heavy barrel AK with drums. Which is exactly what the Russians figured out as well.

>>31802872
>incorrect, Aks are on par with ARs in its spec range

no, a factory Colt 6920 will outshoot any AK and you know it

>>31802788
Say what you will but slavshit will always give me erections, AR's dont.

>>31802906
>no evidence to make up his claims

Whatever you say Draco.

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>>31802788
>>31802574
>>31802517

Who the fuck complains of recoil on a 7.62 AK? It's not a damn .22 but for fucks sake it's nothing compared to full sized rifle cartridges. Use a muzzle nut or a brake and it's just as easy to stay on target if you know what you're doing.

And swapping calibers quickly?

What standing army using an AR based issue rifle swaps uppers and ammunition on the fly? It's quicker to just grab a different rifle and LBE with the appropriate mags loaded.

>fell for the bait
Who fucking cares. All these contrarians with the same tired excuses, it's not even subtle shitposting, this is just plain argumentative autism.

Pic of a Norinco Hunter just to keep the pictures flowing. Only sporter style AK that I like.

>>31801874
>>31801888

WHENS THE NEXT ONE

>>31802906
post time stamped rifles now or gtfo

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>>31802882
What is 9x39? or 9mm? Or 8mm? Or .308?

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>>31802906
you mean the 2moa 6920? lmao ive seen siagas shoot circles around hand built competition ARs, noguns confirmed

>>31802872
>incorrect, Aks are on par with ARs in its spec range and also hits above its weight
Simply untrue. Keep lying

>AR manufacturers rarely consolidate either, every ak accessory fits as every ar one fits. you dont put a DD handguard on a MI barrel nut, same as you dont zenit a zastava
Right, magpul grips WILL NOT fit on any AR lower. A BCM upper WILL NOT fit on any AR lower
A Geissle trigger WILL NOT work with ANY AR
>oh wait

>sure you can, pick up a different gun, easily switched
Having to have multiple complete rifles if you want to switch from a 16" 5.45 to a 20" 7.62
>lol oops forgot you cant

>is that why the russians have lots of suppressed aks? if youre that driven, it is easy to get concentric threaded bits
It's almost like I said 'most' instead of 'all'. Oh well, couldnt expect an AK guy to have a firm grasp on English.

>actually theres a sizable aftermarket, just not where you look because you're dumb
Once again, I see you aren't the best with English. "Smaller" is a comparison, the AK aftermarket is absolutely smaller than the aftermarket AR market, this is a fact.

>this is bad how? run HPs or frangibiles for HD then.
Franglibles are only effective when hitting a hard material like steel, and HP will still pierce drywall with little deflection. Holy fuck you literally don't even know what you are talking about

>7.62 is carried by most gun stores, almost all in fact. 5.45 is harder but ammo is easily ordered online, for cheaper than your 5.56
Except, I said "less," once again, you suck with English, this is a comparison. It is a fact that there is more .223/5.56 in the US than 7.62. You literally can't deny this.

Congrats on living up to the stereotype that AK fags are as stupid as antigun liberals.

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>>31802950
>stereotype

>>31802947
no you haven't, put a Colt 6920 and any AK you want in a rest(you can even use some decent Hornady ammo), the 6920 will be more accurate. we've done it at our range.

>he's right, better accuse him of not having any guns!

>>31802947
The Colt 6920 shoots quarter MOA.

>>31802950
Faggot James Jaeger/Chris Costa worshipper confirmed

How does that Thumb over Bore™ reacharound feel?

>>31802995
His argument is that his $2000 milled AK with specialty barrel is more accurate than a 6920- of course when you mention that you can get an AR with a 24" twisted barrel, he will say:
>but le meme is average AR isn't more accurate than AK

Literally hilarious watching AK fags argue.

>>31802995
>we've done it at our range.

Where is the proof then? Was the same shooter on both rifles? I can make up dumb shit too you know.

>>31802950
my man, try not to internalize your rifle so hard. It's pathetic like some cuck walking around with his dick in the air

Everyone, literally everyone with guns has an AR. They aren't magic, they are alright

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>AR fags are so insecure they literally cannot stop bringing up their $400 Del-Tons as the 2nd coming of Jesus

>>31803044
>he will literally defend $800 WASR-10s

Daily reminder that unless you paid $350 for your wasr, you made a bad purchase.

You guys can argue all you want about which is better, the AK or AR but you're ALL overlooking one very important thing.

They are not the same class of weapon.

They might both be considered "assault rifles" but they are actually very different things. The AK is a souped up SUBMACHINE gun, designed based around the tactics of the second world war, masses of infantry where the marksmanship skills of the individual aren't critical. It was designed to be used by illiterate conscript forces. The Communists care about the whole more than the individual.

The AR is designed to be a reduced power RIFLE to allow it to be more controlled, especially in automatic fire. It is contingent upon a trained solider with the individual playing an important role.

Two different rifles based on two different ideologies. Both rifles succeed in doing what they set out to do.

>>31803025
we did it for shits and giggles, not to prove a point on a mongolian wicker basket weaving board. ran multiple shooters through a bunch of guns using the same rest and same ammo.

differences weren't big enough to swear off and kind of rifle btw, but to argue that the AK is as accurate as an AR is retarded. your argument should be that it's not enough of a difference to matter.

>>31803070
I'm not poor so I don't own a WASR.

>>31803081
Looking at the M4 I'd say the Russian model was superior.

>>31802950
still waiting for a rebuttal to this>>31802942
or did a quick google search teach you something?

>>31803085
>we did it for shits and giggles, not to prove a point on a mongolian wicker basket weaving board.

So in other words you're just making shit up because you have autism. Gotcha buddy,

>>31802901
And so is the story of all civilian legal military guns. My grail gun is an MG-42 but the ridiculous mods required to make it work on top of firing 8mm mauser (good luck finding a 308 kit) killed it for me.

However, the RPD would probably mostly be mounted on my bike, or fired from the bipod. Fucker weighs 16lb unloaded, so not a carrying gun

>>31803116
>Fucker weighs 16lb unloaded, so not a carrying gun

Malnourished Slavs and Gooks can carry it just fine but you can't. Lol.

>>31803116
>>31803116

https://www.full30.com/video/339e7e5eaefd8312fece870f2401ded4

You were saying?

>>31803081
No they are two classes of rifles, sure; but not those two.

the AR is the customizable, precision made assault rifle of the freeworld; the AK is the cheaply stamped, wood dressed rifle to be produced en mass and distributed to 3rd world shitholes across the world to fight against the Marshall Plan. Korea, Vietnam, China, Mongolia, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, etc.

>>31802906
You're a fucking retard.

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>still won't post his rifles on an image board
A magical place

>>31803114
try it for yourself if you don't believe it. prove everyone wrong.

>>31802942
There are AKs in all of those calibers.

>>31803155
Call of Duty told him the AR is better.

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>>31803134
>>31803135
I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying it's stupidly impractical. Any real sustained fire standing would tire you out very quickly. I shoot my RPK offhand but it's a relatively heavy gun as well, and most of the weight is at the end of the barrel as I imagine similar to the RPD.

I want an RPD to mount to my bike. I would take the lid off my ammo case mounted on the left side and fill it with a big long belt of 7.62x39

>>31802950
>Simply untrue. Keep lying
multiple forum posts show their 6920s doing about 2 moa, while siagas do the same, how is this untrue?

>Right, magpul grips WILL NOT fit on any AR lower. A BCM upper WILL NOT fit on any AR lower
A Geissle trigger WILL NOT work with ANY AR

these are inconsistent with the type of incompatibilities aks face. ak grips fit on eachother, there is no upper and lower of an ak, and actually ak triggers are compatible with eachother. pick some different ones why don't you?

>Having to have multiple complete rifles if you want to switch from a 16" 5.45 to a 20" 7.62
lol oops forgot you cant

siaga 5.45x39(16") and vepr 7.62x39(20"), you were saying? and yes, i like having multiple rifles. I have multiple ARs even, switching uppers and shit is retarded.

> "Smaller" is a comparison, the AK aftermarket is absolutely smaller than the aftermarket AR market, this is a fact.

maybe smaller but not as small as you think, there are 10s of thousands of different accessories for aks.

>Franglibles are only effective when hitting a hard material like steel, and HP will still pierce drywall with little deflection. Holy fuck you literally don't even know what you are talking about

this video is on frangibles on ballistics gel, feel free to educate yourself :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIq86uI5gLY

and barrier penetration is generally considered a good thing as well, i don't remember having problems penetrating guard rails ;)

> It is a fact that there is more .223/5.56 in the US than 7.62. You literally can't deny this.

have fun paying 30+ CPR while im over here paying 23 cpr all day for quality ammo.

>>31803012
source?

>>31803014
i never said that, i have a run of the mill siaga, its accurate enough that it keeps toe to toe with ars in competition, something of which you have no experience in.

>>31803085
my 400 dollar siaga will run circles around anyones 400 dollar POS ar.

>>31803145
>The Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP)

Wtf??Wtf??

This post hahaha holy shit
>hold his legs!! You gotta use your weight it's the autism

>>31803145
you do understand that Mongolia is a democratic country do you not?

>>31803199
>my 400 dollar siaga will run circles around anyones 400 dollar POS ar.

find a $400 saiga now, compare that saiga in current $ to an AR of current $ and your faiga will lose badly

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>>31803145
you're saying the ability for cheap production is bad? we've got a real life retard on our hands.

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>>31802924
Have you found any alternative furniture for it? I've got one that I got burned on and I'm trying to lessen the sting of being a disappointment and general failure

>>31803224
> Mongolia isn't 3rd world
Maybe you should get your definitions only from Wikipedia.

>>31803241
alright, 650 dollar saiga, as that is what i can find them for. an AR built or bought for 650 will not compete with my saiga. even arsenals are available for 800 and they're very nice rifles.

you should post your rifle, what sort of AR do you have, friend?

>>31803249
never said it wasnt third world, way to move those goal posts lad.

>>31803224
Haha laughing at his random amalgam of different countries.

>Turkey join NATO in 1952
>AK-47, 1947
>Iran and Iraq
>Mongolia? Hahah

>>31803271
Then what the fuck were you implying?

>>31803212
>He never took a single college class on post WW2 geopolitics
You realize that the Korean war, Vietnam (not) war, our conflicts in Somalia, Iran, Iraq, and south america were all either proxy wars between the US and USSR, or results thereof.

"Marshall Plan" is simply the continuation of Truman Doctrine- and while the actual Marshall Plan was for postwar Europe; the Marshall plan is synonymous with a number of policies in the second half of the 20th century to prevent the spread of communism worldwide.

Please read The World in the Twentieth Century: From Empires to Nations; and get back to me.

>>31803280
>Turkey join NATO in 1952
Yes, BECAUSE OF THE MARSHALL PLAN YOU IGNORANT FUCK. Read about the Turkish Straits crisis. Holy fuck.

>>31803243
Am jealous, I want a Norinco Hunter, but I cant seem to find one for a decent price. LGS has a first gen one for $770.

>>31803284
that it is a democratic nation. It has no need to fight against the Marshall Plan, which was the recovery plan for Europe post WW2. In fact none of those countries you listed ever opposed the Marshall plan.
but your just doing this for the (You)'s

>>31802438
Id be curious in the WASR, how much do you want for it?

>>31803318
Wait what the fuck 770? I was told that's a shit price for what it is.

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>>31803356
its is 4-500$ is decent.

>>31803290
Not him, but how is that book? Anywhere I can ""find"" it online?

>>31803431
My mind is full of fuck, I got told 400 is the max you should pay for a hunter in any condition

>>31803454
Im guessing its just the election. I only recently took an interest in them and Ive seen them on gunbroker going for about $700 for almost new condition. LGS one is is shit condition, but they are convinced that it is a MAK-90

>>31803437
Probably, try the bay o pirates. The book is great, however its bias is pretty obvious. If you are going to read it, supplement with something else. My goto recommendation is The Age of Extremes

>>31803510
To be fair I also thought it was a weirdly configured mak90, if you really want it I'll sell it for like 6 even because it's never going to be the rifle I want without more money than I'm willing to dump into it

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>>31802621
an RS-regulate microdot mount and a primary arms advanced microdot. They are a great, cheaper setup that is very quality.
the red dot not on the rifle is the microdot and mount I mentioned. Very low-profile!

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>>31803454
well for what they are i think its a cool rifle. it just wont ever be a traditional ak or a phony galil.

>>31803620
I mean I wanted a traditional ak and didn't realize what I was getting into. It is still a really nice rifle and it has a hella smooth trigger pull

>>31803620
>tripfag thinks his opinion matters

>>31803649
Contact me at [email protected], I got a few questions.

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>>31803650
and yours does
>>31803649
id keep it they will increase in value over time.

>>31803676
back to AKfiles you go, attention whore

>>31803675
Alright sent an email

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>>31803748
hey buddy, how bout you eat a bag of dicks,

Finally got approved on AKFiles after two weeks.

>>31803748
Fuck you.

>ALG AKT isn't in stock
kill me familia. I want one for my WASR and Vepr.

>>31803748
but he is already on it ;^

>>31803620
based Indiana

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>>31804021
I live in indiana

>>31803831
>>31803832
>takes off his trip to defend himself

lol

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>>31804053
way she goes....

>>31804043
That's a good idea on the stock, is also the side folding one?
Thinking of getting an AK later at some point.
Do you feel more recoil on your kind of stock?

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>>31804110
kys
>we are we taking these pics?

>>31803888
Brownells has them in stock, as well as the AKT-E.
They're full price though.
You might wanna wait a couple weeks and see if somebody has them on sale for Black Friday.

>Link just in case
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/triggers/ak-trigger-prod80204.aspx

Holy shit since when did we turn into /arg/?

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>>31804168
Haven't shot it with the wrap.
You get a little cheek bite but honestly wasn't bad at all, more so for shooting in the winter when its cold as fuck out

>>31804184
why*
>phone..

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Today's haul

>>31804337
Noice

Heads up http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283890

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>>31804353
>ak100 recoil rod
>3 slot
>ak103 muzzle brake with baffle

If I didn't have to move in 3 weeks, it'd all be mine.
Well, hopefully someone else here gets in on it.

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>>31804184
do you not notice the difference?
>please you first i insist.

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I think I'm gonna switch the triangle with a BCM B5 on a JMAC Mod1 adapter. Triangle is just too short when I'm shooting prone.

>>31804527
Did you notice mine teehehehe teehee

>>31803243
I'm in California, so any chicom you find is banned by name, or most gunshops refuse to touch them because they think every single one is illegal. I'm getting ready to build one up on a 80% milled receiver soon, might do either 308 or 5.56, unsure as to what I really want to do. Either would be easy with cheap Yugo M76 or RPK parts and saiga 308 take-off parts. Might even engrave some deer or some shit on it to give 'er the ole fudd look like all the old Browning shotguns.

>>31804527
That stock is like 4km long, are you a yeti?

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>>31804683
yeti in Az, doubt it. I might be a samsquanch tho.

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>>31804841
>samsquanch in AZ

>>31804841
I think you mean mogollan monster for az anon (or skinwalkers)

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>Decent wood furniture
>Plastic grip
Does anyone sell a good wood grip that would match in color? This is starting to annoy me.

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>>31805031
basically a samsquanch.

>>31805037
http://www.russiansurplus.net/product_p/ak47-type2-pg-7.htm

>>31805037
Poles had Plastic pistol grips on their milled rifles with wood stock sets so it looks correct.

>>31798715
I had developed the same conclusion too. The US scaled down a rifle, the soviets scaled up a sub machine gun.

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>>31797346

what's the word on the RAS47?

>>31807086
On par with IO rifles.
>Explode in your face/garbage tier
There's a reason it's been referred to as the tRASh47 more than once.
>Lurk more.

>>31807140
Not everybody lurks akg. Be nice.

>>31807228
That was being nice.
The RAS has been talked about in every thread since it came out.
All one has to do is a little research of their own to find out the "quality" of it.
Or simply go back through the previous threads and read.

>>31807228
It wouldn't be a big deal if people didn't ask that exact question every 5 posts.

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>>31802866
You forgot .22, 9mm, .223/5.56, and 7.62x51, if you get rpk.

>>31803081
Don't waste your time friend, just let them argue into oblivion like they always do.

>>31803888
>>31804188
How is the akt? I want one for when I get an ak, but I heard they can damage the bcg tail, causing it to mushroom?