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Which MOSs are the most "anti-banter"?

Which jobs force you to become numale as fuck?
Which branch is the most likely to be a hugbox?

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Is it true that "banter" is banned in the military now?

I expected the MOSs with too many females would be anti-banter, but combat arms should be safe, right? I can say "grab her by the pussy" and not end up wasting my time standing in front of a midget 1SG, right?

>>31601132 #
>>31602302 #
I need a TS unfortunately.... My understanding was that they would ship you to basic and then make you wait around, I haven't ever heard of a ship date being pushed back before. I also did an interview with an investigator like 2 or 3 months ago (can't remember exactly when) already.

>>31604080
Airforce

Which branch has the most fat whinos who would rather complain then fix an issue?

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Do you think they check chat logs for things like the coast guard chat with a recruiter online thing when you enlist?

>>31604055
What are the odds of getting into OCS with a garbage (~2.2) GPA? I made the mistake of spending 2 years as a physics major

>>31604164
I think anything below 2.5 is considered retarded to the military.

>>31604164
0

>>31604164
None.

Am I out of shape or is this asthma?
>Run 40 yards.
>Run out of breath.
>Chest feels tight.
>Regain breath with in 20 seconds.
I live a lazy life style, last time I played sports was when I was 12.

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>>31604254
>Instantly diagnoses himself with a medical condition

Jesus fuck. Run more.

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>>31604080
>>31604100
>>31604127
Wtf are you doing

>>31604254
>I live a lazy life style
I think youre just a lazy fat fuck. Do Couchto5K. Stop eating so much whale blubber.

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Reposting from the las thread

Which branch is the best to fly for? Which is the most likely to accept a pilot candidate? How does one maximize their chances? Is a middle class tradesman life worth potentially risking for the sake of flying?

>>31605581

Army WOFT will let you put in an application to be a pilot before you're even in the military. Not selected? You don't join at all.

It's 98% rotary wing though.

>>31605666
>rotary wing
Not my first choice, but this sounds great. Thanks satan

I was gonna go chair because they said they should be able to waive my hand tattoo. Am I being meme'd into being a vagina?

>>31605666
In AIT rn but wish I did that straight out. Planning on putting in my packet before my contract is up tho

on the tail end of my deployment when the taliban had finally decided we were too big a deal to fuck with and were waiting for the next rotation of green dicks to fuck up, it was pretty quiet. quiet enough that generals started visiting our bumfuck little COP and with a group of them came a contingent of air force bitch boys. they gingerly stepped out their humvees with their carry-handle M16's pointing every which way, helmets tilted to the side and looking like a bunch soup sandwiches. we made them pull guard and you could see the fear in their eyes as they came up to relieve you. i caught an air fag E-5 sleeping on guard and reamed him the fuck out as an E-4 and he just sat there and took it. do you want to be a fucking bitch boy or do you want to do a real job?

man up

>>31606106
>Marines make me lazer off tattoo
>Army MIGHT waive it
>Chair says "Yeah sure, we just need to take some pictures."
I'll be the least pussy fucker in chair I guess. Kill me now.

>>31606106
Are you still in?

I assume you were regular infantry, how the fuck is shining rocks in a "quiet bumfuck little COP" manning up?

That sounds like garbage my man.

Reminder to anybody reading this: SOF or nothing.

>>31606106
Reading this garbage makes me depressed.

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>>31606007
With that tough guy image and those meme skills, you're going to do really well in life.

>>31606465
i'm long gone. a lot of work went into being able to "shine rocks" (whatever the fuck that means) in our formerly hot as fuck little COP. that COP was overrun three weeks after we rotated back home. keep your wannabe armchair operator shit to yourself, my man

>>31606497
>American History X
>my hand tattoo is in Hebrew
>American History X 2: The Linguists Strike Back
Most of my ink is vidya related anyways. Doesn't scream "tough guy." Just didn't know if I was stuck because of my questionable decision to get a hand tattoo.

>>31604055
anyone here in the Air Force with a TS?
How did the process go?

>>31604254
how fast are you running

>>31604164
Adding to what this anon asked, what gpa should one shoot for? What else do they look for besides a good gpa?

>>31606735

Aim for 3.5+, although 3.0+ can work if you have a STEM degree. Excellent PT, a clean record, and leadership experience are also factors.

If I get a short sleeve tattoo will the Navy require a waiver?

>>31606890
>if i get
you should know if you're already in, but if you're not, why get a fucking tattoo before joining?

>>31606890
>>31607025
>why get a fucking tattoo before joining?
I think you mean why get one at all? Tattoos are lame and cringey. Every 18 year old male idiot has a tribal sleeve and every girl has some stupid song lyric on her rib cage. Tattoos are insanely un original and played out. Dont get them.

>>31606700
They ask you lots of questions and you answer them.

If you have foreign family, good fucking luck

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Who's 11x here? What's it like right now with no major war going on?

>>31605581
USAFA

>>31607156
What if I have a cousin who became canadian?

>>31604254
Bud you need to pick it up. At the start of bmt I could do my mile and a half in 11 min now I'm down to 9 thanks to running every day at least 5 miles. It takes time but work on it. It will also suck but it's worth it. Running a ton gets you in damn good shape. I'm working my way to run a steady 8.5mph 10k a day

What happened to intelligent white men in the military? Why have they disappeared ? Or have they not?

>>31607506
they're all officers

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>>31607506
Theyre in SOF, like 95%+ are white.
>>31607538
Nice meme saying officers are "intelligent"

>>31607262
No shot m8

Canada might as well be ISIS hq

>>31607538
>>31607666
Thanks.

>>31607715
I know, that kinda bums me out
Fucking wildcard Trudeau

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>>31604134
Anyone?

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>>31604055

>>31607909
Wait, that was english?

>>31608012
If you're talking about the picture, it's the secret service.

>>31607961
wdf is dis

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>>31607961
this real?

>>31608082
I'm talking about >>31604134's spelling

>>31608151
I didn't think it was that bad. The CG recruiting website has a feature that lets you chat live with a recruiter. What I told them isn't necessarily what I told MEPS.

Let's say hypothetically, you failed your drug test at MEPS. How long does it take for something to come in the mail stating that you failed. Again, this is hypothetically. Some ass assumed otherwise and didn't answer my question.

>>31608222
>you failed your drug test at MEPS
Youd know right than. Dont they still sue the piss cups that immediately give feedback?

>>31608186
No you paranoid faggot how the fuck would they know.

how good of shape should i need to be in?

i can only do 27 pushups and then im out of breath

cant run 2 miles but my 1 mile is 10 minutes

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>>31608434
>how good of shape should i need to be in?
Better than that fat boy

>>31608186
im going to give you a little hint
MEPS hates talking with the service branches
or the amount of time it takes to schedule a consult would seem to indicate that

>>31606146
air force has so many cute girls, too

>>31608434
get to the point where you can do 40 pushups in one minute
run 1 mile in less than 10 minutes

>>31606146
I will welcome you in my arms broheim

>>31608434
you wont make it through red phase

>>31608546
Well now that IS a plus I didn't consider.

>>31608599
Well thanks. Do I get benefits for being in your arms?

>>31608511
>tfw dad just asked what I printed out

>>31608434
A 10 minute mile
Holy jesus that's a thing

If/once you max the pt test then you're ready for any basic with flying colors. More advanced chools will still be challenging but the better prepared you are for them the less likely you are to drop out

>tl;dr-get fit lardass

>>31608878
Haha either way i know the loli bit looks weird but those are real plans so stick to em.

>>31605581
Need a degree and good test scores to fly from OCS. Best one really depends on what you want to do. Both Navy and AF care for their pilots, AF more so I'd assume.

>>31607157

Boring and everybody wants to go Secret Squirrel or do something else once they get here.

>>31609389
Ideally, I'd like to fly an air superiority fighter. Naval aviation looks incredibly fun at its best, but the AF might be overall better. I take it the consensus is to stay away from Marine aviation

>>31609568
Marine """aviation""" won't have you flying much. Their wing department is in tatters
AF flies everything and Navy only flies certain planes so keep that in mind as far as your choice in platform goes

>>31609595
How much longer does the super hornet have until it gets replaced?

>>31608695
You have to let me intimately touch you
welcome to the airfags

>>31609438
no hanging out with bros? :(

>>31609820
>what are we gonna do on the bed recruiter-san?
For real though, if that's all I gotta do then I guess I'm getting my "tattoo waived" if you catch my drift. Wink wink

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>>31609933
oohh...

>>31609568

>I wanna do cool dogfight shit.


You and literally everyone else who wants to be a pilot.

>>31609769
Definitely at least another 10 years. They even want to make Advanced Super Hornets so it's still a viable platform. Whether you'll get that at API is another story

>>31610192
Was I supposed to lie?
>>31610287
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it

>>31610147
If chair is really this gay, I think I'll make it just fine. I'm imagining af boot like Camelot in The Holy Grail. Just with more Graham Chapman.

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>no tattoos, 3.5 GPA in high school, 91 GT on my ASVAB
>charged with 3rd degree misdemeanor domestic battery for getting in a fight with my twin brother in late 2014
>charge was dismissed after I went through a private 3 month anger management rehab program

Navy recruiter tells me whether or not I get a waiver is up to the CO of their area. Do I stand a chance, /k/omrades? I just want to go do seafaring adventures in cute little uniforms with all of my pals (no homo),

>cop's face when I ask if he's sure he's got the right brother

>>31610909
>charge was dismissed after I went through a private 3 month anger management rehab program
Than why the fuck did you tell your recruiter you stupid faggot???

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>be me
>about to enlist
>just found out Friday I knocked up a female friend a few months ago apparently.
Fuck me...

>>31611080
Make her abort that shit.
Make her drink and smoke weed to make that baby come out stillborn
there's some herbs posted around that help induce abortions too

>>31610919
Because it still shows up on an FBI background check you twat.

>>31611080
what does that stop you from enlisting

>>31611080
>Fuck me

Oh she will.

>>31611080
is she cute at least
>tfw haven't lost my virginity yet
will i get laid in the military brahs?

>>31611094
>FBI background check
They dont do that you twat. My budy had way more than that on his record and they didnt find any of it. And yes he has a secret clearance.

>>31611097

Can't enlist as a single parent.

>>31611150
Maybe. I'm about to lose my virginity next weekend hopefully. It's still about as hard tho as civilian world. And this has taken me about 4 months of working at it.

>>31611150
Body was sold 7/10. Her tits are perky, but kinda small. Something like a C. Face is kinda hit, but with the right hairstyle and makeup, she's prob 7/10 in that department too.

>tfw didn't lose v-card until 18. You'll do alright, bud.

>>31604055
Former Navyfag here,

I did a stretch from 2008 to 2012. I always had it in the back of my head that I could do something with SOF, but never took the chance. Now I'm in my late 20's and I keep having thoughts about joining the Army and trying out for Rangers before I'm too old. I think that I'd make a decent Ranger, and that I'd enjoy the kind of work they do, but I'm not sure. Even though I know what day to day life in the military is like and am way more mature, I'm worried that I'm still affected by the same kind of false confidence displayed by the typical kid who goes Option 40, 18x, or SEAL Challenge, and thinks it's going to be like CoD.

Can /k/, possibly Ricky if he's here, give me any advice?

>>31610909
Have you met the CO or interfaced with him at all about this? What rate are you applying for? If it's something in high demand, I'd wager they'll over look it. Especially if it's a misdemeanor.

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>>31611699
Are you me? I was navy from 2010-2014. Im 25 now and im getting an 18x. If you want it go for it. You in great shape? What rate were you?

>>31611817
>What rate were you?

I was IT. I've wanted to go SEAL ever since I was like 14, but I severely overestimated my physical capabilities back then. Not to mention I was only a basic swimmer and thought that I could keep up with them.

>You in great shape?
I'm at good and on the cusp of great. I realized what a lazy, skinnyfat piece of shit I was in the Navy, and started working out pretty hard after I got out. I can do 20 dead hang pull ups and 85-95 push ups and sit ups. My worst thing is running, but I'm not bad at it, just not great. I have ok endurance (ran a half marathon last year), but I'm not very fast. I feel like if I committed to the idea of enlisting again, I'd be even more motivated to tighten up my fitness routine even more.

>im getting an 18x.

Good for you bro. I actually think I have an aptitude for SF (I'm good at learning languages and like interfacing with and becoming part of other cultures), but I wouldn't want to go 18x. The idea that you could complete every event as SFAS and still not be selected without being given the reason why bugs the hell out me.

Do you get to keep any rank jumping over to the Army after being out a couple years? I was an E-5 when I got out, and it'd be nice to keep it if I going to get back in.

>>31611997
>I was an E-5 when I got out, and it'd be nice to keep it if I going to get back in.
Same.
The way my recruiter explained it is once we get all paperwork back from the navy and released from IRR I will retake teh ASVAB now the PICAT and the OPAT and submit all my info in one huge packet to USAREC and they will decide what happens. As in can I stay an E-5 or get busted to E-4. I honestly just want the contract more than anything so im fine eitehr way but staying E-5 would be sweet jsut to get the pay the whole time im in training.

You thinking Rangers than or going back navy and trying for Seal? With that being said i dont know exactly if Rangers straight up is open to prior service. I know for a fact 18x is which is why i went for it. Theres a marine going 18x as well in my station.

>>31612163
>You thinking Rangers than or going back navy and trying for Seal?

Rangers. As good a shape as I'm in now, I don't think I'll ever be a good enough swimmer to ever be a SEAL.

>With that being said i dont know exactly if Rangers straight up is open to prior service. I know for a fact 18x is which is why i went for it.

That's fine. I'm just spitballing at this point.

>. I honestly just want the contract more than anything so im fine eitehr way but staying E-5 would be sweet jsut to get the pay the whole time im in training.


E-4 pay during training wouldn't be terrible either, but I know what you're saying. On the bright side though, if do manage to complete the Q Course, you'll make E-5 and 6 easy as pie.

>>31612225
Yep i hear all that. Well good luck man go for it if its what you want. Talk to a recruiter sooner rather than later though to get the paperwork started and all that jazz.

>>31612286
Fucking A. Good luck to you man, I hope you make it and get to operate operationally. Then you can come back here and tell us all about how you [REDACTED] in [REDACT]istan.

Anyone here redpill me on 0311?

What's the best way to improve running stamina?

>>31612311
haha thx man maybe i will. Im not some COD kid though, im not trying to be jason bourne. I just want the challenge and adventure plus it has fast as fuck advancement and juicy bonuses. Could ideally easily hit e-8/9 and retire at 20 if i felt like it. We'll see though gotta take baby steps.

>>31612348
Not an expert, but I'd say 1 long distance, slow paced run (3-6 miles at a 10 min/mile pace) per week along with 2 runs of interval style training where you sprint or run at a quick pace for a set distance or time followed by walking recovery for for half that distance or double that time.

Also, don't feel bad or ashamed if you have to stop and walk for a minute or two of recovery during your long runs. A short period of recovery to get you breathing back under control doesn't negate the training you're doing.

>>31612346
I'm a Navyfag, but as I understand it being 311 is a shitty idea. Unless we end up going to war, you're gonna spend most of your time washing rocks and waiting for something to happen. Advancement is garbage because the Corps is lousy with you, and your job prospects when you get out are security guard or security guard. I've heard some ex-311's can get work with a PMC, but I don't know how true it is, and I'd personally doubt it because, like I said, if we're at peace the entire time you're in you're going to be green, and who wants that?

>>31612348
The best way is to read the whole thread first.
See >>31608511
You get faster by being less winded. The more you can run=the faster you can run. If you can run a 10k then you can easily go all out on a 2 mile run get it?

>>31608511
anyone got one without the anime shit

>>31612442
Just look up Couch to 5k.

who here /369/

Go to Meps the 12th, I'm trying for a Special Warfare Operator contact but I don't know what to do for my default rating. I want to do Hospital Corpsman but my recruiter said it's unlikely the job counselor will give it to me because I'm over qualified. (Figured if I failed BUD/s I could do SARC for a few years and try again) I've been looking at CTI but I don't think they'll give it to me with a challenge contract too. (Crypto Interpretive.)
Any input? What should I bring and wear to meps?

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>>31611080
>poverty and already creating a kid
Bro, you are already enlisted as fuck

You can use your kid to get out of work. Make the single 18 year olds do it instead.

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>>31612442
>not wanting a qt3.14 anime chick cheering you on.

>>31613580
>What should I bring and wear to meps?
Your recruiter will tell you
>because I'm over qualified
That's bullshit. If you insist on a contract they will give it to you. They tried pulling that shit by telling me I was too smart for a recon contract but I managed to get it anyway by saying it was the only thing I was interested in.
>Figured if I failed BUD/s I could do SARC
I know a couple guys who are doing this. The SARC pipeline is long as fuck though and if you fuck up any part of it you could be stuck at some shitty USMC aid station handling guys who just don't want to work.

How good of a swimmer are you? Can you tread water, and if I made you carry a 10 pound weight could you still tread?

Am thinking of going 68w. Yes I know nation's nanny's blah blah all that BS. As someoe attempting the medical field is there anything oit of the ordinary I should expect?

>>31614647
Sometimes you'll be put in a clinic where you have to care for everyone's shitty kid and deal with bitchy active-duty-wives trying to get some scripts for different pills to pop.

>>31611383
what, you think she's going to pop that kid out and hand it to him? served with plety of guys who had one or more kids on the outside. didn't stop them from joining.

>>31614548
Yes sir. Father was a technical at team 3 so I've grown up in the pool with some of those guys. Strong swimmer, got 6 months to get even stronger while i finish my diploma.

>>31610909
how the fuck can you have a 3.5 GPA and only get a 91 GT? in the Army if you get to your unit and they see you have a GT of less than 100 you have to go to FAST class to get your GT score up.
My grades is school were mostly B's and C's, and I still had a 124 GT. All of my other line scores were 119 or higer

>>31610909
>91 GT
Don't you mean AFQT?

>tfw 132 GT
>lowest line score was a 124
>[spoiler]only E-1[/spoiler]

What's the chance of me changing or becoming some crazy after the military? I know we're in peace time and all...

>>31615025
You're bragging about how "smart" you are in a meg thread. The e-1 was assumed.

>>31614749

Rules changed like 3~ years ago. Being a single parent is now a disqualifying condition for service. You either gotta get married or not have your name on the birth certificate.

It isn't the 90s anymore, anon.

>>31615025

Obviously not smart enough to use any of the dozen ways to get E-2 right out of the gate.

>>31604100
How old is that fucking specialist Jesus Christ what the fuck is going on in he Army these days

deployed 11b in afghanistan will answer questions

working with sf, was attached to the green beret that died

>>31615025
What's your MOS? 88M?

Is it actually worth serving for a full 30 years in the Army?
>most of family has past away, and we're pretty poor now
>nothing to come home to

>>31615233
Imagine being surrounded by proud women of color in all your E6 and above spots, pregnant proud women of color E4s shamming out work every day, and proud women of color officers doing god knows what all day. Now imagine all of them trying to claim that basic training gave them sleep apnea for dat sweet D disability benefit. Multiply x4 years. You tell me.

>>31615407
Is it -that- politically correct in the Army?

>>31607506
They (We?) are being told that the military is a waste of time and that they should apply their skills to more "useful" fields, like the overpopulated STEM meme.

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>>31615233
>peacetime
Peacetime military is more likely to turn you into a nutjob.

Peacetime military will make you a racist misogynist if you aren't already. If you are going peacetime, get a sex change. Makes it easier.

>>31615374
>was attached to the green beret that died
Havent heard about this. Howd it happen?

>>31615692
IED during a firefight.

Old EOD reportin'. Can answer wartime/training/living conditions kind of questions. Got out in 2013, so I don't know what slot avaliability looks like now.

Spent majority of my time in legacy companies and detachments, not new fangled big army style supercompanies, but I can answer about both to some degree.

>>31615790
>IED during a firefight.
Wow thats nutz. As if the firefight isnt enough but theres IEDs going off too. Its crazy stuff like that is still going on cause we dont really hear about it back here, they make it sound like the war is completely over. How often would you say stuff like that happens over there? Like is it still crazy as fuck?

>>31615835
Nothing is really crazy as fuck. This was during a huge operation. They were driving, took fire from their flank, dismounted. He took the lead, hot on the dudes ass. Got led down a path no wider than a doorway, hit the IED. Took both his legs, sent him 30' into the air. Rather not say what happened afterward.

Big army dudes are relatively safe besides the frequent IED's outside of FOBs and IDF.

>>31615847
>Got led down a path no wider than a doorway, hit the IED. Took both his legs, sent him 30' into the air.
Jesus
>Rather not say what happened afterward.
I feel like you said this just to peak my interest, can you give me anymore details whatsoever?
>frequent IED's outside of FOBs and IDF.
Damn i didnt even know it was still that bad. im telling you man anything about the war/middle east is fucking never on the news. Youd think its all tea partys over there.

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>>31615881
Every op and even his death were scrolled under the "headlines" for a day and was gone. He meant a lot to us.

Without going into detail as to what he was going thru in his last moments, I'l lsay he could have had a better shot at surviving if there hadn't been a DshKa on the hill shooting at the medevac bird. Took the AC130 and Apaches a minute to find him.

The news, the politicians, they don't give a fuck about us on the most basic level. It's up to us to cry over each other.

>>31615911
Damn thats crazy man. Did you guys at least kill the fuckers who attacked you and were shooting at the medevac?

>>31615959
Like I said, 2 apaches and an AC130 found him.

They didn't get the guy who shot at the trucks.

>>31615374

How bad is OSUT and garrison?

I ship out to Benning in a week

>>31615394
Only if you go officer, I am amazed that so many enlisted stick around as long as they do.

>>31616077
OSUT may vary by company. You could end up with a crazy ass company, you could end up with one that's test running for future female infantry.

Garrison's not bad, sit around with a study guide and take every opportunity you can to learn infantry tasks and get involved with the platoon both on and off duty. I was in a leadership position within 3 months. Garrison is what you make of it more than anything.

>>31616092
If you say so. I'll plan on that then, and it would help if any "officers" here could tell me their experiences.

>>31616098
>you could end up with one that's test running for future female infantry
wait
what?
as in being in a company full of females?
you and maybe another dude with all females?

>>31616156
No, as in all male but training how they'll be training women. Little to no smoking sessions besides the mandatory ones, phones often, soft shoe ruck marches, no 12 mile ruck, etc.

>>31616166
thats fucking lame
i want to get smoked

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>>31616092
When you have 3 kids, or a fuckton of child supportees/alimony recipients you aren't able to hop from the military to a normal job.

Non-SOF SNCOs exist due to limited alternatives and a fear of something new.

>>31616174
You say that now...

>>31616186
Hey ar do you know how many times per year they run SFAS?

>>31616221
Pretty sure they're running cycles constantly, don't know exactly. My buddy is going in July.

>>31616245
Hmm interesting cause im about tog et an 18x and the recruiter might just be stupid be he was saying how i might have to wait awhile after getting my contract cause my ship to OSUT has to match up with SFAS selection but he made it sound like its only twice a year or something.

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Is the meme about army drill sergents being softer than the muhreen drill sergents true?

Also, is this a shit reason for joining the military?
>be me
>going nowhere in life
>poorfag as fuck
>job is so dead end I might as well be paying to work there
>treated like shit at said job
>treated like shit by family
>not given credit for anything
>want to just get away from home, and the people around here
>want to bost self esteem by passing boot / basic
>want to better self

I know in the military I'll be treated like shit, but at least it's for a reason, and at the end of the day I know I accomplished something if I end up passing.

Pic unrelated.

>>31616292
Yeah you will end up sitting around a lot. One of the team guys here spent about 2 years floating till he got into his team. There's a lot of schools and training to go through till you're actually SF.

If you aren't 100% sure you will get your long tab, don't go 18X. If you fail or wash out of 18X the army will sit you at Fort Bragg for a few months before it gives you new AIT orders and you'll become a POG.

It's happened to my buddies, and it'll probably happen to you if you don't make it thru SFAS.

>>31616329
I say go for it if your life is headed downhill. The army can make or break you, it's up to you to decide.

>>31616340
>One of the team guys here spent about 2 years floating till he got into his team.
Wow does that include the entire standard pipeline with additional school added in or are you saying that was just wait time?
>If you aren't 100% sure you will get your long tab, don't go 18X.
I am i was jsut curious cause id rather not sit around here waiting. Once im in and getting paid it wont be as bad.

>>31616381
It's got a lot of fucking schools mixed in there with a lot of fucking waiting around mixed in there.

Hope you enjoy the thought of being at SERE school heh heh hehhh

>>31614913
Yes, sorry. Meant AFQT.

>>31616397
>Hope you enjoy the thought of being at SERE school heh heh hehhh
I do, man all that sounds good to me.
>It's got a lot of fucking schools mixed in there with a lot of fucking waiting around mixed in there.
Thats whats confusing me, im not sure if you mean the normal pipeline or some additional shit.
http://sorbrecruiting.com/Docs/SFAS%20Pipeline.pdf
If you can view this link this is the standard pipeline to the best of my knowledge. So im assuming with OSUT airborne and that plus waiting mixed in thatll take 2 years.

>>31611741
I have not gotten a chance to speak to him yet but my recruiter did say that it might be conducive if he met me. Recruiter is a friend of the family and thinks a lot of us (little brother ships out in December), so he's been busting his ass to get me in. We've been tackling this right now, so I haven't had a chance to discuss much with him.

>>31616464
At the bottom it says ~64 weeks, now throw some waiting around in there. The beret that died told me that Delta school's about a year long on its own.

I just don't know for fucking exact. I'm planning to hit the SF road in about 5 years.

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>>31616329
Make the best of it man

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>>31616489
>The beret that died told me that Delta school's about a year long on its own
Oh shit hearing this is getting me all juicy. Can you gimme any more info about this just to tickle my sweet spot?
>I'm planning to hit the SF road in about 5 years.
Wait i thought you wanted to go ranger?

>>31616534
Fuck no I don't want to go batt. Get my tab is all.

There's just a lot of shit you'll do, you'll train for months on end leading up to and during your time in the SF. I don't know much else to tell you, man. I can tell you that the last number in your ODA is your team number and that will designate whether you're light SF, mech SF, dive team, HALO, etc. and if you fail the school they send you to you'll either get fucked over hard or if you're lucky they'll keep you around till you can do it again.

>>31615394

20 is typical retirement, not 30. There's usually very little reason to go over 20.

>>31616570
My squadron sgt major visited the other day. All he fucking did was play Red Dead Redemption on our XBox and all he talked about was how he fucked random women around the world for the past 26 years of his military service and if he had Facebook kids he fathered and didn't know would be adding him.

so you could potentially unlock some new legendary status if you stay in past 20.

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>>31616557
Aw i must be confusing you with another 11b whose posted here.

Hey question about that delta stuff though. Im trying to figure out whats its deal. Basically why dont more people try out for it? Like i would expect every person in batt and SF to want to be delta. Is that the case? Are there reasons people dont want to go delta?

>>31616596
Batt =/= SF

not sure where you got that from. Rangers have 68W's, SF has 18D's.

I don't know / think you can pick your MOS at all. Not everyone wants or needs to be the Delta, there's only 2 per team and you have a lot of fucking spots open. Bravos are fucking awesome dudes, Charlies blow shit up all the time and fix haji davidsons sitting around, Echos are commo nerds, so on and so forth.

>>31616557
is 11b cucked? If I sign up as 11b, can I expect to be diversified and enriched?

>>31616619
No, I never experienced that bullshit. You will have gay ass TARP and SHARP meetings outside of your company that involve 100+ soldiers sleeping in an auditorium during death by powerpoint. One time it was in a hot ass chapel and literally everyone racked the fuck out.

Infantry world is straight up men, for now anyway. Seeing POGs at the range was like seeing a fucking retarded unicorn walking around, both rare where we trained, and also retarded.

>>31616639
thanks senpai

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>>31616616
Ohhhhhh fuck i just realized we are talking about different things. When you said DELTA i thought you meant DELTA Force not 18D.
With that said, do teh SF guys talk about Delta force at all?
>Batt =/= SF
>not sure where you got that from. Rangers have 68W's, SF has 18D's.
Never said that, im saying theres another 11b who posts here and he wants to join batt.

>>31616695
I've met a lot of old CAG dudes here, most of them are civilian and employed by contractors.

I talked to the SF guys about CAG while I was in the TOC for a bit. It's some shit like 6 months of training, which is actually less than SF training. Pretty much anyone can go CAG they just have to get slotted for it. That being said you gotta be somewhere preferably in Ranger Batt or SF to get a chance. CAG practices mag changes, dry fires, clearing specific rooms with a million different setups all mothafuckin day for hours before missions.
They are probably the best shots on this planet though.

>>31616730
Thats my point though, it sound like its awesome. So im wondering are there any downsides at all? Like why isnt every SF guy and ranger trying to go for it? Or are they?

>>31616763
I don't know. Personal preference for some of them maybe.

>>31616769
>Personal preference for some of them maybe.
But what is it that they dont like about it? Thats what im getting at. Is it too much time away from family? Constant killing? I dont even know how thatd be different from SF though.

>>31616865
It's completely different. CAG's objective is to save hostages. SF is to train the locals and fugg shit up.

SF guys? They do fucking anything...fuck man. I asked a Bravo when I first got here what the longest burst he fired from a minigun was, he told me 25 fucking seconds. Holy shit man. Not to mention being here with them and seeing how they work on mission, it's way different than people imagine.

There's something seriously awesome about watching these fucking dudes work, especially from live feeds from drones providing overwatch. Watched a mass group of 150+ ANSF / Rangers / SF get together after they hit the ground, and 2 12 man teams just slowly and steadily trickled off the sides of the cluster fucked. Looked almost robot the way they did it. These guys love each other like family and they are fucking amazing.

>>31616962
All that sounds amazing and i believe it all. Doesnt CAG fuck shit up as well though???
Cant they do even more???

>>31616730
Saying that their training is less than SF doesn't really do it justice. SF spend a significant portion of their training on foreign languages and customs training. CAG is just straight up batman shit

>>31617026
Was just quoting a team sgt who was the chief instructor at SFAS for 2 years...dunno bruh. Complete different animals.

>>31617023
Like I said, they save hostages. SF and CAG have quite different missions.

>>31617042
>Like I said, they save hostages. SF and CAG have quite different missions.
I realize but considering CAG is above SF i would imagine their budget is even more loose and so are the rules.

>>31617064
Can't beat a dead horse.

Tappin out for the night

>>31617023
CAG is supposed to be more discreet. If they need a large contingent they'd bring either SF and SF trained guerillas or Rangers, a la gothic serpent

>>31617023
You're falling into the classic trap of thinking in "tiers". Different elements different things, they aren't just progressively better at the same stuff.

>>31617042
I get what you mean by different animals, it stands to reason that since the jobs they do are so radically different that the training would be as well

>>31617064
>Above SF

That's like saying cyber is above signals. It's harder to get into, but they can't do each other's jobs.

>>31617085
Makes sense

>>31617099
I suppose tahts true but since most CAG comes from SF and batt id assume it has those same knowledge/skill sets plus more.

>>31617116
>It's harder to get into, but they can't do each other's jobs.
Again, see what i said above. I realize they are different. But since CAG is more secretive and all that jazz i feel like they could get away with way more than SF.

Anyone go down the Officer route ITT?

Im about to go Uni could a anon share some of his experiences completing the ROTC.
Do they expect you to major in something relevant to the MOS you want?

>>31617150
Cyber guy here. Most of us got selected from signal branch. I know a lot of the same stuff, but can't do that job now.

>>31617278
Officers don't get to pick their MOS directly and their degree doesn't matter except for some niche cases.

>>31617326
I had another anon tell me officers could apply for a MOS. Although I probably misinterpreted what he was saying.

So how is the selection done?
For example, if I said I spoke fluent Arabic would that change what would be open to me as an officer?

>>31617367

A language won't open up more basic branches, but it can give you opportunities down the line.

You basically put together a branch "wish list" and then get assigned a branch based on how you rank against your classmates. 4.0 GPA and a PT stud with extracurriculars? You will probably get active duty with your first or second pick. Mediocre candidate? You might get one of your picks if it isn't a popular branch. Bottom of the barrel? You won't get active duty, and you'll get whatever is left.

There are some exceptions. Cyber has a selection process and wants relevant experience, for instance.

>>31615343
>How old is that fucking specialist Jesus Christ what the fuck is going on in he Army these days
Before I got out in 2012 we had an E4 SIGINT guy who is in his mid 40's. He enlisted because he thought it would be fun, and he was a millionaire already (ran a couple of IT and management contracting companies. He would sell one for a couple of million, start another, sell that for another couple of million etc.). He was goofy as fuck and always bought the stupidest shit because when you're a millionaire money doesn't mean the same thing to you as it does to normal people.

>>31617429
Thanks senpai.

Last question. Is there a ranking of most-least competitive branches?

>>31616340
>If you fail or wash out of 18X the army will sit you at Fort Bragg for a few months before it gives you new AIT orders and you'll become a POG.

Are 18x contracts no longer sending kids through 11x OSUT before BAC anymore?

>>31617624

You still go through OSUT, but the demand for infantry is at an all time low so "needs of the Army" doesn't mean SF failures go infantry automatically anymore.

>>31616730
>Pretty much anyone can go CAG they just have to get slotted for it.

This. There are non shooter slots in CAG and they actively recruit. I was intel and got an email about applying and so did a few other intel people I knew.

>>31617591
I was told millionaires couldn't be enlisted because they were more difficult to subjugate. The lack of money is what gives an officer power over an enlistedfag.

>>31617595
That varies from year to year. Generally infantry has been the most in-demand, but it is also the largest. Political factors also play a part. IE, if you're black and one branch really needs diversity, you could get sent there.

>>31617660

There's a chapter you can use for it, but it isn't automatic.

I made more than my PL as a SSG anyways.

>>31617691
> IE, if you're black and one branch really needs diversity, you could get sent there.
Wew, I better hope Clinton gets elected so AA quotas aren't cut.
Although, I guess serving under Hillary would suck too.

Wait, is the meme true then?
Is the Army more full of blacks than the Muhreen corps because black people are typically worse swimmers?

>>31617708
>There's a chapter you can use for it, but it isn't automatic.

CHAPTER 5-3: SECRETARIAL PLENARY AUTHORITY (“ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY”)

This provision of AR 635-200 provides for those soldiers who desire to leave active duty but who do not qualify under any other provision of AR 635-200. Recent guidance (MILPER Message NR 97-095) emphasizes that requests under this provision will not be approved unless discharge is clearly “in the best interests of the Army,” not necessarily in the best interests of the soldier. Individual requests which serve only the interest of the soldier - particularly those involving soldiers with critical military skills or bonus recipients - will not be approved except under exceptional circumstances. Requests for separation more than three months before ETS normally will be disapproved.

>>31616464
>Recruiter is a friend of the family and thinks a lot of us (little brother ships out in December), so he's been busting his ass to get me in.

If the recruiter is actually your buddy, I doubt he'd bullshit you on this or string you along just to kick you out. He knows the situation better than any randos on /k/ would. So what he says is probably accurate.

>>31616557
You seem pretty serious about not wanting batt. Why? I'm curious about going batt, is there anything I should know?

>>31617651
> I was intel and got an email about applying and so did a few other intel people I knew.

How did it go?

Anyone have any idea if the disgusting ASU's will be phased out in the near future?

Just give us back our WW2 service uniforms.

>>31606007
Pretty sure the Navy allows hand tattoos.

They started allowing sleeves and everything back in the spring.

>>31618089
>How did it go?

I didn't apply. I was deployed and had extended for the deployment. When we got back I ETS'd and decided I wanted to go to college instead.

>>31615272
What would make him a single parent though, if the mother still exists?

I was in bootcamp earlier this year and a shitload of guys had kids by chicks they weren't in a relationship with.

He should be fine if the girl is taking care of it.

>>31618089
Can confirm that you get a lot of recruiting emails for different units if you're intel.

Most Intel guys just trashcan those emails instantly because they always start with "come take a PT test". Who wants to give up a comfortable desk job to go innadesert and have to PT all the time?

Of course, that same sentiment is why coolguy groups are always hurting for good support guys.

>>31618515
>>31618587
Dont those types of units come with perks though?
Faster advancement?
Bonuses?
Better schools maybe?

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Any Navy friends here? What's the reserves like? Should I go officer or enlisted?

>>31618643
Faster advancement? Not really.

Bonuses? Only at reenlistment, and they're usually only MOS based. You do get SDAP, which can be nice, but not necessarily worth it.

Better schools? More tactical ones, as far as good support schools it depends.

>>31616557
Do you know how to swim good bro?

Should I learn, I fucking suck

Is it actually worth becoming an Officer? What would make me a good one? I have studied many books regarding the military and politics, but I highly doubt the Army will give a shit if I'm knowledgeable in either of those fields.

>>31605581
From my experience, getting pilot through NROTC is a pretty safe bet. Out of the 9 people who wanted aviation when I was in NROTC (including myself), 7 got it.

Pretty good odds imo

>>31618587
>Most Intel guys just trashcan those emails instantly because they always start with "come take a PT test".

Lol

That and really after working in the IC for awhile being a cool guy operator in the sense of being a pipe hitter trigger puller becomes far less appealing than continuing to work in the IC. At least in my experience.

When I was 18-19 and dumb, yeah I wanted to reclass to 11x or put in an SFAS packet. Once I had worked in the IC awhile I found out not only was I good at it, I liked it, but it was more important than being a trigger puller if you can do it.

Now I'm in college involved with a DIA sponsored program.

>>31618694
>Better schools? More tactical ones, as far as good support schools it depends.

This.

I took a CI Analytics class at CENTCOM when I was in that had some Naval Special Warfare intel support guys in it. They got to do some shooting schools and offroad driving schools non SOF intel guys probably wouldn't (depending on MOS), but we went to the same intel courses.

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>tfw you didnt even make APFT in OSUT as an 18x and now your life is shit

whenever they dont have me working i honestly wish i would jus drop dead, brahs

>>31618681
I'm in the Navy, but still in schooling.

The officer vs enlisted question depends on what you have done and what you want to do.

So, what have you done, and what do you want to do?

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Almost done with C25K, bros. There are no brakes on this cardio train

Next up, 5kto25k

>>31618987
What'd you miss, the run?

>>31619082

I want to work intel but I have a decent career path and don't feel like dropping everything for active duty. Apparently you have to be in the CIA to get a spot as a reserve Intel officer in OCS so I guess it's enlisted for me.

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>>31619156
nice

can webms play sound on here?

>>31618681
As a former enlisted Navyfag, I'd recommend going officer just for the money. An O-1 made more than twice what I did in base pay as an E-5 with 4 years of service, and it only went up from there. That said, I don't really know what officer life is like. It seems like there's a lot more bullshit politics to play at that level.

>>31618987
so what do you do know?

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>>31618681
Yes, what do you want to know???
Officer vs enlisted is apples and oranges.

>>31618987
Yo can you elaborate, how the fuck werent you ready?

>>31619156
Good job

>>31619196
>intel
Go active, CTx or IT

>>31619324

Eh I work in politics so I'm used to that. What are the options for reserve officers?

>>31619369

Should I just give up and go Army?

>>31619426
>Should I just give up and go Army?
How did yo get that from what i said? If you want to go navy then go navy.

>>31619196
>t to work intel but I have a decent career path and don't feel like dropping everything for active duty.

Why don't you apply to a civilian agency?

Need help?

CIA.gov DIA.mil

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>tfw 36 and applied to rejoin the TA

What are the negatives to enlisting Air Force vs enlisting Army?

>>31619369
>elaborate

Negative, just here to bitch. Obviously it isnt any one issue, though, and all of it was in my control.

>>31619498
>What are the negatives to enlisting Air Force vs enlisting Army?

You get shit from other people who enlisted in the Army to do probably the exact same MOS you have but try to talk shit like they are combat arms.

My experience as enlisted in the Army was that everything Air Force is nicer and people who make fun of them for being pussies or whatever are jelly as fuck. When I did that CENTCOM class I posted about earlier I stayed in a hotel ran by the Air Force on Macdill. Nicest military housing I ever stayed in. Nicest military gym, everything was nice. It was the same when I was on JBLM/Fort Lewis for awhile. We would go over to the Air Force side since we were close to get food from the hospital DFAC instead of going back to where we were put up in some shitty old MP barracks eating out of their garbage chow hall (they literally had rotting food being served).

The guys who were in Qatar while we were in Iraq were around mostly Air Force people living the "deployed" Air Force life.

>>31619544
Ummm ok, when youre done crying though i would like to know what happened.

>>31619498
>What are the negatives to enlisting Air Force vs enlisting Army?
Again, apples and oranges. They are 2 different worlds.

>>31619462

Navy Reserves don't take intel officers unless they're CIA and I don't want to go active because I have a decent career.

>>31619477

I want to serve my country in the military. At least for a few years, it's a personal thing for me.

>>31619590
Ok so what are you trying to do then? Seems like you got it figured out.
If you have a decent career than why even join?

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>>31619568
>Army sneaks onto AF side because so much better
>Tfw a marine and sneak over to Armys side because so much better

>>31619622

I forgot to add: there is a lot of friendly ribbing and banter and shit. But there is a difference between that and actually talking shit.

An infantryman who sat on a COP getting shot at all the time and going on patrols and making contact with the Taliban is going to be salty as fuck over how POGs spend their deployments mostly (if at all) not doing those things. That's different than some supply choad or generator mechanic talking shit.

And sometimes the banter will be had when you can tell the Air Force guy is insecure about it.


>>31619612
>I want to serve my country in the military. At least for a few years, it's a personal thing for me.

Then do it.

>>31619613

I want to serve in the military, even for just a few years in the reserve.

>>31619629

Yeah but I want to do something decent, not just figure out supply chains or stupid shit like that.

>>31619746
>Yeah but I want to do something decent, not just figure out supply chains or stupid shit like that.

Then do it. Holy shit it's not that hard, high school kids do it every day. Drive down to your nearest recruiting office and tell them what MOS you want and that you're ready to leave ASAP.

>>31619590
Really? who told you that? I guess it's different for reserves, I got in for active doody from OCS

>>31619816

The officer coordinator for the area. He flat out told me "unless you've been in the CIA or DIA you don't have a shot"

If I want to do infantry, should I go USMC or Army?

Alright, what is the best branch and unit(?) to join if I want to be a cool guy? Specifically, which has the best reputation for holding itself to higher standards of discipline, conduct, physical, mental, marksmanship etc. and performing better than their peers? I plan on enlisting in a year and I want to go special forces but I want to have a specific goal to train for and work towards.

>>31618987
Hey little faggot what were your stats before you left so retards here who wanna go 18X don't suffer the same fate.

>2 mile time
>push ups in 2 min
>sit ups in 2 min

>>31621498
Ranger batt. Hands down.

It is not for the weak or faint of heart.

>>31605581
In USAF they're starting to bring back enlisted pilots
but the slots for that are rare and standardized test scores + fitness +other evaluations are probably going to be through the roof.

If you have, or are currently working for, a bachelor's degree, consider AFROTC.

>>31606146
you can choose to be a jtac or something like that
they work with ground units and are tested to their standards.
most JTACs I've worked with tend to be brought into the army/marine fold and pretty far removed from AF groups, though they are still AF

>>31606700
>>31607156
I am a US citizen, but my family are Taiwanese.

On the TS clearance, it's a no-go even though Taiwan is basically the butt-slave of USA. This applies not only to immediate family, but to shit like cousins and stuff.

That's why I went 44GX... no TS, and asian stereotype lmao

>>31611080
here's what you do pal trust me i'm doctor engineer phd faggot
seriously tho, if you don't want the kid:
>invite her over to discuss your futures
>make a herbal tea
>black cohosh, shit ton of vitamin c (think the little pouches with 1000mg or some shit, that can serve as the sweetener), and a bit of angelica
>make sure she drinks it, act sad and shit if she doesn't like/want to guilt her because you're the potential dad
>when asked, just say it's orange tea with a touch of herbal infusion
>change topic so she doesn't ask about the herbs, if she does, she's a nosy shit and tell her its grassroot or something
>wait 2/3 days
baby should flush out

>>31618798
>undergraduate degree
>not being completely retarded
>able to take constructive criticism from senior officers and senior NCOs

>>31623179

Not that guy, but what options do you have once you have your degree?

>>31623332
If you complete both the AFROTC program and your degree program, then you get commissioned as a 2LT. Your class rank and selection board results, and AFOQT (basically GPA, how you get along with people, and officer qualifying test) determine what you get assigned to. The ideal is a pilot slot.

If you ALREADY have a bachelor's degree, OTS is the best option, but getting in is highly dependent on AFOQT scores - and even then it's tough, since there are more AFROTC slots than OTS slots.

>>31621498
>Alright, what is the best branch and unit(?) to join if I want to be a cool guy?

Air Force.

>>31623215
>On the TS clearance, it's a no-go

Who told you that?

A recruiter who never filled out an SF86?

>>31623316
>Being at the mercy of OERs for your career
>Stuck kissing ass not just to get ahead but to not be put out at high year tenure

>>31623458
no, the TS clearance issue came in a denial form/report/thing from DSS to the AFROTC cadre.

>>31623471
true
read: why I went medicine lmao

In college and too late to join ROTC. I'm an EE major with a roughly 3.5 GPA, in good shape. Only work experience is in a research lab on campus. Not really in any relevant extra curricular activities except an engineering mentorship group

How do you think I'd look for getting into OCS/OTS etc?

>>31623511
How's your physical fitness?
almost all branches are almost always looking for more engineers.
the dealbreaker (if any) will most likely the standardized test scores and fitness

>>31623545
I'm mostly worried about getting letters of rec as stupid as that might sound.

I can run a 6:15 mile and am pretty good with the other physical parts. Guess I'll go ask about taking the AFOQT and other ones

>>31623559
The AFOQT is (kind of) like the GRE or SAT, just making sure you have high-school level education

It's not silly, letters of recommendation are also a part of OTS/OCS selection. If there are professors that know you well as a person it's worth asking for a rec.

Also try volunteering (if you have time) at some ROTC organizations/clubs that include civilians.

>>31623609
I'm a senior but first quarter one. Was thinking of contacting the dude in charge of my uni's ROTC squadron and going to talk to him

Everyone says if do ROTC you'll have to go through OCS once you have your degree anyway. What's up with that?

Damn since there is like infinite ROTC questions today I might as well ask mines...

Can I ROTC as a transfer student?

(going in as a junior)

And would they take me with a 2.7 GPA from CC

(I promise i'll do my best with a clean slate ;) )

>>31623893
You'd need to contact them before you go. ROTC takes two years and you'd need to go to a program over the summer before your first year to make up for the two prep years normally done

What's the quality of life difference between the navy and the air force? Which one will fuck me the least?

>>31623920
Oh nice, good advice. I suppose I will contact them as soon as I decide which school to go to. I can probably do ROTC here in my neighborhood over the summer, you think? that way I don't have to go far (to uni and take it there).

Any thoughts on whether they'd disqualify me according to my transfer GPA? (I fucked up early on and then I got serious, but transferring to a uni gets me a clean slate which I have no doubt I will do well in. major is EE)

>>31623975
The summer thing will be at a base and everything related to moving to that and so on would be taken care of

>>31623830
By all means talk to him. It's too late to join ROTC but volunteering with them and expressing interest is definitely good.

>>31623975
2.7 should be fine, but you either got 2 years of really intense ROTC or a 3year program

>>31624002
When you say volunteering, what exactly would that entail/do you mean?

>>31624002
>2.7 should be fine, but you either got 2 years of really intense ROTC or a 3year program
Thanks, thats really encouraging.

Define intense ROTC?

Another question, do I have to build a packet to show i'm a good candidate or do they take mostly anyone that's interested and meets academic standards?

I have a PT test next weekend and I havent got off my ass for 7. What do?

Also I got in a car accident a 2 weeks ago and Im still a little bit sore. How does one get a profile in the national guard?

>>31624170
weeks

I'm a weak swimmer will that matter if I want to go AF pilot?

>>31620699
This gets asked at least half a dozen times a thread I swear to christ they should put it in the FAQ

Go army, marines is for high school dropouts and minorities

>>31624195
You'll need to learn how to swim at some point. AF Pilots go through a multitude of tests which involve swimming.

>>31624170
Do the APFT every night before bed, minus the 2 mile run. you sick nasty girls dont give a fuck bout pt it looks like.

>>31624021
As an example, Air Force ROTC has a club called Silver Wings which is open to both cadets and civilians. If your nearest ROTC detachment doesn't have a club chapter open to civilians you can always ask them if there's anything you can do to participate in extracurriculars.

>>31624115
Intense ROTC means you go to summer training to make up for missed first 2 years.

You'll also be catching up in terms of lifestyle, D&C, and things like that

>>31624115
Well
Generally enrollment has been low due to more liberal sentiment, but it's been rising in a few places.

A good starting package is good grades, sandardized test scores, and be able to hold a decent conversation.

If they ask for documents, just provide those documents and nothing else, quality and efficiency is great but so is practicality.

MOAR ROTC
Should I go in as a freshman or wait until my junior year? I really want to do it, but I don't know if that's a good idea to wait.

>>31626084
Freshman year would be the wisest choice
The program won't be thrust upon you all at once, and there is less catch-up to do. A lot of junior allocations need to do a LOT of work to catch up, and still be competitive in normal academics.

All goes as planned I'm leaving for Paris island in 7 days with a CX program code.
Any advice?

>>31626222
>Spell "Parris Island" correctly or you won't get your mail, lol.

Jokes aside, if you're squared away both physically and mentally, good luck to you!

Bring foot powder with astringent in it - it keeps your running shoes/boots dry and clean.

>>31606042
Can you fags have dip now too?

>>31623162
>Ranger batt. Hands down.
Werent you just hyping up SF earlier?
Now youre saying batt is better?

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>>31613890
I don't think he knows about Tricare yet but I'm sure the girl does.

>>31623951
Been in the Air Force a little under a year now, aircrew position. So far the Air Force is known for it's quality of life. If you're single you'll more than likely be put in the dorms, which isn't bad at all. If you're married or have dependents with you, then you can be moved off base.

>>31626789
>Enlighten me what job you had while enlisted and how it helped you after retirement?
Not him but theres this little thing called the Gi Bill which lets you get a degree for free. You fags never get tired of rationalizing your shitty MOS/rate with
>muh post service job opportunity
no one cares.

does the start of the Armies financial year mean it will be easier/faster to get a contract and go?

>>31626894
Yes,
now go
and
stay go

>>31623162
Holy shit, took a look at that and the training sounds absolutely brutal. That's kinda what I hoped it would be like though, to be tested to your absolute limit. Also, I'm asking this just as an aside but anybody got any good info on STS or Seals and what they're actually like?

been waiting on a med read for two weeks now

recruiter said it would take a few days and whenever I ask him about it he says he hasn't heard anything yet.

I submitted documents for shoulder surgery (torn labrum) and a minor concussion that happened 8 years ago (never lost consciousness).

How long is a med read supposed to take?

>>31624389
>marines is for high school dropouts and minorities
But I'm a minority

>>31627764
>He's trying to say Marines are dumb
>Marines have higher educational requirements than Army
>Says is instead of are

Welcome to America. Come back and the idiots think they are for smart for being pussies. Hiding in a hidey hole

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Is US military pay as shit as the charts make it look? Just by the pay charts (without accounting for potential benefits or bonuses), a W1 with ten years of service makes less/month than a canuck Cpl Spec with six, even with our shit dollar.

Is there a separate chart for specialists I should be looking at? Do you get bonuses based on specific qualifications?

>>31628109
If you think about everything that's provided for you, military pay is pretty good for a single dude

>>31628109
A normal scrub doesn't get paid shit.
If you want money you need to be something either very smart (like a pilot or nuke) or some kind of special operations that will get you jump/dive/demo pay like a SEAL, PJ, or CCT

>>31628109
You get free college, free medical, a ton of discounts provided by the military and by law for stuff like banks lonas later on.

You get free food or a stipend to cover it.

And yeah, if you are in a specialized job you get bonuses monthly, and often for reenlistment.

>>31628428
>You get free college, free medical, a ton of discounts provided by the military
Par for the course.

>and by law for stuff like banks lonas later on.
>You get free food or a stipend to cover it.
Tis more than we get. Do you get housing allowances too?

>>31628420
>>31628428
>If you want money you need to be something either very smart (like a pilot or nuke) or some kind of special operations that will get you jump/dive/demo pay like a SEAL, PJ, or CCT
>And yeah, if you are in a specialized job you get bonuses monthly, and often for reenlistment.
That makes more sense. It just seemed really wrong to read that a US Warrant Officer could make less than our "My Job Is Reading A Flowchart" computer techs corporals.

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Which is superior

1. A service academy (the Navy's Annapolis or the Army's West Point)

2. ROTC at MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, or Dartmouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCkwl8ovXE

>>31627828
Yeah, when I asked my initial question I was hoping I wouldn't get

>marines r dumb

type answers

Any input you can provide?

>>31628603
For a mil career or in general?

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>>31628603
Pic related was a Harvard grad. He seemed to do pretty well before going full retard and shooting for military poonaninininini.

I'd wait until after the elections if I were you, guys.

Now is the worst time to enlist.

>>31628931
Why?
How do elections change anything?

>>31628958
Hillary just said she will turn the airspace above the Russian bases in Syria into a no-fly zone.

>>31628958
Non-patriots only want to serve under a president they vote for, just so they can release in 8 years when the pendulum swings.

>>31628983
How does that have an effect on someone enlisting exactly?
Spell it out.

>>31628991
>>31629037

I doubt there is any patriotism in attacking Russia for no reason.

Last week Putin gave orders to shoot down anything trying to attack Assad forces, American or not.

Now yesterday Hillary said she will do just that, called Russians war criminals and said she will blockade Russian military bases.

We are literally 1 missile away from DEFCON 1 if she's elected.

>>31629062
So what you're saying is that if I wait until after the elections to enlist, we won't go to war with Russia?

Or are you trying to save me from having to fight Russia?

I still don't get it.
Why should I wait until after elections?

>>31629083
>Or are you trying to save me from having to fight Russia?
This.

If Hillary wins I'm getting my shit and going innawoods. I suggest you do the same.

>>31627390
You shouldve lied. RiP your dreams.

>>31629062
That means its the best time to enlist. 99% of people here want to see action.

>>31629099
I'd rather fight Russia than try to live off of blue-gill and MREs waiting for a war to end.

You're a fucking pussy lol

So when Hillary is inaugurated, you're going to grab you're shitty bug out bag and go live "inmawoods"?
Fucking lol

>>31629062
>hillary calling someone else a criminal
that's fucking rich, but yeah shit will go sides ways if she gets elected potus

>>31629062
>>31629099
>enlisted in 2007
>never reached a warzone no matter how much I begged and pleaded
>been waiting 9.5 fucking years for a war
Welp, guess I'm voting Democrat.

>>31629110
>99% of people here want to see action.
Fighting ISIS durkas is one thing, fighting a superpower is another thing.
I will see more action innawoods, than anyone who enlists and gets fucked by one of the Russian guided missiles.

>>31629110

I have six scars going around my shoulder that are obviously from an arthroscopic surgery. Do people really get away with lying about that?

The concussion was on the paperwork for the surgery under "past medical history" so I had to disclose it. Otherwise I would have to photoshop the medical docs...

Is there a location preference list (subject to the needs of the service of course) that you get towards the end of OSUT (11X if that helps) or is it completely random?

If so what are some bases to shoot for/avoid?

>>31629419

There is definitely a wish list you can fill out. This wish list is then promptly shredded and used as mulch for the local shrubs.

If it's a cool post that people recommend, everyone else wants to go there too. Europe, Hawaii, Carson (in Colorado), and Lewis (in Washington state) are all frequently cited as being awesome. San Antonio is pretty nice (TX is crazy military friendly) as well. Alaska and Korea are awesome if that kind of life is what you're into, and they are a little easier to get since not everyone wants them.

Honestly the best assignments are ones that you will never hear about. Tiny Army posts scattered all around the country and the world. Embassies, weapons research posts, NATO assignments, coolguy support elements, echelons-above-god (intel agencies, Pentagon) etc. Everywhere you find a US government presence, there are probably a couple uniformed billets. You probably won't get a shot at any of those as a fresh 11X, but it is something to look into later in your career.

>>31624462
Yeah I dont give a fuck. They dont chapter you out for failing several either. All they do is flag you which means that you dont get to go to any special schools not that i want to anyway. I have a year and a half left, I dont give a fuck.

And like I said before Im still sore in my lower back and my wrist feels fucked up occasionally. So like I said is there anyway i can get a profile of some sort.

>>31629530

>Not getting kicked out for failing a bunch of APFTs.

Wanna know how I know you're a part-timer?

>>31629414
>I have six scars going around my shoulder that are obviously from an arthroscopic surgery.
If its that obvious than i guess you had no choice.

>>31629153
>I will see more action innawoods
Calm down red dawn.

>>31629152
Same here. Fucking fag shit and a lot of wasted time.

>>31604055
>>31630394

NEW

>>31630394

NEW

>>31630394

NEW

>>31630394

NEW

>>31629611
I already said I was in the national guard so yeah, nothing new. Nor do i really care what you think about part timers either cause I dont want to be in anymore anyway.

>>31629517
how do i found out about those tiny army posts?
I don't think searching "tiny army posts" in google will give me shit