/meg/

First for don't get memed into guard/reserve, go active

>>31578223
>Hurricane edition
>tfw it hits my area in Florida tomorrow morning
>im supposed to be at the gym during that time

>>31578658
Correct

Planning on joining USCG, hopefully I'd like to be a boatswain, any advice?

Who
>Four month physical
Here?

>>31579411
>Planning on joining USCG
Ya join the navy instead

>>31579557
>Four month physical
What?

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>>31579557

>>31579829
Consults, son
>muh underwear Olympics might hurt you

How the fuck do I get laid before shipping to basic?

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>>31578223
Commissioning as an 11A next year. How fucked am I?

>>31578223
that picture is fucked.

>>31580163
Lucky bastard.

What means of commissioning? (rotc, ocs, academy?)

I'm talking with my recruiter about nuclear engineering and intelligence, Pros and cons?

>>31580283
ROTC my brother

>>31580163
Shoot well pupper

>>31580284
>nuclear engineering
Dont

>>31580284
>intelligence
Yes, CTN is best

Assuming you are going enlisted navy correct?

>>31580526
Yeah. All I really know about nuke is that you want to kill yourself but you make bank, and I don't know much about intel.

>>31580590
>you make bank
Only if you get out or if you stay in for long term. If you only plan on doing your 6 and gettting out then nuke is a horrible decision unless you really like that type of work.

Intel is a job you will actually enjoy doing and has near as fast advancement and bonuses plus good prospects after you get out.

Can someone explain what the best navy jobs are for someone who doesn't know anything about the navy

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Why are enlisted men portrayed as simpletons in every movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUULFJ_I048

Its even worse when you watch any film in the 1950s, the enlisted are literally yokels with cartoon voices while the officers are just laying pipe on whatever hot actress was cast.

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>>31580644
What a job so great a million dollar athlete regrets not going for it?

https://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2016/04/21/tiger-woods-navy-seal-obsession/83341958/

>>31580718
My "is" disappeared.

I swear it was there. North Korean M00t fucked me again.

>>31580590
>Making bank as a nuke.

You've been meme'd on, son. Nukes work harder than most jobs and don't make that much more while they're in. When they're out, they have good job prospects but so do a bunch of other military jobs.

If you actually have a passion for the field, do it. If you just want money, there are better options.

>>31580679
I don't know if you've met some enlisted people
But many are as dumb as fucking rocks

>>31580679
>Laying pipe on randos as an officer instead of getting married ASAP so your spouse can manage the FRG.

It's like you don't even want to see O-4.

>>31580056
Same way you always get laid bud.

Anyone here training for CCT or PJ?
I'm moving to a new city with a free olympic sized public pool that's open year round.
Excited to swim.
The city is also way higher elevation than my current city, which helps with cardio training.

>>31580718
His dad was SF, that's where his fantasy comes from. And according to the seals he's an autistic sperg.

>>31579411
active duty coastie in bm a school, ama

>>31581299
Well, fuck

>>31581592
Mate I'm only 5'9 and don't exactly look like Brad Pitt.
Getting laid really isn't that hard.
I think most virgins are over-thinking how to get laid

>>31581570
How many gallons of cum do you chug on a daily basis?

>>31581795
ask ur dad lel

>>31581820
He said coasties chug around 40 liters, what's that in gallons.

Just got done with MEPS. Went CTN don't know if I got memed into it but man do they try and send you to nuke

>>31579411
Currently in BM a school with 3 weeks left. We're driving small boats this week and I've got orders to my second cutter. ive heard BMs in the navy dont even know how to properly moor a boat up.

>>31581892
>40 liters, what's that in gallons.
l2google

>>31582099
No I want a cum guzzling seaman to tell me

>>31582053
They force all sorts of lower enlisted from other rates to help you guys. It's one of the reasons we hate BMs.

>>31581916
>Went CTN don't know if I got memed
Not possible. Its an excellent rate not meme at all, unless you fail out then youre fucked.

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>>31580679
Well, because it's a meme, basically. up until about 1980-1984, the whole modern idea of "professional military" wasn't. The force that went in for Gulf91 was utterly and completely different than Vietnam. Even then, Gulf91 looks kinda bush league to what we fielded in GWOT. However, the media didn't really get the message, so they still carry over things they think they learned from Vietnam coverage to the modern force.

However, it's also partially true. Take a bunch of 18-25 year old dudes, force officers to cover pretty much all of their normal responsibilities except "Show up here at [time] and follow directions", then give them $1500-2000 a month plus extras. Add on top of that the bonds you make with the other guys in your unit... shit, the early days of OIF as an 11B was basically a really fucked up frat party occasionally interrupted by warfare.

>>31581744
It's not that, it's just... living at home doesn't really help getting pussy
Might try talking to a qt latina ex-coworker

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Ask an active duty Muhreen anything.

>>31582686
How many dicks do you take a week?

>>31582686
Critical Skills Operator package when?
What are you waiting for?

>>31582706
At least one per week. Usually two.

>>31582744
I'm a 5831 correctional specialist. The POG life is the life for me.

>recruiter at my HS (I'm a senior 18) asks me why I want to join.
>I say "I don't have anything better to do.

Did I fuck up?

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>>31582686
How hard is boot and the crucible? I've head everything from "very difficult" to "wasn't hard, just uncomfortable."

If I was to go in as an 0311, what's life like after boot?

>>31582761
no
every other answer to that question is a lie anyway

>>31582794
East or West coast? I'm from the East coast and bootcamp was awful. The stuff you do is pretty cool and borderline fun, but the DIs don't fuck around. I got hit pretty regularly. Not love slaps, like closed fist, in the ribs, all the time. Now with all these hazing claims it's probably much easier.

The crucible was a blur. I never had an issue humping - I can't run for shit though - so I didn't really have a problem. The last hike you stop every 3 miles or so for about 10 minutes which made it a joke. Your pack will weigh about 100 lbs though.

As far as SOI, I don't know. Combat training for POGs was about a month, and it was the most fun I had in the military. You shoot M203s and M240s and throw grenades and stuff. Super fun.

My MOS school was at Lackland AFB in Texas and the detachment was probably 40 Marines strong so you felt like you had the biggest dick there. It was so much fun. The Air Force does their basic training there and they no shit get to eat dominos, popeyes, subway, and starbucks every weekend. Every. Weekend.

>>31582860
I'm from Ct, so I'd be going to PI.

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>>31582860
Airfags got their dick's bit and their NCOs are legit terrified of their new recruits. Only branch where E-3s and below have free reign over their NCOs.

This is a fun read to understand just how fucked up the Air Force is: https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/comments/2b1t38/i_was_an_mti_from_20092014_amid_the_entire/

>>31582794
>0311
You're going to be treated like a machine and expected to perform like one. You'll do some cool shit, but it's gunna suck ass a lot of the time. You'll also make a lot of great friends.

>>31582976
Jesus fuck. I know we infantry types give the AF shit for being soft, but that is a whole different level.

Is AF culture like that after basic or do they force the new people to be actual military?

Got meps in the morning, watched some video at the hotel saying they ask for your family doctors information?

I don't even remember my doctors name. Are they going to go after that info when I get there/ try to check my records?

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>didn't grow up with my dad
>recruiter is super cool guy, more of an older brother age range than a possible dad figure.
>visited my house with some other recruits to help me out with papers, talked shit with me and other guys on the way to MEPS and back.
>He was born in the same hometown I was, very small world.
>I started copying his way of talking and acting
>went the same rate he was because of how cool he is

H-how does fraternization work after I'm already past boot. No homo, this is just my first male role model.

>>31582976
Yo, no shit that dude is in my brig. I see him daily.

>>31584521
Why does it matter? Did you lie in any way that could put other guys in danger?

Just took the asvab and am going to MEPs next week. Going into Army Intelligence.

I feel completely terrified and demoralized. How can I start feeling excited and motivated again?

>>31584641
Why do you feel demoralized?
For me, getting my physical and ASVAB results were a huge self esteem boost, same with locking my MOS at the classifier.

>>31584641
run

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>>31584521
>they ask for your family doctors information?
No they dont

>>31584621
If hes smart he did

>>31584610
What rate?
Also stop being gay, just be his friend on FB and talk thats all it could ever be anyway.

>>31584641
Jack off

>>31584657
Culture shock I'm assuming

>>31584820
>going to MEPs next week
He hasn't even done anything yet.

I'm go to basic soon. My grandpa was in the army back in the 50's and 60's. He told me when 1 person in the group fucks up, you all get punished. I'm honestly scared everyone is going to hate me when I fuck something up, which I'm sure will happen. Wut do?

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>>31578223
hello all question here ROTC, I want to serve but go into law enforcement after, stuck between MP and armor. they are my two real passions, armor is fun, As is MP for someone like me. I want to do state trooper.

>>31584864
>when they make it rain in the barracks because of you.

My recruiter was asking me a bunch of questions out of a big book he had on his desk

>have you ever done drugs, anon?
I'm not gunna lie, yeah..... I smoked pot a few times in the past....
>nothing else though, right?
No, just pot a few times with some friends a few years back
>ok, anon. That fine. Don't worry about it.

We moved on after that, but he did write something down. How fucked am I? Am I gunna get disqualified? I'm kinda scared.

>>31584989
>not answering no on each question
it's like you want to have a shit time at MEPS

>>31585008
I didn't want too lie to him and get fucked over for lying.

>>31585023
they will not know anything if you don't have it on your record when they run a quick background check

>>31585045
Goddamn.... So what now? Am I fucked?

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>>31584989
Idiot

>>31585023
>I didn't want too lie to him and get fucked over for lying.
Jesus fucking christ, is this your first time here? All we tell you idiots is
LIE
LIE
LIE
then LIE some more
They will never fucking know or ever find out.

>>31585045
Define "record" because I did get into a fight in high school. I was not arrested, and no charges were ever pressed or filed, but I did get suspended for a couple days.

>>31585079
It actually is.

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>>31578658
explain what is wrong with reserve please.

considering between the two.

if i go active navy, does that mean im at sea for 4 years or what?

>>31585045
I suppose you're an open book then if you were covered under Tricare as a kid huh?

>>31584887
MP will not help you in being a state trooper. In fact it might hurt you since you'll unlearn things
Just try for Armor

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>>31585089
>but I did get suspended for a couple days.
Jesus christ look at this hardened criminal. I cant believe youre actually worried about that. No you idiot youre fine.

>>31585117
>I suppose you're an open book then if you were covered under Tricare as a kid huh?
Probably

>>31585107
>if i go active navy, does that mean im at sea for 4 years or what?
Not necessarily. Depends on your orders/rate. If yuo do get stationed on a ship then yes you are attached to said ship for a SEA tour. The length depends on your rate. Some are only 3 years then they rotate while some are 5.
Note this is different than your enlistment length.
Where ever the ship goes, you go.

>>31585192
>different than your enlistment length
please explain this too.

i'm 23 and thinking of joining the navy. active sounds like fun, but im afraid of being an old fuck (around 30) when I come out.

If the sea tour is longer than your enlistment then you don't go back home on time?

>>31582794
>How hard is boot and the crucible? I've head everything from "very difficult" to "wasn't hard, just uncomfortable."
>If I was to go in as an 0311, what's life like after boot?

The old line about "I thought boot was hard before I got to SOI. I thought SOI was hard before I got to fleet, etc etc".

Boot camp is hard because it's all completely new and intimidating. Unless you're a complete fuckup, you'll get completely used to it in about three or four weeks.

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Does anybody know about the process of getting a security clearance. Joining army if that makes a difference

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>>31584610
My recruiter is super cool too and a great example, 2bh. PT stud, professional, knew his shit. I'm guessing not all NCOs or COs will be like him.

>>31585274
interested too here, future chair
adding to this, how long does the check take?
Does it take a while to get a TS?

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Should I go Army or Marines?
Marines it is between 0211, 0311, 0331, or go officer
Army it is 11B, 12B, 19D, 35L, 35M, or go officer.

What do?

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>>31585219
>If the sea tour is longer than your enlistment then you don't go back home on time?
No. they are separate and independent of eachother.
Whatever you enlist for is set in stone and solid. If you enlist for 4 years you are out in 4 99.99% of the time bottom line end of story.

SEA/SHORE is an order rotation. It starts once you show up to said ship. From the day you check on board to your ship your timer starts counting down till when you rotate off and choose SHORE orders. Again, the length is dependent on your rate. 3-5 years. Its like this because SEA duty, aka being on a ship, is very tough and takes a strain on family life and so on. So you cant be on it forever.

Note, some things are considered type 2 sea duty and count as SEA time but you arent on a ship all the time.

Now you actually could stay on SEA if you wanted to, you can extend and keep ship hoping and getting bonuses for it. But most people will never do this.

SHORE duty is viewed as a break basically, its usually 3 years. During that time you can be with family and get a degree easily or whatever. Then when that time is up you go back to SEA orders and choose another ship.

Note, some rate have a different rotation method. OCONUS/INCONUS.
It just matters if they are in US or outside it. So you could be on shore duty in South Korea then shore duty in California back to back cause ones out and ones in. These are usually intel rates.

Anyway, dont be afraid of being old, you get the GI bill once your out and can re-invent yourself how ever you want to once youre out. The Navys a tough but good gig. Just choose a good rate youll like and youll be fine.

>>31585232
>Boot camp is hard because it's all completely new and intimidating. Unless you're a complete fuckup, you'll get completely used to it in about three or four weeks.
This is true

>>31585325
0311 in 1/7 and I say do it faggot.

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>>31585274
Secret? They just basically do basic background/credit check. Its easy as shit.

>>31585322
>Does it take a while to get a TS?
It can yes

>>31585319
>I'm guessing not all NCOs or COs will be like him.
Bait?

>>31585325
Army, marines are a meme and thats the truth. Theres never any reason to ever join the marines.

Used to smoke a ton of pot, does this close off everything past infantry, realistically? I know that any disclosure of it would screw me on the SF86.

>>31585379
What does the basic background check include? Tfw no credit, good or bad.

>>31585374
what do you mean by in 1/7?

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>>31585452
No, just keep your mouth shut.

>>31585457
>Tfw no credit, good or bad
I had no credit as well and got a secret no problem. They assume most people, usually young, have no credit s obviously it wont hinder you. Look unless you got a serious criminal record or serious debt you'll be fine.

>>31585505
>what do you mean by in 1/7?
It doesnt matter what he means, listen to me. Dont go marines, go army.

>>31585525
What if I missed a couple student loan payments, but then paid them off?

>>31582686
What was it like when you got to your first unit ever?

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>>31585629
>What if I missed a couple student loan payments, but then paid them off?
Youre clearly already on terrorist watch list.
Suicide is only option.
Dude no one cares, you had a perfectly reasonable and understandable student loan, which is paid off. Why would that be a problem?

>>31585714
look
with all the BS ive been through at MEPS already
I wouldn't bee surprised

>>31585805
>with all the BS ive been through at MEPS already
like???

>>31585982
see
>>31579557

>>31585997
Ya for what though, whats the reason it took so long.

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>tfw 97 on the ASVAB

>>31585357
thank you for explaining this. i appreciate it.

>>31586025
Hoops anon, hoops.
>wrong kind of consult second visit
>recruiter never got told about next consult visit so getta call from my liason asking why I'm not there. Reschedule appointment
>finally finish everything on my third visit

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>>31586036
And?

>>31586053
>thank you for explaining this. i appreciate it.
Np nigger, if you got some more questions or want some more info ill be popping in and out of this thread all night.

>>31586070
>wrong kind of consult second visit
What did you need a consult for?

>>31585357
if you're onconus, what can you do when you're out of work?

like, your example of south korea for instance. there's so much free time - how do you spend it if you don't know the language?

do you have to live on ship too?

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>>31586095
>if you're onconus, what can you do when you're out of work?
You mean when the days work is done? Anything you want for the most part. Go to your room. Work out. Go out into the town. Eat and drink.

>how do you spend it if you don't know the language?
You arent the first american there obviously. Most places around bases, and in general desu have English speaking people working there and signs in English as well. Also not a bad idea to learn it if youre gonna be there for 3 years.

>do you have to live on ship too?
If youre on a ship its not OCONUS its SEA over seas. And usually no. People on ships 99% of the time get a barracks room. It aint great but its better than the ship. Once you make rank. usually E-5, you can get an apartment out in town.

>>31586165
final questions - if I haven't earned my degree yet (bachelors, earning it in December), should I hold off on applying?

i feel like the enlisted guys aren't going to put me in for officer consideration.

also, how hard is it to get to go to japan? idk why that's such a popular destination, and i hate that it's so common, but i'd like to go.

in any case, i'm hoping for an intel position. i'm graduating with a degree in forensic psych.

>>31585325
army brother basic and ocs are not bad and you get more opportunity

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I'm pretty proficient in Hindi/Urdu(was born here and parents born here or citizen) and finishing up my degree, Is it worth enlisting or will I end up painting rocks for four years? Really don't feel like going to graduate school or taking LSAT's.

>>31586284
I don't get it

Why would they put them anywhere else?

>>31586224

>i feel like the enlisted guys aren't going to put me in for officer consideration.

That's not how this works. You don't just show up and get put in a track. If you want to be an officer you apply through a different recruiter and attempt selection for officer school. It isn't just something that happens when you enlist with a degree.

Japan is popular because a lot of weebs like yourself join the military in search of adventure and waifus in the land of the rising sun.

Intel is generally fairly competitive, in every branch.

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>>31586378
The Punisher is implying that the homies hold the guns sideways and thus the sights are not properly utilized. pic related.

>>31586284

If you enlist as a cryptolinguist you will probably get to actually do your job. Most other stuff is a crapshoot.

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>>31586224
>should I hold off on applying?
For OCS?

>i feel like the enlisted guys aren't going to put me in for officer consideration.
You submit the paperwork with ADMIN you your division isnt really involved, but if your goal is to be an officer you might as well wait until December. But there are other ways to be different types of officers once in.

>also, how hard is it to get to go to japan?
Easy as fuck. Ships there are Forward deployed, means they deploy and are at sea constantly cause its so close to North Korea and China. Orders there are usually on 3 years cause its considered tough. If you wanna go theyll send you no problem.

>i'm hoping for an intel position
You mean enlisted or officer though?

>>31586437
>you will probably get to actually do your job.
Will I have the chance down the line for cool guy shit to do? any specific branch to look into?

>>31585107
>explain what is wrong with reserve please.

You're probably going to go into a fucked up unit.

Then if you want out of that unit you need to find a receiving unit willing to take you and a way to get there for drill.

If you want to go active you need to do a 368 conditional release. You need your CoC to sign it. Which they require you to be in the unit for a certain amount of time before they will. And then they still probably won't.

After a few months, or more likely while you're in TRADOC, you'll decide you want to be active duty.

>>31580590
>and I don't know much about intel.

It depends on the specific MOS or rate.

Are you looking at crypto, SIGINT, GEOINT, All Source?

>>31586448
enlisted or officer, doesn't matter.

i almost feel like enlisted would be a better choice for some reason, but I have the bachelor's so maybe I should go for officer.

>>31586411
>>31586448
again, thank you both of you for fielding my questions. i am leaning towards going active.

>>31586523
understood. thank you.

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>>31586466
>Will I have the chance down the line for cool guy shit to do?
Why dont you just do cool guy shit from the git go???
>any specific branch to look into?
Go army SF.
18x program and you can be a green beret. The language will help there. You better be in great shape though.

>>31586538
>i almost feel like enlisted would be a better choice for some reason,
Well then go enlisted and transition later to officer if you feel like it. Just choose a good rate in intel. CTN is god tier.

>i am leaning towards going active.
You better, go active and go CTN. Dont be lame, youll regret it.

If I was to go active duty 0311 in the muhreens and go innacombatzone, how tough are sand people as adversaries?

>>31582802
>every other answer to that question is a lie anyway

This.

Even if you actually do become a "true believer" by the time you get out.

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>>31586569
>Why dont you just do cool guy shit from the git go???
Just figured my language/background would pigeon hole me to a different path.
>18x program
Will I be able to get a clearance for those? I'm guess those are MOS that require some type of security clearance. I lived in other countries for several years and have family in various ones. Will that fuck me over down the road?

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>>31586628
>Just figured my language/background would pigeon hole me to a different path.
Its possible, so if you wanna be cool guy just do it from day one.
>Will I be able to get a clearance for those?
Bro youre gonna need a clearance either way. Language jobs all need clearances if im not mistaken. And yes for 18x you need a secret.
>I lived in other countries for several years and have family in various ones. Will that fuck me over down the road?
Its possible but not 100%. Secret is usually a joke and is easy as shit to get. Also the countries make a difference. If it was england or some normal place its fine, if you were in somalia or some shit than itll raise some eyebrows.

>>31586628

It's way easier to get the clearance for SOF shit than it is to get the clearance for intel shit.

I don't know why people always think coolguys get access to the spoopy stuff. They're trigger pullers.

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>>31586656
>Its possible, so if you wanna be cool guy just do it from day one.
Thats then what I should work towards. I played sports growing up and in school so now I'll think about changing my workouts.
>Also the countries make a difference
England, India, Hong Kong for the foreign ones.

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>>31586684
>India, Hong Kong
Theyll probably dig a little but youll be fine. Usually if you dont have huge debt, criminal record, or a massive amount of foreign ties youre fine.

>Thats then what I should work towards. I played sports growing up and in school so now I'll think about changing my workouts.
If you actually wanna go 18x you need to seriously decide on it. This isnt something to do on a whim. Most people spend 6months-1year preparing depending on how in shape they are. You better be strong and fast and not a pussy.

>>31586723
>Usually if you dont have huge debt, criminal record, or a massive amount of foreign ties youre fine.
None of the above.
>This isnt something to do on a whim. Most people spend 6months-1year preparing depending on how in shape they are.
No doubt. I just always thought that might be an option down the line but you and >>31586674 anon are saying its a waste of time to try and backdoor into that type of stuff. I'm in ok, I play sports around campus and workout but I would need 6-9mo, if not longer to seriously prepare for something like taking on an 18x contract. I appreciate you anons info and tips.

>>31584864
>He told me when 1 person in the group fucks up, you all get punished.

Yep. Usually only a TRADOC thing, but units can get stupid about collective punishment as well.

>I'm honestly scared everyone is going to hate me when I fuck something up,

Collective punishment doesn't usually happen because you don't know how to do something or otherwise something is out of your control etc.

It happens when you're a shit bag and you do something that you were explicitly told not to do by the kill hats, you're in general a shit bag and don't wake up for fire guard or don't make sure the next shift is awake, get caught trying to skate etc.

>which I'm sure will happen. Wut do?

Don't be a shit bag. Collective punishment is going to happen, you're going to get smoked (they started calling it CAPEing, Corrective Action through Physical Exercise, a couple of years ago), just do what you're told and learn.

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>>31586753
>be an option down the line
Again though why wait? Go for the gold from day one.

Army SF are a great community, fast advancement, bonuses for enlistment and retention, tons of schools and funding.

Just make sure youre physically ready and go for it senpai.

>>31585274
>Does anybody know about the process of getting a security clearance. Joining army if that makes a difference
>>31585322

You fill out an SF86 while you're at MEPS.

You won't find out anything unless something comes up. You'll go through basic, get to AIT, and then different things can happen. I had an issue with a past employer (I walked out, they said I was fired) and the investigator showed up to my company at Huachuca to ask about it and it was never an issue again (for TS/SCI). One of the guys in a class a few before mine was a hold over because his clearance investigation hit a hiccup and he ended up being at the company so long waiting for his clearance (about a year when I was there) he was treated like permanent party and drove kids around to medical appointments and shit in the GSA van and worked in the company supply room.

Right, so I'm in the process of enlisting with the CG.

I feel like my recruiter is bullshitting me.

At this point, I'll either enlist as an MK, or forget all that and take a job that's really close to home and matches my original career plan perfectly.

I told him that I may end up dropping the CG altogether if I actually manage to get this job, and he chimes in with some not-quite-promises.

Apparently the CG is hurting for MKs real bad, so they're offering $5k enlistment bonuses and a guaranteed slot in A-school immediately following (or as close to as possible) boot camp. This would theoretically put me at being an E3 or or an E4 within my first year.


How likely is it that this is actually true? I'm skeptical.

>>31585325
>35L

Not an initial entry MOS anymore. Which means you need to be enlisted already in another MOS and an E4(p), or prior enlisted who just got out and can be in a position to get your E5 around the time you finish at CISAC.

>>31586466
>Will I have the chance down the line for cool guy shit to do?

This is a question with so many potential answers based on variables that you haven't even encountered yet.

It depends is the best answer.

1. Your CoC
2. How good a soldier you are (too good and unit won't want to lose you though they can't technically block you from dropping an SF packet, if you're not you won't get a chance to go to a lot of military schools like BAC, Air Assault etc.)
3. Where you are in your career
4. What your MOS actually does while deployed
5. You might not even make it through TRADOC


The safest assumption you can make is that whatever initial MOS you choose you will be doing the most boring version of that for your entire first enlistment. It might even turn out that you're good at it and it is fulfilling. I was a 19 year old dum-dum at one time and wanted to do cool guy stuff. When I got around to actually deploying and doing my job it turned out I was good at it, enjoyed it, and I was doing something far more important than living my teenage operator fantasies.

>>31586628
>I lived in other countries for several years and have family in various ones. Will that fuck me over down the road?

No. Just be honest on the SF86.

>>31585379
But Marines have the best uniform.

>>31587233

>Not realizing that 99% of your enlisted time will be spent actively avoiding putting on your dress uniform.

Nobody wears that shit unless they absolutely have to, it's expensive and fragile. Civilians get the impression that servicemembers actually wear their dress uniform because half the time civilians interact with servicemembers it is the one day a year that they're dressed up for a ball or somefuck.

>>31586893

>Apparently the CG is hurting for MKs real bad, so they're offering $5k enlistment bonuses and a guaranteed slot in A-school immediately following (or as close to as possible) boot camp. This would theoretically put me at being an E3 or or an E4 within my first year.

Doesn't sound that great, since this is pretty much the deal every other branch gets on day day of the week. A small bonus, job training right after your basic school, and E-3 within a year.

>>31581326
I would love to but I can't swim jack shit.

Any of you guys have experience taking swim classes as an adult? how'd that go? It's expensive over here ($108 for 4 private classes at a city owned pool) Not sure if worth it.

>>31587315
B-but they look cool as fuck..

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>be me
>want to join muhreens
>everytime I see videos of the confidence course it kills my mojo and I get filled with self doubt.
>knew a guy who was the biggest 4chan stereotype you could possibly imagine
>look on his FB one day
>passed boot
>mfw
>jaw hit floor so hard it ended up in the basement
Feelsbadman.jpg

Not bashing him, of course. But damn I suck.

>>31578223
Hola /meg/

pretty sure I wanna do air traffic controlling, seems like a challenging technical job without years of schooling or debt that also works in real world

could anyone give training process or tips or anything really, that would be nice

also what branch

>>31587752

Bruh, boot has a 85%+ pass rate, and a good portion of those who don't pass just quit immediately because they are literally teenagers who miss their mommies.

It isn't a selection, it isn't some great test of worthiness, it's a fitness and military etiquette crash course designed to turn pudgy civilians into halfway trainable military recruits.

Is there a chance of seeing combat in the next 4 years as 11b/0311?

>>31588261
this. far more people go AWOL once they get to their units because that's where shit starts to really get gay.

>>31588443
sure. but i was hearing about guys coming back without CIB's back in 2012

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>>31587839
I'd link you to the Navy's Air Traffic Controller rating outline webpage but ratings aren't a thing anymore, apparently.

>>31586628
18D here
I was born in Moscow. You will be fine.

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>>31586571
Less accurate than conventional soldiers

>>31588482
What do you mean "it starts to get gay"?

If my criminal records are sealed, can I just say I have never been in trouble?

I wasn't convicted of anything, the job I want doesn't require a clearance.

Yes

Unless you need TS, they won't give a shit.

>>31590266
Meant for
>>31590223

>>31590266
are you sure? I thought all arrests came up on background checks.

>>31590223
How are your records sealed?

>>31590345
I'm not sure what you mean.

Live in NYC, if that helps.

>>31590223
SO, I should just tell them and try for a waiver?

What are the best jobs in the military that don't require top secret clearence? Preferably a desk job. I don't care which branch.

>>31590223
/k/ I would like your advice on this. I know you're a slow board but it's nearly 2017, I have to get moving.

What is my best bet?

>>31590223
>>31590835
what is it that you did? honestly I doubt it'll be an issue if youre not getting a clearance if it's expunged or sealed
Though some jobs may require you to get a clearance down the line

>>31582860
Ahahaha so you were one of those marines at the 344th? I was at that tech school for 3 weeks back in march-April and most of us had no idea why the fuck marines were there. God most of us hated you guys

>>31590223
Related question, how bad would a drug charge fuck up my chances of enlisting? Gettting a commission? Acquiring clearance?
What about a DUI?

>>31590717

Computer maintenance style jobs and medical tech type jobs (NOT medic) go into civilian careers pretty well.

>>31590912

A DUI is pretty much a no-go for commissioning and usually for enlisting too. Drug charges are going to depend on when and what.

>>31590889
As a 15 year old I was convicted of Contempt for disobeying a Judge. I was dragged in front of the court by my mom with a P.I.N.S petition, basically a paper that says I'm not a good boy and she needs a Judge to assist in controlling me. The entire thing was handled in Family Court. I was sentenced to 1 year.

When I was 19 I was arrested for everything but murder when I tried to cross a bridge closed for construction into NJ. Big fight with many police officers. They took me to a hospital and I slipped out of the handcuffs and pulled out an IV (was dehydrated). Got beaten down and, technically, arrested again, inside the hospital.

Went to a nearby correctional facility for a few months, charges were dropped but I had to have these people come by my house for (((counseling))).

I'm 21 now.

>>31590922
>Computer maintenance

Do you mean something like IT in the navy? I thought that was top secret clearence as well.

>>31591026

The Navy is really the only branch that forces TS onto their IT jobs. For others it is usually something you will only get later in your career.

>>31591083
Do i have a choice whether or not i go through the process of getting top secret clearence? I really don't want the military finding shit i don't want them to find.

>>31590987
You sound like a piece of shit degenerate in general. Wal-Mart will be thrilled to have you if the military won't.

>>31591371
Can you answer my question?

>>31591371
And, why do I sound like a piece of shit?

>>31580718
>https://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2016/04/21/tiger-woods-navy-seal-obsession/83341958/

Interesting article. Never knew. No sarcasm.

>>31591171

It depends on if the job you're doing requires a Top Secret. Most jobs don't, but many of them require it later down the line in order to get into certain billets/positions. You might be perfectly fine for ten years and then come to a point in your career where not being able to get a clearance impedes your ability to get a cool assignment.

Either way, if you aren't comfortable letting the government look inside your butthole (both physically and in the sense of knowing your past), maybe don't work for the government?

>>31590987
dude what the fuck
You wont get a waiver for that, your records are checked but if it's expunged or sealed it might not pop up. If you need a clearance though they will find it.
What MOS/Rate are you interested in? You may need a clearance down the line

>>31591523
11b

>>31591410
kek are you serious? Look at all the shit you listed. Why were/are you a bad kid? Abusive parent(s)? If so I'm sorry I called you a piece of shit then.

>>31591545
my mom was a drunk senpai, she broke the family into pieces. I just didn't want to go home.

the bridge thing- I was homeless. Me and father had a big fight, we never fight but this was bad. Ran away. The city is a bad place for actually falling asleep at night so I tried to Solid Snake across the George Washington Bridge. Thought I would be able to live better in NJ. The cops grabbed me- probably because I was a suicide risk or potential terrorist- and I resisted without thinking. In the hospital I was falling unconscious and my hand was numb from cuffs. I just wanted to turn the light off in the hospital room.

tldr good boy didn't do nuthing

>>31591529
you might need one down the line, are you planning on staying in or just doing a few?

>>31591627
>I tried to solid snake across the GWB
Jesus, anon. A for effort I'll give you that. Hopefully you get shit back on track
>resisting arrest from NYPD
Kek

>>31591656
probably stay in for a while.

If I'm able to serve for a few years and a clearance come up, I would disclose everything. Hopefully the service I had given up to that point would show my character.

Say I want to join the military but have lots of very obvious self-harm scars.

Does that disqualify me if I have no record of any mental health problems and lie about how I got them?

>>31591728
If you got fields of raked farmland on your arms, you will have a hard time lying about it. The doc at MEPS will end up sending you to a psychiatrist for an evaluation.

>>31591773
Can I just lie to the psychiatrist?

I'm going to the Air Force Academy next year, I'll have my Helicopter CPL by the end of 2016, hopefully.

Will I be stuck doing desk work as a CO?

And no, I'm not underage.

>>31591450
Okay, thanks. I don't mind missing out on some cool shit.

>if you aren't comfortable letting the government look inside your butthole (both physically and in the sense of knowing your past), maybe don't work for the government?

Its not because i have a shady past or anything. I don't want them finding my medical records and learning that i lied my ass off. I have 2 medical conditions i need waivered and theres no way in hell there letting me in to a downsized military. There just looking for reasons not to let me in.

>>31591936

Medical records usually aren't a big part of clearance investigations. There are VERY few conditions that can medically disqualify someone from a clearance.

>>31591781

How do you envision that going down, anon? Shrinks know what cutting scar look like.

>>31592062
So does that mean I'm fucked even if I do lie to everyone about it?

>>31592050
Okay, say i sign up for CTN in the navy, or i suddenly require tsc in a rate im already in. They send a investigator to talk to people i know and someone says that i have asthma that i never disclosed. What happens then? Do they kick me out?

>>31592172

Why would a clearance investigator care about asthma? That isn't a disqualifying condition for a clearance, just for the military.

>>31592062
I have a couple of scars that look like self harm, but I got them from getting hooked on 2 nails at an airsoft field I was playing at. They gashed me pretty bad. I also have scars from getting shot, falling in woods, and stuff from various other physical activities. Am I gunna be fucked?

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>>31592265
No

>>31592050
>>31592221
This nigga gets it
>>31592172
Dude you gotta realize TS clearances relate to you giving info to foreigners and shit like that. Why the fuck would they care about medical history. They are trying to make sure you are a spy not that you had childhood asthma.

>>31592221
I was told that finding out you lied about your medical records by an investigator was disqualifing and would get you discharged. I guess i was told wrong information.

>>31592265
Just tell them what happened it they ask. As long as the story doesn't sound like bs, you'll be alright. Pics of scars if possible?

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>>31592331
Here's the ones on my hands. Most of them look like this.

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>>31592375
These are the ones where I got hooked on the nails.
>be in doorway
>teammate is next to me squishing me into door frame
>Grenade comes rolling around corner
>turn to my left and go muzzle up to avoid flagging teammates
>Schlick
>folded over nails in door dig into skin
>adrenaline makes me not feel it
>rips right through me
>see blood dripping down arm and into handguards
>fuck.jpg
>keep playing like a faggot
>didn't go to dr, prob needed stitches.

>>31592500
That's alright, I have a scar on my face that I didn't need to see a doctor for

>>31592079
I think you'd be better off being honest if they're as obvious as you say they are. Just say you're over it and doesn't affect you anymore.

MEPS will definitely refer you to a psychiatrist either way. Who will send a report to MEPS, then MEPS will determine if you're DQ'd or not. If you're DQ'd, a waiver could be a last shot. With peacetime and a lot of downsizing going on, the military is picky. If I remember correctly, clinical depression (in the last 6 years I think) and suicidal thoughts (at any point in life) are instant-DQ.

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Active Duty AF fag here 2w051 (munitions)

Thinking about switching branches to the Army using the Blue to Green program but the army recruiter in my area told me they would most likely stick me with Ordinance instead of allowing me to cross train into 91F (small arms/artillery repair) like I want to. Just made E5 this year so im weighing my options about staying in the AF or trying to get into the BtG program.
what does /k/ recommend?

>>31591834
Can someone answer this. I really don't know much about the military. I committed because I like guns, aircraft, and math.

>>31591834
They need pilots and I'm sure theyll still need them in 4 years
Do good and youll be more likely to get them
Most slots for pilots do go to the academy after all

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>>31593649
Thanks, can't wait to kill some mudslimes who'd want me in a Burka.

>>31578658

>live on a trailer park military base
or
>live where you want to

>get forced to move every 3 years
or
>move when you want to

>take online classes at AMU
or
>go to a real school

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I ship out in november but revently got into a car wreck and broke my nose and im on painkillers BUT they gave me a prescription thing so that if it shows up in a drug test ill be ok will a broken nose and a painkiller prescription get me delayed at all?

>pic related my truck and what happens when u get tboned by a cement mixer

>>31585107
>>31586523

Navy Reserve works a little differently, it tends to be a lot more flexible when it comes to things like that. The downside compared to other reserve branches is that it's easy to get stuck at a drill site where there is literally nothing to do, and requires travel to actually get to work. The travel can be fantastic, though.

>>31593837

>Get pay and benefits then retire at 40

Or

>Work at Subway until you die.

Let's not pretend most reservists make anything of themselves after college.

>>31594024
Good job coming out with just a broken nose

>>31594119

>Retire at 4
>then work at Subway because you wasted half of your working life supervising rock washers

FTFY

>>31594024

You don't have a choice, report it before you pop and they think you love heroin.

>>31589992
It get gay

>>31594242
How long until urinanalysis come to the mail after MEPS, if you failed the drug test?

>>31593649
One other question, if you don't mind. How can I avoid being placed in a wing with black people? I've read a lot about sexual assault in the military, and without fail, a nig is behind every case that goes public.

As someone who has lived in Colorado their entire life, I have absolutely no frame of reference for hot weather. I'm going to Air Force basic training in February. Does Lackland still got hot even in the winter?

>>31594273

>he didn't just postpone going to MEPS

I swear that initial drug test is done purely to weed out absolute morons.

>>31589992
basic/boot are nothing compared to the abuse you're going to suffer at the hands of the people you're going to be going into combat with. you kind of fall through the cracks a bit in initial training -- if you can just avoid fucking up in a way that draws attention to yourself, you can get away with a lot of shit.

not so much when you get to your unit. you are going to be expected to know everything from 9-lines to cyclic rates of fire on all weapons systems and everything in between. that's if your unit's any good, anyway.

a lot of people expect basic to be the hard part but for infantry dicks, that's 99% of the time not the case.

also FTX, 26 mile rucks monthly, etc.

>>31594119
>>31594158

>Choose a job where you learn a real skill such as HVAC, or metal working
>DD214 at 40
>Use the trade you've done for 20+ years to get a good paying job
>retire at 68. Collect your benefits, and money from your primary retirement plan (401k, Roth IRA, etc. You did have one of these right?)
>spend time with grandchildren. Be the gun toting grandpa

>>31594286
I don't know anything about shit that specific. No idea how housing would work or anything like that.
Maybe there's a facebook group for AFA incoming cadets and you might find some roommates if they even let you pick

>>31594286
you're probably not good looking enough for anyone to want to rape anyway, so don't worry.

if it has to be stated, however, there is no way to avoid black people except going into a combat job. there are no blacks in jobs which are actually dangerous

>>31594362

>only options are trade jobs
>50 year old active vet with blown out knees forced to kneel down and rewire someone's entertainment system through drywall

I'm sure spending 10 years at Fort Methhead was worth it, though.

>>31594367
We have to go through a shortened basic first, but that's only for a month. I know housing there will be gender segregated, but some she-boon dyke could still cause trouble. After that, the housing is co-ed, but you can choose your roomate and live off campus after the first year.

>>31594396
>Implying basketball-americans dont muh-dik anything that moves
I am 100% certain that some affirmative actioned coon will do something uncivilized towards me. The whole reason that I got into firearms was after a darkie pinned me to the floor and groped me at a party in high school. He was *SHOCKER* literally the only coon in my class.

>>31594403
>Blown out knees

So disability on top of retirement? You don't even need to work at that point.

>>31594490

>proud of being on welfare

>>31594403
>>31594490

The true benefit of the military is recognizing the opportunity to accrue skills and expertise that translate into the civilian market while also getting paid generously to learn/exercise them. The "wars" are winding down for now and any new arrivals who are smart would recognize those facts and pick a non-combat job.

Every year you spend in the active military is a year that you're not doing anything in the civilian sector. People should be using that time wisely. Nobody can realistically retire at 40 without having assloads of money, and disability isnt going to feed families

>>31594538

I bet you refuse to drive on the roads your taxes pay for too.

Disabled retirees dump a ton of money and usually most of their adult lives into the system. They should extract every penny back out that they are due.

>>31594612

>Nobody can retire at 40

The fuckton of Americans living on less than retired military wages would disagree with you.

You won't be maintaining a middle class lifestyle for a family of four, but you can definitely live comfortably.

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>>31594662
>You won't be maintaining a middle class lifestyle for a family of four
>I actively choose not to establish a stable financial situation for my children, grandchildren, or retirement

Just fucking stay poor.

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>>31594127
Yeah people are telling me its a lot of things like god karma and dumb luck but whatever it was im happy i walked off with what i had

>>31594184
So as long as i give them the details of the situation and stuff i shouldnt be delayed at all?

>>31594903
>hurricane condition 1 at JBC
fuck me

>>31594920
And fuck, didnt mean to respond

>>31594903
Jesus

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Italy is some shit. I gotta get used to this place

>>31585374
I'm sorry for your loss. The stumps are awful

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What's Air Force Security Forces like?
Thinking about joining

>>31598586
> Security Forces

why

>>31598586
Stand at checkpoints all day looking at IDs.

>>31598607
>>31598608
I mean, come on. That can't be all they do?
Are you guys SF?

>>31598608
>Stand at checkpoints all day looking at IDs.


and the ever growing desire to off yourself

>>31594313
>implying I didn't take the time weeks prior to get clean

You still haven't answered my question.

Navy or AF for intel? Kinda wanted to go Army but I screwed myself out of that.

>>31599717
Whatever you do if they don't have a record of you being offed by the Army, don't mention it,

>>31599717

One of my friends got AF intel at Hurlburt, pretty fucking jelly.

Especially since I just do weapon test and fly a desk most of the time while he does downrange operational shit.

>>31599802
I've posted here once or twice about it, basically I was a retard years ago and didn't lie about my medical conditions which earned me a disqualification. I decided to test the waters again a couple of weeks back, Army spotted me right away but apparently the Marines didn't see anything. I definitely won't be saying anything to the AF or Navy.

>>31599808
I was leaning towards the Navy but I'm not sure I want to spend a lot of time at sea.

>>31599890

It's kinda overplayed on /meg/, but if you want an intel job in the Navy and never want to see a boat, CTN will get you there.

fucking pogues :^)

>>31591728
you're out immediately my dude.
I had a fucking tiny little scratch papercut near my wirst since I stock boxes for hours at a time. The doctor at meps was lining us up for the duckwalk and all that shit at meps, and she got a look at my arm from like 15 feet away, ran right up to me, grabbed my arm out and looked at it real close, then went back to instructing us on how to do the physical test thing.

One guy had a mole or something on his neck, he got pulled to the side since that wasn't listed on his medical sheet.

>>31600019
when i went into meps in 2008 i was 20 pounds underweight for my height, long stringy unwashed hair all the way down my back and nobody looked at me twice. it was a "look left and cough" affair then i was off to basic with a $36k signing bonus. funny how times change

>>31600060
well its peacetime.
My recruiters weren't giving out waivers for anything, they would not drive anyone that scored under 50 on the asvab practice test, if you looked overweight, you're out of the building and they wont talk to you until you look relatively in shape and healthy.

Any older enlistees here? It's hard to imagine anyone past the age of 28 these days not getting DQ'd instantly from the medical bangups that tend to accumulate.

>>31600290
if you're in good shape, there's no reason you shouldn't be eligible. there is """""ageism""""" as with many other youth-focused vocations, but the army is -- in theory -- a pretty strict meritocracy. if you can convince a recruiter by virtue of your physical shape and ASVAB scores that you would be worth shuttling over to MEPS, there's no reason he wouldn't. just don't shuffle in overweight, slovenly, smelling like beer and score worse than a highschool dropout on your ASVAB. that would have worked during the troop surge but it probably doesn't anymore, like the poster right above you said.

>>31600290
My friend joined the Army at 36 and became a 68W that deployed to Afghanistan. He was stationed in Germany and said he really enjoyed it, had fun traveling and getting drunk with Germans according to him.

>>31600466
actually, don't sweat too much on scoring higher than a highschool dropout. this highschool dropout scored higher than 99% of you anyway :^)

How do the investigators find interviewees for security clearances? Is it from what you give them or do they delve into your life themselves?

>>31600600
Yes

>>31600600
when i was in, i was supposed to have a secret security clearance. i never had to get interviewed, nobody ever brought me in to ask a single question, and when i asked about it at the S shop out of curiosity, they told me most people just got interim clearances without any check at all. this was back in '09 so YMMV

>>31582053
>ive heard BMs in the navy dont even know how to properly moor a boat up.
You would be right, they don't moor boats, they moor ships.

>>31581916
CTN is the best rate in the Navy if you never ever want to see a ship, which you shouldn't. Ship life blows.

Also, you guys realize the Navy doesn't have rates anymore, right? Kek, we are all Petty Officers now.

>>31600600
Depends on the clearance.

I don't think anybody even got interviewed when I got put in for my secret.

TS isn't a joke though, they do sit down interviews with people on your list and you. They're not going to track down people unless they have a reason to, or they'll just kick your shit back.

>>31600705
the biggest things for security clearances are as follows:
>don't be a radical of any denomination
>don't have established ties with radicals of any denomination
>don't be in debt
>don't have skeletons in your closet that you lied about in MEPS, because chances are if they want to find them, they will

>>31600705
My worry is that I literally haven't had friends since high school and that they might think I'm hiding something when I'm just a sperg.

>>31600713
Pretty much, I just put in for my TS and I've got no worries.

Basically if you grew up middle class with no police record you should be fine. There's a lot of info you aren't even required to list if it's before you were 18. Even debt isn't a deal breaker if it's not too bad.

Just don't lie about anything.

>>31600713
>>don't have skeletons in your closet that you lied about in MEPS, because chances are if they want to find them, they will
Well I was pretty much planning on lying my way through MEPS so I better look for another rating.

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Which branch is the best to fly for? Which is the most likely to accept a pilot candidate? How does one maximize their chances? Is a middle class tradesman life worth potentially risking for the sake of flying?

>>31582860

>The Air Force does their basic training there and they no shit get to eat dominos, popeyes, subway, and starbucks every weekend.

look, you can make fun of the Air Force all you want, but don't out right fucking lie. You don't need to do that shit.

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>>31600904
is that what your daddy slaps your sack with when he gets a little drunk?

Posted this in the last MEG but got no replies.

I'm looking to write an independent paper about national security. Any kommandos here in intelligence/analysis? Any pointers would be appreciated, I have no idea where to start.

>>31600925
yeah? what about national security? that's like saying you want to write an independent paper about cows. what about cows? what does their shit smell like? are they actually fucking retarded or are they just pretending?

>>31600936
Not a U.S. fag, was just looking for some pointers to get started with. Have no idea how it should look.

>>31600960
where you get started is finding an aspect of national security that interests you. it's such a ludicrously broad subject covering so many different facets that it's almost a non-sequiteur to just state "national security." anti-terrorism, counter-insurgency, cyber-warfare; the list goes on.

>>31600977
Oops, neglected to post this in the OP. I thought I did, and I thought you were taking the piss lmao. It's concerning vulnerabilities to terrorism regarding public transport.

What I'm thinking is this:
>general info about current capabilities
>info about obsolescence

But I have no idea how to go about it. It seems almost too big a project - all I have is an observation about the vulnerabilities that are present in a train track line that is too long, and that some stations are too big for the amount of personnel they have (the train is vital to the country's economy, so we have armed patrols guarding stations and taking the trains at intervals).

Do I have to come up with the budget, etc.? I don't know how the paper should look.

>>31601012
this is where my service to you ends. i was infantry :^)

good luck though

Heard one of the recruiters at my DEP meeting the other day mention that one of the futures got his ship date pushed back because his security clearance hadn't gone through yet. Is that something that happens a lot? I'm supposed to ship in December and I've already been waiting 9 months, I really don't want to wait longer. How will I know before December?

>>31600908
It's what I whip fuckboys who aren't sappers with

>>31592050
Are there any jobs that test spinal fluid for lsd?

>>31601060
fuck a sapper lil nigga

>>31601026
Motherfucker, you baited me LMAO. That said, I would appreciate any intelligence/defense analyst fags pointing me in the right direction.

>>31601034
Not really unless it's an MOS that requires you to have a security clearance. Even then they usually ship guys and leave them in limbo at AIT while the investigation concludes.

>>31592500
If they say anything, just tell them what happened. Act it out if you need to.

>>31594273
I really want a legit answer to this so bump

So, how much debt is too much debt when trying to enlist? Because I've got ~600 bucks of student loans I haven't been able to pay.

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>>31600752
Please

>>31601216
they're looking for enough debt that would make you vulnerable to people leveraging you over it. $600 isn't jack shit

>>31601229
Oh. Good then. Then I'm not gonna be worried. I've got enough shit to deal with getting a tattoo waived. All I want to do is EOD man. Just let me poke IEDs with a stick Mr. Sgt. Recruiterman.

>>31601251
Sadly unless you deploy than the engineers follow stupidly complex protocol.

>>31598586
don't

>>31601034
Yes, they're backlogged right now, TS or S?

Not enough people to do interviews and investigate and shit. Not to mention there was a breach last year and all the people's data got leaked.

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>>31602302
>Not to mention there was a breach last year and all the people's data got leaked.

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I'm a fat pseudo-intellectual with a chip on his shoulder.

I hate running a whole lot and love whining instead of actually fixing an issue.

Which military branch would be best for me?

>>31602656
National guard.

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>>31602838
Which branch?

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>>31600925
Bump. An answer would be appreciated. Is nobody in here intelligence?

>>31601251

EOD is overmanned as fuck, enjoy doing nothing if you're one of the few who makes it through school.

>>31603138

You aren't looking for someone in intel. Even if you were, spamming 4chan is a shit way to do research for your term paper.

Military analysts don't generally do domestic terrorism prevention. That's federal law enforcement. You want to talk to cops.

>>31603138
Everyone in intelligence is smart enough to not speak about their job.

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At 11 years old I brought in a knife to my school and was arrested for it. Should I get it expunged, and should I worry?

>>31603224
You didn't get it expunged? lmaoing@u
What did you get charged with

>>31603238
Bringing a knife to school and the knife itself being illegal to carry.

>>31603243
SAVE A LIFE

BIN THAT KNIFE

>>31603224
What branch? Army doesn't give a shit. Air force might. Marines aslong as you aren't a serial killer you're good.

>>31603322
I plan on joining the Army, so I guess that would make me good to go...?

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Do you think they check chat logs for things like the coast guard chat with a recruiter online thing when you enlist?

I'm currently a junior in high school taking only college classes and I want to become a military psychologist in the reserves. How do I go about it without getting cucked halfway through. I don't want to go active cause I have to get a PH.D

>>31603463
I...must...say...it...

Unde-....under....

UNDERAGE BANNED

>>31603463

Get doctorate, talk to the DOD about a civilian job after. What's so complicated? You don't even need to join the military for this.

>>31603650
Well, I want the benefits plus I want to be an officer. And I don't have the money to just pay for a doctorate program but the military does.

>>31603525
rip me

>>31603687
Most PhD programs are funded through grants and fellowships along with working as a TA. Very rarely do STEM majors pay for PhD programs

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Is it true that "banter" is banned in the military now?

I expected the MOSs with too many females would be anti-banter, but combat arms should be safe, right? I can say "grab her by the pussy" and not end up wasting my time standing in front of a midget 1SG, right?

>>31603760
Yea but I still have undergrad fees of ~$15,000 - $20,000 to start at my local university even after all the scholarships and money I have saved I'll be in debt and have ~$50,000 to pay for my doctorate. Should I go ROTC-->SMP-->USAR-->PH.D?

>>31603687
The military lets you repay a medical doctorate with active service. How do you envision doing that as a reservist?

try not to get anything blown off protecting the banks

>>31603900
From what I know they will pay for most if not the all of it through REAP, GI bill, and a couple other programs if I am in the reserves but I could be wrong.

>>31603936
>Implying that anyone in 2016 is joining for reasons other than the pay and bennies.

>>31603858
Community college dood
So much fun best 2 years of my life so far. Going to a 4 year after just made me think of the day of the rope

>>31603953

So you're not really wanting them to pay for a psych degree specifically, you just want college money for your goals. Just commission into whatever as a reservist and use your benefits to work on college. The military doesn't need to know what you're going to grad school for unless you're actually going to use it for them.

>>31603971
I'm already at one they are hella good and I'm working towards my A.A so I can cut some expenses but I want to go to UF for their ROTC program plus its a good school.
>>31603988
Well I am going to use it for them but that sounds good

>>31604055
>>31604055
>>31604055

>>31601132
>>31602302
I need a TS unfortunately.... My understanding was that they would ship you to basic and then make you wait around, I haven't ever heard of a ship date being pushed back before. I also did an interview with an investigator like 2 or 3 months ago (can't remember exactly when) already.

>>31602030
Stupidly complex is dumb.

>>31603191
Is there a less overmanned MOS where I could play with explosives?