/akg/ AK General

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>>30959409
Should have made it IO edition. For those who have missed the fun:

https://youtu.be/_Kv0Q9GI43w
https://youtu.be/AyNHQ_yIFs0
https://youtu.be/FcTRirjTBkA

It has come to our attention that a so called "torture test" was performed with our firearm by an internet blogger. The test started by the blogger hiding behind the actual shooter of our firearm while he was wearing ornamental "safety gear." So it is very plain to see the implied intention of the individual conducting the tests. To add, there are a lot of derogatory comments made about our product. So the so called neutral test was maybe not so neutral at all.

We at Inter Ordnance manufacture a quality product and we guarantee our veteran made firearms for life. Unlike certain bloggers who call themselves experts, and have a certain agenda, we actually have graduated engineers working for us who are true professionals. We have communicated directly with this individual to provide assistance and to request that he send the product back to us for inspection by our engineering team. He has denied our request to send the rifle in to verify the true cause of his problem with our product.

At our manufacturing plant we have test facilities equipped with Rockwell hardness testers and magnetic particle inspection equipment to ensure that there are no flaws or cracks in our material. Our firearms are made to the true polish military blueprints and we have many rifles at our manufacturing plant which have in excess of 10,000rds fired through them.

A test by a renowned independent gun writer team with our firearms is being conducted and a report will be published as soon as it becomes available.

We at Inter Ordnance guarantee the quality workmanship and longevity for each product. We have you covered for life.

We appreciate your business and look forward to welcoming you to our ever growing Inter Ordnance family.

Rob's Response: https://youtu.be/6ix-gdXKmLY

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>>30959409

>>30959517
I want to suppress my SLR106.

>>30959499
I thought about it.
But giving them attention, even though it's bad, shouldn't be a thing.
They need to die like the shitty AK shaped time bombs they make.

Hadn't seen that BobSled had replied though. Great stuff

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>>30959569
>BobSled
kek

I like how IO thinks an excess of 10,000 rounds is an accomplishment

Caught this ban trying to post

I've never dealt with IO build quality, but have I have dealt with Royal tiger, which back then was the retail and import division of IO (I don't know the relation to current IO. I doubt it has changd)

People, myself included, got fucked in the ass by them for buying supposedly excellent condition surplus guns. Turns out parts were missing or replaced with shit, took about a week to get a hold of a rep through direct mail since they didn't answer through any of their listed numbers or emails, and some people never got a refund (I didn't get a refund for over night shipping)

If they couldn't even do basic inspection on guns they imported, I wouldn't trust the quality control on shit they make themselves.

>>30960127
I think it's still the same association. It's the only place where I've seen IO guns other than AKs for sale.

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xth for rpk never

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>>30960363
Hey, you can always get that C-39 abortion for $1200.

>>30960377
i'm getting that desperate

>>30959409
Seling my Mini Draco

Quick question: can someone tell me the exact barrel length of a Krink barrel? I've seen everything from 8.1" to 8.5". Also, I'd prefer a measurement in metric, ideally.

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>>30960377
The weird bi-pod on the c39 makes me want to throw up. And it doesn't tuck in proper so I bet it's front heavy as all hell whether the bi-pod is folded in or not.
IDK why they can't just take the final extra steps when they made them.
And I like having the folder stock on my rpk, but the sling point positions leave a lot to be desired compared to yours. Those extra few inches make a big difference if you ever sling it over your shoulder and want it to feel balanced.

>>30960377
>>30960486
build details?

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>>30960420
You're not, trust me.
>>30960486
>The weird bi-pod on the c39 makes me want to throw up
The whole rifle makes me want to vomit, that wonkity-ass bipod just being one of many things wrong with it. I'm pretty sure it's made with the same shitty components that were found in the first iteration of the C-39, too.
>the sling point positions
I think I've slung mine exactly once, and that's when I took it on a hog hunt. Otherwise, I just haul it via rifle-carry or, sparingly, using the carrying grip. I really doubt the sturdiness of that thing when you've got a 75 round drum of 7.62x39 racked in.

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>>30959517
U/F master race represent!

>>30960573
It's an AES-10b, Cugir made them once upon a time.

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>>30959409
are we abomination edition?

>>30959499
I hadn't seen the letter, glad to see the company stands by their products.

>>30960606
the real abomination is that walther knock off

nice dubs btw

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>>30959499
>those videos
>that damage controlling email put out by I.O.
>they have the absolute fucking gall to say their AKs are better than Arsenal's.

Shit like this makes me glad I sprung for an SLR-107.

Even if it meant having to roll the dice on possibly getting a melty finish, it's better than having my action sieze or my locking lugs shear off. I literally hope I.O. goes bankrupt when people stop buying their shitty products.

>>30960356

I have the weirdest boner.

>>30960576
I have an AES-10b and I'm wondering how do you like the top load mags compared to the rear load "definitely not a toy" mags? I like my rear loading ones, but my friend always gives me shit for them. Also, the toploaders are the ones the military uses, so there's that, but I feel like they'd be harder to load. I do like their angle more though.

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Finally got my 104, waiting until I get paid to pick up a triangle folder and some wood furniture. Sort of want to try to find a decent CL brake too.

>>30961170
Just rit-dye the furniture black

>>30959499
>We at Inter Ordnance manufacture a quality product and we guarantee our veteran made firearms for life.

>veteran made

How are the former careers of their employees relevant?

>>30961324
Because only military and former military should ever touch guns?

>>30961324
Anything to move a product.

>>30960363
>>30960377
>>30960420
Go with a Yugo build if you're THAT desperate
Those things were built to last

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>>30960911
I have one of each, both Romanian. Don't get me wrong, the new production rear-loader is solid as hell and has not given me a single issue. However, I'm partial to the top-loader for a number of reasons. One, it's authentic. Two, I find the top-loading to be easier than loading from the rear. Three, I think it just looks better. I think you can still get these surplus RPK drums for about $100-$120.

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>>30961693
Wow, not the pic I chose to upload at all, but aight.

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>>30959499

Rock Island has 4 Polytechs in their next auction

>>30961693
>undertale
The fuck is wrong with you

>>30961804
You haven't even begun to see my power level.

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>>30961831
Not him but oh dear god

>>30961750
lol, I caught that too

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>>30961885
Fite me.

>>30961708
Hmm. I just have a hard time justifying the price. Also I alreadt own 4 of the rear loaders. I am partial to the aesthetics/authenticity of the top losder though. I thought it would be very hard to load due to spring tension.

>>30961989
Naw, the lever works fine to the very end of loading. If I were you, I'd just cough up for one surplus drum, if only for photos.

>>30962015
I probably will. Just not now seeing as I just bought a Coonan.

>>30961936
Asking just to clarify: is the "GOAT" Satan or "Goat-Mom"? Honestly no clue which is worse

Was posting in the last thread, looking for a replacement, no thumb hole, stock for a slant cut Vepr. Not a lot of luck on answers, outside of using an adapter.

Did some more looking, and I found an option from one mfg:

>http://www.cncwarrior.com/VEPR-Sidefolder-p/25366.htm

Probably not a real common question, but since I found at least once answer, figured I'd post it.

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>>30962113
> is the "GOAT" Satan
Depends on your point of view.

>>30961628
y-you first and let me know how it goes

>>30962145
dude what the fuck go to bed
cleanse you mind from this shit
drink bleach

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>>30962200
No.

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>>30962224
torial doesn't seem well of lately..

>>30962200
not that anon but I could probably safely drink bleach at this rate, I use paint striper on boats without gloves bleach without gloves and other chems, like pesticides at a tree nursery and herbicides. all the Guatemalans wore masks I didn't.

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>>30962351
>I could probably safely drink bleach at this rate

There's only one way to find out!

>>30961294

I'll be keeping it around in case I want to do that in the future, but I really want a triangle folder and wood handguards specifically.

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Finally back from the builder. I'm pretty happy with it, but now I need it coated. Anybody have any suggestions?

Also, my camera is shit, and I'm about to go to a party, so I can't take any more pictures today and I won't be able to answer any questions about it for a few hours.

>>30962416
have fun at the party. i might masturbate to your granite countertop. I couldn't afford granite so I had to get man made shit and I hate it.

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>>30959499
>certain bloggers (in contrast to) graduated engineers
I guess the test is somehow illegitimate because it was done by a blogger

>We have communicated directly with this individual to request that he send the product back to us for inspection by our engineering team
Very clever. Try to take the rifle away from him instead of seeing how far he could go with it, then sending him a actual rifle.

>veteran made firearms
Irrelevant and don't be one of those faggots that hide behind veteran status

>Rockwell hardness testers and magnetic particle inspection equipment to ensure that there are no flaws or cracks
The issue has nothing to do with cracks or hardness so your 'engineering team' may need to hit the books again if they can't figure that out

>neutral test was maybe not so neutral at all
All he did was shoot it lol

>so called "torture test"
I don't think you realize how short you just sold yourself there

>renowned independent gun writer team
Let me guess, they work for a magazine and we all know how gun magazines love to be honest about how shitty a firearm is

>>30962170
Will do.
>>30962416
Looks nice. How much did it run you?

>>30962416

Why do I have such a boner for those molot 45 rounders? I need to grab some.

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A new Israeli version of the ak. The ak alfa

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>>30962143
>sidefolder

Why does living in California hurt so much

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/russian-rak-ak47-classic-detail.html?Itemid=0

anyone tried one these? wondering if they're quality, because that price tag is hefty.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/petronov-arms-ak47-red-wood-detail.html?Itemid=0

this one looks decent, but Petronov Arms are an unknown to me

>>30962678

Because the people that keep getting elected hate gun owners.

>>30962678

Another Vepr-fitting fun bit I found, in stock:

>http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/compensators/ak-47-flash-hider-compensator-prod26729.aspx

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>IWI said the tooling for OG Galils doesn't exist anymore so the chance of IWI ever making original Galils along with the Galil Ace series is zero

>>30962742

They can't even stop dragging ass with the 5.56 and .308 ACE models. You know, the ones everyone wanted instead of 7.62x39? Why on earth would you ever expect 1) that they'd deliver them in any timely manner 2) that the ATF would ever again approve the import of something IWI intends to convert into a scary black rifle?

>>30963106
Because Jews love money and they're missing out on a chance to make it.
However you're right the ATF would make it hell trying to get it back up.

>>30963146

Honestly I wouldn't expect the ATF to let anything new in until next year, depending on the election, if ever again. Keep in mind all they have to do is deny an application for literally any bullshit reason (read: no reason at all) and force the company to resubmit over and over and over again until an EO comes down that cuts off import of "sporting" rifles if the company intends to convert them to rifles that otherwise couldn't be imported before selling them. Just like 922r was written in part because people would just bring in otherwise illegal to import weapons as parts and assemble them here.

That's how it's going to go. They don't have to enact an AWB, they can just flip a switch and shut the whole machine down.

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>something about waking up with an AK next to you

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Hey guys, new to AK's. Bought myself an Npap not too long ago, didn't like the original stock, so I bought an ACE Stock with a folding mechanism and general adapter second hand.

After removing the wood stock, I see that I can not get the adapter in place, even if I dremel it. What is the best option from here?
Do I buy a

http://www.krebscustom.com/products/21/Krebs-Custom-Adapter-Block-for-Yugoslavian-Rifles

OR

http://riflestocks.com/store/a515.html#35

Any help would be appreciated.

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Are VEPR adjustable rear sights shit? They are only like $20 where as regular RPK sights are $50-75.

>>30963525
the ACE one. Specifically compatible with the ACE stock and hinge.

>>30963557
>Are VEPR adjustable rear sights shit? They are only like $20 where as regular RPK sights are $50-75.

Post some links to what you're comparing.

>>30963647

can't find the links I was looking at but here are the sights.

http://russtock.com/product?id=266

http://www.k-var.com/shop/RPK-020.html

What's the akg general consensus on the PSA rifles? I'm awful tempted to pick one up for a first ak pattern rifle, as they're only about an hour drive away from me.

>>30961170

The fixed stock SLR's have a bulgarian chrome lined brake.

>>30963881
We'll have a better idea once Rob finishes his test. They've apparently used better parts for Gen 2.

DDI is a shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUaHns_4bKI&spfreload=10

>>30963918
That video proves it.

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>>30962457
>>renowned independent gun writer team
>Let me guess, they work for a magazine and we all know how gun magazines love to be honest about how shitty a firearm is

Pic related

>>30963525
I have the Krebs one on my OPAP and would recommend it over any other Yugo stock adapter.

>>30963747
>can't find the links I was looking at but here are the sights.
>http://russtock.com/product?id=266
>http://www.k-var.com/shop/RPK-020.html

Were I to venture a guess, I'd say exact same part, different paint job.

>>30962145
>>30963918
I swear to god if I don't get an explanation about what the fuck this fucking goat thing is I'm going to go on a shooting spree

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Guys, can I play too?

>>30963918

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>>30963991

VEPR it is then. The regular RPK sights look a little better but for $20 (when I find the source again) I'll deal with it.

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>>30963584
>>30963963

I'm just thinking for the ACE stock, and more specifically how I get it mounted tightly

>>30963963
Also, why would you recomend it over any other one? Previous experience?

>>30964022
>VEPR it is then.

That's probably a sure bet. I doubt there are two different mfg lines at MOLOT cranking out different sites.

There is probably a marketing department though, and someone says "Orange paint - charge more, extra wodka all around!"

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>>30963998
>this fucking goat thing
You have to be specific, there's three. :^
>>>30963918
>vocal covers
Gross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_hZWT8X0o

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Come on.

>>30964082
I used a rubber bushing and tightened i5 worked well on mine

>>30964131

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQqyArvAn4k&spfreload=10

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>>30963998

A powerful being made up of every soul in under ground.

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>>30964155
only problem is the end looks like this. So there is no way to mount the bolt in from the rear trunnion.

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>>30964217
>Carpet
Is it?
>>30964221
Delete this.

>>30964228
Did you not get the Yugoslavia adapter ?

>>30963998
Google undertale

>>30964240
>>Carpet
>Is it?

Inquiring minds don't want to know.

When you get that call for service, and you just don't want to know. And hell no, not moving that couch - let the crime scene unit do it, because I do NOT want to know what's behind it.

>>30964255
I got a whole package for 150, used. Which might not have been the best idea in afterthought.

The question then is just wether to go with ace or Krebs. Depending on the space between rear trunnion and folding mechanism, so that it can rotate without an issue

>>30964098
Fitment and placement of the mounting holes.
The ACE blocks are mounted from the outside of the receiver, and the holes to screw your stock or hinge mech are off center because of it.
The Krebs mounts from the inside and the outside mounting holes are high low and center, as opposed to just low.

Also ditch the ACE hinge for a Stormwerkz as soon as you can, the ACE hinges have been known to have the pin walk out from recoil.
>They also only have 1 locking lug while the SW has 2.

>>30964355
appreciate that, thank you. I'll order the krebs then. Know how long they take to ship?

>>30960588
Yours is, the other one is a vepr import from even waaaaaay more once upon a time ago. Its in .5.45 x39 too I believe.

>>30964464
I'm pretty sure he didn't think both rifles were of the same make. At least I hope.

>>30964418
It's been ~3 years since I got mine, but I recall it being rather quick.
>But they're in the same state as me (Illinois), so that's a factor.

Once you get it, you'll see it's a much better solution to mounting an aftermarket stock/hinge setup on Yugos.

>>30964464
>>30964498
Also, I'm 95% sure his is in 5.56.

>>30964518
If your talking about the anon with the vepr rpk it is 5.56

>>30960573
>>30960486 is a VEPR 1V in 5.56, >>30960377 is>>30960588

Guys is there really nothing that can be done about the amd front handguards? Op pic looks so wrong just having the exposed gas tube. Plus the heat.

>>30964502
Sweet, already ordered. Now we wait.

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I just finished putting the black furniture that came with the rifle back on and my old Bulgarian zigzag and it's really weird looking compared to the plum I've had on the rifle for like 18 months

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>>30964940
>matching shades
F-fuck you.

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>>30964978
Settle down, it's not mine.
>You still win.
Was just bumping the thread, it was on page 8 after 25 minutes.

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Hello /k/ids, I've wanted to build an AK since the days of plentiful sub-$100 kits a decade ago. I had to put those dreams on hold due to poverty and other reasons, but now I'm finally in a position to do it.

I see a lot's changed over the years, kits are a lot more expensive and imported barrels seem to have disappeared.

Has completing 80% lowers become an easy task like with ARs? I remember back then that there were two standard options for receivers, one of which required a 20-ton press (preferably bought on sale at Harbor Freight, of course).

Let's say I wanted to build a basic AK in 7.62x39 -- what's the preferred kit, barrel, and receiver kit to use?

>>30965094
Shit was fucking infuriating, no matter what I did the handguards always came out so goddamned dark compared to the grip and stock.

>>30965113
Yeah, color matching is not exactly fun.
Especially on pieces of laminate that are likely chosen at random, and not for their match in color.

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I made a thread but no one answered so I thought I'd post it here

I want to build an AK but I don't know where to start. If you want an Ar15 it's easy to find builders(or do it yourself) and quality parts but for AKs it seems much for difficult.

Does anyone know a good builder who isnt backed up for months?

Where do you get proper and quality barrels and receivers?

I want muh rivets

Pic related, what I'm wanting to build.
It seems more expensive if I buy a rifle first and then swap everything out and parts kits have gotten expensive and again, have parts I don't need

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all my aks

>>30965108
>Has completing 80% lowers become an easy task like with ARs?
Building an AK will NEVER be even remotely similar to "building" an AR.

"Building" an AR is simply putting together some Lego parts in your room, whereas building an AK is a legitimate assembly and fabrication process that requires tools mostly found in machine shops. The tools alone needed for an AK build are going to run ~$500 and are going to need some considerable space to store and use.

The general consensus is that if you need to ask what you'll need to build an AK from a parts kit then you already don't have what it takes to build an AK.

Watch this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkPCn3LmaA) of Flandre building a rifle and READ READ READ up on building.

But to answer your questions:
>what's the preferred kit
Whatever you can find cheapest and/or most complete. Polish kits are always popular and good, as are Bulgarian kits for 5.45
>barrel
Surplus in good condition, otherwise Green Mountain is still producing some of the best US made barrels and AKbuilder barrels are also good.
>receiver
NDS are always desirable

>>30960667
>I hadn't seen the letter, glad to see the company stands by their products.

Standing by a pile of shit still means you're standing by a pile of shit, though.

>>30959499
>At our manufacturing plant we have test facilities equipped with Rockwell hardness testers and magnetic particle inspection equipment to ensure that there are no flaws or cracks in our material. Our firearms are made to the true polish military blueprints and we have many rifles at our manufacturing plant which have in excess of 10,000rds fired through them.

So why did Rob's die at 1,666? Riddle me, that, IO.

>>30965183
>Pic related, what I'm wanting to build.

You should probably just build an AR.

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>>30965279
Thank you, sir!

>>30965337
But I want an AK

>>30965388
Little advice, do not put buffer tube stocks on AK if it's a 7.62. They are too narrow for even that level of recoil.

>>30965417
I'm wanting it to be 5.45

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>>30959499

Ell. Oh. Elllll.

>>30965634
Even as I post this I see the fires on I.O.'s shitface page are very hot indeed.

>>30965634
Good shit.
That dumpster fire of a company and their shitbag owner need to stop putting out guns.

>>30965230
Nigger what did you do to that ptr? Don't tell me it came with that handguard. Is that a psl?

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>>30959409
>tfw really want a WASR but no magwell dimples triggers your autism

>>30965634
They can't even do damage control properly lel. What do you guys think would be appropriate of them to do though, besides make an ak that fuckin works? Cowboylaughs.jpeg

>>30965875
i just put a dust cover on it and slammed a spare vepr handguard on it for fun

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>>30962742
>The tooling for OG Galils doesn't exist anymore
Bullshit. South Africa still produces Galils with slightly longer stocks and Finland still has the tooling for Rk62s, which are quite literally the OG Galil. They're just being kikes.

>>30963918
Still haven't gotten laid?

>>30965230
That fucking Vepr handguard on the 32. Also, pleb-tier keyboard :^

>>30965309
it was sarcasm anon

>>30965974
Absolute madman lol

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>>30963344
Tfw your ak wants to do it in your truck bed and you know you can't do it in public but she keeps giving you that look.

>>30965230
Tell me how the everloving fuck, you put a vepr forend on a fucking ptr.

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>>30967653

Getting my first semi-auto rifle on Tuesday, it's an AK-74. Can anyone recommend some places to get some cheap plum or bakelite magazines?

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>>30967758
>Cheap plum or bakelite magazines
Ha. Ha ha ha. That's a good one. The cheapest you're likely to find it (without a friend in Russia) is one of the group buys here for around $25 a mag.

>>30967758
Those clear polish mags arent a bad buy either. Usually around 15 bucks a piece.

>>30967782
>that stock adapter
Is that specific to that stock? Or is that some kind of peice that makes folding trunnion stocks possible on fixed trunnions?

>>30967758
a tripfag on here is going to do a group buy for bakelites in a week or two. keep an eye out for VAfag and ask him about it next time you see him. He's compiling an email list and will contact us when he has more info.

ps, they won't be "cheap" but they will be well below retail prices.

>>30968413

Will do. Thanks.

Anyone here used an MRO on an AK? I'm trying to decide between one of the nicer Holosuns or an MRO and I'm cautious about the MRO because of the earlier issues with them and the fact that they can't cowitness with an AK. They do seem like the more well built optic though.

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I've got a question. The new SLR-104 I bought seems to have a slight crease under the front trunnion rivets in the receiver on both sides. Is this an issue? I've never seen an AK with these before so I want to know if I should be worried.

>>30960444
Gib pls

>>30969011
machine marks from the press

>>30969139

Odd. It almost looks like the receiver was bent slightly around the front trunnion. I've never seen that on an AK before. Gotta love a $1k AK with flaws no other AK has. Thanks Arsenal!

>>30969165
The way things are going, basically all of the decent AKs are about 1k anymore. If I was going to get another one I'd just buy an Arsenal.

>>30969011
r u srs nigga -_-

>>30969202

yes nigga, I am

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>>30962557
>How much did it run you?
Rough estimate is around $3200 for everything, so about $3300 after I get it coated, if I do.

It's not a perfect clone, but it's pretty damn good.

Honestly, I'm kind of digging the two-tone

>>30969192

Sad, isn' it? I guarantee when (if) Arsenal starts to import the SLR-107 rifles again next year the first wave is going to be littered with garbage and sell for $1200 a pop.

>>30969331

>that mauled rivet

ew

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>>30969351
Trust me, I know. It triggered me too.
The builder's attention to detail wasn't as good as I had hoped it would be.
>pic related

Luckily, I had this built to be used, not just to be looked at.

>>30962416
NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE

>>30969425
I get you. AKs are like the perfect range toy. The just feel like a piece of equipment or tool when you shoulder it. I love mine because I can blast away and not worry about it getting fucked up since it was already fucked up to begin with.

>>30969338
I can't decide if it's the Bulgarians fault or our shitty governments.

>>30969527

both. gov being fucksticks as usually and Arsenal turning that greed up to 11.

Have you seen some of the SLR-107s that were last imported? Shallow dimples, terrible spot welds, fucking RUST UNDER PAINT, canted everything. But at least they werk, right?

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>>30969490
Hey Chimps, when do you want to come shoot it?

>he dicked up the same rivet on the opposite side too

>>30969425

A good cerakote place will hid some of that stuff. They might even be able to work with the rivets and touch them up.

>>30969558
Well, isn't the Sam-7 basically the civilian version of their infantry rifle now? I assume that the SLR series is kind of a side project of 15 year olds using 30 year old Soviet era equipment and not giving a fuck, since the government there has very little investment in it as a product.

I wish Obama would repeal the fucking sanctions on Russia though. That shit's retarded. I wants my damn Saigas back.

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>>30969588
>88
Thanks Adolf

I'm still up in the air on what coating I want done. I'm torn between Cerakote, Gunkote, Molyresin, and buying "genuine factory paint" from that dude on the files.

Or I could just leave it as is for a little while and do a tacticool rattle can job to trigger people.

Side note
>tfw I'll never have a translucent ribbed molot magazine

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>>30969649

I'd skip the factory paint. Get something durable at the very least.

>>30969603

Once gun rights are taken away at a federal level you will never get them back.

As for the Sam-7, yes it is Bulgarias service rifle but they still shit out the stamped versions for fuck tons of other countries armys, usually Africa and the middle east. If you want a good chance at a straight, clean AK, a milled Arsenal is the way to go.

>>30969011
Bought a lemon, bro
Shit's going to KB after like 500 rounds

>>30969770
IDK man, 94 "assault weapons" ban expired and hasn't come back. Hope springs eternal (until we elect Shillary anyways).

>>30970006
when does Obama's russ ban expire?

>>30970023
When the chinese ban expires.

>>30970006

you forget that had a sunset clause in it and at the time for renewal it was political suicide for anyone to support bringing it back.

>>30970144
n-no

>>30967668
i just forced it on, theres nothing holding it on except the tension of the handguard.

>>30969559
Where you at in NC?

>>30970329
Jville, though there aren't too many good places to shoot out here. Might have to meet you halfway if we can find a decent range

>>30970756
>Jville
As in Jacksonville in Eastern NC.

I forgot that people who aren't subject to this shit-hole might not know the other names for it.

>>30970206
It's really sick that all the gun laws don't have sunset clauses.

Don't they have to revisit for marijuana and other substances that are regulated? Guns should be the same.

>>30970756
Ah that's pretty far away, I'm past Charlotte, but it might be worth it. That's hands down my favorite AK build I've ever seen posted on /k/.

>>30966806
I was talking about IWI's tooling for Galils retard.

>>30967896
Bumping for answer

>>30971233
I appreciate the compliment.

Meeting halfway would probably be better for both of us, or perhaps getting an NC meetup to actually work for once.

Let me know the next time you guys are doing a WNC meet and I'll see if I can't make it out.

My email is still active (rustly.shackleford.burner) and I check it from time to time. If that doesn't work, I lurk /akg/ pretty religiously.

I only have a few months before I move home for good though, so it'll have to be fairly soon.

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>>30971261
Pretty obvious what you were talking about, but saying the chance is 0% is wrong in the same way that saying the "OG tooling" is gone is truly wrong.

>>30967896
It's specific to the ZenitCo PT-1's fucking retarded mounting pattern, sorry to say.

anyone dealt with whatacountry.com before?
anyone else got 20 round Hungarian mags for cheaper than them?

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>>30971596
I have had a couple dealings with WAC.
Good company.

You just missed Arms Of America having hungarian 20s for $20.
>I got 8.

>>30971596
>anyone dealt with whatacountry.com before?

I have. I ordered some german bakelite mags from them. Reliable. You get what you pay for.
Those mags look brand new. Not a scratch or even a scuff mark on them. Hell if I remember correctly they were still wrapped in paper.

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>>30959409

>>30971596
Copes has 3 with a pouch for $70.
Not the greatest deal, but a little cheaper than What A Country.

http://www.copesdistributing.com/hungarian-cell-canvas-pouch-20rd-762x39-mags-p-10392.html?osCsid=tp9c5jpsmbi99ei43eusni3sa1

>>30971827
actually, that's way better
$5 cheaper and a pouch
with the pouch, they're actually useful for innawoods or whatever
hell, wouldn't be bad for competition if you got a stage you know has a lot of prone shooting

>>30971827
say, got any coupon codes for Cope's?

>>30971664
Still debating on whether or not I want one of those. There's one in my LGS that has been waiting for an owner for years.
>$99

>>30971903
Try offering $75. That's about what it should be and if it's been sitting for years, they're likely to work with you on price.

>>30971878
No, sorry.

>>30971532
>It's specific to the ZenitCo PT-1
Thanks.

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>>30971903
DO IT

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Question: how do you guys clean your barrels on your 5.45 rifles? I'm trying to use a .22 jag and brass cleaning rod on my 74 and I can't even get it past the chamber. I can get a bore snake through but it is a real tight squeeze.

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>>30973771
.22 caliber bore snake works fine for me

>>30973866

I really want to use my parker hale jag setup of I can. It just cleans so much better than anything else I've got. It seems like you can only really clean an AK barrel with a rod from the muzzle end but fuck that.

Just bought a C39v2 as my first ak, did I do okay?

>>30973926

>no tacticool handguards and ultimak with Aimpoint

0/10

>>30973926
any plans to leave cuckfornia? ive almost saved up enough now im researching the best free states. what are your plans for registration come next year?

>>30973950

yes. it's the only other AK besides the WASR that century has their name on that's worth a damn.

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>>30973327
I really wish the canvas drum covers didn't cover up the top, it'd look so much better racked in without that flap just dangling open.

>>30973954
>making fun of that and not the lock housing covering the mag release on a california AK
-10/10

>>30973971
>>30973988
fucking chink website ruining my sass

I wanted to go to the range today but I'm currently under a flood advisory. Fucking range is going to be a muddy shithole all week.

>>30973771
>>30973904
I use a .22 jag and a patch that's about as big as a penny. Takes a bunch of them but I don't mind.

>>30973975
My entire life is here, I'm a mommas boy and I cant stand to not see her at least twice a week.

>>30974266
so get your momma to leave too. why wouldnt you, she could sell her house in cuckfornia and buy double the size/quality if she wanted to in a free state.

>>30974266
Lonely w/ no gf or edopas complex?

>>30974688
>edopas complex
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

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Izzy side stamp - NOS

>>30974729
Fuck please be bait.

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I've got a couple.

>>30974729
Fug. I forgot how Oedipus was spelled
>>30975086
Pasta, more like

>>30975142
When you can't remember, it's best to air on the side of caution and google it first.

What are the best cheap AK mags?

>>30975162
>air on the side of caution
refer to >>30974729

>>30960606

The only thing I need to finish my AK74 is you familami

Any word on the stamps?

>>30975377
Idiot

>>30975342
Literally any steel mag that isn't Korean, there you go.
You can get grade 2(used, battlefield pickups/turn-ins and such) from apex
gun parts for like 12-14 bucks each.

Pic related(>>30967300)is one of the ones I got from them, it's the most banged up looking ones out of the 3 I got from them, but it hasnt had any fuck ups, neither have the other ones.

Also, yeah that is a name scratched into the side of it which is why I like it so much.

>>30975342
I like the yugo BHO mags for the money. Not that there are a ton of retailers with them atm.

>>30975162
*err on the side of caution not air

>>30975126
>I've got a couple.

>3 types of solid stock 7.62x39

Why tho?

>>30975571
>>30975377
You say tomatoes, I say potatoes.

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Just picked this up yesterday, NIB. Ordered a recoil buffer, new spring/guiderod assembly, and charging handle so far.

Any good recommendations on other upgrades? I hate the stock foregrip, but can't seem to find a lot of replacement options besides a Chaos key or quad rail, and I don't really want either of those. Not into the tacticool look.

Would also love a Maxrounds drum, but at $650 is it really worth it?

>>30975575
Type 3, Type 56, AKM.

Hey /akg/, are Yugo N-PAPs any good? What about the High Standard Brand AKs?

>>30976064
If you want a Yugo, they're alright. And High Standard AKs are meh.

>>30976064
>Hey /akg/, are Yugo N-PAPs any good?

Vepr is best rifle. Accepting substitutes is turd instead of tootsie roll.

>>30975840
>recoil buffer, new spring/guiderod
For what purpose?
It's new, why replace parts that are fine or in the case of the recoil buffer, useless snake oil?

As for the handguards, RPK handguards will fit the Vepr 12 with minor fitting.

Maxround drums are way overpriced and not really worth it, in my opinion.
I'm waiting for the SGM drums to get some reviews, and I might consider one of them.

>>30976064
Yes. If you're looking at a Yugo, get an underfolder. The furniture compatibility with other AK models is limited, so you may as well get the version with less interchangeable parts.

Underfolders are also really damn fun.

>>30976132
From what I've seen/read, the Carolina replacement parts should do better with low brass ammo. If that's not the case, then shit. At least I've got some extra parts for later? I hate the push button that came on the rod holder anyways, so will be swapping that ASAP.

>>30976192
Rack it 500 times, and it'll be fine with low brass.
>I hate the push button that came on the rod holder anyways
Do what?
The retainer lock that is meant to hold the top cover on/down under recoil?
There's a reason that Molot went with it over a more standard recoil spring retainer.

I mean it's your gun, if you choose to go with different parts that's on you.
I'm just saying I find it odd.

Just a threadly remark:

Save up and spend a bit more. The N-PAPs and WASR's are turds.

Save up and get a Vepr.

Will it cost more? Yes.

Do you have to customize it? Probably, depending on what you buy.

Will you have a much better rifle? Yes.

>>30959409
ah, the thompson submachine gun. hell of a weapon

>>30976287
>opinions

>>30976322
>>opinions

It's true though. I looked at all 3 at my LGS, when I was considering options.

Just line up all 3 next to each other, and take a look, at the same time.

WASR BTFO!
N-PAP BTFO!

Your eyes and common sense don't lie.

>>30976371
Yeah, but some people like features on their rifles.
Why pay more for a cucked rifle?

>>30976371
>WASR BTFO!
>N-PAP BTFO!
curiousgeorge fuck off

>>30976414
>>30976397

As I said:

If you have a LGS where you can look at all the next to each other, the choice is obvious.

I do, and I did.

You might make a different choice, but at least have the opportunity to make it.

N-PAP and WASR are probably good 'hood guns though. Just not at the same standard as a Vepr.

>>30976414
As retarded as this anon is, he can still form coherent sentences. I'm pretty sure CG was smothered by his handler months ago.

>>30976460
hey hes anonymous tho, that still puts him above namefa-

oh

your a namefag. time for another filter

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>>30976478
Post your AK anon. :^

>tfw no bakelites for AK74 yet

When they come in I'll take a good wood floor pic with my Nikon

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>>30976546
Forgot pic

WASR: When you absolutely, positively, have to rob a convenience store tonight, and you don't feel bad for leaving it in the weeds.

N-PAP: While not letting a little rust and bad geometry get in the way, there's a BLM rally you want to march past, on the way to the dentist you actually won't visit.

Vepr: Tea at two? Delightful! Hammer forged barrel, RPK receiver, basically a hunting rifle [wink] made out of a Commie Block SAW.

>>30976580
>[wink]
Fucking kill yourself

>>30976588
>Fucking kill yourself

You're probably rocking a stamped Norinco from 1996 - have fun with that bullet hose.

*wink*

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>>30976565
Colors are so weird in that.

BAKES
BAKES FOR DAYS

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>>30976626
Did somepony say bakes?

>>30976580
Tfw wasrs have cold hammer forged barrels

>>30976650
>Tfw wasrs have cold hammer forged barrels

Skinny tootsie roll barrels don't count.

Gotta be a heavy LMG barrel, or GTFO!

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>>30976636
Duh

>>30976662
Aes-10b is a manly wasr. Cold hammer forged heavy barrel

>>30976690
>Aes-10b is a manly wasr. Cold hammer forged heavy barrel

RPK receiver? Otherwise, into the weeds after the stop and rob.

>>30976735
God damn, do you really like your single stack mags that much?

>>30976735
No that bulged trunnion is just a fucking illusion

>>30976735
Do you even know your AKs? Is this bait or retardation?
>its an RPK
>its an RPK
>its a fucking RPK
>it has fucking RPK parts
>it is built like a fucking RPK
>it is an RPK

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just a PSA that Ulrich Wiegnd (owner of I.O) and his brother were both arrested in 2004 by the ATF for fraud, Uli took a plea deal

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>>30976814

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=64464
The photo of him in shackles seems to be unuploadable.

>>30976747
>>30976746

I'm just trolling you guys.

Although I did compare a WASR, an N-PAP, and a Vepr at my LGS recently.

They had one WASR, and it was missing bits. I wasn't impressed by it, other than it being cheap.

They had various N-PAP's, and they were rusty, bad geometry, just shit. The N-PAP's had Tapco G2 triggers, but the fit and finish on them was just trash.

I ended up getting a Vepr.

So all the trash talking and trolling aside:

I considered the options recently:

WASR: Nah
N-PAP: Nah
Vepr: Hella yes

>>30976787

The Molot Vepr is built based on an RPK receiver. Common knowledge.

>>30976636

that bake is ugly as hell.

>>30976859

Molot makes saiga's look like pieces of shit, the vepr is the best you can buy on the market at this time.

>>30976510

How your pencil barreled commercial wasr treating ya?

>>30976859
>wasr Missing bits
What bits?
If it wasn't used I'm sure century would fix that for you, the only thing they wont take care of are cants which are rare on new production

>>30976928
>What bits?

>If it wasn't used I'm sure century would fix that for you, the only thing they wont take care of are cants which are rare on new production

I considered that, because I've read things where Century goes the extra mile to make peeps happy.

But once I put it up next to a Vepr, that became a moot point.

>>30976994
Eh, I still prefer features like regular ak furniture without the dumb adapter, you aren't missing much with a wasr as the heavy barrel will only make a difference when you magdump +250 rounds in 2 minutes.

Do you remember if the bolt carrier was blued or not? What furniture did it have?

>>30959409
What is a good /akg/ approved AK variant for a no guns? I don't want my cheap shit.....not do I want to spend a ton. Just nice mid grade AK.

7.62?
5.45?

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>>30977144
First ak should be 7.62
New production WASRs aren't trash, all of the memes come from pre-2008 production WASRs.
It's a perfect starter AK.
If you want to have lwss options for furniture but are tistic about the durability of stamped AKs, then go with an Npap, they have thicker receivers than your average ak. But you have less customization options due to Yugos being special snowflakes.

>>30977201
First AK should be a 7.62 SKS.

>>30977265
Leave faggot

>>30973950
I also joined /akg/ recently I bought a opap yesterday for $698

>>30977290
Seriously, 7.62 is so much nicer to shoot out of an SKS.

For a first AK go 5.45 and order ammo online.

>>30977296
Oh boy, why did you do that?

>>30977329
did I fuck up?

>>30977317
No it isn't, your a bitch of you think 7.62 is harsh out of an ak, if it's that much of an issue get a 74 brake from arsenal and boom, no fucking recoil.
An sks in this day in age is solely for collectability if you really want one so much.

>>30977340
There is no reason to get an opap over an Npap, I don't think you fucked up, you just payed more for a thinner receiver, so you kinda fucked up but fuck it yah know?

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>>30969011
Don't sweat it.

>>30977358
Wait, I think I mixed them up again. Let me fucking look it up again shit ;-;. I always do this.

>>30977368
Alright, after a bit of research you did get the rpk receiver one, you did good. Shit i need to remember the difference

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>>30977358
it's my first ak and the opap I got has a unfinished stock, I thought the customization was worth a little extra cash, but I'm happy with it

>>30977201
So what makes a WASR a WASR and an NPAP an NPAP

Any resources on the different types? I'm completely new to these and want to learn as much as I can.

I'll lurk moar too, but want to expedite the process if possible. Sorry for probably asking the same questions you all get all the time.

>>30977386
lol its fine I fuck up like that all the time I'm glad I bought a good ish one though, this is my first semi auto rifle

>>30977404
One of the is Romanian, aka like an exact "copy" of a Russian AKM, the Npap is Yugoslav, it is a bit different in terms of furniture, you can't use akm furniture on a Yugo rifle. Also, some of the Yugos have grenade launchers which is neat. Basically, they are both good rifles, as of recently WASRs have had a huge increase in quality, you can be assured that with a 2015 wasr that you won't get any fucked up rivets and the worst case is a canted sight, any worse than that and you can contact them and have them fix it/replace it.

>>30977439
Yeah, better late than never, shit, I think you did pretty good on the price as well, Yugos aren't getting imported any time soon.

>>30976897
>pencil barrel

This was beaten to death in a raging orgy a month or two ago. The WASR's barrel profile is the same or close (as in within hundredths of an inch) to other commercially available AK's.

>>30977404
If you want a "generic" AK get a WASR. Compatible with standard furniture, nothing special about it. Average quality, average price. NPAP are a bit higher quality, but don't have the same extent of parts compatibility. Unique stock type, and longer handguards. NPAP underfolders are nice though.

>>30977465
Basically this.

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>>30977454
>exact

>no dimples

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is life even worth living without a 6inch barrel?

>>30978160
>flamethrower.jpg
Also, insert dick length joke here.

What does /k/ think of legion USA?

>>30978137
Well, pretty close. The original Romy aks were exact.

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What do you all think of my AK?

>>30973977
>Npap

Wew, mc fucking kill urself pham.

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>>30978402
Dongs out

>>30978402
What's that button next to your trigger? Is it your jacket?
Looks good tho

>>30978402
Bretty sweet outta 10

I bought all this 7n6 ammo and I only have a vepr to shoot it. What is a good 5.45 option now-days?

>>30978438
Anything cheap for shooting.
>Tula works fine but don't expect accuracy to be 100%.
>Wolf seem to be reliable and accurate
>Hornady is good for hunting
> stockpile 7n6 of course

>>30978438
Shit I read that wrong
> slr 104
> used Saiga
> used tantal
> century m74 ( questionable quality control)

>>30978473
Thanks DaWG....I need a daewoo too.

Looking into buying some receiver flats, could anyone explain the reason behind the Y and I embossing? It is an optional thing on AK Builder, what does it do?

>>30962651
ugly as fuck, looks like something out of cod.

>>30978495

It's just the shapes stamped into the side of the receiver that may or may not make your build more authentic looking. Look at the pictures on the website and look por the stamp next to the "X" that looks like a "Y". They "I" stamp is towards the bottom of the receiver on the left side.

>>30978402
What optic is that?

New thread

>>30978878

>>30978878

>>30978878

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>>30978429
>Dongs out

Indeed.