/akg/ AK General

First for quality Century produced American AKs.

Anyone got a line on cheap(ish) AK74 magazines? Cheapest I can find is $40 a pop.

>>30940370
http://www.akparts.com/index.htm
http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30682
http://armsofamerica.com/ak-74545x39mags.aspx

Dunno if you're interested in polymer mags, but they're a lot cheaper.

>>30939595
I guess we'll see what Bob Sled has to say about the PSA AK soon, but what's /k/'s consensus on it so far? (Their AR included, was thinking about building one)

>>30940480

danke

>>30940507
gen 1 was shit. gen 2 is supposed to be better but i havent head much from users

>>30940507

From what I saw in the vid if they got their heat treat down it will do fine.

I still will never buy a 100% US AK though.

>>30940507

>consensus
>/k/

>>30940543

>I still will never buy a 100% US AK though.

I'd buy one if they were built and sold correctly. Problem is nobody is producing domestic CHF CL AK barrels (that I know of) and mating them to properly built US-parts traditional style AKs and selling them for what you'd pay for a Bulgarian arsenal. It's all a mash of old parts kits and button rifled barrels.

>>30940268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nndf9P84Ztg

Looks pretty good, the new PSA AK.

>>30940268
>Kalash Life Edition

Where get that patch?

>>30940805

I hate to say it but the US aks will be the budget rifles now what with fucking WASRS selling for $700+ and your average SLR-107 going for $1200 used,

At least the 5.45 market has been stable.

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Not enough krinks in here

>>30940268
Anyone know where I can buy a wooden donkeydick foregrip?

>>30940268
Are ak's as customizable as ar15s? If I buy any random folding stock will it fit on any ak?

>>30940946
Try apex

>>30940913

Haha, holy shit, Europeans can buy Chinese AKs for 500€.

Enjoy your splendour Amerifats :-)

>>30940982

Too bad newer chink AKs are garbage :^

>>30940805
>CL barrels

Pretty much meme tier now that nitride/melonite exists, which I believe the PSAK has.

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Hello friends :3

>>30940967
About as much. There are variations and non mil-spec models, kind of like civilian buffer tubes and ruger delta rings on ARs.

If you have a triangle folder cut receiver you have to use a triangle stock, if you have an under folder cut receiver you have to use an under folder. If you get a standard fixed stock model you have the most options for stocks because you can get an adapter that will run anything including AR stocks, but it sticks out an inch because of the rear tang. You can cut the tang and put an ace adapter and it won't stick out an inch, but you can never go back to fixed stocks.

Fore ends are pretty much universal, except saiga and veprs use an extended fore end that is screwed into the receiver, sort of like a free float AR. You can add a retaining plate and run the short, standard handguard, but I'd consider that a downgrade desu.

Also veprs and zastavas have to use specific stocks, but if you get an adapter again you open up a lot of stock options. CNC warrior and ace make the best adapters.

All grips are universal to my knowledge. In short to answer your question no they're not all the same spec but they make adapters that make them so.

>>30940969
Thanks anon

>>30941021

Compared to the gypsy Romanian ones I'd take the Chinese any day :-)

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Over the past week I've picked up five true black Izhmash mags and two matte plum Izhmash mags and my wife doesn't know about me spending money on them yet :^)

>tfw took this pic one year ago yesterday
I've been digging around on my computer and finding old pics I forgot I took

>>30941156
>but they make adapters that make them so.
EXCEPT if you have an underfolder or triangle AK, then you can't swap. The method of doing that is to make specific fitting cuts into the receiver. The AK100 stocks (best stocks) use the same cut as the triangle, so those you can swap.

If you want a triangle but still want modularity, use the CNC warrior adapter. This leaves the tang so you can go back to fixed stocks. If you don't want that inch sticking out the back cut the tang and use an ACE adapter, it will allow you to use just about as many stocks as the CNC warrior.

If you want an AK100 style stock but don't want to drop $200 I had the idea of fitting and screening a standard fixed stock onto an adapter.

>>30940967

>Are ak's as customizable as ar15s?

Not really.

>If I buy any random folding stock will it fit on any ak?

Make sure parts are compatible with your AK before you spend money on them.

>>30941037

They're still button rifled though, which is a downer, but there's not a whole lot PSA can do about that. I'm sure there's a huge market for these rifles though, especially now that "just buy a WASR" isn't really applicable for a while.

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>>30940268
Picked this up today, I'm in love.

>>30941312
GOD DAMNIT PUT YOUR FUckING MAGAZINE IN STRAIGHT YOU COcKSUCKER! I BET ITS JAMMED IN THERE AND YOURE GOING TO COME ON HERE LATER TONIGHT AND BITCH ABOUT YOUR MAGAZINE BEING STUCK AND YOU CANT GET IT OUT AND YOURE GOING TO ASK US WHY ITS STUCK AND THEN YOULL SHOW US \PICTURES OF YOU TRYING TO GET IT OUT IWHT A DREMEL AND WERE GOING TO SAY WE TOLD YOU IT WAS IN CROOKED EARLIER YOU FACUKING AFAGGOT.

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My NPAP underfolder was slated for arrival at the FFL today, but it still appears to be in transit. On the bright side, my Balkan Wars furniture should arrive tomorrow. I'll be happy if the gun shows up too.

>>30941312
Nice gun tho.

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556
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>>30940982

>Europeans can buy Chinese AKs

Specifically which europeans?

>>30940946
http://www.apexgunparts.com/romanian-ak47-akm-lower-handguard-w-grip-wooden-fair-to-good.html

>>30941349
>>30941370
I corrected it after, I'm an AR fag so this is my first Kalashnikov styled rifle. Be gentle.

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>>30941349

I was going to comment on this but I see you're all over it, so have a picture of my slr107 taken the day I brought it home.

Any expectations for the psak-47? It sounds like they actually are trying to fix issues unlike other manufacturers
>>30940370
I am making another group buy soon if you're interested and can wait for a while

>>30941433
IM ON IT BRO, I GOT IT DONT FACUKING WORRY ABOUT IT

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>>30940967
>Are ak's as customizable as ar15s?
Kind of.

>>30940946
Bought one yesterday on apex.

What's the closest ak i can get to an ak-12?

>>30941449

>I am making another group buy soon

Different anon, but I just got into 5.45 (fuck my horrible timing) and would possibly be interested if I can get rid of some stuff I don't shoot anymore.

>>30941064
Hello, sir. How are you?

>>30941532
An AK-11 or 13. Dumbass.

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>>30941532
dog leg rail with your choice of tacticool furniture. Zenitco is pretty close, but super pricey. Magpul Zhukov stock is pretty close, too.

>>30941600
Thanks will look into these.

>>30941547
Sure, shoot me an email
[email protected]

>>30941452
This is the most /k/ thing i've seen yet. Thats enough internet for one day. Goodnight.

>>30941697
OK BRO, SLEEPTIGHT DONT LET THE FACUKING BEDBUG BITE YOU OK

>>30941389

The ones that can :-)

Generally the ones who modeled their laws on German ones.

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>>30941312

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Still the hottest WASR on the block

>>30940268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kv0Q9GI43w
is io a meme?

I want to build an AK based on Larry Vickers "alpha ak" video. Does anyone have a parts list for it? I'm ignorant of AK parts so I can't really pick them out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxhTNZ1wAsc

>>30942405
IO is terrible. Never buy one. That's all that needs to be said.

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>>30940268
sexiest rifle reporting in!

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Here you go. Kinda underwhelmed, to be honest.

>>30942619
I like your wood sir>>30942661

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>>30942465
He lists them in the video, you can get creative with the process since it's based on personal rifles from Alpha.

>>30941449
What payment method? I want to buy some mags but PayPal will not let me make an account for what ever reason

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I don't have pictures right now but I decided to pick up an Arsenal SLR-107FR. How do Russians or anyone using this type of side folder prefer to carry this in non combat situations?

I've found that keeping it full length can be nice to sling over my back but I can also see a folded rifle being nice to carry around or stuck to a bag maybe.

>>30943350
How's the cheekweld? Looks decent.

>>30942478
Failed meme is failed. IO is just fine.

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New furniture bump.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nndf9P84Ztg

>AKOU pitting a Palmetto AK vs a Palmetto AR

Who else is fucking hype, I didn't even know Palmetto made AKs. Is this thing going to be as big of a dumpster fire as the I.O?

>>30943540
It would have been better bait if the first post didn't have IO fucking up in the first few rounds of the test. You'll still get plenty of (you)s though.

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>>30943602
PSA seems to have actually been trying to make improvements since the first gen. I'm hoping they turn out to be good.

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>>30943598
Vented handguards ftw

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>>30943631
>>30943631
Do you have a line on a pair of vented or otherwise? I kind of want to get a classic pair since mine are really grey

>>30943602
The original batch had headspace issues. I believe they recalled them. Theyre on gen 2 now.

They seem to be keeping it cheap but doing it right. The palmetto way is to outsource to other companies that have the proper machining (probably lowest bid) then put it all together in house. So they may not have their own 10,000 ton steel press but they contacted someone that does and they get the receiever flats done by them, then they get the gas block billet, etc and just have the small tools needed to put the pieces together. It's genius really, if they were able to do some higher bidding they could get some really high quality stuff made, but you probably wouldn't buy it because $$$. It also seems like their quality control sucks, everything is blemished but they may be buying some other company's unwanted parts and selling them second hand. We'll see how well that fares in the testing.

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>>30943486
It's alright, but not great. Kinda ridiculous that people pay the prices for them that they do, if I'm honest.

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>>30943631
Nicccce. Mine are little banged up, but I guess that means I don't have to worry about babying them.
>No light for pictures

>>30943678
Russiansurplus.net always has AKSU handguards in stock, though they are a bit pricey. Especially for vented. Try Akfiles, they come up often enough.

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>>30943735
Did you get your bad dragon assgaper in yet?
>>30943745
Thanks, ill give you a bake next time im up near your part of the woods

>that st george
I bet hohols upset)))

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P L U M
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>>30943631
>>30943678
>>30943745
Krink squad Activate

>>30943735
Man, and I've been thinking of getting one of those for my SLR.

Maybe I'll just stick with my stock folder, and get a buttpad for it or something.

>>30943735
It's expensive because of where its from, not it's quality. Zenit is like the Russian tapco, yet we jump to put it on our rifles because muh authenticity. Meanwhile spetsnaz jumps to put tapco and other American parts on their rifles. Have you seen the spetsnaz alfa squad's AKs? They have a TWS top rail and a tapco handguard. American optics are probably popular too.

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>>30943771
Standing by
>>30943803
>where its from
Even if you buy bulk from zenit you arent going to save piles of cash
>Its not quality
They are decent quality
> Zenit is like the Russian tapco
Id rank them on the same level as like mid west industries

Slavs do enjoy a little tapco but they mainly like fab defense and locally made shit (except optics)

>t. Head of proofs at RT

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>>30943765
Not yet, but when I do I'll have more bottlecaps to shitpost with :^

>>30943771
DDI forces combine!

>>30943803
They're like $200 in Russia from what I understand, at least according to my Russian friend. I never thought the PT-1 would be all that great of a stock, which is why I wanted the PT-3. Also from what I've heard Lucid optics are really popular among Russian operators over there.

>>30943795

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>>30943803
>Alfa
>Using Tapco
Not a lot from what I've seen.
The seem to really like Mission First Tactical and Fab Defense stuff though.

>American optics are probably popular too
They do seem to really like EOTechs for some unknown reason.

>>30943857

What are opinions on the Obzor? I know everyone says "just get an Aimpoint" but god I still want one.

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>>30943857
Well it looks cool. Does it feel strong enough to smash someone's head with?

Oh and alfa group also puts fucking AR stocks on them, the posers. Idk what fore end that is though.

>>30943686
I have a gen 2 PSAK47
Aint had any issues with functionality so far. Then again I've only put maybe 400 rounds though it.
I got their barreled reciever than bought their kit to build the rest. Along with hogue furniture and a bumpski stock.
The pistol grip screw that initially came with their build kit had a fucked thread and only threaded half way. Didnt matter cause I had an extra and ended up swapping for a hogue grip anyways.
I also had to dremel a tiny bit off the front of the top cover to get it to fit. Not too big of a deal, it's a tight fit, almost too tight.
Ask questions if you must.

>>30943901
>Idk what fore end that is though
They're ZenitCo.
B30 and B31 I believe.

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>>30943678
Guy on the files had a bunch for sale or try ebay and gunbroker.

>>30943745
Wear give character

>>30943883
It's pretty great, get one

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>>30943883
I've never used one myself, but based on photographs and some reading I believe it's not worth the price unless you want the "authentic" optic. If I wanted a top of the line red dot, I would've bought another T-2, but what I wanted was a unique, cool, Slavic optic, so I went with the PK-AS. If you want it, buy it, but it won't be as good as an Aimpoint.

>>30943901
ZenitCo handguard and gas tube rail.

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>still waiting for saiga conversion
I'm starting to get annoyed at the gunsmith, 2 weeks and they haven't even ordered parts, when they told me it would be two weeks total to have the gun done. I might just say fuck you and find a garage builder.

>>30944471
All you need is a drill and dremel...

Theyre probably having fun at the range with your newly rare AK.

>>30944564
And a press.

I know I can use Google, but I'm wondering if anyone knows if any sites have "better" quality polish tantal kits or if it's luck

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Did the anon do the bakelite group buy yet? What's the minimum purchase quantity?

>>30944791
No, and he's a tripfriend.
See
>>30941449 and
>>30941689

As an Aussie i look at these threads and cry :( so jelly.

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r8 zen8

>>30944655
As far as i know only 2 sites have em.

Not surprising but yeah.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-judge-upholds-atfs-decision-banning-ammo-designed-for-ak-47/

>>30941389
Swiss, Czechs, Finns, Germans, Frenchs, Belgians, Italians, Slovenians, Slovaks, Luxemburgians, Danes, Austrians. That would be around 200 million Europeans and I probably forgot some countries.

>>30943397
I guess a money order would work.

>>30945178
God I fucking hate the liberal shithole that runs this state. I'm on the other side of the mountains and yet they still put their hands in my life. As much as I love my state, If it wasn't for my job and my wife's job I pack up and move 40 miles east to Idaho just to get away from the lawmakers the south sound.

>>30945178
Yeah not surprising.
>100,000,000 would have been nice..

>>30945178

>But the judge disagreed, saying they contain a steel core and can be fired from a handgun

So can m855. Has anyone ever brought a 5.45 pistol to market? I mean if we're stuck with this bullshit can we at least get proper factory cut krink barrel "pistols" now?

>>30945180

Out of those, how many can walk into a gun shop, buy a rifle and standard capacity magazines, and as much ammo as they want and go shooting in the same day for no extra cost?

>>30945178
I fucking hate the commies that run this state.

>>30940913
are N-PAPs shit budget rifles or something

>>30945818
No, they're average quality.

>>30945611
You getting bakes this time ?
>74 of course

Important question for AKG:

Should I trade my vz2008 for an ak pattern?

If so, what would be an equal trade including 7 VZ-58 mags?

>>30946064
Depends on what you trade for
I'm not fond of the vz2008 so I would say yay on the trade

>>30942619
>>30942661

What's the blue tape on the grip for?

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>>30946479
tighter groupings

>>30946539
Tight pants?

>>30946064
Do it. VZs are shit and only their czfanbois defend them

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Recently watched the Russian Afghan war movie 9th company as recommended by Daewoo, lots of ak74s, pkms and cyka bylat

>>30947014
Good movie

Hey guys, are OD green Circle 10 5.56 mags worth $90 a pop? Rare?

Quick question, would grinding down the disconnector in the AK trigger pack make it full retard? I know it would get someone in butt rapey jail, I'm just legitimately curious.

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>>30943602

>that moment when PSA's AK becomes the American WASR

>>30947255
No.
But it will likely cause hammer follow, and/or out of battery detonation.

>>30947255
No. The hammer would ride the back of the bolt carrier as it was coming forward and chambering another round and cause a failure to fire if you did that. Making an AK full auto actually requires a few specific parts and some knowledge on gunsmithing.

I also hope you don't value your dog, or your anus.

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>>30941312

Noice, check muh long barrel Norinco.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274868

Not a bad deal
>lnib SAR1

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>>30947287
>Making an AK full auto actually requires a few specific parts and some knowledge on gunsmithing

Or just a piece of string, as shown by one of our Finnish (iirc) friends.

>For educational purpose only
>All NFA rules apply

>>30947379

What if i dont want to dump my whole mag

>>30947379
Huh. Wouldn't that just be an elaborate bump fire since the trigger would have to be pulled once per shot?
>>30947433
It looks like if you ease up tension on the string that it would stop firing

>>30947287

The large large majority of AK bolts and receivers are also neutered, and with receivers i do not only mean the autosear axis pin hole,

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hey guys, I'm thinking of converting a 7.62x39 VEPR. seems like an easy process, seems I only need to replace the mag trunnion to accept STANAGs, buy an AK grip and stock set and their conversion kits. Is that right? won't need more than a drill and vice right? also, is the muzzle threaded? that end piece screws right off right?

>>30947485

So youre just gonna grap the charging handle mid cycle? Stick your finger behind the trigger? Cut the rope?

And yes it kinda works like bump fire, but you press the trigger and it dumps the whole mag.

>>30941689
>>30941547
>Sure, shoot me an email
>[email protected]

Has anybody bought mags from VAfag before? Is he dependable?

>>30947525
It looks like the carabiner at the back acts as the new "trigger" as it were. And tension is released on the trigger with each shot, so if you release tension on the string it should stop cycling

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>>30947538
Yeah, he's good. This plum mag is one I got from him.

>>30946560
I like my VZ. It's lighter and slimmer, and you can use dem clips. The 2008 is actually decent quality for the price point, wouldn't have it as a dedicated shtf gun though. It seems fine for truck gun use, but if I wanted the vz58 platform as a dedicated go-to gun I'd get a czechpoint.

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Bought one of the green ones off files. I need to stay out of that fucking place.

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>>30947433
Make an illegal DIAS then?

>>30947485
>Wouldn't that just be an elaborate bump fire since the trigger would have to be pulled once per shot?
Even though the BATFE walked back their ruling that a string is a machine gun, I still believe they consider it to be an illegal modification and not a bumpfire mechanism.

I'm not gonna be the test case.

>>30947613
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be either.
I've always wondered why they never made a small motor that fit on a trigger guard and just pulled the trigger at a set rate, but I guess it would fall into the same category

>>30947560
I disagree with your assessment.

Looks like the carabiner is just an anchor for the string. You pull the trigger once, and the charging handle's motion pulls the trigger again after each cycle.

That said, you could be right, it just depends on how much tension is on that string.

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>>30947538
VAFag is gtg.
I got some bakes from his first group buy.
>Would happily give him shekels again

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>>30947650
>I've always wondered why they never made a small motor that fit on a trigger guard and just pulled the trigger at a set rate
I'm pretty sure a few companies tried to do that and they were, as you deduced, deemed machine gun conversions and illegal.
>Here's the ATF walkback about the string.
So while the string itself is no longer considered the "machinegun component", looping it around the trigger does "convert" the firearm into a machinegun.

>>30941449

If you are doing plums then I am interested. I know the number of people in the buy affects prices but what are you expecting the price per mag to be?

any rpkfriends here?
build from parts or vepr conversion?

How much does Virginia faggot charge for a waffle maguhzeen?

>>30947499
I'm actually having second thoughts on this. At the point where I buy all the parts, it will probably end up costing the same as an Arsenal. Is there any benefit of converting a VEPR over just buying an Arsenal/WASR? I hear a lot of the parts are hardier, but it doesn't sound like WASRs have much problems with falling apart.

>>30947927
the VA actually stands for Virgin Ass

>>30947855
R.I.P. freedom. 1787-ATF
>>30947927
>>30947889
The price per mag is fixed.
5.45:
30 rnd bakes izzy - 22$ (good condition)
30 rnd bakes tula - 25$ (good condition)
45 rnd bakes - 40$ (nos or very close to nos condition)
30 rnd dark matte plums izzy - 22$ (really good condition, nos +3$)
7.62
Aluminum waffles - 60$ (nos)
Aluminum waffles - 50$ (used condition)
30 rnd izzy bake - 20$ (shit condition and may have rust)
30 rnd izzy bake - 26$ (good condition)
40 rnd rpk bake - 90$ (nos)
There are also izzy true blacks that I don't have a price for yet.
>>30947904
I'm having an m72 built soon. Can't wait for my NDS 9 to be shipped out
>>30947945
Not entirely wrong actually

>>30947997
how much do you expect for the whole thing to cost?
i was going to get go nds7 but all i can find are yugo parts kits lately

>>30947997

Sent an email senpai.

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>>30947997
When do you plan on doing it? Frienderino is getting back August 14th so I'm gonna start planning for baks from there

>$7 bak guy

>>30947997
How can I get into this buy? Do those prices include shipping?

Dumb question do you only do mag or other AK parts too? I'm in the process of converting my Saiga and need some stuff.

>>30948044
$150 for barrel, $350 for parts, $120 for receiver, $350 for build. Numrich has good yugo parts kits, and the m72 seems comfy to me. As for regular rpk kits, your best bet is gunbroker.
>>30948100
I plan on finishing up in a week or 2. Then it's the waiting game
>>30948273
Send me an email, [email protected]
There is a $20/order fee for domestic shipping but international shipping g is covered in the mag prices. As for AK parts, I don't do those. ITAR makes no mention of detachable ammunition feeding devices, but gun parts are a big no-no

>>30948432
When do you need payment from us? Before you order from russia? After you receive from russia and before you ship out to us?

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>>30946479
Paki tape. A translucent tape found in the middle east and used like ducted tape. Often used by the resident militants of the eastern 'stans for decoration on their AKs. Similar to how some in the states put painters tape on their ak mags because that's what the russians do.

What is the best caliber for killing black people ?

>>30947997
I'm going to shoot you a email but I want
1 45rnd bake
1 izzy
1 tula
> all 5.45

>>30949102
glawk .40 problum solva

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>>30948432
Sounds exciting, also I'll post in /akg/ and email everyone on the list for when I get a response to try to get things set up, I'm not sure if they'll end at $7 a piece but I'm not gonna let them get much higher than that, hopefully

>>30948432
Would you happen to have any bakes converted to 10rds for a commiefornia fag

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>>30949423
>10 round AK mags

Just cut your dick off and change your name to Susan.

>>30949423
>buy block
>put block in mag
>buy new spring
>cut spring
>????

>>30949365
And how does one get on your email list?
I'm interested in a few bakes for ~$7.
>like 20 in reality.

>>30949365
What for $7 a piece?

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>>30949468
>>30949483
5.45 bakelite magazines, mostly 30s, very few 45s. 30s are still up in the air but there is a super limited supply of 45s. [email protected]

>>30949529
Sent you an email. How many 45rd mags are available anyway?

>>30949529
Shit.
Was thinking it was 7.62x39.
Any chance of getting some of those?

>>30949651
Depends on what he says on the 14th/15th when he gets back, I'm hoping for a yes

>>30949714
Cool.
Email sent.

>>30940268
Sup /akg/, I'm in a bit of a dilemma, if you guys could give me some advice.
I am about to buy my first rifle and I've shot both ARs and AKs, I prefer shooting AKs but ARs are cool too.
The AK I want is ~$1200 (a NIB SLR106) while I could get an AR for sub $800 and have a pretty good setup for less than I would spend on the AK total.
I am a student with a okay amount of money to my name and little to no debt, but as a student I shouldn't spend so much in general.
Should I just go for an AR?

>>30949894
It depends what you want, why the fuck would we care? Do you like AKs or ARs better?

>>30949529
Which country are these coming from?

>>30949929
Well I want an AK but an AR seems more economically logical.

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>>30949969
Then get what you want, otherwise keep saving for it. Don't buy something because you feel forced to. I personally got an AR first because I felt somewhat pushed into it and ended up not really liking the platform much overall. I prefer my AK much more now that I have it, but it is much more expensive in today's America

>>30949935
Russia, old army stock he says for the 45s, I'll find out more about the 30s if it goes through

>>30949969
In the current market there is no practical reason to buy an AK unless it's just what you like or what you are already trained on.

>>30949992
So are you going to put then together or is that up to us?

>>30950008
What do you mean by put them together? If you mean deal I will be doing that, if you mean assembling a magazine you might have to do that with how shipping works

>>30950031
I meant assembling the mag.

Careful with how many you order at once. Bigger the shipment, more likely it is to get checked.

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>>30949894
Get a 106. ARs are boring

>>30950179
>>30949992
>>30949996
Thanks for the advice guys

>>30950138
Yep, have already dealt with that myself. I've got a half baked idea for how to legally get around that though, after Obongo's EOs getting an FFL 08 is gonna be a little bit harder, especially with the fucking 3000 dollar ITAR tax

>>30950283
You don't need ITAR to import parts/mags.

Source: I have an 08 and import mags all the time.

Your big problem with mags out of Russia is that Izhevsk will get denied 9/10 times, so you basically play form 6 roulette. Tulas will be fine if worded correctly.
Next is that most sellers in Russia don't actually have proper authority to export dual use goods, which is why they break them into parts.

It's such a fucking hassle that I often just have other people buy them into other countries so I can have them exported from there.
That's why there's so much room for guys to do these under the table shipments like you see on /k/ and the files. I completely support them, too, because fuck all that bureaucratic trash.

>>30950378
ITAR tax since the latest EO if I recall though, unless that was only related to manufacturing and not import, since it used to be export only. Also GETTING an FFL 08 now that kitchen counter FFLs are dead, I've got an 05 but can I tack on an 08 without hassle?

>>30950404
It's just for manufacturing.

It would be easier if you already have an 05, but still somewhat unlikely. I also hear the wait time on them nowadays is 6months to a year. You'll need AECA registration as well.
It's a lot of investment of money and time just to have them tell you "lol no russia" while someone else with connections gets their f6 approved.

I'm fortunate enough to have the cell numbers of most of the higher ups at ATF, so I can sometimes slide it through with some spin.

>>30950458
Damn, shitty. It's still a ways off since poorfag with little time anyways, I imagine by the time I really figure it out the situation will have changed for the better or worse. Thanks for the insight tho man

>>30950492
Yeah, it's really not a poorfag kinda game.
There's a big gap where the smaller sellers that have something you want to import don't have the licensing/ability to export and the big guys won't give you the time of day without big orders.

When people ask me, I usually tell them to be able to spend 100k or don't bother.

>>30943803
Be honest, have you even seen zenitco shit in person?

>>30949423
just google 10/30 ak mags

>>30947293
That's sexy, mate.

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Need to finish this

>>30947293
What state?

>>30951162
>>30951194
>guise guise I bought some plum mags in a group buy and post them multiple times in every single thread, and I cool like you guise yet???

Literally
K Y S
Y
S

>>30951194
Those are some pretty rough mags my dude.

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>>30951326
>guys I want attention for batching about pictures of aks in Akg.
Your first bud

>>30951344
I really don't care as long as they function. Some still need some cleaning

>>30951361
Holy shit the spelling errors
*bitching
*you

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Something that's been on my mind /akg/.

With AR's, there seems to be this obsession with making sure your rifle isn't overgassed. There are options for adjustable gas blocks, different length gas systems, heavier springs, heavier buffers, and other related options to make sure your rifle isn't subjecting itself to excessive wear and tear from having too overgassed of a system.

But for an AK, there isn't nearly as much of a focus on that, if at all. I keep hearing that the AK platform is inherently an overgassed one, but nobody ever seems to make so much of a fuss about it. Why is that?

And if possible, I'd like an answer that isn't "AVTOMAT OF KALASHNIKOVA NOT HOLD IN GAS LIKE WHORE AMERICAN WOMAN, IT LET OUT GASEOUS EXPULSIONS LIKE GLORIOUS FARTS OF THE PROLETARIAT!"

>>30951374
>Holy shit the spelling errors

>your

s m h f a m

>>30951388

AVTOMAT OF KALASHNIKOVA NOT HOLD IN GAS LIKE WHORE AMERICAN WOMAN, IT LET OUT GASEOUS EXPULSIONS LIKE GLORIOUS FARTS OF THE PROLETARIAT!

>>30951388
AVTOMAT OF KALASHNIKOVA NOT HOLD IN GAS LIKE WHORE AMERICAN WOMAN, IT LET OUT GASEOUS EXPULSIONS LIKE GLORIOUS FARTS OF THE PROLETARIAT!

>>30951388
AVTOMAT OF KALASHNIKOVA NOT HOLD IN GAS LIKE WHORE AMERICAN WOMAN, IT LET OUT GASEOUS EXPULSIONS LIKE GLORIOUS FARTS OF THE PROLETARIAT

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>>30951388
the AK is self regulating, the holes drilled in the gas block or gas tube will vent extra gas. ar's just push all the gas back into the bolt then it bleeds off the excess.
>>30951419
>>30951431
>>30951441
kek

>>30951388
Because the AR has been taken over by the hyper competitive three gun community in which every single microsecond and molecule of weight matters and by the tacticool mall ninjas who dump thousands of dollars on accessories for their gun and put maybe 100 rounds through it a year, and they both put an enormous autistic emphasis on things that frankly do not matter

I love my AR but the US market for ARs is saturated with expensive pointless shit and it makes me distance myself from the AR camp because of that. The AK remains (to a degree depending on who you're talking to) a simple rifle that doesn't need the bells and whistles that 9/10 ARfags believe a rifle "needs" in order for it to be a "modern" combat rifle (not that they'd ever see combat but that's their mindset). Your AR is overgassed? Is crooked in some way? Throws brass not in the correct angle? Spend money on a things to fix it and/or bitch about it on Arfcom. Your AK has any of those things? Who cares as long as it works, properly zeros, and doesn't have shit quality parts that will destroy themselves (like cast trunnions and peening bolt carriers).

tl;dr 9/10 AR owners live in a fantasy world where extremely unlikely things are bound to happen specifically to them so they need the absolute perfect rifle with all the latest bells and whistles while 9/10 AK owners simply enjoy the rifles for what they are and don't sweat the small things that don't make much of an issue

>>30951533

>I'm complaining about things concerning an AR-15 that happens on every other rifle ever, like my AK

Speaking of, what's a good holographic scope for my WASR?

>>30947613
Love this stuff. Specs/build info source? Can never find ak auto stuff outside of traditional conversions.

>>30951612
Maybe you misread. He didn't say that those issues didn't happen with other rifles, he just said that ARfags worry more about those issues than others.

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I got bored while waiting for my tax stamp so I did a thing, and I sorta like it.

>>30951838
How long you been waiting. Feb 25th here and still no tax stamp :(

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>>30943598
>>30943631
>>30943678
>>30943771
KREEEENK SKWAAAAAAAAD

>>30944040
>I have a gen 2 PSAK47
No you don't. They haven't released them yet

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>>30951976
>no cheese holes
For shame

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>Waiting on some plum and true black Izhmash mags to come in the mail

It never makes a difference how many times I buy mags, the excitement to rush home and check the mail is always there

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>>30951966
Submitted mine on the eyes of March, still nothing!

>>30951966
>>30952019
march as well, 2 cans 3 rifles.

>>30951838
Wew lad. Looks actually kinda neat. Almost reminds me of the AEK-971 in the aesthetics department

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>>30952000
Nigga, they've been out for months. How do you think Rob got one?

>>30952132
>out of stock
They haven't been *in* stock since they got put up.
>How do you think Rob got one?
They sent him one like manufacturers have done before?

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>>30952150
And yet they have reviews, people have purchased them, and even Rob said they were in stock when he bought his.

>>30952218
Well fuck you too, I never run into them when they're in stock and I don't trust PSA with my personal info considering they've had numerous data breeches in the past

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Howdy:

If you have a slant back AK receiver, what options exist to replace a crapcan stock?

Pic is very related - RPK style receiver.

If you post a reply, do so with one that is stock.

tl:dr: Can /k/ actually rejigger the stock on an RPK receiver into a genteel country club waifu through a valid product suggestion?

>>30952856
>If you post a reply, do so with one that is stock.
FUCK YOU, YOU'RE NOT MY REAL MOM! YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

>>30951473

That MRE better be Southwest Black Beans and Beef.

>>30952910

Just give me /k/'s wisdom on getting the GD thumbhole stock off it, with a replacement option that isn't a turd.

10/10 sassy reply though

>>30952939
theres slant adaptors for veprs, makes it a flat back

>>30952939
This: https://www.legionusa.com/vepr-slant-to-square-stock-adapter-sgm.html
Then add the stock of your choice.

>>30951361
That's a cheap NcSTAR chest rig, right? How does it hold up to use?

>>30950378

What do you describe tula mags as, and if it's 9/10 for Izzy mags how are all these bigger dealers getting them in, do you lie and they are mixed in the shipment?

>>30952988
It's actually a Vism rig tho it is cheap.
> pretty well/10
Not the most comfy bit functions great for hiking

>>30953030
Same thing just two different branding names. I'm just looking for cheapish pre-built rigs other than the Chicom and steered clear of them because they're pretty much an airshit brand.

>>30953014
I've had good luck with "30 rd. Magazines for Saiga and AK style rifles". If you explicitly say AK47, AKM, or AK74, it will likely not make it through. Don't lie, just be very general.

The guys I know of have done things ranging from mixing the izzys in on the bottom to claiming some bullshit on the F6 like "no way to know for sure where it was made because of outsourcing production in the USSR :^))))"

ATF doesn't actually check every shipment, even large ones. Didn't even crack open my last shipment of 20k.
It's just an expensive gamble to make with larger quantities.

>>30952969
>>30952975

Stock adapter answers appreciated, but surely someone makes a FUCKING SLANT STOCK that will fit an RPK style receiver.

Archangel make a stock that will, but I don't want to bolt an aluminum stock [or adapter] to the back of steel RPK if I can find a polymer or steel alternative.

Bolting aluminum to steel has the nasty galvanic corrosion issue.

>>30953163
>but surely someone makes a FUCKING SLANT STOCK that will fit an RPK style receiver.
Not a regular stock no. The old VEPR K's had a neat stock set up though but you can hardly find those.

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>>30953163
>FUCKING SLANT STOCK that will fit an RPK style receiver

Ironwood designs was working on one.
Not sure if they finished the design, and it doesn't appear to be on their site.
But you could send an email to them and see what they say.

>Matt from Ironwood Designs posted this in another forum:

"Also posted below is our new AKM butt stock for VEPR angle cut. No need for an adapter as the stock fits the receiver as it sits.
Part shown was an earlier test cut, and does not show the pistol grip relief cut, and does not show the sides of the front of the stock
trimmed down, closer to the receiver side surfaces.

This new AKM VEPR butt stock can be ordered at any time. We have yet to post it on the site, as I am waiting to do large scale site additions
after we have new, better pics. We will also be working on a std. AKM lower hand guard for VEPR, as I am aware of a lower HG conversion retaining
cap, so hang tight for those parts as well."

>>30941375
Real fuckin NATO bud

>>30940268
Someone said mini 30 bores come in at .308 and shouldnt be shooting foreign steel case ammo, which measures in around .311

Can anyone clear that up?

>>30952019
>the eyes of March

you stupid nigger

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>>30946064
Not a huge fan of my father's VZ2008. I've shot a decent number of rounds through it and dislike it more than both my AKM and my AK74. Is it a neat gun? Yes. Was it a good buy back when it was $400? A steal, really. Now a days? They're more expensive so you could possibly gain money in the sale, but no matter what you're not going to have enough to buy an AK worth having (personal opinion).

I'd go ahead and sell it just because I don't find them as fun or comfortable to shoot as AKMs, but if you enjoy it then why sell it?

>>30950586
After getting mine, I'm not really impressed and would go as far as to say he might even be correct to call them the MWI of AK products of the Russian world. Their quality isn't bad, but fuck are some of their things poorly thought out. Seriously, I need four or five different hex keys and two or three different flatheads to take apart my stock? That's fucking ridiculous.

>>30951838
I sorta like it as well.

>>30953832
for all intensive purposes...........

>>30951388

Significant variations in the AR's cartridge load and bullet weights, not to mention widely differing variations in its configuration, require options to adjust the gas system, or at least mitigate an already overgassed system.

Most AK's are going to be pretty uniform, have the same length gas system, and the cartridges are generally going to be the same weight and powder charge, which will generally not be as high of a pressure as 5.56x45 anyway. There isn't much that needs to be adjusted.

>>30954625
They would be better if they took ak mags.

>>30952000
You calling me a liar?
>>30952132
>>30952150
>>30952218
>>30952280
Thank you anon

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>>30955263

Not the guy calling you out, but post pics.

I wanna see what this thing looks like compared to my SLR-107fr.

>>30951388

>Direct Impingement versus piston operation
>More delicate internal mechanism requires a finer tuning than the robustly designed AK

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>>30955277

>>30953118

Would this work if I try to import just like 5 mags, will I need to pay I saw something about for personal use there is no fee.

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>>30955277
>>30955326

Why do some people censor thier rifles serial number in photos? What does it prevent?

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What model is this?

>>30955383
Polytech something

>>30955326
>>30955343
>bumpski stock

Neat. Does it have an optics rail mount?

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>>30955248
They would look better but it would add more weight to the rifle, thus losing one of the few advantages it truly has for the sake of cross-compatibility. I think they're a unique rifle, but I don't think they're worth getting over an AK since the crap ones are now $600 and the good ones are around $1100.

>>30955383
Type 56-2.

>>30955401
You mean the side rail?
Yes. It works. Took some force to get a mount on though. scraped off some metal getting it on. but its a tight fit.
Also forgot to mention on my op. I zeroed it and I had to move the front sight post is all the way to the right. Front sight doesnt appear to be canted. possibly the front trunion.

>>30953829
7.62x51 is .308

7.62x54R
" " X39
.303 British are .311

>>30943439
Its really nice either way i loved folding my 106. Its ruined me really cause now i wont buy a gun unless it has an option to fold and to the left

Guys. Vepr 7.62x39 or an Arsenal AK?

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No based god OPAPS?

sad day.

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>>30955737
>century grip

>>30954724
oh, it's like that. guess I should stop taking things for granite.

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>>30956244
>granite

>>30956264
yeah. don't be such a pre Madonna.

>>30955375
Someone reporting the number as stolen.

>>30951838

I swear this is what I want to do to my Arsenal..... I've BEEN wanting to do that because I'm too lame to find an AK 105 clone.

Form 1 SBR application; for the model should I put the box model or the SKU?
>SLR-107CR
>SLR107-61

>>30956561
SKU is Stock Keeping Unit, so basically an inventory control number. It is not the model number. They could change the SKU for that model to 123ABC if they wanted.
If it were me, I would put SLR-107CR which is actually the model number.

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>>30946064
I wouldn't trade a 100% working vz2008 for any common $500-600 ak. I think they're nicer in a lot of small ways, like their weight/size, especially if you have both the fixed/folder stocks on hand to switch out at will.
If you want dat ak, I'd sooner consider selling it and putting that money towards an arsenal or something where you have all the modern ak features like folding stock(not nearly as quick and easy to deploy as the vz) and ak-74 style brake. Or just towards a legit vz.
My cz vz58 is my #1 gun by a long shot, but I've used a friend's vz2008 enough to have an opinion. And the legit vz is quite a bit nicer all around and you shouldn't draw any conclusions on the vz58 from anything you find misfitted on the vz2008. But they do the basic task of shooting equally well if you remove the slant brake from the vz2008. I was clanking my 400 yard steel just the same with GT ammo, it was hitting feet up and right(IIRC) when the slant was on.

>>30956792
Not calling you a liar, but I find it difficult to believe that the brake would affect point of impact since the impulse on the brake from the gas wouldn't really begin until after the bullet has left the barrel.

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Shots fired

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>>30956834

>>30956841
>Warranty product for life
>Design product that kills the user when it dramatically fails so the "lifetime" warranty expires

>>30956829
Call me whatever you want, but I'm NEVER going to allow a slant brake to be on a gun of mine from this point forward.
I wouldn't have thought it would effect it so bad either. But I could see where the dust was kicking up on the first 5 or 10 shots out there.
We unscrewed the brake, and clank clank clank clank clank, and the impacts were all pretty near each other.
From video I've seen(not specifically with aks), some gas does often escape ahead of the bullet and I'd have to assume that gas screws with the bullet since slant brakes don't channel it evenly. It seems to me like it could push on the bullet a bit because of that.

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>>30956829
>Not calling you a liar
>>30956892
>Call me whatever you want

YOU ARE NOT A LIAR!
OK? I was just saying, I don't understand how it could happen, but your explanation does make some sense.

OK /akg/, what are the differences between the scope mounts on aks? Will a pso scope fit on a Bulgarian ak?
http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/posp/svd-psl-tigr-romak-3/pso-1m2-1-w-bdc-elevation-turret-400-m-rangefinder-light-hammer-finish-svd.html

>>30956834
>>30956841
>>30956872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ix-gdXKmLY
Here is video about it

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>>30956841
Fucking Based Tyron

>>30956922
Sounds like I.O are butthurt as fuck

>>30956917
Never thought you were, but I figured I'd explain why I think the way I do.

>>30956925
>IO definately better than Arsenal
Ok, while I give Arsenal a bunch of shit regarding their shortcomings, this retard saying IO is anywhere near an Arsenal or even a fucking screwbuild is laughable at best and dangerous at least.

This is the definition of a "casual gun owner"
He buys 20 rounds from Walmart and thinks he's got "enough" ammo.

Fuck Richard Castillo.
>Yes, I'm mad as fuck

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> getting so desperate looking for romanian parts kits that I want to give up and get a century

just fucking end me senpai

>>30956995
I'm so pissed I got the guy's name wrong.
>Fuck Matt Beiter

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>>30956919
>OK /akg/, what are the differences between the scope mounts on aks?
Use the correct one from the start, never buy an svd scope for an ak. I guess you can buy an adapter to make it right like pic related, but this was mainly worth it when svd mount scopes were 100 bucks each, so I got a scope setup I liked better than any posp I've pwmed for cheap.
>Will a pso scope fit on a Bulgarian ak?
Technically yes even with the svd mount, but it'll be uncomfortably low and block your irons. I love having my irons easy to use even when scoped.

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Got rid of the hotdog bun.

>>30955334
Just have the seller include an invoice with with a total value under $100 and mark the declared value the same.

As long as it's under 100 and not intended for resale, you're fine.
Of course, izzys are still sanctioned, but there's almost no chance they'll check.

>>30956996
Romanian government is asking stupid prices for the surplus guns right now, so no one is buying them.

>>30957018
So what scope should I look for for an ak then? I like the 3-4x magnification scopes, and I don't mind putting it on and taking it off since that's how they were designed to be used. Is the only difference the height or does the length of the mount matter?

To the I.O. Inc haters...

You.
Yes, you. The one screaming, "They're overgassed!" and "Uli Wiegand lied to us!" and other slurs I dare not mention.
Tread lightly.
You are one. We are hundreds, thousands. Millions. You aren't just IN the minority; you ARE the minority.
I don't feel awkward or anxious shooting my I.O. AKs around others, and your words don't affect me. Many others, however, are coming out of their shells for the first time in their lives. This is the first time many are enjoying the beautiful world of guns that has been manufactured for us by I.O. - and it IS beautiful. Incredibly so. DON'T ruin this for them. We I.O. owners may have our differences, but we will not hesitate to come to the aid of our fellow enthusiasts, especially against someone who so virulently slurs that which has brought us all together.
Don't take this the wrong way. I don't hate you. I don't fear you.
I pity you.
I'm sorry that you feel this way towards us. I'm sorry that I.O. Inc is such a bane to your existence. And I'm sorry that you are missing out on such a wonderful experience. Mostly, though, I'm sorry that you feel the need to go around and publicly chastise and berate others. I'm sorry that, to ensure your own validity, you need to make others feel invalid. I'm sorry that your self-worth is so infinitesimally miniscule that you have to make others feel less-than-human, at least in your own denatured mind, just to feel whole. I am truly sorry that day-in and day-out you have to put up with your worthless, meaningless, Shakespearean tragedy of a life.
I ask you politely to cease your unnecessary cries for attention, and instead invite you to join our ranks. Throw away your WASR, buy an I.O. Inc AK, and breathe in the splendour and the amazement of your first round fired, and then, maybe, just maybe, you'll see what you've been so hopelessly searching for this whole time.

>>30957305
Please tell me this is copypasta...

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>>30957305
A deal's a deal I.O.!

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>>30957274
>So what scope should I look for for an ak then?
I can only speak for pso/posps, since that's the look I like. I've used romanian surplus 4x24, posp 6x24, and posp 8x48. Pic related. And I'd never suggest a x48 scope because they're just too heavy and bulky.
My main preference(also they used to be only 100 bucks) is the romanian pso scopes and an adapter if needed. Even without the price difference, I like them better than posps I've used. I have them on 4 rifles now, and have ditched my posps. I love the 54r bdc built into the top turret, it seems to work fine with smaller calibers too within a few hundred yards.
At this point, I'd just get a 4 or 6x24 posp with an ak mount. Preferably one meant specifically for 762x39 if you shoot that caliber.
I've come to love the 4x most of all because I never lose sight of my target when I fire, and I have a huge field of view. I can definitely see why the commies made 4x the military standard for their DMRs. It's plenty of zoom to do the job and lets you see a lot of ground.

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>>30957305
You're always good for a laugh, Chimps.

>>30957305
9.9^9/10

Jesus, I didn't realize that IO made other guns too. They even make ARs.

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2012/8/15/io-inc-hellcat/

>There is also no manual safety, magazine disconnect or drop safety. The Hellcat can fire with the magazine removed or if dropped or struck with a live round in the chamber. Given these limitations, the manufacturer warns the pistol should be carried with an empty chamber. For concealed carry, it may be advisable to train by drawing the gun and then racking the slide to chamber a round before firing.

>>30957401
Are there any made for 5.45? And is there a specific name for the AK mount or should I look for universal?
>>30957342
Sauce?

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>>30957525
>Are there any made for 5.45?
I think there's some scope made for it, but I don't think it was a posp. I've seen them in akg a few times before.
>And is there a specific name for the AK mount or should I look for universal?
Just make sure it looks like an ak mount. It'll probably say the mount type right on the site you buy it from too.

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>>30957274

http://www.apexgunparts.com/scopes-and-mounts/night-vision-nsp-3-scope-w-wooden-transit-case-acc-very-good-to-excellent.html

>>30956834
I do wonder why Rob isn't sending it back.

>>30957594
How much do those weigh? They look heavy as hell.

>>30957596
Probably so they can't just cherry pick a "good" one to send back to pretend he just got a lemon.

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>w-what's that muzzle device?

so RAS47 will blow up in my face after a simple striker missile test
> 2016
> not doing this test on all of your firearms
ISHYGDDT

what is the consensus on C39V2?

Been looking to get a DMR rifle in the AK patten for some time now. Is the vepr pretty much the the only feasible rifle I could get in the states, or are there other rifles that perform similarly in the AK pattern?

>>30958562
I mean, you could get a PSL, but they are not worth the price at all.

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What's the best barrel length to treat an AK like a DMR? I read before that an 18in barrel is best for 7.63x39 and 20in for 5.45 but is 20in best for both calibres or is the full size 24in best? Has there even been velocity tests and group measurements for 20-24in AKs? Google is not my friend.

>>30958602
7.62x39 is not a good "dmr" candidate. Start over

>>30958602
Generally, you want a 23.3" rpk length barrel to get the look right.
But seriously, even a 16in barrel will do you just fine up to 400 yards. I use 4x optics and it works just fine.
Just use ammo like golden tiger proven to actually reach full 762x39 velocities from a 16in barrel. Also, I find it to be pretty dead accurate for 25c/r ammo.

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>>30958446
Looks like one of those 4-prong flash hiders, something like pic related.

http://www.krebscustom.com/products/19/Krebs-Custom-4-Prong-Flash-Suppressor-for-AKM-AK74-Rifles-14x1-Thread

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Anyone ever heard of Lee Armory? Thoughts?

https://www.coppercustom.com/shop/rifles/lee-armory-polish-premium-fixed-stock-ak-47/

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>>30958617
The Tabuk DMR says you're wrong.

>>30942352
You should replace foregrip with wood and make back stock synthetic black.

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>>30958781
>kebabs
>remover
pick
>also SVD

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>>30958730
Lel, no.
How does that 6" barrel extension look anything like that 4 prong?

It looks like something like this to me

>>30958855
He was talking specifically about 7.62x39 not being a DMR.
The M76 and SVD are clearly not in that caliber.

>>30958910
Precisely.

I mean you could attempt to accurize an AKM for the role, but you're still limited by the cartridge itself.

>why not scope an AK-74?
>why not seek out a legit bloc DMR?
>what are you gaining with the extra barrel length? 60ft/s?
>why?

Just because Iraq couldn't afford to produce new magazines, tooling for barrels, ammunition for a proper DMR, doesn't mean that the Tabuk idea is good.
>inb4 historical interest

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>>30958889
>a four prong
>that four prong
Those are different things.

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>>30959109
I really do think it's A four prong though. See those

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>>30959123
*See those little nubs on the end in the picture?

If you really don't think it's a four prong though, maybe something in pic attached.

>>30959136
It does look like the end of that phantom.
Still don't think it's a 4 prong though.
But without a better resolution pic, we're just throwing guesses out anyway.
No harm in that.

New thread

>>30959409

>>30959409

>>30959409

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>>30958446
>you can't escape UTG bullshit even in the Middle East now

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>>30958781
>thigh holster
>flashlight mounted on the side rail
>probably one of those shitty UTG tri-rail side mounts to begin with

Why is there so much shitty tacticool in the ME now?