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[New to the Game? Read first, ask later]

Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air superiority calculator/fleet builder:
http://aircalc.net
http://kancollecalc.web.fc2.com/air_supremacy.html
http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html

Combat mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me

Drop/construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList

Voices/sprites/furniture preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/silfumus/ElectronicObserver

PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s
https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI
https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA

The KanColle movie is out. Movie trailers: https://youtu.be/7udGu_a0AvY
https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E
https://youtu.be/aTxaSuB_Fv8

News:
-The Autumn 2016 Event has ended.
-All Late Autumn and Wine of Autumn voice lines have been removed (except for Pola, who also keeps her sprite), and replaced with Christmas sprites, voice lines and furniture, including over 20 new Christmas lines.
-The following ships get new Christmas sprites: Kuma, Maruyu, Akashi, Commandant Teste, Tone Kai 2 and Chikuma Kai 2. Akashi gets a new sprite at the cash item shop, but not at her upgrading factory.
-Akebono gets a new sprite at Kai.
-Jet aircraft, as well as a new system for them, have finally been implemented. Nakajima Kikka and Funshiki Keiun Kai are the first two jets in the game. Jets consume steel while in use, and can be equipped on both land bases and armoured CVs.
-In the new aerial system, jets take part in an additional "jet assault" phase before the standard aerial phase. Jets are less susceptible to normal aircraft than to ship anti-air. Jets that survive this phase can partcipate in the aerial phase later.
-F4F-3, F4F-4 and the Prototype Keiun can now be improved. F4F-3 can be upgraded to F4F-4, and the Prototype Keiun to Funshiki Keiun Kai.
-A new blueprint for new model aircraft has been implemented. It and the Ne-Type engine can both be obtained from completing quests, but not from the cash shop.
-10 new quests have been added. Three of them respectively award a prototype Keiun, either a Type 2 Seaplane Fighter or a PBY-5A Catalina, and a Kikka Kai. Four other quests, including two submarine expedition quests, reward a total of two new model aircraft blueprints and two Ne-Type engines.
-Shortland and Rabaul have been expanded. You are now able to register for the game directly through Android, without needing a PC.
-The next Kai 2 will be for a CA. Saratoga will also get a second remodel, along with F4F (Wildcat) planes being upgradable to F6F (Hellcat) planes.
-The 5th year of KanColle will see foreign ships from "interesting places". Matsukaze, Hatakaze and/or Yuunagi will also be implemented early next year.
-New submarines, Akizuki- and Matsu-class destroyers, and escort carriers are also under plans to be added.
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Also update today which isn't mentioned in the OP
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First pic for Inazuma.
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>>16295224

Replying for Kai Ni never.
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>>16295229
Replying for fuck you, kai ni someday.
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>>16295151
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I'm going to poke this girl and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
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Will pic related be in the movie or did she arrive too late or something?
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Why isn't Isuzu popular even though she's stacked like a cow?
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>>16295307
Isuzu had her fifteen minutes back when everyone was farming her for radar and AA modernization.
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>>16295307
But she still gets a decent amount of artwork for an oldship.
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>>16295303
Are you being serious? The movie has been out for like a month and we already know the cast and no, no foreign ships.
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>>16295303
No foreign ships not even Germans.
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>>16295307

There are many ships with cowtits. They can't all be popular.
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>>16295307
She used to be.
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>>16295303
No and even if she arrived in time she is one of the worst girls added to the game in a long time.
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>>16295303
What does sex with French girls be like?
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>>16295312
Also all of her gimmicks got hijacked by other ships. She's very much a 2nd stringer, and even if she does that job amazingly well, she'll never have the popularity of the 1st rate ships.
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>>16295373
Smelly
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Why does all official Kancolle material have all the depth of a particularly shallow puddle?
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>>16295395
It's a sellout franchise. Of course they won't put effort on making the character have depth. Just stick a quirk on them so that people can remember who she is by what she do and somehow it translates as character.
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>>16295395
They'd need to take risks to go deeper. Some businesses just prefer safer bets.
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>6-4
>Starts on the right
>If focus all bombers on boss node, Node C will send me back
>If put bombers on Node C and boss, I can't even scratch the boss

So how do i clear it. Is my ship and loadout needs some adjustment?
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>>16295462
How can you expect to do anything at the boss when you don't even have AS?
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>>16295395
I don't understand, what puddle?
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Tell me about this fine young lady.
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Houshou accepts on your marriage proposal on one condition, you have to beat her in a shooting contest.
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>>16295478
She's a shitty old hag.
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>>16295462
why in the world would you go triple WG Ooyodo?
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>>16295471
So i have to start on the west for that?
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>>16295489
Alright first of all, west is the left side which is where your fleet currently starts. Second of all, you can get AS while starting at A/B very easily.
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>>16295487
Because i don't know any better. Any suggestions?
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>>16295462
Yes, what the fuck are those Ooyodo, Kasumi and Ooshio setups and where is your seaplane fighter mule.
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>>16295480
I can easily beat her.
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>>16295494
Read the wiki.
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>>16295493
Sure, because nothing stops my AS+ on that node. But what comes after that is a bit of a tough one. Anything i'm missing out?
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>>16295501
Where's your seaplane fighter mule?
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>>16295500
I do. And 6-4 didn't tell me any suggestions on Ooyodo.
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>>16295501
>But what comes after that is a bit of a tough one.
Didn't I just tell you that you can get AS at the boss?
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>>16295497
A good archer is naturally a good shooter, and Japanese archery is very high level. Good luck with that.
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>>16295494
>I don't know what double attack is
How do you get a 99 Ooyodo and not know about basic game mechanics.
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>>16295510
Don't need luck.
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When does the movie come out?
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>>16295507
Do you expect the wiki to spell out compositions and equipment set ups for you? Use your brain a little.
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>>16295507
Go back a few threads. Someone literally went through the equipment options and their benefits/downsides.
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>>16295480
I would I want to marry a short flat old hag?
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>>16295515
Last month.
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>>16295511
Because i use 2 guns+plane+radar all the time.
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>>16295520
A fresh home cooked meals and clean house every day.
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Did you pick left or right?
Or none?
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>>16295523
Then what made you think it was a good idea to not use double attack with WG?
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>>16295525
Any other girl except Hiei and Isokaze could handle that.
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>>16295494
>>16277610
>>16277520
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>>16295526
Right isn't worth it.
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>>16295526
Depends if you are a corrupt military elite or a conglomerate of people who hated this part of corrupt military faction
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>>16295526
Left because right reminds me of that massive whore Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Monroe was basically the first degenerate whore in America.
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>>16295536
>comparing Saracchi to Titans just because of the color scheme
Fuck you zeek scum, left isn't even EFSF or Londo Bell colors.
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>>16295462
Literally what the fuck are you doing? I used this and cleared in 16 runs.
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>>16295526
I love both, but I remodeled because stats matter.
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>>16295543
You got lucky without the seaplane mule.
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>>16295526
Right has evasion of level 4 DD.
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>>16295533
>>16295528
>>16295517
>>16295516
>>16295508
>>16295495
>>16295471
Thanks for the heads up.
Wikia isn't that great to begin with, that's why i ask you guys. You, being rough on me, keeps me going.
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>>16295553
If you actually bothered to read the combat page you wouldn't be making such retarded mistakes. The wikia even gives you the fleet comp that most people use, setting up their equipment shouldn't be rocket science unless you didn't read the combat page.
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>>16295551
Wouldn't call 16 runs lucky. And it's not like the boss gets artillery spotting so AS hardly matters.
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>>16295486
Warspite is 17!
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>>16295564
>Wouldn't call 16 runs lucky
I would, even with AS at the boss.
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>>16295569
>slapping Kamikaze's joke on this old hag
Weak
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>>16295570
I must have been super lucky then.
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>>16295569
Her small chest certainly looks like a 17 year old but she's definitely an old hag.
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>>16295395
Small c etc etc.

>>16295462
>>Starts on the right
Nigga what.

Of all the ships only Kasumi's and Akizuki's setup look fine.
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Maint in half a hour, early warning for expeditions.
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>>16295551
Seaplane mule isn't necessary. LBAS can basically destroy everything at the boss with 1 fighter / 3 bombers.
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>>16295569
Sarachii died at 17 to 20 depending what Dat you count as her birthday. Warspite on the other hand was over 30 and would have been scrapped soon if not for the war.
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>>16295542
I think he meant the similarities with Gundam Mk.II.

Then again, there's some difference in color scheme.
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>37 runs to clear 6-5 this month

Please tell me this purged all my future bad luck for next event.
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>>16295588
You need to git gud, I do it in 10 runs every month.
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>>16295588
>failing that often at the boss

The fuck, did you forget to send LBAS there.
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>>16295480
Sarachii is a superior wife.
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>>16295592

Nope, all natural bred chokes from my girls. Like KTKM doing double scratch at the boss, Yamato leaving NOT-KAGA at red and then the rest missing or attacking a single taiha enemy left. Truly horrible

BTW, I posted my setup last thread already >>16293022 so there is nothing to "git gud" about it. RNG simply decided to make me suffer like a bitch this month.
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>>16295610
You didn't love your girls hard enough.
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>>16295588
Gambler's fallacy.

I fared badly this month, but I don't seriously think it'd have improved my luck better for the event.
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>>16295631

I know man, I'm just making a grim joke out of my fucking bad luck.
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So how many suprise kai nis have they planned for Christmas?
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>>16295648
2, for 2016-2017 Christmas period.
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>>16295677
And I thought /u/ was delusional
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>>16295677
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Time for rest, admiral.
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>>16295689
Stop posting.
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>>16295462
Easy shit, but you seriously want to have artillery spotting and night recon, even if it's just for the BB.
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>>16295696
You're utterly delusional if you think they're going to give us more than one kai ni. That CA kai ni.
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>>16295648
Zero, that is the surprise.
Merry Christmas!
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Is Kasumi K2B worse than her K2?

I researched on Himeuta and found this:
>Kasumi Kai Ni is the one that's got the high NB and is 100% worth using, Kasumi Kai Ni Otsu is weaker in night battle than Akatsuki Kai Ni, Murakumo Kai ni and Fubuki Kai Ni which put her in an awful position because she also loses the advantage of FCF for a meh AACI. IMO Kasumi Kai Ni should have only been a strong night battler, and the Daihatsu/FCF/Large Radars all only on K2B meaning you have the trade of a strong night battler or a decent DD with lots of extra stuff to do. Honestly K2B is right now pretty worthless because her AACI isn't even that good and you make a lot of sacrifices to get it. Which is part of why I think her having an alternate form is a frustrating waste.
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>>16295697
>Tone seaplane mule
>Sanshiki
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>>16295704
You're fucking retarded and can't read. Pay attention to numbers you imbecile. As expected of shitposters who tries to blame /u/ for everything. Kill yourself.
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>>16295720
Last I went there they admitted to being delusional though. At least they're self aware.

And for the record, Christmas period would have ended long before next January. We won't be seeing more than one kai ni by then.
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>>16295710
Depends on the situation, K2B is better at LoS and at killing landbased enemies.
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>>16295710
Only time B is better is when you're starved for LoS like that 2-5 monthly.
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>>16295710
There're autists here who think K2B is worth it just for the ability to carry large radars.

>>16295731
K2 is better at killing installations. Only thing where K2B is better is LoS.
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>>16295731
>and at killing landbased enemies.

How? They can both use tanks and B has less firepower.
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>>16295710
It's not like there isn't too many yasen specialists or anything. She's good for T32 radar muling in support expedition.
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>>16295710
Final remodels are always better. What you quoted was written by a cretin who has no idea how game works and most likely kusos his way through events.
>thinking FCF is important for DD
>ever considering Kasumi's AACI

Kai Ni B is almost the same power as Kai Ni while offering higher utility thanks to ability to euip big radars. She also looks much better.
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>>16295708
Tanaka ruins Christmas!
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>>16295737
>>16295740
Oh right, it's Asashio that can only equip the amphibious tanks with D.
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>>16295741
>She's good for T32 radar muling in support expedition.

Which is useless because that will only affect her own accuracy. Just use Poi instead.
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>>16295744
>155
>142
>almost the same power
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>>16295716
>36HP/42 armor/60 evasion
>59HP/79 armor/80 evasion and 4 slots
It was a great choice.
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>>16295756
He's the cretin guy, what'd you expect?

K2B's use is absolutely situational.
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>>16295756
She has 63/59 firepower, retard.
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Its down, what do I do now!?
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>>16295754
Or you can be that guy and go triple FuMO, I just used the T32 example because that's what most people have.
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>>16295759
You say that as if Akitsushima can't make it to the boss. If your Akitsushima can't make it to the boss then you're doing something wrong that has nothing to do with her.

>>16295768
You didn't say firepower.
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>>16295765
Stop shitposting.
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>>16295772
Play an actual video game ;^)
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>>16295768
Because we all know torpedo doesn't matter.
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>>16295774
Akitsushima was the problem, she couldn't tank a Ru hit or the air nodes, much less evade them.
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>>16295774
I didn't say yasen power either. Learn into context instead of nitpicking for the sake of it.
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She's looking pretty happy.
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>>16295787
Bruh..
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>>16295780
Exactly. And where it matters, you would rather use other DDs than Kasumi.
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>>16295787
Nice level 1 sink
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>>16295744
Except the only time Kai 2B is better is when you need LoS and don't want to make someone a radar/seaplane mule when you can just put a T32 on her like in 2-5 monthly and very few transport maps. In other words, it's completely situational.
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What level should my DDs be for the next even on hard?
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>>16295796
ASW DDs until they can do OASW, which is kind of high depending on the girl. Also level high LoS girls because too many people still fail LoS checks for some reason.
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>not duping Kasumi
Guys.
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>>16295796
155.
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>>16295805
>using Kasumi outside of that shitty monthly in the first place

Dude.
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>>16295772
I dunno... Eat, maybe?
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>>16295808
>not using Kasumin in final maps
You're a piece of shit.
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>>16295805
I duped Poi, Ayanami and Asashio. I don't see the need to dupe any more DDs.
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>>16295772
Shitpost in /jp/ about elite DDs.
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>>16295815
I like it. Everyone secretly pushes their favorite elite.
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>>16295795
Except for every day use the difference is minimal and not necessarily for worse (slightly less power but better survivability) so you might as well keep her in much better looking and situationally useful form.

The job you want Kasumi Kai Ni to do is done better by other DDs so it's pretty useless. Kai Ni B has some use.
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i wish the kancolle anime was about a loser playing the kancolle game and shitposting on 2ch all day
do you even rank bro?
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>>16295822
You wish. I don't post about my favorite DD precisely because there are some shitposters here.
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>>16295744
>She also looks much better.
Those asymmetrical skin tone socks do wonders.
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>>16295822
The only true indisputable elite is Asashio, she's good at basically everything.
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>>16295823
>in much better looking
Jesus Christ are the red straps and Ten-Gou socks really that much better for you? It's fucking nothing.
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>>16295776
Tell me how many people who used light fleet for autumn E4 used Kasumi K2B just for LoS, then we'll talk.
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>>16295828
The red parts of her backpack increase her sexiness expotentially.
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>>16295827
I know this feeling as well.
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>>16295837
Not him, but the headband makes it for me.
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>>16295840
Umm, what? Could you maybe articulate your point instead of asking random questions?
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>>16295823
Just admit you just like the sprite more. I keep her at B for that reason alone too.
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>>16295796
Levels don't matter.
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>>16295854
But I admitted it. However rest of what I said is true as well.

No, the game isn't so simple and I won't let some people dumb it down to "hurr, only yasen power matters" and especially the autistic breed of them who go crazy over damage cap and completely disregard everything else. All the little advantages of K2B do have some impact on performance of Kasumi and fleet with her in general.
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>>16295850
My point is, even if you needed LoS, which is the only advantage that K2B has over K2, that does not necessarily mean you'd use her.

You vastly overrate LoS as an advantage.
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>>16295865
They do now that opening ASW before opening torps is a thing.
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>>16295840
Ironically, I used her for LoS and AACI because I think Saiun alone wasn't enough for the LoS check.
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>>16295837
Yes, those things aren't big but they do improve her art a lot.
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>>16295677
>2 kai nis in the next 17 days
lel no
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>>16295876
Was Saiun actually helpful? I think Red-T on preboss nodes were more beneficial.
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>>16295870
>which is the only advantage that K2B has over K2
I told you. Stop shitposting.

>inb4 those stats don't matter
They do. And her firepower matters even less when you compare her to Poi or even Ooshio.

You vastly oversimplify everything.
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>>16295873

Next event will require you to use a DDless fleet to route to the boss, forcing you to use the new ASW LBAS gimmick.
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>>16295789
Not really. If it's 3 DD in escort fleet either Shigure or Kasumi works equally fine alongside Ayanami and Yukikaze, assuming you lack luck modded DDs.
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>>16295902
I can hardly wait for it to be absolutely useless and needing three maintenances to fix it in the middle of the event!
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>>16295710
k2 is rei-go kasumi and k2b is ten-go kasumi
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>>16295908
>37 luck
>equally fine as 50 luck
No.
Even if I used Kasumi, I'd rather put DA on her because luck that isn't above 40 can't be trusted. Not to mention events favor having one Akizuki-class in the fleet.
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>>16295894
>DAY 4
Something went horribly wrong for you, I got it down in 13 runs.
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>>16295927
Or something just went horribly right for you.
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>>16295902
DD/CLless for short, safe route, plus 2x CVL and bomber-equipped BBV/CAV to guarantee preboss to boss. Boss is enemy combined fleet with multiple So-class
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>>16295894
You must have been quite lucky. Red T puts Ru flagship in the sweet spot where they don't proc sinking protection on your DDs and simply hit them for ~25 straight to taiha.
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>>16295931
>SS Hime in the main fleet
>either dedicate the escort fleet to ASW or sacrifice land base space for ASW bomber
>S rank for new ships
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>>16295648
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>1 year later
>only gumo without a proper seasonal
What's Fujikawa's problem? Even Asashimo got a completely new outfit.
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>>16295940

>Map Reward is the first Escort Carrier, who can attack subs with their opening airstrike but not any other type of ship.
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>>16295891
I think he meant 2 K2s between Christmas 2016 and Christmas 2017.
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>>16295972
She knows Makigumo is the worst gumo.
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>>16295823
>The job you want Kasumi Kai Ni to do is done better by other DDs so it's pretty useless. Kai Ni B has some use.

So would you also say that for example Shimakaze is worse than Mutsuki because other DDs are better at killing things than her but Mutsuki is the best at expeditions?
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>>16295927
I had 3 other runs earlier where Yukikaze sent limp torpedoes towards the boss
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>>16295809
Hey, I'll have some of that.
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>>16296084
What ship is that??
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>>16295151
The update will surely fix the jets, right? I burned too many baux just for this shit.
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>>16296088
The one that won't get a kai ni until gnu gets a kernel.
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メンテナンス状況:メンテナンス実施中です。
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I want to marry Suzuyan.
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>>16295974
As compensation, they'll deal 500% damage against heavy cruisers-but only with 5-inch guns.
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>>16296112
[sluttiness intensifies]
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>>16296098
They're fighter-bombers and you're sending them alone vs the entire enemy air force and anti-air, we just need to wait for normal fighters and to have more jets in general so they're not outnumbered that badly.
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>>16296112
I hope they are not just doing this for one CG.
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>>16294400
>Kamikaze Kai has her own entry
FUCK I NEED TO FARM HER NEXT EVENT
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>>16296098
But they already work exactly as intended.
>>16296127
But we've already established that all WW2-era jets were shit.
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>>16296135
Did you scrap her before remodelling or something?

End yourself.
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Now we just need 1 more piece of Suzuya
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>>16296191
Just draw in the line of cum dripping down her throat.
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Why does the cuteness of a ship have an inverse relationship to her usefulness?
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>>16295899
If not for K2B being able to carry large radars people would certainly take K2 over K2B, no doubt about that. You claim yasen power isn't the only thing that matters, and it isn't, but you speak as if it doesn't matter at all. People oversimplify everything to firepower/yasen power/AACI/tank carrying ability because at the end of the day, everything else is only good as a tiebreaker. This is one of those games where the ability to deal damage is far more important than the ability to tank it (with the exception of AACI). It's not without a reason that CLTs are still vastly favoured over CAs when not fighting installations.

>AA
Fine, calculate how many extra planes it'll shoot down. You're sounding like the guy who finds ships like Fubuki or Hatsushimo useful because of muh AA.
>armour
I'll give you that but +2 armour is really insignificant. Every time the devs buff armour the reaction is "wow it's fucking nothing". They'd rather firepower or torpedo be buffed.
>evasion
You know that the effective evasion is floored, right? 92 evasion on Kasumi is functionally the same as 90.

>firepower
It's true that firepower matters more than torpedo, but torp only doesn't matter at all against installations. Other times it does matter.

>>16295926
Your choice. I have no problems with 37 luck. It's just 3 less than Ayanami anyway.

>>16296041
If you're a dupefaggot, seems like it, at least according to a chink thread.
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>>16296206
>cute
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>>16296206
If only she didn't have the top-bottom perspective.
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>>16296231
Looks pretty cute to me.
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>>16296250
Looks like Pola's FAS-afflicted daughter.
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>>16296250
looks pretty uguu
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>>16296206
She'd make a great alarm clock
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>>16296231
Would fuck her.
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>>16296276
That would be a crime, and not because of her age.
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>>16295808
>>16295813
I will use her if she is useful, otherwise I won't.
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>>16296287
Ships don't have any rights though. It'd be like saying I can't have sexual relations with a table or shoe.
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>>16296309
I thought boats were worth three-fifths of a human.
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>>16296231
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>>16296328
Girls that have to pee are my fetish.
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>>16295976
>only Aoba and Saratoga for the next year
Wew

Seriously though, the time period he's referring to starts in late November/early December (when the advent calendar starts) and ends either January 6 or 8 next year.
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Biggest jobber.
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Do you clean your ship girls?
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>>16296333
Are you me?
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Where's my Aoba Kai Ni preview? Two years ago Ashigara got her Kai Ni on December 26th. Last year I crafted Taihou on December 24th. I want Aoba Kai Ni on December 22nd.
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>>16296342
I thought she solo'd most of the Abyss fleet.
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>>16296361
That's not her damage sprite.
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>>16296358
Maybe, do you have severe depression too?
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>>16296371
Not that severe.
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>>16296359
The day is more than halfway over in japan. Enjoy your disappointment.
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>>16296217
>Every time the devs buff armour the reaction is "wow it's fucking nothing"

It doesn't help that whenever they do buff it it's only by like 1 or 2, a +10 armor buff to someone would be nice but something like that +1 armor Zara got just feels like an insult.
Only thing worse are the max luck buffs.
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How long would you make her hold it in?
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>piss fetish kids on the loose
fuck off
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>>16296371
Yes
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>>16296406
old leaky ship
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>>16296338
>Wew
2 would only be 4 less than we got this year if we don't get another K2 before the end of the year.
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>>16296422
I mean, I don't find it impossible that Tanaka would only release 2 next year, but that would look bad on his part.

Not that he doesn't already look bad. I doubt he cares either.
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At least Ise and Hyuuga haven't been corrupted by new Shibafu
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>>16296428
He's too busy counting his money to care.
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Raised up 5 more Maruyus.

Should I spend them on Yahagi, Prinz Eugen or Fufu, ya scared?

Yahagi got the first luck set because she has a high maximum luck, I didn't have Eugen at the time, Carriers don't benefit from night attack and Battleships don't use torps.

Prinz dropped from the last event, and supposedly she's a good candidate with already high luck.

Tenryuu... just because she's close to lv99, she got me into the game and she can't use seaplanes so putting a torp in her 3rd slot is my usual setup for her.
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>>16296442
Have you seen the arcade logo?
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>>16296450
Eugen is the obvious choice for being the most useful in final event map fleets. Otherwise stick with Yahagi. I'd say it doesn't matter between her and Tenryuu but you've already started on her.
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>>16296450
Eugen.
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>>16296450
Of the 3 ships you listed, only Prinz Eugen is worth luck modding. The other two are absolute trash.

And if a high luck cap justifies prioritising luck modding a lot more people would be maxing Maruyu's luck.
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>>16296450
Arare
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>>16296450
>Battleships don't use torps.
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>>16296450
Why do people keep asking these questions? You are a massive faggot having people decide for you on who to luck mod, especially if you want to feed your favorites.
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>>16296450
Do it for the love.
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>>16296450
Yahagi, if you believe they'll pull something similar to E4 nuking with the eventual Ten-Gou event. Prinz if not, since she's generally more useful and combined fleet isn't kind to CLs.
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>>16296466
This.
Arare is cute and strongest DD.
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>>16296493
Monkeys aren't cute, anon.
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>>16296450
If you're not going to get Yahagi to 50-60 luck and actually use her there was literally no reason to use the first set on her you retard.
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Today's her birthday: say something nice about her.
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>>16296500
I used you during Spring 2015 E3
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>>16296474
Anyone wanting to luck mod their favourites would already have decided. The only reason I can think of is because they just want an excuse to shitpost about luck modding.

>>16296491
If they wanted to pull something like that double attack would be more than enough.
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>>16296494
But the hat.
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>>16296393
I bet you also complain about threads talking about 2hus pissing themselves, faglord.
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>>16296462
>>16296463
>>16296464
>>16296466

Thanks.

>>16296473

Used up my blueprints on the tone and shoukaku class.

>>16296474

Then I'd do what >>16296479 says. But even I know that the expedition queen is best outside of battle and that's why she hasn't gotten the ring yet either.

>>16296491

Considering it. Even got a spare Yahagi from LSC that I'm training up to be in the escort fleet if need be.

>>16296497

She got used in the last events as part of the escort fleet light cruiser requirement. Not sure how much it helped.
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>>16296511
She looks better without it. Just like how Ooshio looks better without hers.
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>>16296515
>expedition queen
That's Abubear.
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>>16296515
>expedition queen
That's Kinu followed by Abucute and every daihatsu-able DD.
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>>16296515
>expedition queen
That's Kinu.
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>>16296519
Ooshio looks bland as fuck without the hat.
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>>16296529
But cuter.
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>>16296527
How can she even compete?
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>>16296515
>that's why she hasn't gotten the ring
I thought we could be friends. You are dead to me now. Enjoy your soulless gameplay.
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>>16296519
She was boring with hat and without hat she managed to become even more boring.
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>>16296542
Midget sub.
>retards thought they'd replace Abucute with Kinu
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>>16296548

Saving it for Enterprise. She was my favorite long before this game.
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Asashios are all cute
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>>16296561
>not buying multiple rings
If you're going to statfag then at least do it right.
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>>16296562
I wanna smoke DMT with weed-chan.
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>>16296564
>used Maruyus on Yahagi and wants to use them on Tenryuu
>statfag

Are you retarded?
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Where the fuck is the CA K2? What's stopping them from giving generic second remodels to fodder destroyers every month?
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>>16296552
Just end me now.
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>>16296581
It would cheapen the "prestige" of Kai 2 if they just handed them out generic remodels just like that. Even when they were handing out a lot per year they were still very good improvements.
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>>16296549
Arare is even more boring than Ooshio with or without hat.
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>>16296596
And? Doesn't make Ooshio any better.
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>>16296552
ITT: we apologize to Abukuma for thinking that another CL could equip midget subs.
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>>16296588
>prestige
Didn't they say that all ships would get kai ni.
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>>16296581
It pisses me the fuck off because I know and they know the artist is available but they waste their time on seasonals. It can even be Ushio/Z1 tier remodels but just make more.
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>>16296605
Back when the volume of the 4koma came out where Tanaka said that, Kai 2s were coming out more often so plans could have changed since then.
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>>16296601
I find Ooshio to be better without the hat and I believe Arare will too, that's all.
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>>16296602
>thinking
*believing
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>>16296588
>Hatsuharu
>Fubuki
>Murakumo
>Mutsukis before they could use daihatsus
>Ushio who keeps being outclassed by fucking trophy DD Kais
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>>16296618
Also Z1 and Z3, and Bismarck's Kai 2 before Drei is pretty fucking terrible too.
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>>16296630
Is Tanaka an otaku?
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>>16296637
WWII otaku, yes.
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>>16296637
He's at least a military otaku considering he got a boner from looking at DDH Kaga being commissioned.
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>>16296588
You can't give away gimmicks to everyone because amount of gimmicks is limited and then gimmicks won't be gimmicks anymore. You can't make everyone very good because then no one will be good. Mutsuki-class and the like either will get generic second remodels or won't get anything at all, I hope for the former.
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>>16296644
What would happen if he visited Newport News?
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>>16296630
Who is he with?
>>
where is Aoba Kai Ni???
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>>16296656
Shibafu and Yoshinori.
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>>16296657
Together with Samidare Kai Ni.
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>>16296602
Never. I will never apologize.
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>>16296630
>holding a cup with 2 hands
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>>16296648
Tbh I'd rather everyone be equally good i.e. no one be good.
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>>16296656
Me.
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>>16296661
Is Yoshinori the one with glasses?
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>>16296672
Yes.
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>>16296663
(´・ω・`)
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>>16296630
He used to be thinner, what happened?
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>>16296663
So who is getting the CA kai ni if not Aoba?
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>>16296682
Zara/
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>>16296682
Nobody, you got tricked. No Kai Nis in 2017 except Sara.
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>>16296681
Getting older. No exercise. Maybe he is eating too much takeout from KFC.
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>>16296681
He is fed by all of the players' sorrow whenever these fail an event or sink a girl accidentally.
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>>16296687
That would truly be idlecolle.
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/田中謙介進水式勃起記念

How strong is your Tanaka meme game?
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>>16296682
Pola.
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>>16296697
I don't understand.
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>>16296697
Brutal.
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>>16296705
And nothing of value was lost.
>>
Does anyone have a link to a video interview of Tanaka? I wonder what does his voice sound like.
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>>16296711
Japanese
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>>16296697
Kek, here is that boner from DDH Kaga.
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>>16296711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbzxObzXnmA
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>>16296719
Reminder they love her the most.
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>>16296719
Why is she always depicted sitting down
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>>16296731
Did he just imply his favorite ship since he was a kid is Akizuki at https://youtu.be/zbzxObzXnmA?t=2m50s ?
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>>16296719
>why am I cosplaying
>this wig is itchy
>these clothes barely fit
>my feet hurt
>I wish I was at home doing something else
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>>16296725
holy shit
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>>16296738
No, he's saying she's been his favorite since he was a kid.
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Black panties.
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>>16296719
Ugly
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>>16296765
I don't see any panties.
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>>16296719
>>16296739
Boy confirmed
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>>16296765
Seems more maroon to me
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>>16295972
None of the outfits will fit her.
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>>16296500
You and your sisters are cutest
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>>16295828
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>>16296765
Why only Suzuya?
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>>16296817
There's most likely going to be 1 or 2 other new sprites that they wont tease as usual.
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>>16296848
When will they tease Aoba Kai 2
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>>16296810
Kasumin is just so rapeable.
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>>16296850
They didn't even hype her up, so definitely not today
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>>16296862
im still got hope
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>>16296858
You can't just rape tsunderes
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>>16296866
Why not?
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>>16296637
I remember he use to make this one flash game that is ship related years ago when flash was still relevant
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>>16296928
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>>16295536
Holy shit, I never thought that she's painted in titan colors. Good catch.
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>>16296493
Shes shit, shit!
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>>16296381
On the other hand, 1 or 2 points of firepower on the other hand is warmly welcomed.
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>>16296141
Don't give me that shit when BBVs are actually good and Shinden is carrier plane in this game.
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メンテナンス状況:予定より少し早く【18:45】に完了見込みです。
「艦これ」稼働全サーバ群は、メンテナンス&アップデート作業を実施中です。現在作業は後半シークエンスに入っています。この後大きな問題が発生しなければ、予定より少し早く【18:45】に完了できる見込みです。
Update pushed back by 45 min.
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>>16297092
>changed out Suzuya breast
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>>16297055
It almost looks like Shigure is going to snap Yuudachi's neck
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>>16297084
Fuck me, I got the wrong initial time. It's 15 min early, not 45 mim late.
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>>16297084
>Pushed back

It was meant to end at 1900 JST. This is an early finish less any problems. Learn to read.
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>>16297114
>>16297113
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>>16297116
It wasn't there when I started typing that. Typing on mobile takes a while too. Doesn't matter, we all know now.
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>>16297084
Was this the first time their updates finished early? Or there are few times that I forgot?
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>>16297129
Quite a few times, actually.
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02▼「朝雲」に【Xmas】mode期間限定実装
駆逐艦「朝雲」にXmas季節限定艦娘グラフィックが実装されます。
世話焼きな朝潮型駆逐艦、寒い季節もどうぞよろしくお願い致します!
#艦これ
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03▼「山雲」に【Xmas】mode期間限定実装
駆逐艦「山雲」にXmas季節限定艦娘グラフィックが実装されます。
Xmasシーズン限定トナカイ角も装備した朝潮型駆逐艦、提督の皆さん、引き続きどうぞよろしくお願い致します!
#艦これ
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04▼艦娘【Xmasボイス】の期間限定追加実装
Xmas限定の艦娘「Xmasボイス」、以下の艦娘の新規追加実装を行います。
戦艦「大和」、航空母艦「鳳翔」、重巡「最上」「三隈」「Pola」、駆逐艦「暁」「響」「雷」「電」。鎮守府カウンタバーもXmasメニューが充実です!
#艦これ
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05▼【鎮守府カウンタバー】Xmas季節限定mode突入
何気に魂を込める家具「鎮守府カウンタバー」が、いよいよ【Xmas】季節限定modeに突入します! ※「鎮守府カウンタバー」に並ぶ飲み物や料理の内容は、時刻及び秘書艦(第一艦隊旗艦)の嗜好に応じて変化します。
#艦これ
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06▼【新料理家具】の実装と家具屋さんお品書き更新
Xmasシーズンにぴったりの新規含むXmas料理家具が投入されます。
・ローストビーフディナー new!
・ライスコロッケディナー new! (※任務で獲得)
・七面鳥のディナー
※特注家具職人は任務でも入手可能です!
#艦これ
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07▼【新任務】を季節限定実装
下記二種【新任務】が冬季限定実装されます。
●冬季特別任務:精鋭「駆逐隊」、出撃!
●冬季特別任務:水上機母艦、抜錨せよ!
※特注家具職人や新料理家具、そして「補強増設」も入手可能です!
※任務受諾にはトリガーとなる条件達成が必要です。
#艦これ
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08▼【機銃】系装備の機能拡張
各種「機銃」系装備の機能が拡張され、通常装備スロットの他に【補強増設】スロットへの「機銃」系装備が増設可能となります。艦隊の対空力強化などにお役立てください!
#艦これ
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>AA guns now allowed in expansion slot
Excuse me?
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09▼【増設バルジ】系装備の機能拡張
各種「増設バルジ」系装備の機能が拡張され、通常装備スロットの他に【補強増設】スロットへの「増設バルジ」系装備が増設可能となります。様々な装備戦略の幅が広がります。 ※「補強増設」は、新任務でも入手可能です。
#艦これ
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10▼【改修工廠(明石の工廠)】新改修メニュー追加実装 1/2
改修工廠(明石の工廠)において改修可能メニューが拡張されます。
それぞれある艦娘がサポートすることで
「増設バルジ(大型艦)」
の強化改修が可能になります。
※さらに上位装備への更新も可能になります。
#艦これ
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>>16297175
>>16297181
Enko Enko Enko Enko
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>>16297175
>>16297181
ENKOU
N
K
O
U
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>>16297175
She looks more like a college student in her 20s now.
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>bulges in hole punch slot

p2w bullshit
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11▼【改修工廠(明石の工廠)】新改修メニュー追加実装 2/2
新装備「艦本新設計 増設バルジ(大型艦)」が実装されます。
さらに、改修工廠(明石の工廠)改修において、ある艦娘がサポートすることで同装備の強化改修も可能になります。
#艦これ
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>>16297175
My god, I want to lick her thighs so bad.
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>>16297189
Am I imagining or is her head tiny?
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>>16297189
I like it !!
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Bulge and HA machine gun in expansion slot ??? P2W atlast
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12▼海域BGMの季節限定配置と【鎮守府ジュークボックス】の更新
鎮守府海域の各作戦海域BGMが、Xmasシーズンの季節限定配置となります。
「鎮守府ジュークボックス」も更新され、
「粉雪の降る夜」 ※Xmas2016
のリクエスト及び母港BGM設定が可能です。
#艦これ
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>>16297203
What is Maya best loadout now?
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>>16297184
>bulges now upgradable
Wat
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13▼改修工廠(明石の工廠)【UI】及び表示の一部更新
・改修実施前に同改修消費可能装備数の表示を追加
・「編成」等の母港第二階層から「画面左下部のクレーン」をクリックすることで「改修工廠(明石の工廠)」への直接遷移が可能に
・「Xmas」mode「球磨」の表示一部更新
#艦これ
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>>16297199
>purple
Slut
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>>16297092
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>>16297206
One million Bofors.
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>>16297203
Yup, it's finally started. Next will be engines and then eventually it will become a purchasable fifth equipment slot that you can put anything in. I'm so excited (not).
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14▼Merry Xmas!「プレゼント箱」をお贈りします。
Xmas期間限定(12/25 24:00まで)で、ログイン時に「プレゼント箱」を提督方全員にお贈りします。提督の皆さん、Merry Xmas!
#艦これ
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>>16297214
Fubuki will get two because of her special status.
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>>16297176

Finally those boy bulge got some use.
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>>16297194
>>16297203
Isn't more shit eligible for the Akashi hole a good thing?
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>>16297228
wat ? damecon/damegod, morale food what else ?
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Are servers up?
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>>16297231
I literally quoted it.
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>>16297230
Poses showing the back are so bad.
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15▼「瑞穂」に【Xmas】差分mode期間限定実装
水上機母艦「瑞穂」に季節限定艦娘差分グラフィックが実装されます。
【Xmas】衣装をまとった日本生まれ&日本育ちの水上機母艦娘。海外生まれの水上機母艦共々、Xmasシーズンもどうぞよろしくお願い致します!
#艦これ
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>>16297235
Hitokappu is working
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>>16297194
>>16297203
>easymodofags
Loving every laugh
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16▼「熊野」に【Xmas】mode期間限定実装
重巡洋艦/航空巡洋艦「熊野」にもXmas季節限定艦娘グラフィックが実装されます。
「鈴谷」「熊野」姉妹の【Xmas】、今冬も引き続き艦娘たちを、どうぞよろしくお願い致します!
#艦これ
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>>16297212
>>16297230
Fujikawa is goddess
I want to marry her
>>
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/KanColle/M.1482398924.A.FCB.html CGs
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>>16297243
This.
I have like 15 of them sitting in my dock unused.
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>>16297247
It looks like another lazy edit.
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>>16297250
>>16297243
i have 12 leftovers its not about easy or hard modo
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>>16297249
Mizuhou got over her jaundice.
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>>16297243
Show me your 50 punchers or fall far behind the power of money.
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>>16297261
>he thinks his bulges will prevent Rus from taihaing his shit
>>
>all ships now get +6 yasen power if you pay up
what's next
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>>16297265
>he thinks bulges are the best thing to put and not machineguns with extra AA and firepower
>>
Stat increases from one slot are marginal.
>>
50k resources is enough.
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>>16297268
Isn't the bonus from AA guns day battle only?
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>>16297275
Stat increases from marriage also marginal.

But if you combine both bonus its pretty substantial
>>
>>
>>16297275
3 firepower, 3 torpedo and 11 AA extra per ship isn't marginal when combined to every other bonus, it all adds up.
>>
What AA gun did you put into the slot?
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>>16297296
7.7mm
>>
I only have 10 25mm triples for upgrading the CD

JUST
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>>16297287
you're right
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>>16297210
Holy shit this is the QoL improvement I never knew I needed
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I love p2w.
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>>16297317
Fucking delicious.
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Could you use the 5inch mk.28 for artillery spotting?
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>>16297296
Pompom because I'm a pleb.
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>please help us to strengthen the anti-aircraft of the fleet!
>1941 + 75
>just now doing something about the AA situation
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It seems I practically wasted two expansions slots, oh well.

Which ships will benefit the most from the extra slot, Maya and Ducks?
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>>16297334
Ships that taiha more easily.
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>>16297334
Your waifu, your favorite ships
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>>16297341
For what purpose.
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>>16297175
>>16297181
Looks nice.
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>>16297322
Why is she making a face like that? Is her mouth full of cum?
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>>16297189
>>16297199
Kumano is the cutest.
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>>16297334
It's on a need to use basis. If I need them for one difficult map, I use them.

>>16297345
True, when fatigue grinding them at a sub node you don't want them to accidentally sink.
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>>16297355
She's pouting. It's a girly way of expressing frustration.
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>>16297341
Stats on the new bulge?
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Left or right?
They're both shit
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>>16297334
AACI ship which needs machine gun to fulfill AACI requirements
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>>16297362
Weird. Girls are weird.
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>>16297363
>new

>>16297365
Right.
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>>16297365
Bulges are harder to craft.
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>>16297323
2 5in won't result in a double attack in the day.
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>>16297365
What's the quest?
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>>16297377
The new one right at the end.
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It's of balans tovarische )))))))))))))))
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>>16297369
>>16297373
Are you blind? AA gun has a +3 stars.
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>>16297379
What is this? How can I do this?
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>>16297383
I know that, what do you have to do for the quest?
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>>16297379
Noice.
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>>16297387
PAY
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>>16297386
And? It's not even the concentrated variant. It's fucking useless.
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>>16297387
Read the thread.
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>>16297386
That shit is free to upgrade until +6
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>>16297396
>>16297398
It's far less useless than something you can craft for sure.
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>>16297401
It's more useless if you never use it because there's a lot of stronger shit.
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>>16297334
Kinu, Kasumi B, and Isuzu can use their special AACI and not interfere with normal DA set ups.
>>
Wew. I'm glad I still have a few of those Akashi hole thingys
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>>16297401
>craft
>for sure
lol
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>>16297405
And? Bulges are always useless because you can put an AA gun that actually helps instead.
>>
>>16297337
>>16297345
I mean, I already punched a few holes in destroyers and submarines, but aside from repair items they don't really benefit from anything else and can't equip shit anyway. Meanwhile, another HA gun is obviously helpful on Maya.
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>>16297379
>tfw your waifu is the first girl with five slots
What a time to be alive.
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>>16297411
>you in charge of not being a retard without reading comprehension
LOL
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>>16297412
>what are unremodeled quest ships
Not everything has to go into the Akashi hole.
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>>16297416
Maya-sama is truly the best.
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>>16297401
25mm Triple MG can be found on many ships' equipment, but bulge can only be aquired via crafting.
>>
>>16297416
>>16297423
You're waifu a shit
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>>16297420
>using unremodeled CVs
>using unremodeled BBs
Full retard.
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>>16297424
Bulges can be crafted with 300 steel and even while crafting big guns, it's no T32 radar.
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>>16297418
(You)
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>>16297434
Bulges are mutually exclusive with guns that require ammo >steel, just so you know.
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>>16297438
>still can't comprehend something so obvious
(You) are sad.
>>
Can we agree that defensive items are useless in this game and armour is practically useless?
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>>16297453
Yes.
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>>16297206
20.3 (3)
5inch Mk.28
Seaplane
Air Radar
+ Bofors

Maybe?
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>>16297453
>defensive items are useless
Yes.
>armour is practically useless
No.
>>
Would giving a bulge to every ship help reduce Re-Elite torpedo ass raping on 5-5 every month?
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>>16297453
>armour is practically useless
Why do brain dead people exist?
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>>16297453
>Can we agree that defensive items are useless in this game and armour is practically useless?

yes they are useless.
HA machine gun only useful for Maya and Satsuki.
No one use buldge except for 5-1 quest or sometimes 5-3.

thats why they make both of them equippable in expansion slot.
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>>16297469
Yes. How much is the question.
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>>16297442
There's T32 radar crafting that can result in those bulges and radars are more important.
>>
Help me /jp/, I need a quick way to make 十万円.
>>
待って、田中、改二は何処??????????????
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>>16297478
Suck cocks.
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>>16297478
sell yourself.
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>>16297460
+1 AA pasta gun is better than 5inch. +10 concentrated is better than Bofors IIRC.
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>>16297480
予定なし。
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>>16297447
What? That said bulges, while useless, are at least top of the line for their type which could prove useful if bulges should become useful some time in the future, while the +3 25mm triple is doomed to be forever useless even when upgraded to max, because there are numerous stronger variants that you can easily get?

Just because you can't craft +3 AA guns doesn't mean it's more useful.
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>>16297499
not him but i have 5 large bulges, so i pick the aa gun
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>>16297491
Not really, no.
>>
Just pick the one with higher scrap value.
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>>16297499
The strongest AA gun that's up for upgrades at Akashi's is the one the triple converts into and I doubt you have enough improved AA guns to serve a combined fleet.
>>
With those bulges on the fifth slot, will those pesky So-class subs still fuck me over?
>>
Oh man, I love this update. I can't wait for another version of Wo Kai in the future!
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>>16297509
Of course they will.
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>>16297509
Can you still roll a one on a die with 5 sixes?
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>>16297499
>could prove useful if bulges should become useful some time in the future
Well, you can upgrade the large ones apparently.
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>>16297518
Does the die have a one on it?
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>>16297523
That's the implication.
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>>16297203
It's not really any more p2w than rings giving more hp, evasion, accuracy, etc. And I bet they're gonna give us some repeatable quests for Akashi slots like they did with green barrels.
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>>16297531
And it will require bulges and AA guns.
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>>16297359
Why is this prostitute so low res?
Is it because I didnt pay her neough.
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>>16297501
You have zero AA guns that are conc or better? Because these shits can't match up to the conc variant even when max.

>>16297508
The conc doesn't even consume itself in upgrading. I have those and Bofors and those pom-pom guns. I don't need another AA gun which is weaker than them.
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>>16297531
a monthly or quarterly seems nice
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>>16297535
To keep storage costs down and performance up.
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>>16297261
Unless I missed some from quests, the most you can have is 16 if you started before Summer '15.
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>>16297536
You don't get it at all, a +3 triple already outdoes bofors for damage.
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>>16297531
>I bet they're gonna give us some repeatable quests for Akashi slots
Probably a quarterly.

I hope they'll increase their number in event rewards too.
>>
Is it worth punching a duck for the extra AA?
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>>16297542
They are 500 yen a pop, hence the power of money.
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>>16297472
>and Satsuki
What?
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>>16297545
>damage is a more important stat than AA for AA guns
Wat
>>
>>16297535
shut the FUCK up, pal
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>>16297552
Give Satsuki the Maya AA gun and she'll do AACI
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> everyone is talking about punching their girls
What the hell men, stop all this bullying at once,
>>
>>16297554
Haven't you read the update notes? The punch holes now can equip AA guns which means DDs get "free" +3 firepower and +3 torpedo from a +9 AA gun.
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>>16297562
Very big deal for a day battle.
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>>16297547
What did ducks ever do wrong to you? Don't touch them you animal.
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>>16297545
As does a +3 25mmCD, which is actually useful compared to that garbage.
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>>16297559
Her AACI is shit, though.
>>
>>16297175
>>16297181
I want my own, personal Suzuya to marry and start family with
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>>16297562
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>
>>16297555
i'm not your pal, ntsc-u
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OH SHIT! Could it be that they fixed repair times? Just yesterday I could finish repairs 3 minutes early by changing screens but it doesn't work now. Have to wait all this time! What a nightmare!
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>>16297569
And costs 9 screws, which are actually useful compared to the bulge garbage.
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>>16297578
fix ur system clock aka stop using macos
>>
Generally speaking, is semi-leveling your ship as expedition flagship a bad idea?
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This update sucks.
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>>16297589
No. I get most of my DDs or CLs to kai, or near kai levels through expeditions before sending them out to sortie. Kind of a rite of passage.
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>>16297583
Which is still garbage since you want to use Maya guns. Considering everyone have at least 3 of them, there is no reason to even keep an upgraded normal 25mm.
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>>16297588
Oh, right. I just now changed it to "set automatically". So that's why that repair cheating time kept increasing.
And I have no idea what macros are you talking about.
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>>16297597
Three of them won't equip one full fleet, let alone two fleets.
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I am opening a brothel. How much would you pay for her?
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>>16297598
when did I ever mention macros? are you retarded?
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>>16297602
Fuck off.
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>>16297599
>yfw luck modded Maya is the new meta
>>
So the real winners are the RTA guys who will put bulges/aa guns on the sturdier ships while keeping reapermegami on the suckier ones. We now get stronger Maya/ducks as a bonus though.

Did anything else change with this update?
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>>16297609
And then they give us an event full of subs including new sub bosses.
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>>16297616
Better UI
>>
>kc3 just closed my game in the middle of a sortie and shills the """""latest and greatest update!!!""""""""""""" now our program isn't complete dogshit and partially functions almost as good as eo!!!! waow!!!!!!! rerry???? iesu!!!
what a fucking stupid program and a fucking stupid developer
>>
>>16297576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ0emX5RgZQ
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>>16297634
>being this buttmad about a patch
>>
>>16297634
You're stupider for using it.
>>
>>16297602
700 yen
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>>16297640
i'm not a nipper but isn't it funny how america is the shit country now 70 years later?
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>>16297595
Maybe next time.
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>>16297660
The fall of rome, pal
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>>16297634
I use the KC3 and it didn't close my game, just notified me about update. You're retarded I suppose?
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>>16297599
Holy shit, this new use is too OP.
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>>16297634
I'm glad I only ever use KC3 to grab API links.
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>>16297663
>no AA or bulge in extra slot
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>>16297673
You're a special kind of retard. Kill yourself
>>16297643
Perhaps. It used to be good though, like ages ago. I think the development went to shit when they took away the white colour scheme and replaced it with a low resolution picture of the yasen background
>>16297641
This seriously shouldn't happen. DragonJew added a donation button (and I can 100% assure you that he gets donations from it), and he still can't make his program work properly
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>>16297609
Is that actually kitakami or did you just rename it? It looks like makoto to me tbqh
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What is Suzuya 10desires?
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Woah, nobody told me she drops in Christmas.
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>>16297694
me x10
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>>16297696
She drops at 2-5 la.
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>>16297694
My p0n0s 01 times.
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>>16297694
You listed ass twice.
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>>16297682
When a program gets some major changes, it's common practice to reset it. By program i mean the game and not KC3, as i'm sure it gets more difficult to make even cosmetic changes to the app with Tanaka and co. adding barely tested assets/code changes and shit.
Ofcourse i could be wrong.
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>>16297682
> they took away the white colour scheme and replaced it with a low resolution picture of the yasen background
Are you perhaps an imbecile?
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Ok, so before anyone else noticed this, rockets also go in the hole.
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>>16297681
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>>16297702
How is it that EO works just fine then?
>>16297706
They did all the beta testing in the old version, but they were too retarded to remove it from the actual thing. Not that it mattered since a shit tonne of bugs were merged into the program without being resolved first anyway
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>>16297715
Did the EO get updated?
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>>16297715
White color scheme is still there is all I'm saying.
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>>16297710
What, you mean the 30-tube rocket launchers? Of course, they're AA guns too. WGs don't work.
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>EO vs botnet3kai
>nobody fucking remembers KCV already
>I'm still sitting on an older version because who cares about maphp and whatever died several last updates
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>>16297710
That's lewd
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>>16297725
Only decent KCV version now is the korean one and nobody wants to look at gook alien runes.
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>>16297719
It wasn't updated for months since they switched last year. Also you can't read the white text on a white background, baaaaka
>>16297718
no, and it works just fine
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>>16297728

>>>/e/
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>>16297728
KEK

Suzuya pleases old men for money
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>>16297728
Ugly and lazy edit.
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>>16297725
Internet Explorer is really slow for me, I dunno why. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that it is Internet Explorer? Hm.... It remains a mystery
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Would you?
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>>16297739
I can already do it for free.
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WAT HAPPEN
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>>16297747
We've been through this.
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>>16297747
Shibafu went AWOL, hacked KanColle and forcefully adds shit art into the game to displease people.
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>>16297739
Those panties don't look very lady like.
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>>16297363
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>>16297747
Menopause.
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That xmas feels
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>>16297759
literally who the hell is that
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>>16297759
Is this some injected OC?
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>>16297757
>1 more armor
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>>16297660
What are you talking about? America has remained the same.
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>>16297747

She became a fan of the teletubbies.
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Can't equip torpedo bulge on CLs, the only thing I ever wanted.
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>>16296361
Obvious example of MC armor in action.

>>16296450
>Not modding your favourite one.
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>>16297725
Don't forget logbook!
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>>16297725
Did anyone ever try KCVX?
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>>16297770
Give that hotel some more armor now.
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>>16297769
Yeah, CLs can't use them but Bep can because balanse))))))
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>>16297761
>>16297762
>he doesnt know about best parsley
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>>16297771
logbook ex and kai are still worked on, but I'm sure the majority prefer English translated versions.
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>>16297783
Of course I know about Maya.
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>>16297775
PHOENIX
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>>16297783
>best Parsley

It's her, right?
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>>16297789
Nah Urakaze is the best.
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>>16297793
This is the only right answer.
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>>16297789
She'll be the first to get official in-game H content.
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>>16297783
I can recognise "special' Nenohi as Nenohi.
This doesn't look anything like the original.
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>>16297795
Is that official art from Paseri?
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>>16297725
The only two things I miss from KCV is the detailed fleet window, if I want to share comps properly I have to use listmaker now. And the ship list, I hate this ship group system EO has instead.
But EO has a bunch of other nice things to make up for it.
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>>16297813
ざまああああwww
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>>16297813
That last panel Shimakaze looks like Hulk.
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>>16297813
>I fucking spent 10 days in that map and even switched to easy mode

How can anyone be this kuso?
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>>16297819
Still a newbie, perhaps.
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>>16297819
I couldn't get past summer E-1 because: no levels, no equips, no resources, no reading the wikis = can't sink the sub hime.
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Option to mute Aquafresh when? Her voice gives me worse cancer than that fucking poi retard.
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>>16297813
>using Shimakaze on E-4

Unless Ttk mod her luck stat; er, maybe wrong choice?
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>>16297830
>MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI
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>>16297599
With two quints and 1 5in or 90mm, Maya can reach cap damage with torp CI at night with enough upgrades. If you lack a FuMO or either HA gun you need to swap in a sext torp. If you lack both components you need two upgraded sexts.
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>>16297834
She still has the whole evasion thing going for her. Anyway, I wouldn't expect a setup that didn't clear event on easy to make sense.
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>>16297834
The original comic has nothing to do with E4. http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=44569651
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>>16297813
my friend started about 3 week
still got his Sara in kuso mode
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>>16297843
So some retarded wikiafag or whatever edited it for his kusoness? That's even worse.
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>>16297729
Just wait for everything in the gook fork to be softcoded and all will be fine.
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>>16297848
I thought he was making an example of people who failed in that fashion, but yeah, it's still a shitty edit.
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>You're crying from all the fun we had? Oh, how embarrassing

First time I feel like I wanna punch her, seriously.
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>>16296515
>But even I know that the expedition queen is best outside of battle
She nailed 3 final kills so far out of 8. Or 4, I don't remember 2015 at all. Do not underestimate her strength. Tenryuu is strong.
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>>16297813
Should've asked for my help :^)
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>>16297867
She isn't strong you autistic pleb, just because she can finish something off with a torp cut-in doesn't make her strong. And your editing skills fucking suck.
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>zuikaku teaser image earlier
>no xmas sprite
Why is this allowed?
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next week we got update?
or have to wait until next year ?
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>>16297875
Calendar or promo picture.
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>>16297875
>Why is this allowed?
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Fucking 1-3 every time, why is this even allowed, how is this called a game, I swear, if I ever get banned in this game, it will be for refreshing 1-3 and I won't even care anymore at that point.
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>>16297757
So how do you get this?
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>>16297867
>hatsuharuautist
Into the trash your opinion goes.

Just because you can make her do shit like this doesn't mean she's actually strong.
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I hate this time of the month
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>>16297898
>double shitgure
>akatsuki
Found your problems
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>>16297783
dat forehead
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>>16297875
Tanaka being a faggot, nothing new.
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>>16297875
They probably keep their sprite for next year. Just like autumn Gumos. Tanaka unironically believes his shitty game will last another 4 years and stretches everything. This is also the reason why we get much less Kai 2 remodels.
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Also what is >New Plan Expansion Bulge (Large)
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>>16297898
>DDs
>not Bongos+2cv
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>>16297908
>Tanaka unironically believes his shitty game will last another 4 years
And for all you know he might very well be right.
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>>16297830
Who?
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>>16297931
Pic looks like Bm7, anon. And anyway, there's literally no reason to use that instead of the CVL setup.
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Fuck please just let me craft some 21's so I can upgrade jesus
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>>16297934
Aquafresh-haired AV.
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>>16297944
Dude, you get 21's like from everywhere.
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>>16297944
How do you upgrade Jesus?
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>>16297830
Would you say she is worse than Iowa?
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>>16297956
Yes, even though both are pretty damn bad.
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>>16297947
I thought it was Colgate?
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>>16297972
It's a temporary crossover.
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>>16297609
That's not Kitakami
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How are your AA gun upgrades doing TTK?
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>>16297175
>>16297181
Her boobs really are getting bigger with every update.
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>>16297987
It's great.
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>>16297987
She is growing up.
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>>16297249
>404 page not found
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>>16297981
but why
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>>16297175
Fuck, time to browse Suzuya doujins
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This update just reaffirmed that Suzuya and Kumano are the better Mogamis.
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Is AATCI Maya the new meme setup? She can also be anti-installation and an even stronger pure AA ship or secondary day cutin
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>>16298031
>comparing Konishi and Shibafu

Dude. That's, eh, no contest. At all, you know.
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>>16298045
Mizuho is such a cutie. I want more Mizuho pornography.
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>>16298045
>>16296472
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>>16298031
True, but only because I just don't care about Mogami. Kumarinko can stay, but only if she keeps her clothes on.
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>>16297603
I sure am. Read macos like macros.
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>>16298058
>but only if she keeps her clothes on

Huh?
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>>16298066
DRR... DRR... DRR...
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>>16298074
>Hide post
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>>16298074
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>16298074
That's a long barrel.
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>>16298069
>yellow striped pantsu
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>>16297322
Is Fujikawa losing it? What's with all the edits lately? Is she ill?
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>>16298110
just like that kuma k2 faggot
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>>16297845
That's nothing, you can clear 6-5 in 3 weeks.
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>>16298110
Are Aobafags the new Samidarefags?
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>>16298165
Unironically yes
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>>16298165
No.
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Suzuya is pure.
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>>16298194
Pure

ly for ejaculating bareback inside.
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>>16298194
That's right, she doesn't have an ounce of non-slut in her!
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>>16298165
If you actually ever looked at dev twitter replies it's filled with people asking for any ship without Kai Ni to get one.
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>>16298194
She isn't pure.
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>>16297894
Haven't checked, probably by upgrading the large bulge.
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>>16298165
I'm both Samidarefag and Aobafag. Delusion is my body, hope is my blood, etc.
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>>16298202
Does this look like a slut to you
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Suzuya is only a slut for the TTK she loves
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>>16298206
Then answer my question - what are Suzuya's ten desires?
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>>16298206
Yes. Yes she does.
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>>16298207
More like the one with the biggest wallet
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>>16298207
It's actually impossible for her to love more than one admiral. Just like everyone else.
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>>16298224
>nips cosplaying gaijins
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>>16298210
>To love TTK
>To hold TTK
>To serve TTK
>To cook for TTK
>To bathe TTK
>To be with TTK
>To sortie for TTK
>To marry TTK
>To fuck TTK
>To bear TTK's children
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>>16298234
Those are wife material desires.
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>>16298234
How can anyone not call Suzuya a good girl after this?
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American and British cruisers/destroyers when?

Which ships would be good candidates?
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>>16298251
DD-450 O'Bannon, with sprites by Shibafu.
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>>16298251
Glowworm, and she'll look like Alice Cartwheel.
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>>16298251
Fletcher or Gearing for US. They made tons of them.
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>>16298251

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Juneau_(CL-52) (Because USS Sand Diego would break the game)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Helena_(CL-50)
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>>16298251
What ever for? Japs had more than enough of that.
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>>16298281
But I want more cute foreign ships.
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>>16298234
Different TTK every time.
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>>16298293
Would Suzuya get knocked up by one TTK and then tell another TTK that it's theirs?
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>>16298293
Fanfiction doesn't count.
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>>16298194
I love you suzuya
>>
Is there a way for me to remove the wikia telling me to disable ad block without disabling ad block?
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>>16298222
>>16298293
>>16298295
Suzuya isn't even my wifu, but I hope your wifus get only NTR/scat/inflation/vore/furry doujins of them.
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>>16298311
Asanagi is doing one of mine very soon. ;_;
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>>16298251
Burger cruisers will be shit because they had no torpedoes.
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>>16298322
It's okay, getting Asanagi's attention is an honor no matter what gets made of her.
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>>16298323
They can work as cheap BB in combined fleet.
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>>16298335
Oh, and it's femdom I'm pretty sure.
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>>16298234
That can be arranged.
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>>16298322
I want to lick a sweaty Kashima.
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>>16298311
>wifu
What's that?
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>>16298340
But Kashima is a good girl.
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>>16298366
Yes, i made a mistake in "waifu" two time, are you happy now?
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>>16298340
For a handful of pages before it reverts to the usual stuff.
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>>16298366
He meant a waifu with wi-fi access point capabilities.
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>>16297773
Damn, she has -5 evasion from all this stuff. Hope that upgraded bulge would have more armor and less evasion penalty.
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>>16298375
>two time
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>>16298270
I hate this muh game breaker argument. Yamato was the strongest ship and she doesn't break shit. Iowa is a fast hotel and doesn't break shit either. There are firepower caps, evasion caps, luck caps, AA is very random even with 3 Bofors on each ship, bosses have so much firepower that armor might as well be useless, big plane slots barely survive Tsu and Wo kai. The only thing not controlled by RNG are fighters.
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>>16298389
Unless it has some additional damage mitigation properties, it'll still be shit and a turbine will be superior.
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>>16298251

There are a fuckton of brit Light cruisers and destroyer designs to choose from but the problem is that they didn't get to have any glamorous carreer because they were spent escorting convoys and killing german subs.

Only 3 forces in the war had some kind of glorious action so I guess brit ships will be taken from those, Warspite being the first as the flagship of the Mediterranean fleet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Fleet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_H

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_K
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>"medium" breasts
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>>16298389
I have a boner.
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>>16298396
Turbines in the reinforcement slot fucking when?
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>>16298413
When they can make slow ships fast.
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>>16298396
>turbine will be superior.
>>
how do people manage to clear events only a few weeks after starting? I had 2 months to prepare for iowa event and I feel like I barely made it even on all easy.
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>>16298426
Reading the wiki and not gimping yourself by refusing to use good ships because of their artist.
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>>16298421
It can be. But only if allowed into the additional slot and given the ability to make a slow ship fast. I don't think it can happen soon, I doubt it'll even happen at all.
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>>16298426

It's just the amount of time they put into the game + doing the correct decisions when preparing.
>>
>>16298251
Can we just get Washington so Kirishima gets bullied?
>>
http://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/11880
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>>16298251
USS Laffey
Atlanta or Cleveland class.
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>>16298440
Which Laffey?
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>>16298444
All of them.
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>>16298444
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Laffey_(DD-724)
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>>16298461
But then who's gonna bully Hiei?
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>>16298436
Cringy, narcissistic "humour" run through an ESL filter.
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Wikia in a nutshell
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>>16298481
Also this thread in a nutshell. The wikiatards are shilling their shitty allied ships in this thread right this moment.
>>
How would you feel about Soviet ships drawn by Yadokari?
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>>16298512
Whatever.
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>>16298525
>>16298453
No, fuck off with 3D pigs.
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>>16298512
Which soviet ships, Tovarisch?
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>>16298512
Bep is okay I guess.
>>
>>16298512
I would love a Red October girl voiced by Sean Connery.
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>>16298512
Uh, who would want a loli BB.
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>>16298426
You would have better luck if you started before a different event
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So this is the true power of Satsuki...
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>>16298560
>minus 1x DC

Almost.
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>>16298467
Huh? Did a DD bully Hiei?
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>>16298544
Nobody would want soviet BBs anyway, the only remotely decent thing never made it past being 20% done and got scrapped for metal to make tanks and other useful stuff. It would have been interesting, having pugliese bulkheads and some other curious stuff, though bound to be plagued by problems caused by being basically first soviet dreadnaught-era BB.

And the DDs had godawful torpedoes and no significant AA, making them useless for this game, even if the guns weren't bad.
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>>16298575
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Laffey_(DD-459)
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>>16298453
Better looking than the cosplayer above, but still not that great. That is why 3D is inferior to 2D.
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>>16298579
Damn, did not know about that. Though I doubt any Benson class will make it in, that is a pretty neat story none the less.
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>>16297588
>>16298064
What the fuck are macos
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>Bep can have 85 armor now
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>>16298613
I remember a pic about equipping 3 bulges on bep, what could the 4th even represent?
>>
Apparently chinks believe that using a CLT on 4-5 is an acceptable tactic.
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You have to re-equip the equipment in the p2w slot after modernizing.
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>>16298622
Why not? I always use CLT+2CAV+BB+2CV until last kill, it never fails.
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>>16298640
He was also using it for last kill.
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>>16298512
Yadokari is okay in my book. I want Sumipe to voice a Soviet kanmusu.

>>16298536
Pic related would be interesting I guess, at least for a commie ship.
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i love kaga posting
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>>16298670
Can Yadokari draw anything but lolis though?
>>
>>16298512
Fuck no, his latest abominations should die in fire.
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>>16298721
W-What?
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>>16298726
It's hard to point out, but it looks rather bad. Like, the details are nice but the quality is somewhat insufficient.
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>>16298734
>>>/c/
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>>16298631
Nice bugs Tanaka.
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>>16298670
>2 rounds per minute
>-5 accuracy
I know it was drunk Russians who made it, but I did expect more even from them.
Also their AA guns seem worse and than the Japanese.
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>sortie to 1-3
>hit boss
>music comes on

what the fuck am i listening to?
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>>16297747
K2 never, please.

Please.
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>>16298775
Please don't post this garbage here.
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>>16298781
Fine.
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>>16298755
>>16298670

I don't know what the russians were thinking with their guns in WWII. Their destroyers were overgunned and their heavy cruisers undergunned. Besides the only redeeming grace to those 180mm is the range, and we all know it's more trouble that it's worth in kancolle.
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>>16298775
Please post more of this garbage here in the future.
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>>16298707
Quick search yields just these, which aren't full-loli:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2081824
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1566953
I think he once drew a guy, but he looked like a middle schooler.
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>Ah geez, nothing but idiots around...
>Argh, no one but idiots! Action is all there is! Let's do it!

You know, if she's sortieing with the likes of, say, Musashi, Yamato, Maya, Kiso, Kaga, Zuikaku, Yuudachi etc., then saying something like that, won't she get pounded HARD? Curious.
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>>16298775
>prenode
What? This was the only funny thing in the picture.
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>>16298775
So, is this new forced meme?
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>>16298801
No.
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Since when is Russia an interesting place?
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>>16298801
It's night battle so she's not that fucked,
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>>16298792
Don't post that shitty image here again.
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>>16298613
>>
SATSUCUTE + Mutsukis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1u7oCJ8dK4

This was actually pretty well done for being a fan animation.
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>>16298816
Satsuki a shit, worst Mutsuki.
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>>16298807
Oh, it is interesting, trust me.
>>>/wsg/1402087
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>>16298801
I'm pretty sure her comrades know her well enough to not be offended.
>>
Since when is x an interesting place?
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>>16298819
All this is interesting only if you don't live there.
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>>16298762
Please respond

is 1-3 boss node playing funny music for anyone else?
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>>16298801
They know she can be a little bitch at times so they ignore her mood swings.
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>>16298807
There must be a reason, because russophile like Sumipe exist.
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>>16298830
>All this is interesting only if you don't live there.
This is applicable to pretty much any place on this shitty planet.
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>>16298801
>Shitmato
>not a little useless bitch
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>>16298837
So she's eternally on PMS?
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>>16298844
Except this place?
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>>16298816
Nice
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>>16298819
That just seems what niggers do. Not interesting at all.
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>>16298849
Yes, and sadly as the TTK you have to deal with the brunt of it the most.
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>>16298816
10/05/1943
Which ship's construction was finished on that day?
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>>16298867
Chuckled.
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>>16298867
>>16298800
wikia tier garbage.
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>>16298861
>>>/c/
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>>16298867
The guy who tipped off the USN about Japan being about to attack Pearl Harbor was removed and never reinstated even after he was proven right.

I think this is a strong sign of it being an inside job.
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>>16298893
No one cares about your tinfoil conspiracy theories.
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>>16298893
It wasn't.
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>>16298902
>>16298904
Why hello there USN.
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>>16298930
Why hello there shitposter.
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>>16298893
Fuck off.
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>add buffs
>we're going to be forced to make use of them due to the enemy fleet growing even stronger
>remove buffs
>the enemy fleet's growing even stronger and you still nerf us
>do nothing
>this game hasn't changed at all since the start, it's starting to get boring

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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>>16298945
the enemy fleet's growing ever* stronger and you still nerf us
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>>16298945
He can keep giving out more seasonals!
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>>16298945
is there anything in the game's history that got nerfed though?
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>>16298965
CLTs getting an increase in resource consumption, for all that did.
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>>16298965
Some ships got higher consumption.
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>>16298965
LBAS
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>>16298893
>>>/pol/
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>>16298816
I like it.
Talking about the song, not the animation.
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>>16298965
No. Only affected by Ushio Kai 2 Phenomenon, a.k.a. power creep.
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>>16298792
The demand part bothers me more than it should, wikia and some of this thread are forgetting who the game is centered around.
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>>16298816
That was decent, think she's pretty underrated. Like how she calls you kawaii.
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>>16298965
Introduction of fit guns.
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Question.

1-6 node F. Air raid node.
Yasen to prevent D-rank.
Yes, or no?
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>>16297365
AA
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>>16299001
Of course not.
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>>16299001
No, why would you care about 1 D-rank?
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>>16299007
Reduced morale.
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>>16298816
Is this original or one those redraws?
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>>16299010

That's completely inconsequential. Once you get past that node you already reached the end node. Even if you get taiha next node you can still continue and finish the run without problems.

>>16299021

I think it's original.
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Finally level 99. I'll marry her on the 31st or on the 1st dess
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>>16299046
nice one bongo
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>>16299046
ok
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>>16298965
Mizuho switched to slow speed
CLT uses more ammo
Fit guns ( rip 46cm)
Technically land planes, but I'm guessing the devs decide when you can wipe the floor with them
PT Imps and So class accuracy
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>>16299031
Yeah, thought so. Losing morale to 45-47 wouldn't affect performance that much. Uh, just missfest often.

Taiha, huh?
Unless it's the Fs that is.
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>>16299046
Just give up Tanaka
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>>16299046
Fuck off.
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>>16299098
Snore.
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>>16299098
Cricket_Sound.flac
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>>16299098
Fuck off.
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>>16298816
>Satsuki vs. Lycoris
Almost had me.
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This shit is overpowered.
New Abyssals will all have post cap gimmicks.
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>>16299188
Crits will taiha her anyways. Guess is pretty good to avoid damage from scrubs and help with some mean torpedoes, specially the opening ones from some himes.
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>>16299188
Oh neat, I had forgotten I punch holed my Prinz as soon the Akashi fairies came out.
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>>16299195
Yes. Prinz was amazing vs AV Hime and CA Hime, there were numerous situations where she tanked their torps staying at shouha/chuuha depending on engagement in situations where every other CA would fall to chuuha/taiha. I really love how tanky she is and while I'm truly glad I can bolster this even further, I'm extremely worried about this p2w tendency Tanaka is setting.

I also find it... interesting how right after jets are introduced he not only makes bulges super useful, he even has the nerve to add one to Akashi. Three huge steel sink introduced almost at once.
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Fuck, I only have 3 out of the 11 hole punchers I ever got, thanks to unending taihas that caused me to use megamis. Who should I use these on, Maya and?
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>>16299211
Other AACI ships, I say.
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>>16299188

Bulges are a meme anyway, until now nobody used AA guns because no one would trade attack (a good 4 slot setup) for AA. Now we'v got an slot dedicated to that and AA guns have an incredibly good multiplier for determining amount of planes shot down in aerial phase. Given how awful latest event have been and how abyssal planes will get even worse now that we've got jets, AA guns for that slot is way better than bulges.
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>>16299211

Just wait until the next event rolls out and decide depending on your needs then.
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>>16299209
>I'm extremely worried about this p2w tendency Tanaka is setting
Yeah, I'm a bit concerned with this too. Guess it could be fine if they add some repeatable quest for expansions (maybe quarterly?) and keep adding them in events. Like they did with Fastsuck's p2w barrels.
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So the AA gun reward is just this but with +3?
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/25mm_Twin_Autocannon_Mount
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>>16299230
Is the triple one, not the twin. Still pretty weak reward IMO.
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>>16299216
I'd rather use upgraded AA guns for firepower and torpedo, the AA mechanics are too random. Bulge is very useful, 7 armor is a big boost.
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>>16299237
Thanks for clarifying, I guess I will go with the Bulge as I already have a few of those at +5 back when I got Akashi early and had nothing really to upgrade.
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>>16299230

Yeah, pretty useless when you consider you'll be farming Satsuki K2 or Maya K2 for Concentrated Deployment anyway.

>>16299246

>the AA mechanics are too random
>When armor mechanics are equally random
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>>16299255

Also, I'd rather go for a chance of shutting down the enemy carrier thanks to the BIG extra AA that gives an AA gun (lol Wo Kai taiha your full health ship with just 3 planes -3-) than having to cross my fingers with just some extra armor.
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>>16299256
>I can now use this and the Bofors on Maya and not feel bad with leaving either fairy behind
At least there is a silver lining to all this.
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>>16299256
>you'll be farming Satsuki K2 or Maya K2 for Concentrated Deployment anyway.

What for? A bit more AA?
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>>16299267

Don't forget that now you can improve concentrated deployment with Akashi too.
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>>16299273
Upgradeable Bofors and 5 inch guns fucking when.
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>>16299272

I bet you use quads instead of quints and sex too.
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>>16299256
Armor mechanics aren't nearly as random. They're well defined.
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I'm amazed that you fags didn't noticed that now Isuzu, the best CL, can have yasen double attack, OASW and AACI.
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>>16299274
Exactly what's stopping me from upgrading (CD).
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>>16299286
No one cares, her AACI is trash and Abukuma is still better.
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>>16299286
And she's shit or average at all 3
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>>16299281

There are already well defined formulas not only for your your fleet AA but also for abyssal AA (And AA guns get a BIG multiplier).

>>16299286

Yeah. She and Kinu with Akashi Hole will be the new meta or transport combined fleet maps.

Kinu = Red*2 (or 2 HA for bigger AA) + plane + CD

Isuzu = 2HA + Sonar + CD

They both cover everything.

>>16299291

Fuck off
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>>16299298
>Fuck off
You know it's the truth.
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>>16299298
You don't understand. With armor you know exact range you can roll. You can be sure to tank some hits and you can expect to tank other hits most of the time. With AA you have no guarantee you'll be able to avoid taiha from air strike or even disable some shitty Nu flag.
These situations aren't comparable at all.
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>>16299286
>Isuzu, the best CL
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>>16299225
If you did hard mode every time, you should have 14 expansion slots by now, which is quite generous already.
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>>16299298
You are the one who should fuck off with your delusions. One Akizuki is worth way more than Kinu, Satsuki and Isuzu combined in terms of AA.
>>
They gave out a few CD for quests, why couldn't the upgrade just include these instead of this 5x triple 25mm shit
>>
https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=196989
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>>16299276
No because torp and accuracy actually matters, if you want to waste your time farming Mayas and then spend a bunch of screws to have 3-5 more AA than other AA guns, go ahead. Only ship that actually needs them is Maya and maybe Akizuki if you want to give her even more AA with the slot now.
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>>16299302

>you know exact range you can roll

And the range of the roll is so fucking big you may as well call it completely random. Prinz herself, depending on the roll, can get DD tier armor or Yamato tier armor.

>>16299313

>Locking a duck to a Transport combined fleet map.

ISHYGDDT
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>>16299310
>used my expansions on shit like akitsumaru and kamo

JUST
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>>16299330
My nigga, no regrets. Fastsuck, too.
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>>16299328
>there are extremes so whole mechanic is completely random
Fuck off.
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>>16298945
Maybe they should try adding not shit buffs and not giving them to the abyssals too, more like the opening ASW.
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>>16299330
>>16299332
Hayasui and Akitsumaru are rather unique and can be clutch as far as event maps are concerned. Kamo? not so much.
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>>16299328
>Locking a duck to a Transport combined fleet map.
>implying that's a problem when you have 3
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>>16299325

>spend a bunch of screws to have 3-5 more AA than other AA guns

Ah, I see you've got no idea what you are talking about. Go read the wiki and then come back.
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>>16299328
Come next year we're going to have four unique Akizuki-class DDs, why the hell would locking one in a transport map ever be a problem?
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>>16299337

Not that anon but I punched a hole into Kamo just for 6-4. A bit regretful now.
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>>16299310
Keyword: keep

It will be pretty bullshit if they stop giving them. I doubt they'll go that way.

>>16299332
Fastsuck one is pretty good, you never know when you are going to need the power of p2w barrels.
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>>16299356
You fucking coward, my Kamo soldiered on through that map in chuuha half the time and only ever got taiha'd at the boss, and she was in the 50s.
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>>16299339
All 25mm have +1 evasion and they all get the same torp and firepower from upgrades.
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>>16299361

Yep, still clueless
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>>16299364
Please, tell us mere mortals what makes Mayas gun so much more amazing on ships that don't need AACI compared to other AA guns.
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>>16299367

Read the wiki.
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>>16299328
Okay, so let's use Kongou instead of Yamato because Kongou can roll higher armor than Yamato's lowest.

>Bulges are a meme anyway
Meme yourself out of existence, ASAP.
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>>16299373
So you don't know either, got it.
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>>16299373
>You have to farm this shitty gun
>Why?
>Read the wiki

Fuck off.
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>>16299387

You were claiming that armor mechanics aren't as random as AA mechanics when that very same example shows how random armor can get.
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>>16299399
Yes, they aren't as random. At all. Go back to school and learn about probability, expected values and so on.

>everything that has random element is random to the exact same degree
Fuck off.
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>>16299390

>shitty gun
>Highest AA gun that you can upgrade and aquire in game.
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>>16299411
Which is worse than Bofors.
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>>16299367
Not that guy, but I'll spoonfeed you:
25mm CD has 9*6 = 54 effective AA
25mm triple +3 has (6*6)+(4*sqrt(3)) = 42.9 effective AA
25mm CD +3 has (9*6)+(4*sqrt(3)) = 60.9 effective AA
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>>16299424
>AA

It's fucking nothing.
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>>16299424
I think you forgot the 0.7 modifier.
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>>16299419

Can you get extra Bofors though?
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>>16299432
The 0.7 modifier is obsolete and has been replaced by +EquipMod*sqrt(stars)
>>16299430
Read the wiki.
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>>16299433
No but power of (CD) isn't big enough to warrant farming. You can use other guns. Pompom has +10 AA if I remember correctly, actually more than (CD). Bulges are also very useful thing to equip in expansion slot.
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>>16299430

>Nothing
>In a game of min-maxing stuff

Get a load of this guy
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>>16299441

You can't upgrade Pompom.
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>>16299447
So what?
Are you really going to upgrade a dozen of AA guns? There are better things to do.
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>>16299443
AA isn't worth minmaxing this hard. Do you also think Fubuki is better than other ships because muh AA or something?
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Where is she taking the admiral?
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>>16299451

Oh, so you don't have your equips upgraded to max already?
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>>16299438
>Read the wiki.
So you don't know shit. Otherwise you would be capable of explaining stuff yourself.
Reality is, you have no idea how big effect AA has but saw that AA guns have big multiplier, got excited and now try to force everyone into wasting time.
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>>16299464
51cm, 16inch, sextuples and a dozen of (3)? No, not yet, just halfway there.
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>>16299455
I don't think you understand how powerful AA guns are now. The extra equip slot with a 25mm CD is equivalent to:
+5.4 planes for flat shootdown
+13.5% planes for proportional AA
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>>16299464
Show me those maxed planes, 16inch and radars big guy.
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>>16299465

>try to force everyone into wasting time

It's only you who is feeling forced to do stuff. You can do whatever you want with your screws and time, it's not my problem. Don't come complaining when Wo Kai with jets taiha your ships due to lack of AA though.
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>>16299474
It doesn't affect all slots though, just a random one.
>>
Thing is, there is a whole lot of other thing which take priority over upgrading CD, unless you're sitting on a huge pile of screws.

I can see the value of upgrading triple 25mm to max though, on the days you don't have anything else you want available, 1 screw all the way to max and a small bonus to FP/torp on DDs you punched.
>>
>>16299477
If you want to say something, say it instead of shitposting.
>>
someone tell me that type 13 air radar Kai I upgraded to max is useful
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>>16299490
For Akizuki yes.
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>>16299480
This. 25mm triple is a much better choice for upgrading when you actually think about this and take into account how limited screws are.
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>>16299483

Are you new?

>>16299490

Aerial radars get a multiplier too, halve the one that get AA guns though.
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>>16299474
>I don't think you understand how powerful AA guns are now

I do and I also understand it's not worth my time and resources.
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>>16299490
The best non-Maya AACI is two Akizuki guns and air radar. T13K is the best air radar for Akizuki-class. You did well.
>>
>>16299501
No but you seem to be. You won't fit in by shouting "read the wiki", nor will you make anyone treat stuff you say seriously. As it is now, you're just a bother. If you actually knew something, which I can't help but doubt, it would be even a bigger shame because for some reason you choose to be a useless time waster instead of helping your fellow anons.

If you think you have to be edgy and cryptic 24/7, fuck off to different site.
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>>16299516
but "read the wiki", "small c" and redirecting to /c/ are my favorite memes
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>>16299516
>helping your fellow anons.
What you want is for him to spoonfeed, not help.
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>>16299532
No.
AA mechanics aren't common knowledge and they aren't discussed in detail in these threads. "Read the wiki" only applies to shit everybody should already know like artillery spotting.
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>>16299541

Except you haven't read the wiki.
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>>16299547
Reddit, go away.
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>>16299552

>Implying redditards read wikiwiki.
>>
>>16299552
Reddit doesn't use the wiki, they use reddit.
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>>16299552
Reddit might be slightly better than wikiatards at this point.
>>
>100 posts later
>shitposting continues
>still no actual data
Wow, so good.
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It's friday, I have murakumo as a second ship, but I can only upgread a quad torpedo instead of tiple, which I want to upgrade. What's wrong?
>>
>>16299567
If only it could be avoided by posting something useful.
>>
>>16299571
You think the F stands for Murakumo?
>>
>>16299571
Are you blind, Anon?
>>
>>16299571
What do you think F and M means?
>>
>>16299571
Friday is Fubuki day
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>>16299571
You're using wikia which has retarded tables everywhere.
Note the F. Only Fubuki can upgrade it today. You shouldn't be upgrading triple torpedoes though.
>>
>>16299571
Better question is why you're upgrading normal triples in the first place.
>>
the only way Satsuki or Isuzu will be useful with AACI is if there will be more than 4 locks. Even then it's not like 2 duck guns + air radar is a bad DD load out.
>>
Akashi arsenal is such a clusterfuck. Whole list of upgradeable items should be available in the fucking game in a single spot. A single drop-down menu would be much better than this shit we have now. Blocking options due to unavailable ships / wrong days is really damn easy.
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>>16299581
I have no idea, to be honest. It says "2nd ship" and mrkm is there.
>>16299584
Ohhh, now I get it.
>>16299586
Because I still don't have any OX ones. I'll have one, in 3 more lvls for murakumo.
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>>16299589
That won't be a problem once Suzutsuki is added.
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>>16299592
You will get Oxy quads soon. There's no need to waste screws on non-Oxy torps. Kitakami and Ooi have two Quads (Oxy) at lv10 already. However now, as a new admiral, you should be focusing on AP Shells, 35.6cm or normal 12.7cm (however it's only good as a "free" upgrade if you didn't farm Akizuki last event). Torps won't help you much at the moment and by the time next event comes, you will already have three Quints.
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>>16299589
>Even then it's not like 2 duck guns + air radar is a bad DD load out.
It's actually the best loadout for both Isuzu and Satsuki (Kasumi too). Kinu's unique AACI at least is slightly stronger with 5 planes but it still makes her rather useless in yasen so I would choose BBR on her anyway.
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>>16299599
It's for quest, I already maxed quad ox, and I only need a maxed thiple ox to put them on shimakaze.
Thanks for advice.
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>>16299591
Your proposal wouldn't be as fun.
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>>16299609
Yeah they do
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>>16299609
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>>16299616
>>16299619
Ignore me, despite reading quads out loud my mind kept registering quints.
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>>16299609
>hurr

>>16299611
Getting triple oxy through Akashi is way too costly. Just get Fubuki to Kai Ni. I know it's painful, everybody goes through it.
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>>16299622
That would've been lovely
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>>16299622
Sorry anon. Let this be a lesson to double check your posts. It might be in effect for two or three days. I speak from experience.
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>>16299607
There is only one situation where Satsuki and Isuzu would be better then.

Submarine maps with carrier nodes
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>>16299623
>I know it's painful, everybody goes through it.
I didn't and I still don't have sex because of it. I'd rather go all the way til the death of the game without it than to level up that bitch.
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>>16299623
You need Fubuki Kai Ni to max them anyway.
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You may only choose one.
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>>16299645
I choose to kill them instead.
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>>16299635
>I didn't and I still don't have sex because of it.
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>>16299645

>choose one

Impossible
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>>16299648
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>>16299635
>I still don't have sex because of it

I don't think that's the problem.
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>>16299645
In absence of Warezuki, it'd be Warusame.
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>>16299645
Where the fuck is BB water demon?
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>>16299634
Yes but many would rather choose to take AACI Akizuki and give ASW focus to other ships. Or if they have married Akizuki, give her two guns and sonar (at 137). Even lower Akizuki is fine with Urakaze guns (level 132 or 133 should be enough then).
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>>16299669

>Akizuki AACI with just 2 HA guns

Arguably worse than Kinu K2 AACI with HA+CD. Also, a single Sonar will just scratch So Flag and maybe chuuha So Elite, which are the only reason you equip OASW on ships.
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>>16299669
sub home was a bitch to farm last event. I think I'd still rather bring all the ASW I can.
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>>16299645
>SAMPLE
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>>16299696
It shoots down 4 planes. As good as BBR on non-Akizuki ships.
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So, can anyone explain how big impac AA has? As I understand it, enemy bomber slots are each randomly assigned to exactly one of our ships. So even if we had some AA queen with five max CD, she could still shoot down absolutely nothing with a bad roll?
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>>16299743

Kinu K2 AACI with HA+CD shoots down 5 planes though.
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>>16299776
Oh, I thought she needed air radar for 5 planes. Hmm, that makes her pretty god now on ASW+AA maps.
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>>16299780

She's pretty great now on lots of stuff, specially now with the Akashi hole.
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>>16299786
You have in mind something else than this and expeditions?
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>>16299743
Nah, Akizuki double HA AACI is strictly better than normal AACI because of it's higher k value. It's what makes AACI strong in the first place.
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>>16299808
>k value
Umm, what? Could you elaborate?
I imagine it has higher proc rate because Akizuki's very high base AA and that's the argument I would use for it being better than BBr on other ships.
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>>16299795

She can do that AACI while having double attack at daytime with HA+Red (Or another HA)+plane+CD.

She can do Torp cut-in and AACI with 2*torp+HA+CD

And of course, she can do OASW+AACI with Sonar+Depth charge+12.7HA Late model+CD.
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>>16299814
Sorry but I don't have time to explain in depth, basically AACI helps you shoot down more planes other than the flat rate that you always see. Read the Aerial Combat section in the wiki if you want to know more.
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>>16299832
>>>/c/
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>>16299820
Oh, with Akizuki gun it would indeed be a double attack as she is a CL and can equip DD guns. With 5inch or 90mm however you would only get secondary cut-in.

>TCI
I don't think anyone here has luck modded Kinu and her TCI is weak anyway. But well, technically it is a possibility.

I think oASW + AACI is the only one which will see real use.
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>>16299825
>basically AACI helps you shoot down more planes other than the flat rate that you always see
I know about it. However we are comparing two AACIs.
AACI is something separate from fixed and proprotional AA.
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So, Kusada Souta is a girl?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QojWRpwEc6s
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>>16299859
How new can you be?
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Fucking LD on 4-5 reached boss node 6-7 times with heavy fleet only to be choked or do scratch damage in NB. Stupid meme BB's
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>>16299868
Meme yourself.
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>>16299864
Souta Kusada sounds boyish-like name, well at least for me.
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>>16299868
>going south
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>>16299868
>not going mid
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>>16299840

There is a fixed amount of planes we've got a chance to shoot down. This fixed amount can be multiplied by the K value of the triggered AACI as a bonus when it happens.

Kinu K2 AAC has a K value of 1.45

Akizuki AACI with 2 HA guns has a K value of 1.6.
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>>16299895
>This fixed amount can be multiplied by the K value of the triggered AACI as a bonus when it happens.
Whaaaat? How come we didn't know about this until now? There was so much research about AACI. Do you have a link to list which shows K values?
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>>16299949
We did.
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>>16299951
No, we didn't. I read almost all threads thoroughly and don't remember it being mentioned.
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>>16299955
You forgot about it then.
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>>16299949
Maybe if you bothered reading wikiwiki or the chink sites you'd be up to date.
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>>16299881
>going mid
>taking BB
>not going 1CL 2CA(V) 3CV
Die.
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>>16299957
More like you're bullshitting me. We talk about AACI all the time but this K thing is never mentioned.
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>>16299949
We always suspected that AACI had some additional bonus to AA defense, but it wasn't until the KCVita datamine that we saw that it had to be a multiplier to AA defense for the data to make sense. You can see a list of the K-values in the aerial combat page in the wikia.
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>>16299949

We knew about the K value for a long time. We now have a pretty acurate AA formula for our fleet too, which includes the K value. Just head over to the Aerial combat section of the wiki and you'll find both the formula and the K value of the most relevant K values. A lot of then are unknown though.

Also, it's not exactly multiplying, I said it like that to simplify it. Just read the info at the wiki and you'll get the full picture.
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>>16299969

of the most relevant AACI
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>>16299966
No I'm not, did you not bother reading the translations from the chink datamining from the vita game?
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>>16299963
This is an English speaking site. Sure, /jp/ can navigate nip sites but thinking everybody regularly reads Japanese and Chinese blogs in detail is simply wrong.

>>16299968
Yeah, I see it now. Previous version of that table didn't have this column. A shame nobody posted about wikia updating this.

>>16299969
Great. How about you actually tell when those pages change stuff? Wikia has been known to be shit for a long time and had a lot of outdated info everywhere so nobody sane would check it every day just to see if they miraculously got good. You have to mention this shit.
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>>16299977
Of course I didn't after I saw it doesn't have the same mechanics. Vita data isn't a concrete proof for the main game. It's at best a possibility. Without the confirmation in main game, Vita data is worthless.
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>>16299991

The problem is that most of the forefront info about research in Kancolle comes from blogs in the japanese wikia, BBS and twitter.

It's a pain in the ass, specially if you don't know japanese. I wish some anon could relay that info here too. We've got anons monitoring chinese threads and reporting so I dunno why we still don't have an anon or two who follow this stuff and report it.
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>>16299991
>You have to mention this shit.
How about you stop being a lazy shit and check it once a month?
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>>16299991
> A shame nobody posted about wikia updating this.
>nobody sane would check it every day just to see if they miraculously got good
This is an instance where "read the wiki" is appropriate (with reference to what was changed). Even if you don't hear it here, it should be something you'd do yourself when you're curious about a certain mechanic (and only when).
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>>16296874
They might lose the tsun and that would be terrible.
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>>16300018
Check what? Wikia? Why would I check a site which I know for a fact consists mostly of retards and can keep wrong info for years? You have no right to call me a lazy shit in this situation because me not checking wikia was simply logical. It isn't a matter of laziness.

>>16300026
>(with reference to what was changed)
Exactly. And it has never happened. If it was mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised. I even checked the archives now and the only instances I can find of K value being talked about are from this very discussion.

>it should be something you'd do yourself when you're curious about a certain mechanic
Why would I do that when according to my knowledge up to that point everything has already been known? There's no reason for something which (according to knowledge at the time) doesn't exist.
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>>16300045
no reason to search for*
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>>16299991
Oh, fuck off to whatever board you come from or lurk more, newfag
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What does no wild cards mean?
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>>16300059
No extra ships.
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>>16300045
>Why would I do that when according to my knowledge up to that point everything has already been known?
Formulae change in favour of more accurate ones as more testing is done (or changes by devs are applied). This much you should be aware of.
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>>16300067
Yeah but I'm also aware of the fact that whenever something changes with BB guns, it is posted here. We had a million of discussions about various AACI setups on various ships and this "k value" was never mentioned (or almost never, there is a chance I missed one discussion or two even though I've been reading every thread for more than two years and tried to caught up every time I wasn't at PC for a day or two.
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>>16300067
*Formulæ
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>>16300074
>I've been reading every thread for more than two years
That sounds really pathetic.
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>>16300045
>>16300052

You can use this page for english wikia.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity

Or this for the japanese wikia

http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E5%88%A5:%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%A0

BBS:

http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/netgame/13745/

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/KanColle/index.html

Blogs:

http://kankoregouchin.blog.fc2.com/

some more I don't remember now...

And a fuckton of fags in twitter who, despite posting interesting info, also use their accounts to post personal shit you don't care a bit about. Annoying as fuck. Thankfully, almost everything relevant is posted in the japanese wikia or wiki wiki and sometimes reach english wikia too.

The problem is, lik I said, unless you are japanese or proficient at japanese it's a big pain in the ass because most of the times you've got to read a fuckton of unrelated info.

Anyway, I'm sure there are more sources out there.
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>>16300103
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Aerial_Combat#Notes_3

So just another variable to keep track of, not too bad.
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>>16300122
I want to FUCK Sara's butt.
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>>16300122
I bet her legs are nice and warm inside those boots.
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>>16300122
I can't even look at Iowa anymore without hearing her voice and getting nauseous.
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>>16300122
This is amazing.
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>>16300122
Well fuck, that image looks great. A shame Yoshi didn't make a seasonal for them. Hopefully next year.
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>>16300096
>kaga
>>>/a/
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"Read the wiki" my ass. Even the wiki doesn't say anything about k value in the AACI section. It has a column in a table but that's it. Nothing else.
The closest thing is a very vague
>Akizuki-class destroyers and Maya Kai-2 have a hidden bonus to certain AA Cut-in setups which increases the effectiveness tremendously.
Which is also wrong because K value is listed for other setups as well. There goes your well written and updated wikia page which everyone should trust.

However K value is mention in the AA formula (as a part of image, so it can't even be ctrl+f'd). It's apparently a modifier for fixed AA. Now that is pretty big. It's something valuable. It's worth talking about. Especially when we have discussions about AACI basically every day. I'm so glad everyone knew about it since forever.

This whole thing is written in horribly unintuitive way. I had to use ctrl+f to sort everything out without wasting an hour on multiple re-reads. And what I said about k value not being talked about in these threads remains a fact.


>>16300103
Thank you a lot, I'll bookmark those.
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>>16300155

If you read something interesting please return the favour and report it. I can read only basic japanese so despite knowing where the info comes from I can't really read it, at least not for too long before I get exasperated with how bad is machine translation.

You can quickly know where the info comes from in wikia by looking at the references part of the articles.
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>>16300155
Knowing the k value doesn't really change much.
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>>16300160
Why did she have to get a a dumb looking crown?
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>>16300157
MUH
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>>16300157
>>>/e/
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>>16300172
I guess its supposed to make you want to use girls like Isuzu and Kinu more since there is more value to it than meets the eye? I honestly don't see much of a difference for girls like Akizuki and Maya since the set ups with the highest k value are ones people already use.
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>>16300172

It doesn't change which kind of AACI we will be using, yeah. But now that we now a proper formula and the K value we can know exactly what to expect from our AA. There will be instances too where you won't use duck or Maya AACI so it helps for that too.
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>>16300169
Yeah, that's what I do whenever I encounter something new. My Japanese is still very basic but it should improve dramatically in near future if everything goes as planned.
When BB guns were tested after 16inch got introduced I was lurking twitter and reporting results as they came by and when I noticed wikia has finally sorted out info about anti-installation equipment I immediately mentioned this and linked it when appropriate.
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>>16300174
To prevent her from being too top-heavy, I guess.
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>>16300160
>>>/c/
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>>16300200
>>>/s4s/
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>>16300174
Why does she have stupid accessories and a retarded rigging in general? The world may never know.
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>>16300215
We can guess: royal motif.
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>>16300215
He pulled a chinkcolle with the rigging and of course it looks like shit.
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>>16300221
Well that's silly. The cranes don't look any thing like birds.
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>>16297181

Why isn't Suzuya wearing a bra?
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>>16300172
It makes the difference between Akizuki and Maya smaller. It's also relevant for previously mentioned example of Akizuki with HH vs other DD with BBR. What's most important, it greatly improves the value of AACI in general because mere presence of AACI boosts your fleet's AA capability significantly.
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>>16300215
It's all part of her "kit".
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>>16300225
Many ships don't wear underwear apparently going by their damage sprite. And Suzuya is Suzuya.
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>>16300224
turkey ja nai
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>>16300226
>What's most important, it greatly improves the value of AACI in general because mere presence of AACI boosts your fleet's AA capability significantly.
I thought it was generally accepted that it was better to go with AACI than without when it came to fighting enemy carriers.
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>>16300225
It would look bad with that outfit.
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There's one more thing which isn't clear. Does the K modifier have any effect if AACI doesn't trigger?
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>>16300157
援交援交援交援交援交援交援交援交
大好きだよ
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>>16300246
Read wikiwiki.
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Suzuya and Kumano are ready to be great wives and mothers.
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>>16300246

No. You simply apply the K value of the AACI of the ship that triggered it. Rest AACI ships are ignored.
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>>16300160
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>>16300242
That's pretty vague. Having a concrete reason as to why it is good to have AACI is quite important in my opinion. Someone might say "4 planes isn't enough to avoid taiha in air strike" but after he learns BBR on his Fubuki additionally multiplies fixed AA x1.5 he might change his opinion.
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>>16300246
>>16300255

If there is no AACI triggered, you simply ignore the K value in the formula
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>>16300257
She could rule me in bed.
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What the hell is this BBR shit you niggers are talking about? Double Bofors?
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>>16300259
>Fubuki
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>>16300257
I got a chuckle.
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>>16300271
What if she wanted to experiment with urethral insertions?
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>>16300255
>>16300260
Thank you.

As I understand it, it's possible that no bombers will be assigned to the AACI ship, right? In that case even having super Maya triggering her AACI won't help that much when you're unlucky. I don't like how RNG has so much to say here.

>>16300279
It's explained in AACI table on wiki.
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>>16300289
disgusting
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>>16300259
I can't imagine anyone except newbies would eschew AACI, especially after seeing the cutin animation visibly wipe out a large section of the enemy airforce, though I agree that concrete info helps inform these decisions.
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>>16300157
Better pay her more so you can do it raw
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>>16300292
No. The K value bonus applies to the whole fleet. >>16299808 shows you that.
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>>16300292

No, the K value affects the Fixed Air Defense formula of all ships in the fleet.
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>>16300299
Think about maps where you have to make a decision between AACI ship and TCI or anti-installation ship.
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>>16300279
Big Black Rocks
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>>16300307
>>16300309
Oh, okay. That makes the K a very significant modifier. It also means high proc rate is even more important. Thank you guys.
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>>16300323
You should read data more carefully before asking questions.
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>>16300279
BBR stands for [B]uilt-in HA mount, [B]uilt-in HA mount, Air [R]adar. It's an abbreviation for the HA+FD AACI.
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>>16300334
Wasn't that just known as HHR?
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>>16297175
>>16297181
I have always kept Suzuya pure and untainted in my mind. Now I want to fuck her so bad holy shit.

>>16297189
>>16297199
Kumano is still pure.
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https://twitter.com/sou_mikagami/status/811822862503845888
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>>16300337
>I have always kept Suzuya pure and untainted in my mind.
I don't believe you.
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>>16300330
No amount of reading would help here because what you are talking about isn't written there.
>K is the Anti Air Cut-In multiplier to Fixed Air Defense. This is a modifier independent of the flat shootdown caused by AACI, and depends on the API identity of the triggered AACI. See the Anti Air Cut In table in the respective section for a list of K-value correspond to different AACI API numbers
It's the only thing about K.

Their example is also worthless because it assumes a fleet consisting of Maya only. Whole thing is written horribly in general. For example they don't even specify at which point of formula AACI is applied, you can only suspect it happens at the very end from
>Finally, one bomber from each enemy squadron will always be shot down regardless of success or failure of the previous two chances for friendly ships on abyssal. If AACI was committed, then it would also shoot down a specific amount of planes per slot according to the AACI's API type.
It should be a separate bullet point.


It's a far cry from damage calculation formula which is very clear.


>>16300336
H is different from B. Urakaze guns are H but not B. All B count as H though.
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>>16300340
Good, more doujins should concentrate on that nice booty.
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>>16300340
Good god, Suzuya is a sexbomb.
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Blessent mon cœur
D'une langueur
Monotone.
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>>16300310
I'm not convinced. Reading a map's composition ahead of time would give a general feel for the level of danger from carriers and other threats which can be adjusted for accordingly, even without making calculations.
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>>16300368
Shit looking art.
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>>16300367
That's Saratoga though.
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>>16300359
>H is different from B. Urakaze guns are H but not B. All B count as H though.
Then why does the wikia still list Akiduki's AACI with HHR?
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>>16300382
Look at his other works.
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>s-rank the boss nodes on 1-1 and 1-2
>get sent north on 1-1 five times in a row
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>>16300397
Meh
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>>16300359

To be honest anon, Im the guy who was answering your questions earlier and for me it's pretty obvious all of that if you read the whole thing.
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>>16300369
It's not really about making calculations, it's about knowing that AACI has bigger impact than just the small amount of planes shot down across the board from all slots. If you go full p2w and give everyone AA guns in expansion slots it would mean all of them benefit from K modifier greatly which would essentially result in "second", possibly even stronger AACI happening. That gives much more weight to the AACI ship when you're making decisions.

Bofors alone results in fixed 10 planes shot down assuming Akizuki was the one to proc her strongest AACI. If you have Bofors on every ship in expansion slot, you're guaranteed 10 more planes shot down from every single slot.

Of course, it's just a theoretical scenario, you won't have so many Bofors but ship AA matters too, you have other eq and you can use different aa guns which can be upgraded.
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>>16300387

Because Akizuki has the AA fire director inside herself so she should be able to trigger the same API as with her own guns with simple HA guns + radar.
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>>16300387
Because her unique AACI is indeed HHR. If you used Urakaze guns instead of Akizuki guns, the amount of planes shot down by the AACI would be exact same.

>>16300419
I'm pretty sure it only seems obvious to you because you already knew about it from other, better written source. Can you please specify which part clearly states that K applies to every single ship? Or that it's counted only when AACI procs? It's possible I'm mistaken and indeed missed something but right now I'm not seeing it.
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>>16300421
>you're guaranteed 10 more planes shot down from every single slot
50%
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>>16300440
True, I got ahead of myself.
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>>16300430
>Because Akizuki has the AA fire director inside herself
That doesn't sound healthy.
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>>16300447
It's in her ponytail.
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>>16300436

Actually, the first place I read it from was in wikia. Then I went to wikiwiki and japanese wikia and confirmed it there.

It's all there, take a moment to read it carefully.
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>>16300452
Much better. Teruzuki holds her between boobs and Hatsuzuki has one attached to wrist. I wonder where will Suzutsuki/Fuyutsuki have hers.
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>>16300421
>It's not really about making calculations, it's about knowing that AACI has bigger impact than just the small amount of planes shot down across the board from all slots.
Most people had accepted that AACI downs more planes than regular AA ever since the mechanic was introduced. When a map has a large enough air threat, general convention is to have at least one AACI user.
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>>16300464
Shoulder maybe?
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>>16300464
Butt.
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>>16300466
>AACI downs more planes than regular AA
Well, that's obvious because AACI happens in addition to normal AA.
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>>16300466
Of course, especially because AACI has the possibility of downing ALL the planes.

Good luck managing that without an AACI user no matter how you equip your fleet for AA.
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>>16300496

It's actually possible, even against a Wo Kai as long as you have good luck and trigger Proportional and fixed air defence in most of your ships.
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>>16300477
I just don't see the argument for increasing the "importance of AACI" when most people see it as essential already.
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>>16300496
I had it happen with floating fortress on '15 Spring E5, on 3-5, multiple times on 4-5 and many times on 3-3. It definitely happened many more times but I don't always watch battles and the carriers shell so late they often get disabled before their turn anyway.
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>>16300510
Kinda. It has more to do with blind composition copying though and while it wasn't as prominent lately, I've seen the argument about 4-8 planes shot down being a small number many times in the past. Now we finally know why AACI made such a huge difference.
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>>16300340
I am glad Saratoga had been getting focus on her ass.
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is the 2-5 composition with 3 light carriers better than the one with 2? are you supposed to use just 3 cruisers with it?
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>>16300208
>>>/b/
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>>16300585
Read the branching rules.
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I keep thinking that Yamakaze is Vert's lesbian lover from Neptunia. Doesn't help that they have similar personalities.
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>>16300613

>Yamakaze
>Chika
>similar personalities

WTF are you smoking anon? gimme some.
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I'm glad this discussion happened, now I finally learned more about AA.
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I just realized that large bulges are craftable and now spent 36k steel just to craft a single one.
Well, Pugliese and AA guns are better anyways, right?
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>>16300613
Yawn.
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>>16300662
Bulge is good on pasta ships
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>>16300662
I still don't have one and now I need two for my big wives.
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>>16300692
>>>/u/
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>>16300696
Are you the kind of asshole that sees homoeroticism in everything?
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>>16300673
And I have a hole in every retard except Maya, ducks and pastas.
Can I take it back from Akitsushima at least? I don't mind if it would be painful.
>>
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Type_21_Air_Radar_Kai

Besides making one for the entry in the pokedex, any other good reason to make one?
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>>16300700
k
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>>16300710
cuter fairy than the fumo's
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>>16300710
Upgradeable AA Radar.
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>>16300710
Maya and Maya only
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>>16300727
what are they doing??
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>>16300731
Stealing her panties
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>>16300731
Gathering recon data.
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Sara has something delicious just for you.
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>>16300710

Not really, only useful for completing AACI setups. For starters, a type 14 radar is better than that for AA purposes. Then again An AA gun is better than any air radar if you want to get more AA or a type 32 (Kai) radar if you want better accuracy, LoS and double attack/cut-in chance.
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>>16300744
>>>/ck/
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>>16300744
Fuck, forgot image.
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>>16300753
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>>16300753
I thought it was her ass you were referring to.
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God damm it Fujikawa. Also, fuck you Tanaka, give her more girls to draw besides gumos already.
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>>16300779
What? It's just typical damaged CG?
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Wow, the combat page now even has the ASW tables.
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Is it safe to scrap shitkawa now?
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>>16300821
Who?
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>>16300779
Fujikawa can replicate real life equipment so good and create even cuter girls, I cannot believe she is stuck with DDs and little adults.
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>>16300823
the purple hair bitch ass that we had to level last event
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>>16300828
>we
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>>16300824
Akashi and Yodo ?
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>>16300821
Tanaka won't pass up doing the nuclear gimmick again if we ever get another Crossroads ship.
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>>16300824
>she is stuck with DDs and little adults.
I'm not seeing the problem.
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>>16300799
I'm still mad Ooyodo was indirectly nerfed
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>>16300828
Pyaa is good girl, you know.
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>>16300828
Tenryuu?
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heheh
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>>16300872
Now make her eat it.
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>>16300879
While eating her?
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>>16300882
Sure.
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>>16300872
Even the devs have fun.
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How would a VR version work?
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Why did they give only one furniture fairy, I need one more please!
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>>16300912

I just know the UI would be infinitely better.
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>>16300912
You could see their pantsu underneath their skirts.
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>>16300912
It wouldn't, its just putting a monitor right in your face and your eyes and head start to hurt.
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>>16300872
Can someone explain the Turkey meme please?
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>>16300926

Something about 'turkey shoot' banter at the Marianas.
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>>16300912
You navigate menus and interact with fairies and ships by punching the air like a lunatic.
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>>16300940
Or you hold a joystick and everything is just three dee
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>>16295787

KUSO
U
S
O
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>>16300912
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>ttk lvl 99
>my 4th ss
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>>16301009
Waking up as doggykaza is a fate worse than death
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>>16301013
You only got 4 all that time?
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>>16300882
Like vore?
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https://exhentai.org/g/1008842/ef3b73c7d8/
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>>16301018
I got my 4th one like 6 hours ago.
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>>HHR is best for Duckies due to 1.7K value
>Can't upgrade 10cm HAs or Urakaze guns

So how theoretically good will be a BBR setup with full equipment upgrades be on a ducky, by comparison?
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>>16301024
What is she using at the end, a Hi Power?
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>>16301028
Please farm more at events anon, they drop like crazy on some maps.
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It's weird that one of the most significant populations of KanCollefags on 4chan can be found on /pol/.
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>>16301053
I bet one of the anon there must be that Silvermond guy.
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>>16301057
But /pol/ loves burger botes, unlike Silvermond.
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>>16301053

Oh no, I've been found out.
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Hardest map in female sea vessels compilation
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How does Miyuki even know about TBD or SBD?
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>>16301074
wikipedia
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>>16301071
Did it once but didn't have quest selected, felt like it was time for suicide, but then I did it with quest selected and got to boss again, so suicide was avoided.
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>>16301053
It's pretty nationalistic, especially Iowa's outfit.
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>>16301098
They seem to have taken a liking to Sara as well.
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>>16301071
It's so annoying because in the beginning having a moderately low rate to get to the boss node made sense to level shipgirls and not unlock new maps too quickly.
But when you have to go back and do them for quests later on its just frustrating .
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>Ta one hits full HP Turkey every run of 3-5
For fucks sake
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After killing everything on 5-4 for half a year and farming every possible ship there, this finally happens.

Post your Christmas miracles.
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I want to sing carols with the nazis.
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>>16301126
Do you not have your tank upgraded or something? Why do you need a shocuckyou
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>>16301074
There is probably a school in the base kind of like the anime.
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Warspite is so beautiful. I wish I could have her.
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>>16301030
What are you talking about? Akizuki guns + RADAR defaults to API 1 AACI on ducks.
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Can they get any bigger?
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Today's her birthday: say something nice about her.
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>>16301188
How new are you?
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>>16301227
They're getting bigger since I knocked her up

Problem is, her nips are getting darker and she's getting crankier
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>>16301053
Fucking bandwagonfags ruined everything, no wonder this thread is shit for years
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How far should I level my akashi? I've been meaning to level her since I got her but she's still level 35
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>>16301228
I want to headpat her.
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>>16301254
155.
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>>16301228
I have too many of her
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>>16301228
Cutest Potato. Great personality and stonking great thighs and ass.
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>>16301228

Greatest twintail potato in the game.
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>>16301227
P U R E.
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How much do bulges help with 5-5?
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>>16301284
Not much
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>>16301277
Are there any other potato twintails though?

Isonami has twin braids so that doesn't count
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Someone should cover up her shamefulness.
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4koma updated
is Fall event episode
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>>16301311
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>>16301318
self reply
WOW
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At what point will destroyers go too far?
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These threads have gotten pretty shitty since /a/ banned them.
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>>16301368
>>>/e/
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>>16301370
recent one was pruned, as usual they're going to flock here again
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>>16301379
But why they here though ?
Why not /c/ , or /e/ ?
Or even /b/ ?
>>
Using Gakada's KCV fork, I came across a weird issue where it would crash after an expedition returned. Yuubari and vanila KCV don't crash, so I started removing plugins from Gakada. After removing WindowsNotifier.dll, the crashes stopped. Any foreseeable reason for this?
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>>16301396
Because those aren't yuri friendly enough.
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>>16301396
simple Its a KanColle thread
the one in /c/ is barely touched, /b/ would have them as a snack, /e/ is meh

>>16301403
oh yeah the /u/ board, delusional central
where: "if it dont have a TTK its 'yuri' doujin"
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Anyone know where can one find any canon heights of the shipgirls?
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>>16301413
No.
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>>16301413
>>16301422
>samefag
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>>16301413
This is as close as you are getting
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>>16301413
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>>16301459
Thanks anon, any chance you have specific numbers or where I could find the original?
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>>16301479
it was released for the anime, youre better off with the other picture since the anime has its own cannon.

might want to look around here to find some
high references.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=kantai_collection
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>>16301507
I prefer >>16301459 over >>16301443
Because giant girls are not my thing.
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>>16301479
No numbers but to just get an idea.
I dislike the idea like this >>16301443
That some of the girls are just giants. It's a big turn off.
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>>16301551
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>>16301443
wow kamo was a midget compared to the other seaplane tenders
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Why is she making that face?
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>>16301622
>Easy mode
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>>16301229
I wish I could have her in my arms.
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>>16301402
Check the file properties on WindowsNotifier.dll or try replacing with one from the other builds.
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So, hypothetically speaking, if Tanaka decide to end (well, hopefully never) Kantai Collection service, would he most definitely introduce THIS one, in the last event?
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>finally double jets
>try too 4-5
>underwhelming as fuck
>eaten by tsu like shit
>>
>attempt Bm7
>forget to set DD as flagship
>beat the whole map with only 1 chuuha total
>set DD as flagship
>gold CLT composition 10 times in a row
Why do even I play this fucking game.
>>
anyone from Hashirajima server has a bug where your losing plane proficiency at the storage especially torp bomers?
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>>16301915
On Hashirajima but I don't understand your question
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>>16301915
Did you use them on PvP before?
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>>16301228

My first carrier, even before Akagi.
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>>16301919
Planes on storage (unequipped planes) are losing proficiency.
>>16301920
no, I don't use bombers/torpedo bombers on pvp.
I got home and started doing daily quest and i saw 5 of my torpedo bomber lose their proficiency and reset to zero.
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>>16301901
Beat them with day double attacks.
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How many drums do you have? How many do you need? I'm thinking 74 because

3(expedition fleets)*14(slots excluding daihatsu)+4(slots)*8(number of cavs + yuubaris + ooyodos)=74

although i only have 69 atm and I have like 3 pages excess
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>>16302085
Are you sure someone didn't use your account while you were away? My double chev is still on my bombers even though I haven't used them in forever.
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>>16302087
No. The number of dums you need is:
10 for ex38
5 for ex37
4 for ex 21
4 for 5-4
That's it.
However if you want to have any sort of comfort, add a buffer of 30-80 drums just to keep them on your DDs.
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>>16302087
Transport fleet is combined, so when the drumshittery llike that could come into play, you'd have 1 less expedition. Also You can't take more than 2 CAVs and a CL with you.
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>>16302094
>Are you sure someone didn't use your account while you were away?
well that din't occur to me but I have one in my mind and I'll ask that person upon return.
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>>16302086
Guess what did my DA sluts prioritize? I guess this is the right moment to fuck this game and take a long break. RNG went wild.

Update: 15 fucking times.
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>>16302152
I'm so sorry anon. Upgrade your eq, I guess?
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>>16302159
Sure, mate. Four fucking 20.3cm (3) +6. Three MAX 10cm+FD, other guns at least at +4.
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is the iwai bomber an upgrade or a downgrade

i don't have any reppuu kai or whatever
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>>16302166
if you're using anyone like shitgure or shitbuki replace them with kawakaze/bep/kasumi
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>>16302172
Don't upgrade to fighter/bomber until you get more strong fighters. I'd say it's a sidegrade.
>>
How the hell did you guys Finished B41 Newly-Formed "Mikawa Fleet" to the Solomon Region!?
my ship level Yuubari 61, Aoba & kinugasa 55, Kako & Furutaka 65 (Im not leveling them up cause they look so ugly), Choukai 90.
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>>16302166
Hmm, with a Pasta there's no place for upgraded sonars because DD's third slot goes to starshell. Waifu your ships anon.
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>>16302198
Reminder. No seaplane.
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>>16302172
I'd say you have enough fighters to warrant the upgrade. The fighter bomber can be useful if you need a carrier to fighter mule but still want it to attack, also useful for if you want to use a carrier in pvp
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>>16302198
>Im not leveling them up cause they look so ugly
Can't blame no one but yourself, TTK.
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>>16302172
It's a big upgrade, I'd say it's well worth it in your situation. Try to get your Unryuu though and make sure to abuse her quest for +10 Reppuu 601.

>>16302180
It gives you way more options. Iwai fighter is just a Reppuu with average placebo stats. +5 M52(S) is already better, so is max M21(S).
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>>16302217
+5 M21(S) is equal to Iwai fighter. It becomes better only at +6.
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>>16302199
Average DD level is 138.
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>>16302217
Oh wait, he's got 10 Reppuu. I'm fucking blind. Yeah, it's fine to switch at this point.
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>>16302225
Damn, that's a bit higher than mine.
I don't know what to say anymore. Please have a Merry Christmas and hopefully better luck next year.
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>>16301459
Tone is supposed to be shorter. Trash.
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>>16302241
What makes you think so?
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>>16302198
Kako, Furutaka, Kinugasa and Choukai Kai ni look great though.
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>>16302243
bob's official art. She's like 2 heads shorter than Chikuma.
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>>16302246
And ingame art makes her look just a bit shorter than Chikuma.
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>>16302246
>Going off bob
bob sucks
>>
What are you asking Santa Kashima for Christmas this year?
>>
>>16302217
feels bad when you finished the 601 without any stars on it.

granted i finished it when Unryuu literally came out just before, but still hindsights.
>>
>>16302278
To put on some fucking clothes jesus christ.
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>>16302278
Screws and screwing.
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>>16302279
It hurt when we learned about this exploit but after I thought a bit more, I think it isn't that bad. Newfags might have their shiny +13 AA Reppuu (601) but they won't have second Reppuu (601), second Murata etc.
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>>16302278
New weekly or monthly quest that gives screws.
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Cute pout.
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>>16302253
Not as much as the anime.
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>>16302278
Less new sluts, more second remodels.
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>>16302278
W-Well, Kashima kai Ni, I guess.
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>>16302318
>>>/c/
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I love Mucchan.
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>>16302328
desu, senpai. I'm p bored.
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>>16302350
自殺
>>
Holy fuck Yadokari streams a lot of minecraft
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>>16302328
Kancolle on /a/ always gets deleted and /a/ fags just migrated.
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>>16302399
KanColle thread on /a/ just up though.
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>>16302328
I scrapped my ships months ago and have just been hanging around. The threads on /a/ were nice but then the crackdown happened so I came back. /c/ threads are slower than these and no discussion is allowed so that's not happening. Got nowhere to go to talk about cute boats.
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>>16302395
Guess we know where does he take the inspiration for his art now
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>>16302401
It'll get deleted any second. People report as soon as they go up.
>>
how do i unlock the expansion slot quest
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>>16302408
>mods in charge of being competent and consistent

Is directly taunting the mods, uh, a wise decision?
>>
>>16302412
Do the World 1-1 and 1-2 boss S-rank quest first.
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>>16302413
Of course not. But they don't care anymore. They got nothing to lose at this point. Not to mention all the generals like GuP or Muv Luv that continue to be up 24/7 but mods only delete KanColle.
>>
>>16302418

how do i unlock that quest, its not showing
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>>16302413
If you insult them and are objectively right, you'll get one day ban because it's still against the rules. If you simply insult them, you'll get three days ban.
>>
>>16302425
I miss moot.
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>>16302423
You can find it in the quest section; "Once" tab.
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>>16302395
Stream link?
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>>16302435
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv285621948
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>>16302437
This gameplay looks a bit like Quake.
>>
>This thread has been pruned or deleted

Should I laugh now?
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>>16302422
Also Love live thread that bullies Nico never gets deleted.
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>>16302447
You should cry because they're headed this way.
>>
>>16302451
They're already here. The two are more connected than you realize.
>>
Why are Akashi and yuubari so excited for the TBD and SBD?
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>>16302464
They are?
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>>16302464
In the 4koma I mean
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>>16302457
Sending them to /vg/ when?
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>>16302447
laugh while you still can, someday you'll cry because the kancolle thread on /jp/ will be full of secondaries from /a/ and img spammers on in.
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>>16302467
http://ct.webcomic-eb.com/viewer/EB/momoiryout_001/kantaikore_001/0147-0_THe2/html5m.html#page=5
Well that is definitely not Fear or disappointment.
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>>16302471
If anything we're getting moved the /vg/ because this thread actually talks about the game.
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>>16302472
>someday you'll cry because the kancolle thread on /jp/ will be full of secondaries from /a/ and img spammers on in.

But this is already the case during events

>>16302471
Do you not remember the /vg/ spammer
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>>16302479
No, during events it's filled with newfags or people from the wikia or whatever asking "why can't I sortie".
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>>16302477
>because this thread actually talks about the game.
But that's exactly why it's incompatible with /vg/. /vg/ doesn't talk about games.

>>16302479
I do, but how's that related? He wanted the /jp/ threads moved.
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There's nothing wrong with posting an image now and then. It's not like we reach the limit outside of events.
>>
>Posted Suzuya pouting because pouting is cute as fuck
>People flying off the handle now
Guys, chill, it was just an image. When people start spamming Kaga and saying her love is real then freak out.
>>
>People trying to enforce things on /jp/

Listen, the only shit I care about is wikia retards coming in her and sperging the place up.

If you're gonna shit up the thread because you hate /a/ and images just hit the report button instead of flinging your autism.

Go be vocal on irc if you're really this annoyed.
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>>16302501
I wish people knew what spamming means. One image isn't spamming. Those accusations are ridiculous.
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>>16302504
>Go be vocal on irc if you're really this annoyed
They really don't care. Besides, /a/ is technically breaking the rules since those threads turn into "I want to fuck X" or "Y is built for anal." It's the same shit every thread with translations occasionally sprinkled on the shit sandwich.
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>>16302505
because it all start one that "one image".
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>>16302511
>since those threads turn into "I want to fuck X" or "Y is built for anal."
Umm, and?
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>>16302490
>>16302505

People like you would just post any image you deemed cute, then "share" it to other you'd think "need" it.

Anyway, you could unleash your wild fantasies to your heart content to,

>>>/c/
>>>/e/
>>>/b/

Choose wisely.
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>>16302475
Well, Akashi and Yuubari are the resident /k/ommandos in the base, so.
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>>16302513
In English please.

Slippery slope is a shit fallacy that can't be applied to everything.
>>
>>16302511
>since those threads turn into "I want to fuck X" or "Y is built for anal."
This is pretty much what /a/ has been for the past couple of years.
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>>16302511
so is the GUP, Muv Luv and Love Live thread going on /a/ and kancolle/a/ fags thread only gets deleted, you know what happends when both threads merge especially on events.
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>>16302515
Good thing we can also post these images here and some retard having autism has nothing to do with it.
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>>16302521
To be fair, have you seen the quality of the 2hu threads on /jp/ lately? Pretty much just as bad, just with different text.
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>>16302513
English please.

>>16302511
>They really don't care
Then why are the threads getting deleted? I don't give a fuck about what's happening on /a/ but I haven't seen anything here that is detrimentally different since the threads have been deleted on /a/

You guys are literally shitting up these threads because 1 or 2 guys are posting a few images that are related to the seasonal update that we just got.

Just look at this autist >>16302515
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>>16302521
/jp/ as a whole outside of select few threads is just the same, except with shittier English and no punctuation or capitalization.
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>>16302534
no u fag
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>>16302534
Wow, I never thought that there are grammar Nazis like you on /jp/.
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>>16302464
They are mechanics
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What do you suppose will be the next supposedly awesome thing that turns out to be shit?
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>>16302678
Begins with an E.
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>>16302689
Yeah because the other two turned out bad right?
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>>16302708
It's going to be way worse than deserved. Still "good", but nowhere as deserved.
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Is Kumano more pure than Suzuya?
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>>16302718
Maybe if you expect her to be a deathstar like the people that thought Sara was getting 120 planes and shit.
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>>16302736
I kept telling people that was pretty war years with biplanes too.
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>>16299056
Nerfing abyssals is equivalent to a buff for us though.
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>>16302736
>deathstar
Well she definitely should have some of the highest firepower for a carrier.. Maybe Hiryuu or crane tier?
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>>16302278
Please, Santa Kashima, help me find a job.
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>>16299328
You don't have multiple Akizuki-class?
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>>16299056
Mizuhos speed was just a bug, she was slower than any of the BBs so fast speed made no sense.
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>>16302736
No one said that, they said her maximum reserves was 120 before the way when the older planes were smaller.
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>>16302756
Tanaka picks and chooses who gets sats based off accomplishment while others is just how long they lasted to others based on the equipment they had. Its pretty awful to be honest.
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>>16302766
The crown just looks too silly.
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>>16299635
You're as bad as the potato hater.
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>>16302771
I say it's the best way to give shipgirls their stats, the problem is that some end up too weak or downright unusable like Ise and Mogami class CAV version, SSVs, Ryuuhou and auxiliaries.
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>>16302689
>E

Enoki?
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>>16300430
There's no F in AA Director
>>16300447

>>16300799
Wikiwiki's had it long ago.
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>>16302771
Meanwhile, Akatsuki K2 got pity upgrade for getting fucked after illuminating Atlanta. Fat Fuck is rather inconsistent.
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>>16302178
>Kawakaze
>Bep
lol

Bep in particular is worse than both the girls you listed to remove.

>>16302225
>>16302239
Proof that levels don't matter.
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>>16302788
Did the dev already mentioned that, each kanmusu would get their kai Ni? Maybe after that they would eventually become acceptably usable.

Or just simply buff them.
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>>16302178
>replacing shitgure with repainted shitgure
Nice recommendation.
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>>16302810
>>>/3/
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>>16302727
She's probably 10x wilder in bed than Suzuya, have you heard her yasen line?
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>>16302788
>too weak or downright unusable like Ise and Mogami class CAV version, SSVs, Ryuuhou and auxiliaries
I use most of these for the weeklies and monthlies.
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>>16302836
Graf looks like an arrogant munchkin for some reason.
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>>16302689
Event?

I can so totally see the next one have a shit ton of fuckups again.
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Don't tell me I'm getting the new torpedo bulge for ranking.
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>>16302756
I imagine something like Sara with more firepower, evasion, a few more planes and insane luck but less armour and hp. She would be very good but "game-breaking" like some people say and people will still use armored cranes instead.

Oh yeah there's also that yasen attack thing but devs are too dumb to make it work without giving the carrier 200 firepower.
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>>16302689
>>16302708
>>16302718
>>16302736
>>16302756
>>16302865
I don't mean "shit only if you're expecting a game-breaker." I mean objectively shit.
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>>16302869
Just fuck off already
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>>16302836
I want a little Iowa
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What a weird guy
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>>16302869
That's just makes you even more retarded.
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>>16302869
We already have two objectively shit carriers from countries who never bothered with them.
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>>16302879
>305/310
Filthy dupefag.
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>>16302885
But nobody expected Graf or Aquila to be great in the first place.
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>>16302893
Not entirely true, some thought they'd get pity stats and be decent at least so they have some use. I mean it wouldn't be the first time.
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>>16302893

Some people were expecting Aquila to be good because her stats were so bad they'd show pity and make her a CVL instead.
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>>16302893
If Tanaka wants an objectively shit shit carrier then it would Ranger or Wasp. Pretty much every book in the world acknowledges the Yorktown class as good carriers though unarmoured.
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>>16302869
Well not even jets are objectively shit, because they grant you an extra attack phase. Not too effective, but more than not at all.
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>>16302903
And Enterprise got refitted and enhanced so.
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>>16302869
So E for Event.
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>>16302903

Escort Carriers might be objectively shit depending if they're their own thing or CVLs with worse stats.
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did they nerf the triple 25mm droprate after making the (CD) upgradeable or something ? I can't get a single one out of a 100ish attempts. It's maddening.
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You remembered to get something nice for your shipgirls for their presents this year right? By the way Asashio wants to have a public date in front of everyone for hers.
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>>16302945
It was never high to begin with
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>>16302947

How can I get a gift for a ship I don't own?
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>>16302953
By buying more slots, duh.
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>>16302903
Ranger and Wasp carried more planes than every IJN CV in the war, and had a similar plane configuration to Sara.
They would be better than the Dragons and the Uryuus at the least.
It's actually going to be tough to make a "bad" USN CV unless they really gimp them.
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What upgrade bonus do bulges get to warrant its high cost?
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>>16302943
Aren't escort carriers basically army dogs with torpedo bombers?

They could be good if they have some ASW stat and good routing.
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>>16302962
+1 armor. Your ships will take literally no damage.
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>>16302960
They're all gonna have shit evasion except E. Enjoy your crit magnets.
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>>16302968
>evasion
>matter
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>>16302960
Ranger had known structural problems and Wasp had bad armor.
>>16302968
Yorktown evaded the cranes pretty well at coral sea.
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>>16302775
Not even close, she's the only one in her class I will never allow in my fleet. Hatsuyuki is super cute.
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>>16302836
If you're going to typeset then don't do a half-assed job and typeset the side text too not just what's in bubbles. SFX can be ignored however.
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>>16303028
And the reason is because of memes, I take it.
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>>16303033
>SFX can be ignored however.
reeeeeeee
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>>16303034
No, bitch bugged my game and I couldn't choose the cute Den as my starter.
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>>16303036
My years of editing experience have taught me that it's more trouble than it's worth bothering with.
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>>16303037
If that happened to me I'd have just made a new account instead.

Besides it's the DMM site's fault, not hers.
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>>16302836
>parents day scenario with Iowa and Sara
Cute
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>>16303037
I think you're just a retard and skipped through the introduction too fast.
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>>16303048
I did do that and it kept happening so I just gave up. Kasumi is my starter now.
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>>16303037
Den a shit m8
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>>16303057
I hope you step on a lego.
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>>16303052
So how many new accounts did you make?
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>>16302978
>Ranger had known structural problems and Wasp had bad armor.

So, still better than almost half of the CVs in the game because of how the CV meta game works.
Structural problems don't effect the CVs in the game right now, outside of those that caused them to carry less planes in real life. And armor still relies on heavy RNG.
Wasp and Ranger are so similar to Sara that they would still be effective in the long run.
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>>16303061
Like 6. I maintain 2 of them, it's quite fun seeing how far you can get in events with low level ships but with knowledge of an experience player.
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>>16303052
All starters suck anyway, they should've let you choose any of the common DDs you want.
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>>16303064
Did you ever consider getting trying a different proxy back then? Or just getting better Internet.

Because no one else has had this problem so obviously the problem's on your side.
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>>16303060
I've stepped on legos multiple times in my childhood. Legos are nothing the soles of my feet can't handle.
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>>16303070
>Because no one else has had this problem

Obviously because he's full of shit or kept clicking too fast like a retard. But since he's claiming he did it 6 times I'll go with the former.
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>>16303070
I used the free one and the two paid VPNs that I use to play IP banned jp MMOs.
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>>16303085
So the problem lies with your internet.
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>>16303109
No, it's bitch's fault.
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>>16303065
How long until Tanaka has Samidare replaced as a starter?
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>>16303111
I agree, it's Den's fault because you wanted to pick her and so triggered the desire sensor.

Den is a fucking bitch.
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>>16303063
>Wasp and Ranger are so similar to Sara that they would still be effective in the long run.
With slots and fire power likely, but they had much lighter structure and armor.
I'd expect Unryuu tier armor and hp for them.
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>>16303126
Fuck off Fubushitfag.
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>>16303160
As if the guy blaming some 2D character for his shitty Internet is one to talk.
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>>16303129
Unryuus aren't any worse than the other nip CVs in terms of armour.
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>>16302434

still can't find it, what do you have to do to unlock it?
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>get trolled at 1-2 5 times
>reach 1-3 boss first try
I can live with this.
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>>16303192
Abucute
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>>16303192
I want to mess up her hair.
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>>16303237
Kitakami, please.
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>the boss BGM for the hardest event map in history is now relegated to being Orel boss BGM
Why is this allowed?
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>>16303250
Which one? I haven't heard it yet.
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>>16303261
Fall 2013 E-4 I bet
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>>16303266
But that's not the hardest map in the history of the game, IBSfags need to get their heads out of their ass.
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>>16303278
Why, because if it came back today it'd be a pushover? Even then things like the final node being a 50/50 shot at reaching a dead end and the wonky night to day mechanics would give modern players a headache. But there's no map that was harder to pass at the time it was added. Just look at the clear rates of current events.
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>>16303291
>at the time
Yeah, at the time. That means it's not the hardest in the history of the game, but in 2013.
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>>16303291
>let's look at the current events instead of some of those in beteeen
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>>16303291
it's all relative senpai. Back then the game wasn't as well researched as it is now, and the lack of current ships/equips made it comparably hard as it is to current H tier maps now.


not to mention the map gained notoriety because of the suicide squadron bullshit more than anything; the difficulty was just a part of it.
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>>16303291
>Just look at the clear rates of current events.

You do realize difficulty selection is a thing now, yes? Everyone that is too shit to clear an event now just drops to kuso mode, in IBS everyone was forced to do the same shit.
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>>16303315
The devs also never give us full hard mode clear rates so for all we know that's still below 10%.
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>>16303192
>sticking a finger in her own nose
gross
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>>16303365
She's just holding her hand in front of her face. You need fucking LASIK surgery.
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http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10648849
5-5 3 subs route, with air sup edition.
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>>16301035
CZ75
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Keking at the octopus
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>>16303433
Wikia's naming methods are utter shit.
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>>16303433
Speaking of that item anyone knows what it eats for improvement? I have to know if I gotta start farming large bulges.
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Yamakaze?
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>>16303448
Large bulges.
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>>16303435

AA Fire Control Director
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>>16303461
Too long. Just call it Director
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>>16303192
did anyone think she was annoying before her Kai ni?
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>>16303466
Nobody knew she existed
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>>16303466
She was a "literally who?" character
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>>16303469
>>16303474
She was the most popular CL in these threads in the first year.
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>>16303435
This, but that's to be expected with their retarded editors.
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>>16303477
Piggyback riding KTKM isn't a good measure
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>>16302857
She's always like that in this guy's works. At times funny, other times she's unlikable.
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>>16302569
I'm no longer a grammar nazi but I definitely prefer how this thread and /a/ look compared to typical posts on /jp/. I admit however /jp/'s almost nip-tier English has its charm.

>>16302815
Bep has 71 armor, you know.

>>16303291
>But there's no map that was harder to pass at the time it was added.
But since then we had a dozen of harder maps. People just sucked at this game back then.
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newbie here and is there really an update on 26th? what for?
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https://cdn.awwni.me/v2qm.jpg
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>>16303428
Why air support?
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>>16303507
She only has 57 armor.
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>>16303509
Probably to remove the X-mas CGs
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>>16303515
Craft two medium bulges.
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>>16303516
>remove the X-mas CGs
well that was fast, I din't have that much time savor the X-mas sprite of Suzuya.
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>>16303507
>/jp/'s almost nip-tier English has its charm
It gets in the way of actual discussion. Sometimes I want to facepalm when I see it in these threads.
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>>16303525
I suppose that's what the library is for
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>>16303521
The fuck you putting 2 bulges on her instead of LoS for? And not everyone's going to give her an Akashi slot.
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>>16302907
But it's totally useless against anything other than the weakest DDs.
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Why does Kadokawa make shit games like the Vita and Arcade instead of just improving the base game?
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>>16303549
>Arcade
>shit
Too jew for the browser game I guess.
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>>16303549
Base game could learn some things from either though. And god do I want the arcade's live2d or how is that thing called.
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>>16303549
They didn't make the arcade game, they licensed it off to Sega and they chose to go the safe route with just making a 3D version of the web browser game.

I agree, its meh at best but you can't blame them. The vita game however, yeah it seemed like it had a bumpy development history and it shows--pure shit right there.
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>>16301901
Did you perchance try sparkling all your ships? I always do Bm7 with sparkled ships.
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>>16303525
They have to add new year's already.
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>>16303549
>Kadokawa
>arcade
That was Sega.
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Will we ever see her again?
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>>16303509
Anna Kai ni
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>>16303571
No and thank god, she's garbage. Bring back AA Hime.
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>>16303576
*Aoba

Fucking auto-correct
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>>16303555
Wasn't it the Vita that had Live2D? Either way imagine having Live2D in the browser game
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>>16303549
Proper fucking SRPG when
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>>16303587
A dating sim would be better.
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>>16303558
No, but first few attempts were with fully sparkled fleet because morale accumulated naturally over time. I didn't have problems because I lacked firepower or durability, all this shit was a result of your typical RNG faggotry:
>double attacks always focused on destroyers
>gold CLT comp + hankousen
>terrible targeting during night battle
>damage accumulation resulting in taihas on night battle node

I completed this quest 5 minutes ago with an unsparkled fleet. Apparently RNG seed was more favorable.
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>>16303585
Live2D looks weird as fuck most of the time.
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My wife and daughter.
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>>16303557
With Vita having live2D models you can stare at the screen with whats going on and enjoy the process. Thats a thing the browser version lacks while instead feeding you 3-7 second supplie/expedition/sortie/result etc. screen shifts that get on your nerve within the first 2 hours of the game. Not like the live2D won't become same'y over time, but atleast there's some motion to it that keeps it more alive than just voicelines.
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>>16303603
Lolicon.
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>>16303605
I agree, though the Live2D could use some work, its really off from what I've seen of the vita game. Their are fan made versions that even look better.
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>>16303588
>there will never be a boatslut game with persona style gameplay where you run around the naval base and hit up boats during school hours to max social links and then command the same boats in actual turn based battle mode and none of that automatic RNG garbage

>>16303605
>Live2D

I was excited too until I saw Ashigara's idle animation.
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>>16303627
A boatslut game with actual porn even neverer.
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>>16303588
>>16303627
May Tanakas magnum opus be an attempt at the most complex VN/Dating Sim ever produced.
At least one route for every boat featured in the browser game, including abyssals.
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What do boat artists think about the existence of porn of their boats? Except Jiji, of course.
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>>16303656

Hahahah, not even Samidarefags are this delusional
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>>16303663
Man, I only suggested it. I haven't been coming here every day for the past three years screaming about it.

It's fucking christmas soon, don't shit on people like that. Shame on you.
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>>16303641
But why, it's not like boat porn is hard to find on the internet.

I'd rather get a game with shallow boat-admiral interaction (with or without porn), but also with the ability to pick targets in battle. That would be like a tenfold improvement in gameplay.
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>>16303662
Just check their pixiv bookmarks, I know Shibafu and Yoshinori liked some of it.
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>>16303662
I'm sure he was shocked.
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>>16303695

Minesweepers when?
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>RTAs will now have to decide between putting damecons or bulges on ships
Accidental sinking will be on the rise again.
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>>16303736
>damecons or bulges
>hard decision
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>>16303736
>using damecons at all
You deserve to have girls sink.
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>>16303736
One option means they almost never have to retreat and the other adds some armor, what do you think think they'll choose?
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>>16303532
Anon... If you use normal CA, you don't need any LoS eq on DDs. If you use Pasta CA, you take Kasumi with T32. Other DDs are free to take whatever they want.

>>16303526
Here, yes, but in other threads it's sometimes cute.
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>>16303806
>Warspit
>having tits that large
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>>16303555
>>16303585
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>>16303807
What CA you pick barely matters in terms of LoS.
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>>16303819
Do you not want a smug Ryuujou or something?
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>>16303895
>smug
She looks like a greedy chink.
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>>16303900
I'd still prefer screwed up live2D than wait for Shibafus next masterpiece.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R60HnwTkOvQ&list=PL_1KRMi6SAPlNq3tyecHTnfRggvCfPiAL&index=1
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>>16303858
You don't understand. Pasta CAs "have" less LoS because you use them for seaplane fighters which have awful LoS.
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>>16303895
You only see that if you take a screenshot mid facial change.
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>>16303925
I use 2 seirans. They usually lose ranks but it's still enough for AS and sometimes they even kill a destroyer on the first node.
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>>16303895
looks more like image related.
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>>16303925
I don't, I use a Seiran and T32.
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>>16303925
Not him, but I give my Pola double Seiran.

Pros:
- decent LoS
- sometimes kills a DD
- allows double attack on both day battle nodes
Cons:
- sometimes kills a DD, usually doesn't do anything
- expect one slot to be wiped out on the boss node
Counter-cons:
- Seiran is piss easy to retrain
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>>16303736
They'll stuff everyone with max CD most of the time.
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>>16303924
Oreo a shit.
>>
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Saratoga/Gallery#comm-515822
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>>16303958
>>16303972
I'm glad someone else uses this setup, I felt quite alone few months ago.

>>16303967
One Seiran is too risky, high chance of no DA at boss node. Two Seirans however are fine and they give more LoS at the cost of lower DA rate at first node.
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>>16303985
Well I actually switch between double Seiran or a radar, I have upgraded ones so they actually give more LoS and I can mess with DD loadouts more. I agree double Seiran is probably more consistent though.
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>not doing BM7 without AS
I'm surrounded by plebs I swear. I bet you niggers also don't use a bobsquad+CLT for clears.
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>>16304025
>bobsquad+CLT
>a fucking CLT
A turbopleb calling other people plebs, how funny.
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>>16304025
>bobsquad+CLTs
>implying you have right to call a composition with non-bob ships bobsquad
>using CLTs on 2-5
Says the pleb.

Bm7 is a great niche for Zara. She's especially nice here considering she naturally has long range meaning she attacks before Ooyodo. Not using her there is being contrarian for the sake of it.
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>>16304055
I've been using Rei-Gou+Haguro since before Zara came along, there's no reason to stop now.
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>>16304079
How did you use 2 CAs on Bm7?
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>>16304025
I don't even use bobsquad for the bobsquad quest.
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When is Aoba k2 coming out?
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>>16304164
Next year.
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>>16304164
Never
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>>16304164
No one ever said it was going to be this year.
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>>16304164
i hope never ever
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>>16304164
Tomorrow.
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She's behind her deadline and needs reference material now
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>>16304164

After Zara Kai Due.
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I love this semen demon.
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>>16304335
Getting reference material at this point is already too late.
She should be drawing by now.
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>>16304390
You know, I just noticed her hand is touching her head and doesn't just vanish starting from the gun.
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>>16304427
Disgusting, but still better than anything Shibafu pukes out these days.
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>>16304427
No, not you too.
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>>16304390
Congratulations anon! Take good care of her.
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This is so good.
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what happened to him?
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>>16304498
Kongous lost their popularity.
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Bitch finally realized that NTR is wrong.
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>>16304476
71.5% proportional AA and 57 fixed AA assuming she's alone in the fleet.
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I ranked 2 times this year and both times i got a piece of shit shiun and basically more useless crap like daihatsu. Am I just selecting the wrong months to rank or am I just fucking unlucky?
>inb4 rank every month
No
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>>16304763
I need one more daihatsu for my expeditions anon
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>>16304763
I want a Shiun or two. The sex torpedo and T4 Sonar were better rewards though, I'm glad I ranked that month.
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>>16304763

Stop whining and get into 5-4 already. Doing 20 runs a day and all your EO isn't that difficult.
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>>16304771
Only if you ignore weeklies.
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>>16304771
I still haven't cleared 6-4 yet
I'll rank next month I guess
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High class sluts.
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>>16304775
>60k
The best!
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>>16304476
>+6 luck

Truly the cutest and best duck.
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>>16304775
Duck butt is a luxurity
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As retarded as /jp/ can be, at least it's not this retarded.
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>>16304763
I'm hoping for something good this month like jets or at least another NE engine too compliment last month keiun reward
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>>16304782
Indeed. I love her so much. Always such a good performance, be it AA, tanking hits, sinking subs or shooting things to death. She's even my first event reward! Teruzuki and Hatsuzuki are wonderful girls too, if Hatsuzuki's yukata art was implemented I might have married her as well.
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What slots were safe in AS+? 18 and smaller?
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>>16304826
tsu doesn't care about as
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>>16304842
Fighters don't care about Tsu.
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>>16304775
>that Zui censorship
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>>16304763
>16inch
>15.2cm kai
>proto 46cm
>Ro.44
>Bofors
>sex torpedo
>2 Reppuu Kai
>Keiun
>still no Shiun
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It's lonely as fuck to spend Christmas alone with the shipgirls.
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>>16304859
>>2 Reppuu Kai
Fuck you.
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>>16304876
At least you're not spending it with real girls.
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>>16304876
But Suzuya is here!
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>>16304903
Gross.
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>>16304876
Merry Christmas, anon.

Don't be lonely. Call your parents, if possible. If not, consider visiting a church, comfy people tend to gather there.
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>>16298861
WE
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>>16304879
It's not as good as it sounds, I only use them at 6-5 for land bases.
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>>16304903
Why is it that none of the artists remember that her dress has shoulder straps?
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Whatever you do don't let Arashi and Makigumo see them.
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>>16304984
I will force them to see them then.
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>>16304984
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>>16304984
They wouldn't care.
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>Devs didn't implement AA guns in the p2w slot when it was necessary to have during Fall event.
>to make it worse, they're going to spam more Wo Kai to piss you off to "balance" the game
Hmm.. really makes you think.
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>>16305027

>necessary

You still haven't seen anything that makes then "neccesary" yet.
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>>16305042
You mean 6 Wo Kai in air node?
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>>16304976
Because strapless is sexy
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>>16305027
I like how people think this is any more pay2win than it was before, back when it was a dedicated slot for single use cash shop items that made a major difference. I doubt it'll be any more necessary to buy than rings were back when everyone first declared the game pay2win.
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>>16304976
To make her out to be more of a whore.
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>>16304976
They're hard to see and she looks better like that anyway.
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>>16305059
This. Goddess Fairies are the true P2W, bulge and AA guns being added changes nothing besides giving Maya way more flexibility. Before that I rarely used it because repair fairies are very limited outside of the cash shop, so it was empty the majority of the time.
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>>16305059
Before it was a slot for cash shop items you get plenty of for free.

Now you can put extra equipment in it to boost the defensive and offensive capabilities of your shipgirls.

Next will be radars/sonars and then secondary guns and then main guns below a certain calibre and then all main guns.
Of course they won't give away hole punches for free anymore. It'll be a fifth slot for those who pay for it.
>>
>>16305081

>changes nothing

It gives a fuckton more options to a bunch of ships that before, due to their number of slots, couldn't have an optimal setup, Maya being the prime example.

Not to mention that now having all your ships with AA guns raise your plane shot down count dramatically.
>>
>>16305059
>+9 armor for all BBs and CVs changes nothing
>50% chance to wipe slots changes nothing
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>>16305131
Meant for >>16305081
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>>16305145
You can see the moment Fujikawa took over the fairy designs.
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>>16305160
Kon?
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>>16305160
Old equips are pretty funny, looking back.
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what's the hottest 4-5 comp? Is anyone using Teste?
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>>16305179
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>>16305179
Teste doesn't do shit at the boss because tanks don't work.
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>>16305185
>BB flagship
No.
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>>16305203
Have you tried it?
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>>16305145
Fairy is the best thing in Kancolle desu
>>
>>16305185
Is replacing Shoukaku with Sara even worth it?
>>
>>16305203
Is that so? I haven't touched 4-5 in such a long time that I've forgotten which equips work against her.
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>>16305205
It's shipfu flagship.
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>>16305223
It doesn't even make a difference, I cleared it in 6 runs and I usually take between 5-8 each month. Before cranes Kai 2 I was using Kaga and Hiryuu. I was just using Sara because I was leveling her up.
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>>16305171
Drew just did not give enough shits. Fujikawa's equipment work is so detailed and accurate, having it at such a low resolution is a crime.
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>>16305244
If Nintendo/IS ever made another Advance Wars game, I honestly would kill for Fujikawa to draw up all the sprites.
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>>16305244
wait, I thought it was drew who redid the equipments and fairies. Any source confirming Fujikawa replacing the former?
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How can one girl be so perfect?
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>>16305207
Yeah.

Double scratch, with WG she could actually damage the boss.
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>>16305325
Because she's a cutie.

>>16305349
That's a shame.
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>>16305349
Thank you.
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>>16305325
You should love Yamakaze.
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>>16305302
Vita credits only mentions Fujikawa as the utility workers designer or whatever they were called and those equipment and fairy redraws are without a doubt by Fujikawa.
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>>16305380
>Loving an emo basketcase
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>>16305380
Why would anyone love Yamashit?
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>>16305453
Interesting, so someone has to go back to 6-5 and see its true power.
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>>16305473
6-5 boss is CV Hime.
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>>16305471
>>16305469
Stop being hipsters /jp/.
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>>16305380
Nah
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>>16305495
>Not liking what you like=being hipsters
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spoonfeed me 6-4 guide ez no retreat shit thanks i'm lazy
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>>16305509
Read the wiki.
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>>16305509
Its called wiki and there was already someone who reposted his comp above.
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>>16305471
Because red eyes and black hair combo makes her good looking.
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I made Saratoga even more American.
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>>16305532
I'm not talking about the cutest BB Yamashiri, I'm talking about green Shitgure.
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>>16305535
>Admiral Paru
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>>16305541
But you said Yamashit and she's Yamashit.
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>>16305541
Not sure if falseflagging.
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>>16305541
but green Shigure is the best Shigure
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>>16305559
Not even close.
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>>16303603
>My wife and her daughter.
fixed
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>>16303807
>>16303925
If all your recon planes are upgraded to max maybe. But I don't see how not using pasta CA and losing air power can increase your chances of making it past the first node. Especially since you're sacrificing that for buffing armour on ONE of six ships.

Besides if people can put Akizuki-class in the fleet, they can use pasta CA without fighter power.
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>>16305089
We're going to get a repeatable quest for hole punchers soon :^)
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>>16305585

>Have Two Medals and scrap 3 Combat Rations
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>>16305591
>Combat Rations
He better not, its not good to waste food like that.
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>>16305473
https://my.mixtape.moe/hhfqis.webm
Tried 2x OTO + Tank + Daihatsu T86 on 6-4.

She didn't even double attack at night, I'll try and see if she fails again.
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>>16305616
If you're getting that tank animation maybe it's not possible? Try tank + wg42 if you fail next.
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New blood here: >>16305628
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>>16305624
Yeah, it's not suppose to be the tank animation at all. Maybe having tank/T89 overrides double attack to prevent nuke tier double attacks.
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>>16305632
>New furniture
Dropped.
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>>16305541
>Yamashitro
>cute
no
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