Rhythm Games Thread

http://www.bemanistyle.com/2016/10/19/beatmania-iidx-24-sinobuz-new-information-and-details/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKut_Yop_OE

All the new Sinobuz info for those curious

What features are you most excited to try out?

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2nd for Rasis IV

Is it true that Chile has a pendual cab on a custom server?
More places should have n-1 on arcades

>>15992524

>you will never earn and wear a Kaiden hat

Just shut it all down now.

I wonder what was in that drink...

>>15992658
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aojiru

>sinobuz
>DUDES lmao
>no GOLI thighs
burn it all down

>>15992524
wish I could understand any of this :T

>>15992793
kinda my thoughts too

I hope next year they release another girly style with qt girls and lots of happy hardcore

those are my favorites

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Am I crazy, or is the normal gauge in arcade IIDX more forgiving than in LR2? I got to play on a cab for the first time ever this weekend, and I ended up clearing a ton of songs that I was having trouble with on my home setup, which is just LR2 and a USKOC. I can't figure out if the LR2 gauge is actually harder or if it's just because my controller kinda sucks.

so i really got into reflec beat, but i have no money to spend on songs. is there an ipa file i could get with all the latest songs somewhere? (other than sows)

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>>15992942
>other than sows

>>15992933
Your controller sucks.

>>15992933
I tried LR2 and the gauge does seem a lot harder than iidx

>>15992982
>>15992987
I guess I'll find out when I can finally get AC data

Definitely can't afford an ASC till after I graduate though...

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since Sinobuz is going to start next week, what is your favorite song that came out of copula?

dynamite is a pretty good one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVECIUYrGA

>>15993014
Starlight Dancehall

>>15992933

That was my first impression when I switched to AC data as well.

>>15992890

I want this really badly too, a candy theme or something, the last thing we've had close to it was empress and that was almost 10 years ago

I feel like either my hands tense up way too much, or I have really shitty hand positions, since I can't play iidx for too long before my turntable hand's wrist starts getting this sharp tingly sensation. Anybody else have this problem?

For people who are using a USKOC, what adapter are you using? I need one that isn't shit so I can put off buying an ASC

>>15993092
Candy theme would be awesome

I just really like cute things more than most other things

>>15993109
Are you wrist scratching? If so stop that

Regardless you should always stretch before playing. CTS is scary stuff and you don't want it.

>>15993092
Yes please, candy and lollipops and general pastel colors with desserts everywhere

Sugar overdose is one of my favorite themes for anything ever

>>15993120
I mainly use my pinky for scratches.

Any kind of exercises you'd suggest?

I have issues with awkward hand positions and tensing up a lot due to my OCD, so I'm not sure how much of the tingling is stemming from that;

I also get this sharp tingling sometimes when I stretch my arms while holding normal game controllers, although I think that might be because I usually compress my arms near my chest while playing.

>>15993138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiRC80FJbHU

>>15993171
Thanks, this seems pretty helpful

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>>15993171

My man getting more sweet tunes in IIDX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKut_Yop_OE&feature=youtu.be&t=3445

So I have a USKOC that I'd like to use with LR2/ACData, are there any reliable or low latency PS2->USB converter boards or should I just go whole hog and get an arcin/usbemani and mod the thing

>>15993723
I'm using the Joybox 5, works fine, maybe a slight bit laggy but if you have AC data you can adjust offset and it'll be a ok

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>>15993651
your photoshop skills disappoint me, anon.

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my first aaa!!

fUCK timing is hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7kq8kOyqUE

DJ Yoshitaka is watching you play. Better not to disappoint him.

>>15994020
Great job, anon!

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Reminder

>>15994290
this

>>15994020
Well done man. If it's anything like how I feel, it's like a huge weight is off your shoulders now.

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>>15993790
*paint skills

>>15993723
seconding joyboxes

>>15994020
hmm where have i seen this image before...

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>>15994290

I tried.

It seems like only yesterday that we were all sitting here waiting for Pendual to drop.
Time really flies when IIDX is relentlessly fucking you in the ass.

Yes, you could say IIDX is quite #The_Relentless when it comes to fucking you in the ass

>>15994020
nice! tfw 8dan now and havn't got even one AAA

What is the deal with this Sinobuz?

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am i completely retarded or is LR2 really intimidating to set up

i have the lr2hd torrent and the bms of fighters 2013 pack, all the songs are in .zip format, does the game use them like that? do i need this GLAssist thing i keep reading about? what about HF pApploc.exe? when should i run that? what does it do? where do i put the songs? how is this harder than setting up ac data?

>>15995003
Game uses songs in folder format, not .zip. You'll have to unzip them, I think. Thankfully most modern zipping programs can unzip many files at a time.
Glassist is needed only for the BMS songs, I think.
Never used HF pApploc.
The songs can be in any directory. FOr example, you can have the songs in a folder in your LR2 folder called songs. Then you add it through LR2's setup.
All the information about setup, including adding songs, (except perhaps glassist) can be found here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lunaticrave2/wiki/index

>>15995136
i think the papploc thing is for changing the locale?

>>15995142
Don't use any applocale programs.

Just change the locale of your entire system, it's much easier.

Besides, everything stays in English, so it's not really an issue.

>>15995142
Can't you, just, you know, change the locale?

>>15995003
Also, you say you have the LR2hd torrent, does it include LR2 or just the hd executables?

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>>15995145
>>15995147
this is what it says it's supposed to do, it was recommended in the torrent description

>>15995178
the one from sows it should be relatively complete, there's LR2.exe, LR2HD.exe and some other stuff

and then like how exactly do i extract these folders (the bms) it looks like they're organized into smaller folders with a few songs each (song folders are the ones containing shitloads of keysounds right?) is it ok to have them in the folders with a few songs each (submission teams I think? for the BOF events) or should I somehow get the songs all into one folder

Is there a difference between the super joybox 3 pro and the super joybox 5 pro for USKOC on LR2 and AC data?

>>15995747
one has a 3 and the other has a 5

>>15995830
So they both work equally well with the USKOC?

>>15995868
i was shitposting but you put up with it so nicely that i googled them both

looks like they work exactly the same but the joybox 5 has four controller ports vs just one

so if you plan on playing like

emulated thrill kill on your pc then go for the 5 but otherwise you don't need it

IIDX crossover when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrXTaMP56fQ

>>15992524
I need to look more at this site, also:

>HuΣeR

HueBR? kek.

>>15992890
>21 Spada
Edgy

>22 Pendual
Cute

>23 Copula
Cute

>24 SINOBUZ
Edgy

>25 ?
Probably cute too.

>>15993014
On the FM I think.

>>15994977
Check yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKut_Yop_OE

>>15993014
>Dynamite

Good Taste

>>15995868
>>15995880
yeah they should both work

I have the 5 because I use it for playing stepmania with friends too, and I have two playstation pads

>>15996153
Copula's pretty aesthetically neutral tbqh

I'd call it more "sleek" than cutesy

it's called iidx naruto

new iidx better have in game currency called sinobux

>>15996308
too bad it's just bux now

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>>15996253
I meant the art.

>>15996607
Wish I could get 1000bux IRL from a silver tran medal

The PCB replacement finally came in! I want to believe it took so long because they wrote "Aistin, Texas" on the address.

I'll update tonight if and/or when I get it working.

>>15996273
I think you mean IIDX Cinnabutts.

>>15996887
Both are better names than Sinobuz

>>15994971

how can you be 8dan and be so bad at timing
i've gotten AAA on 10s and i still can't pass it
im fucking mad

also WHy does 4chan keep saying this is spam

>>15996695

But there's cute art even in Spada, pendual and copula aren't "cute" in their aesthetic presentation.

>>15996887
Cinnabon

Shittobutts

Shinobi

>>15997058
>Shinobi
I'll probably end up referring to it as this verbally. That or shinobu.

>>15996940

Why don't you kill yourself so, sir.

It'd be easier to time if the notes had anything to do with the music, but they don't.

Which technically makes the game not a rhythm game. Just glorified wack-a-mole. Mash buttons while listening to music.

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About fucking time

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>>15997306
>It'd be easier to time if the notes had anything to do with the music, but they don't.

>>15997312

What's that top graph supposed to mean?

>>15997354
New difficulty scale and showing what the old levels are in comparison to the new ones.

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>>15997312
thank fucking god

>>15997366

Thank fucking god.

15s could easily be 3 or 4 separate levels.

I wonder if any of the 30something 15s I've cleared will be 18s.

>>15997312

Does this mean there will be difficulty overlap at 14s, 16s, and 18s? What is that dotted line supposed to be?

>>15997409

are you retarded it just means they're separating the current difficulties (top line) into the new difficulties (bottom line) that they're connected to

>>15997457

You clearly aren't getting what I'm saying. Don't even know why I asked a question I already knew the answer to. That chart is very clear.

Just wasting bandwidth at this point.

>>15997312
I don't even play sdvx and this news makes me happy

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>>15997312
>SDVX gets a new rating system before Jubeat and fucking IIDX

>>15997588

We're close. We're close to a unified 20 scale across all Bemani games. I can feel it.

>tfw new play levels will be

16s IIDX
17s SDVX
17s Pop'n
18s DDR (peak)
~13/14s DM
Never played Jubeat, but fuck it, 19s Jubeat.

Now I just need to get my hands on MUSECA.

>>15997588
>jubeat

Who cares?

Just kidding I like the game. They really need a better rating for it since any song that isnt braindead easy is labeled 10 and many 10s are still easy anyway

>>15997588
sdvx is even more broken than iidx

at least iidx feels like a meaningful progression through numbers and gets hard fast

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>>15997306

alright alright calm down just take it already

>>15997663
Please go back to your containment board

>>15997712

You clearly don't even like rhythm games, why are you even here?

Oh wait, I know exactly which anon you are, it's you that needs to go back to the containment board.

>>15997626
I really want this. This will give people who do not play the other games a sense of how difficult a certain chart may be even with zero exposure. A person who plays 19s on IIDX would understand how fucking nuts 19s are on DDR even if they've never touched the game (no matter how unlikely that may be).

>>15997718
Actually I'm a new poster to this thread. I saw your cancerous post and told you to get out of my board.

This is absolutely adorable
This guy has a channel where he uploads videos of him playing IIDX at the arcade, but he frequently uses modifiers like 5 key and autoscratch, and in this video he even failed a song and still uploaded it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5LAiXcsnpU

>>15997917

Aww. I want to unironically say something positive but I don't know much beyond "Good job" or "nice play" or "good luck".

Also don't know how to not make it seem sarcastic.

So, DOA DAO, guy, if you're around, I'm starting to think that fucking Nip screwed us. By which I mean, instead of using his regular shipping methods, he used some bargain basement 6-8 business weeks type shit.

This is your first order from him, shipping from China as I do recall you bought your FP7 from the storehouse.

However, I've ordered from him several times and even from China I'd have had my shit long ago.

If this is true, it makes him a cheap piece of shit. I'll think long and hard before giving him my business in the future.

>>15997626
A unified 20 scale wouldn't really work for stuff like Jubeat, but it'd be nice to see overall so that we can easily understand the differences between games.

>>15996848
im excited for you!

>>15997312
It's better, but it could still be improved. 15s should cover at least 1 or 2 more levels. Depends on the person obviously, but everything below 10 is still throwaway that most people get past in a week tops.

>>15997957
>>15997917
i always feel sad seeing people who are stuck on lower levels(before the game gets 'hard') of rhythm games. i like to help and see people improve but stuff like this just makes me a little sad but i hope they still enjoy their time with the game.

>>15997312
>>15998078
Levels 1-10 could honestly be compressed down to 1-7 at least, but the reason why they keep it expanded like that is to hook new players into the game.

If you start playing the game and after a month (with an "evenly" distributed difficulty scale) you're still stuck on level 5/20, you'd get discouraged.

With the current system you can probably get to level 10 within a month as a brand new player and the sense of ranking up/getting better keeps you interested in the game.

You'll note that this is also true of most other games that have skill rankings or levels - lower levels/rankings in RPGs or online FPS games or whatever tend to be easy to blaze through and higher ones take much more grinding once you're already heavily invested into the game.

>>15998041

Wew, I am legit mentally deficient. Didn't see he already got it.

Though I worry that there aren't updates by now. That replacement shouldn't have taken this long.

I fear something went wrong and he fell into crushing despair and did himself in.

So I've only been playing DDR for roughly a year now, so I'm curious about a it of its history. How big was the shitstorm when Valkyrie Dimension's Challenge chart came out as the first 19? I can only imagine every player freaking the fuck out about how much of a jump it is from an 18 to a 19.

>>15998108
it really wasn't that drastic we had several 18s for years before that, equally gimmicky

>>15998121
That's surprising actually. I'm able to pass most of the 18's with fairly decent scores (except for IX, fuck that song) and the first time I tried a 19 I shit the bed hard. Like, it is fucking nuts to me how much stupid is in all the songs.

>>15998121
>Dead End Groove radar special

>>15997627
Yeah. Try comparing far east nightbird with air raid.

>>15997312
>You can print out your results via the generator
Might be cool

>>15997378
Someone said there will be 80 level 18s, 15 level 19s and a 20. (The 20 is probably Lachryma GRV)

This means some of the easier old 16s are in the same tier as the hardest old 15s.

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>>15997312
>You can now buy a track and play it in game

About time indeed.

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>>15998102
Oh, I went to a concert right after it came in. I just got back and figured everything out and set it up. It works perfectly now.

>>15998372
Nice!

>>15998446
It feels fucking great. I actually like the default pressure (though I can see how they might eventually stick). So much better than my JKOC.

>>15998372

Nice tv

>>15998521
Thanks. I've had it as long as I can remember but now it only gets used for Bemani games.

>>15997312
Now it makes sense why they've been releasing so many songs with two 15 charts

>>15998108
"ITG" footshufflers cried because they couldn't footshuffle.
Casuals were creaming themselves despite not being able to even touch it.
Actually good players thought it's not PFCable (it probably is for the best players nowadays, would just require a shitton of practice and grinding) and therefore didn't take it seriously.
Pump players have been dealing with such charts since 2006. Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI_WYBqvFcQ

>>15998776
itg players also can't do crossovers to save their lives and get so buttmad when you bring it up

>>15998830

Not going to get mad. Simply going to inform you that you are dreadfully wrong.

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>>15999059
>playing a game for ostriches in 2016

>>15999091

Fuck you. I don't want to ruin another thread shitting Konami's adorable attempt at playing catchup.

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>>15999117
>Fuck you. I don't want to ruin another thread spewing my autistic opinions from 10 years ago because I am literally Kyle Ward IRL

>>15999123

I can't begin to comprehend the psychosis involved with blindly defending games made by a horrible company who's executives wake up in the morning thinking of new and creative ways to hate you.

Konami would kill your whole family for a single yen. Yet you shit on ITG and its creators because the players went a stupid direction with custom songs after the game was wrongly sued into oblivion by Konami.

I can't understand it. It's like a mutated blend between Beaten Wife and Stockholm syndrome.

You have my sincerest pitty.

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>It's another DDR vs ITG episode

>>15997588
IIDX has had two difficulty revisions.

>>15999182
More than 2 actually

The very first IIDX versions had 1-5
It then changed to 1-7
then 1-7+
then 1-8
then 1-8+
And finally the 1-12 we still have today.

>>15999179

Sorry, Honkers. I'll stop.

>>15999160
is this pasta

>>15999299
that's our resident pasta machine actually

just ask him about ddr a (he hasn't played it but he'll tell you how much it sucks)

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>mfw pop'n cabs showed up in Bangkok and I'm halfway across the world from it

>>15999322
them*

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>>15998189
>Daiuchuu stage GRV is a 18

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>>15999322
>mfw no new pop'n cabs in america other than tokyo attack and maybe some other private collections and we'll probably never get any on official e-amuse

>>15999523

>Black or White an 18

Song's piss easy. One of the first 10 15s I cleared.

>>15999523
>Daiuchuu stage GRV at the same level of Black or White?
>Can clear Black or White? without too much effort
>Still lose at EXH Daiuchuu stage 95% of the time

>>15999942
Daiuchuu EXH should be a 20.

>>15999975

>mfw I would have AAA'd Daichuu Stage the first time I played it but I fucked up the lasers.

>>15998372
I'm happy for you DOA DAO.

>it's cold hand season again
time to quit playing rhythm games and get rusty
please kill me

>>15998192
No more unlock bullshit?

>>16000507
Probably still there

>tfw got rekt by Neo Gravity EXH but I sightread cleared End to End

Holy shit, Chunithm air looks really hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4H8sNXlW2A

>>16000582
Is there a video of someone actually playing this? I can't imagine what it's supposed to look like being played.

>>16000607
10s on google:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQVyALSMehg

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i found the guy from the last thread

>>16000649

Looks like he didn't stop. Took his autism storm to random IIDX videos on Youtube. Sad, really.

>>15999160
>wrongly sued
It was a literal ripoff. They deserved to be sued.

>>16000480
I'll take cold hands over sweaty hands anytime.

Jesus fucking Christ when is Copula going up on sows

Tfw never got an AAA

>>15997312
>plus ranks
autism
t
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s
m

>>16000943
DDR A has plus and minus ranks though

>>16000848
In like 3 or 4 weeks.

>>16000831
And Activision had already kept them from bringing Guitar Freaks over because Activision had a US guitar controller patent first.

Do you need resistors for (600p/r) encoders hooked up to an arduino?

>>16001219
And Activision killed Scratch.

>>16000273
I've already passed another (old) 6 since getting it working. I think I'm gonna be able to improve a lot more now, though a lot of that has to do with my pattern recognition constantly improving but my fingers (and the DAO keys compared to the JKOC) are feeling a lot more responsive than they used to.
/blog

>>16001232
That's kinda fucked.

>>16000649
Nah, I would never use bait that stale. Osu can get sub 1 frame timing but the pepstapo would never allow it on Ranked.

>>16001241
A moment of silence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn809akm8LU

>>16000878

just go play like a 2 or 3 or something

>>16001266
At least that art direction never made it onto the market.

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>You don't like SDVX?

IF THE RECORD BREAKS, DON'T TRY TO FIX IT.

I'm curious now, what's the problem with osu and timing? I thought the only problem with it was the score system.

>>15998086
why should it make you sad? everyone starts somewhere.

I started playing 2 months ago and I'm just starting to clear 7s now. It's not sad; it's exciting even though making progress is a lot of work :D

>>16001472
The timing is left to the map maker.
This is bad, because then you have practically no chance of learning good timing; depending on the song, you might get all 300s or shit-all. It also encourages the map makers to hike up the difficulty by changing the difficulty to super tight, or to make the difficulty lower by making the timing super lenient. Either way, I think it brings an unnecessary variable to the game.
But then again, you could say that any timing besides 1 ms windows is TOTALLY NOT HARD CORE AND PROOF OF SHIT GAME!!!1! like that osufag before.

>>15998086
Try being one of those guys. It really sucks.

>>16001552
Same. I gave his video a like.
He really shouldn't have failed that song unless it was a sightread at his skill level.

>>16001550
It's only 13ms. Quit being a baby.

>>15992607
can confirm, shitty as fuck and filled with neckbeards tho, fuck that place

>>16001530
i just meanpeople stunted on the lower levels.new players are cool!

>>16000831

DDR was not legally supposed to even exist in the US. Konami had no jurisdiction to enforce their patent.

>>16001631

It's 16ms i think

>>15999160

>pitty

>>15999539

Thank that girl whose creepy dad (who probably is reading this thread) forced her to become a rhythm games player and posted pictures of PW machines on twitter and told japanese people who asked where it was, where it was

>>16001631

I bet you can't even clear gambol another.

So I just got done playing a set of some Pendual, and at the end, I saw some wacky cut scene with my customized Q-pro character. There was an alter type thing, some rumbling, and some dialog I couldn't really read.

I've never seen this shit before, and I have played countless sessions.

What the fuck happened and why?

>>16002631

That's been happening since before tricoro, where have you been?

>>16002631
your psun op changed the event most likely

>>16002644

I'm telling you I've never seen it before and have been playing data for 6 months.

>>16002667

What do you mean? Could there have been a minimum something or other I just hit?

>>16002708
the -operator- who you got your pcbid from

they can change the post-game events so they probably did

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>>15999305

>>16002713

Oh. Neat. So I take it you can just set it to nothing.

Hope I don't have to sit through that every time though.

Kind of a weird question but can someone make a vid of a kshoot track for me? Curious what the extra track in pulsevar.KSM april fools pack is like but I don't have a computer on me with windows on it. It's in the 5h folder.
https://mega.nz/#!9dsyBSwL!ba8Nrh5ZSoWtePSxkNEW09hYuWLUu4xj4sIUjHDovlY

Just remember, if you're ever feeling down, you're better than Darude at IIDX.

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So, the LR2 download link in the main site is down

does anybody have a working mirror?

>>16004077
use web archive

>>16004112
That worked. Thanks a lot, anon.

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Grace is sad

I wonder how she'll look like in SDVX IV

Don't tell sows this, but Cindy truly disgusts me. Her awkward character design, her abhorrent animated movements, the way she grossly falls over when she loses.

I doubt I'll ever play a song featuring that vile beast ever again.

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Can anybody give me a hand with GLAssist?

I'm trying to create a custom folder, but the newest version UI is different from the one in the LR2's reddit tutorial. Where the fuck is the button I'm supposed to press here?

https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/pb_3NMAXZsrK3B30Ntm8H-pAntqSbP1v-fQdFp0BG1g.png

>>16005091
banned

>>16005091
I'm telling

>sinobuz has 7 bgms
my dick

>>16005436
One for each day!

>tfw more than half the daily bonuses are useless because lolnopaseli

whats the name/chart of that pump it up song that's 100% freeze arrows and you can play it by sitting on the pads

>>16005503
Pumptris

>>16005546
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtIfpfxHfqw

How does this even work? Does the game only recognize if the key's held down instead of pressed at the correct time? What other songs can be passed this way?

>>16005569
>Does the game only recognize if the key's held down instead of pressed at the correct time?

Yes.

>>16005569
Yeah, in PIU you just have to keep your foot on the pad for hold notes, and you can even press on a hold note in the middle of it in case you missed it (though that means each tick you aren't pressing a hold note on counts as a miss).

>>16005569

There's one song on Exceed 2 where the whole song has a middle freeze so you can just sit down and do the rest with your hands.

Forget the name though.

Question to DDR/ITG players:

Have you guys noticed that your ability in the arcade improves if you play StepMania before you play out on some pads? When I went today I played for about 30 minutes before actually going to my local arcade and I was having a way easier time reading and passing songs than normal. Thoughts?

>>16005593
playing stepmania/watching videos of charts does help with reading and timing, yes

especially if you're trying to play something like EGOISM 440 or Pluto or Fascination ELM

>>16005593
I think that's called a warm up.

>>16002857
Ahhhh I just went back and watched the stream and it makes me so happy that IIDX is getting public attention in the west

>>16000613
Holy shit.

>>16005623

What stream?

>>16005630
you mean you actually missed Darude playing IIDX?

4chan won't let me link the vod from Twitch but go to Superplay's channel and watch yesterday's video

>>16005623
The problem is: Konami doesn't want to cash with his attention. ;_;

>>16000582
Hitsounds were a mistake

>>16004925
But anon she will not be in sdvx 4

wew did chunithm air rip off beatstream's interface?

>>16005787
saved my money desu

>>16005747
Why does Konami put in literally zero effort to bring Bemani games to the West? The whole series is even completely absent from Konami's English website. It's so sad.

>>16005800
Arcades are dead in the west and people will just call them guitar hero ripoffs
Westerners who wanted to play it already knew how to

>>16005800
Konami still thinks their games are too hard for howaito piggu.

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>>16005805
i was at a con with an sdvx cab and someone called it weeaboo guitar hero

at the same event someone walked up to beatmania the final and said "it's like a shitty guitar hero ripoff"

>>16005630
>>16005671
They're doing crazy edition/bms stuff in about 90 minutes if you want to catch it

Welp just ordered myself a super joybox 3 off of ebay; hoping I can get it working with my USKOC on LR2/AC data

>>16005915
I was thinking of doing something like that as well. I'm hoping any input lag can be mitigated by simply tuning the timing delay on LR2.

>>16005920

I've been getting differing opinions on it: earlier in this thread people were saying AC data timing could be adjusted to compensate, but over on sows people are saying that while you can adjust lr2 timing for a reasonable experience, it doesn't work so well with ac data.

The adapter was $10, so hey if this lets me avoid buying a dao to play ac data (when I get ahold of it), fantastic! If not, hey at least I can use it with BMS.

>>16005800
Because nips don't know how to market in the west. Like people already said that nobody know that Konami "invented" the rhythm games genre but they could still make a fanbase if they want (bringing INFINITAS to Steam and putting more music would be a great move for example) but, well, it's not like there is a exchange of information about business opportunities between western and eastern developers (that's why it's almost impossible a game made by a small company there make success here and vice versa).

Anyway, there's simply not a incentive $ for them to invest here. At least you guys are lucky for having Round 1.

>>16005805

I agree there's no point in localizing games, there's no money to be made from it, rhythm games are extremely niche.

And besides, i'm sure if they did bring more games to the west people [already in the community] wouldn't like it. Sure you'd like to think you would embrace it, but people are contrarian elitist fucks. How many times do you see people complaining "look at these fucking normies hogging my DDRA machine being stupid" instead of "hey more people can be introduced to cool rhythm games now!"

>>16006086
My dude I'd much rather have to deal with normies occasionally than to not have a single IIDX cab within 400 miles of me

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>>16005927

the issue isnt delay but consistency. you can easily fine tune delay to accomodate but the issue with the adapters is often that it doesnt delay the exact same way with every input. but yeah its trivial to adjust timing in lr2 and ac data

What is the most fun Max song and why is it MAX.(period)?

>>16006441
ew

>>16005859
Well that was cancerous.

>>16006441
it's legend of max but thanks for trying

>>16006474
this desu

>>16006441
If it existed it would be Fascination MAXX long

>>16006441
It's MAX 300 super max me remix, though.

Ben Fischbien

>>16006441
Actually it's Max don't have sex with your ex desu senpai

>>16006474
>>16006484
>>16006487
>not Maxx Unlimited
Plebs, all of you.

>>16006441

Max Burning

What are some songs around the 6-7 range that'll help me not suck at scratching

>>16006568
for reference I can barely clear this because of the scratches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iZDlBtzQFo

>>16006441
you mean Max Forever
:^)

>>16006568
Naughty Girl @ Queen's Palace
Black by X-Crossfade
Red by Full Metal Jacket
Watch Out Pt.2
Shakunetsu Beach Side Bunny
Shakunetsu Pt.2 Long Train Running
Checking You Out

>>16006581
thanks

hope most of those are Happy Sky and onwards because I'm still on LR2 and can't get earlier charts than that :/

>>16006587
i think every single one of them is, except Checking You Out which is 4th style

>>16005589

Dance Vibrations S14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGkIoNymlc

>>16005817

beatmania 3 the final is the best beatmania ever made!

>>16006786
it's really good i wish it were more widely available i only get to play it once in a while

>>16006530
This gentleman understands.

>>16006441

DeltaMAX is best max, though.

>>16006587
>>16006594
>tfw you only have styles 8 and earlier

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I cleared my first 7 last weekend and today I cleared about four more 7s!!! I feel like something's finally clicking for me :D

>>16007293
wait you wanna trade because I literally can't get pre-Happy Sky BMS files anywhere

no one's even seeding them on sows so I'm SOL

>>16007301

>wanting all those shit charts

>>16007352
I just want variety fampai

plus playing older 6s and 7s is usually more challenging in a good way

how to use the lanecover in LR2? nothing happens when i hold start and use turntable

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>>16007659
nevermind i figured it out

it sucks that lr2 doesn't consider a full combo with any poors to be a full combo, maybe i like to freestyle a bit

i am this anon
>>15995003
i finally got it working by directing it to a folder with different songs, i think it was crashing on startup because some of the song names were garbled

Who are some good DP players to follow these days?

>>16007501
Try burning heat [a]

Great song, tough for a 7 if you're not used to 12ths

>>16007301
I'm talking CS. I could care less about BMS unless I'm playing original BMS songs.

>>16007814
So you want to trade?

http://dl.free.fr/AF40Mw/BMShare?F=658636

jdownloader.org

You're welcome.

>>16007688
what the fuck is wrong with lr2s hard gauge? it drains nearly instantly, faster than iidx ex hard

is there something wrong with the bmses of these old bm 5k charts im playing?

>>16008103
There's a BM1Final batch which I acquired that has all songs start to get off sync because they weren't adjusted for fractional BPM values, which BMS doesn't support.

>>16008125
i don't really notice that though, the timing feels okay, i was more asking about the gauge

i literally missed like 5 notes on hard gauge and failed instantly

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1pt9FmxUI

wtf

>>16008250
I know, right? That BT-B looks really fucked.

So nobody here really plays the BMS of Fighters stuff? Or at least talks about it?

Out of what little I can play I think my overall feeling is that there general quality is better than years past; but at the same time, there's no songs which either really floored me or made me want to kill myself.

>>16008130
Yeah, the sim programs I've used don't really handle Hard gauge well at all. If I remember right, and it's been years since I've tried it so don't quote me on it, there might be something about how LR2 handles 5key stuff or charts with fewer notes in terms of gauge loss and recovery too.

By the way, I hope that BMShare link posted earlier ends up in the sticky. I had to do some unsavory legwork to dig it up, I'd rather not have to do that again.

>>16008506
*the general quality, was my intended writing.

another wr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWqCePn5KeM
other one's more impressive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ_nGcUXIRo

>>16008103
I've literally been saying that lr2's gauges are just harder in general

>>16009868
It's not good to talk into your monitor.

>>16010077
as in like I made that post up there >>15992933 and I've been complaining to IRL bemani friends too

some of us have friends anon

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>It's yet another "play SDVX or go fuck yourself" *insert bemani game* update episode
I'm so sick of how much they shill this fucking game.

>>16010410

Yeah the amount of people saying how much they love sdvx is really explains the recent shit quality of threads

>>16010410
>>16010932
sdvx isn't that good

>>16010932
>>16010941
I blame brain power.

>>16010990
I blame the whole game.

>>16011002
I blame (You)

2 more days boyz!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzK16JIH1t0

>>16011002
I blame IIDX not having fun music (only a dozen/game).

>>16011094
I blame SDVX not having good music (mostly indie shit like touhou and vocaloid)

>>16011103
there is literally nothing wrong with indie shit

>>16011121
Of course not, unless its actually shit. In this case it is (mostly).

>>16011103
But aside from 2hu and vld ALL sdvx music are good.

It's like you don't like BlackY.

>>16011121
>STARLiGHT Album Launch Ryu Remix Contest
>nothing wrong

i blame konmai for not having quality control on WHO gets to submit 2hu songs to sdvx desu
2hu music sound like shit when remixed into edm (what doesn't really?) and heavier genres and sdvx is largely about these so the whole thing is doomed to fail from the start

>>16011085
i always wanted to play TSAR BOMBA in 2diks

>>16007888
Maybe. ;^)

>>16011437
I thought I'd like 2hu eurobeat but I hate the stuff I downloaded during freeleach.

>original 2hu stuff from the games are actually catchy and fun
>they insist in makin and using shitty remixes

I,don't get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRw-W8CHpL8

>>16011474
>original bemani songs are catchy and fun
>they keep insisting on making shitty remix contests

Yep.

>>16011504
>>16011474
I agree with both.

>>16005589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ozJKYZ3Z6s

>>16011474

people like you are why bemani music got bad

SDVX was a mistake.

>>16011504
The kors k remix had lots of good stuff.

i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7_EyFY47rw

>>16011202
That setsugekka remix is fun though

Where do I even find kshoot mania skins? All I can find are the SDVX skins that don't work on 1.5, or skins that are locked behind a facebook group.

In other words, does anyone have kshoot mania 1.5 or skins that work in 1.6?

>>16011867
> All I can find are the SDVX skins that don't work on 1.5,
I meant don't work on 1.6, and I can't find any downloads of 1.5 anywhere

>>16011878
ksm 1.5 is in a torrent on sows

>>16011892
Do you happen to have an invite for sows?

So I'm watching videos of people just pressing the keys on IIDX controllers because I love how they sound so much

and I'm realizing I might actually be autistic

what do I do now

>>16011827
Why?

>>16011899
Have you tried listening to good pop'n players press the buttons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxr1QUVfPRA

>>16011908
this is extremely enjoyable thank you

>>16005589
Only white people do that.

So when does the difference between Honeywells and Omrons become really important? I'm on high 7s/low 8s right now and want to know if I can put off buying Omrons.

Bought Empress for $125 today. Did I make a mistake?

>>16012032
The main difference is the feel and the lifetime of the switches. The honeywells are light and rated for way fewer presses before they start to fall apart. They didn't even last me a year.

I personally like heavier switches with lighter springs, but it varies from person to person.

>>16012056
unless you are a completionist collector, yes

>>16012064
I am so I guess it's okay. I'm kinda obsessive with that shit and considering getting into 5key Beatmania when I finish IIDX.

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>>16012056
>not just getting ESR and freemcboot and downloading an ISO

>>16012059
>The main difference is the feel and the lifetime of the switches. The honeywells are light and rated for way fewer presses before they start to fall apart. They didn't even last me a year.
I see. I just got my FP7 a week ago so I guess I can put off buying omrons for a while.

>>16012071
>when I finish IIDX
I've been playing for over 10 years and I haven't finished FCing all 10s, AAAing all 11s, AA HCing all 12s.

>>16012089
Oh, I didn't mean that. I meant collecting. I'll always be cycling through all the Bemani games with IIDX being the main.

>>16012077
But collecting...

>152~153 BPM

why

>>16011754

This was the one I was thinking of. The other one demonstrates my point but this is it.

All I could remember from the song was "Saturday night"

>>16012007

>being racist

>>>/pol/

>AC unlock systems

Why is this shit allowed? It serves literally no purpose.

The people who this is "compelling" to play the game were already slaves to it long ago. They were going to waste the same amount of money on the game regardless.

And not a single person has casually played a round or two of any of these games then stuck to it forever because a certain song (that they wouldn't even be aware of in the first place) takes 30,000 hours of gameplay to unlock.

>>16012528
That song debuted in the Prex3 or The Premiere 3 can't remember, back then no one had an freaking idea how to pass this song without help, people started using chairs but most arcade places won't allow you to do it, I remember when I first saw someone do it the arcade owner freaked out, those were the times when if an arrow panel broke you had to deal with it because is not going to be replaced in months.

>>16012603
this has been bugging me for a while

what the FUCK is a Prex

>>16012608
Premiere + Extra

>>16012603

Wait, are you talking about Join the Party or that 5 freeze arrow song?

I can't imagine anyone not being able to figure out how to do it. Right foot on Middle and Down-Right, left foot on Down-Left, crouch down and hold Up-Left and Up-Right with your hands.

Hold that position for 2 minutes and there you go.

Join the Party though, just take off one shoe and use the lower friction on your sock to swivel around as necessary.

>>16012648
Older arcades had really harsh judges and tight timings especially the Extra with Stage Break On and you have 90% of the people who try this song failing, it wasn't until the Exceed 2 when the game became relative easy to play, also back then Combo didn't really added to the final score like it does now.

You can try the Extra's tight timing by selecting the "XJ" judgment in Fiesta2/Prime arcades, really hard almost impossible to get an all perfect game, those tight timing won't work on modern version the songs are just way to hard not to mention monitor delay 9ms to displayu at best and Vsync another 16ms at 60FPS.

So the modded headphone jack for IIDX got removed because management threw a shitfit according to one of the kaidens back in Bangkok.

Sound business decision again.

>>16012908
if it makes you feel any better, it's still probably on-par with the american experience at round 1s. we don't have iidx headphone jacks and if parts are broken you can expect to wait months for a fix, if it ever comes

>>16012914

>if it makes you feel any better, everywhere is shit, there's not a good place or thing on earth

That'll cheer him up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl4KAHU530Y
This leaves only Paranoia Hades, DEGRS, IX and OTP ESP as 18s that haven't been PFCd yet.

>>16013056

Must suck to be Japanese. You invent all these wacky things that are hard as fuck and then "filthy gaijin" come in and take away the crown of being the best at them.

At least they'll always have their extremely autistic IIDX.

>>16013119
To be fair Chris and other western players suck at prolonged crossover streams and would have a lot of trouble PFCing charts like Mei, Pluto Relinquish or Possession unlike the best asian players like Brosoni and Fefemz.

>>16013142
nothing personal anon but i'm screencapping this for when chris inevitably pfcs one of those songs

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iidx is the worst

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>>16013153
iidx is the best actually

>>16013155
But where is Osu?

>>16013186
far below Reflec, next to Super Crazy Guitar Maniac Deluxe and Dancing With The Stars

>>16013189
but where does parappa the rapper fall into this

>>16013415
approximately between ddr solo and drummania

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Why are old DDR mixes filled with so many legitimately awful charts? I'm talking garbage like Paranoia KCET, Paranoia MAX, La Senorita Virtual and this piece of shit. At least with the original Paranoia and Trip Machine you can dodge the bullshit with some clever ghost steps, but here you have to either spin around like a retard or doublestep the shit out of everything. Artificial difficulty at its finest.

>>16011867
Download the latest version of K-Shoot, it doesn't block converts or skins anymore. Also just send a request to join the fb group, you should get accepted.

>>16013472

Nothing wrong with double stepping if you can do it accurately. Why do people treat it like it's cheating?

>>16013472
they're not awful you're just fucking garbage and can't handle double stepping lmao

here's an idea: keep those charts at the same note density but lay out all the patterns so there's no double stepping or crossovers, they're now laughably easy and can be done in your sleep

>>16012570
sup osu dude

>>16013119
Except we beat then in IIDX for a long time, too. If we had more arcades, there'd be more people playing bms and carrying that to the game.

>>16013560
It's not cheating, it's bullshit when the chart forces you to doublestep on its top speed.
>>16013565
I'm perfectly fine with crossovers, laterals, and even halfspins (I had a blast with Brilliant 2U Orchestra Groove CSP until the crap ending). But full spins are way over the line when the chart's rethoric forces them on you. I'm a low level player who doesn't venture past old 8 / new 12 and can't stream faster than 400 steps per minute, hitting me with doublesteps this fast is terrible difficulty balancing.

>>16013611
>I'm a low level player who doesn't venture past old 8 / new 12
how

like

when did you start playing

that's unfathomable even the worst players i know can clear 14s

>>16013619
Five months ago. I'm playing nobar on dirt cheap home setup with custom stepmania theme and maximum lifebar difficulty (four misses from full HP = out).

>>16013653
>maximum lifebar difficulty (four misses from full HP = out)
that's retarded, why?

and if you're playing without a bar double stepping is a bit harder, but you're probably also doing something wrong. you gotta lower your center of gravity to play no bar, and keep your feet relatively flat so you don't lose balance.

>>16013603

How the fuck is what I said anything like the nonsensical points the Osu dude made?

AC unlock systems are shit. I'm paying god damn money, you should present unto me the whole game in its entirety.

>>16013415
Top of the list by itself. THE most hardcore rhythm game.

>>16013657
>that's retarded, why?
Because missing steps at all is retarded, period. I usually restart a chart if I get any, unless I'm playing the hardest 8s which I'd never be able to FC nobar anyway.
Merely having the bar would probably let me do 13s at this point, but everything in my house is either too short, too tall or too unstable to use as one. I'd rather save money for an actual good hard pad setup. The best I can do right now is leaning against a wardrobe to the side, which is how I stabilize myself on fast jacks.
As a minor piece of detail why I suck so bad, I was wheelchair bound for most of my life and stepmania is my first regular physical exercise. As embarrassing at it is to say, it actually took me a few days just to pass my first new scale 5.

>>16013661
hey back off buddy make your own list

parappa is gr8 though it just has limited replay value

if parappa was a longstanding series with hundreds of songs it would be one of my most played

>>16013697
>Because missing steps at all is retarded, period
nah holding yourself to a standard of perfection when you can't even play at a basic level yet is retarded, get good and pass a 15 or something before you start seriously striving for FCs

i'm sorry to hear about the wheelchair thing that is a pretty damn good excuse

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>>16013658
t.entitled gaijin

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/10/16/games-unlock-every-level-right-away

>>16013697
>restarting
Thanks for proving my point.
Almost all double steps can be avoided by starting with the right foot or footswitching, unless they're the song's main gimmick. It doesn't matter how fast the chart is if they're all like this >>16013565
Sounds like you just don't like foot games.

>>16013745
what a garbage fucking article, people like this are killing videogames

>>16013733
No need to be sorry, I'm mostly healthy now and Stepmania helps me get to passable levels of fitness.
I for one don't understand the mentality of these threads where you're supposed to just rush difficulty levels without caring about quality of your passes. Getting misses at all means you failed to fit within the set rethortic and will most likely botch harder charts even more. Grinding the easier stuff until you're very consistent at FCing them has a lot of merit by pushing your consistent speed and stamina little by little.
Plus misses look just plain ugly on result screen. I'd rather 800k FC than 900k with 1 miss.

>>16013603
>Except we beat then in IIDX for a long time, too.
When was this ever true.

>>16013611
>hitting me with doublesteps this fast is terrible difficulty balancing
I've encountered players like you. They have bad technique and can't manage which foot they place their weight on. What speed mods and scroll rate do you use. If it's anything like the other people I've seen complain about this, your speed mods are already so high that you never learned to read and plan your movements properly.

Or maybe your lack of balance is related to the whole wheelchair thing.