Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1753

私は実はゲイではない

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Nippon ichi.

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>>67851724
I pray the day will come when we are freed from the grasp of shitty mods and return to our homeland.

loving how fast these threads die now

This isn't right.

Make it stop

If I report this thread for being off topic, do you think the mods might understand that these threads need to be brought home?

this is ruined soon

I give you an advice: you don't reply to Japs

>>>/a/150161736
This is the result of your idiocy. The more you spam /a/, the stronger the anti-DJT sentiment on MY board (which is clearly not YOUR board) becomes.

Maybe moving to /int/ wasn't so bad after all, because now it's easier than ever to identify the problem.

>>67851976
I would never even come to this shithole board if it weren't for the mods. I don't want to be here. No one wants to be here.

>>67851960
I've seen Korean/Mandarin learning thread a few times here. Mods are likely to ignore the report.

>>67851976
read the global rules. you arent entitled to have some shitty recuring thread on any board. last thing int needs is an another fucking general thread so please do fuck off of this platform altogether.

>>67852068
Are you a 4chan moderator?

finished katakana and hiragana after a few days; is this a considerable achievement or does it dwarf in comparison with whats to come?

>>67852120
It's important, but much, much easier than any other part of this language.

>>67852138
>much, much
;_;

Whatever problem /a/ is having that warranted this would probably be solved by the /qa/ /a/nons and /a/ mods fucking off to reddit *cough*
Literally up until they pulled this shit I actively defended the current iteration of /a/ as "still better than '08-'09!" Nope. 11/22/16, the day /a/ hit a new low.

>>67852176
>*action*

@67852132
Shut the fuck up and stop acting like a retard. If DJT was the only reason you came to /a/, you can start a Japanese thread on /r9k/ or /v/ or whichever shithole you crawled out of to blog about your Anki progress.

Wow, they really kicked these over to /int/? Can't really see these threads taking off here...

Anyway, my reading is getting pretty good, barely need to use the text hooker, but I still suck at listening and rely on subtitles a lot when watching anime. This happen to anyone else?

>>67852171

hey if it makes you feel any better most people don't even past hiragana in my experience. Anytime someone asks me how to learn japanese I tell them to learn hiragana and they never ever get past it. So good for you anon :)

>>67852120
It's like learning the alphabet.

sudacas and other weeb trash out

>>67852092
im an user like anyone else and general threads are an eyesore that dont belong on 4chan and they should had been percecuted the moment they started to surface, period. now every retard can go "its part of the board culture because we have been engaging in this dubious and questionable habit for years so it should remain untouched!" I hate you.

>>67852005
>I've seen Korean/Mandarin learning thread a few times here
Maybe because /int/ is supposed to be about language learning?
Those are the threads that should be on this board and not these dogshit generals

>>67852248
>@67852132
This is some next level shit, son.

>>67852264
In a way, it's less than the alphabet since it's lacking the kanji.

>>67852355
>im an user like anyone else
Yes, it was a rhetorical question. Notice how the mods are deleting posts here but leaving the thread up.

>>67852355
I used to browse the old DJT on /a/ when I first started learning Japanese a while back, it was pretty useful for learning how to go about learning the language, and the importance of reading native material, etc.

But that's pretty much the only use it had. Once you start to improve at the language you don't really feel the need to browse it anymore and I suspect that's what most people do.

All it was was just a bunch of nerds posting their Anki graphs to brag about getting 98% and showing off all their mature cards.

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Thought I'd share this here while I'm at it.
https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_BFCM_1a1?node=8885530011
Amazon is offering $10 off $25+ for books with free shipping, using promo code "HOLIDAYBOOK". If you need something to top you off, look up "Dover Thrift Editions" for some cheap filler books.

I just used it to buy a dictionary. (I also had a $5 gift card).

>subs say 混沌
>character says 翻弄
助けろ

>>67852355
Your spelling is what's atrocious.
What kind of threads do you like? Please describe them for me.

>>67852430
I wonder what would happen if we tried to make our thread on /a/ but stayed on topic. The one that just went up than down only had posts about this drama before it was gone; the op and my post at the last second not included.

Why does the guide suggest that learning the radicals early on is lazy? Seems like rushing to increase your kanji vocabulary is (relatively) lazy if anything.

>>67852257
no because I watched cartoons all the time for listening practice

>>67852527
Could you quote that part of the guide; I'm too lazy to look it up.

I don't think I can comment on that though because I went through RTK and I can't undue that to know what it's like to brute force vocab. 残念

>>67852465
what are the pro's of a physical dictionary vs an online one?

>>67852711
when the binding starts to fall apart you know youve done your due diligence

>>67852711
If you have a blackout and your phone is flat you can read it under candle-light.

>>67851724
いいぞ

>>67852711
Pretty great for book fetishists. Nice and heavy.
Think he should have gotten the real kodansha dictionary instead of the learner's one though, that one's 2000+ pages.

>>67852781
I was just going to say the exact same thing minus the phone is flat part.
Also 古い本はいい匂いがする or something.

>>67852711
• Being able to flip through it physically.
• You can search for things you have no idea how to type (although drawing the character sometimes works in some programs).
• Depending on your online source, definitions from physical ones are usually more accurate.
• Not reliant on a power source or an internet connection
• Don't have to minimize screen if looking up a character from a game

>>67852874
>drawing the character sometimes works in some programs
It actually works 100% of the time in google translate of all programs, given you know stroke order.
Stroke order's not that tough to pick up though.

>>67852874
>• Being able to flip through it physically.
Ok
>• You can search for things you have no idea how to type (although drawing the character sometimes works in some programs).
I think you need to learn how to search using operators and phrases. Digital has the upper hand with this aspect.
>• Depending on your online source, definitions from physical ones are usually more accurate.
Seriously? I have a hard time believing that this could be true. Are you just comparing it to sites like the wwwjdic and jisho.org?
>• Not reliant on a power source or an internet connection
Huge plus for paper.
>• Don't have to minimize screen if looking up a character from a game
You could always have another computer or tablet.

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I cannot make out the shit on the left at all, and going by radicals isn't helping me. Anyone have any ideas, or good resources for helping me learn to make out shorthand/shitty handwriting?

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>>67852942
Dude you don't even need to know the stroke order for google translate.

>>67852957
It looks like こんな半端な時期に

>>67852957
こんな半端な時期に

try this.

>>67852804
>real kodansha dictionary instead
You're probably right. But I don't want to spend too much money right now until I get further along. Plus, the full one's a hardcover brick.

>>67852996
>>67852996

I just stuck 半端 in my deck a few days ago, I knew it looked familiar. Thank you.

>>67852995
>>67853040
meant to reply to you too.

>>>/a/150162787

>>67853014
Hardcover bricks are nice though. Depending on your method of shelving they can pull double duty as valuable bookends.

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>>67852970
With more complex stuff it lets you get away with drawing ugly shit easier.
People complain about it not working for them occasionally so you've got to specify that stroke order plays into it.

>>67853014
Is the learner's one not hardcover?
I really don't like big books that are paperback. I bought a copy of infinite jest paperback and that thing looks like shit now.
I guess dictionaries take less damage than novels through regular use though.

>>67853118
>>67853136
ネトウヨ降臨ktkrwwwwwwwww
どうする気か(笑)

>>>/qa/852978
This is just sad. I'm reporting posts, the mod is doing his job, and you're using that as an excuse to shitpost about DJT.

>>67853152
It's paperback. I honestly prefer paperback because for the literal flexiblity. They just feel more comfortable, meaning that I'm more likely to use it. The big trade off is that they obviously wear down easily.

What the hell, did they really tell us to fuck off to int?
Didn't browse /djt/ for 2 days, please tell me that's a joke.

>>67853461
More like kicked us off
We haven't actually been **told** anything on the matter yet

>>67853461
I feel like there is only a small minority against /djt/ on /a/ and once they get bored we should be able to go back. If we were to try right now they would just instigate shit that would encourage off topic posting.

>>67853481
Fucking mods, looking forward to flag related shitposting while we are on /int/.
>>67853540
I'm not optimistic to be honest, shit just gets worse on 4chan lately, nothing changes for the better.

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>>67853481
>More like kicked us off
Given the widest margins of any general yet you still decided to bite the hand which feeds.
You were overstaying guests who threw the お茶漬け in the face of your hosts.

>>67853767
Hot damn, I knew it was the same guy this whole time.
You can hide in /qa/ and in innocent /a/ threads
>>>/qa/848711
>>>/a/150162787
but you can't hide on /int/.

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Everything went to shit when you faggots started waifu wars with the OP. If we stuck with picture related we'd still be in /a/.

>>67853829
at least talk about japanese instead of trying to start another weird and kind of dated argument

>>67853767
>>67853829
You know, it's a little hard to samefag with the flags and all.

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>>67853829
I don't know, personally I liked this one better. Maybe we should have made it the official OP. Who's with me?

So how do you lads read your manga?

Laptop? Desktop? Paper? eBook reader? Tablet?

I just found an old kindle I had and am going through the rigors of tagging and converting a bunch of stuff I want to read to the viable format.

>>67853856
>>67853862
Different people. I'm just venting as I'm still annoyed about this.

The other Australian is just being a cunt.

>>67853829
>>67853868
As long as the OP image says DJT in it I couldn't give less of a fuck.

>>67853875
why are you annoyed about it
anyway my post was skillfully crafted to account for you being a different person because the sentiment applies regardless of who you are

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>another day on /int/
>another day without comfy japanese learning method discussion

>>67853869
I read on my laptop when I'm not moving and my phone when I am

Manga on a phone is kind of painful but image scan LNs work fine. Hate dealing with ebook formats.
As a sort of pyrrhic bonus, relying on the dictionary has given me a lot of typing practice with the swipe keyboard.

>>67853869
I have a tablet, but it is only 7" which I think is too small for comfortable reading. I usually read on the desktop, but I hate having to zoom in and scroll. I'm probably getting a monitor arm for Christmas so I can just turn my monitor sideways when I read manga. That seems like a perfect solution.

>>67853767
Fuck off sakura, that shitposting in February was all you.

>>67853869
Laptop usually, I have some on my phone but reading on a 5" screen sucks.

>>67853869
Desktop usually.
I've read some on my phone while traveling but it's not great because of how small it is.
A tablet would be nice.

おはようおにいちゃん

いっしょにしゅくだいしよ

>>67854372
おねえちゃんでしょ

>>67854372
体育の宿題ならいいぜ

>>67854372
ひとりでしなさい

たぬき...

>>67854869
きつね…

>>67854919
ねぎ…

>>67854979
ぎっちょ

>>67854979
ぎりのいもうと…

>>67855055
貯金

>>67855057
と金

>>67855057
とうとうきがついてしまったのね

あたしとおにいちゃんの

ちがつながっていないことに

>>67855127
>ん
ひ-酷い...

>>67855159
いぬ

>>67855223
ぬいぐるみ

psst
>>>/a/150165562

>>67855232
みずぎ

>>67855127
>ん
ブッブー

>>67855245
Stop.

>>67855247
義務

>>67855267
むりやり

>>67855380
輪姦

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>>67855380
リムジン

>>67853065
Whoa, what? I thought DJT said to never do free translations.

>>67855608
DJT says a lot of things.

>>67855608
When did Trump say that?

>>67855608
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. Need to appeal to the people first before breaking the illusion.

t. career politican

>>67855608
>mod senpai notice me!

why don't we move to sheekyforums/a/

>>67855298
Is this some doujinshi?

うわぁ~早朝に起きるのは面倒くさい。もう冬眠したい。

What is the difference between にしては&としては?

>>67856687
idk why don't you teach me mr 日の丸

flags were a mistake

>>67856687
http://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/basic.html#%E3%8A%A6%20%E3%81%A8%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6%E3%81%AF

夏目友人帳

2・3・4とあんまりよくなかったのに

伍章はとってもよさそう

なぜか2章でコケたみなみけを思い出す

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大変に曇った天気で元気を出すのは無理

しかも, どこでも霧がある

邪悪
jerk?

jerku

Saw this in the latest /a/ meta-drama thread.
>>>/a/150167082

Bizarre.

>>67857933
Jah.wa.ku

I welcome our new weeb neighbours to /int/.

>>67858073
i dont hear much わ but ill try it like that

jeiyaku na mon da

>>67858010
>Would you keep hosting this shit for the sake of a few BRs on /int/?

this made me kek, are BRs suddenly not allowed to learn jap?

>>67858010
He's right you know. The /int/ move has made it more obvious than ever that there's a ton of trash in DJT.

>>67858010
有名人になったじゃないか

>>67858222
I wonder
if /int/ didn't have flags, would there still be half as much of a shitstorm as is going on right now?

>>67858222
The migration to /int/ has revealed that there's a significant number of BR posters here, and one of them spammed /a/ after we were moved here. In other words, DJT = /luso/ and Brazilian flag = spammer.
>>67858242
I didn't say anything about being right or wrong, see the first reply. If he's telling the truth, I appreciate his numerous contributions, and I agree that crossboarders are an undeniable issue.
>>67858276
いわゆるCoR君だな

I'm actually curious. Have there been any native /int/ posters that started learning Japanese when they saw these threads here?

>tfw the move to /int/ has just made me feel hateful of DJT because of all the BRs
I'm sorry, but I hate you guys, I'm sure you understand.

>>67858882
Sure.

>>67858878
in three days?

>>67858882
australians are worse than BRs
t. american

>>67858878
It's been a little over two days now, I'm sure we'll start seeing "just finished learning kana, where next?" posts very soon.
>>67858882
Sure, I hate the spammer too. Not like your flag is any better, though.

>>67858907
>>67858931
>>67858944
Much like I'm free to hate you, you're free to hate me. And through that we find some kind of fucked up unity.

>>67858878
Considering 日本語スレ has been around for several years now, it's not at all likely.

>>67858968
Or we could hate on shitposters instead of giving in to /int/ banter.

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>>67858931
>im worse quality than BRs
>im just a DVD

>>67858878
I would imagine they would have been in the japanese thread already.

>>67858944
>Sure, I hate the spammer too.
What are you, a ゲイ?
I'm surprised there is (was) only one guy spamming, is autism giving way to passivity?

Anyway, no new messages from mods?

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お前ら、旗が丸見えだぞ

>>67859189
Mods posted 'guidelines' in the buyfag, drawfag and sadpanda generals, meaning they're keeping them. DJT has been removed for good it seems.

>>67859052
That's still pretty good. VCDs are still a thing in some crappy places.

Like mine.

>>67858010
CoR-くん and the angry /qa/ mouthbreather called Sakura have always been the same person. It's not a coincidence that CoR-くん was Australian and the /qa/ spastic has an Australian flag here.

At first I thought his behaviour might be excusable by bipolar disorder or some other illness, but since he flips between the Jekyll and Hyde personalities minutes apart, it's clear he's just a passive-aggressive asshole around the clock. The CoR was an exercise in narcissism for him rather than an unconditional attempt to help, which is why he deletes everything each time his glass ego gets grazed.

国旗よりもチンポを見せてよ

>>67859596
>he flips between the Jekyll and Hyde personalities minutes apart
other aus dude aint me

>>67859596
I think you're jumping to quite a few conclusions there. At least 2 different people have been posting screencaps of the BR spammer from this thread on other boards lately, so we know it's not just one guy. That said, take a look at these posts which supposedly come from someone who wants us to stay out of /a/: >>>/a/150129012 >>>/a/150129320
I just can't imagine all this being one person.

お前たちは、最近何読んでるの?

>>67860059
ニューゲーム
けいおん!

>>67860059
人間失格

>>67860059
>繰繰れ!コックリさん
>鬼灯の冷徹

日本の神話やあやかしの話好きから

>>67860159
Don't forget to keep posts on-topic.

>>67860274
The topic is: if DJT has been moved to shitpostland, others should also leave.

もしかしたら下手日本語でポストしてもけどいいかな?

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>>67860059
じょしらく

>>67860514
>that scan res
is that in cor or on nyaa

>>67860436
The topic is Daily Japanese Thread.

>>67860608
cor

>>67860608
Scans that big are nice, but >2.82 MB each is far too much HDD space.

I end up resizing everything to x1600. Still easily readable but won't be needing a new hard drive to download it.

>>67860630
cheers bigears

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>>67860623
そうか、メタスレッドのか?ならばGOOD,俺のポストはその通りだった。

>mine 他言
>get audio for 報復
超おかしい

>>67860705
No, your post was about other threads on /a/ and is a direct violation of global rule 6.

>>67860695
hdd space is really not scarce anymore, sure at one point i was burning farscape onto cds from kazaa to free up space but shits so cheap now why bother

>>67859596
>and the angry /qa/ mouthbreather called Sakura
You have to realise that this is part of why the thread was removed. The angry spastic as you label it was right and if instead of spending so much time and effort into trying to blame all the problems on one person and if they were actually addressed this thread wouldn't be on /int/.
>The CoR was an exercise in narcissism for him rather than an unconditional attempt to help,
That doesn't make any sense. The entire thing being the CoR and CoR-くん are all things we created as memetic references which the anon who put it together only ever used after others had already established it, and he never tripfagged or blogged or anything. The actions involved are entirely opposite of a narcissist. If you know anything about internet here in Australia it's more like sadomasochism more than anything else.
>which is why he deletes everything each time his glass ego gets grazed.
Every time something major like that happened, which was like once or something, the response was to divide it up between other anons as a security measure. Do you remember the original djt.moe or djt.minna (forget what it was) site with all the stuff in the op being put together? It was suddenly offline like a few days after it was up and the person responsible for making the site made a post about it in the thread about how it was flagged for copyright materials. That was the only post about it and it and an archive copy of the site was posted so it could be reuploaded by anyone else. Once again, pretty much the opposite of what a narcissist would do.
I don't know why you have tried to frame it like this. Out of all the people involved in the stuff in the op, that guy was the only one who didn't act egotistical about it. What happened to make you so personally offended? Sounds like a personal grudge far beyond a simple 4chan general.

>>67861147
Might be a timely reminder that this whole Sakura thing called from a single op image some people didn't like and threw a fit over >>67853868 It was so hated by some people that they spent entire threads derailing everything to complain about it, to the point that others started making the threads with the image just to spite the complainers. That's probably more of a telling indicator of the sort of thread culture that became so bad that the lazy nature of moderation of 4chan decided to up and move the thread instead of having to deal with the crazed spergs within.

Why always Australia?
Why always a new IP?
Christ.

>>67861239
Because Australia is great

>>67861239
What do you mean? I thought it's no secret by now that there's quite a fair number of scanlators who are Australians? Besides,
>>67861147
>>67861221
aren't wrong though.

Why fixate on their flags especially when right now the shitposters are blaming it all on BR because of one poster.

>>67861382
>What do you mean?
What I mean is that looking at posts with Australian (and Indonesian, incidentally) flags is very interesting. That's what I mean. Just a passing remark, that's all. Pay no mind, I guess.

>>67861671
Oh ok.

So an ontopic question here. Each day my Lean/Relearn/Young is about a 1:1:1 split. I just struggle to remember some words when it's been a week since I last saw them. Is this normal?

>>67862189
>Each day my Lean/Relearn/Young is about a 1:1:1 split.
What is that in Due/New ratio?
Anyway, Anki stats don't mean much. You should gauge your progress by reading native content. If you need to look up words that you've already seen in Anki frequently, you might want to consider studying kanji/radicals (assuming you're not already doing that). I studied kanji and recommend it, but I imagine learning radicals would wield similar results. Otherwise, adjust your new card limit and try to find a comfortable pace.

>>67862367
Due:New is about 150:20.

Thanks for the info though. Native content is something I need to spend more time doing. I might take up radicals because some kanji are really hard to differentiate by memory alone. It's easiest to remember when the word is compound kanji or kanji+kana but a lone kanji throws me if I've seen similar ones.

>spend too much time on anki and grammar points
>get completely shat on by reading and listen section
And I was thinking as long as you have broad vocab knowledge you could understand every sentences. I learned my lesson the hard way ;-;

>>67862895
>Go to Japanese bookstore in Sydney
>Browsing for over an hour picking out books
>あなたは大丈夫ですか?
>Drop spaghetti all over floor
I know that feel

>>67862548
Looks fairly normal to me, at at 20 new cards per day my review number fluctuates between 100 and 150. Regarding the importance of reading, you should keep in mind that Anki is first and foremost a memorization tool, and not necessarily a learning tool, and that Core2k6k is an unnatural means of acquiring vocab - the natural way would be to make your own cards from words you encounter while reading, which is what most people do after studying the first 1000-2000 cards in Core.

>>67862895
At least your reading level will increase faster than your vocab will. I was a pretty lazy faggot when it comes to reading but I've been reading a lot lately and I've definitely improved significantly.

Can I add a dictionary to KanjiTomo?

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>盛り上がるに盛り上がれない
What does this mean?

>>67864895
盛り上がれない

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What the crap, it's on /int/ now? Fuckin mods.

Anyone else reading this? It's just come out today.

which one of you weebs is this?

http://osaka.craigslist.jp/sha/5868009424.html?lang=en&cc=us

>>67865254
Me sorry

>>67864895
I want to get excited but I can't (because something unhappy was happened).

>>67865352
Thanks

uh what the fuck is DJT doing on /int/? did something happen on /a/?

>>67865499
The usual mods overdosed on hot pockets and the new guy hates djt for some reason.

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Sad that this is what it's come to, here is an old post from ~february?

>The mods removing this would basically be showing people that they can get their way as long as they kick and scream loudly enough, even if they break several rules and ban evade several times in the process of doing so.

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>>67865556
can't they just fucking nuke this shit then? this garbage doesn't belong here

oh well hopefully it will die off on its own

>>67853869
I've tried on laptop / kindle / phone and tablet, and tablet is by far the best option. Zooming on Kindle is actually sort of painful by comparison.

Kindle is far better for reading actual text, though.

>>67865499
>>67865556
Not only on /a/, there are two /int/ mods involved. One is Brazilian. Because of this collusion, there is no way to recur the decision, you either chase your tail forever or quit.

I'm quitting soon, if this is not reversed.

>>67865869
It will die out of starvation instead. Be patient, 友達.

>>67865939
>Not only on /a/, there are two /int/ mods involved. One is Brazilian. Because of this collusion, there is no way to recur the decision, you either chase your tail forever or quit.
Source on that?

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>>67865869
It really doesn't, but what are we gonna do about it? Mods being dickheads about their own lack of moderation in past has lead to this.

Just ignore the thread if you must, neither side wants to be here.

>>67851762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFTGr9OxKQ0

>>67853264
That really wasn't even me desu
I was just shitposting here
Someone is butthurt about DJT to the point of using literally anything as an excuse against us

>>67866257
That post was directed at the guy screencapping your shit, but again, stop spamming this thread and /a/ unless you just want to add fuel to the fire. And if you do, mission accomplished, you can fuck the hell off now.

>>67866443
Why are you being so aggressive? Can't you see no one's willing to take us back? Better get used to these cancerous flags

>>67866609
And that makes it okay to spam DJT and /a/? Clearly you don't give a single fuck about neither of them. Why are you here?

>>67866728
I couldn't give less of a fuck about /a/ at this point
But I still like DJT and consider it one of the best places to learn Japanese

>And that makes it okay to spam DJT
It's not spam if there's only one at a time. Hence my being banned multiple times yesterday for posting off-topic content (apparently we really did get special moderation) and then ban evasion, but not for spamming

>>67866443
>>67866728
Fun thing is everyone is blaming Brazil for shitposting in favor of DJT, but no one remembers the mod-cock sucker here on their side going full-on Brigadier Against DJT for days.

You are both detrimental to DJT and a disposable asset being ignored by your allies. Why do you go on?

>learning 日本語 for 2 月
>know just 200 kanji
What am i doing wrong? It will take eternity (永遠) until i'm done with the Jouyou kanji

>>67858878
/int/ is my main board and I've started watching the thread since it appeared here.

tbqh, I feel like there's less animu autism now, but it that's probably because you guys are still dealing with the board change.

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>>67867002
pic related

>>67866970
What the fuck are you talking about? Trying to maintain a minimum level of decency is being anti-DJT? Why are you here?

>>67866970
Who are you quoting?

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>>67867002
Stop learning just kanji, learn vocab instead. It's far more useful in the long term.

If you really must focus on kanji alone, go through one of the courses for it, Kodansha's or Heisig etc. pick your poison after you've tried them out for a little bit. Blaze through them as fast as possible, since time spent studying individual kanji isn't actually getting you that much closer to your goal - vocab is far better.

Once you're past the beginner's stage you'll realize that kanji really isn't that big of a hurdle - grammar and vocab are much larger problems.

As I remember it, after several months you could notice the decline. After the first year you had people who proudly didn't care about /a/, and the people calling their shit out just died out. At some point it became alright to refer to the thread with the general /djt/ tag. In my mind that's symptomatic of the underlying culture shift the thread went through.

I can probably count on one hand the number of djt's I've been in, in the better part of 2 years. So I can see how the thread could get to the point where getting evicted from /a/ is a legitimate action, but lack the experience of the threads lately to judge the matter properly.

I once did a strawpoll census near the end of 2013
http://www.strawpoll.me/445263/r
, and there's roughly 70% between exclusively /a/, or considered /a/ their mainboard, and out of morbid curiosity I wonder where the thread is now, though this isn't the venue for taking it.

>>67867002
You are wrong. You use a linear projection while actually the more you progress the slower it gets to learn new Kanji since you get to see far less often new kanji.

>>67867002
Learning 20 new words a day with Core will teach me ALMOST all the Joyo kanji I need in 500 days.
By the end of Core2k you should know already 1000 kanji, and core 2k takes less than 4 months.
You are doing something terribly wrong in your study.

>>67867089
I'm here because people like you think it's best to shut up and obey.
I'm doing my part from inside, and people with your refugees-welcome attitude just undermines any leeway for negotiation. I say if you don't want to sperg out, at least leave your classmates do their thing. We've been treated unfairly and accepting it with a smile is how people are put out of any leverage in life.

>>67867151
Nice picture. Pictographs are great, but sadly their concepts change after centuries from creation, keeping symbols current would make it great to learn and hell to historians in the future. South Korea took the plunge - let's see how that unfolds in 200 years.

>>67866728
>>67866880
>>67866970
大事な話があるのでこっちきて
https://temporarychat.com/
Room: djt
Password: 水曜日の食事

>>67867597
A fourth brazilian? What the fuck is happening here

>https://temporarychat.com/
Unnecessary. I've rested my case already.

To the anon who made the offline/webpage version of A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar: >>>/a/150129012 -- http://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/full_night.html

The links for:
Beginner - あまり
Advanced - と言って
Advanced - ともなく
Advanced - やら

Don't work in either the offline or online version.

When unzipping the offline version, there are a few files with the same name.

OFFLINE\intermediate\Intermediateé-é-.png
OFFLINE\intermediate\Intermediateé+.png
OFFLINE\intermediate\Intermediateé+.png
OFFLINE\intermediate\Intermediateé-.png
OFFLINE\intermediate\Intermediateé¦é¦.png
OFFLINE\intermediate\Intermediateé-.png

Since some of these were listed twice, that would make three files with the same name. They all seem to have different file sizes/have different images (only checked one)

Fucking hell that must have been a lot of work though. Great job.

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>>67867796
>portuguese

>>67866728
>>67866880
>>67866970
Let's try to cooperate with each other for a change. For the sake of the thread. Please.
Ocvês estão eagnndaos sobre eusm spost, ams não ososp aralf em nilgês porque não queor euq o seort do tópico eavj. Enmtre aiqu, rop farvo:
https://temporarychat.com/
Sala: djt
Senha: fereição tícpai de auqtras-sfiera

>>67868981
What kind of fag are you? If you want to DJT in Portuguese so bad, go to 55's /lang/ and stay there.

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>no questions worth answering in this entire thread

baka lol

>>67858878
post-2013 /int/ is just a bunch of retarded normalfags blogging about their shitty lives tbqh

and everyone knows you need to be a little autistic to learn japanese

peace, I'm off to live in a new general-free /a/

>>67869529
Dxeia de sre rtardeado, año tme nguniém nuaeqla slaa, ou vcôe é ipnotemcente dmiaes paar rad silpmes çestruõeni. Dexie usa ãto precosia vsãero ad itshoriá no cinenquat e conic, na hedrat ed panojês, se zaf tnata qutseão.

>>67869633
Found the shitty non-punctuator. Leave it to refurbishland to turn anything into a bootleg spoof of its original essence.

なぜこのスレはまだ/int/にあったのか??

>>67870113
jp先輩はDJT達の事嫌いので、いる場所もないよ。;＿;

>>67870308
かわいそう

>>67870495
ありがとう
お前も可愛そう

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By the first week I had to set Anki to 0 new cards/day to focus on reviewing what I go. I figure I'll just focus on review and get started on learning grammar. I got the Tae Kim app on my phone.

>>67871435
Could you tell me more about your life experiences? I'd love to hear about it

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>>67871640
Wouldn't want to make you jealous thirdworlder

>絵を壁に貼った
>絵を壁に掛けた
>絵を壁に付けた(多分違うかもしれない)
Is is correct to use 付ける like this? If it is, is there a difference in nuance, compared to the other two?

>>67871723
>third wordler
lmao dude brazil is a second world country don't you know anything? fucking foreigners

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I've been having all sorts of trouble using the mnemonics method.
I guess I'll just try radicals then. I'll do the 200 Kangxi radicals deck, and go straight down the 2k Core route.

>>67871747
First off, what the fuck is that sentence structure?

>>67871949
What about it?

How easy is it for a person with a legal degree in German law, working for an upper end corporate law firm to migrate to Japan? They probably outsource all the legal work that is related to western nations, right? Probably should have picked a different field...

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>>67871747
>絵を壁に貼った
It sounds natural if you put a poster on a wall.
>絵を壁に掛けた
It also sounds natural if you hang a picture frame on a wall.
>絵を壁に付けた
unnatural

>>67872000
Why are you asking that on a japanese learning thread? Have you gone to 日本語スレッド yet?

ohayosama my fellow ningentachis

gokurosama

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>>67872414
That's what I thought. Thanks for the confirmation!

>>67871891
There is no such thing as second world, you're either shit or you're not

>>67872604
So you're shit?

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>>67872639
Nope I'm set for life

>>67872795
But you just said that 2nd world countries don't exist, and your country isn't particularly good
That could only mean that it's shit.

>>67872854
I'm pretty sure it's first world senpai, I can go outside without being torn apart by monkeys, people know how to drive, the internet is good.
[spoiler]Aight I'll stop I just wanna learn japanese[/spoiler]

>>67872854
>>67872795
>>67872639
>>67872604
くそレスをしないでください

>>67872911
>>67872854
>>67872795
>>67872639
>>67872604
I sure love hearing about geopolitical bullshit in a japanese language learning thread!

ブラジル人よりカナダ人の方が余程やっかいです

Oh boy look at the time
It's raw manga time

イジメ禁止エリアです
ご了承下さい

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Have a quality meme that I can't post anywhere else

熱い過ぎて勉強したくない、でも風邪引いたからエアコンつけない

どうしお

I'm currently going through the 6k core deck, and I am considering studying individual kanji on KKLC at the same time. Is it a good idea?

>>67874300
Yes, as long as you don't let KKLC kanji get in the way of learning vocabulary.

>>67874298
>熱い
「暑い」だ

>>67874298
>>67874439
It should also be 暑さすぎる

>>67874300

Drop anki at 2k and read instead.

>>67874564
or 「暑すぎる」

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i literally learned how to read kana in 2 days thanks to pic related

>>67871747
all of them work fine depending contexts

>>67874649
よかったな
その通りで頑張って続きましょう

>>67874579
Aren't you supposed to make your own Anki deck when you start reading?

>/djt/ on int
My sides, might as well remove it from existence.
Half assed job like always, fucking mods.

>>67874564
>>67874593
I think you simply say 暑すぎる.
>>67874649
Çok iyiyim

>>67874864
Theoretically, but in reality it makes things harder unless your shared deck is of very low quality.

>>67874722
then, in what context do you think the phrase "絵を壁に付けた" is "fine"?

>>67874564
or 「暑みを感じる」 as an internet slang

>>67875060
literally when you want to make a contact between picture and a wall

The mods have ruined my week with this nonsense.

>>67875060

It's internet slang for when you jizz all over a wall.

>>67875307
あなたが本当に日本人なのか分からないので、念のため日本語で書くけど
勿論こっちは日本人なんだから外国人がそう言えば、理解は出来るさ
でも普通はそうは言わない表現を文脈によって可とする教え方はどうなんだ?

>>67874864
Mio Dio don't listen to him. You can get by without a deck, but it will help you focus on words you have a problem remembering.

Remember that there are a couple of autists in these threads who will make absolute statements like that to seem authoritative. Use the guide.

>>67875307
文字通り接触させるシチュエーションまで考慮に入れる必要があるの?

>>>/a/150180150

>>67875718
グッジョブ

>>67867843
> Intermediateé-é-.png
your unarchiving software messed it up - make sure it's UTF-8 encoding when you unzip the file.

>>67875629
言ってる意味がわからない

>>67875502
絵に限らずありとあらゆる物は壁に付けられるだろ
彼はさらに日本語として成立するならどういった
ニュアンスの違いがあるかを聞いているのだから

まずは文脈しだいでありえない表現ではないことを確認した上で、最後は絵と壁が接触しただけかもしれないし上二つのように壁に設置したとも読み取れると言うのがベストだろ

Meanwhile:

>>>/a/150180908
>>>/a/150180885
>>>/a/150180881
>>>/a/150180875

>>67876252
ひどい

>>67876252
Finally.

when I run into an unknown kanji (compound) on core2k, but I know the meaning given the reading, should it be marked as good, or easy?

I'm asking this because I only know few hundreds of kanji, and memorizing the kanji I met on the wild without mnemonic/writing it is pretty tough.

>>67876377
>still allowed as long as they don't use the pastebin
Nevermind fucking mods are pussies

>>67871910
If you have time it might be worth going through core slowly at first and learning or "making" radicals as you see them instead. The kangxi radicals help a bit but they don't relate much to how kanji are composed today; some are almost always used in their "alternative" form and others hardly crop up at all. Moreover some kanji are used so much in other kanji that they deserve more to be radicals than the actual radicals.

>>67876107
>ニュアンスの違いがあるかを聞いているのだから
>まずは文脈しだいでありえない表現ではないことを確認した上で、最後は絵と壁が接触しただけかもしれないし上二つのように壁に設置したとも読み取れると言うのがベストだろ

あなたの言っている事に間違いはない
ならばそれを説明してあげないとベストにならないだろうに
fineだけでは説明出来てないだろう

>>67876252
>all dead

Brutal

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おはようおにいちゃん

きゅうに冬になりました

こたつから出られない

>>67876477
If you got it even though you never saw the card, press Good, it will bring up another review in 10 minutes. If you still got it right, press Good again.

There is no need to prematurely push a card's review up - if it's easy, it will get out of sight quite quickly with only Good presses.

In other words, you just skip the "again" part.
I only use Easy for cognates.

>>>/qa/854032

>>67876927
that looks like a interesting thread

for me to poop on

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>tfw no oyabin

>>>a/150182058

>>67877543
あなた、どなたを引用していますか?

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>150182058
lel

if porn / fetish threads can get away with it, why not an actual learning one

>>>/a/150156755
>>>/a/150067860
>>>/a/150175393
gotta make way for quality threads like these!

their incompetence boggles the mind

さむい

おにいちゃんあっためて

>>67877633
あのスレが削除された

>>>/a/150182459

>>67878005
よしよし
こっちきて

>>67877988
i mean if youre gonna go that far you have to delete 95% of posts on 4chan

you have to set the bar low if youre gonna let just any random ding dong post

What the fuck. I unsuccessfully try to quit 4chan for the hundred time and come back to this. I hate this board. This is temporary right?

来夏で三週間に日本に行くことにした。僕は日本能力試験三級っぽいレベルだけど、聴解がまだまだ下手だから、日本語学校で習いたいだけど、どうするのがあまり知っていない。

誰かそうなことをすることがあるじゃないか?
お勧めがあるか?

I plan on going 3 weeks in japan this summer and I would like to take language course at a language school to improving my speaking and listening skills.

Anybody has advice or have done something like that?

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>>67878746
If we lie down and take it, it won't be temporary.

If we make a lot of racket, it might not. After all, that's how shitpost-kun got his way in the first place, right?

>>67878746
why would anyone want to quit 4chan?

>>67878746

We make the rules.

loving every laugh

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ぞい

>>67879066
To spend more time reading in Japanese obviously

>>67871747
I think those meanings are as follows.

I pasted a picture on a wall.
I hung a picture on a wall.
I made a picture touch a wall.
(Or it might be able to be used as a meaning like "I added the decoration of a picture to the wall.")

>>67879028
>If we make a lot of racket
No -- do not stoop to their level.
What we need to do is to have civilized threads on /a/ and report all the people trying to derail us into off topic shit.

>>67879135
儂 > 俺様 > 糞 > *

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>>67879294
In an ideal world, yes staying civil would work, but the mods have proven they are either literally retarded or incapable of sticking to policy.

I don't see the point in trying to stay civilized if that got us nowhere last time.

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>>67879135

>>67879294
>What we need to do is to have civilized threads on /a/ and report all the people trying to derail us into off topic shit.
That never worked before. Ideally one of our resident autists who is in the thread 24/7 would become a mod or at least a janitor

>>67879401
It's only been a couple days. I would imagine that this is really one mod and a couple shitposters trying to keep us out. If others see that they are the ones making useless posts then we will gain more support.
Please don't stoop to their level.
I've reported more posts in the last few days than I have in all of my years on 4chan. I know it's not doing anything, but if enough of us start fighting back that way...

>>67879551
No, that's no good either. Ideally it would be someone neutral. We don't deserve special treatment, no one does.

>>67879612
>I've reported more posts in the last few days than I have in all of my years on 4chan. I know it's not doing anything, but if enough of us start fighting back that way...
I honestly believe I report at least 100 posts for every post I make. I'm at a loss on what to do what you are suggesting seems to be the best course of action but I doubt it will do anything

>>67879612
So not only you're abiding to the change, you are actually HELPING it by reporting everything?

Mods wouldn't ban shit when we were on /a/, where hammers were needed. Why would they be working now that we're on /int/, where /a/ rules don't even apply?

The answer is: to pretend DJT fits /int/ and not /a/. And as soon as that is "proved", they can just forget about us and let it rot.

>>67879703
>I honestly believe I report at least 100 posts for every post I make
To add to this 9/10 of my posts are either "Who are you quoting" or mocking people who pluralise anime manga or kanji

>>67879009
/djt/ historically is for those who self-study the written aspect of the language. Especially now that the thread has been displaced, you'll be very hard pressed to find someone who can actually answer your question.

My suggestion would be to really research your school ahead of time, and make sure it's really worth your time / money, when compared to what you could learn via self-study, a personal tutor, or hell just talking to people while being a tourist.

>>67879795
So if this foreign thread gets more reports than the rest of this board combined they might notice something?

>>67879795
That's not what I meant at all -- sorry, I forgot to clarify that all of my reporting takes place on /a/ in the short lived threads that we have.
I would prefer it if we didn't use the threads on /int/ as we usually would since it would be like giving up on returning to our home but that doesn't mean we need to act like little shits on /int/ while we are here.

>>67879612
As if the mods would start giving a shit about /djt/ NOW? You're not making any sense, anon.

Mass reporting is just going to piss them off, more than anything. It's far easier to pass on the buck and say "oh let /int/ deal with it".

The point is to show them that no, passing it off to someone else isn't a solution.

>>67852711
Some people just learn better with physical

>>67879935
>Mass reporting is just going to piss them off, more than anything. It's far easier to pass on the buck and say "oh let /int/ deal with it".
That's a good point but I just can't give up hope yet.

>>67879935
I'm one of the more helpful posters in /djt/ and I have no interest in a thread that stays on /int/. I can't be anonymous if there are no other posters with the same flag as me.
I doubt i'm the only regular poster with these sentiments

Do you think /ag/ might be a solution to our current state? It seems like the best option to me, not only for DJT but also for the other generals, but a lot of people are skeptical about it.

>>67879906
I don't get it, you're reporting offending posts in an illegal DJT thread that is already marked as "delete on sight"? What good would that do?

I say it's better to report every single slightly-offending general so more people will see/feel the huge load of crap this policy is.

>>67880118
/ag/ might be nice, but if every anime of the season gets a general, what is /a/ for?

Unless /a/ becomes "useless threads and previously aired anime", in which case it would be pretty interesting. But /ag/ would become the main board, of course.

>>67880118
>Do you think /ag/ might be a solution to our current state?
No, Never. I wouldn't mind splitting up anime and manga but It would become impossible to discuss anything outside of generals if that happened.
I doubt either option will ever happen

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>>67874649
>メ
>mexico

>>67880039
Fortunately no one can tell you apart from Italy.

>>67879849
That's kinda sucks.
I would have imagine more people would have been in japan since it's literally the only place it's spoken.

The thing is I don't any japanese so I won't probably speak much japanese even in japan so I wanted to take advantage of the opportunity not only to have fun but also to make progress.

>>67880230
>>67880276
Threads about seasonal shows would still be allowed on /a/. /ag/ would mainly be dedicated to threads about finished shows that are up 24/7, and also DJT, buyfag etc.

>>67880804
I don't know*

>>67880804
It's because people coming from /a/ generally wanted to consume media in Japanese, not necessarily speak it with others.

Honestly, if you go to Japan not knowing a whole lot, you're not going to pick up a whole lot either. It's not another romance language, where there is ~60% vocabulary overlap and very similar grammar.

You only "learn a language" while speaking if you can understand ~85+% of what's being fed to you, otherwise there will be too many holes to have a proper conversation.