QTDDTOT - Questions Thread

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oops, missed the new thread, reposting:

Does anyone know that Chinese (impressionist??) water colour painter who just paints waves, beaches, sea shore and shit with really nice sea foam.
Something like attached pic but heaps better.

>tfw Chinese but can't for the life of me remember Chinese names

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I want to do some master studies for facial expressions, but don't really know many good paintings that have interesting faces. Anyone mind helping?

>>3022396
Are rotrings a meme or are they actually good for illustrating? I really wanna get a reliable pen but they looks kinda bulky and are pretty expensive (isograph and rapidograph).
Purisu enlighten me.

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What makes a drawing "Anime"?
Do you consider this to be anime style?

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>>3022593
How about this?

>>3022396
holy shit. stop with the little witch academia avatarfagging, I don't know if it's the same person or a group of people or if it's random but it's seriously annoying as fuck.

>>3022593
Anime = Animation

That is illustration or Japanese cartoon illustration with "anime" aesthetics that goes back to tezuka as trends change due to generation, industry demand and what sells. Despite the word "anime", a stigmatized word by norms, all the fundamentals are still present.

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>>3022600

I swear that's the first time I used an Akko pic on this board. You're probably referring to that one anon who posts "why can't I do it" image macro of her.

Is it "offensive" for you if your picture gets redrawn/repainted to show your mistakes? Not a redline, but basically someone takes your misshapen skeleton, fixes it and puts meat and skin on its bones, figuratively speaking. How does it make you feel? (Provided they make your picture look better, of course, and aren't a clueless beginner with raging dunning-krueger)

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I got the Loomis books, and they all very quickly dive into measurements and approximations of ideal measurements you can memorize and then use to construct images without reference.

Now obviously that's useful at some point, but is this something a beginner, learning to draw from life, should focus on too much? I feel like it encourages symbol drawing. Any experiences? Thoughts? Should I go through the books regardless or stick with drawing from life for a while?

>>3022614
it stings but i'm still grateful to people who do it. it helps.

Why do artists that work with line art usually set it on a Multiply layer? Why not just lower the opacity? As far as I can tell, there's no difference in lowered-opacity Normal or Multiply layers on the base colors below...

>>3022621
use it loosely, as a tool. if you have to defer to the construction balls do so. he says himself they are approximations.

>>3022627
what i'm asking is, is there any point learning to construct shit before i can draw it with sufficient accuracy from life or will i start seeing construction balls and lines when drawing from ref and end up a confused failed artist

good book for composition?

Can you recommend any refs/tuts for drawing penises?

I'm serious.

>>3022640
Just get a boyfriend.

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>>3022600

>>3022630
It's better to practice observation drawing skills first, otherwise, you might get into bad habits about your proportions.

>>3022640
Check out doxy's tutorials
http://prismblush.com/tutorials/

>>3022640
i-i could be your reference anon

>>3022614
no
someone actually took the time to fix and show me my mistake, why would i be offended by that? clearly they actually care and want to see me improve if they're taking the time out of their day to redraw my shit art

how can i improve my edges?

>>3022899
a bit of theory helps a lot i think with edges, like for example there are 7 types of edges. so if you like go through them all and try to understand them and what they're for, and what they relate to irl and what they are good for as design elements i think you'll be able to see edges better and make better choices as to how you do them.

(then you do a bunch of still lifes to internalize it lol.)

>>3022930
>7 types of edges
Source?

>>3022933
is a fact

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What is it like drawing with a tablet that supports tilt and rotation?

>>3022930
thanks, can you recommend some resource?
didn't start scott robertson's how to render yet, does it cover the subject?

>>3022945
I honestly don't use it, because I'm sure there's some getting used to and I've never felt the need to.

>>3022957

not him but:

http://muddycolors.blogspot.com.br/2015/04/10-things-about-edges.html

>>3022945
pretty useful actually, though it wouldn't be a huge loss not having them. i use rotation a lot because i like a sharp nib-like brush for sketching, tilt not so much, except for brush projection

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>>3022396

im a little concerned about style and juggling interests, if anyone has any input i'd be very thankful

pic related is a few of my works, im kind of all over the place, i like watercolors, oil, drawing and 3d, im feeling like this is starting to come back to bite me in the ass, since i dont excell in any of them, so what do you people think about trying different media and styles? (im in my mid 20s if that says anything)

>>3022945
>>3022960
>>3022973
Why would tilt rotation be beneficial?

>>3022982
Only thing I can think of is if you want to change the shape of the brush organically, kinda like you can change from thin and hard to thick and soft when you tilt a pencil.

I love comics but I hate super heroes. Where should I start if I like more serious storytelling? I'm mainly a Weeb (GitS, Battle Angel Alita, Blade of the Immortal, Vagabond), and I liked Watchmen a lot.

>>3023028
dark horse i guess, i don't know if they're still around or what, but they used to publish lots of good non-super-hero comics

you could also get heavy metal magazine or 2000ad, heavy metal especially, and i think you can get a huge torrent with like every single one, the ones from the 80s are my favorite

>>3023031
Thanks, I'll check it out? What kind of stories are usually published in Dark Horse and Heavy Metal?
I'm thinking more specifically of large stories that span many issues like Watchmen. I don't know if there are many authors who do this kind of thing though.

>>3022614
If you're going to use apocryphal psychology memes, at least learn how to spell them.

>>3022409
Dude. Rembrandt.

Then Vermeer.

>>3022515
If you do precise, black and white line art, yes, they're worth it. They're not required, however. They were developed for graphic design, drafting, and architecture, when it was all hand drawn, before computers, when you needed precise lines the same width throughout.
There are better art pens now, that don't cost nearly as much, aren't as hard to take care of. Rapidographs are something you should only invest in if you know you're going to use them all the time.

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Anyone has this?
https://gumroad.com/l/ms5

I don't think this stuff should be sold.

>>3022621
Loomis is training wheels, learning the forms and shapes of the head. The goal is to not need it later on, or only need it when stuck on a problem.

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Does anyone know where I can download Clip Studio Paint?
Is it worth buying?

I like Sai a lot but its pretty limited.
I have Photoshop but its a little overwhelming for me. I haven't had the time to learn and customize everything.

>>3023265
sign up on cgpeers
do it now though, registrations are open only on the 1st and 15th of every moth

>>3023279
Thanks!

>>3023279
anyone else having trouble with registration for the past few months? keep getting

Couldn't proceed with registration
(Error: 0xE4000005)

>>3023265
It's worth buying CSP.

I want to learn how to build up my visual library and be able to measure proportions. I've got Loomis, Hamilton and Vilppu's books: which one is best to start off with? I'm thinking of going through all three of them to see which method works best for me.

>>3023223
Nevermind, just bought it.

[spoiler]I feel dirty, paying for this stuff.[/spoiler]

>>3023303
It's cheap and shows support.

>>3023305
I'd rather pay a commission than brushes but what the hell, as an artist myself I understand how good it feels to receive a little money for one's work from time to time.

I've been looking into online art website subscriptions, but it's super overwhelming. Which one should I subscribe to? Schoolism? Gnomon? PencilKings? There's sooo many

>>3022640
get snapchat and a couple of pictures of boobies and you will have a million dick references are you kidding me

>>3023295
My registration got through, but I haven't gotten the confirmation email. When I tried to register again I got the same error.

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>>3022404
Ruo Li

>>3023376
I made a spare one just because, but sharing it doesn't look like a good idea

Why do people draw stuff that isn't porn?

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>>3023303
c-can you please share the brushes? It's not available in my region. thank you.

>>3023265
It's worth the cash, to be honest. You can wait for sales which happens once or twice a month, then it's usually sold for $25. Pretty darn cheap if you ask me.

What do you guys do when you're painting from a really blurry photo and need to finish up rendering?

I realize this is where many artists are forced to go for that 'painterly effect,' maybe someone can tell me how to do so? im thinking its as simple as picking the right brush but you know what the fuck do i know.

>>3023458

Porn is low hanging fruit.

>>3023221
thanks man, gonna give it a second thought.

Reposting from a dying thread:

Ok so i had a question about "making references"

So I'm developing an original story. Originally, I was inspired by a song, for now let's say that somg was Bon Jovi's Livin on a Prayer.
In my story, the main character has these recurring nightmares, and within them a person is talking. The words they're saying reference a verse in Bon Jovi's song. Let's say I take 2 or 3 lines and pretty much copypaste them. Then maybe in another dream more lines are unveiled, and so on, for a few dreams. Bon jovi isn't actually singing in the story, but the words still make sense in the context of the story.

Could I get sued for doing that?
How does a show like JoJo make so many musical references ( important characters, mind you) and get away with it?

How do you shade characters like this? I mean it looks simple but my attempts to render like this turn out pretty shit.
Basically what I'm currently doing is: lineart layer -> flat color layer -> flat shadow layer -> blending layer with the flat shadow layer mask.
How do you think this is done?

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>>3023744
whoops

How the FUCK do you get clean sharp lines in photoshop?? Do I have to quadruple my resolution and brush sizes to get a decent line?

>>3023154
sorry, I was convinced there was an umlaut for some reason

quickest way to learn coloring please
most of time when I start coloring I was like "what the fuck should I put here?"

>>3023854
Schoolism - Designing with Color and Light with Nathan Fowkes

>>3023744
>>3023746
You shade it as usual on a separate layer, then erase parts of it for softer edges.

>>3023705
You will need permission to reprint the lyrics - and you will be sued, as the publishing company will come after you - it's one of the most litigious areas of music copyright. You can mention Bon Jovi's, even the song title, but the lyrics will get you in trouble, without permission, or paying for a license.
JoJo's have had copyright issues, as well. I don't have to time to find the links, but I know at least one band threatened them with a lawsuit.

I asked in a beginner thread but wanted to try get a few more opinions other than one.

Where should I be looking if I want to learn/get good at drawing clothing, does anyone have any resources for that?

Also in terms of decent colouring pencils that aren't extremely bad, what could I purchase from Amazon or a shop (UK). I was told only polychromos, would that be ok for starting?

What's wrong with photobashing?

>>3023890
Yeah, you can get away with mentioning the band or even the song, but using the lyrics, even written word, can get you in trouble. To name an example of JoJo's legal problems, Prince gave Shueshia and Bandai a lot of grief back in the day, especially over Giorno's Stand being called Gold Experience.

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Hey guys
anyone know a program that allows you use an eyedropper tool from the desktop?
Could use it for passive studying when im watching movies or when an interesting image comes up. instead of dragging shit into photoshop constantly

There are some but they display color as HTML or RGB values. Something like pic would be great if it was a separate program

>>3024075
nvm I found some

>>3023518
Here.
I wonder how something like this isn't available where you live but what the hell, I paid for it, might as well share it.
https://www.mediafire.com/?s3zrqx63orp5uj5

>>3023967
nothing

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>>3024088
>nvm fixed it

>>3023967
The final result.

>>3023518
>>3024133
Just make sure to reply to me when you get it to delete the file, I don't want to fuck MissChroma's business.

(warning: nsfw furshit) how do you paint like this guy? his coloring looks very appealing http://null-ghost.tumblr.com/

Is the whole drawing tablets and software meme worth investing in and learning?

i have mostly worked with traditional methods but i had heard moving towards actually making any money then the digital stuff was where its at

>>3022624
Anyone got any thoughts on this?

>>3024306
I can't give too much insight into this, so keep in mind I only worked with pencils and comic inking before digital.

That being said, it opened up the world of painting to me in a way I just couldn't before, specially because of cost. I know there are differences when it comes to painting (especially color mixing), but it's definitely worth a try.

If cost is a problem (like it was with me), just buy an entry level non-shit tablet (mine was the old model of the Wacom Bamboo, I think it cost me the equivalent of 100 USD at the time) and pirte everything else (there's a lot of stuff you can get online for free as well).

If you are very used to and comfortable with traditional painting, I hear Painter is as similar to it as digital gets. Good luck!

>>3024070
But you have to mention it in the context of it being a song or just ANY mention in ANY context?
Okay using lyrics is out of the question. But I have a character who's name is after a song title. However the name is also mentioned in mythology, movies, and even a book. I'm not making a specific reference to any song, book, movie, or myth either, rather I'm using the name based off of events happening within my original story. It just so happens to be the same name of a song title.

>>3024088
>PM me the solution
>Check the other threads in this category
>Wrong category! Moved it for you!
:)
>Found the answer! Closing thread.

At LEAST link ONE that you've found
Or just tell us about it.

should i start writing down all my ideas while im a beginner in case i end up losing my imagination down the road?

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>>3024133
>>3024182
got it. thank you alot anon!

Where I can find good reference pics of interesting clothes for women? I've tried to take inspiration from what I see everyday, but most women from my country wear pretty dull outfits (blue jeans, t-shirts, boots).

>>3024903
Search for "street fashion" "high fashion" and "historical fashion" blogs - you'll get a billion hits. Usually just pics of random people in notable outfits, mostly women.

If you want crazy outfits, Tokyo Street Fashion is a great place to start. Otherwise, New York/London are more grounded bets. Street fashion is what I'd call accessible contemporary fashion.

>>3024905
Thank you so much, anon. I've been seeing a few of those fashion blogs and I've found a lot of interesting stuff. Just what I needed it.

Can anyone recommend some drawing software for linux? I know people tend to recommend krita, but I've tried it and even the simplest brushes draw really slowly on my computer. I've been using drawpile for lack of better options, but it lacks a lot of basic things like being able to rotate selections or a blurring tool

Okay nobody crucify me but does anyone in the US have experience commissioning questionable subjects like loli/shota? I don't want to get v& just because I'm okay with drawing it and I know people are gonna want to buy that shit.

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What happens to breasts when a woman raises her arm? I know on guys the pec gets super stretched out. Is it kinda similar? Does the boob kinda follow the pec, or does it still have weight and hang? What about smaller boobs? Bigger ones?

>>3025322
The breast is connected to the pec about half way down so if the pec raises, the breast does as well. It isn't as significant as a man because in that situation the pec itself is moving but there is significant shift.

>>3025202
Its never illegal to look up laws. I cant give you an answer but you should feel safe looking up the legality in your state.

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>>3025324
Pic illustrating what it looks like when one arm is raised up

The breast tends to raise up and get stretched out which makes it look rounder / perkier and reduces sagginess, which is why "arms up" is a pretty common pose in porn / erotic pornography.

>>3025333
It's funny because looking up laws does seem kind of shaky.

>>3025349
I can see how thinking that way would almost make sense if you were retarded

Pretty sure most governments out there encourage their citizens to actually read the law.

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>>3025346
That fucking filename.

I really like this picture as well because it reflects what happens to larger breasts.

>>3025350
This, but we live in the US and I could definitely understand being put on a watchlist or some shit for looking up the legality of that stuff. Though you aren't breaking the law googling a law so who cares.

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>>3025351
here's one with arms down vs one arm up vs both arms way up

>tfw no older sister with puffy nipples to pose naked for me on birthdays

>>3025352
You're in 4chan right now. You're already in watchlist, anon.

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Note that the stretching of the skin can make the areolas ellipsoid. You can see it on those other refs too but here it's really obvious

>>3025324
>>3025346
>>3025351
>>3025357
>that fucking filename
I lost hard when I checked

Thanks bro I can see what you're saying now. Normally it seems like breasts are fairly dynamic, but as I look into it, they actually seem more static than what is depicted in art (sometimes). And when women wear bras it's even more static.

>>3025364
Come on, 4chan is like only barely 'worse' than Reddit. It's not some edgy anarchist h4x0r forum.

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>>3025371
Not sure what you mean, they're super dynamic, especially in motion. It just can be difficult to portray accurately I guess. Video games physics engines certainly struggle with it

>>3025386
that looks painful

>>3025367
again, i think this is one of those things where losing your virginity would be really helpful, i see now why artists are regarded as pervs, because they gots ta get those references

>>3025388
>not having over 1 TB of nude references
How can you even call yourself an artist?

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>>3025386
except for soul calibur 4, where they actually did tons of research (touching boobs)

>>3025388
>not having qt grills with big areolas pose for you every time you visit figure drawing class
You're doing something wrong, anon

>>3025386
Yeah I guess static really wasn't the right word. Hard to portray correctly in it's natural state, as you said, sounds better.

>>3025386
To be fair, those are very obviously fake so they will swing more than bounce. Real breasts would absorb the momentum and ripple whereas fake breasts are going to swing along the connecting tissue because they are too firm for the momentum to carry throughout the tissue.

>>3025390
I don't think that game did it quite correctly either, I mean they might've had a pretty good (but still simplified) model of bouncing titties but pretty sure it still was only titties, when in reality the entire body jiggles and deforms to various degrees while moving. Pretty much any body part containing fat jiggles in a way similar to how breasts do, muscles also jiggle to a lesser degree, even bones aren't 100% rigid. And of course, male bodies aren't immune to the jiggle either

This stuff is just super difficult to simulate in real-time using a computer.

>>3025403
I never realized that until now, that does really put things into perspective.

>>3025389
yes i have 1 tb of real girls too, i remember when i reached into the computer to play with their nips lol.

i'm being a bit mean but you know like if you take something you know, like dogs or something, do you think someone who had only ever seen pictures of dogs would be able to bring to mind the various attitudes and anatomies of a dog in the same way a guy who sees and interacts with dogs everyday can?

like i don't think if you're an inveterate motor-boater that you need to make a note, "areolae are stretchy"

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>>3025398
Something like this?

Doesn't really negate the point, natural boobs tend to move and deform even more than fake ones

>>3025403
yeah but people are only looking at the tits, spending less energy and time on the bits people don't really look at is a part of art, and it makes art better. if the whole model bounced like real then teenage dicks wouldn't be throbbing in time with ivy's idle animation. the point isn't simulation, that's not art.

>>3025408
Like...seeing that makes my testicles clench in agony. Does that nor hurt her? I'm homo as fuck so I don't know a damn thing about boobs.

>>3025403
>And of course, male bodies aren't immune to the jiggle either

I had a webm of this but it's too large to post here but here's the source video illustrating man jiggle

https://vimeo.com/64441425

>>3025408
They definitely deform more. That example is such an extreme though, those real breasts are significantly bigger than the fake ones in the first gif. The direction of the fake breasts was more circular, the direction of the real ones bounce more up and down. Thanks for the reference though, having an extreme reference is really useful.

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>>3025418
I don't actually have a huge collection of bouncing boob gifs either, I'm just relying on google pics search here.

The first gif with the fake boobs was poor judgement on my part, should have been able to tell

Not wanting to post in /beg/ because is not critique but I'm learning The New Drawing... and Loomis using pencil, the old way and a question popped:

Using tablet and digital shit is effective too (for learning)?
Do someone in general learns more using the traditional ways or it doesn't matter?
How did you started?

>>3025425
wow they really do go side to side like in anime

>>3025664
Yes.
They often learn more with traditional because it's what you're more familiar with rather than drawing on a computer.
Traditional like any kid who draws on paper.

>>3025664
You get different feedback using digital. As most of us grow using pens, pencils and paper, learning using traditional media makes more sense as you already have quite a bit of experience with these tools, but if you're already comfortable using digital there's not much difference, the fundamentals are still the same regardless of the medium

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HOW DO I STOP LURKING AND START DRAWING????
i think ive been here 2 years and have drawn for less than 5 hours
end my life

>>3025739
Just do it. That simple. Do it every single day and don't stop. Keep drawing until you get good.

>>3025664
>Using tablet and digital shit is effective too (for learning)?
It takes getting used to, but you can make it work.

>Do someone in general learns more using the traditional ways or it doesn't matter?
Traditional imo is easier to start with and teaches with tactile feedback as you practices line and values. Digital, because it's so removed, can be difficult to learn without first having experienced traditional.

I start with traditional

does anyone have the tits warrior meme image sitting around?

I could have sworn I saw it again here in the last couple days but I forgot to save it.

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At what stage should you start doing anatomy?

In particular I just want to get better at drawing tummies.

>>3025860
immediately? wtf are you doing right now?

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I make wojacks on /sp/ how do i make my wojacks look better

>>3025863
Figure drawing by loomis. He gives you a simplified frame of the human body on which you can place the things you like. It's mostly to help you with proportion and stuff.

Someone told me that if you try anatomy too early it can fuck you up. Even showed me some drawings that had all the muscles, but they were all fucked up sizes and it made the drawing look 10 times worse. Regardless I don't regret learning Loomis' framework shit first because it's very helpful. I'm just not sure if I'm at a stage where I should begin to learn anatomy or not.

>>3025876
whoever gave you that advice doesn't know what they're talking about. you're going to suck at anatomy when you first pick it up because all beginners do. as you learn more about it, it'll look better. learning about proportions is part of anatomy. After you're done with that, read Loomis' figure drawing for all it's worth. it covers proportions too so you won't draw muscles the wrong sizes.

>>3025891
Nigger did you read what I said? I said I've already reading that book

>>3025322
maybe related

https://youtu.be/JeluYdgfltY

>>3025868
give him more personality. i dont know this team, the bakersfield trainrobbers, but lets say they are a team that never does well. then id have the hat covering wojaks eyes and a single tear running down his cheek.

thats just me jerking off. but most pieces that feel lacking are always missing a story. yours is too clearly done: wojak needs a torso and arms, and a shirt to go over them, voila, how boring. itd be more interesting witih a story, something connected to that team, maybe connected to the meta-atmosphere of shitposting on /sp/. again, i dont go there.

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>>3025868
Put more detail on his shirt. At the moment you've essentially just put the fill colour bucket on him.

Give it creases, folds, like a real T-shirt. Pic related is a good example of what I'm talking about. Look at all the different creases and folds on his clothes.

For a complete beginner who is interested in figure drawing, is it best to start with Loomis' fun with a pencil, or immediately start with Figure Drawing for All It's Worth. Or maybe another figure drawing book?

>>3026014
i would say do fun with a pencil first ,that is like a pre-requisite to figure drawing.it teaches how to build heads out of basic forms and what not. and it doesn't take long to do. do some of his , then do some from imagination. once you feel like you can handle stuff in that book move up to figure.

>>3026017
Thanks, will do

Whenever I post on tumblr the picture gets insanely small and it makes it looks like shit.
Is there anyway to fix this?
The picture I tried to upload was 1000 x 2700.

>>3024637
That's fine, you can't trademark or copyright names.

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>>3022396
why people like this exist?
do requesters even understand what is a job?

>>3026093
You mean on the dashboard?
Is it still small when you click on it?
If you want it to be bigger on your tumblr page, you need to edit the css or choose a theme that displays the images high res.

>>3026386
They don't see it as someone who has to spend hours to make something. They see it more like a 10 dollar print they are getting. In their mind a 10 dollar print and a custom request are the same thing. It's just a drawing right?!

At least that is my theory on how people expect a certain quality for pocket change or in this case, free.

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>>3022396
where is the best place to find lots of unique poses?
ive recently become somewhat enamored by the idea of pushing the limits of what the body can do in my drawings, but half the time i do a new pose it looks off, like its not really a part of the scene i make, or that it was just tacked on. any good websites i can go to for poses, or do i just have to trust my imagination and trial and error every pose?

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Is it better to practice digital painting without smoothing to improve your line quality? Or is that pointless and you should just practice how you feel most comfortable?

>>3026532
real life has smoothing built in, just roll with it :^)

Please help me, I'm trying to find the name of a certain painter. He works within contemporary art and is Chinese, all his work (that I have seen) are large multifigure scenes of Chinese people painted from life. He applies paint very opaquely and does not soften many edges.

What are some good intros to construction/values?

>>3026519
blog?

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How big of a difference is there between cheap gouache and expensive? I've got limited experience with watercolors but none with gouache, so I'd rather go for a cheaper option first. I was looking at pic related. I assume the pigment won't be as rich and it'll fade more than expensive stuff, but can you still get a good product out of it?

>>3022396

what are some good books or sites that can help with costume/fashion design?

>>3026386

I remember when I was much younger I was making an RPG setting. I was really excited about the setting, and I knew my friend enjoyed drawing. In my mind it was a win-win if I did all the writing and she could do illustrations for my setting. Of course today I realize that's really dumb, but it's easy to understand how someone (especially somebody young who doesn't really properly value the time and effort it takes) to be excited about an idea and just assume people will be excited to draw it, "since you like to draw anyway!"

And of course, DA is filled with both children as well as adults with the maturity of children. It's unsurprising.

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What are some good tutorials showing how the eyes around around the head? Try to get a better idea on the perspective for 3 quarter views.

Should I go back to using pencil and paper? I've been using a tablet for 4-6 years and lately I've been extremely frustrated trying to make anything at all. I feel slightly less frustrated drawing on paper. I'd like to think its because I have troubles being happy with my sketches and doodles but even the end result feels so upsetting.

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Need a new drawing tablet with atleast these measurements Height 2.5 ft, width 3.5 ft. Length 3ft. Used to use dining table but we got a new one and its simply only good for eating.

>>3026835
Meant to say table not tablet

>>3026836
figured lol

>>3026856
Yup lol ;_;

>>3026835
Get one made out of wood and draw with the grain it adds the tree's life force to your pencil marks.

>>3026909
Where?

>>3026519
This program is really fun for weird poses
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/atarichanDrawer.html

Where can I buy sketchbooks in bulk or really fucking cheap? Some anon llinked me once to a website where they were cheap as fuck but I didn't bookmark it.

>>3026806
There are lots of good traditional artists, theres nothing wrong with using pencil and paper.

>>3026979
beautiful. exactly the kind of thing i didnt know i wanted until now. thanks mate :)

>>3027097
alibaba?

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how much do you think a personal commission for a portrait like this should cost, realistically?

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Please no bully for a question as stupid as this, but is it really better to learn basic proportions before stylization or can you cheese it by just learning already stylized proportions?
I've been trying to experiment with them by copying other works for some time now and it's frustrating. I think I'm retarded.

>>3026661
you meming or do you actually want it?

>>3027144
I would argue that an understanding of realistic proportions will help you far more than learning someone else's stylized proportions. Once you have an understanding of what things are supposed to look like, breaking the rules and stylizing to your own preferences will be infinitely easier than relying on the proportions that are arbitrarily set by someone else.

Are guys better at art?

>>3027144
I find that copying other works helps with the stylized part. Meaning if you want to learn how proper anime style looks like, then copying other artists will help you. But if you want to learn proportions and how the body properly moves and looks like, you need to be doing figure studies of real people. You can do both at the same time btw.

>>3027396
Better than who?

where can I find full body pose reference? but with clothes on.

>>3023382
not the one who asked but i was looking for this one yep

>>3027143
If digital print, maybe $125 - $220?
If physical painting, maybe $400 - $800

How do I erase my pencil lines without lifting the ink from my pen lines?

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>>3022396
Is there a thread for posting designs of characters or environments? I notice that we have an animation thread, but no concept design thread. Most of the threads on /ic/ seem to be focused on drawing and illustration.

>>3027140
That chinky website? Don't they just sell clothes??

Not sure how should I ask this. When adding color to a drawing is it more effective to not have 'interior lines'?

Guys can you recommend me a good book to learn how to draw clothes?

are there any tutorials on drawing lips but in a line art style? They're easy to paint with shading but how do you make them look good with line art?

>>3027799
Depends, comic book artists for example use lines to define muscles and very basic colors and shading. Others render almost exclusively with paint and use lines as references only. It just depends on the aesthetic you are going for.

I want to get into painting and want to start with acrylics but have no idea about the material. Any brand recommendations? I'm german in case you know some good regional brands.
Any recommendations about other materials (like what kind of brushes I should get) are also welcome!

I remember reading that you shouldn't compromise with the quality of yellow since cheap yellows suck but maybe I got that wrong.

>>3027770
wait until the ink is dry

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I don't know if this counts as a request or whatever, but does anyone know of an artist or even a single image of a goo girl rendered realistically? Super glossy, nice and transparent looking? It's really frustrating looking for inspo but all the goo girls I find look super flat like pic related

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What would you recommend to get a decent following online?? Post in multiple places is the only thing im trying right now

>>3028487
>git gud
>be very active. post several times a week.
>fanart
>boobs

>>3028508
This; draw the tids

using a wacom intuos draw rn, i know it's not the best or anything, but it seems like it's a pretty standard beginner tablet, so i figured it'd be a good buy

but i keep running into problems with it, and i always end up just reinstalling the drivers to fix it, which seems kind of ridiculous, i've only had it a few months and i've had to reinstall the drivers 3-4 times now. anyone else have this problem/is there something i could be doing wrong?

I feel so fucking stupid not being able to grasp the concept of making clean lineart. Is there a simple tutorial for doing it in photoshop?

>>3028879
Really just practice and a bit of muscle memory. Digital has even your best friend Ctrl + z

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#1 I's Graffiti handstyle/cligrapry considered art here
#2 Thoughts on my Handy's
# 3 Anybody knows any good gligrapry books
I'm getting back into this & want to practice some glig to freshen up my penmanship.

Since I still haven't gotten an answer to this:

Why do artists that work with line art usually set it on a Multiply layer? Why not just lower the opacity? As far as I can tell, there's no difference in lowered-opacity Normal or Multiply layers on the base colors below...

>>3028739
what problems are you having that are making you straight reinstall your drivers? What operating system are you running?

is there anything on color theory that isn't just, "complimentary colors go good together"?


every time I look into it I find only a single useful nugget of information in every 2 hour video or book. is there anything more filtered?

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>>3028953
Gurney's Light and Colour book goes into a little more detail. At least into specific situations.

Most of it is just experimentation, man, fuck around with value and hue and see how you like it. There's no real right/wrong other than "make sure you like the final result" and "don't use the base colour mixed with black for a lower value because that looks like muddy shit".

>>3028909
Multiply layer darkens the line? Lowering opacity lightens it?

>>3028909
They want it to be the darkest I guess since Multiply just adds the layer colour on top of whatever is below. I don't use it though

>>3028962
Ah, so that way you ensure the line art will always be darker than the color below it. Thanks.

How do draw/design creatures with shitty anatomy?
Like a lot of games and books will have monsters and things that don't actually make any anatomical sense, how do you design these without coming off as completely retarded?

what's the difference between clip studio paint and manga studio?

>>3028987
Overall, about three words. They kept the "studio" bit in.

Although it's been called Manga Studio, Clip Studio and ComicStudio in lots since 2013, depending where it was marketed. It's just a name change, really. Manga Studio sounded dumb anyway.

>>3028968
honestly I'd say knowing what looks appealing.

I'd probably say your best bet is to break it down into its basic shapes and get something that looks good from that.

working on a good sillouete helps, knowing what basic shapes imply what.

try to make something with as little lines as possible.

What is the key to stippling?

>>3029038
As far as I can tell, squinting a lot. Remember that you're trying to simulate value (shades of grey), the more densely "dotted" the area, the darker it is.

>>3025413
Yeah it does hurt, proper bras help with that.

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How can I make it look good (face)

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>>3028909
There are a couple of reasons why you'd use multiply.
The biggest is, if they use or have any white or grey on the layer, setting it to multiply will make the white transparent - the calculations of Multiply will not show any white at all. I made a quick graphic to show how this works - the black lines and greyscale bar on the right is the exact same layer as the ones on the left - the left is set to Multiply, so no white shows. The one on the right is Opacity, and the white shows.
So, for instance, if you scanned some line art in, and set the layer as multiply, ONLY the black in that image will show. Or, if you corrected a line art layer with white, instead of erasing, or the layer is filled with white, with black lines.
Capiche?

>>3029301
Thanks anon, you should make more tutorials. Good stuff.

>>3029303
If I had time, I would. I've been studying for the Adobe Expert Certification, I know more about the program than I wanted to.

After I post something on Tumblr it doesn't show up in the "Recent" tab when I search up the tags. How do I fix that?

>>3029131
Is this a mashup of Jackie Chan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Data?

>>3028962
It doesn't add it, it actually multiplies it, thus "Multiply". It calculates every pixel of the later, according to a formula. It takes the pixel value of the Multiply layer, multiplies it by the pixel below it, and divides by 255. (Everything in Photoshop is a greyscale ramp from 0-255, 0 being black, 255 white.) The division removes any white from the image.

>>3029131
Texture. Skin has texture.

I watched a good video about portraits for oil the other day, that goes into it. You could easily apply it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuGWvmvK-3w&t=538s

>>3029301
I did, thanks famalu.

>>3029325
Loved the video and don't wanna badmouth the artist, but there's something bothering me in the portrait that I can't quite put my finger on. My best guess is it looks over-rendered, almost as a crutch to hide his weak, imprecise brushwork under it. Maybe it's the values that are too similar. Maybe I'm just too attached to guys like Sargent, who instead of trying to hide their brushwork to simulate reality (or a photo), gladly embrace the brushwork to create a sense of a "hyper-reality". I don't know what I'm talking about though, it's just what I feel looking at the final result.

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what muscles cause this shape when the back is compressed?

>>3029439
Pretty sure that's just skin folds, anon. The muscles on the back don't do that.

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>>3029444
it's the muscles that decide the shape of the fold, anon. Notice how the shadow goes up and round. I'm pretty sure it's the muscle at pic related.

>>3029439
The gap would be caused by the erector spinae

Would using pencil or paint improve my values?

Some tips on colors to show a bright sunny day the park? Also where's the reference thread?

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How do I stop defaulting to drawing lewd shit?

I have all these ideas for stories, comics, animations, etc. floating around in my head and want to build up my drawing skills to be able to bring them to life. It's something I've always wanted to do, but now whenever I go to draw it just ultimately ends up turning into soft porn or just general smut and I hate it. Has anyone else dealt with this?

I don't really have a daily routine, which I think would help. I've just been focusing on making sure I draw something every day.

>>3029755
Just stop or make a deal like, for every non-lewd thing you draw, draw a lewd thing.

>>3029570
Paint might be a little easier to get full range consistently. It depends. I would just go with what you want to do/see or what would be most fun for you.

>>3029755
Well, you could wait until you're older and it will naturally go away, or you could consciously stop looking at stuff that turns you on for about a month and try not to 'enjoy' yourself as often, try to go a day or two without in between at the very least.

Do that and you'll fall into a more natural rhythm. The amount of time you spend thinking about sex will dramatically drop, and you'll return to your natural state.

>>3029765
No, you don't understand. I've been doing this shit since I was 14. I'm almost 27 now. It's only gotten worse with age.

>>3029757
I've got a new sketchbook that I recently started using so I've decided to make it exclusively non-NSFW shit

>>3029818
No, I do understand. I was into porn even younger than that, and I'm 32. And I quit watching it entirely and did all the stuff I told you in the last post.

>>3029818
Unless you were misinterpreting 'wait until you're older' to mean like 30. I mean truly older, not 27.

>>3022396
are her eyes the whole sockets or does she just have a big skull?

>>3029836
>>3029832
Okay yeah, I read it like "Wait till ya graduate high school kid..."

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Is it possible to dither in MSpaint? (other than going in and drawing every fucking individual pixel)

Pic related, some 3AB comic. Either 3AB didn't actually use mspaint to draw this, or there's a dither brush for ms paint, or he was autistic enough to dither in perfect patterns

plz someone
Where is the best place to find a good prices on art supplies and sketchbooks? Michaels is a total rip off and I'm looking for something cheaper than dickblick.
I want like 10 sketchbooks at once and am shooting for only spending 25-30 dollars.
But I can't stand that flaky crap they sell sometimes with the knockoff brands.

>>3029885
I don't get this comic.

>>3029941
Endorphins man, they're crazy stuff.

>>3029941
its an example of the only time junkies are useful to society

>>3029885
That's just a pattern. You can create and paint with patterns. Dithering is something else. It's not painted, it's created when the bit-depth or color palette is reduced, like in a "save for web" function.

>>3029921
http://www.jerrysartarama.com/

That's about as cheap as you're going to get.
>But I can't stand that flaky crap they sell sometimes with the knockoff brands.
That's all you're going to find, at prices below Jerry's or Blick. A Strathmore 400 series (damned good paper) pad 8x10 at bulk pricing at Blick is $3 each. You're not going to find lower than that, without getting into dodgy shit.

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>>3029885
you get that in mspaint by saving as a monochrome bitmap, i don't know if you can change the mode directly.

>>3029667
Sunny scenes are all about crisp, unmuddied colors, bright highlights, and strong shadows. Learning to paint realism is practice, trial and error, and studying the colors in the scene - you have the best tool for it with a computer, you can use the eyedropper to look at the hues in a scene.
You might also want to study artists like Monet, he was all about light and color, and his pallette and paintings are a good way to see how to capture a sunlight garden.

>>3029998
well i mean, i'm pretty sure dithering is just the general term you use for that dotted pattern effect that you see a lot in pixel art

>>3030010
ahhhh excellent. thanks my man, just what I needed

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>>3029308
here's the ref

For cintiq users: how do you handle photoshop shortcuts? I've been using an intuos for 10 years and my free hand is usualy hovering over the keyboard for the probably tens of shortcuts and modifiers i need for a speedy workflow. I couldn't do that comfortably with a cintiq. Having to go through menus would break my flow.
I would apreciate any answer as I get much better line quality on a cintiq and would like to switch.

>>3022614
It doesn't bother me in the slightest, I actually love it when that happens. Then again I was taught at an art school where it was commonplace for the instructors to explain a process and show mistakes/how to fix them by doing paintovers (they'd ask permission first since it was traditional, but on an art board where someone is just going to do it digitally, why get upset?) Maybe I've been desensitized to it though.

It's my favorite kind of critique, though. A paintover means someone took the time and effort to think about what you were trying to do, the mistakes that were made, and is trying to show you how to fix your painting.

I get that critiques can strike a nerve with people who are new to it (especially the anons here) but if it's bugging you just remember someone's doing it to help you, and you can always choose what to take away from it and what to ignore. Also, get less attached to your art, and grow thicker skin if you're gonna hang around here.

>>3030229
Cintiqs have way more programmable shortcut buttons built in to them than intuos. If those aren't enough get a gaming keypad for your non-dominant hand and use that for shortcuts.
If you find yourself going through menus for things that are too complicated for a single shortcut , then you can use actions in photoshop to make your own. Check this out, it'll help with your workflow.
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/making-your-life-easier-actions

You can also use a program like sketchbook pro where all the menus are designed for tablet users.

>got diagnosed schizophrenic
>pills make me shaky
>only time I draw normal is in the morning before pills
>if I dont take the pills I think I am the creator of the world and drawing doesnt matter

what do? they perscribed me valium to counter the shakyness and paranoia but Im ironically afraid to take them

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>>3030416
this is the best I can do on the pills

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>>3030416
and this is what I did 3 days ago

sorry for shitty pics

>>3030416
Draw very large, the shakiness won't be as noticeable. And embrace chicken scratching, maybe use traditional paints to finish your work. Make it your style.

>>3030416
you either take valium or get other pills

>>3030009
There are strathmore sketch pads for 3 dollars each at Blick? That would be perfect but I don't know where you've found them (I can't see it on their website, it says they're 8 dollars each at least)

>>3030403
Thank you!

>>3030416
Draw large and light, and try to work clean - erase the hairy lines that happen but be real gentle with it, if you use a light touch and lots of layers of pencil plus a kneaded eraser, you can gently pick up graphite and clean up to your best ability as you go. It shouldn't matter too much when laying in tones. Just try focusing on draftsmanship

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>Want to be able to draw anything but most of all to be good at cartooning
>Get into anatomy course, actually getting a lot better fast
>The more into anatomy and realism I get the hardest is for me is to make cartoons and stylisation
HELP

>>3030549
Just draw from your imagination, and use what you're learned in gesture to help you with character design. Try doing symbol drawing now that you have an intimate understanding of your subject, then play with it and make it look good.

You can do this anon!

>>3030549
stylization is just exaggerating real-life drawings in different ways

also just download a bunch of different images from 4chan that have art styles that you like and just shamelessly copy their style to see how they do it

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What are some must knows for the greyscale workflow? I used multiply to add colors but the result lacks vibrancy and looks like a colorized photo.

>>3030823
Try turning the greyscale to a coloured layer, such as a dark blue

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>>3030823

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>>3030867

Does anyone have any good inking tutorials?

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How2save Photoshop brush guise?

I have a certain brush I like but there is a particular change I made in the preset settings that makes it even better, and I want to save change that as the same or as a new brush, quickly. The brush settings are confusing as fuck. How do I achieve this?

I updated my Wacom drivers and now I have to press exactly 5 times for my express keys to work (not all of them, just the ones I use for zoom in and zoom out, rest work fine). What the fuck did I do and how do I fix it? I always have a settings backup, so I already tried going back to the one I used before the update and it still doesn't work.

It's weird because it's not "sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't", it's exactly the fifth time I press it. Every time.

>>3031135
Call up wacom.

>>3031019
On the Brush Preset palette, click the menu icon on the upper right (it's 3 lines), and select "new brush preset". Name it. It will show up at the bottom of the brush menu.

I would highly recommend you get a book on Photoshop, and learn the interface. Deke McClelland's books are excellent. If you can afford it, the tutorials on Lynda.com are excellent (Deke does a lot of them). It's $25 a month for all you can watch, and you can buy a month at a time.

>>3030434
http://www.dickblick.com/products/strathmore-400-series-drawing-paper-pads/

8x10 pads, in bulk pricing.

I see plenty of Japanese artists who are bad at drawing but at least decent to even good at rendering.
Why do tons of artists with with awful anatomy or terrible line work but still do ok rendering?
Is rendering just easier then drawing?

>>3031154
yeah I would say drawing is significantly harder

>>3031154
Because rendering has a simplified process to it. Drawing is about understanding the thing which for example anatomy, you can't fake it. Rendering can be faked too, you just might not notice it.

>>3030229
There will be a transition phase for you, I had one, switching to a 24HD cintiq. The Express Keys are just enough to get work done, but I just bought a spare keyboard and keep it under the Cintiq. The Cintiq I have has a spare USB port, so I plug it into that.
I have my most frequently used tools set on my Express keys and wheel:
Left is Shift/Alt/Windows key/Function/spacebar (pan tool), the wheel is set for rotate/zoom (don't use the third), right is set for x (switch background/foreground), D (reset color tool to B&W), Select None, Redo/Undo, and the button on the mouse is Function (eyedropper when painting), erase. Anything else is set up through the radial menus Wacom gives you as a plug in, or I use the keyboard. I see a lot of people in studios and offices I've visited, they get small wireless keyboards and velcro them to the top edge of the Cintiq. I'm fine with one below the sidplay (I have my Cintiq on a dual monitor arm, I got rid of the Wacom boat anchor stand it came with.)

Check out the radial menus plug in from Wacom - it makes a huge difference, I can drill down all of the menus with it. It took a little trial and error setting it up, but I wouldn't use the Cintiq without them now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w61PeTcjWkc

>>3031150
Thanks dude! I have been using Photoshop for like 6 years, and about 4 for drawing. I honestly surprise myself struggling with new dumb stuff every time and discovering new things. I'll check out your recommendations.

Can anyone tell me where I can ask for someones critique in private?

>>3031184
Discord

>>3031187
Does /ic/ have discord?

>>3031190
It has many, join them all.

>>3031190
You can just join any tumblr artist circle jerk discord. They normally have a critique tag.

>>3031196
>>3031197

Can't seem to find /ic/ discord, do you two know?

>>3031231
Sticky has five discords, join them all.

>>3022396
how do I make a pdf out of multiple images?

>Exported RGB image to CMYK PDF
>Opened it up
>Colors weren't faded
>"What the fuck?"
>Opened it back up in Photoshop
>It's still RGB according to the little info bar at the top
>Different version of the same image correctly exported as CMYK and is listed as such
Why is this happening? Is it because the one that claims is RGB still has its original layer information? And I know about the color shift and all, I'm experimenting with some things so it's all intentional.

Any tips for simplifying/blocking out long hair? I guess also any tips for making hair feel realistic too? I can't tend to make hair seem like it's affected by gravity that much.

>>3031302
What app are you exporting from?
And, what color settings do you have set up for CMYK export? This will tell the app what color profile to convert to when processing a PDF. You set thing Color Settings, or in Bridge, in Color Settings, and share those settings out with all Adobe apps.
When you "Save As" and choose PDF, the "Save as PDF" Dialog box has a place to set for what color profile to convert the images to. Most likely you had RGB chosen there, because it overrides the "Save As" dialog.
PDF files won't include layer information. The color space is attached to the file like metadata, and is controlled by the Open and Save dialog - you can open an image and convert then (not recommended), or choose a profile, like North America SWOP 2.0 (standard for offset 4 color printing) when saving/exporting the image.
The only way for the image to retain the RGB color space is the PDF export options told the App to keep it.

>>3031239
Acrobat has a "Make file from multiple images" command.

>>3022396
I notice most stuff in the beginner threads and so on are pencil paper, so I was wondering if anyone has a good reference book for getting into watercolors?

>>3031986
Are you the guy that made the watercolour thread a while ago? I found Mastering the Water Colour Wash by Joe Garcia in the artbook thread before I think, might want to look into it and see if it helps you.

>>3031991
No I wasn't, but thanks for the information.

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So in /beg/ I see this perspective drawing of a cricket or whatever, what book is that exercise from? Don't have a pic :(

>>3032240
That's not an exercise, that's an anon's drawing. He used the draw through method of FZD to do it.

>>3032240
banana bird fantastic

Does gouache rehydrate the same way watercolor does?

IE if I fill a pan can I just apply water and go, or should I keep it in the tube?

>>3022979
I don't think that's too much of a bad thing, it's just that the norm is most people will find their niche and generally stick with that, or go through phases slowly etc. The thing about painting, drawing, and watercolor, or any other drawing medium, is that all the fundamental aspects of drawing still apply regardless. I think if you're worried about inconsistency in your work, the first area you'd want to inspect are your fundies, so things like proportions, lighting, and color. I think what you might find, is that while studying these aspects, it's a lot easier to do so when you stay in one medium. But, whether that's a good or a bad thing is for you to decide.

>>3032259
Yes, gouache can reactivate. Gouache is just watercolor paint with more dense pigment. I would still keep it in the tube though as much as possible.

But your active pallete you can keep and let it dry if you want.

>>3032244
>He used the draw through method of FZD

Sorry, can you be more specific? Love <3

>>3032302
Google "draw through method" and you'll see what I mean or even "FZD Homework"

>>3032259
Yes. You can use water, or if you want it like it came out of the tube, fresh, use gum of arabic, a drop or two at a time. Too much will make the guache shiny when it dries.

>>3023265
They have a sale that just started today, -60% off, so it's like 20$.

>>3028487
Is that fucking Mike?

Does English CSP get constant updates along with JP version? I have been using the pirated 1.63 JP version for some time now and thought to finally pay back after seeing the discount, but it looks like the English version hasn't been updated since 1.62, and the original doesn't get a discount.

>>3031239
There is a website where you can convert images to pdf and visa versa. Just google image to pdf converter.

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I get this little bumps on my strokes. How do I fix them?
Using Photoshop CC and an Intuos pro M

>>3033362
have you reinstalled the table?

>>3033382
Reinstalled the tablet drivers and tried using another version of phoyoshop. Same issue

I'm bored of drawing perspective everyday,I'm halfway through Scott's perspective book. Is it okay if i take a break and start studying figure drawing?
Also Hampton or Loomis for figure drawing?

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how do you ink like this?

What should I focus on to get better at not having so much distortion on my drawings? They always tend to look pretty rough when flipped but they are easy to fix, I just figure that takes time and I wish I could see my art correctly from the get go.

>>3033515
Hampton

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I'm really struggling with pricing my commissions. I'm currently doing character design commissions of D&D characters, but I can't tell if I'm overcharging or undercharging. Every time I start working on one, I underestimate how much time and brainpower it takes to design a character from scratch based on a text description, and by the end I feel like I'm not getting enough for it. However, whenever I'm about to give someone a quote based on their inquiry, I feel like I'm charging too much.
Can anyone give me a look and tell me if I'm charging too much or too little? These are some examples of designs I've done, 2 different styles and their respective prices.

>>3033735
How long does it take you to do each one?

>>3033781
I don't know exactly because I'm a fuckin idiot who keeps forgetting to time myself. I rarely sit down and do one start to finish so it's hard to time. I'm drawing a blank, but I'm going to say at least 5 hours for the top ones.

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Anybody know any books that will teach you to construct the head using perspective? Pic related, found it in /beg/

How does thirty minutes a day moving up to an hour of practice sound if I want to draw as a hobby and be pretty good at it?

Are there any websites good for practising gestures other than quickposes?

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Is there any reference site with animated poses and bodies in motion?
Basically, what I'm looking for is footage that can be used as reference for animation,
so I don't have to rely on shitty stock videos.

Any ideas?

Whats a good way to get more productive with your art practice or character design? I'd love to make comics someday, so I'm taking some courses and writing. But I quickly get burned out after an hour of work.

Ok, no bullshit. Let's say I have a bright sunny day scene, are shadows cooler than illuminated areas? Or vice-versa?

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How do you learn about different processes for digital? I watched some speedpaints but they go by so fast I think I'm still missing a lot. I can lifedraw and paint ok sometimes but I need a constant approach to give me some consistency and I'm not sure whether to work primarily with lines or tone, or what stages to use.

>>3034979
The warm comes from warm light and in shadows there's less light so yes they're cooler.

Okay this seems like a stupid question but:

Windows xp + SAI
OR
Ubuntu + Krita?