/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

>>3015645
wew

>>3015645
useless junk is right

>>3015645
Kek, I remember finding and posting this one here.

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What resources do you guys use to learn how to draw armor and clothing and how to design them? I am having trouble coming up with interesting designs.

i haven't drawn in two days, have i lost all my gains

>>3015688
what's stopping you from drawing right now

>>3015690

tekken 7

How does using cones, and boxes help me to draw a better raptor?

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>do a quarter decent job with the torso/limbs/head
>get to the hands/feet

>>3015696
finish it by putting their hands in their pockets and dedicate yourself to practicing just hands and feet so you don't embarrass yourself next time

>>3015703
They're naked.

>>3015705
You always draw the body before the clothes doofus

>>3015705
put their arms behind their back

>>3015696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGm_6toLL5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcIb5pn29dA

>>3015724
Where do I put the feet?

>>3015696
Cut a hole in the paper where the feet and hands should be.

>>3015693
Read the sticky

>>3015692
NGMI

>>3015731
well, you can hide one leg behind the other so you only have to draw one foot
if they're on their knees you can hide the feet behind them

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How do you practice poses like this? They're so casual yet convey attitude. Is it just matter of repeating gesture over and over?

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>>3015731
How about making the character jump and position their appendages behind their legs or conveniently placed hair? Or creating a tasteful shibari scene? Here, have a couple quick sketches that should convey how to do both ideas.

>>3014803

Please answer.

>>3015783
you are looking for illastrat. the best known artist to man.

>>3015786
Are you trolling? Pretty sure that's not who I'm looking for. Searching for "illastrat" on Youtube doesn't even return any results.

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>>3015748
Yes, and the concept of contrapposto
Basically, have the figure resting their weight more on one leg

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Im beg and cant do feet

>>3015783
Anthony Jones?
Alphonso Dunn?

>>3015803
Okay, thanks for the pic. I'll keep practicing that

>>3015783
Maybe reiq? He's not black, he's a dark indian though.

>>3015815
>>3015826
It was Alphonso Dunn. Ding ding ding ding ding! Congratulations!

Thanks bros

>>3015833
You'd look cuter with shorter hair

>>3015833
>>3015809
Not to be rude, but there's way too much stuff wrong. Learn the basics, and after you get comfortable with them, try again.

>>3015838
Ive been told this but I like it

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>>3015682
Just go on /tg/, they dump armour art all the time. For clothing i brows the fashion section of tumbler, so many cute girls wearing cute things

>>3015854
there's also a billion fashion blogs ranging from pretty normal street fashion to harajuku

https://twitter.com/tokyofashion is one of my favs

>>3015708
This is my Achilles heel, i always am so impressed with myself i don't want to dress them up after. I have to come back a week or two after when i hate the drawing and cover it up

>>3015867
clothes are cute, draw a girl and put her in a cute overall top dress or a pleated skirt and a hoodie or something

>>3015852
I have doubts whether you have a penis or not with those pictures

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Drew this for a girl that likes me haha

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And this one i did chibi versions of me and my sis

>>3015880
ever draw porn of her?

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>>3015870
I have been saving WIPs as I draw clothing so I can undress them in photo shop later. Thats what works for me

>>3015886
Weird but you do you Anon, it seems to be working.

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Can you do better than Terr?

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I think I improved a little

>>3015933
No

>>3015936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUUWg4cW9jE

Me neither. He's surprisingly very good

>>3015940
did he read loomis?

What do you draw when You don't know what to draw or how to do it?

>>3015949
draw from life until you learn to construct things properly

>>3015935
I think you should use some reference next time.

>>3015935
truckasaurus fucking a ballpit of grenades

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Okay, first time I post my work.

I've been drawing for about 3 months, practicing a lot, before that I never drew in my life. This is where I am at right now.

This took me near 2 hours. I hate how much easier it is to spot proportion errors once you take a picture of it. Makes me look dumb.

It's the black girl from last /beg/ thread. Please penetrate me with lube. If someone could also tell me how to quote a post from another thread I'd be grateful, been in 4chan for about 6 years and never learned.

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>>3015951
Drew my can of cider.
Whaddoya think?

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>>3015638
So i posted in the last thread asking how perspective works. I've watched some videos and im guessing this is sort of the right idea now.

This is called one point perspective I think..

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>>3015965
This was me before I started learning. I guess I made some progress but I still feel like shit whenever I try to finish a drawing, so I keep just doing drills and exercises.

>>3015966
The top end seems off.

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>>3015854
>>3015859
Sweet, thanks. will try those places out.

Here's another drawing. Practicing poses and armor design mostly.

Does anyone else use a ruler on your Wacom tablet to help you draw straight lines? Am I hopelessly retarded?

>inb4 line tool.
The ruler works better because I have a better idea of that angle the line will be

>>3015976
that's fucking gay dude

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Would you believe my teacher gave me an A for this in my digital painting class?

>>3015979
who gives a shit? do you think anyone is going to hire you for an art career based on your GPA rather than your portfolio?

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>>3015970
How about now?

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just fucking wreck me bro

>>3015993
You have potential

How does the OP of these threads select what image to use for the next thread?

>>3016002
its random. usually i try to stick to something with color (sometimes)_

>>3016003
Are you a beginner as well?

>>3015991
>tfw have a can next to me
It's straight on.

>>3016003
>>3016002
also i never choose anyone who clearly isn't /beg/ level but then again don't choose an absolute/beg/

>>3016004
ive been told to leave but i still post here because its my home

How do you finalise a project?
I can only get as far as colouring a little bit of shading but after that there's a lot that seems off.

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>>3015644

I can't use head construction on photos like these. It always ends up wrong.

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hey /ic/, just did 10 fig drawings, am on the 4 week of the Vilppu figure drawing course, how am I doing? Any critique?

Thanks!

>>3016011
Ask someone what's off and fix it.

>>3016021
The course seems to be working.
Also the shoulders seem really wide on most of these.

>>3016021
Looks better than my figures, make me wanna do the course too. How many shekels?

>>3016024
Thanks!! I'll look out for it next time I practice.

>>3015969
nice progress keep up the practicing!

>>3016026
I don't know, I'm just a poorfag from Brazil. I got it from cgpeers.

>>3016029
I sincerely thank you senpai

>>3015982

Absolutely. Your portfolio means squat. It's all about getting a high GPA in a prestigious Liberal Arts College, especially an expensive one.

>>3015965
Just a question from a /beg/ to a /beg/: What books are you working through? I feel like I've hit a wall with Loomis and Draw a Box that can't be completely fixed until I git gud with sight drawing and pencil control.

>>3016032
your eyes always freak me out

>>3015966
extremely flat, give it more depth

>>3015993
its very toony so its hard to critique
but it doesnt look like a girl
the hands and breasts are really bad
and the ears are way too low

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what's a better investment drawing pad or scanner?

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Grew up drawing traditionally, switched to digital, now I'm trying to re-learn how to draw traditionally since I enjoy it more.

What sort of pencil should I look at? Something mechanical preferably, so I don't have to buy a new one every other week.

>>3015818

input please

>>3016092
tablet is better investment because you wont need to buy pencils paper paint ink etc. anymore

>>3016066
Almost no book desu, but I'm gonna buy Drawing With The Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards.

What I practice the most is figure drawing, just copying cute nude gurls. I don't fully understand Loomis yet but I'm kinda grasping it, though I don't necessarily want Loomis specific model. I'm trying to draw a circle and then a T on it and be able to see a face, and I'm getting to that point. And by Loomis I mean the very basic draw a round circle add T, jaw and build face, that's all I got from his book, couldn't keep going cause I didn't understand it at the moment.

One exercise that I've been doing lately that helps my pulse is to draw a circle, and slowly circle on top. I press stronger, then softer, and keep doing the circle on top of itself. Faster, then slower too. Then backwards. And the same with a square and a triangle. That has really helped me, and practicing with pen to get rid of chicken scratches.

>>3016095
You my friend can get the fuck out of beg and into the draw threads.

>>3015818
the shoulders are raised while the head is facing down, it makes a very stiff and uncomfortable pose,
just try to make it look more relaxed

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should i be trying to actually draw the reference or just draw it in my own style?

>>3016113
Feel free to draw it in your own style, but don't post it in this thread. "Muh style" isn't good for gains.

In general only post shit that you want to be criticized on here.

>>3016110
It's a beginner question. If I asked it in a draw thread they'd tell me to post it in /beg/.

If you don't know the answer that's fine but there's no need to be rude.

>>3016117
He was complimenting you...

>>3016119
Why? The picture isn't mine. It's just an example of the sort of thing I'd like to be able to do with pencil.

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>>3016117
he's saying that because of the picture you posted, next time post a pic like this

>>3016121
Do you know the answer to the question though?

>>3016120
>>3016117
I thought it was your drawing, tard. So I take it back. There's also a question thread anyway. I don't know about mechanical pencils, I use the normal ones.

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Finally actually looked at the sticky and made this with its help.

>>3016149
Hey I think that's pretty good anon. It's nice that you drew the head at different angles. Also your proportions seem okay to me. The pose seems rather awkward though.

>>3016032
Your edges man. Your pictures are always blurry. You can define the features better, even if you're going for a speed paint. It might be easier to paint starting with clear edges than to start messy and clean up.

>>3016149
do more studies

and i mean a lot more, you're still symbol drawing (it's not your style, you don't have an understanding)

>>3016194
What does "symbol drawing mean"? got any examples

and I'll try my best on doing some more studies.

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reading steve hustons figure drawing for artists which isnt a super precise book.
looking for any big glaring errors here, thanks

>>3016200
Instead of drawing something as is, or as you see it, you draw it using simplistic symbols that represent said thing.

;-) = Isn't a face. It's a symbol. This is an exaggerated example, but if you were to draw a picture or from life without your eyes being on the subject at minimum 50% of the time, you're just symbol drawing on memorized locations.

The idea for us beginners is to "do more studies", as in draw a lot of faces and bodies and hands and foots and everything FROM REFERENCE, and amplify our visual library before drawing from imagination.

Once you understand exactly what a nose is, its different shapes and proportions, how it reacts to light, etc, only then you should simplify that nose into symbols to adjust to your style. Same with every body part.

That's how I understand it, anyway. You should draw things as you see, and your drawing is not detailed enough to look realistic. If you are not using a reference, why not? And how could anyone possible give you critique if you can just say "It's my style bro I draw them with small shoulders, triangled biceps and funky foreshortening"? That's why most people that get critique here or seek for critique do studies.

>>3016149
hand should be far enough down to pass hip if arm is str8

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>>3016200
Keep this in mind when you do your studies.

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Staedtler sells some, there might be refill

http://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Design-Stationery/Staedtler-Marsmicro-Mechanical------Pencil-0.5mm-Hb-Blistercard-With-Free-Leads-prcode-997-462?p=gs&gclid=CjwKEAjwjunJBRDzl6iCpoKS4G0SJACJAx-V6-XiwiyXkaq-0MtnpsApY2pQNne7nAWEnP_FRGnM0xoCv2Xw_wcB

Pentel also supply mechanical pencils. I've used one and they're alright, as pic related is drawn with it. It's more of a question of line quality (you could make it work probably better than I did)

http://www.postofficeshop.co.uk/pencils-and-refill-leads/pentel/120-auto-pencil-pe04800/?gclid=CjwKEAjwjunJBRDzl6iCpoKS4G0SJACJAx-Vu8wmuA3ovDTRGLpwGxL4gWD99Q3rV5jdGvczXjlPKhoCh1rw_wcB

Other good mechanical pencils are those produced by Korean Airways and Faber Castell. If you want to play it safe, buy a Faber Castell mechanical pencil

>>3016255
>>3016095

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reposting in this thread
>>3013034
I think this looks kind of neat, but I wasn't trying to make a scary marble man.
a) How do I blend better?
b) Any thing else I should focus on/prioritize first?

>>3014589
just end my life

>>3016255
you really need to push your necks forward

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>>3016268
Why am I better when I'm just dicking around with a pencil? I try to actually draw anything and it all comes out like the first shit...

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FORGIVE ME SCIENCE!

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I don't mind harsh criticism.

>>3016293
Because all you've done up to now is dicking around.

>>3016293
>and
Because you're too tense when you're trying to draw good. You're soo focused on not making any mistakes and getting it right the fight time you mess up!
Just loosen up, do some small thumbnail sketches of the subject before moving on to the actual thing and don't expect to see an amazing drawing just appear.
Just do the best you can, draw lightly at first don't commit to anything yet, change what must be changed untill you get something you're comfortable with. And if it still looks wrong, draw it again.

>>3016312
blog?

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The photo is kind of shitty but what do you think?

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two different collabs i did in drawpile with two different guys. drawing realtime with other people on the same drawing is absolutely unreal, you create something you would have never made otherwise.

>>3015705
then try putting their hands inside their sides

>>3015993
I like that black outline, but you gotta keep it clean and steady. Also another way to make simple images pop would be focusing on colour and shadows. Since your drawing has a light colour scheme, maybe true re-colouring it in a pastel scheme and see how it turns out.

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>>3016341
forgot pic

>>3016268
How does this even happen, man? You can do better.

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I'm actually the guy who posted this pic last thread, and sadly I have yet to receive any comment on it.

I'm really looking for pointers regarding the anatomy, because I feel I fucked up somewhere.

This is taking me weeks. How do I draw faster?

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>>3016360
fuck

>>3015818
Learn to incorporate gesture into your drawings, it will make your poses less stiff and more natural.

>>3016360
>>3016361
Le impressionism, i. e. don't try to be perfect, draw bolder.
Or use simpler subjects. It's pretty much normal when a picture takes you weeks to complete if you have little free time on your hands. Just drop it at once when you start to question yourself why are you even polishing it, or you'll be stuck forever.

>>3016267
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOLh8o5PtZYr4KYq3yIkUXXnaiU3n6fi-FZMJ4-gqCc/edit

>>3016368
it's actually something that I promised to draw before a certain date or else I will kill myself

>>3016361
wew 1600x1200, fucking make the canvas bigger next time.

>>3016382
this is my first time using this program, is it possible to change the canvas size?

>>3016375
Promised to whom? If you promised it to yourself, don't be an idiot; you'll break this kind of promise sooner or later, and you first would be crushed and really wanting to kill/hurt yourself, but then you would be granted a strange sense of freedom from one of your chains. It happens if you have OCR, and it's the best kind of cure from it.
If you promised it to somebody else, just sit at the computer and work, work, work on it all the free time you have without stopping to browse 4chan or to do other time-consuming activities. Before you know it, the painting would be completed.

>>3016387
Image > Resize Canvas
or
Image > Scale Image To New Size

also I agree, you should probably work on a much larger resolution, and if needed scale down later - this will allow you to work faster, since things don't have to be pixel perfect.

>>3016389
>> OCR
Lol. OCD, I mean. I always tend to forget that it's a "Disorder" in English.

>>3016392
Thanks for the tip. I thought that I would save more time by scaling down the object(I scaled it down too early) but it just ended up being more of a pain in the ass
>>3016389
>free time you have without stopping to browse 4chan
this is probably the main reason why my progress is so slow

>>3016361
Are you by any chance trying to pull this out of your ass(aka from memory)?

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>>3016403
Of course not

anyone have a working link to the discord? sticky's is outdated

>>3016359
First things first, I can't tell what she is doing. Is she falling? Is she reaching for something? The posture needs more exaggeration.

It seems like you do have a basic grasp on volume, but lack the sense of foreshortening.

Also, her eyes are too close together. Her neck is too thick. Her feet are flat and one is smaller.

>>3016214
Tnx for explaining it, you right I shoudn't hide behind my "style" just to be lazy.
>>3016219
dang, that usefull, tnx.

So I've been trying Loomis. The funny faces at the start we're all indeed "fun with a pencil" and I didn't have much problem with them. But then when I got to page 31 where he starts adding new types of shapes to create "realistic" faces.
I'm having a lot of trouble with this because this step is poorly explain. How do I know which shapes to place where? How do I draw these shapes correctly?

>>3016466

Supplement your loomis with drawabox and "Perspective made easy". Those do a good job of teaching how to place shapes in 3D space. It mostly consists of basic cubes, but it's still good for the experience.

>>3016466
Post drawing.

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I guess a lot of people are using weeb studio paint here, how do I get rid of/avoid generating these scrappy leftover bits from the eraser? Even when set to MAXIMUM HARDNESS it still leaves these smudgy marks.

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Hey /ic/, I've been doing the Scott Eaton's anatomy course and am on week 3 right now, I understand where all the muscles up until now originate, their names and connections.

But how does this help me draw? How do you suggest I practice this knowledge alongside the exercises which are only like "find this muscle on this photo".

I was thinking about getting a master artist on anatomy and doing what they call "master studies", study what another guy did about anatomy and did well on a drawing.

To be honest I'm clueless, anyone with significant knowledge and mileage on anatomy to help?

>>3016517
You learn at least basic anatomy so you know how to draw a character doing something other than t-posing.

Do you know what the shoulder does when you raise your arm? Or do you just have it swivel around in a socket like a jointed doll?

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>>3016520
My guess is that the musculature connected to the scapula will contract, the scapula itself will move, middle deltoid will contract as well.

But you're right, alongside knowing what they are and where they connect I should know which muscles are responsible for which movement...

So to practice seeing that, draw a lot of anatomy poses and figure drawing (10min+)?

>>3016525
Yeah, having a basic idea of where they are and how they connect to each other.

If you want to simplify then Kienan has a pretty good video on that.

https://youtu.be/JeluYdgfltY?t=2m47s

>>3016509
I think if you mess around with the threshold it would get rid of it

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>>3016530
Thanks! I'm already watching all his videos, but there are so many that I'm taking my time with them, I'll take note of his anatomy videos.

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Anything i should pay mind to here?

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>>3015643

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I was going to post something but it seems most posts asking for crits get ignored here.

Where's the line between "read the sticky" and "get out of /beg/" and "get out of /beg/" and "go back to /beg/"

>>3016509
I think CSP has a filter specifically for that, but I never even tried to test it.

>>3016600
Post it, I might help you if it's not something disgusting and if it's something I can help with. I suffer from the same problem, so I know how frustrating it is.

>>3016600
I post my stuff here but i'm way too shit to give out any crits. I don't want to risk giving crits that are actually detrimental to someone.

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>>3016607
Alright, here it is.

>>3016606
Absolute beginners are told to read the sticky
Beginners are told to go back here
Entry-level intermediate artists are told to get out

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how's this?

>>3016614
What makes an entry-level intermediate artist?

Someone whose work could be passable for low-budget concept art and the likes?

>>3016617
The way I see it
Novice - Has never drawn in his life
Beginner - Wants to improve and mostly practices fundamentals, still fundamentally bad (symbol drawing, bad perspective, etc)
Intermediate - Knows and understands the fundamentals but still can't implement them completely and has a long way to go in creating and forming a style
Advanced - The fundamentals are down and the artist is looking to find his style, the thing that should concern an advanced artist it's the find of the thing that makes his art his
Master - The artist it's unchained of fundamental skill and now can use them at will, has found his style and can draw as he wishes while leaving a mark that this is indeed his work, recognizable and unique.

We all have to make it anon.

>>3016032
ayy lmao

>>3016623
im going to make it to my personal goal

>>3016616
Very, very bad.

>>3016616
The horns are kinda cute, bad everything else

>>3016613
>next post gets two replies while mine gets none

Well I guess I can go fuck myself then

>>3016639
Well most people who come here are beginners too. Like I think the neck is fucked up but I don't have the ability to articulate what exactly is wrong with it.

>>3016613
I'm shit, but if i had to critique, i would say the most glaring thing is the fact that the backside of the neck is too away from the ears, as >>3016642
said.

Also, you might want to do lineart by tracing to lose the chickenscratching, especially on the body.

>>3016639
Thought she was wearing a beanie.
The left part of the glasses looks like it's nearly hugging the face making it look like a bandit mask.

>>3016642
>>3016646
>>3016649
Alright, thanks.

>>3016600
If you're not pleased with the amount of crits there are here, then provide some yourself too.

>>3016609
You can still post what you like and what you don't like about, perhaps if you feel like a pose you see looks unnatural. You might not be able to say how to fix it, but you can still point things out.

>>3016613
Ugh, sorry, I totally forgot about it over continuing my translation of a certain article on Japanese gardening.

Anyway, faces aren't actually that round, so the far side needs to be bigger. Besides, if she actually needs those glasses to see things properly, they would distort her face outlines (or, to be precise, shift them). You need to clean up some of the lines as well, mostly at her sweater, and you need to be more careful about showing the hair texture. The sweater is not showing the shape enough, you need to apply shading and better curves to it as well. There is also little reason for her far twintail to be so far back while the closer one doesn't even reach the shoulder, even if she is tilting her head to the side. Reduce the shown amount. And her mouth might be a little off... no, it IS shifted off-axis to her right cheek (the closer one). Oh, and the neck is too straight and looks manly, make it curvier.

I think that's all.

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critique please

>>3016670
How'd you draw those clouds? Or is it a picture?

>>3016670
Clouds are good but kinda flat looking, rest is meh.

>>3016668
Thanks for the in depth crits, my man. I appreciate it

>>3016670

looks unfinished

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Am i a bad artist. Can I use color correctly? Do my lines look nice? What am i lacking? How can I improve ?
Will post more pics.

Im not talking about my actual concepts tho. Dont be like that dont look like an animal i know of!!

Also this image was made fully out of using soft pastels as paint.

>>3016684

torso is too long, head is too small

>>3016670
I must say, that's quite artistic and admirable even now. The asymmetry of the top part of the obelisk is a nice touch that makes it look interesteing.

>>3016687

nah, that wasn't intentional. that's a mistake

>>3016686
Its meant to have a long torso and short head.
What else.

>>3016684
color choices are nice, technique is sloppy

linework looks "ok" since it's done so thick but your linework would probably be very weak if you had to do thin lines

proportions aren't very good, head is pretty small, body is long for a dog, okay for a ferret, hind legs are huge, can't really tell here it's joints are, legs just go right into the paws

The linework and coloring makes it hard to tell what kind of texture it's supposed to have.

>>3016684
Check out deviantart buddy, you'll be right at home there.

>>3016693
Not that guy but why is DA bad?

Where should I be posting my art? I've been told Tumblr but I've also been told that place is shit too

>>3016689
Even so, it is a nice, if accidental, touch that makes it look interesteing. And interesting too.

>>3016692
It had its legs tucked up like as if a dog was lying down. Long body cause it lives in space and uses long body to glide like a snake and paws to move in different directions. Head small so its just easier to move.
Not too good at panting yet. Was worried line art would be too thick in some places. Just used the same sized brush.

>>3016702
Why would it's legs be tucked up like it's laying on ground if it's in a vacuum?

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Next pic. Not colored tho. Wanna do it digitally so i can get good shades and color choices and shite.

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>>3016698
>It looks interesting. And interesting too.

>>3016704
Cause is gliding that or the legs would be going backwards or something.

>>3016709
I do not think you know how space works.

>>3016530
I really liked this video. He doesn't seem to have many others like it though.
Are there any other people that make similar anatomy videos?

>>3016711
You can try his videos with basic/basics in the title if you haven't already.

I haven't delved too deep into people who make videos on drawing but he's my favorite.

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>>3016710
Nope. But i dont think it would look like its walking. I have some that have no hind legs just tails.

>>3016709
there's no gravity, it'd have to work extra muscles to tuck itself in

Also there's no friction in space so it's not like it needs to worry about aerodynamics

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I'm a surrealist/expressionist. this is something I drew 6 years ago. want moar ?

>>3016722
Oh.
The more dragon one dont have legs. Just feet paddles. I think its cute. I still think they cute even if i know fuck all about space.

>>3016684
1) Stop finding excuses
2) Practice form and perspective
3) Learn doggy anatomy

>>3016696
That anon was being a dick, don't mind him. DA is in my opinion one of the better sites to have your drawings displayed. Unlike tumblr your can display pieces you especially like, sort them in folders and so on. It's definitely easier to access and manage. Tumblr is more popular though. Just post on both platforms.
Once you're better known or if your goal is not primarily an internet audience but applying to publishers, galleries or companies you will definitely want to have your own portfolio website.

Good luck and have fun.

>>3016724
Well it also gives you more freedom to have a looser posture, it looks more like it's about to pounce. If you're going for a feeling of sailing through space like it's on water look up some references of boats or aquatic animals and how they move through water.

They might look graceful and still from a top view but if you can see below or under them their legs would be moving or hanging down.

You have cute concepts but you should think about consistency and how you'd want it to work. You need to think about how your drawings "read" to other people. If you want people to think it's paddling through the sea of space then have it be paddling

>>3016579
please /b/ros

>>3016095
draw with pen

>>3016671
Cloud Brushes
https://www.cgpeers.com/torrents.php?action=download&id=52567&authkey=2a77457f95a54c5987de49ed7630dd69&torrent_pass=73qp0n397ex14xkw15ba7yfg9ld68vtu

>>3016680

because it is, anon. I need to do reshape the mountains a bit and add good texture, but gotta do several studies for that

>>3016689
actually it wasn't a mistake. I have old skyscraper design/drawing that has the same asymmetrical top. at first it was accident, but seemed good enough

>>3016670
value on the foreground seems off, seems like it should be darker or brighter depending on where the sun is coming from, going by the background I'd say darker

>>3016113
work on your line work muh dude

>>3016268
>digital was a mistake

>>3016359

did you start off with a painting or did you have a drawing underneath it? if it's a straight up paint, i'd work on the form of the breasts specifically the way you have the right one sort of just floating and defying gravity. Then there's the torso. it's too straight. and the neck area/collar area is not very readable

>>3016616
incredibly flat I recommend this book

>vilppu - "Figure Drawing"

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>>3016734
I dont think when i start drawing and get more of a feel what ot is and does when its finshed. That might be my problem

>>3016359
Body looks twisted odd and the arm up looks way longer than the arm down and closer to viewer

>>3016613

Oh dear.

1. For the hair, i see that you've defined each strand but it's lacking in volume and flow, though the hair around the right side of her neck looks good.

2. the left side of her face looks very unreadable.

3. Try drawing the figure underneath next time. also draw through the figure because the left should and arm subsequently looks like a stub more so than someone who has their arms around their back

4. your lines are shit

>>3016359
Ill see whetey it fits more by drawing a curved line from the closer hand to the other one

>>3015876
>>3015880
Cute! You have a good eye for making chibis, my advice is to be more confident in your inking. The faster your make a line the more smooth it'll be and having stronger lineart will make your art even better. Best of luck!

>>3016765
Not them but somewhat related.

The really well respected courses for this sort of thing tends to have a heavy focus on shading techniques, usually graphite shading in particular. But what if I just want to focus on linework? Is it unreasonable to focus on learning by doing linework? Or am I just making it harder for myself in the long run?

>>3016358
>>3016357
>>3016356
Do these drawings justice and get yourself some real art markers/learn to color with markers.

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>>3016706

>>3016781
You're not wrong but that shit's expensive. You could get a hobbyist tablet for the price of like 4 copics and a professional one for a set of 24

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been drawing for like 6 months, already wanna make a web comic or sth :l

any tips to learn how to tell stories, improve at plots and stuff?

also tips to be better at construction xd

>>3016793
that's pretty great for 6 months good job

For visual storytelling this book is often considered the gold standard for composition

https://www.amazon.com/Framed-Ink-Drawing-Composition-Storytellers/dp/1933492953

For pure writing the trick is to write a lot and read a lot, people tend to respond well to consistency and sincerity. Try reading a lot of comics and seeing how they push the story forward, or you can just do some silly gag comics if you prefer.

>>3016797
thanks man!

also is there a way to not write the whole plot. for instance represent it in a flow chart and fill the holes while doing the comic ?

>>3016800
Well for any kind of writing other than flow of consciousness where you want consistency you'd write a broad outline first of all.

I imagine there's a lot of ways you could go about writing a comic, some people do script first, some do storyboards, in film you'd have both.

I know there's script writing programs out there and I'm sure at least one has the kind of visualization tool you're looking for. Otherwise you can just get a big whiteboard or something

>>3016684
>>3016690
This is exactly how not to receive critique. How the fuck are people supposed to help you when your extremely disproportional simple drawing is justified in "its muuh style".

I think it's better to ignore this kind of posters and just critique actual studies. No one can help you, and you will not get better if you just "do your style". Most artists that find a style do so after years of extensive practice and improvement of their art.

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trying a different approach to studyin. I wasn't confident enough to go right in with the planes at first and reverted to just copying the reference a little bit, but I cut that shit out later on. Hoping that if I keep at it like this I'll lose that habbit

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>>3016845
ref

Could someone possibly indulge on how to draw a 3d raptor consistently?

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>>3016793
Try to construct with more angular forms instead of mostly spheres.
It helps to create a better looking design, and the angles serve as landmarks

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my .psd file fucking broke and the statue thread died in the one day i gave myself a break, so here is the most recent pic i saved from it.

>>3016863
thanks for the tip man!

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Lost. Probably chose too challenging of a ref for my first environment painting

how are you supposed to finish a study? I keep checking after I draw a little, realise how fucked it is, erase it and do it again, check it and realise how fucked it is ad infinitum.

>>3016896
looks like an assplosion. maybe potential?

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>>3016896
Your attempt looks pretty interesting even as a failure.

Next time, you could try analyzing the values of the ref. Ignore all detail (any subtle change in value) and try to block in the scene with only a few different values.
Use a hard brush for this first step.

I tried with this ref, but it's clear that I need some practice too.

>>3016944
I had tried that but you can't tell because I just floundered around for like an hour. I'll keep that in mind tho! Trees intimidate me.

>>3016928
There's not much point in finishing a study, unless you're practicing rendering
Just go into a study with a specific goal, and you will know where to stop.

>>3016583

Did you edit it in photoshop? I can barely see shit. Just snap a photo of your paper in a well lit room.

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>>3016952
> I just floundered around for like an hour
Yeah, that's a common issue. When that happens, you need to compare your drawing to your original value plan and adjust accordingly.
Always keep the overall values in mind and step back to look at your work periodically.

With trees, just think of them as blobs of color. They don't deserve any more detail than you're willing to give them.

>>3016579

Build up your values. Take a step back and squint your eye at the ref. See the dark and light areas? (it might be easier if you desaturate the image first.) Roughly put those in first. Don't start with really bright white or dark darks. If you go that intense it's a hassle to tone it down. Of course if you're familiar with the software it's easy. Still, start with lower value and slowly build it up. Better not rely too much on the software.

Don't start detailing right away. Just put values all over and start refining it bit by bit. Don't focus on one area too long. BIG to small. Start with the big patches then slowly move in and work on the small details.

>>3016962
thanks mate, this is what i needed

had no idea how to put a painting together, just did what my heart wanted. cheers!

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>>3016973

>>3016963
Check the length of your joints, man, especially with the thumbs. And start gradually drawing human hands instead of simple robotic constructions. You know, natural wrinkles and creases, values and all that shit.

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>>3016684
Terrible, absolutely terrible
You made the peen too small, the front arm isn't fucked up enough, the creature looks like it still has faith in humanity.

You're lucky I stumbled across this to give you some pointers.

>>3017002
>> tfw it is actually better if you try not to look at the head
I'm proud of you, son.

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I drew for like five minutes and my drawing arm got incredibly tired, I am literally shaking right now and can barely go on, what the fuck this didn't happen before I took my three month break

>>3017002

That thing's going to break it's spine when it moves.

>>3017071
A small mercy

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Did I do good?
I'm not trying to be edgy by drawing Hitler, I just thought it would make good practice and I wouldn't feel too bad if I fucked it up.

>>3017043
How does your hand get tired from drawing? Did you gain 20 stone while you were on break? Cause that might explain it

>>3017109
fight me
>>3016579

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>>3015643

>>3017124
hi tumblr

>>3017128
>constructive

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I decided to practice some human figure out of memory, how is this looking so far?

I'm also looking for tips for arms and legs, specially calves, not matter how much I practice legs I never get that shape right.

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>>3017125
I don't know how to shade send help

>>3017132
pelvis is a bit low and narrow isn't it?

>>3017143
For 7 heads tall? I think you're right, let me fix some things.

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Roast me.

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>>3017130
sure, then.

I'm not sure what you were going for here, and you have to be honest with yourself. were you going for a cartoonized stylization or a realistic reproduction of the picture?

Either way, the model's likeness is not present in your rendition. she lost her deadpan look, acquired a hook nose and big cheekbones. nor the face and the head look anything like the original picture, is what i'm saying. Seems like you made her "ethnicky" just because she had a headscarf on, which is why i called tumblr.

If you just said fuck it and made your own thing only using the picture as a base reference, then ignore what i said so far, but don't be one of those "hey it's my style" cunts if you didn't. The drapery looks rather nice, but i'm not a fan of the scribbles on her left arm. In fact, try to use more confident lines for most of the linework so they lose the scribble aspect.

>>3017150
this is my DnD character btw.
First time rolling one up, decided to draw him.
Been drawing for a week now.

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>>3015644

I tried...

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tiny doodle I made, tried to do more with the fundamentals. Upper guy looks kinda awkward.

Tips?

>>3017169
Learn anatomy

>>3017169
I don't know if it's just me but they seem kinda stiff.

>>3017169
bottom guy's legs are too short. overall everything is very scratchy. try using smoother lines.
also this>>3017171

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Something I just drew. Whaddoya think?

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What is fucking me up?

3/4 is completely fucked head to toe

>>3017212
use a centerline and stick to it

>>3017206
symbol drawing / 10

sort out your lines

also a good portion of the top of his skull is missing

>>3017169

learn figure drawing in general, but no matter what you do you're so beginner that just drawing a lot will get you results.

>>3017158

not bad, but get in the habit of actually finishing things

>>3017215
thats not the problem

>>3017231
but it is A problem

>>3017234
ignoring the mass distribution and leaning, the centerline is mostly respected. Youre leading in the wrong direction imo.

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>>3017240
What's the problem then?

>>3017132
Neck is too short, groin area doesn't seem right

>>3017150
torso is misaligned with the legs, he looks off balance
>>3017169
bottom guy's legs are way too short, top guy is holding the spear in a very awkward fashion. You need to work on linework, way too much chickenscratch
>>3017206
you got the same problem, hair lines. Also the nose doesn't have any sensible shape at all, it's completely vertical

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>>3015638
So I'm now on week 5 of the Vilppu figure drawing course. I'm clueless about conveying value and shape with hatching, any ideas how to get better at this?

I'm thinking about doing Constructive Anatomy from Bridgman at the same time and study his drawings (re-do all of the 500 drawings of that book).

Any critique?

>>3017273
Damn son it looks like she is as hairy as an orangutan. You overdid it.

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>>3017291
you mean, when you do this you should convey only some areas? which areas?

how do I get to this level :(

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Critique please. I know the face and hands are kinda fucked.

>>3017315
take this with a grain of salt, I'm also a beg.

I think most of it is alright, just that the pose feels stiff for me at least.

>>3017254
i was trying to get out of writing it, but long story short, a bit of proportional problems, a bit of misunderstood anatomy (pic related mouse red) and bit of perspective mistakes (feet, lower leg proportion). To top it off is a bit of symbol drawing (eyes,nose, mouth)

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>>3017324

>>3017323
I agree. The pose is def stiff. Thanks for the feedback.

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byebye thread

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>>3017206
whatever, i tried.

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i do gud?

>>3017351
i hope you feel a moderate amount of shame.

>>3017356
none what so ever.

>>3017002
Im dying. Fokkin saved

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Drawing from imagination is only suffering

Lesson learned: don't attempt values and extreme lighting until you have normal lighting and greyscale figured out.

also that campfire is so out of perspective even if it is just a doodleblob

>>3016847
His face is kinda liquified a little on the top right for us, which makes his eye look off-center, which makes an otherwise super solid image look kind of derpy.

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I'm confused with perspective, but I don't really know how to explain. I guess it goes something along the lines of "Do I have to use perspective into every single drawing that I make?"

If I want to draw this woman for example, do I have to somehow find a horizon line and vanishing points? Vilppu says that we can construct everything from boxes, so do I have to "blockify" this woman (or whatever it is I am going to draw) before actually drawing her? and how can I be sure where the horizon line and VPs are? Then there is one exercise with a bunch of boxes stringed together seen from a difficult angle and I just couldn't figure out how to find their vanishing points or how they connected to the same horizon line.

In this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBv5z0Y2odE) the guy draws a piece of paper in perspective and then draws a bunch of them, do all these sheets have their own vanishing points over different horizon lines?

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>>3016684

>>3017324
that isn't what would most resolve the question he asked though. cunt

>>3017418
i still dont read it in that way.

>>3017393
what ae u even on about u drooling ass monkey

>>3016812
No. But im saying its still meant to have different proptions. Im bad at perspective yeah. And still take the feedback to see how i can improve it. Not just saying if my lines look crappy or the colors dont blend or match well that its a style. I dont have one yet.

>>3017403
Awe. Thats fucking adorable

>>3017109
Try to define your shapes with values instead of lines. Those lines are looking pretty bad. Also, very edgy.

>>3017158
Pretty good, I could tell it was her right away. Nice nose and eyes, neck and mouth are wonky. Finish it.

>>3017457
>>3017457
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>>3017457
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>>3016958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mt5TJmCqZ4

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>>3016793

Wow drawing for 6 months? Mind if I ask for your training regiment? Books? How many hours a day? That sort of thing