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How would China have turned out if the KMT had succeded in putting down Mao before or after WWII?
Would it be an even greater economic power than today, without having gone through Mao's great jump forward?
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I don't think the Cold War would have been as long or intense. The commies originally had nice intentions but went to shit after a bit, my grandpa even fought for them. The KMT also had some unpopular warlord support. Perhaps initially KMT China would not have been very successful, but with western support and influence it would be a nice place to live today.
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>>3630
The KMT was a corrupt and authoritarian shit. It was only the reforms of Lee Teng-hui that allowed it to be successful today.
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Let's talk about the Holy Roman Empire
>holy
>roman
>empire
Yeah it wasn't the best, but it was interesting.
Which were the best and worst princes of the HRE?
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Could you recommend any good history books on the Holy Roman Empire?
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Why did Barbarossa drown?
Was it a conspiracy or was the man too dumb to swim?
>>3734
I would like to know this too, I have next to no knowledge of the Holy Roman Empire
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I think we should talk about the 30 Years' War
>HURR LET'S START ONE OF THE BIGGEST WARS IN HISTORY BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE INDULGENCES
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>he didn't major in History or Historical Fiction
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>Implying I'm not
Fuck all you guys who do a major you hate
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Nope, I like actually having a job.
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>>3524
ding dong, faggio. you just tripped my shitpost alarm. oooooh yeahhhhhh rubba dubba. get outta here you punk.
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>itt most influencial thinkers in /his/tory
Starting at no. 1
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>>3409
I'm no. 1 cunt fuck off.
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the last prophet Muhammad
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>>3409
Yeah Santa is pretty dope.
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ITT we try to clarify the rules of this board.
Mods and hiro please post if you are reading this.
Are alternate history threads allowed? (ie. not fanfiction shit, but what would happen if major event occurred differently etc)
Is there a cutoff for discussion? 1999? Can we talk about 9/11? Can we talk about the Arab Spring?
Are psychology and sociology threads allowed or just philosophy?
Any special features this board should have? Suggestions?
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I think the cutoff should be the fall of the Soviet Union, so 1990.
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>>3253
Democritos was simply the most irrevelant philosopher ( after Ghazali of course ) ever
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>>3253
>Alternate history
I sure hope so.
>Cutoff for discussion
Why should that be the case? The Iraq and Afghanistan wars are history just as well.
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Why was it so shitty?
Or I suppose to be fairer on it. Why was it really mediocre?
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They lost the Austro-Prussian war and gave into the ethnic group that would have given them the most trouble. If they didn't it would have fallen apart.
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>>3154
It was a cultural melting pot and they didnt have a good military that could unify in the clutch. Otherwise it was actually a good place to live.
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>>3154
My empire-fu :_;
>Pic related, what could have been
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Imperial China thread
What was the best Dynasty?
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>>3106
>Privatization of State Industries
>Abolition of forced labor
>2% Agricultural Tax
>1.5% Commercial Tax
>Rebuilt the Great Wall to be actually somewhat effective until some fuck let the Manchu in
Ming China is Trump's China.
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Ming
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>>3106
hang and song
it was so good even japan copied it
oh yeah, and korea and vietnam too, they just thought we were so great that they took our culture
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Was the collapse of the Lithuanian Empire the worst thing to happen to mankind?
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Hittites, Sea Peoples and the Bronze Age Collapse
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Who were the Hittites? Why did their empire collapse only a century after their victory at Kadesh? Why was there no sucessor state?
Who were the Sea Peoples? Why could no land stand before their arms? How did Egypt manage to repel them?
Lost Cities of the Ancients 3 The Dark Lords of Hattusha (BBC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7U-b2rdtwQ
Secrets of the Aegean Apocalypse (History Channel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQykroaMGx8
Timeline
1274 BC Battle of Kadesh
1200? BC Iron Smelting Begins
1178 BC Hittite Empire Collapses
1178 BC Sea Peoples invade Egypt
1175 BC Battle of the Nile, Sea Peoples defeated
>"The foreign countries (i.e. Sea Peoples) made a conspiracy in their islands. All at once the lands were removed and scattered in the fray. No land could stand before their arms: from Hatti, Qode, Carchemish, Arzawa and Alashiya on, being cut off (i.e. destroyed) at one time. A camp was set up in Amurru. They desolated its people, and its land was like that which has never come into being. They were coming forward toward Egypt, while the flame was prepared before them. Their confederation was the Peleset, Tjeker, Shekelesh, Denyen and Weshesh, lands united. They laid their hands upon the land as far as the circuit of the earth, their hearts confident and trusting: 'Our plans will succeed!' " - Inscription from the mortuary temple of Ramesses III in Medinet Habu
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I am monitoring this thread
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>>3014
I always believed that the Sea Peoples were more than one group of people. They're too widespread and powerful to be a single nomadic group.
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>>3164
Thanks
>>3379
That makes sense. For the people being raided the Vikings all seemed to be one group of people. The Norse saw themselves as many different clans.
I suppose considering the level of trade going on in the Bronze Age Mediterranean it's very much possible for cultures from different stocks to look increasingly similar.
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I thought I'd start a book request thread. That way we can build an informed base of people on this board who can talk serious. So request, or even ask general questions, about and of the following topics and I will try to provide you books:
>the specific time period
>the geographical area
>a famous historical figure
>particular state/nation/country/empire
>history of a people
>history of a religion/sect/religious figure
>military history/ famous battles
resources for history book downloads:
http://bookzz.org/
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
resource for finding topics and books:
http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/
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>>2925
Any good books on the Carthaginian Empire? Preferably what they traded seeing as how they were super maritime focused, but Punic Wars is still always cool.
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>>3188
Not well versed in Carthaginian history, but I did read the following:
Richard Miles- Carthage Must be Destroyed
link:
http://bookzz.org/book/1193560/f1ed24
Its focuses a lot on how Carthage developed a trade network spanning from Spain to the Middle East and it discusses the Punic Wars too. Very nice read
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>>3317
Neat, I'll take a look into it. Thanks, anon.
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Anyone else obsessed with Anne Frank?
>read over 10 related books - not including the edited and unedited versions of her diary which I have read respectfully 10 and 15 times
>seen each film/television adaptation of her story
>visited the house in Amsterdam twice
>visited the grave/memorial for her and her sister at Bergen-Belsen
Let's talk about this beautiful girl whose life we can all learn from!
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DON'T FILM MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>2812
We can learn that she lost.
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Jeff pls
Share your favourite YT channels that discuss various historical topics. I'll start off by mentioning Matt Easton, he's a historical weapon expert mainly focused on 18th/19th century weapons, but he also knows a lot about most European weapons used throughout history.
https://www.youtube.com/user/scholagladiatoria
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Another one is the fairly new Knyght Errant, he mainly focuses on various armours used around the 14th/15th century. He doesn't have many videos up yet but so far he's been very in depth with his descriptions.
https://www.youtube.com/user/neosonic66/featured
Not sure if self bumps still work
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>>2597
>based Matt
Good start!
https://www.youtube.com/user/neosonic66
Ian Laspina or Knyght Errant.
Focuses mostly on 14th century stuff.
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>>2802
Beat me too it
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Does the Waffen SS get an unnecessarily bad rap for what they've done? Every now and then I see armchair historians like myself who say "muh wehrmacht was perfect and teh waffen ss did erry thing wrong." I mean most were just idealistic young men from all over Europe and even other places who wanted to fight communism. Yes some were too fanatical, but so was the Red Army and the Imperial Japanese Army.
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No, but too much of the blame for the entire war gets shifted onto them. The Waffen SS was DEFINITELY committing war crimes, but so was every other Army in the war at the time. The SS got the short end of the stick because they were on the losing side.
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>>2568
Well, they were involved in a disproportionate number of atrocities against civilians... That being said, most of the "Waffen SS" were just standard Army units.
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>>2568
The Waffen-SS was the only part of the German army you could join as a foreigner, and those were mostly fanatics. For instance, the last defenders of the Reichstag were Frenchmen.
Ignoring that, they were considered the elite, sort of like your USMC. It's just that they weren't in any way, but common people didn't know that and pushed their sons into joining them instead of the standard Heer. My grandpa for instance was considered a "disgrace to the nation" for not enlisting with the SS, and ultimately it saved his life for his brother who did was lost in the first deployment.
Them being mostly fanatics surely built up a grim reputation, but I believe it was the hatred the Allies felt when seeing the two runes on their collars, for they immediately connected that in their mind with a nazi war criminal.
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Post some good books on the history of Mathematics, Engineering, Science, & Technology
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Reminder that Einstein was a plagiarist who stole his work from mathematicians
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I read Schrödinger's "Science and Humanism: Physics in Our Time" and it was pretty interesting. A classical introduction to quantum physics but it also contains a very good "timeline" of where the foundations of quantum physics came from.
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>>2441
So how exactly did the British Empire fall?
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>>2703
Hippies.
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>>2703
Got your ass kicked by the Japs which made everyone realize how shit you were. Plus bankruptcy.