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>>13241
It still kinda exists in India
Look up Parsis community. They are direct descendants of these guys

A lot of people I see on the internet associate it with incest because of the game Crusader Kings 2 in which the defining feature or Zoroastrianism is the ability to have marriages in your immediate family.
In what cursory research I did, I could find virtually no reference whatsoever to incest being actually practiced as part of Zoroastrianism. The only source seems to be a history book by an Iranian muslim which purports that Zoroastrian priests in the Sassanid empire encouraged incest in the royal family because the combination of royal blood was considered 'sacred' and 'produced stronger children'. He goes on to claim that the populace didn't like this and it was a major reason that people were willing to convert to Islam.

This sounds really dubious, especially coming from an author with a marked bias against Zoroastrians. Anyone have more info or want to offer some insight?

>>13538
Yeah I was going to mention that, I think in Iran too there are some still. I was first acquainted with it via Nietzsche I guess, like a lot of people.

>>13834
Would also like a word on this, is the incest thing just from the Sassanids or was it REALLY part of Zoroastrian doctrine ever?

Can't argue with you there.

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excuse me but withhout this SAINT we would not be able to admire this work of art

>>12916
Religions have provoked more deaths than anything, and despite of that, the people still praising their gods
>inb4 dank memes from /pol/

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>>12865
his philosophy is pretty questionable but he was breddy fucking funny to read about

Russell Brand

>>12865
Aristoteles.

>>12829
stalin wasnt that bad

>>13930
Kill yourself

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>>12829

>>12699
More or less. You could say that our religious and political structures are derived from Greek philosophy.

>>12699

Egypt actually. But Greece is a close contender.

>>12851
>egypt
>west
pick one

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crusader armor makes me hard

>>12810
post a pic of crusader armor then

>>12810
>that disgusting fantasy-like setup
I bet you kiss girls too

Who really wrote Shakespeare's plays?

Ancient epics inside the Library of Alexandria that were collected from the Sumerians and all the ancient civilizations that spread by trade routes. They were possibly brought by the survivors into europe and rediscovered.

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>>12616
Shakespeare criticism is by and large an index of things not worth saying about Shakespeare.

He has a massive vocabulary, a command of differing high and low styles, and most importantly there's no biography we have that could "explain" his work away. In other words, he's still a mystery in a way that Dante (who did meet Beatrice and wrote from that inspiration) or Joyce (who did meet Nora and immortalized the day she first gave him a handjob) are not. Because we figure, oh Dante or Joyce did it for a girl they loved and lost or didn't lose, or whatever.

Hence, the authorship debate. Freud thought the plays were written by the Earl of Oxford. Walt Whitman and Mark Twain believed the Bacon theory. HELEN FUCKING KELLER believed the plays were written by Francis Bacon. (See the new book by Shapiro, "Contested Will", if you doubt me.)

You want to know my theory?

One English writer gets to be the most famous writer of all time. His name? Shakespeare (or so they say).

Meanwhile, 400+ years earlier, the only Englishman ever to be elected Pope gets elected as Pope. He promptly uses his powers to give Ireland to the King of England, which says a lot about the Papacy and about Irish Catholics. What was his name?

Well, Pope Adrian IV. The only English Pope. Look it up. His real name was Breakspeare.

Obviously Shakespeare was some kind of pen name. Obviously there is a conspiracy. I just find it hilarious that it's only within the past 10 years or so that people have started to suggest (based on the "Shake-shafte" found in a Catholic recusant household during Shakespeare's lost years) that Shakespeare might have been Catholic. DUH. Joyce noticed this, Antony Burgess noticed this, they both knew about Shakespeare / Breakspeare. They just had better things to write than more fapping over the supposedly greatest writer of all time.

Pic related: It's Hamlet's Uncle, the Roman who conquered Britannia and was deified there.

>>12616
Lots of Shakespeare history is ambiguous which is why these theories thrive but there is no worthwhile Shakespeare scholar who attributes his writing to any other known man.

Shakespeare was educated in English and Latin and read Virgil extensively. He was very well educated. He was also successful in business which indicates some level of ingenuity.

The quartos that survived, while not source texts, are very close.

Marlowe did not write Shakespeare's plays and this is evident just by reading Marlowe.

Decolonization's problem was rushed, and left either incompetent governments or de facto power vacuums in its wake.

Colonialism had to end for many reasons, but it ended the wrong way.

no because empire was costing Africa immeasurably in both human life and resources and costing the Europeans somewhat in human life and immeasurably in capital. Next Question.

Were the African colonies even profitable? I mean, christ, I'd imagine working with coked-up warlords has got to turn up a measure more in cash and capital than you could have under a colonial government. Great for private business, probably not as great for everyone else.

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>He thinks there is an 'end of history'

>>12274
What's wrong with Livy?

>>12391
he tended to embellish his works to be readable as entertainment for the plebs of the patricians essentially

he also used the worst fucking sources you can imagine for early roman history like Licinius Macer

he also just straight up made shit up sometimes for whatever reason

>>12239
read the meditations of aurelius

What part of no generals do you not understand you adolescent continental faggot

Hume.

They were pretty mad at euros for raping them and leaving them for the turks

>>12205
>>Within the city, the anxiety of the past few weeks had strained tempers to breaking point. Relations between Greeks, Venetians and Genoese - never easy at the best of times - had now reached a point where the three communities were barely on speaking terms. Even on vital matters of defence, every order was questioned, every suggestion argued, every motive suspected. Then, it seemed from one moment to the next, on that last Monday of the Empire's history, the mood changed. As the hour approached for the final reckoning, all quarrels and differences were forgotten. Work on the walls continued as always -though the Turks might enjoy their day of rest, there could be no respite for the defenders - but elsewhere throughout the city the people of Constantinople left their houses and gathered for one last collective intercession. As the bells pealed out from the churches, the most sacred icons and the most precious of relics were carried out to join the long, spontaneous procession of Greeks and Italians, Orthodox and Catholic alike, that wound its way through the streets and along the whole length of the walls, pausing for special prayers at every point where the damage had been particularly severe, or where the Sultan's artillery might be expected to concentrate its fire on the following day.

>>The procession was soon joined by the Emperor himself; and when it was finished he summoned his commanders to address them for the last time. Two versions of his speech have come down to us, one by his secretary Sphrantzes and one by Archbishop Leonard of Mitylene; and though they differ in detail and phraseology they are sufficiently similar to give us the substance of Constantine's words. He spoke first to his Greek subjects, telling them that there were four great causes for which a man should be ready to die: his faith, his country, his family and his sovereign. They must now be prepared to give their lives for all four. He for his part would willingly sacrifice his own for his faith, his city and his people. They were a great and noble people, the descendants of the heroes of ancient Greece and Rome, and he had no doubt that they would prove themselves worthy of their forefathers in the defence of their city, in which the infidel Sultan wished to seat his false prophet on the throne of Jesus Christ. Turning to the Italians, he thanked them for all that they had done and assured them of his love and trust in the dangers that lay ahead. They and the Greeks were now one people, united in God; with His help they would be victorious. Finally he walked slowly round the room, speaking to each man in turn and begging forgiveness if he had ever caused him any offence.

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>>12068
My dad was adopted,
all that is known about my mothers side is my grandparents.. I tried looking up stuff before but nothing was found.

this anime was made in 1985

>>12798
Need any help? I can look up your grandparents in the US census if that's where they lived.

Idk anything about my family

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Early ironclads can be pretty funny, and the Russian Navy is ALWAYS funny

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>>12011

http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome-fell

>>11867
>shit nigga its a surprise it didnt fall sooner
-edward gibbon

>>11867
the jews

How does it feel knowing that your sub-branch of history is looked down upon by other historians? I minored in History and specifically chose classes run by one particular lecturer, who focused on twentieth century history. One class was called 'The Experience of Modern War,' which looked at the human cost of conflicts such as WWI, WWII and Vietnam. He spent an entire lecture saying that military history is seen as a joke by actual scholars.

>>11777
what time period/region do you specialize in/has your preference ?

>>11777
Who was better, Patton or Rommel?