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Would Austria-Hungary have collapsed if WW1 never happened?
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Without reform, yes
In the long run I can't see it lasting super long, even with a federal system
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>>327445
This. Nationalism was on the rise. Reforms were "coming" But I feel it was too lite too late. Large scale rebelions would have broken out before. But then again there is too many factors to take into account. A shame such a country did not survive. Imagine how central europe would be today.
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>>327445
>>327539
Basically this, but there would need to be some sort of spark, If the political situation was stable, its unlikely it would just break apart. But as ethnic tensions rose, yeah an event precipitating a breakup would be inevitable. Ideally I think the breakup would be pic related

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How did the Arabs fuck up so bad?
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poorly prepared forces
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>>327280
Because they weren't expecting Israel to randomly attack them.
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>how did the defenders of Pearl Harbor fuck up so bad?

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Discussion about the history of Satanism.
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Is modern Satanism just a watered down mix of egoism and contrarianism with Satan slapped on the front for extra edge points?
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>>327252
ego/hedonism, yes
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I would like to know of the history as well, before it became the edge lords wet dream.

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How did you become a court jester? I'm not talking about retarded people or dwarfs the king would keep the lel at, I mean professional comedians. Did you just get a reputation as the funniest guy in town and hope the minor noblemen would notice you and tell the king to hire you?
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>>326936
Your idea of citizens as individual free subjects is fucking ridiculous. Your father lent you out to a fellow performer at age 8 to be buttfucked and trained in the arts of comedy.
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>>326936
How would the world be different if Pig had the ability to learn language. Like they are stil slaughtered for food, but they would cry and beg for mercy ?
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>>326962
Is the buttfucking part necessary?

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>Bhagavad Gita
>Tae Te Ching
>The Torah
>The Bible
>The Quran

Which is best?

My vote is pic related.
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>>326754
If I had to pick one of the five, I'm with you. Then the rest in the order you posted.
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>>326754
>>326766
Quran is at the top desu.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac

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I had noticed that no culture that was considered undeveloped had any sort of Companion animal.
-Sub Sahara Africa
-The Americas
-Australia
Where they essential in the development of culture.
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>>326740
Cattle have been widely domestic all across Africa for thousands of years.

Ancient Aboriginals farmed eels.

Andean peoples relied heavily on the llama.
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>>326740

The native Americans had companion dogs. The Peruvians even bred a hairless dog centuries before European contact.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peruvian_Hairless_Dog#
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>>326776
Sub Sahara Africa
I'm thinking horse cow, beast of burden, that could do X what a person could do.

I don't think eels are Companion animals.

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BOOK MEGATHREAD

We should have a weekly book thread on a Sunday for requests or recommendations to cut down on the amount of "recommend a book on _______" posts.

I'm looking for some good books on North Africa Campaign of WWII, preferably the British side.
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>>326674
I like this idea.

Esoterica & ritual:
https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ
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>>326674
Whats a good book on early Christian/biblical history?
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>>326674
Glad to see book threads are okay on /his/ now. I got banned for posting one when this board was a few weeks old, and the ban said that book threads belong on /lit/
>mfw

How significant was Britain's role in 'The Big Three'?

Did Britain benefit from WW2 in any way?
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>>326570

Britian had he biggest empire and navy. It provided air strips all pver the fucking world. There were few points in the world which the RAF could not reach.

Britain also outproduced the other two powers in airplanes, in relation to their population.

Also, it had a vast army thanks to it's colonial empire. Almost inexhaustible resources, if only they could get to britain untouched.
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The least significant of those three.

But still one of the four most significant powers involved in the European war. (six if you add the east with China and Japan)

Fought alone for a while in Africa. About half the troops during D-Day were British/Commonwealth. Significant presence in the east. RAF active throughout the war, from beating LW in the BoB to pretty much constant bombing runs against Germany. Also Royal Navy was fine.

It benefited in a way that they have built the strong social state they have now in the aftermath of the war.
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100% irrelevant.

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Educate me on Vlad the Impaler
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just touch it m8
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>>326404
He removed Kebab
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He was the ruler of Wallachia, which at the time acted as kind of a buffer zone between Europe and the Ottoman empire. That meant he had to constantly fight to keep in power, and stop the Ottomans from taking over Wallachia. He was apparently pretty brutal about that. He also spent most of his childhood in a Turkish prison and was later betrayed by his brother who ended up becoming an Ottoman sympathizer, so he probably hated the Turks enough to have been more cruel than necessary.

That being said, almost every story we have about his cruelty is probably exaggerations. Romanians still regard him as a national hero. Bram Stoker came across his name somehow and thought it was cool, so now everyone tries to tie him into vampire lore.

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Was Marcus Aurelius as based as they make him up to be? He seems to have lacked the power-hunger that made other autocrats "Great".
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Epicureanism > Stoicism (the Reddit of its day)
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>>326390
I mean, I'm not an authority on his time as a ruler, but I know a lot of the love his because of his Meditations. Which is actually a fantastic philosophical work and makes stoicism really appealing.
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>my feet hurt
>these normies party too loud
>I wish I was at home with my infinite nothingness

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How do you even make a society this oppressive without causing some sort of revolution? It's like Kim Il-sung read 1984 and thought "hmm what a brilliant idea". Is it even possible for NK to recover if they ever become free?
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Guys, NK seriously isn't that bad(or at least wasn't until the fall of the soviet union square). Stop falling for western memes about it. Not the best place to live, but by far not the worst.
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>>326244
minus square
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>>326244
I agree there's a lot of propaganda (which is easy considering the lack of reliable information coming out of DPRK), but don't try to sugarcoat the fact North Korea is a Stalinist dictatorship with some of the tightest forms of social control in the world
Their labour/re-education camps alone are worse than anywhere I can think of

As we all know, WW1 marked the decline of the west. The only thing that was ultimately able to topple European hegemony was Europeans themselves. With that in mind, what would have happened if WW1 didn't occur, or at the very least was not as cataclysmic as it was? Would decolonization still have happened, or would European hegemony continue through most of the 20th, possibly into the 21st, century?
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>>325999
Top hats never would have gone out of fashion.

Also, everyone would probably still be racist, because the europeans would have an interest in keeping public opinion in favor of continuing to subjugate the colonies and maintaining maximum control over them, in order to extract all those resources with impunity, which would be more difficult if the locals begin to get a say in governance, or any respect from the european public.

The european states would probably be forced to become more decentralised, or otherwise eventually fail or lose their colonies. Britain had a plan before WW1 to change administratively into an imperial federation (with britain, canada, australia, new zealand and south africa forming a single parliament)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Federation

As for tech, it's interesting to think about. We wouldn't have all the war tech that we developed in ww1 and ww2, but at the same time, millions of people would be alive, many of whom may have become artists, scientists, engineers etc.

The russian state likely would have evolved into a constitutional monarchy like britain, as they already had the duma in 1905. So we probably wouldn't see a big rise in communism, and the cold war probably wouldn't have happened.

Japan was already expanding, and it may still threaten America's pacific dominance, so a conflict there is still possible.

Without germany alienating its jewish population and generally fucking up in a big way, it probably would remain the most important nation in science, and the lingua franca of science would be german. In general, there would be multiple lingua francas for different things, rather than just english as we have it now.

Without the spread of communism, its difficult to say what would have happened to china. Perhaps it would reform and integrate with the capitalist powers straight away.

The Ottomans would probably still collapse.

The main powers in 2000 may be Britain, France, Russia, and the US.
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>>325999
>Sweden-Norway owns Norway but not Sweden
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>>325999
>Japan gets a color but Persian doesn't

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When the Roman Empire fell, the territorry they occupied didn't not inhabited. Which says me that, even on the late Middle Ages, such trace of the roman empire (like the Colosseum and the Roman Forum) could not be ignored. If that's so: Why they look deteriorated?

It seems as if no man had contact with them since the fall of the roman empire, even if they were relatively close to inhabited territories during the Middle Ages (specially Rome itself). I read about it, and supposedly in the Middle Ages, the materials of the ruins where used for other buildings, or built over them, but i don't know if that is accurate.
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>>325959
Rome was pretty fucking inhabited m8.
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They weren't maintained. When buildings aren't maintained, they fall apart.

Additionally they were often used as stone careers for building houses and stuff, yes.
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>>326204
But how the roman architecture looks deteriorated if they were inhabited?

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>HOLY
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>ROMAN
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>EMPIRE
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WHAT ARE WE?

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Hey guys, currently I was thinking about what was it - which tenets, one might say - that made Islam "profitable" for the 7th (and later) century Arab man to pick up - outside of bing forced into it by conquest, I mean. I assume the OK to expand by conquest and the double standards for muslims/non-muslims played their part, but surely there must be more to it? Also, if any of you know any literature on this that you would recommend, I would very much appreciate that.
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bump? I was really hoping someone would elaborate on this subject
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>>325784
Sure, so if you're looking for a kind of cynical explanation for why so many Arabs converted, one explanation would be that the first Caliphs actually did not encourage conversion that much so that the jizya would be shared among a smaller group. This was one of the differences between the 'Alids and the Ummayads, among many others.

You realize of course that in this timeframe, literally everyone who was an "Arab" lived in Arabia and was part of the earlier conquests, most of which were completed during Muhammad's lifetime. If you're referring to people in Mesopotamia, Egypt, the Levant, North Africa, etc. etc. then my answer would be a bit different.

What I would say is that Islam wasn't all that different than many of the ambient beliefs that people already had in many of these places, especially non-orthodox christians and Jews. Even the Arab polytheists had Allah as the master god to be worshipped at the Kaba. This just got rid of them with many of the other facets still there, like throwing the stones etc.

On a more personal but not quite "profitable" level, part of Muhammad's project initially at least was to breakdown the existing tribal hierarchies and increase equality. For that part of the world in the 7th century, there was something to that, even though we don't think of it that way now. Some of his early companions didn't have his status and were forced to go to Ethiopia to avoid persecution and then later joined him in Medina. For others, conversion meant that some of the societal fetters that constrained them would be loosened, especially if they could share in the results of the conquests.
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>>325784
A sense of brotherhood and unity in a world where tribal ancestry was extremely important and blood feuds lasted centuries.

What you have to understand is that Islam was essentially a social revolution in Arabia, increasing rights for everyone and demolishing existing social convention. It's been compared to communism by some but that goes too far, but I'd say it had the same sense of calling everyone comrade and shit.

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