What are some examples from history where the end justified the means?
>>2635677
Code geass
By lelouch becoming the bad guy world peace was brought
>>2635677
Manifest destiny
>>2635686
I said history, not chineese cartoons, you weeb.
Were hoplites really fighting barefoot?
>>2635414
Probably in that or in light sandals, although greaves were common. It's not really that easy to stab someone in the foot when you're in a chaotic mess of men jostling each other and the other guy has a shield in between your arm and his foot, and is trying to stick you with his own spear.
>>2635414
People have gone barefoot throughout most of human existence. Even Napoleonic troops occasionally went without shoes if they lost them.
>>2635414
Greece is a stony country. I don't think hoplites would stand marching whole day barefoot on little rocks. Maybe Spartans, these guys were masos.
>tfw missed out on the golden age of mass movements
I went to a trump rally twice and I was so caught up in it. The sense of purpose, the atmosphere, the feeling of unity and achievement. I just wish I could legally beat people up too.
Seriously for anyone interested in this kind of thing, go to a political cal rally sometime and see for yourself how easy it was to support a fascist movement.
>>2635385
>wanting to be a collectivist sheep
Nice try, Üntermensch
Wish we had political rallies in Australia
>>2635385
You sound developmentally challenged.
How come so few German or English Americans care about their ethnicity compared to the Irish, Scots or Italians?
>>2635313
Also why weren't there very many French people that moved to the US after independence?
>>2635313
Because Germans and English are by nature liberal cucks (protestants) who abandon tradition and pride for quick pleasures. The bastardization that is the English language is a metaphor for the spirit of the english
>>2635313
Many German Americans gave up their traditions and things like using the German language by the time WW1 started, when suddenly the Germans were the bad guys
I have been listening to the History of Rome podcast recently.
An outline of the reforms that Julian wanted to make to the traditional Hellenic cults is described, but not to the degree that I would like.
As such, I was wondering if anyone here would be able to provide me with any reputable sources/book suggestions that really cover what Julians religious reforms were in detail.
>>2634751
Bumping for interest. Seemd like the last true Roman.
>>2634751
I would too like to know.
>>2634753
>Seemd like the last true Roman.
He wasn't really a traditional Roman, since he favored Greek over Roman gods.
He also was a Neoplatonist and grew a beard. Obviously was larping as a Greek.
Quite pitiful how short his reign was and how quickly the Roman religion was extinguished in Rome.
Any other comments from the Romans on the Germanic tribes? Besides Tacitus, his have been posted here too. I find them interesting, I'm curious to see the Romans' thoughts.
Also, small side question, why did Tacitus say ALL the Germans had red/blonde hair, large frames, pale skin, above average height, and "fierce blue eyes"? Was he just stereotyping or were the Germans of back then genuinely much more disposed to e.g. lighter eyes? If nothing else red hair shouldn't have been that common either way.
Wikipedia's article on Germania has had this paragraph posted for a while with no source. Can anyone find out where this information originated?
>Caesar described the cultural differences between the Germanic tribesmen, the Romans, and the Gauls. He said that the Gauls, although warlike, could be civilized, but the Germanic tribesmen were far more savage and were a threat to Roman Gaul and so had to be conquered. His accounts of barbaric northern tribes could be described as an expression of the superiority of Rome, including Roman Gaul.
>>2634078
Check the source of my pic
>>2635476
Seneca,Of Anger, Book 3, Chapter 26(weird i thougt it was 24)
The colour of an Æthiop is not remarkable among this own people, nor is any man in Germany ashamed of red hair rolled into a knot.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_Anger/Book_III#XXVI.
Strabo, Geography, Book 7, Chapter 1
Now the parts beyond the Rhenus, immediately after the country of the Celti, slope towards the east and are occupied by the Germans, who, though they vary slightly from the Celtic stock in that they are wilder, taller, and have yellower hair, are in all other respects similar, for in build, habits, and modes of life they are such as I have said9 the Celti are. And I also think that it was for this reason that the Romans assigned to them the name “Germani,” as though they wished to indicate thereby that they were “genuine” Galatae, for in the language of the Romans “germani” means “genuine.”10 [3]
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0198:book=7:chapter=1
>"Early Islam didn't oppress it's women!"
>"It was the PERSIANS who started that!"
>>2633704
Whoever made this picture is messed up
>>2634253
/thread
There's literally nothing wrong with oppression of women
We all know JRR Tolkein's Lord of the Rings is a thinly veiled allegory for World War 1 and 2.
What I am wondering is what does the Battle of Five Armies represent? The Russo-Polish War of 1919-1921?
>>2638066
No, Tolkien explicitly stated over and over again that he hated allegories and Lord of the Rings isn't an allegory for anything.
>>2638077
what if it's an allegory for how much he hates allegories?
>>2638077
Why would you need to say it over and over again unless there is a lot more to it?
Orson Scott Card never had to insist repeatedly that Ender's Game wasn't allegory for the Nigerian Civil War.
>If you like Plato, you'll like Augustine.
>If you like Aristotle, you'll like Aquinas.
Is this true?
Definitely for Aquinas. He sucked HUGE Aristotle cock.
But Augustine abandoned neoplatonism later.
More or less.
Welsh, or some other Brythonic language, should become the language of Britain. English is an invader language from filthy Germanics.
and Normans.
>>2637658
>implying they won't both be erased by Urdu speakers in a generation
>>2637679
Unless the government force the people to speak Urdu that sounds very unlikely.
Why aren't he or his empire mentioned in the bible?
Jews are petty and envious people. They couldn't stomach a Greek conquering all those peoples that had enslaved them.
>>2637623
But he is. Except that protestants chopped out the book where he is mentioned.
Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic and the rest of the oriental Christian churches have the books where Alexander, and even the Romans, are mentioned, among many other things.
Let's talk about Madalyn Murray O'Hair, or other noteable athiest figures in historu.
Did she have a positive or negative impact? Is her legacy one of enlightenment or opression?
>>2637445
Bitch got what she deserved
I've never met a happy atheist, and her life exemplifies the fact that atheists are just born to piss in other people's cereal for some reason. Probably self loathing.
>>2637457
I have no issue with athiest although I myself would be more of an agnostic, although I am always open to faith.
I like the idea of not being forced to be religious in the same way I don't think it should be banned.
Did she REALLY deserve her fate, though? She was pretty vilified anyways.
>>2637470
No one forced anyone to be religious though. The US govt at most historically endorsed a nebulous, generic form of Christianity.
It's more like
>faith has played an important part in our society/culture for hundreds of years
>*autistic screeching*
And if you know the history behind her and AA, that's pretty damn close.
Can you anons name me some historical figures who spilled their spaghetti?
>>2637342
people who spill their pasta have no place in human history
>>2637342
Marco Polo probably.
Caesar, when Cateline got called out at a Senate meeting. The lad was crying and lashing out.
what the fuck happened?
Religion sucks the dick of whoever is in power. It has always been like this, except now liberals are in power.
>>2637241
They go their asses handed like the little piece shit they are
>>2637532
But the Thirty Year's War was a Protestant win
I'm looking for that pic of 100+ factors that cashed fall of the WRE that I see all the time on here.
Also general thread for fall of Rome in 476 or 1453.
>>2637127
You mean the wikipedia list?
>>2637135
I'm thinking he means the list that includes communism and homosexuality as factors
>>2637127
just look up the "good" emperors and you will see why it had to fail
Diocletian
>overthrow the tetrarchy because it doesn't work
>institute ridiculous economic reforms which centralised power and led to an overblown bureaucracy and the death of he weak economy
>put people in collectives and force them to work to save the economy
>cause the upperclas the seek refuge by the barbarians... by the fucking BARBARIANS
>fight against the death cult who seeks to overthrow your empire and fail
>after you crushed your own economy and failed to destroy or integrate the death cult, you decide to become a private citizen (with a giant palace) so you reinstitute the tetrarchy which never worked in the first place
>after the civil wars the reinstitution of the tetrarchy caused get ask for help with the trouble you caused
>say the new emperor that his problems are none of your business and that you will grow your cabbage watching him dealing with the problems you caused in the first place
>get rememberd as a good emperor with the only downside that you fought the death cult who seeked to overthrow your empire