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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine.

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097 (Dead)

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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>>62325684
Uninstall GuixSD
Install Gentoo
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>>62325684
I wanna deep throat Stallman's cock
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>>62325702
It's time to face the facts. Richard Stallman is nothing more than a whining, overly obese autistic manbaby who has not done anything beneficial for the computing OR technology world in the past 20 years. Seriously. Name something that RMS has done after 1995 besides bitching, crying, and moaning about bullshit that does not matter, or making some retarded, incomprehensible speech.

He demands that Linux be called GNU/Linux. That is fucking insane. The only reason GNU, GPL, and FSF are still a THING is because of Linus and the invention of Linux. If anything, Stallman should rename GNU to Linux/GNU, because without Linus, the GNU, GPL, and FSF would not be a thing anymore.

Stallman still has the fucking gonads to act like he's superior to everyone else. Saying shit such as "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone" right after Steve Jobs' death. What an asshole. Stallman has not even programmed a single line of code since 2008, that was AFTER he essentially stopped in 1992.

He should be fucking grateful Linus stepped in to save his ass, and even allowing him to take partial credit for his achievements. If it wasn't for Linus, he would be nothing, he would probably be dead in a Burger King dumpster right now.

Besides, what has he ever even done? He claims to have written eMacs, but in reality he actually cloned gosmacs (the first eMacs that was made for UNIX). He didn't even write 50% of the code in eMacs.

You might say he wrote GCC and GDB, but the truth is that he initally wrote the C compiler, but now the vast majority for the same compiler is done by contributors.

He's a washed up, morbidly obese man who tries to stay relevant by having these retarded arguments that are similar to those found in the Soviet Union. Face it GNU/Freetards, Richard Stallman is a fat dickhead, and the only reason his name is still in the books is because of Linus's achievements.
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>>62325702
You're not alone.
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>>62325726
new pasta?
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>>62325697
Uninstall Gentoo
Install Alpine
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>>62325850
Uninstall Alpine
Install Void
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>>62325863
Uninstall Void
Install OpenBSD
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>>62325866
Uninstall OpenBSD
Install NetBSD
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>>62325876
Uninstall NetBSD
Install FreeBSD
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>>62325888
Uninstall FreeBSD
Install AIX
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>>62325726
Are you sad your /flt/ threads died? Without RMS we wouldn't have GNU/Linux. He fights for our freedoms as developers and as consumers. Fuck you.
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>>62325895
Uninstall AIX
Install DragonflyBSD
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What's the FLOSS equivalent to google translate?
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>>62325912
Fake, Linus is clearly photoshopped in that pic
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>>62325918
Uninstall DragonflyBSD
Install Solaris
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>>62325912
Without RMS we wouldn't have GNU, but we would still have Linux. Prove me wrong.
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>>62325940
Uninstall Solaris
Install Slackware
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>>62325726
It's time to face the facts. Linus Torvalds is nothing more than a whining, overly obese autistic manbaby who has not done anything beneficial for the computing OR technology world in the past 20 years. Seriously. Name something that Torvalds has done after 1991 besides bitching, crying, and moaning about bullshit that does not matter, or making some retarded, incomprehensible blogpost on Google+.

He demands that GNU/Linux be called Linux. That is fucking insane. The only reason Linux is even a THING is because of RMS and the Free Software movement. If anything, Linus should rename Linux to The GNU kernel, because this is the most common system where Linux is installed.

Linus still has the fucking gonads to act like he's superior to everyone else. Saying shit such as "My name is Linus Torvalds and I am your god." or "I hope you all die a painful death." What an asshole. Linus wrote like the first 2 percent of Linux, everything else was developed by the community.

He should be fucking grateful RMS stepped in to save his ass, and even allowing him to take partial credit for his achievements. If it wasn't for the GPL, he would be nothing, Linux would probably still sit on some FTP, being proprietary.

Besides, what has he ever even done? He claims to have written Linux, but in reality he actually cloned Minix (created by Andrew S. Tanenbaum for educational purpose). He didn't even write 2% of the code in Linux.

You might say he wrote Linux and Git, but the truth is that he initally wrote the some lines for Linux, but now the vast majority for the same kernel is done by contributors.

He's a washed up, morbidly obese man who tries to stay relevant by having these retarded arguments that are similar to those found in Silicon Valley. Face it Linuxers, Linus is a beardless man, and the only reason his name is still in the books is because of Stallman's achievements.
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>>62325951
Uninstall Slackware
Install QNX
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>>62325956
>cloned MINIX
You know that MINIX is a microkernel and Linux is a monolithic kernel, right? That means they couldn't share any code.
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>>62325938
I know... sadly the only time they were seen together was in some Linux event where the FSF was awarded the Linux award or something. They were at the same stage when RMS got the award and went on to preach the crowd about saying GNU/Linux and saying that the award was like giving the Han Solo Award to the Rebel Fleet... https://youtu.be/xnb_eFSnXFI
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>>62325980
s/cloned/got most ideas of/
Wrote it while drunk.
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>>62326014
It's fine. This guy >>62325980 is propbably 15 years old.
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>>62325938
Please avoid using the term “photoshop” as a verb, meaning any kind of photo manipulation or image editing in general. Photoshop is just the name of one particular image editing program, which should be avoided since it is proprietary. There are plenty of free programs for editing images, such as the GIMP.
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>>62326014
You can't really steal ideas from a microkernel and use it to design a monolithic kernel. They are completely different things.

>>62326027
>t. butthurt gnubaby
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>>62325956
>linus
>overly obese
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>>62326046
speaking of GIMP, currently learning it and on my road I found a pretty amazing plugin calle "g'mic". Works in GIMP and as cli utility like ImageMagick. Pretty amazing filters and shit right there.
/shill blog
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>>62325956
>>62326046
It's time to face the facts. Richard Stallman is nothing more than a whining, overly obese autistic manbaby who has not done anything beneficial for the computing OR technology world in the past 20 years. Seriously. Name something that RMS has done after 1995 besides bitching, crying, and moaning about bullshit that does not matter, or making some retarded, incomprehensible speech.

He demands that Linux be called GNU/Linux. That is fucking insane. The only reason GNU, GPL, and FSF are still a THING is because of Linus and the invention of Linux. If anything, Stallman should rename GNU to Linux/GNU, because without Linus, the GNU, GPL, and FSF would not be a thing anymore.

Stallman still has the fucking gonads to act like he's superior to everyone else. Saying shit such as "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone" right after Steve Jobs' death. What an asshole. Stallman has not even programmed a single line of code since 2008, that was AFTER he essentially stopped in 1992.

He should be fucking grateful Linus stepped in to save his ass, and even allowing him to take partial credit for his achievements. If it wasn't for Linus, he would be nothing, he would probably be dead in a Burger King dumpster right now.

Besides, what has he ever even done? He claims to have written eMacs, but in reality he actually cloned gosmacs (the first eMacs that was made for UNIX). He didn't even write 50% of the code in eMacs.

You might say he wrote GCC and GDB, but the truth is that he initally wrote the C compiler, but now the vast majority for the same compiler is done by contributors.

He's a washed up, morbidly obese man who tries to stay relevant by having these retarded arguments that are similar to those found in the Soviet Union. Face it GNU/Freetards, Richard Stallman is a fat dickhead, and the only reason his name is still in the books is because of Linus's achievements.
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>>62325960
Uninstall QNX
Install Haiku
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>>62326046
Sorry
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>>62326089
stop shitting up this thread
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>>62326099
Uninstall Haiku
Install BeOS
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Linux is the desktop version of Android.
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>>62326132
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>>62326132
Linux mainline doesn't include binder or ashmem yet so you can't run dalvik on it. There are some projects (anbox and ... I don't remeber the other one) to install those missing modules on your current system via dkms though.
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>>62326132
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>>62326118
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why do people connect linux with communism?
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Whats the current solution to the filepicker problem? Do I need to patch and built GTK manually? Any infos/sources/guides on this welcome.
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>>62326227
Read the OP.
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>>62326206
Because if it's free, it must be communism, goy.
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>>62326206
Microsoft propaganda.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_cancer/
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/
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>>62326231
>Whats the current solution to the filepicker problem?
Drag-and-drop.
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>>62326276
thats what normies do
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>>62326283
You're the one using a gui.
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>>62326266
At least Linux doesn't only get the love for GNU achievements, but also the hate. What Ballmer was ranting about is the concept of copyleft (cancer) and free software (communism).
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>>62326231
there's a patch for GTK2 (check the OP pasta link), but well, it's just GTK2
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How can I run a command every day at 10:00 in the morning?
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>>62326336
>Linux doesn't only get the love for GNU achievements
ehhh?
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>>62326379
Install Gentoo
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How can I get pacman on WSL?
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>>62326379
man cron
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>>62326379
man cron
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>>62326379
Try cron.
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>>62326393
Yes. Follow this tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9mXyakv2i8
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>>62326420
Obligatory

It's time to face the facts. Richard Stallman is nothing more than a whining, overly obese autistic manbaby who has not done anything beneficial for the computing OR technology world in the past 20 years. Seriously. Name something that RMS has done after 1995 besides bitching, crying, and moaning about bullshit that does not matter, or making some retarded, incomprehensible speech.

He demands that Linux be called GNU/Linux. That is fucking insane. The only reason GNU, GPL, and FSF are still a THING is because of Linus and the invention of Linux. If anything, Stallman should rename GNU to Linux/GNU, because without Linus, the GNU, GPL, and FSF would not be a thing anymore.

Stallman still has the fucking gonads to act like he's superior to everyone else. Saying shit such as "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone" right after Steve Jobs' death. What an asshole. Stallman has not even programmed a single line of code since 2008, that was AFTER he essentially stopped in 1992.

He should be fucking grateful Linus stepped in to save his ass, and even allowing him to take partial credit for his achievements. If it wasn't for Linus, he would be nothing, he would probably be dead in a Burger King dumpster right now.

Besides, what has he ever even done? He claims to have written eMacs, but in reality he actually cloned gosmacs (the first eMacs that was made for UNIX). He didn't even write 50% of the code in eMacs.

You might say he wrote GCC and GDB, but the truth is that he initally wrote the C compiler, but now the vast majority for the same compiler is done by contributors.

He's a washed up, morbidly obese man who tries to stay relevant by having these retarded arguments that are similar to those found in the Soviet Union. Face it GNU/Freetards, Richard Stallman is a fat dickhead, and the only reason his name is still in the books is because of Linus's achievements.
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Is there a distro that calls daemons spirits instead?
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>>62326434
Reminder that every time you post this pasta, someone new on this topis may search the web about RMS, GNU or the FSF and probably turn into a freetard.
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>>62326420
You didn't answer the question! I'm very upset
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>>62326474
>implying anyone on 4chan would ever read a post that long
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>>62326474
Can confirm. Happend to me when I started browsing /g/ back in the days. Not that pasta, but something simliar.
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I'd like to write a script that takes a folder full of .mkv containers with h265 video, extracts the video stream, reencodes it to h264, and then overwrites the original video because my set-top android box doesn't like HEVC very much.

Is this easy to do?
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>>62325950
Linus said he was lucky to find a free operating system like GNU. without GNU he would most likely end up as an engineer for a big tech company
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>>62326119
Uninstall BeOS
Install 9front
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>>62326502
Yes, learn the commands to archive what you want, then learn how to loop over all files in a directory, example: for i in ./*; do echo "$i"; done. Instead of the echo, you add the command you want to run on the files.
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>>62326524
Uninstall 9front
Install HP-UX
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>>62326527
>./*
<3
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Why doesn't arch automatically install networkmanager with base? What's the point of an operating system with no internet?
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>>62326553
The point of Arch Linux is to build a fragile system from ground up.
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>>62326570
DELET
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>>62326132
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Okay /g/, I want to try one of these 'declarative systems'. Which one should I choose, GuixSD or NixOS? Are there any others I should take a look at?
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>>62326570
>Installs systemd with base
>doesn't install X or internet
what the fuck are you talking about? Arch isn't LFS
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I'm getting an X1 Carbon and wanted to know what distro is the most aesthetically pleasing but also the handiest and most efficient as well as how I install it and how I am supposed to maintain it
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>>62326553
>being a laptop shitter

literally lmaoing at ur life
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What distro is the best for the x1 carbon?
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>>62326553
networkmanager is very much not required to have functioning network.
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>>62326553
so arch users dont annoy the internet
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>>62326688
you can swap the desktop environments on any of them
since you're new just get ubuntu for no headache and then move into debian or whatever when you're more familiar
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Whats the best distro for a (mainly) blue wallpaper?
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>>62326807
this is incredibly esoteric
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>>62326807
fedora, not even joking
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>>62326807
>>62326861
This makes no sense. You can get any look with any desktop environment or window manager on any distro.

Why pick a distro based on its out-of-the-box look/theme that you'll be stuck with for who knows how long, instead of picking a distro you actually think you'll like and spending all of 2 minutes to change its appearance/theme to exactly what you want anyway
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>>62326924
>Why pick a distro based on its out-of-the-box look/theme
Why not?
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>>62327055
>Is it safe to shrink a partition that's already in use to install another partition into that shrunk space? Wanting to dualboot a Linux distro but already have a Windows installation, but I don't want to have to reinstall Windows.

Reposting my question here.
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>>62327098
Yes of course, people do that all the time. You can even do it during the installation process of your distro.
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>>62327098
>>62327156
Oh but I think it's highly recommended for you to defrag your windows install first.
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>>62327098
I've done this before, shrank the win10 partition to create a partition sort of like /home
Just make sure your drive is not fragmented when you do this and ALWAYS backup
If you just want to try linux, the safest, most preferred way is to do it in a virtual machine
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>>62327156
Didn't realize I could do that, thanks. Any particular distro that can do that? I'm assuming the more easier ones like Ubuntu and it's derivatives.
>>62327170
>>62327174
Yup, was planning on just using that as my /home. Thankfully I'm on Windows Botnet edition so my drive is already defragmented, so I'll give it a try. Thanks for the replies.
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>>62326533
Uninstall HP-UX
Install Temple OS
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>>62327174
GNU/Linux*
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>>62327378
As far as I know they all do, just in different ways.
The most intuitive ones are probably those that use "gparted", like Ubuntu.
Should look something like pic related and you can just drag the line between partitions to resize them
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>>62327450
Praise be
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>>62325684
Wait, guys, I've been out of the loop: is GuixSD finished yet and ready for retards like myself to use?
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r8h8 my NT(10.0)/Windows natively running a GNU/Linux GNOME Shell UI application

i set it up for reasons related to browser testing on Webkit (not chromium-blink) engine cuz Safari for winders is not available and it's shit and do weird things so i have to test on it. i know i can run GNOME Web it just fine in a wm i have, but i did this for shits an giggles, because what kind of a moron browses web in a virtual machine, right, lol
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>>62327706
Wow, you managed to install a thing from the windows store, congratulations.
Pretty sure there are other webkit based browsers available for windows.
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>>62327706

>my
Did you write it?
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>>62327733
hey, now, it's actually a bit more than that, including fiddling around with a thirdparty xserver implementation for winders

also i'm not insider cause i don't want to be in some jewy microdofs betatest programme

ok, i realized im maybe more stupid than i am, because i only looked at webkit-gtk based list and gnome web (ephiphany) was the only viable choice (that's still being updated and somewhat matches i-device version of webkit)
https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/ApplicationsGtk
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>>62327817
>ok, i realized im maybe more stupid than i am
just one more step on the path to nirvana
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>>62327706
nice proprietary software, faggot
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>>62327900
fidget spinner OS is free
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I've been playing with I/O schedulers and have modified my deadline parameters.

How do I make them persistent across reboots?? (I've basically used "echo <number> /sys/block/sda/queue/..." but that shit doesn't survive a reboot)

Using systemd... yeah... what can you do.
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what can I do if the pci driver fails to load on the Arch installation?

It shows me nothing when I write the lspci command
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Any rss readers recommendations? Tried newsbeuter, but it just isn't my cup of tea. What do you use?
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How do you only display the memory and cpu bars from htop? I see a lot of desktop screenshots where they only have that showing.

Do they just resize their terminal? I checked the man page, and there was nothing about it.
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I installed Debian earlier this year and hadn't run into any problems at all, until now.
When I boot into it as normal and login I get hit with what I assume is a message saying /tmp is full, and I get kicked back into the login screen. Reaching recovery mode doesn't work, either.

I tried cleaning from a liveCD (ubuntu 16.10) and didn't have any of the permissions to remove any of the files from the /tmp folder, does this mean I'm gonna have to get sudo working on a live disc to remove the files or something? Or is there any other way I'm forgetting that this could be fixed?

Either way I'm probably gonna a little once this is fixed, I just want to make sure I backup everything once it's done.
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>>62328180
Alternative 1: Boot normally and switch to another virtual console (Alt+Ctrl+F2 for example), login as root, and fix your shit.

Alternative 2: Ubuntu Live CD has sudo without password. Did you even fucking try it?
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>>62327098
Do the shrinking from Windows with native Windows tools. Gparted is known to fuck shit up sometimes.
In any case BACKUP YOUR DATA BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!
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>>62328180
>I'm probably gonna a little once this is fixed
I'm probably gonna distrohop a little*

>>62328245
>Alternative 1: Boot normally and switch to another virtual console (Alt+Ctrl+F2 for example), login as root, and fix your shit
I forgot about that, I'll give it a try.
>Alternative 2: Ubuntu Live CD has sudo without password. Did you even fucking try it?
nani? I haven't installed sudo yet, but I have it a go and it asked for it to be installed, and then mentioned adding the universe repo iirc.

Also forgot to mention in my original post that I've been trying to fix it without a wired connection but if it comes to that then i'll lug everything around to reach one.
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>>62327450
Uninstall Temple OS
Install GuixSD
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>>62326807
Xubuntu. Not only does it have a pleasing default user interface, it also has a cute mascot.
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>>62328245
option 3: just boot into bash, it might not require using tmp like a full session does
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>>62328245
>>62328525
>logged in as root
>did a apt-get-clean
>it works fine
I'm a fucking retard, thanks for the help though man.
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>>62328000
no one?
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Am I allowed to be in this thread?
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>>62329202
What driver? Also good luck getting hyperv support round here.

>>62329185
Hail Stallman?

>>62329236
>>>/wg/
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>>62329236
remove the botnet asap
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>>62325684
Can somebody explain the Linux scripting environment to me?
So we have native scripts like bash and zsh, then we have perl and python.
How about just picking a language and sticking with it.
I'm a minimalist and I'd like to have only Python for scripting since I already use it in other places. Will Debian still work if I remove bash from it?
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>>62329349
Can somebody explain food to me?
So we have native food like apples and oranges, then we have pizza and burgers.
How about just picking a food and sticking with it.
I'm a minimalist and I'd like to have only pizza for food since I already eat it in other places. Will LIFE still work if I remove fruit from it?
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>>62329349
>Will Debian still work if I remove bash from it?
No, the system needs it just like perl and python.
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>>62329236
what is this? Chrome OS?
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>>62329349
>kernel scripting
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>>62329374
breddy good
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>>62329374
This is an okay analogy, good work. Except life will still work without apple and orange.
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>>62329377
yes
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>>62329250
>What driver?
network adapter wise I assume?
Intel Ethernet I219-LM
I don't understand this.. the virtual switch is not functioning for some reason, something in the hyper-v setting is bugging out..
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>>62329375

Any particular reason they decided to use various scripting languages when they could've just use one? Are you saying I can't remove perl either?
I understand bash and zsh are compatible one with the other. If I replace bash with zsh will everything still work.
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>>62329597
>Hyper-V
Found your problem
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>>62329623
>Any particular reason they decided to use various scripting languages when they could've just use one?
A distro isn't developed by one person. Many people write programs for many systems, a distribution is a combination of random software projects, where tha package manage can require python, a program for maintence may be written in perl, etc.
>Are you saying I can't remove perl either?
Yes.
>I understand bash and zsh are compatible one with the other. If I replace bash with zsh will everything still work.
zsh is POSIX compatible, which means you can run ordinary shell script and zsh script, but it's nto quaranteed that bash scripts work because different syntax and features.
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>>62329623
"use the right language for the right task"
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>>62325684
My Windows freezes on boot , should I get Linux?
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>>62329780
You should get a whole GNU/Linux distribution. Start off with Ubuntu or Xubuntu.
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>>62329792
Should I get Arch Linux?
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>>62329709
Hyper-V is a decent virtual machine brev
shit should work
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>>62329812
Install Source Mage
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>>62329729
>A distro isn't developed by one person

No but there's generally a small group of people that decide what makes it into a distro. They could've enforced one script for consistency.

>>Are you saying I can't remove perl either?
>Yes
God dammit!

>but it's nto quaranteed that bash scripts work because different syntax and features.

I see thanks. So basically I'm stuck. I need to keep a bazillion scripting languages because some snow flakes out there want to code in their preferred snow flake language.

>>62329754
Oh fuck off already. They could easily write all scripts in one language and it wouldn't make much difference. The only real reason we have this bloat is because the Linux community has always been autistic, that's why it suffers so much from fragmentation, not only in scripting but also in distros.
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>>62329937
Maybe GNU/Linux just isn't your thing man. Shit happens.
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>>62326379
Try systemd.timer instead of cron.
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>>62330056

Or maybe you should just go fuck yourself.
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>>62326553
because netctl
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>>62329937
>all this freedom is too much for me
>why cant every system be like windows?
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>>62330195
>fragmentation is freedom

Everyone should use whatever language they like, however, good engineering dictates that simplicity and uniformity are paramount to any technical project. Gluing an OS with an array of scripting languages to cater to every snowflake is the very opposite of good engineering. You want to code using DeadLanguage #3658, fine, but distro maintainers should pick one language and stick with it.
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>>62330557
you're stupid
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>>62330572

Well obviously now that you've posted such a well thought and eloquent reply my opinions on Linux's scripting languages have changed completely. I'm now ready to except all the bloat and make an official request to the Debian maintainers to add even more scripting languages, maybe even break up the kernel and glue it together in JavaScript.
You fucking idiot.
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>>62330662
GNU/Linux*
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>>62330684

You know, I've spent the last few weeks reading the best books on the Linux OS such as Understanding the Linux Kernel by Robert Love or Linux Device Drivers by Corbet and I have to tell you, none of them mention GNU/Linux, they only talk about Linux. Actually Love even has a paragraph talking about why it's just Linux instead of GNU/Linux. Same thing with all the CS books I've read, they only mention Linux and that the kernel IS the OS. Not that neo-/g/ would know anything about that, you're all shitty webdevs around here.
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>Vi is the ubiquitous *nix editor
>Emacs bindings are the standard in every *nix shell
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>>62330829
Please stop posting.
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>>62330662
>break up the kernel and glue it together in JavaScript.
>JavaScript.
LEAVE RIGHT NOW
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>>62331011
>*nix
what did she mean by this?
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>tfw finally got libinput configured and working properly after 3 hours of messing around.

Fucking buggy as shit
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>>62331143

That really made you mad as hell didn't it? That the best books and programmers on Linux all agree there is no GNU/Linux, only Linux. You're so mad, all you could come up with was a shitty reply.
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>>62331011
What's wrong with that? In order to take advantage of vi keybinds, you have to have two separate modes separating commands from text that you want to write. Doesn't it just make more sense to use Emacs keybinds?
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>have a locked BIOS
>USB, CD, DVD all locked in boot menu
>want to install linux on a partition
is this possible without using the BIOS?
>>
How the fuck do I make a bootable iso of W10 on Linux? I just got Ryzen and I need to stress test it, and Linux doesn't find the sensors, so I have to do it in Windows. Except NOTHING FUCKING WORKS. I tried dd, winusb, woeusb, and the best I got was a legacy BIOS bootable device that showed a windows logo and then got stuck on black screen. This is the second day of trying to install thus piece of shit just so I can check that I'm not fucking melting my CPU and I'm going insane, please help.
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>>62331836
Not possible, I tried the same thing.

Made one on windows 7 then.
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>>62332062
I don't have an access to any windows pcs
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>>62332101
You have a window 10 iso though, so install it in a VM and create your bootstick from there.
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>>62332106
Is there any VM software that recognizes USB drives correctly? I could never mount a drive in VMWare.
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>>62331836
NOTE: I only used this method on BIOS based computers, absolutely no guarantee that it works on (((UEFI)))
0. find a free flash drive
1. repartition it. MS-DOS partition table, one partition, type: 07 - HPFS/NTFS/exFAT, set it active
2. make NTFS filesystem on it
3. mount your windows 7/8/10 iso to somewhere and copy EVERYTHING from it to your flash drive. You can also use a GUI packer to unpack the iso file if it supports it.
4. umount the flash drive, sync it
5. install ms-sys. If you distro doesn't have it, grab it from http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/ and compile it like a man
6. Use ms-sys to set up microbenis compatible boot records on your flash drive. Assuming you drive is sdb run
ms-sys --mbr7 /dev/sdb
ms-sys --ntfs /dev/sdb1

7. your USB should be ready to go
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>>62329937
Is it hard to go through life with severe autism anon?
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>>62332147
I already tried that, thanks though
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>>62332143
I never even tried so I don't know.
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>>62332164
fugin hell

then
>>62332143
try Virtualbox with vbox extension pack. It supports USB2 and 3.
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>>62331836
etcher.io
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>>62325986
>giving the Han Solo Award to the Rebel Fleet
I haven't seen Star Wars. What's this supposed to mean?
>>
I have read on the internet that arch is great because it is very "customizable".
I am currently using arch and I don't see how it is any more customizable than any other distro.
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>>62332216
If I put a 1GB iso on a 16GB USB with this, will there still be 15GB free space left on it or will it lock my space like dd or other stuff.
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>>62332223
>giving the google award to the world wide web
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>>62332288
Try harder
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>>62332406
How is ubuntu any less customizable?
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>>62332288
>>62332440
>>62332288
The installation is customizable.
After the installation I think it's just like any other distro. That's what people mean when they say arch linux is customizable.
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>>62332292
it will wipe your usb and yes it will still have that space

try it not sure though, lol
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Well, I can't even write the image in a VM. Why the FUCK would Microsoft make it HARDER for people to install their system?
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>>62333272
Must protect their """digital property""" from being """"""""""stolen"""""""""" by teh internet piratez at all costs!
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what distro do cute anime girls use?
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>>62333419
They use windows like everyone in nippon
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>>62333321
It doesn't make fucking sense though, if as a Linux user I wanted to switch to Windows full time, why the fuck prevent me to?

WE DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE GO AWAY
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>>62333419
OpenBSD.
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>>62333469
They don't care about the low percentage of linux users.
Every laptop you buy comes with windows or ios.
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>>62333419
They are pure, so they would probably use a pure distro. Like Slackware, Gentoo, or GuixSD.
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What open source video and audio codec and container is best for encoding and playback under Linux and BSDs? I have a low powered CPU and wanted to encode some 1080p videos to 360p for viewing but wanted a fully open source codec/container
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>>62333949
https://www.webmproject.org/
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>>62333949
vorbis (theora)
weebm
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>>62333949
>>62334027
Thanks I think I will use the "constant quality recommended settings" here " https://sites.google.com/a/webmproject.org/wiki/ffmpeg/vp9-encoding-guide"
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Is plymouth bloat?
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What's equivalent of IrfanView for Linux?
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>>62334441
Define equivalent
Personally I use Eye of Mate as a quick viewer and I have gThumb installed when I want something more
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Why is it so difficult to get smooth scrolling and no screen tearing with an Nvidia card using open source or the proprietary driver? Is the problem KDE? should I switch to XFCE or Gnome?
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>>62326087
There's a online g'mic as well.
>not as many filters as the gimp plugin.
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>>62325702
all 3 inches of it?
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>>62334577
When I used fglrx xfce was tearing like crazy which I fixed with compton. Create a
~/.config/compton.conf
file with at least the following lines to fix tearing and then start compton:
backend = "glx"
paint-on-overlay = true;
glx-no-stencil = true;
vsync = "opengl-swc"


Now I switched to the open source radeon driver which works better and xfce doesn't tear even without compton. I just had to create
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-radeon.conf
with
Section "Device"
Identifier "Radeon"
Driver "radeon"
Option "TearFree" "on"
EndSection


I still use compton though because I like the shadow tweaks
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What's the best AUR helper? i used yaourt way back when.
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>>62334794
pacaur
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>>62330557
so make your own distro that only uses python, you fucking autist. Linux is free software and you can do whatever you want with it. if you love python then make a python-only distro with python as the shell.

but be prepared to do a shitload of work
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>>62330662
you should try that. write nodejs into the kernel and break it up into microservices. tell /g/ how it goes
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>have a locked BIOS
>USB, CD, DVD all locked in boot menu
>want to install linux on a partition
is this possible without using the BIOS??
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How do you deal with file permissions when coding in vim? Do I really have to create a mapping just for :w !sudo tee % or?
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>>62334959
get a uncucked computer
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>>62334441

Nomacs.
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>lunix is perfect for the dev environment I need now
>can't get over the fucking screentear and or mouse float if I turn on full composition pipeline
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>>62334959
absolutely. what OS do you currently have installed?
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I'm looking for a frontend to GPG. The program should be able to encrypt e-mail and just work after being configured once. It should be so easy to use that even elderly people can use it.

Does something like this exist?
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>>62335536
windows 7
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>>62334959
We had similiar questions yesterday and the day before.

You could use a VM and give it access to your entire filesystem. Create an empty Partition for Linux in advance and install from the VM

Also never buy such a cucked computer again, this is disgusting
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>>62335730
1. prepare a gnu+linux installation pendrive as usual
2. download and install EasyBCD. Free (as in free beer) for home use
3. start easybcd. Go to "Edit boot menu" and set it to countdown. Set it to 5-10 seconds, whatever works for you
4. go to add new entry. in the Portable/Extended media go to BIOS extender and select install PLoP
5. you are done. Close easybcd, reboot then select "EasyBCD BIOS Extender" from the menu. the PLoP boot manager will let you boot from USB, CDROM, floppy and HDD.

Plop is free software thou. You can put in on floppy, cdrom or chainload it from Windows (like I suggested) boot loader or grub. It can be used to boot from USB on shitboxes that cannot boot from USB.
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>>62329349

You may be interested in http://xonsh.org/

>> Will Debian still work if I remove bash from it?

Bash is an interpreter that may run interactively or non-interactively. Many of Debian's OS userland pieces are written in bash. They could be replaced with scripts written in Perl, or Ruby, or even Javascript (no point though really).

If you are interested in the userland look at NixOS and GNU GUIX. GNU GUIX is kind of the GNU world (mostly academic) acknowledgement that NixOS had the right idea.

When you do ldd on a binary on NixOS you get a hash so there are no collisions on the Unix hierarchical filesystem namespace.
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is there a way to have vim keybinds when typing posts for 4chan? other than typing into a text file and then wrapping it with an http request ofc
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>>62336027
why would you want that even
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The terminus font suddenly stopped showing up in the font list. It does not show up in fc-list anymore even though the files are there under /us/share/fonts/misc
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>>62336038
having to backspace and use arrow keys, or use my mouse is really slow and i hate it
>>
Sorry to interject, but does anyone have this? >>62336003
>>
Is there something like shutter that doesn't need the entirety of fucking GNOME?
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>>62336158
GIMP?
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>>62336045
Try moving it to
~/.fonts
?
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>>62336027
I would imagine pentadactyl or vimfx does that, although I've never used them. I'm guessing this because I use KeySnail, and I can use C-a, C-f, M-a ... while filling out the post form on 4chan and basically every other website where there's a text form to fill.
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>>62336045
Try doing:
>fc-match -s monospace | grep erminus
>fc-match -s | grep erminus
leave off the T so it catches capitals too. Sometimes terminus ends up having some weird name.
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>>62335828
i'm getting no bootable drive with my USB. Are you sure this bypasses the BIOS?
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>>62336269
Nothing shows up
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>>62336391
yes, it's a userspace program that boots the device itself rather than the BIOS
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>>62336216
thanks for the namedrops, will look into it
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>>62336405
Actually just use "fc-match -a" that prints all fonts.
and try grepping for terminus. Maybe even try TERMINUS in all caps
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i need to change something in my xorg.conf file, so xbacklight looks into the right directory, but i only have a org.conf.f directory, with nothin in it. wtf am i supposed to do.
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>>62336468
Still nothing
>>
how does one actually download these programs that have their own package page like this one
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/light/
pacman -S light doesn't do, how do I figure out the name?
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>>62336568
come on anon...
pacman works with arch repos, you program you want is in the AUR.
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>>62336555
Then try "xos" or "xos4", if it's still nothing then maybe you just think you have it installed but really don't
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>>62336595
what is AUR??
>>
>>62336640
you're kidding right?
>>
>>62336555
>>62336617
Oh one other thing you can try is looking inside /etc/fonts/conf.avail for anything that looks like terminus.
Maybe have it disabled somehow
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>>62336617
I edited the /etc/fonts/conf.d/75-terminus.conf to the string said "xos4 Terminus" instead of "Terminus" and reran fc-cache. It works now
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>>62336659
wjtat AUR os arch no?
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>>62336122
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>>62336802
Oh fuck yes! I don't know where I saved this. Thank you a lot Anon.
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>>62336762
wat
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It's like those memes that start and end with Ubuntu.
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>>62336410
still not working with two USBs tried
>>
>>62333419
Windows 2000 on their pentium II
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>>62337387
fug, one less variation, works for debian and derivs.

1. fire up easyBCD again and install NeoGRUB (optional: remove plop)
2. go to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/
and grab the files "linux" and "initrd.gz"
of course, from a similar path you can grab the i386 images or the gtk installer
3. save the two files to an easy-to-access path... like the root of your c:\
4. reboot, in your boot menu choose neogrub
5. you are now should be in a grub shell. fire up debian with
kernel /linux
initrd /initrd.gz

6. now you should be in your everyday debian installer. proceed as usual.
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Which are the must-have fonts on Glunix for my anime needs?
>>
>>62337594
install whatever mincho fonts for japanese fonts
don't worry about subtitled anime, the mkvs usually contain the font files needed.
>>
If I manually install software via make install, will it fully overwrite the old binaries so there isn't multiple versions of the same software installed?
>>
>>62337676
from my experience it will overwrite every file it installs.
>>
>>62337676
Even if it does your package manager won't know about it. It is usual to install to a precise like /usr/local/ or /opt/
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What's currently the best distro? No time for distro hopping. Just tell me which is the best so I can install it and go on with my life.
>>
>>62337781
ubuntu or one of it's varients
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>>62337781
GuixSD, Source Mage, Gentoo
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>>62337781
Easy. Debian.
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If you're logged in as root, can a CD in the CD-ROM drive be modified by a malicious program?
>>
>>62338047
Yes
>>
>>62338047
Your question leads me to believe that you're under the impression "you" have a user who can either elevate his permissions or not and any other application running under your user can do anything "you" can including use elevated permissions.

That's now how things work. Don't think of it as "you" who has a user and permissions, but rather applications and files that have users and permissions.
When your computer starts up and asks you to log in what it's really doing is asking which user you want to allow to launch its desktop environment or window manager under.

So your environment is running under a specific user. When you launch applications they inherit their user and permissions from that environment. If you launch a terminal (it also inherits permissions) and then log in as root it doesn't retroactively change the permissions of any other running application. ONLY that bash session has root access.
So if you have some malicious program on your machine that's already running as your normal user and then you login as root the malicious program is still non-privileged.

However, there are of course ways a malicious program might attempt to elevate itself. For instance there might be a way it could hijack your root terminal once you login. But it's extremely unlikely. For the most part there is nothing to worry about when using a root shell other than your own human error.
>>
anyone got a simple Compton config for removing tearing? No animations or any shit like that, the everyone uses from that 2013 article runs like absolute shit
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>install GANOO Samba on GANOO Linux
>follow directions on the GANOO Samba wiki for installing and setting up a DC to the letter
>get this
This is why you stupid fucks will never be taken seriously. Keep throwing money at minorities and mentally deranged """wymyn""" instead of fixing your broken shit though.
>>
I want to use linux but the screen rendering sucks compared to windows. Every desktop environment I use has slight screen tearing even though there is options against it, like Plasma has built in vsync.
>>
Best distro for gnome 3? Best performance, best support etc for gnome 3 particularly.
>>
>>62331834
Buy a thinkpad
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>>62338671
any of them because they install the exact same software no matter what distro you use
>>
>>62337676
If deb or rpm use checkinstall to build a package manager friendly package.
>>
>>62338732
Yet kde on ubuntu is like 2/3 in most cases and 1/3 on performance scale compared to kde on OpenSUSE.

I just want working, efficient gnome 3 to test it out in its entirety every single feature of it out of the box.

Is fedora all I got for that?
>>
>>62338749
The only performance would be your hardware.
You're experiencing psychosomatic issues
>>
>>62338761
Fuck it, I'm closing this page and never coming back to this general cya have a good life.
>>
>>62338432
Does anyone have ctrl+f?
>>
I don't get it. The GNU philosophy states, that you should insist on using free software and avoid proprietary systems including SaaSS, but isn't 4chan a SaaSS?
>>
>>62338855
wew
>>
>>62338881
>SaaSS
School of Advanced Air and Space Studies
>>
>>62338881
Well ask yourself, what piece of software could you be running that would do the job of 4chan? Or what "computing task" is it that you think 4chan is being a substitute for?

I don't know about you but I can't think of one. Hosting a discussion site might be a service, but it's not doing any computing tasks as a substitute for running local software.
>>
>>62338450
You do know samba is an Australian clone of Microsoft shit, right?
>>
>>62338456
Probably your hardware senpai, I've never had it in any of my systems.
>>
>>62338937
It's doing the work of communication I would say. I mean, we could communicate with each other without 4chan between us, don't we?
>>
can anyone explain to me how to properly partition a drive so that I can run multiple distros? Had issues figuring out how to put a gpt partition with grub on it, it has to be fat32?

on a VM its BIOS but when I do it outside the VM it will be UEFI..
>>
Are there any blogs or websites that regularly write about cool command line utilities with examples with the focus of teaching something about it?
>>
Why can KeePassXC save the database so fast compared to normal KeePass which needs as long for saving as it needs for decrypting?

Does this make KeePassXC more insecure
>>
>>62338767
We'll miss you!
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>>62338767
see you tomorrow!
>>
>>62339034
It's either use this shitty ass software or run a separate VM of Server 2016 as a domain controller.
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>>62339077
You're overthinking it.

The "bads" and the "goods" of software and business practices are far too complicated to give perfect rigorous descriptions too, and even if you could they would likely contain loopholes anyway.

You need to use some common sense and remember why something is bad in the first place. There is nothing inherently wrong with using a website that offers a calculator interface rather than a calculator on your machine.
It's only bad because those services are usually created to farm data of some kind or to spy on you. If the calculator service is spying on you or saving a log of all the calculations you do to sell to some other company who's interested for some reason then that's bad.
You should watch out for SaaSS because they are usually gimmicks to get your data. Maybe 4chan does that too? I don't know. But being a communication service is actually very useful and not inherently bad itself.
>>
>>62339083
It should be labeled as a bios partition on the GPT and formatted as fat32. Then you need to put the kernel image in it and install grub for efi. Check out the arch wiki for the actual commands. Note that your computer needs to be booted in efi mode for grub to be able to do this.
>>
>>62338767
install gentoo :]
>>
Is Matrix currently the best modern federated communication platform right now or are there better ones?
>>
>>62339226
isnt efi mode the default boot for modern PC? x87 board
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>>62339223
That's usually the problem I have, with services collecting my data, since I have no control over it.

The question I ask myself is, if there is a way for the service providers to guarantee, that they don't collect data, because if they can't, it would be violating freedom, right? I would be using something that has the power to manipulate me.
>>
Trying to install Brave and I'm stuck on the very first step:

// To install brave using apt and lsb_release:

curl https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/brave-apt/keys.asc | sudo apt-key add -
echo "deb [arch=amd64] https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/brave-apt `lsb_release -sc` main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-`lsb_release -sc`.list


What the fuck does this mean and what am I supposed to do with it?
>>
I installed arch with i3 through virtualbox, but the login prompt isn't working for me. I had a very basic password (123 type shit), and it isn't letting me in. It won't say incorrect username/password or anything. The prompt just refreshes.
>>
I fucked up my GPU driver installation and now my Arch hangs when loading it. I blacklisted radeon but it probably still tries to load it. How can I get grub to boot up straight into shell so I can remove the blacklist?
>>
>>62339432
Yeah but then you can't even use the internet at all because our computers aren't all directly linked without any middle man. To send any messages over the internet at all is to send your data through many different servers, that's just how it is. So from that point of view just explicitly adding 4chan as another middle man doesn't really change anything.
So for that reason I wouldn't consider it to be SaaSS, because you DON'T possess any software on your machine that can send a message directly to me without going through anyone else first.

On a side note though, probably the closest thing you can get to what you're looking for is peer-to-peer encryption so the servers just transmit your message but can't read them. Nothing is perfect though, people have been trying to solve these problems forever without any really good answers.
>>
>>62339458
It is a command to run in the terminal. Although it looks like you have an extra linebreak in the curl url argument.
The first line uses curl to fetch thoir repo key and then pipe it to apt-key add so that debian now trusts their signing key and wil install stuff from their repo.
The second command adds their repo url to a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ so that apt knows about it. It uses lsb_release to figure out what distro version you are on.
After that you should be able to run apt update and apt install brave
But if you are too new to figure out what that two liner does I suggest you don't run it because it involves telling your OS to trust code from an unknown repo.
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>>62339550
you could chroot into your system
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Should I use Konsole or Xterm or something else?
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What are some cool terminal commands?
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>>62339847
sudo poweroff
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>>62339804
URxvt, Termite, or when you're familiar with C: st.
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>>62339859
does this do the same thing as clicking shut down from a menu?
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>>62339865
any reason in particular why I should use those
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>>62339804
>>62339865
I vote for Alacritty. At least to keep an eye on as it develops, looks like it could be really great once they add scrollback. Better than st in my opinion.
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>>62339847
https://github.com/mpereira/tty-solitaire
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>>62339888
That's actually pretty cool
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>>62339887
It is no faster than urxvt and has no features.
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>>62339883
No, but you'll ultimativly end up with one of these anyway in some months/years, so why not speed everything up?

I personally use URxvt because fallback fonts, perl scripting, good customation and client/demon mode.

However, URxvt has some flaws: Stuff like fontawesome woun't work without patching and true color support is "scaled down" to 256 colors. Here st is the better option.
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>>62339938
What makes you say it's no faster?
Also I'm getting tired of URxvt's crappy character spacing in certain fonts that can't be fixed. One feature alacritty does have that URxvt doesn't is the ability to have negative line spacing
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>>62339902
Cool thing is that it uses your custom colors, so it fits with rice. Movement is hjkl.
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>>62339978
why does my scroll bar look like this? and what do you use to customize it since there's no menu bar?
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>>62339981
letterspace: -1

Do yo even read the docs.
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>>62340013
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/rxvt-unicode
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>>62340021
Do you even know the difference between letters and lines?
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>>62339981
>What makes you say it's no faster?
Testing it in the only way I could bother, catting a multi gigabyte text file.
The only other thing I can think of to test it is the fps of libsixel doom or something and I can't be bothered setting that up.
Do you really believe every claim some meme pet project comes up with?
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>>62340046
thanks but I don't see anything on how to change the scrollbar's appearance in there
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>>62340082
man urxvt
/scroll
n n n n
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>>62340071
Do you always get angry at people who are interested in software you personally aren't?

I bet you didn't even give half as much thought to your own support of "st", which is much more of a "meme" terminal in my opinion.
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>>62340082
Just hide it.
URxvt.scrollBar: 0
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>>62339847
nc rya.nc 1987
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>>62340122
that gives me "command not found"
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What is your favorite programming language and why?
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>>62340218
Binary. Because I'm a real man.
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>>62340213
nvm I didn't go in the config file
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benis

-> >>62340246
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>>62340218
The right language for the right task.

That said. C. (Not C#, not C++, I really mean fucking C).
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What FOSS video editors do you guys use?
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>>62340119
I have never used or supported st and I didn't get angry because are interested an allacritty. So am I, that's why I tested it out weeks ago. Recommending non-newbie ready projects to newbies based on claims that you haven't even verified is poor form.
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>>62340160
fugg
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Uninstall Communism
Install Capitalism
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Anyone here use Mint Debian edition? Why would I want it over regular Mint based on Ubuntu?
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>>62340506
kdenlive.
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