/pcbg/ PC Building General

add gtx 1030 to plebbit tier budget facebook machine

>>62216899
a fag built this

I strapped a 120 mm fan onto my 970gtx since the ball bearings on the old fan gave out and it made annoying noises.
The GPU temp now rises to 85°C. Is this still ok?

What are your primary stores and deal-finders?

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/
https://flash.newegg.com/
https://slickdeals.net/

Fuck i didn't check the new thread, anyways:
>>62211712
what's wrong with 1700X?

>>62217215
>>62217195
Compared to 1700, it's more expensive, doesn't come with a cooler and they OC the same. 1800x is higher binned 1700 but in practice they're the same chip and has no reason to exist.

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>making a little mining rig
>$80 960 GTX in my area on craigslist

starting a new build. Already have CPU, Mobo, and SSD as shown in the list.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wfw2d6

I don't give a shit about gaming, so I just need a GPU that can run up to 3 monitors. I noticed most low-end cards only have 1 or 2 HDMI/DP outs, do any cards below $150 have up to 3 HDMI/DP?

There shouldn't be anything wrong with the rest of it, case and PSU are placeholders for the kind of budget I'm going for the rest of it, as with the GPU I want to keep the rest under $400.

>>62216899

Is it worth it to buy a small 50ish$ SSD for a budget build or should I just get a HDD and then buy a decent SSD?

Any recommendations on budget SSDs?

>>62217359
>do any cards below $150 have up to 3 HDMI/DP?
Nope. 2 is max from what I've seen.
Either buy a used high end card from a couple of gens back
or
get several cheapo $50 cards

>A10 9700

What the fuck is that? The shoehorned on AM4 APUs from 2015?

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1060, 1070, 1080 or 1080ti?
I don't want something that will be obsolete in 3 years but also not a literal vacuum cleaner + radiator

>>62217494
wait for volta

is the Crosshair VI Hero ATX AM4 worth the money?
or should I get a STRIX B350-F?

>>62217545
What should I buy if I need a graphics card now and want to wait for Volta?

Fuck me a new thread came up while I was writing this post down.

Hey, /pcbg/, please help me with my new build. My current one broke so I'm salvaging what I can from it.

CPU: Ryzen 1600
Motherboard: MSI Tomahawk Arctic (can't seem to get vanilla Tomahawk, please suggest a better board if you can, I'm kind of afraid buying this one and getting an old revision)
RAM: No fucking idea, please help. Any thoughts on A-DATA sticks?
Everything else I'm salvaging from my current build:
Fractal Define R4
R9 290
Seasonic Platinum 660W

Ideally would like to keep the price under $350. Less is better, but only if it doesn't compromise the quality. Linux user, if it matters.

>>62217578
considering X-370 instead of B-350 if i dont get the Crosshair VI

>>62217411
Yeah a 120GB SSD is worth having.

>>62217545
It's at least half a year away.

>>62217446
Yes it's awful, I don't know why people leave it in the OP

>>62217494
With what pc and for what use? What resolution?

>>62217585
A small increment in your upgrade path

>>62217590
Ryzen: ~$200
-------------------
..............$150
MoBo: ~$80
-------------------
...............$70

70 bucks for RAM means you'd have to go with 8gigs max.
What kind of RAM is pretty much irrelevant just make sure it's in the MoBo's QVL.

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>>62217639
Building a new rig
Cpu with be from one of 7700(k)\1700(x)\1800
Buying new monitor to accommodate gpu (VGA on current one), probably will run at 1080 por 1440p

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>>62217611

>>62217359
closest one i could find only cost $10 more
http://a.co/ekPmbLn

>>62217686
You can get a 1080 if you go 1080p144Hz or 1440p60, Ti for 1440p144

>>62217655
Yrah definitely gonna do 8 GB for now. This is the RAM I was thinking, but I'm not sure.
https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-MODULE-AX4U2800W4G17-DRZ-2800MHZ-2x4GB/dp/B00MSOJRXC

Probably gonna put me a bit over the limit but the prices jumped overnight so can't be helped.

>>62217003
No, if its a reference model you should replace it with a blower style fan. However if it has an aftermarket cooler you should place the fan as close to the heatsink as possible, e.g. by removing any visual plastic shrouds...

Looking to build a new machine with the 8-core Threadripper. I mostly do software development, but I'd also like to run a Windows VM with PCI passthrough for gaming. I have a few dumb questions:
>What are good brands for motherboards, RAM, and GPUs?
>Are AMD GPUs still basically required to do PCI passthrough, or does it work well with nvidia now as well?
>Does TR's quad channel RAM support actually improve memory access throughput/latency?
>How do I into water cooling? I figure if I'm going to try it then I might as well go all out and build a custom loop, so what's a good "babby's first custom loop" guide?

Not sure if budget is relevant at this point, but I'm aiming for $2,000, maybe up to $2,500 if necessary. I'm planning to reuse my current GPU and buy a second one for the Windows VM. May also reuse PSU (if it's big enough) and case.

>>62216899
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkRmtJ
This is what I intend to build

Current build is:
>FX 6300
>GTX 950 (same one in the list)
>8 GB of dual-channel ddr3 @803 MHz
>Toshiba HDD (one in the list)
>Asus VS228 monitor

Budget: aprox. 1100$

What I want to use this PC is as a workstation and a gaming PC (I am planning to buy a Zotac GTX 1070 a bit later)

Only thing that bugs me is RAM memory
Since I live in Serbia, components are 20-30% more expensive than in US, and specific manufacturers are rarely found so this is the list of available DDR4 RAM sticks that I can buy:
>Patriot DIMM DDR4 8 GB, 2133 MHz, PSD48G213381 (x2)
>Kingston Fury Black 8 GB, 2400 MHz, CL-15 (x2)
>GSkill DDR4 8 GB 2400 MHz, CL-17 (F4-2400C17S-8GNT) (x2)
>GSkill Aegis 2x8 GB 3000 MHz, CL-16

So the prices are:
>150$ for 2 sticks of Patriot memory
>198$ for Kingston
>160$ for GSkill
>170$ for GSkill Aegis
Yeah prices are fucked up desu

Any suggestions?

I got money for a 1080ti

is evga usually the way to go
do they all have the same performance or is the only difference the cooling

>>62218090
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkRmtJ
I strongly recommend a air cooler instead of AiO, reliability is much much higher and cooling at this price point is better with regular coolers.

>>62218159
look at 1080ti comparison benchmarks

>>62218162
Thank you, silent PC is what I need and this config that I currently have is obnoxiously loud, that is why I chose supressor and thought that AiO was a better choice

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They all match in the part picker, I just made a crappy image for fast viewing. Is this a decent build for 850? I set myself a 1k limit.

>>62217359
Gigabyte/STRIX gtx 950/1050ti
I currently have GV-N950WF2OC-2GD, you have 2 HDMI, DVI-D (dual link) and DVI-I (also dual link)

>>62218296
Do you understand that the White PSU will still be black in color and not meet your theme?

>>62218296
That case is too small for that motherboard. And that PSU is not very good.

>>62218296
Get a Tomohawk motherboard instead, they come in white and are really good.

>>62218475
They're essentially the same motherboard but ATX instead of mATX.

>>62218474
Is that not a micro board and micro case?>>62218469
I know, it's all the saem and IIRC you can really see that thing anyways, I only went white inadvertently because the parts were cheapish.

>>62218521
That's a mini ITX case, which is smaller than micro ATX. There's a mATX version of it too though.

>>62218536
(Which is called core v21 i believe)

>>62218296
Maybe step up to a 1700

>>62218585
No point unless he's wanting to do heavy productivity tasks or play games and render video at the same time. If he's playing video games, stepping up to a 1070 would be the better option here.

>look at graphics cards on logical increments
>decide on the $200 one
>try to add it on part picker
>2/3 of options for that model are sold out
>the rest are are $400-$500
what the fuck

>>62218755
welcome to 2017 enjoy your stay.

>>62218629
I have a 1600 and a 1070 and this is what I would reccomend, too.

>>62218755
The guy on LI refuses to show retail prices on his site and chooses to show MSRP. We told him it's stupid but he's sticking to his guns.

>>62217301
kys
t. lost silicon lottery because of you you fucks

>>62217302
lewd

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Anyone here had any experience with the Carbide 500R case? How is it?

>>62218755
My exact dilemma. I want to upgrade my old Radeon HD6950 to a Geforce 1060 6GB but holy fuck prices are ridiculous. Ram prices are also ridiculous now. Guess I'm stuck with my current build (hd6950, i5 2500k, ddr3 ram)... Should I just wait it out and upgrade later in the year? I just want to be able to play in 1440p :(

>>62216899
>intel nowhere on the recommended CPUs
I never thought I'd see the day.

>>62217639
>I don't know why people leave it in the OP
Upgrade path
Bristol Ridge APUs are the last hurrah for the Excavator based processors, which were a revision of Bulldozer with higher IPC

>>62219056
>later in the year
It won't be any better.

>>62219074
There are still reasons to buy Intel, but most people should be looking at Ryzen right now.

>>62219137
I hope with volta release it might be a bit better.

>>62216931
Its weaker than a 750 ti, no

Any tips for finding parts for a super low budget PC for under $150? I've looked at some builds on pcpartpicker but most of them are out of date or the parts are way more expensive than what they're posted as.

It just needs to be able to run Office and League of Legends.

I'm looking at various motherboards with M.2 slots, I would just like to know if having the slot under the top PCI-e slot can have any adverse effects on the SSD since most graphics cards are installed in said PCI-e slot

>>62219218
buy a used one.

>>62219260
it can lead to heat issues if the case doesn't have great airflow.

>>62219260
yes. having the m.2 slot below the top x16 pcie slot means the graphics card is above it which is bad for cooling the SSD. Look for a board with the m.2 slot above the PCIe slot. or one with a heatsink for it, but those are only found on much more expensive boards.

>>62219218
>League of Legends
I could sell you my old build for even less than $150, but you play the shittiest game ever so I won't.

>>62219323
for a friend, I play [spoiler]brood war[/spoiler]

>>62219335
Sorry nvm, I just checked usd value and it's trash. It would be closer to $200 now.

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Any major difference between the main SSD manufacturers in terms of quality and reliability?
Namely Samsung, Crucial and SanDisk. Samsung appears to be slightly more expensive.

>>62219409
They're all (those 3) within spitting distance of each other.
eeny meany miny mo.

>>62219409
Marketshare is the crucial factor for Samsung, since it's in the game in other fields besides tech such as tank manufactoring, building construction etc. Sandisk, Kingston, Crucial etc. are all known of worldwide, so it all comes down to your personal pick, and also capacity and speed

>everything assembled
>turn on, works great
>open disk drive to put in Windows 7 DVD
>disk drive doesn't open
>didn't plug it in
fug

>>62219137
>>later in the year
>It won't be any better.
then wat do?

>>62219692
Buy now or wait who the fuck knows how long.
But in the very short term it's actually getting worse.

>>62219681
>windows 7
>optical drive
You disgust me.

>>62219866
I built this desktop specifically for proprietary software and muh games.

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Has anyone else used this monitor?

It's an AOC e2260swdn 22" 1080p monitor. I need something for programming and gaming but I want to get a cheap monitor for now until I can save up to get a better one. Someone is offering to sell it for $35 on Letgo.

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>>62219866

>optical drive

Do you not keep ther discs of your old software in the event of a hard drive failure?

>>62219409
Samsung will most likely last you a bit longer, but the way SSDs work, it doesn't really matter who you choose among the major brands.

Buying an SSD is like buying a lottery ticket. Take the best deal you can get at the moment and hope you didn't get a sunday example.

HDDs are easier, just go WD or Toshiba. Rest is statistically proven shit.

>>62220065
I'd cash out the $99 required to get a brand new 24" 1080p IPS instead.

If money is an issue then just hop on the deal. I'd never personally buy a TN monitor if it wasn't specified for gaming though.

Is it true that my 1800x is actually 20°C cooler than sensors say?

>>62219602
>>62219609
>>62220180
>SSD info
Thanks.

>>62220259

By default, yes. The 20c offset is so there is thermal headroom for your cooling to ramp up when XFR kicks in. Some motherboard (notably x370 ones) let you disable and/or outright change the skew value.

>set RAM to 2933 in BIOS
>save and restart
>no longer outputs to monitor
What do? B350 Carbon Pro

>>62220351

Up the voltage.

>>62219008
I've had one for 3-4 years now. I like it quite a bit but I don't have a ton to go off of since its the only case I've ever had.

>>62220029
Which you need neither of those things to do. It's not 2011.

>>62220178
I don't use old software. And if I had software I couldn't do without that's not available online, I sure wouldn't store it on discs.

>>62219008
I have it right now, idk if I would recommend it unless it fits some requirements other cases don't have.

>>62220180
Okay, I think I'll go ahead and get it for now and then save up for a good monitor later

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My RAM says it's CL 16-18-18-38, but my BIOS has 4 timing number options. Which one do I skip?

>>62220440
Windows 7 has the best overall games compatibility, and I have old games to rip.

1080 for 490€ or
1070 for 405€
Which is the better value here?
From benchmarks the 1080 seems the better one to me.

>>62220533
>Anonymous 09/02/17(Sat)15:07:23 No.62220180▶>>62220271 >>6222
Nevermind I'm going to wait

>>62220713
2nd and 3rd are "the same timing" in a sense. If your timings are 4 sets of numbers, the 2nd and 3rd on your list are both the 2nd number.

>>62220750
1080. That 1070 price is super inflated.

>>62220794
Actually I enabled XMP and it set it automatically for me. Thanks for the help though

>>62220785
Nice meme

>>62220825
its really not a meme I would appreciate any help

>>62220839
First, read the OP.

>>62220804
On my country's Amazon 1070s have always been above 430€ so these are the best prices I've ever seen.

Why is there not a monitor thread?
Really can't decide on 34" 2560x1080 ultrawide or 27" 1440p144Hz monitor (GSync costs €145 extra, hot fucking damn)

Keep two, sell or consolidate the rest
>1700x + Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming 5
>1600 + ASUS PRIME X370-PRO
>6700 + GA-Z170X-Gaming G1 or GA-Z170N-Gaming 5

I'd like to downsize and consolidate my fleet. Just can't decide what to keep, or if I even need two computers.

>>62220713
Just use 16-18-18-18-38

>>62221084
What is your use case?
>>62221080
Because generals are fucking cancer, like screenfetch, mechanical keyboard, speccy, dpt, and others. Don’t encourage a new general

Part List
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dtpcXH

My budget is around $1500 at most
It would mostly be used for gaming such as Witcher 3, Deus Ex, Doom plus any other games coming out in the next couple of years
Monitor is 1920x1080 with 75 Hz refresh rate
Looking to improve specs at around the same price if possible

Any help is appreciated

My Ryzen r5 1600 crashes like a bitch when encoding at 3.8GHz/1.330v, is that normal?

>>62220884
Oh yeah you won't get mich better anywhere. Prices are fucked worldwide.

>>62220785
>read the OP
>i5 processors are not worth it
>z270 platform is not worth the money especially since it will be obsolete soon.
>ryzen 1600 + a B350 AM4 motherboard = ~$250
>unless you need the tempered glass meme case isn't worth it
>use saved money to get an 80+ gold PSU, an SSD, or even bump up to 1080
>don't pay for windows, literally ever

>>62221115
Fractal Design Define 4/5 and the Node 202

>>62221139

You might have lost the silicon lottery. Either up the voltage (ryzen is good for 1.42v with good cooling) or LLC. I would suggest moar volts and keep LLC to a low value (i.e non-aggressive) and try again.

For example my 1700 will do 3.8ghz at around 1.38v but 3.9 will spit out L1 cache errors regardless of voltage.

>>62221139
Did you even stress test your OC?

>>62221185
By use case i meant what do you use them for

>>62221273
Gaming, transcoding/encoding, general productivity

>>62221271
I did, it is pretty stable at 3.75Ghz/1.3v, but it's an ugly number and 3.8GHz with the same voltage newer crashed during normal usage.

>>62221126
Go with CM cooler (or AiO watercooler (NZXT Kraken x42 is good budget choice) if you plan to have a case with transparent side)
And since the case has tempered glass window, try to colourmatch the components, like black gpu and mobo if the case is black and etc. Or just buy those and stuff them in fully closed case (Fractal Design define r5)

>>62221084
Move the 1700x to the X370 motherboard with as much of the matching RAM as you can.

>>62221364
Both the Gigabyte and Asus board are x370.

>>62221387
Didn't read clearly enough, sorry. Did you buy all matching RAM for the three?

>>62221084
Hmmmmm. Hard decision. I think Ryzen would probably be better since it has more cores and is soldered. Its up to you though, if Skylake performs faster in something you do than Ryzen, get rid of 1600

>>62221395
Nothing is special about the Gigabyte RAM, but the Asus RAM is ECC, because it was originally intended to be used as a NAS box until it kept dropping the shares.

The RAM for the Intel boards is not matching, and unless they patched it out, is limited to 2400Mhz.

>>62216899
What Chinese keyboard should I get? I know people hate Razer but best buy has a blackwidow ultimate 2016 for zbout 60 usd.

>>62221336

>I did,

With what? Running WoW for an hour =/= prime95 or IBT using AVX.

>>62221471
You should be able to get a 6Gv2 for cheap.

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>>62217751
Not that anon but ty for the info was about to ask something related

>>62221476
I said I tested it nigger, prime95 and occt for few hours and it stayed alive. Going over 3.75GHz however seems to be too much for it to bear under high load and shit crashes unless I give it some insane voltage for the clock and core count.

>>62221235
Thanks for mentioning LLC, I tried changing it from auto to high and will see how it goes.

Hopefully I'm just retarded here, but I built a water cooled system and it won't stay on for more than a few seconds. What am I missing?

>>62221562
Never run auto LLC, pretty please

>>62221562

>Thanks for mentioning LLC, I tried changing it from auto to high and will see how it goes.

Got to be careful with LLC - aggressive settings can cause silly overshoot when the chip returns to idle.

>>62221577

Make sure your blocks are making contact with the die. Next step is to ensure there is enough waterflow to actually transfer heat from block -> radiator.

>>62221168
Ok I took your advice here is the new list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HkDWpb

My budget is around $1500 at most
It would mostly be used for gaming such as Witcher 3, Deus Ex, Doom plus any other games coming out in the next couple of years
Monitor is 1920x1080 with 75 Hz refresh rate
Looking to improve specs at around the same price if possible

I'm not to worried about an SSD right now since I'm going to pick that up in a month or 2 when I get some more money
Any more suggestions?

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Which 1080ti do I get? Currently have my eyes on:
Zotac AMP extreme
MSI gaming X
Asus RoG
Gigabyte Aorus

>>62221703
Get a 212 EVO as the cooler
Trade the HDD for an SSD

>>62221707
Also I'm currently using an ATX case with only 1 exhause fan

>>62221703
Don't get that cpu cooler, it's not even better than the one you get in the box.
Get some faster ram, 3200MHz ideally.
And get the SSD now, it's a pain to reinstall windows just a month after first setting it up.

>>62221707
Are the AMP extremes back in stock? I settled for a regular AMP.

>>62221605
How important is the order of my water cooling loop? As far as I can tell everything is connected properly.

>>62221736
>>62221742
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vKcpTH
Ok I got the 212 EVO cooler now
Also got 3200MHz ram
Are there any SSDs you recommend?
also should I be worried about the compatibility notes when it comes to the cooler and motherboard?

Ryzen is awful for gaming. Dont fall for it.

>>62221856

Unless one element of your loop is drastically close to your theorectical maximum dissipation, not really. I'd still wager on improper installation but beyond that look into what hardware is running hot and potentially causing a shutdown.

>>62221919
>gaming
CPU doesn't matter for gaming at this point. If you aren't buying a 1080ti your GPU is your bottleneck and you have no right to complain about Ryzen.

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My AMD Phenom II X4 955 has probably been obsolete for gaming for at least two or three years now. I didn't know as much about computers as I do now. when I built this machine seven years ago, so I not only want to upgrade but make a new gaming PC that's more suited to my life as a /g/ tard.

Gaming is the only hardware intensive thing I do. I bought a PlayStation 4 so I don't always have to do a boot into Windows but there's some games I just don't want to play with a controlleror and in the case of a strategy game like Endless Legend, isn't available for consoles. I'd like to be able to run these games on Windows 10 within a virtual machine so I wouldn't have to dual boot and can have 4chan and IRC on my second monitor. (I do this with my PS4 and I find it's the comfiest way to play games.) I guess my list of target benchmarks would look like;
> Killing Floor 2
> nuDoom
> Minecraft with shader mods (preferably within Linux)
> Dwarf Fortress.

I am a little confused as to what hardware has good support for pass-through for virtualization. I've done some research and it seems Nvidia chips detect if they're working in a virtual machine and refuse to work without extra steps to fool it. If this is true I'd rather not supporting Nvidia for this behavior. I've also heard something about a new virtualization technology that lets a single GPU work for a guest OS while still providing rudimentary graphics for the host. If this isn't far off I'd like to wait for it but I'm not sure what it's called, when it could expect it, or if it's true at all.

I would also like some advice or a good practices for using a ssd as my OS Drive running Linux. I plan for the windows VM to occupy its own storage Drive which may or may not be a solid state as well.

I'm thinking of spending somewhere around $1000-$1500 for what it is ultimately a behemoth toy of procrastination.

>>62221919
No it isn't.

>>62221917
Honestly just use the cooler it comes with. But yes you do need an AM4 bracket for the 212, and it may or may not come with the cooler. If it doesn't, you should be able to order one from cooler master for free i believe.

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>>62216899
I've had my PC for 4 years now and have been gradually upgrading it over time. Most recent thing was the GPU, thing I haven't upgraded is the CPU.

What I want to know is, is upgrading this CPU worth it? I've been noticing that I'm having some occasional frame stutter in more demanding games like Gears 4, and I want to keep it staying stable. Would upgrading my CPU help with this?

>>62221983
>24GB
impressive.
also why do you keep the 660 in?

>>62221983
Honestly, unless you change the motherboard, ram and CPU at once for a 6 core Ryzen chip or better, upgrading the CPU within the platform won't help

>>62221999
It was my original GPU from 2013, I keep it dedicated to physx so that there's less pressure on the 1070 for physx games.

>>62222007
>unless you change the motherboard, ram and CPU at once for a 6 core Ryzen chip
what do you mean by this?

>>62222059
even new i5's have trouble with gaming stutter, and on occasion, the i7's too. The time for Moar cores and Moar threads has come

I do not know if Denmark websites ship to the US, but I've been able to find MSRP 580's & 570's available for sale on foreign websites.

>>62219866
>optical drive

non organic dye Blurays etch the recording layer and it is good for 30+ years unlike hdd, ssd, flash

>>62222113
If I wanted to keep data for 30 years I wouldn't keep it on a disc.

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>>62222075
>have to spend over $400 on a processor to get rid of stuttering in a game
PC gaming is dead.

>>62222176
I have a 1600 and a 1060 6gb and i dont get stutters?????????????????????????

>>62222148

I, too, welcome our tape based overlords.

>>62222176
>over $400 on a processor
An AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6 core, 12 thread CPU is currently under $200..

So after fixing the bent pins on my 1800x it works. Should I worry about overclocking it or will it be fine?

>>62222203
should be fine

>>62222193
I was more thinking of multiple redundancy on different hard drives and servers, but I guess tape works too for archiving.

>>62222215
Sweet. Still can't believe I fixed it. What's a safe overclock on a B350 Carbon Pro with a Noctua NH D15? 4.0 1.35v?

1500$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HfnDLD

>>62222148

Multiple redundant formats, always.

Disc is the cheapest, allowing massive redunduncy for the most important data. $18 to send out x2 or more redundant discs of family pix to the extended family keeps them off my back for decades.

>>62222237
>4.0 1.35v
if you can get that with 1.35 you can be happy.
1.45 is as high as I'd go for an everyday OC.

>>62222323
The native boost clock is 4.0 anyway, right?

>>62222323

>1.45 is as high as I'd go for an everyday OC.

Not on ryzen you don't. 1.42v is the safe upper limit for all core overclocks - XFR does its own thing.

>>62222336
wait you said 1800x, I'm a retard. I have no idea how that one overclocks, so just disregard my post.

>>62222348

It doesn't. Early steppings will push 4.2ghz all core with loads of volts, newer steppings (basically anything made after threadripper) still only hit 4.2ghz tops but will do so at slightly less silly voltage.

>>62222200
>AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6 core
>recommending AMD to people
>>>/out/

>>62221946
Consider the following:
>R5 1600
>GTX 1070
>16 GB of DDR4 ram over 2133 MHz
>SSD
>HDD

Install windows 10 on ssd and disable obvious spyware for vidya

Install linux on hdd for dual boot

Done, no need for vm crap

>>62222374
The Ryzen series isn't like the FX series. AMD's Ryzen series have similar, and in most cases, identical, performance to the Broadwell E series from the X99 platform.
>but IPS
has drastically improved on Ryzen. It's, again, similar to broadwell E

Cryorigi said they would be sending the brackets for AM4 at some point. The email for this was on August 1st. How the hell do I get them to send it quicker? They're not responding at all.

>Do a 1700x build
>All of my previous EVGA RAM doesn't run at full speed
>Sell spare RAM and buy Corsair RAM that's explicitly supported in the QVL
>Still doesn't run at full speeds

Am I missing something? Are we NOT supposed to use XMP/DOCP?

What RAM is guaranteed to work?

>>62222371
How do I get 4.0? 1.4v? Also I heard there were some issues with using 3200mHz RAM with 40gHz, was that fixed in the May BIOS updates as promised?

>>62222378
>>62221946
>trying to disable Win10 spyware
Don't bother.

>>62222437
What speed are you trying to run and what RAM is it?

>>62222454
this, it's literally useless unless you want to stay on a buggy and unfinished OS forever,, and the only reasons to use windows 10 require you to install updates..

How do I find a Motherboard's QVL? To be specific, I'm trying to find MSI's X370 Carbon Pro QVL but I can't even find anything labeled QVL on the manufacturer page. Please help, thanks.

thoughts on this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2ZfTLD

>>62222472
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16

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>>62222443

>How do I get 4.0? 1.4v?

On a 1800x? Moar volts. On 1700 and 1700x? run the lottery.

>Also I heard there were some issues with using 3200mHz RAM with 40gHz, was that fixed in the May BIOS updates as promised?

Depends on the kit and mobo. My own corsair vengeance kit won't do 3200mhz at "stock" but will do just fine if I up impudence to 80ohm.

>>62222437

If the mobo supports it (like most x370 boards do) up the impudence to 80ohm.

>>62222507
Carbon Pro B350
NH-D15
Otherwise looks good.

>>62222437
Corsair fucked up by using samsung memory in earlier revisions (which works great with ryzen) and then switching to hynix for later revisions (which is shit on ryzen) without even changing the model numbers, so QVL for corsair is often useless because it's based on earlier revisions no longer available.

Any G.skill at 3200 CL14 should have samsung b-die and work great on ryzen. You could also try waiting a bit for agesa 1.0.0.7 which should improve compatibility with hynix memory.

>>62222542
Sweet, I'll just pump it up. Do you think 1.4 will do it?

>>62222542
That's some high usage, what are you doing?

>>62222574
My Hynix sticks are working fine at 3200, guess I got lucky? Maybe they're actually Samsung.

>>62222512
Hm, I've actually read conflicting reports about this particular series of RAM. Some people get the rated speeds, others just can't. Perhaps Corsair did change to Hynix modules for the same kits without changing the part numbers like the other anon said.

>>62222507
looking good

>>62222587

Certainly don't go over 1.4v without extensive stress testing.

>>62222598

The picture covers it - i'm boincing on 12 of the 16 threads my 1700 has.

>>62222487
Please help.

Benchmarks of the AM4 Athlon X4 950 compared with the G4560, it keeps up with the G4560 and that's without being overclocked, there's absolutely no reason to buy any Pentium CPU now.

https://youtu.be/CMXH4LkseuA

What is the objectively best case in the $100-$150 range?

>>62222655
So 1.4 is definitely safe? How will I know if it isn't working well?

>>62222664
What do you want help with? You can't remove Windows 10 spyware. You can use Windows 7 and be careful when choosing what updates you install.

>>62222605
If it's revision 4 or lower it's probably samsung. Afaik it's possible to get 3200 CL16 with hynix for some people but it's rare.

AM4 suggested coolers? to go with 1600x.

Prefer something that actually comes ready to install.

>>62222692
Define R5.

>>62222722
The NH D15 brackets take 30 seconds to install.

>>62222722
Noctua are easy to install. Either get one that comes with the AM4 bracket or order the bracket separately. The ones that come with it should indicate that.

>>62222736
Are you talking about those separate mounting kits listed?

>>62222722
Anything from Noctua, the ones already AM4 compatible always end with AM4 in their name, like NH-D15 SE-AM4. I like the U12S personally.

>>62222695

>So 1.4 is definitely safe? How will I know if it isn't working well?

Simple, it will either throttle or crash.

>>62222775
Get the AM4 edition, it comes with them.

>>62222806
And I'll be able to boot to BIOS to fix it?

>first time builder
>spent the last few months researching and making builds, youtube, reviews, /pcb/
>finally pulled the trigger after hours and hours of figuring out what to buy on my budget

now that everything is actually ordered, i feel a little empty, you know what they say about a hunter without the hun

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>>62221923
So this is what I'm actually trying to do, water cool two systems simultaneously. I know trying that is a bad idea, but would adding another pump potentially fix my issue?

>>62222822
I am just starting so I will be going through that as well. Hope the build goes well

>>62222822
List and budget?

>>62222817

Sure - while ryzen doesn't throttle down in BIOS there is still virtually zero load so its is extremely unlikely to crash in the bios. In the unlikely scenario it does just reset CMOS.

>>62222829

While this is getting beyond my expertise i'm betting that pump isn't powerful enough to provide enough waterflow to a loop that long.

>>62222889
Sweet, I'm going to bed now and I'll overclock tomorrow after church. Thanks for the help!

>>62222829
what pump are you using?

>>62222854
good luck, its a fun process

>>62222868
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MXWhQV

no bully

>>62222925
https://www.amazon.com/XSPC-Photon-Reservoir-Pump-Combo/dp/B06XCSWHW2/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1504393346&sr=1-3&keywords=XSPC+X4+Photon+270

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>>62222950
Pretty standard selection there, no bullying necessary.

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>>62222750
>>62222798
>>62222810
Thanks guys, did a little more research and I see the recommendations are also because they don't interfere with ram placement like alot of other "AM4 Compatiable" coolers are being complained about.

Still a bit pricey though and not planning on pushing the 1600x beyond whats already stock.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAADY5BC4478&cm_re=am4_noctua-_-13C-0005-00113-_-Product

Is it okay if I get the above? Or any other suggestions for AM4 out-of-box (or very least a company that will actually send the goddamn brackets) ready cooler?

>>62223002
>not overclocking
The stock coolers are great for stock or even light overclocking.

>>62222950
What are you using it for? How will it be expected to run?

1500$, gayming only.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HgNCxY

>>62222950
You madman why do you think you can live off of anything less than a terabyte? And why are you getting the R5? You dont need a HDD cage. Get the Define S or C depending on the size you want
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CxCYxY

>>62222986
>The pump has a flow rate of 600lph, a powerful head delivery of 3m
>powerful head delivery of 3m
>powerful

you are trying to drive two systems worth of resistance with a mid pressure pump, adding a second pump would help

also, I would mount that pump/resivior vertically. It might just be because of the clear fluid, but i looks like the level might be below the intake of the pump.

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>>62223078
>rx 580
>anything less than $500

>>62223032
every day desktop for gaming and normal use. Im sitting on an ancient system right now that's going strong for over 9 years, so im literally jumping a decade forward in technology. I was checking my current ram the other day, turns out im actually on DDR2 ram right now

i expect it to crush the 1080p gaming i plan on using it for

>>62223140
I can't mount it vertically due to it being inside a desk, and i'm still working on getting all the air out of the reservoir.
Can you recommend a pump i can add to the loop?

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>>62223155
https://www.komplett.dk/product/919583/hardware/pc-komponenter/grafikkort/pci-express/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-8gb-gaming#

>>62223101
>You dont need a HDD cage

i have an 1 tb HDD laying around im gonna use, i also ordered an optical drive that I didnt include in the list. i know why it would be confusing without that context

ive been looking for a case with optical drivebays for a good while for a decent price, they seem to be VERY out of style these days.

you could also question why im using a huge case like R5 for an mATX board, but again comes back to the optical drive that i absolutely want

>inb4 why you need an optical drive bro

Just quite literally stumbled across an i7 7700k. What's the cheapest option for an optimal setup in regards to RAM & motherboard?

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>>62222200
So this would be better than what he had? >>62221983

>>62223249
give it back, jamal

>>62222222

>>62223177
that will run 1080p well? Nice man good build

>>62223101
>>62223226
also one more thing, i picked the R5 case, because its supposedly really quiet, and it also seems like a very solid 'base' case for future builds because its super versatile. if i want to make another build maybe 4-5 years down the line, i feel like the R5 will still be relevant, unless something drastic happens

>>62223306
hopefully it will crush 1080p gaming

has someone insane and retarded put 2 vega 64s in crossfire yet?

>>62223343
Kinda?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2LfETRx4Vc

>>62223194
hold the reservoir vertically temporarily just to get all the air out, then you can cap it and mount it on its side again.

any DDC pump should be good, although you may want to get one with a heatsink due to less airflow in your desk

Thoughts for gaming?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6nqFVY

>>62223457
Try to sacrifice on some stuff & get a 1700 instead w/ stock cooler. You can like, 3.5 on a stock 1700.

>>62221917
use the stock cooler the 1600 and upgrade to something later if you're overclocking and having temperature issues.

get an SSD now, something like this to install your OS, and get a mechanical drive later down the road. As has been said, transferring the OS or reinstalling can be a bitch
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F9G43WU/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3I21RMD2BI1J&colid=2L47AG9KL37YM

>>62223485
more like 3.7

>>62223485
a stock 1700 is about the same price as a 1600 with what I have
so I don't think I need to sacrifice anything
is the 1700 or 1700X better in your opinion

>ryzen
>supports 3200 mhz ram
>alright guess i'll get that, this motherboard on newegg says it works
>build pc
>won't post
>mobo website says 2667 is the max clock speed supported

DUDE RYZEN LMAO

how is this not supported how fucking retarded

>>62223549
1700 if you plan to overclock, 1700x if you don't. If your gonna get an x, get an aftermarket cooler because it does not come with a stock one.

>>62223561
maybe you shouldn't have bought a shitty mobo lol

>>62223561
Should've read the QVL retard.

Noctua air coolers for Threadripper on their way:
https://youtu.be/sxGD5WyCuhw

>>62223593
or maybe ryzen shouldn't be shit

should have known not going with intel would cause some hurdles at the minimum

>>62223643
Every AM4 board I've seen so far supports up to 3200, which board did you buy??

>>62223643
You're fucking retarded. You wouldn't even have to have read the QVL, all you had to do was go on the manufacturer page, click specs, and look at "maximum memory frequency". All you had to do was do the minimum possible research, but no, you didn't do that and now you're crying on /pcbg/.

>>62223643
>buying no name ram
>buying shitty mobos
>trusting comment section "reviewers"
>not doing your homework

anon, I...

>>62223577
I don't plan on overclocking but I will leave the option there for me
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VYKrkT

anything else you would change?

>>62223643

You do realise Intel only officially supports 2133mhz on most of their DDR4 supporting chips right? Ryzen officially supports 2666mhz.

GTX 1180 best be an upgrade from the 1080ti

>>62223667
Get the B350 Pro Gaming Carbon, X370 won't make any difference for you.
Get an EVGA or Seasonic PSU, they have good quality PSUs. If you get an EVGA one don't get a SuperNova NEX though.

Zen 2 wen?

>>62223674
"officially supports" is a joke, every mobo manufacturer allows for faster RAM than the standard

>>62223659
ab350m pro4

>>62223693
Late 2018

>>62223696

All of which is technically overclocking and grounds to have an RMA denied if shit explodes.

>>62223664
well maybe newegg should update their shit because it said 3200 was supported

>>62223689
what is wrong with the corsair?
It seems to fit my needs and at a great price

>>62223431
Thanks for the help, man!

>>62223758
That great price is the problem, they're really bad quality. I've had two Corsair PSU's be DOA, just don't risk it. It's only like 20 bucks more.

>>62223777
solid?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RThHHN

>>62223790
Yeah. Go ahead and buy it.

>>62223704
i was looking to buy that board too, it seems to have horrible ram support

i was reading somewhere you can maybe save it by updating it, have you tried that?

How is overclocking ECC RAM?

>>62217611
>>62217578
Strix X370-F or B350-F. Hero and extreme are all geared towards heavy overclockers(same VRM). X370F also have decent VRMs, but different(uses IR3555(?)instead of nexFETs, still very good mosfets).

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>>62223704

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>>62223790
>Corsair 300R
My nigga, you're gonna love that thing, it looks sleek, is cheap, and it decently built, also easy to work inside for a novice like me.

>>62223818
can't see anything saying that online, so i'm probably just fucked and i'll have to try underclocking or just getting new ram

So with a 7700K I need to buy a cooler? What's a good cooler?

>>62223851
Noctua

>>62223847
>o man u didnt pay 500 bucks for your motherboard stupid retard xDDD

you got me

>>62223849
i was almost memed into buying that, but i doubble checked and tripled checked that it did not support my ram, so i went with an MSI board instead that DOES support my ram

im suspecting you bought those corsair black ram right?

>>62223848
It was between the 200R and 300R for me
I went with the 300R so I had more space for a cooler in case it needed a bracket
It looks nice and simple with plenty of space for me

how many fans would you recommend? Right now I'm using the 2 default and adding 3 140mm ones

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VpvJLD

Tweak this build, literal sole reason I haven't gotten it yet is I'm waiting to see if Coffee Lake is worth it.

I actually have the money now so I'm not talking out of my ass.

I realize the ram's like $40 more than it needs to be, but everyone freaks the fuck out if it's not 14-14-14-34

>>62223864
There are no $500 AM4 boards, retard.

>>62223874
nah some gskill shit

i don't think my problem has anything to do with the manufacturer, just the goddamn clock speed

>>62223883
i was exaggerating, retard

>>62223851

Noctua NH D15 if you want the best, but it's heavy as fuck.

Go with AIO if you want space and less mass hanging off the side, and if your case is small.

>>62223879
I'm not even using the front one, just the rear exhaust and my FX-8350 is only hitting 62C or so, so you should be good on the AM4.

>>62223880
>I'm waiting to see if Coffee Lake is worth it
SPOILER ALERT: it won't be

>>62218005
>Looking to build a new machine with the 8-core Threadripper.
Why would you do that? Are you planning to stay in the TR socket and upgrade to more cores before the socket upgrades?

>>62223899

4.7 on one core and 2 extra cores, so as long as you don't lose IPC compared to a 7700k it will be if it's not priced crazy higher

>>62223880
Get a 1700, do you need RGB memory?

>>62223921

1700 is considerably weaker in many games and I'm trying tp push it for a 144hz display.

1700x was $300 for the last few days, almost pulled the trigger on a build for it too.

RGB isn't a must, but thought I'd do something cool.

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>>62223918
>if it's not priced crazy higher
>Intel

>>62223944
>>62223921

Before you spaz the fuck out, I said weaker, not bad.

>>62223861
>>62223895
Okay, and that's like $90.

What's a maximum effect for minimum price option? I technically got the 7700K by a fluke and need to figure out if I can even manage to afford the parts to use it. Right now it isn't looking good.

>>62223944
Yeah the 7700k is the king for gaming right now, but the 1700 is more futureproof.

It's your money, nothing's objectively wrong with it.

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>>62222378
>no need for vm crap
I don't want to stop what I'm doing on my main computer just because I want to play some Killing Floor 2. I can get a similar second screen experience with my laptop at my desk but it's much nicer to use a larger monitor that's already on my desk. I also feel it would be safer to avoid running Windows on bare metal. I think I saw someone claim you can create a dual boot setup and have virtualbox run the bare metal install of Windows in a VM. So I could build my computer with Windows virtualization being an option for later. Do all the parts you listed support PCI pass-through?

Also, why do you recommend giving a SSD to Windows and runing Linux on a hard drive?

and finally. . .
>implying Microsoft will honor what privacy settings I choose

>>62223966

Eh, I think they know better now.

What I can see is it being a bit higher than a 7700k in price rather than them lowering the price of a 7700k.

>>62223976

1700x isn't future proofed for dick except app multitasking, by the time games (if ever) have the performance resulting code in more than one thread and not just from Draw Calls that even virtual cores help with...the CPU will be irrelevant.

CL is hopefully a balance.

i just installed ssd + OS on it, formatted my hdd to use as file storage...pics vids music documents have the path to the hdd...
checked if windows defragments my ssd...its disabled...
is there anything else i should care about ?

also my hdd makes the exact same sound as when i used to shut down my pc before i had ssd....it's a short *click" as if the hdd turned off but everything's working

So i I'm not wasting my money on Windows what should I be doing?
Should I be using a different OS or do you guys want me to torrent it?

>>62223972

There's probably a very worthwhile $60 air and AIO option but I can't recall the names.

im just scared ill make some dumb mistake with all these relatively expensive machinery

>oh you're not supposed to drill the motherboard directly into the
>half the pins just broke because you pushed too hard
>something important just fried because you plugged the wrong thing into it

i can just see it happen

>>62223822
Do you need the extra SATA/USB ports or SLI/CF support? If not then B350 should be enough.

>>62224077
>something important just fried because you plugged the wrong thing into it

Literally impossible UNLESS you plug the 24pin/12v connector into something it shouldn't be in.

>>62224056
>windows 7 home premium 8$
>not wasting my money on windows
>should i torrent it ?
what's your real problem ?

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Do these not play together? They don't want to fit and the pins seem floaty, am I missing something?

>>62224077
99% of build videos cover 2 of those, 1 is impossible. Just do some research, watch a few videos, and have a friend / video guide you though the build process. Honestly, it's easy. Lego for adults.

>>62224106

Who took that pic, M J Fox ?

>>62224098
I have no problem at all
I was just asking since games are supposed to be supported on windows 10 so I was going to buy it but some anon told me not to
was just asking about it since you guys know more than I do

>>62224120
Hahaha funny joke and your penis is very large it impresses all the Asian women, now answer pls?

>>62224134

Rule #1 of anything on 4chan is if other people on other forums don't agree, then it's just some retard autistic opinion being screeched for some retard autistic reason.

>>62224134
idk much either...but yeah games work on windows i guess....
so go for windows 7 unless you want the new directX + nsa on your shit 24/7

>>62224150

As if every smart phone hasn't had that for the last 8 years.

>>62224106
They fit, but those pins really do move around and sometimes it's difficult to connect them. Try to align them until you get it right.

>>62224119
will try

>>62224077
I bent around 20 pins on a $400 CPU and fixed it with a pair of tweezers. You can do it anon!

>>62216931
>mfw Nvidia finally upgraded the xx30 GPU from Fermi
Took them long enough

>>62224077
Watch some videos, RTFM and you'll do fine. It's not very complicated. If something doesn't seem to fit, don't use excessive force and make sure you're not somehow fucking up.

http://poal.me/uln6nx

>>62220065
I have this monitor, it's great. Bezels are indeed fuckhuge though, so it'll be kinda fugly if you put it in a dual monitor setup.

im trying to find an answer for this since 3 weeks but not once someone ever replied

>dell xps14 ( l421x ) ultrabook
>cpu and gpu are at 50° at start up
>idle 60°-70°
i cleaned the old thermal paste with 72% alcohol thoroughly and put on the arctic mx2 for the 10th time maybe nothing changed
there is no dust inside at all...even the fan is completly dustfree
all windows updates taken...nothing suspicious on task manager or cpu usage

>>62224294

Stress and time have caused shit to bend so proper contact isn't made, enough that it turns on, but not enough to cool properly.

>>62224217
you can still buy Fermi brand new

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gt+730

>>62224318
the plates are bend ? dafuq

can I move a hard drive (with files on it) from my current computer to my new computer without losing the files (or formatting it)?

>>62224341

not the plates, meant that's normal for old stuff, boards get micro fractures and stress cracks.

But temps like that on a mobile, something isn't running as fast as it should be assuming you applied paste properly.

Compare your temps to people that just got it and/or reviews of it

>>62222829
Linus pls go

>>62224368

Yeah, as long as you have a working OS still installed and connected that the boot record recognizes.

>>62223905
It seems to have the best single core performance out of the Ryzen lineup, while still having a good number of cores.

>>62224394
>>62224368

The drive you're adding can also have an OS on it, just don't try to boot form it because it won't work, and you shouldn't be able to anyways since the boot record or we/ the fuck 7/10 calls it won't recognize it, but it will see it once you get into windows and you can access w/e you want

>>62224435
Makes no sense to pay the $100 extra for a Threadripper chip and mobo if you're not gonna get the extra cores.

Either just put it towards a better mobo and cooler on AM4 Ryzen or save up a bit more for the 12 or 16 core Threadripper and rape everything.

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Killer build incoming
Intel/Nvidia BTFO
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4HyM8

>>62224435
the added latency between the two dies negates that very slight single thread advantage.
Threadripper 8 core is slower in gaymes than

>>62224512
first
get a proper CPU cooler
also
480W power supply is too less...get 700W

>>62224512
A++ photoshop skillz, I lol'd

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Alright so I got the part to fit, first build, did what I could with cable management. Do I need to go back and try again?
>tfw scared to turn on computer
Feels bad

>>62224587
Just turn on that gaudy ass board, you shit.

>>62224587
bought the same card, looks really nice with matching white mobo and white case love it, i bought a case without a window to avoid looking at my abomination of colour mismatch, functionality is king

>>62224632
Turns on, stays on, but no picture. Damn. Does it need to be plugged into the board?

>>62224587
jesus christ how many fans do you have, are you trying to make actual snow inside the case

>>62224587
where're your ram sticks

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>>62224659
Lel 6
>>62224664
Oh fug

>>62224691
>clean white matching look
>RED GLARING 2006 LED STYLE RAVE

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>>62224587
>>62224691
>mfw you forgot the RAM

>>62224716
I know, they're hand me downs. I bought the case, cpu and board but not the fans or ram. Speaking of ram, which is #1? The one closest to the cpu cooler?

Eventually I'll invest in different ram, neutral or white led fan, and a different cooler. For now I want this thing started though.

>>62224746
>which is #1?
Check mobo manual

>>62224746
why are you even turning it on without RAM?

>>62224765
TO SEE THE LEDS DUH
>>62224755
Be right back

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>>62224746

>>62224501
>save up a bit more for the 12 or 16 core Threadripper
Why would I pay more money for worse performance on the workloads I care about?

>>62224521
>slower in gaymes
Don't care. Inter-core latency shouldn't be a problem for my Coq and Rust builds, which are purely single-threaded.

Though, looking at the numbers again, I may downgrade to the 1800X. It's a 5-7% performance hit, but after factoring in the motherboard and cooling it's something like $350 cheaper.

>>62224587
why is your only exhaust fan on the bottom? Definitely change the orientation of the rear fan so it's pushing air out as well.

>>62224779
kinda jelly i didnt get a white board now fuck, why does everything ayymd have to be puke red

>>62224798
not him, but how do you tell which ways it inhales/exhausts? also is the "overpressure" "underpressure" a meme or legit

>>62224803
because GAYMING

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>>62224803
>>62224824
I kinda like my red XFX card and the way it goes with the board, but a sexy black 990FX-UD3 board would've been ideal for this rig which is built for rendering.

>>62224821
on the top fans, you can see the four braces connecting the central fan hub to the outer frame; those are almost always found on the side which is receiving air

top fans should almost always be pushing air OUT

Rate my desperate attempt to piece together a trash can rig to be able to use this CPU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fqcpTH

>>62224843
>>62224798
Oh fuck me, I just spun them and guessed. So brackets means air coming IN? I have to flip everything

>>62224821
>>62224863
the braces are the side pushing air OUT, the side with the blades uncovered pull air IN. And sometimes on the side of fans there will be a small direction arrow.

>>62224863
look on the sides sometimes it has arrows