Are you ready for this to come to america?

>>62125896
>

“The criticism from the Western media is biased and it ignores China’s development and achievements in the internet industry in the past few years. The censorship has not created obstacles for innovation and development, and this proves that the policy is at least suitable for China.

> Not only China, but many other countries, including the US and many European countries have been strengthening control over the internet for national security reasons … The idea of sovereignty also applies to cyberspace, and countries have a right to implement policies to govern their own cyberspace. The West has no right to condemn China on cyberspace governance.”

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>>62125896
This is some spooky shit mane but sometime I think maybe this is what the internet needs

>>62125919
>this is what the internet needs
You hate 4chan then?

>>62125919
>someone says mean things about linux
>LMAO I LOVE DICTATORSHIPS NOW!

>>62125908
Nowhere pirate cyberspace here we come.

n its announcement, the CAC has told online communities that they must not allow posting of any kind which is counter to national regulations (see list below), additionally the body said that the platforms should thoroughly investigate any users they think are using fake names and they must also retain all user data for government inspection.

Chinese internet users should avoid doing the following under the new rules:

opposing the principles of the constitution of China
endangering national security, revealing state secrets, subverting state power, and undermining national reunification
damaging national honor and interests
inciting national hatred, ethnic discrimination, and undermining national unity
undermining the state’s policies on religion or promoting cults and feudal superstitions
spreading rumours or disrupting social order
spreading obscenity, pornography, violence, terror, or abetting a crime
insulting or slandering others and infringing upon the lawful rights and interests of others
violating any other laws and regulations

The new rules come hot on the heels of the outlawing of Virtual Private Networks; the clamping down of online freedoms is seen by most to be preparatory measures for the upcoming 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China where the leadership of the country will be picked for the upcoming term.

>>62125933
You don't?

>>62125944
Who said anything about linux?

Who really wants to comment on the internet anymore? The loudest most ignorant people are usually in the comment sections everywhere anyways.

There's barely any reason to give the internet that kind of acknowledgement these days.

>>62125896
>pic related
old news is so exciting

>>62126027
Its from today you mongoloid.

>>62125896
No because the Communists lost the election in 2016.

>>62125896
>Black Twitter dies overnight because 75% of it is self-reported crimes in progress
Yes please.

>>62126032
the policy has been implemented for months

>>62126015
This, at least now we can see retards for who they are. Like if they posted here it'd be under their real names so everyone can see what retards they are. That might deter most people from acting stupid online.

>>62125957
>
endangering national security, revealing state secrets, subverting state power, and undermining national reunification

Oh they are always welcome to come here to 4chan and reveal state secrets!

>>62125908
I can hear the Taiwanese data center companies rubbing their hands together from here.

i had a dream about this shit years ago

nerds created their own seperate internet, away from all the corporate bullshit, where you could call people cunts all the live-long day without repercussion

then the governments started taking over the new deperate internet

>>62125919
>but sometime I think maybe this is what the internet needs
Literally kys.

>>62126512
Unless you're a child sex trafficker from Taiwan or looking at underaged girls you have nothing to fear.

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>>62125896
That's pretty cool. I just thought about this yesterday as a very effective method to stop the right wing spam that's going on right now.

>>62126523
>you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide
Where have I heard this before.

>>62126524
This is the laziest b8 I've seen today.

>>62126536
I'm completely honest. I bet people would think twice about spamming this shit on the internet if their real identities were tied to it.

China can do whatever they want. They already have a "great firewall" to keep out all the wrongthink. None of that shit's coming here.

>>62125957
>infect chinese computers with your botnet
>use their computers to post porn and guro on chinese sites
>some poor fucks get in trouble
I hope someone is doing this

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>>62126523

>>62126588
But there's already an international equivalent of that:
>infect computer with your botnet
>post CP on websites
>get raped in jail

>>62126569
I wouldn't mind saying right wing things since my entirely family is, and all my friends are, but I probably wouldn't share about my yellow fever

>>62126604
Difference is if they manage to realise it's a botnet doing it and somehow trace it back to you, you are in trouble for spreading CP. If you aren't chinese you aren't in trouble for posting porn. You would also have to possess CP in the first place

This will come to the west as all, they'll call it "fighting hate speech". Then the internet is dead for good. Finally.

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>>62125944 (((You)))
>DICTATORSHIPS
Oh yeah goyim, lets "liberate" the oppressed heheheh, democracy and freedom for everyone.

>>62126627
>Then the internet is dead for good. Finally.
What should take its place though?

>>62125896
> Activating a phone here requires some basic proof of id already
> even payphones are disappearing
> thinking it's not already here/there

>>62126644
websites hosted in 3rd world countries that you only access with vpn.

>>62126060
>What would really happen
>You get 20 years of prison and chemically castrated for misgendering someone online

>>62126719
Or for not having a exactly 50/50 split of men, women, and each race of minorities split contributing on your open source project.
>that equals more than 50%
yeah, so? call me out on it and you'll get jail time, fucko

>>62126569
You do realize that some of the greatest works of literature in our history had to be published anonymously, right? A world where you only think what those in per want you to think isn't a good one.

>>62126066
No it hasn't.

>>62126627
I can see this coming within 5 years. All it takes is another act of terrorism committed by the alt-right.

>>62126523
Keep telling yourself this, hopefully you'll kill yourself when it finally happens.

>>62126848
>identity politics
grow up

>>62126643
Fuck off you literal commie.

>>62126075
That's retarded, who cares if people act stupid online? Trading your freedoms for something like that is the real epitome of stupidity.

>>62126610
right wing and asian fetishism go hand in hand. what other group of people worships white men?

>>62126855
Politics is 100% identity politics. Why do you think there are only 2 major parties in the US?

>>62126880
media and those in power keeping it that way for personal gain, obviously.

>>62126866
t. Trump slave

>>62125896
Can't work in America, they don't even have IDs there

>>62126892
Fuck off commie

>>62127052
nice identity politics, faggot. you know nothing about my political views

>>62126892
People by nature are tribalistic and therefore are naturally drawn to identity politics.

>>62127063
yet it's possible to have civil discussion and not strawman your debate opponents and dismiss them as a person out of hand. why is that? hint: it has to do with treating other humans like humans instead of ideologies that you label them as.

>>62127057
Not him, but your personal views don't mean anything. Your intentions don't mean anything. Say the wrong keywords and a lynch mob with pitchforks would be at your door.

>>62127083
exactly, and that's thanks, in part, due to this fucking insane 'us vs them' mentality. anon and i might disagree on, say, voters rights, or where tax money should come from for road repair, but we might agree on abortion laws, environmental laws, or public funding for abuse shelters. However, the moment anon finds out I'm (not) in support of x, which is the first topic discussed, suddely i'm evil, worse than hitler, a fundie/a leftist, or whatever. We're all human, we are far more than 1 or 0 in terms of beliefs

>>62127073
I've tried civil discussion at various places before (reddit, forums, 4chan). It almost never works.

>>62127110
because of the 'us vs them' mentality of identity politics heaped together with people trolling for LE LELS. I feel our discussion is civil, and while anon may call me a communist, minus the original retort this convo has been civil. it's so much easier to just resort to false flags, baits, insults, whatever, but if you stay civil with people who are disagreeing with you eventually they will either give up or grow up and be civil with you/others in the conversation.

>>62127104
t. centrist turbofaggot
lmaoing @ your life, pussy

>>62127164
strong arguments, all around anon. I'm not a centerist, but I have the decency to treat people with respect

>>62125919
But most people are doing it by choice. This only hurts people like us.

>>62127202
>us

>>62127210
You are currently posting anonymously online, as am I. Thus, 'us'.

so the chinese youtube comment section is full of helpful replies and discussion?

>>62126569
um the president of the united states has no problem doing it so I don't think anyone else will care

>>62127312
The real name policy didn't exactly help against trolling when YouTube tried it in the west.

>>62127360
um i dont see peoples real names when I read the comment section

>>62127380
That's because they disabled it again.

>>62127380
it was removed, obviously.

>>62127387
>>62127384
well apparently it worked then otherwise people wouldn't mind it

>>62125896
It's already happening you faggot, remember Facebook real name policy? Or how you can't register a Google or Twitter account without SMS verification? And then other small websites only offer FB/Google/Twitter login? We're already living in a deanonymized world.

>>62125957
>undermining the state’s policies on religion or promoting cults and feudal superstitions

There goes /x/.

>>62126500
It's time for blockchain internet to address this. Decremtralize the fuck out of everything. The only thing that's keeping me going at this point is "muh constitution."

>>62127655
*decentralize

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>>62127450
Tragic as fuck. The depressing thing is just how few people even value anonymity. Normalfags already want their real identity on everything on account of their massive egos and generally narcissistic personalities, so they don't give a fuck. They hold whatever opinion™ is currently trending and have 0 desire to see or hear anything that challenges their worldview so they have no concern of censorship. The most rabid SJWs actually encourage it. For the most part, the people who condemn this type of change are those who have no strong voice or power in society. The current generation will have grown up in a world where being tracked at all times is normal. What really disappoints me is that 15-20yrs from now, no one will notice or care about the state of things, it'll just be "the way things are". The desire for anonymity will be seen as a crazy and fringe idea, replied to by the masses with "Who cares?"

>>62126880
>Why do you think there are only 2 major parties in the US?
Maybe the winner takes all election system.

>>62127679
glad she's got nothing to hide with those taytays

>>62127450
>Or how you can't register a Google account without SMS verification
You can get around this by having a recovery email and picking a shithole country.
>Use a disposable email address from some site like mailinator to make an account
>Make a gmail account with the mailinator recovery address
>Use the email address of the legit gmail account you just made as the recovery address on the creation of a second gmail account.
>Set the recovery address of the first account to the email address of the second account so the disposable address is not on either account, but both have recovery addresses

It is like you never got up to shenanigans online in the post botnet days.

>>62127679
t. alt righter who is upset that he can't say nigger on the internet anymore without his family and friends finding out and rightfully shunning him if they disagree with his worldview

I-If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear! Haha

>>62128981
>hard lefter who thinks that a word not only can but should hurt people
i am going to say "nigger" if i want to, regardless of if it will damage my reputation, because it is a word with a power so great that it is restricted from use, which is anti-freedom by definition.
in the same way, i will say "cunt", and "dick", and "kike", because those too are words of power.

>>62125896
>90%of websites want you to log into facecuck to comment
>facecuck uses real identities
It's already here you dumb fuck

I wish people would stop equating anonymity with free speech, although in China's case this is obviously an effort to crack down on dissidents.

The right to say whatever you want without being persecuted legally for it, is not the same thing as being able to hide behind anonymity. The right to privacy doesn't even apply to anonymity, because you yourself make the decision to say things in public. People who adhere to far-right ideologies wrongly believe that them being fired from work because they say hateful and despicable things is somehow related to free speech issues. Free speech means that you wont get thrown into jail by the government for publicly expressing your opinions, suffering from social consequences of this is not a free speech issue.

That being said, in cases like China, Russia and Iran and other hellholes where people are both formally and informally being persecuted for criticising the regime or their policies, anonymity is a necessity for free speech and to avoid the government's influence over the spreading of information. This is why stormfags rallying for "free speech" is harmful, because they are rallying for the right to talk shit about Jews online without being fired from their jobs, meanwhile Russian reporters unveiling corruption and criticising the government get subjected to "accidents" carefully orchestrated by higher-ups.

>>62129093
Thank you George Carlin (and I agree with your position), but that doesn't mean you are somehow entitled to anonymity when you say those things.

>>62129257
>freedom of speech doesn't imply freedom of speech, therefore getting lynched after saying something is ok
>in the same world, we don't need anonymity to protect our rights
yeah ok

>>62126896
Trump is pro freedom and will make the internet great again.

>>62129314
Being metaphorically lynched for your opinions is not the same as actually being persecuted, even implying that it is you're worse than SJWs claiming that transsexuals commit suicide because they aren't spoken to with their chosen pronouns. Being liked by others isn't a right.

See >>62129230, free speech does not imply anonymity and lack of consequences. It simply means that the state doesn't retaliate against you for saying "forbidden" things.

>>62129518
Of course it isn't the same. Mobs are much more dangerous than trial and jail.

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>>62126754
>hurr durr can't post my nazi propaganda online
>muh free speech

>>62129551
Assault is already forbidden by law and the law is clearly being enforced, stop pretending to be a victim when you're clearly not.

>>62129230
Freedom of speech is an idea not just the law. It's meant to foster a free-market of ideas, where bad ones are defeated by good ones in a public debate. If some ideas can be silenced then it's no longer true freedom of speech and it's completely irrelevant who does the silencing if the end result is the same. Freedom of speech law =/= freedom of speech. And yes principles of freedom of speech DO imply freedom from consequences.

>>62129552
Kill yourself commie nigger.

>>62127679
Just saw this documentary, now I realise it's getting worse and worse since then.

>>62129570
>It's meant to foster a free-market of ideas, where bad ones are defeated by good ones in a public debate
I agree, but your boss firing you for saying that you find niggers and kikes inferior species of humanity is just as much of a statement than a verbal one.

>If some ideas can be silenced then it's no longer true freedom of speech and it's completely irrelevant who does the silencing if the end result is the same.
Now you are conflating what free speech means. Free speech does not mean that you are guaranteed a platform completely free for counter-opinions and counter-protests.

>Freedom of speech law =/= freedom of speech
What defines free speech if not the law?

>And yes principles of freedom of speech DO imply freedom from consequences.
From persecution, yes. Not from being protected by your "safe-space" bubble so you don't have to listen to people who object to what you are saying.

>>62129597
You first :^)

>>62125919
>accountability for what you say online is spooky
How much of a coward are you.

>>62129735
Not the guy you're responding to, but it is spooky for forums such as 4chan though. To the public, 4chan is a dark corner of the internet reserved for hackers, pedophiles and Trump-supporting racists. I don't tell people I lurk 4chan unless I'm sure that they don't immediately jump to the conclusion that I am some kind of racist pedophile.

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>>62128981
I know you're just trolling but I'm not an alt righter at all. In the first place I'm black, and I lean towards the left if anything. Second of all, as much as I despise them, alt-righters should be able to say nigger on the internet. It sets a dangerous precedent once people become accustomed to being monitored and censored. You can't police thoughts and opinions. It may be alt-righters today but who knows what will be considered "taboo and antisocial" or whatever next. If you think it's only racists who would be censored, you're wildly mistaken and I would ask you to take a look at any other time in history a regime tried to control ideas. I don't ever support censorship and neither should you. Once that infrastructure is in place, in theory anyone could gain power and use it against people and political ideologies they want to oppress. On a more basic note, This is 4chan. There was a time where we called everyone a nigger or a faggot or a niggerfaggot. If that bothers you then you can be sure you're the cancer that ruined this website.

If you don't have anything to say other than a useless shitpost, please return to
>>>/pol/
>>>/b/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/bant/

>>62125908
So, basically you just copied Chinese propaganda. Doesn't matter how much of what you said is or isn't true, government-controlled censorship is still a human rights violation.

Also:

>Neowin

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>>62125896
>>62125957
>communists do commie shit
wew now i weren't prepared for this
what's listed is pretty much already against the mafia's law everywhere, only now they can find you more easily and your employer can bust your ass with lightning speed
i dare say there will be global profiles for everyone in the future, just open it and you'll see everything they said anywhere online

this isn't even as scary as the soon to be mandatory nationwide social network that reflects your 'social standing' based on your IRL activity and online habits

>>62130492
I refuse to believe this is real. If it is
>I AM LIVING IN A LITERAL NIGHTMARE AND THIS IS NOT THE CORRECT TIMELINE

>>62130517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

Yea it'll be vreat. Trump can finally deploy his right wing death squads, I'm sure the liberals will be so happy when big brother Trump and Baron von Penceheim come knocking on their door for donating to lgbt causes.

Tbh I actually think liberaldneould applaud this

>>62130517
that's china only

>>62130602
well of course it's too Orwellian to be implemented in the US... before 2030

>>62125908
Two wrongs don't make a right

Yes. cant wait

>>62129735
>>accountability for what you say online is spooky
And accountability for the entertainment you consume as well?
Why don't you write on your CV that you watch cartoons or read comics or watch capeshit movies, or play video gaymes, or consume porn?
Because it's more subtle than just shitposting when it comes to anonymity, you retard.

>>62130707
i'd imagine for something like this to be implemented without issues in the US you would need several generations to be brainwashed like there chinese; i wouldn't doubt if every 99 out of 100 is a psychopath which still sounds like a lot of sane chinese to me considering their situation and history

this would sooner work in the EU than the US
the people here are "easygoing", the handful of people who question the government are old shits
and reminder that the citizens of the US are still armed, their guns are the last line of defense
just imagine a wolf without his teeth and nails, harmless

>>62126500
They wouldn't even need to take it over. They could stop it before it took off but making sure no ISP would be involved

>>62130839
People in general don't give a FLYING fuck about online privacy. Look at the Daily Show segment where they had Snowden and during the interview they showed him people on the street who didn't know and didn't give a fuck about NSA spying. When embedded Facebook comments became a thing I was convinced people would chill out but I've seen hundreds of vile disgusting posts made by people with their full names and children in the picture. And not to sound like Shillary but generally the people who are really into guns will be the last to get what's going on

>>62130839
i'm just gonna let you know that you're fucking stupid and completely detached from reality

>>62128981
>t. alt righter who is upset that he can't say nigger on the internet anymore without his family and friends finding out and rightfully shunning him if they disagree with his worldview
I don't know about you, but here in Eastern Europe my family and friends support referring to niggers as niggers, as do my friends in the Near East and the Arabian peninsula where they refer to blacks with the term "Abd" meaning slave. My Asian friends in translation chatrooms also shit on blacks and see them as comic relief.
Seems you are in a minority m8.

>>62130839
>the people here are "easygoing", the handful of people who question the government are old shits
This isn't true though.

We have frequent rallies against privacy intrusive policies the EU wants to push, and there are also demonstrations for free speech whenever governments try to do retarded shit like reinstate blasphemy laws. And ironically, it's mostly the far-left that rallies for free speech, which means that rallies are actually about free speech concerns and not a gang of neonazis who protest statues celebrating a questionable legacy being removed.

>>62130899
>generally the people who are really into guns will be the last to get what's going on
you can always argue whether a disarmed society contains more intellectual individuals because who needs guns when nobody has guns (but be extremely vulnerable to government corruption) or keeping your guns is smarter against tyranny (but being vulnerable to your fellow citizens)

>>62130927
well enlighten me then, after you pulled your head out of your ass of course

>>62130962
>We have frequent rallies
which are low in number in comparison to those who don't care

>>62130962
>statues celebrating a questionable legacy being removed.
Given how the congress wrote up an agreement that gave the South a complete right to own slaves so long as they stayed in a union, and the documents are still preserved with the signatures validated, i think we can agree that
slavery has nothing to do with the civil war except being a random excuse.

>>62125896
>going full nazi with my real identity
already do that in real life. they won't allow the internet to work like this in america, because it would reveal to the world and each other how fucking PISSED we are. and how many ALLIES we have.

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>>62130990
>which are low in number in comparison to those who don't care
Well, but they also get shit done. Protests and demonstrations ultimately stopped the data retention directive from being implemented in several countries.

>>62131007
>slavery has nothing to do with the civil war except being a random excuse.
You're a history revisionist. Pic related.

>>62126569
have you ever seen facebook

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>>62131237
>You're a history revisionist.
The Corwin Amendment of March 2, 1861 is readable and known by all except uninformed and uneducated idiots like yourself it seems.
Including Lincoln being in agreement with it.
Go on, tell me also how i'm a historical revisionist about stating that WW1 happened because of a serious of diplomatic blunders all documented as well as the Corwin Amendment that gave south a full right to own slaves as an excuse to keep the war from happening.
The implications behind the agreement are clear to any and all, slavery is irrelevant, keeping the union whole is. it was ultimately an economic and geo-political war.

>>62130376

This is true.

Also, everyone remember that this is part of the long-term Internet privacy abortion that China is processing. Look at "sesame credit" for another wing of this thing. Go to bad web sites? Play too many video games? Be friends with people with "unacceptable" beliefs? Well, you may lose a job, lose loans or have interest rates jacked, or otherwise be judged. It will basically create a full time self censoring state, where "bad" ideas and anyone who espouses them will be shunned lest others are worried about their own rating going down; gamifying it makes it even worse.

So Facebook pretty much

>>62130962
You will be jailed in most European countries for denying the Holocaust. Wow, such free speech, many enlightened people, wow

>>62126060
As if you have social media lol

>>62125896
Knowledge of TOR is nice to have

>>62125896
no, after this comes the whole narrative of "why should you be allowed to use the internet at all if you're going to post negative speech on it?
Of course it won't be negative speech but hate speech. Call someone a faggot on 4chan? Hatespeech
Talk about politically charged issues that could potentially result in some hurt feelings? Hatespeech

>>62131769
>You will be jailed in most European countries for denying the Holocaust.
There's only one country where denying the Holocaust is illegal, which is Germany. And you don't get jailed, you get fined.

>>62130839
>and reminder that the citizens of the US are still armed, their guns are the last line of defense
They have been having their rights gradually eroded for decades now and there's been no uprising of any sort. The amount of rights an American has compared to 20 years ago is embarrassing.

>can't even pretend to be messed up on the internet because they will take it seriously and link it to my real identity
NO

>>62130839
>several generations
I say 10 years of eroding peoples rights and privacy before nobody cares anymore and just shrugs while they're going to the gulag
The west will die arguing about gender identity, never would've seen this coming 10 years ago

>>62131857
>t. American who knows fucking jackshit about Europe
You'll be jailed in Germany, Austria, Italy, Denmark, Hungary and I think Poland.

>>62129552
>I want to remove your freedom online
>this is to stop the evil Nazis who are against this
You idiots realize you've found a way to make Nazis look good, right?

>>62129636
And who decides what censorship and surveillance persecution and what's just "breaking a safe space bubble"? Oh, you, how convenient.

If the Nazis were in charge, they'd ban you from the Internet and then say "well, we're not OBLIGATED to protect you from consequences, guess you should stop supporting so many Jews :^)"

Why the absolute fuck do you not think this shit will come for you next?

>>62129735
Post your real name and your passwords, surely you got nothing to hide, do you?

>>62130477
What communists do will trickle down to the US, President and Republicans love communist dick by now, and they hate freedom already.

>>62129093
The thing isd, you are weak. see, if you went around in real life saying all that shit to people, I would actually applaud you for having the balls to do it, but the fact of the matter is that you alt-right dipshits will never have the balls to go up to someone in real life and uses such language, at least, not in public. Until you can own up to the vile shit you spew online, just fuck off back to Reditt. You keyboard warriors are just the lowest of the low, yet you think people hate you because of what you say, but in reality, people just find you annoying because, like a little annoying dog, all you do is whimper and bark loudly, but when another actual dog is in your presence, you shut the fuck up, because you know you are too weak and cowardly to step up when shit gets real.

>>62126644
We go back to shitposting on walls.
http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm

>>62133932
Found the nigger. lol

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>>62134056
great argument you sure showed him

>>62128934
I keep meaning to do this, but I'm just to lazy for shenanigans I guess. It's not like I feel the need to post anywhere other than here.

>>62131396
WWI was started over pussy.
Prove me wrong.

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>>62131791

>>62125957
Most of that is banned in the UK too

When will we do something about China? They are a cancer

>>62133716
You literally did not answer anything I said in my post and just starting rambling about how I am like the nazis.

>>62126047
>Democrats
>Communists or even Socialists

Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>62129735
Eat shit and die

>>62130376
Based nigger is smarter than most of the NEETs here

>>62125919
kys you're self

provide 1 good argument against this without resorting to muh snowden anything can happen or heres a link because im too retarded to express myself or le stupid leave ur house unlocked xD meme

face it, you fully understand you're breaking the law and being absolutely stupid but do so because you're "safe" online. end it

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>>62134862
>Kill yourself slowly you are self
Good Lord...

>>62127164
And here we see a perfect example:
>Not with me or against me, gonna choose against me tho because hate feels good

I'm sorry you carry that with you, Anon

>>62130376
Thank you

>>62125896
It'll shouldn't happen here now that communists have implemented it. Most of America still has a burning hatred for commies.

>>62135272
>Most of America still has a burning hatred for commies.
We'll see after 4 years with the current administration full of wall street globalists, and incompetent with empty campaign promises republicans in both chambers of the house.

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>>62125896
i bet facebook used's would care very much of this

>>62129612
title pls

>>62126523
Leave your front door unlocked then.

>>62125908
>China’s development and achievements in the internet industry in the past few years
It's easy to "drive development" when you control both the companies making the software and the parties regulating them. Many of those so called "internet giants" in China are heavily involved with their national party to the point where the owners of companies are ex-govt officials.

>>62125896
S. Korea had this in the late 2000s.

The ruling conservatives used several high-profile suicides which had somewhat to do with mean online comments to push this through, but the real reason was that too many people were posting about how the President and many of the ruling party's leadership are children of known traitors who accumulated massive wealth by selling the country out to Japan during the colonial rule that lasted from 1910 to 1945.

It lasted about two years before the Supreme Court ruled it as unconstitutional and shitcanned the whole thing.

>>62125896
It's funny how the whole "If you have nothing to hide..." meme comes into play when you're a government bent on silencing the truth. Like, if you're the government and you have nothing to hide, you should have no reason to do this.

It would curb ban-evading degenerates.

>>62135546
That isn't remotely the same principle.
>LEAVE YOUR DOOR UNLOCKED AND LET PEOPLE STEAL THINGS AND USE YOUR RESOURCES
vs
>USE YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE SO YOU CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF YOU TRY TO HARASS OTHERS

>>62126880
>Why do you think there are only 2 major parties in the US?
Because rich fucks all think alike and are the only ones who can afford to run for office.

>>62129570
>Freedom of speech is an idea not just the law.
This. And I welcome the entire lot of these leftists/right-wingers to review the definition of Democracy. When a handful of squabbling cunts from either side can manage to ruin lives and businesses through a series of tweets, we have a serious fucking problem.This is the core of all the hostility in this country. A few loudmouths holding us all hostage.

>>62136205
>I want free speech....

>....except for squabbling cunts that ruing lives and businesses because they use Twitter
>....and I don't like "loudmouths" having free speech either

>>62136335
I'm all for the speaking aspect. It's when these people start applying pressure to third parties, that I get pissed off. These people are circumventing democracy and creating microcosms of law, that they are not authorized to enforce. Scream about it all you want, but unless there is a written law that applies, and an agency to enforce it, you have no fucking right to take things into your own hands.

>>62125957
Communist dictatorships behaving like communist dictatorships
And as western countries slide into communist despotism, we too begin to implement the same.

>As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
>Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights"

>>62136480
Are you saying I don't have the right to fire an employee that's openly racist?

>>62125896
>people keep telling you to fear the commie chinks
>faggot biollionaires invest all their money in the commie hell hole
do they not realize they want to enslave and take all the money of every americuck? billionaires included...
stupid motherfuckers.

>>62125908
Sovereignty most certainly does NOT apply to cyberspace. Fucking normies ruin everything. Take your fucking weak minded meatspace bullshit and leave.

>>62136525
No, it's your deal in that instance. I'm talking about these politically motivated vultures that hang in the wings looking for an opportunity to publicly destroy anyone who disagrees with them. It exists on both sides of the spectrum, but the left seems to get away with it a lot easier.

>>62136531
Gloablists are humanitarians at heart. They want to give and help everyone and they sacrifice much of their common sense to do it.

They do not realize that the world is full of ethnocentrists who will take everything a humanitarian has to give, and give nothing in return; sharing only with their in-group. This is what we are now witnessing in western society - western culture has transformed into a humanitarian one over the past century or so, and it has brought with it a naiveté that is squandering and destroying all the accomplishments of that culture and its disparate roots over the last 5,000 years for the sake of empowering its enemies.

We really are a suicidal race, aren't we?

>>62129552
Yeah, that's bad. I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand this.

>>62129552
>"hates nazis"
>advocates for nazi practices

>>62136612
Humans are birthed exclusively due to luck, so yes. Suicidal.

>>62136611
Are you saying I shouldn't have the right to publicly criticise a person I don't agree with, because that could potentially be damaging socially for that person?

Are you actually saying you just want safe spaces for everyone?

>>62136335
Dude people are advocating for violence against people who say things that they don't agree with, and are openingly attempting to out people and get them fired, and put their lives in danger by doxxing them. They are literally destroying people's lives because they disagree with them - and it's not just "duh nerzis" that they're doing it to. It's happening to guys like that Google guy as well, and he was about as tame as you could get.

>>62136695
To be fair, he's siding with retarded trump supporters who spend their days posting low quality obama is a muslim tranny meme. He's not all that tame.
His letter was though.

>>62136695
>your life is in danger because someone posts your name and address
>It's happening to guys like that Google guy as well, and he was about as tame as you could get.
Yeah, I'm sure his life is completely over after getting fired by Google and had to endure his 15 minutes of shame, seeing how he immediately got like 15 job offers from other tech companies on the spot.

>>62136694
>Are you saying I shouldn't have the right to publicly criticise a person I don't agree with, because that could potentially be damaging socially for that person?
I already stated that I'm fine with it. The issue lies with pressuring third parties (webhosts,Google, Facebook, whatever) to do their dirty work. Don't like something, petition government to change it. If majority rules, then you get your way. Otherwise, you're sidestepping democracy.

>>62136902
>The issue lies with pressuring third parties (webhosts,Google, Facebook, whatever) to do their dirty work
The issue here isn't that people tell Google to do this, or facebook to do that. The issue here is that these companies give in. But as private companies, I don't see any problem with that. A government giving in for pressure, however, is something to really be afraid of. See below.

>Don't like something, petition government to change it. If majority rules, then you get your way. Otherwise, you're sidestepping democracy.
This is some shady populist thinking. I, for one, am glad I'm not subject to the tyranny of the majority. I'm glad that the government can't simply strip me of my rights, simply because leftist cucks make out a majority and want to make me not using the correct pronouns classified as hate speech.

>>62136695
>Innocently wear a shirt some fat leftist cunt doesn't like.
>Nationally humilated
>Ruined for life
We're not even talking about swastikas, here. We're talking about the likenesses of human beings printed on a shirt.

>>62129612

what is it anon

>>62127679
>The current generation will have grown up in a world where being tracked at all times is normal.

There is a really good quote, I think it may have been nietzche, had about exactly this but it completely escapes me now.

>>62136968
>This is some shady populist thinking.
I mean within the realms of the Constitution. You literally cannot be Constitutionally raped, and that's the beauty of that document. It's a shame so many people try to ignore it.

>>62137061
The constitution and its amendments also grant people the right to bitch to Google about how they are a bad company for enabling neonazi hate speech.

And the constitution and its amendments grants Google the right to give in to that criticism and remove the daily stormer from its search index.

>>62137120
Well then, perhaps the gay wedding cake people deserve an appology!

>>62137330
Not an apology, but yeah, no one can force them to make a gay wedding cake if they don't want to. Sure, people are allowed to bitch about it all they want, but in the end of the day the gay couple is simply going to have to find themselves another bakery.

>>62125896
nope. i'll move 100% to meshnets and digital ham radio if that day comes.

>>62137330
I'm a Nazi Beserker with an LLC. I've been legally discriminating for years. Just make hate a business and you're all set.>>62137120 is 100% correct.

>>62137428
This. This is why I want churches to pay taxes and register as normal businesses too.

>>62129518
>Being metaphorically lynched for your opinions is not the same as actually being persecuted, even implying that it is you're worse than SJWs claiming that transsexuals commit suicide because they aren't spoken to with their chosen pronouns. Being liked by others isn't a right.

Imagine a world where people won't talk to you because they know you used a word like nigger.
Everyone unfriends you, and removes you from their contacts in order to virtue signal.
You lose your job and your apartment because people don't want a racist living in their community.
You now live on the streets with no friends or family because they've disavowed you.

Now imagine instead of saying nigger you said that your country should have the right to maintain it's border.
My father is considered a member of a hate group because he's a member of the American College of Pediatricians which is listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, for "propagating damaging falsehoods about LGBT people".

>>62125896
iToddlers will defend this.

>>62139994
>in america, names never, ever lie
>fancy-sounding bourgeois name
>can't possibly be a hate group

>>62125957
>ethnic discrimination
Ha

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>>62133798
>President and Republicans love communist dick by now,

You mean the President who has been doing everything he can to start a trade war with China and nuke their proxy north korea for the past two years? The same Republican party that is jacking up military spending so we can build 50 more ships in order to oppose China in the South China Sea? Usually you libtards accuse republicans of being warmongers, but now you are saying they are peace loving hippies. Get your story straight retard.

>>62126855
all politics is identity politics
go back to leftypol faggot

>>62140957
>fancy-sounding bourgeois name
>can't possibly be a hate group

You are right, The Southern Poverty Law Center is just a fancy sounding hate group. Good detective work anon.

>>62125896
This system is a good thing

>>62141158
I meant the """"College"""" of Pediatricians, but you're not wrong.

>>62141670
Sign your post with your Name and SSN please.

>>62125896
This will not happen in America. Not from the federal government anyway.

I could see big websites like Gmail or Facebook demanding to see your drivers license before letting you create an account. But if the federal government tried to do it, all hell would break loose.

>>62139994
that unironically sounds good lol

>>62125919
get out of here

It's already technically illgeal to use an alias in Canada. Not enforceable though.

>>62139994
>which is listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center
What the SPLC says is not law.