/cyb/ Cyberpunk General:

dawn of a new era. what are we larping today chummers?

>>62084709
Red Team Sharks.

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>>62084667
NEED MORE SCREENS

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>>62084667
Reminder of further links:

>Cyberpunk Scenery
http://imgur.com/a/xMi2Q

>Cyberpunk Rooms
http://imgur.com/a/GmKjW

Also on the FTP site

ftp://collectivecomputers.org:21212/
user/pw: guest
Alt. link: ftp://guest:[email protected]:21212/
See especially the Cyberpunk folder

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flat-lining

>>62084709
i'm doing stuff for my class on parallel computing with C. literally cyb: the language along with perl

>>62087253
Wrong thread

>>62087400
how?

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>>62084667

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>>62087656

nobody cares about you roleplayers

>>62087253
did that class some years ago, not my best

>>62087253
Somehow APL seems more /cyb/, perhaps because I cannot understand a single line of it. Still, it is impressive how just about everything can be solved as a one-liner.

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still too afraid to use irc bc dont want to get doxxed

>>62088139
still looking for a vps to use for just lurking on irc.

>>62088268
just ssh in to a random machine or server somewhere. there are bucket loads of empty ones.
Or use an in browser IRC.
Or hace a dynamic IP address.
Or use your neighbors WiFi

>>62088478
yeah i guess, maybe i just don't have motivation enough to really even lurk on the channels.
i could do any of those things, or none of them.

3D animated VR project short "Neocity Cyberpunk", the environments built in the Unreal Engine-4
https://youtu.be/LfwhcPdNeHc

Makes me wonder, perhaps Unreal Engine 4 could be used to animate the world of Tron as a VR meeting place rather than a game?

>>62088521
Whats got you down anon?

So, did /cyb/ and /sec/ got seperated? I have seem a standalone /sec/ just 10 minutes ago. What happened?

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>>62084722
>Red Team Sharks

>>62088562
I think that UE 4.8 ships with steamVR support.
Expanding on that you could probably nigger rig something together.
But man I don't want to deal with the networking nightmare that would be. Also not very profitable just yet. VR is still very expensive and I consider it a niche. Until hardware becomes cheaply available and the supporting framework as well, it's not worth the effort.

>>62088680
rogue actor decided to take shitposting to the next level and demerge the thread.
and no one stopped them.

>>62088680
They separated a few days now. And the infosec threads have been garbage ever since. Because I'm realising, it wasn't either the cyb side or the sec side shitting it up. It's because it's on 4chan

>>62088688
Google Cardboard solutions are not too costly. The network/server infrastructure is perhaps the trickier part. Still, there are supposedly a lot of empty ones according to >>62088478

>>62088715
We had a strawpoll back in June:
http://www.strawpoll.me/13161298/r
The initial result was that people came for either /cyb/ or /sec/ but didn't mind the other. The distribution was fairly Gaussian. Then someone dropped poo into the poll and loaded it heavily against /cyb/ and the result is what we see now. Most likely the same person caused the split recently. What really racks up the autismo points is that he still comes to /cyb/.

>>62088871
go on /vg/ and look at the guild wars 2 thread (if it still even exists) to see what true autistic hatred looks like

>>62084667
>/pedo/ general

fix'd that for you

>>62088871
>What really racks up the autismo points is that he still comes to /cyb/.
Yeah the
>wrong thread
posts are killing any discussion. I'm starting to think generals were a mistake. /g/ was very different a few years back..

>>62088800
Anyone here owns https://cyberpunkdatabase.net/ ? Seems to have plenty of oomph for a VR server.

Huge collection of Cyberpunk themed wallpapers at
https://cyberpunkdatabase.net/wallpapers.php

>>62089225
fuck you

someone merge the threads back

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>>62089225
>.php

>>62089418
What are you really complaining about??

>>62089576
PHP - Pretty Hard to Protect - is mainly a problem on the server, not so much the download client. In any case you can have the direct FTP link:
ftp://cyberpunkdatabase.net/images/wallpapers/ (244 MB)

rip /sec/

>>62089676
>is mainly a problem on the server,
Use a proxy server, can't inject to the web server if you're not seeing the web server

>>62089048
i'm sorry, what?
that's /fucko/, which is a ded thread now

>>62088684
>>62088705
Sysadmins have nothing to do with /sec/

>>62091215
It's obvious you've forgotten which fucking thread youre shitting in. Go the fuck away.

do we discuss tor here or on /sec/?

>>62091670
do it here, those stuck up fuckers wouldn't talk about it without calling you a larper or someshit.
tor, i2p, freenet, ipfs, etc. all are cyb-shit, would say cryptocurrency too, if it weren't for the get rich quick fags who have ruined it. maybe we only do monero.
and i propose we should establish a foothold on all the alternative nets.

Hi im interested in cyberpunk infosec.
Please start a conversation with me.
Just pic a related topic.

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>>62091670
I dug this up just 4u. is from an archived thread. there maybe something useful to someone here.

>>62081360

>>62091980
based, thanks

page 9 bump, how embarrassing it would be to not do a shameless one.

>cyb bump
If these were merged I'd only have to do fucking one

Larp larp larp

>>62084909
Shaggy out of Scooby snacks.

>>62093213
Thanks for the bump.

>>62091807
Pic forgotten, please post again.

>>62091670
TOR is as much about society, technology and law as it is about security, so it can be discussed both places. There are for instance the occasional rumour that people paid to penetrate TOR also leak info about vulnerabilities to the TOR developers. Snowden and Manning are know but there are probably many more out there feeling parts of the .gov is going too far.

Checks and balances for governments are always hard, moreso for the secret services. There are very good reasons why Central Intelligence Agency is "central" in name only.

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>>62088680
/cyb/ is obviously a weeb circlejerk about trying to convince yourself you're a warrior fighting the big corporations boogeyman in a dystopian world and it has nothing to do with actual security

>>62096326
An idea crossed my find. But why not have it peer2peer?
You have a central hub. Where you meet people, talk to them etc. And thats hosted on a main server. but you can always invite them to your place. That is hosted on your machine. Make it as big or small as you like. The data gets streamed form client to client at that point. That would take a lot off the strain off the main servers.
Something like Snowcrash meets second life

>>62087656
thinking about getting a crt just for /vr/.

>>62084667
Just woke up to see split threads. What's going on?

>>62098048
Enjoy your ocular cancer.

>>62098178
how long have you been sleeping?
must've been days..

How would one prevent a layer 2 mitm on a wireless network?

I know two options are host isolation, and requiring certificates to be used such as in PEAP-MSCHAPv2 authentication systems.

are there any other methods to prevent this attack on wireless?

>>62099535
Wrong thread


LARP ALARP LARP

>>62099676
of course it is, I forgot im in /cyb/ the LARP thread. this is for those who LARP as whatever a cyberpunk is, not security experts.

thanks anon, ill take my leave

Please take us back ;_;

>>62097671
Peer2peer is easy to start with but does not scale well, and it is by gaining audience it gets interesting which takes a lot more effort. A middle way would be a federated server system. The torrrenting of non urgent updates I outlined earlier would be peer2peer and would scale simply because it is not time critical.

It would be interesting to see how Elite: Dangerous handles this. They have similar requirements and a partially deformable terrain.

>>62099676
Why do you do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsmN-e7qUbA

>>62094856
its anakata

>>62098690
Fuck

Trying to make sense of the trends of the immediate future

>A Day Made of Glass
>https://youtu.be/6Cf7IL_eZ38
OK, so the future is bright and shiny and the children are well behaved, and going to work is smooth. Work itself is smoother, almost liquid.

In fact the computers will probably do most of the "jobs"
>https://youtu.be/mBadznSDIpY
>A World with IBM Watson
Watson and his descendants are doing so much ... you really wonder what is left. Anything?

But ... will we have a job? Right?
>https://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU
>Humans Need Not Apply

No. No jobs. No neon list back alleys. they are all LED lit now.
We need a new generation Cyberpunk.

>>62102616
the 80s was a great time for the genre, but not sure what needs to happen to serve as the catalyst for a resurgence, but lots of stuff has come out recently or will come out in the coming years, maybe just nostalgia, maybe not.
this whole right wing wave going through the world will inspire some new stuff. the companies have only become larger and larger too since then. lots happening i guess is my point.

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so this is how it ends, not a bang, but a whimper

>>62084667

Merge the threads again guiz if poss.

Culture beats everything, every time.

Yeah sure you get stupid questions on infosec in here, but they are preferable to the larping sysadmins and risk assessors who cant code and shoot people down on infosec questions.

Can help with resources and stuff on infosec.

t. info sec consultant.

>>62104476
t. larping info sec consultant

Fixed that for you anon.

>>62098283
>not wanting a cool disease
High tech low life nigga

>>62104476
too many rude people there now. maybe in a few weeks
>>62104790
^ this is an example of a rude person

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>>62105358
>too many rude people there now. maybe in a few weeks

That would be good. These threads really pulled me back to /g. They were interesting and I didnt see too much toxic behaviour (for 4chan)

I get where the hardcore sec guys are coming from sometimes - its a rarefied specialism and some people clamour to get into it without 'doing the knowledge'. Equally at least half of the security guys just run scanners, cant code, and are constantly on the verge of shitting themselves for fear of being unmasked as chancers with no real talent.

I like both churches though. For me the only 'noob' question that bothers me is when people ask what cert to go for but dont have any other abiding /g type interests. Fuck those guys.

t. infosec consultant of 15 years standing (who's seen Blade Runner over fifty times )

>>62105575
How do I get into the field, or how did you get into it?

>>62105575
I get more autistically angry at certfags than any other group. A highschool kid asking how to do command injection to change their grades is just me in another life, but the certfags drive me up the wall.
The security industry as a whole has a huge problem with arrogance and certfags have the unfortunate problem of being the group I notice with this problem the most outside of clueless interns. Sysadmins and developers are teammates not someone to be smug towards.
t. Infosec consultant 7 years experience
>>62105598
Get some ctfs under your belt and then go look at the plebbit hiring threads in /r/netsec /r/reverseengineering and /r/malware. They will take people with less experience because if you are applying from there you obviously are interested in the field.

>>62105598
>How do I get into the field, or how did you get into it?

It's kinda like this in my exp. (excuse shitty ascii)

Infrastructure | Applications
|
------------------+-------------------
Analyst | Architect
Operations | Risk
Risk |

I got in through normal help desk shit , then did an mcse (really hit the TCP module super fucking hard) and self learned some infra security, (Hacking Exposed books) got picked up at big 4 to be worlds worst pen tester, then contracted as a risk assesor / policies & procedures guy for about ten years.
I'm now late forties. Learnt node.js (took me the better part of last three years) and now I'm doing more application security stuff. Which I fucking love.

But long story short there are two paths - Infrastructure expertise or coding expertise. You just sprinkle either discipline with some light info sec knowledge and you should be hireable.

For me personally - the big jump was going from server support to Big 4. They taught me ALOT for the few years I was there - being methodical, professional, practical.

Also, if you can write reports and are not a literal cave troll thats worth its weight in gold. Probably about 75 pc of the work I've done the clients have fuck all interest in security - they just want someone to rain paper about it to cover ass unfortunately.

Happy to answer more questions.

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>>62105993
ASCII came out balls, have a shitty jpeg instead /cyb

>>62106138
you could add the job title of Consultant to either column too - thats wildly variable but it generally means youre cranking reports quite a bit.

>>62105936
>Sysadmins and developers are teammates not someone to be smug towards.

amen, brother.
Whenever I meet someone with a CISSP I know its not going to end well. Their defining characteristic is knowing you know they dont know. Dangerous fuckers. For every actual /g tard who replaces them an infosec angel gets his fucking wings in Valhalla.

>>62106138
How do I test pens ?

>>62106216
>How do I test pens ?
in your case rectum, point first.

>>62106216
that job has been taken by the robutts already.

just got back from the cyb night drive

whatever happened to the dude with the bunker?
wonder how much dosh he is making on XMR

what is this thread even about?

>>62107259
CP
Now post your feet

>>62105936
They really take people with little experience?
I've been wanting to get into the field but Im scared I'll have to start really really low at some fucking helpdesk that has nothing to do with infosec. Id rather get into the field as an apprentice or some shit and learn everything there is to learn about malware, reverse engineering, and shit like that. Im actually an elecrtical apprentice and I really like the way they do the learning. Go to school in the afternoon study some theory's and how to work in the field and then actually do the work during the day, being supervised by a knowledgeable guy.

>>62084909

did he draw that waifu?

>>62105358
>>62105575
I do not wish for the threads to be remerged because of the things I see in this thread. Please keep /sec/ dead if it's not going to be useful. Otherwise you are a problem if you believe two distinctly different things should be merged for no other reason because you are lonely. This is how bad marriages happen, this is why we split.

>>62107399
>Id rather get into the field as an apprentice
wish that was more common but i think it's largely been replaced with the 4 year degree now, i know in programming but probably information security that's not just helpdesk. i think you should keep up with what you're doing now and do hacking as a hobby

>>62107399
Yes, grabbing from there is pretty common to at least get into the first round of interviews. Just make sure you have a solid amount of knowledge and something a bit official looking. If you don't have college, github and blog write-ups of ctfs are your resume. You need to stress experience. If you can use burp, are familiar with xss, csrf etc it's doable. Make sure you are familiar with the entire flow of https and DH as those are our hazing questions. Knowing what perfect forward secrecy is will go a long way. Additionally if you can work IDA to find vulns you are in great shape as much of the industry has forgotten how to do memory exploit but it's coming back into fashion again with the rise of IoT.

>>62084722

how many red teamers does it take to screw up a network?

>>62089048

thanks fbi

>>62106674
I actually came here to see if he was around. He popped in a thread over on /biz/ earlier today or yesterday. Just like everyone else he's up about 3x on XMR, putting him right around $128,000/month.

I'm seriously considering doing something similar. The idea of this kind of passive income is too tempting to pass up.

>>62104476
> Merge the threads again guiz if poss.

This....I think the divide was a shame...people who want to be spoonfed have languished in these arts as long as I can remember.

Likely most of these anons seeking easy answers don't have that NEED TO KNOW and an addiction to that moment when clarity strikes you like a euphoric hammerblow, temporarily reverting you tp a grinning, deeply lost in wonder fool.

But we could be wrong about some of them...maybe some will learn from the scorn and improve independently into someone who teaches us something someday.

I believe cyberpunk has had an effect on /sec/ just like scifi writers/directors like Bradbury, Asimov, Clarke, Kubrick and Lucas had on generations of scientists.

These influences are especially prominent/noted in astro/quantum physicists, where many of the greatest thinkers of our species have advanced our civilization.

In their method and experimentation, many have drawn from the creativity and humanity of the scifi they loved and struck it against .
the hard disciplines of mathematics and science that also define/defined their pursuit.

Gibson and Stephenson may not be a technically adept polymath like Asimov, but cyberpunk and cybersecuroty are both still very young in comparison to other scifi conventions/genres.

(cont'd)

Cyberpunk inspires me in my work and how I manage my lab.

Those who despise this general could call me a larper, but right now I am on break from remotely soloing a red team engagement against an industrial facility where I am trying to utilize multiple protocolcs/services to force an automated service tool to deliver/execute commands/code on all of the systems it services/gathers from/reports on, thereby circumventing the trust boundaries and restrictive policies of the network with software meant to guard/service it.

After sniffing the traffic(thereby seeing he protocols/activity repeatedly utilized by the service tool ) and dorking the manuals, a common trope enterered my mind:

A human is outnumbered and outgunned by a technologically superior enemy,but the character evens the odds by gaining an advantage over one of there own and leveraging it to do what the human cannot, thereby defeating humanities newest ,computational marvel with humanities oldest: the human mind itself.

Of course, there is aways a chance I could trip some IDS and feel really fucking stupid in the next few hours....but at least I am having a blast doing it.

Long live cyb and sec, and have a great (safe, but not to safe) night one brothers and sisters

>>62108287
damn, dude is doing alright.
i don't think i'm in the position to buy in, but it's such a interesting new market. filed with people in it solely to make the money though, but you see that everywhere i guess.

>>62108611
Yeah it's pretty insane. The whole thing is extremely speculative but it isn't going away any time soon.

>>62103936
T.s. Elliot

I love you

>>62108468
>>62108500
your posts are always great, provide some motivation to boot.
i'm sure we can outlast the pro-mergers, sad to see the two threads languish just days after, to the surprise of no one who was in the know.

>>62089097
>I'm starting to think generals were a mistake. /g/ was very different a few years back.
Yes and no. Generals hurt and help at the same time, as we would get the exact. Same. Questions. The /dpt/ and /sqt/ and /flt/ certainly helped contain them, but I still feel like most of 4chan has stagnated.

I was nostagia-fagging with an anon in a nostalgia thread about the old 4chan before the celebrity leaked nudes (can't for the life of me remember the term), but I feel like that was when 4chan first started to lose its sense of originality.

>>62109604
The fappening. Shit dude maybe I need to get a life because that feels pretty recent in the timeline tbqhwyfam.

I put the peak when
>I seriously hope you guys don't do this
stopped being used

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>>62091720
>if it weren't for the get rich quick fags who have ruined it
Oh, the backlash is coming.

>>62109894
This are both dark times within our recent history.

I miss the old meme format, too. Fuck this new "add text outside an image" bullshit.

Granted, some rare ones do, but it's not what it used to be.

late night bump

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>>62103936
Good quote, anon. Let me add another favourite of mine:

>The whole world, which had been like a festival, slowly calmed down.
>And those days...
>became the gentle time of what is called the "Age of the Calm Evening."
>Let me show you just a moment of this brief time before night comes.
>The night of Humanity... May it be a peaceful age.

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>>62091720
Don't fucking listen to me man because I heard it from unreliable sources but keep an ear out on a research paper that proposes it's encryption is flawed as shit. Take that with a pound of salt though. Last thing I want to do is spread bullshit but something to keep in mind.

>>62099535
Host isolation is a nuclear option if you're dealing with multiple users as you'd have to maintain a whitelist.

TLS certificates are a good start. Consider using CHAP over PPP links since it encrypts credentials and regularly checks the verified identity of the authenticated client. This type of "fingerprinting" limits the attack surface for MiTM, and involves little interference with users.

>>62106333
>this is what executives and managers believe

>>62108287
>I'm seriously considering doing something similar.
Keep in mind that electricity and cooling is cheap where he is. That is a huge part of the earning equation.

I think someone blew an EMP just down the neighborhood closer to the park by my house.

Bigblue light and after a few seconds a sound for it. It didn't leave the cars ringing and you could see a waver in the lights. Maybe it was just Hollywood effects but it did seem to get quieter. Also my cheeks hurt now, which is meaningless but it feels like the force is pushing out rather than in. Like an opposite effect kind of thing. But that could just be those iss niggers making fake eclipses on convention and stuff.

>>62109604
>as we would get the exact. Same. Questions
We now have plenty of pasta that we can quickly refer to whenever a Frequent Question Arises. They provide a little bump, we provide self service info without too much derailing and everyone is happy.

There is also a huge FAQ for /cyb/ which should answer most question (and also bring most readers to their knees).

Remembering there used to be a comp.security newsgroup I did a search for FAQs and found this:
>http://www.faqs.org/faqs/by-newsgroup/comp/comp.security.html

A lot of this is from 1997. Perhaps better than nothing though an awful lot has happened in 20 years. Updating these will be a truly mammoth task.

>>62112984
There are several types of EMP bombs, even if you dismiss nuclear HANE. That would leave a huge flash but also massive headlines so I think it is safe to dismiss that.

One type involves cylindrical chemical explosives, so, was there a huge explosion? It would leave copper fragments all around the place that should be easy to pick up.

>>62088680
Why do we not go to lainchan

>>62113031
It was definitely cylindrical but I wouldn't say I was close enough to really see anything but the flash overhead at like..maybe 50 feet. It probably had a 30 foot radius and was almost 2d with perimeter noted.

It kinda reminded me of Knotts Berry Farm at night.

if you're annointing with any of those dudes you're going to pay like them. I'm telling you now.

>>62113093
>It was definitely cylindrical but I wouldn't say I was close enough to really see anything but the flash overhead at like..maybe 50 feet. It probably had a 30 foot radius and was almost 2d with perimeter noted.
I am not sure what you describe. What was cylindrical, the charge or the fireball? Using copper coil based device there would be a blue-green flash as parts of the copper turned to plasma, but the sound of the explosion would be loud. The dimensions you indicate are way too large for a device unless you want to eliminate all civilian electronics in Washington DC.

>It kinda reminded me of Knotts Berry Farm at night.
Not understanding this one. Colourful? I would expect a brief white/yellow flash followed by a blue-green plasma plume.

>if you're annointing with any of those dudes you're going to pay like them. I'm telling you now.
Not understanding this one either. Anyways, the general principles are well known in civilian circles. And I am not in that line of work anymore.

>>62112984
>>62113031
>>62113093
I think explosive EMPs are a cheap trick. When I was in highschool my friends and me did the research and used a microwave generator to shut off the school's power.

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>>62077599
>>62055135
>Loving the fake chimney idea.
>Bit of PVC painted with a texture similar to the rest of the house would work well.
>4 rods in a rectangle(or square), wrap her around, boom, done.
>Reason for PVC is so you can make it transparent to loads of frequencies rather than just the lower ends.
>Who knows, you might want to do some fun line-of-sight directional shit one day.

It is amazing how much "normal" infrastructure just becomes invisible. So just for fun I had a look around my neighbourhood and lo! I found a roof with 1 chimney and 2 exhaust air outlets on a small house. So I could add one easily without anyone asking why I need two.

A radome would be comfy but could attract unwanted attention.

>>62113343
When i was in highschool we would shove a peace of copper wire in to a wall plug to short the breakers. Whats your point?

>>62113389
>you might want to do some fun line-of-sight directional shit one day
You mean direction finding or directive transmissions? i have considered optical LOS links, relaying with hams since optical is not considered transmission according to the radio rules.

>>62113343
>I think explosive EMPs are a cheap trick.
Cheap? You have to sacrifice a lot of copper coil in the implosion. And you also need to invest in a powerful large current power supply that you hopefully can recover.


And what is this doing on page 9??

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>>62113066
Because .org is a literal shit hole.
.jp is sort of comfy though.

>>62112907
Oh I realize that. He's at $0.02/kw-hr which is insanely cheap. I don't think I'd actually be able to pull it off where I am. Still, it's interesting to work out the math.

>>62107740
>>62108028
Thanks guys

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>>62053851
>I might also add a tea house in my garden.

Inconspicuous is the key. And nothing screams refined harmlessness like a proper tea house. It simply ensure nobody will look in the strange basement or what really happens in the attic.

>>62117446
This house looks awesome.

>>62084909
Oh yes, I remember this image. that dildo on the shelf no one notices anymore.

https://bgpmon.net/bgp-leak-causing-internet-outages-in-japan-and-beyond/
Google killed the internet through bgp. We were talking about this sort of thing being used as an attack a few threads ago, but for the doubters this should prove it's still very doable.

>>62118259
All I ever notice is the lain drawing.

quite amazing that a single autist managed to destroy the entire general, and the fucking retarded mods did nothing while he spammed the board with his snowflake threads

>>62118259
so what. mine's way bigger

>>62117646
Agreed. It is the perfect example of Comfypunk.

I used to work in Japan and really liked these petite buildings. A nice scenery is also a must, of course.

I have a ham license but would never go for the extreme shacks some go for. I prefer it neat and tidy. I know a Japanese landscape architect who has offered to assist me in the design. Very tempting.

=== /cyb/ News

Wondered if you are bugged? Solution is at hand:

>SALAMANDRA: DETECTING AND LOCATING SPY MICROPHONES WITH AN RTL-SDR
>http://www.rtl-sdr.com/salamandra-detecting-and-locating-spy-microphones-with-an-rtl-sdr/
>Over on GitHub user eldraco has uploaded an RTL-SDR compatible python script for detecting and locating eavesdropping spy microphones (bugs) within a closed environment. The Python script can be run either on Linux or Windows. They write:

Salamandra is a tool to detect and locate spy microphones in closed environments. It find microphones based on the strength of the signal sent by the microphone and the amount of noise and overlapped frequencies. Based on the generated noise it can estimate how close or far away you are from the mic.

>Salamandra can either be used in live mode, or can use data recorded from rtl_power. It seems that the software simply attempts to detect peaks in the spectrum that look like analog audio, and print out their frequencies.

>>62118372
He is still hanging around, like a child dancing around the home he just burned down. There is little point in going for a merger as long as he hangs around. The recent sink posting mess indicates mods don't follow neither /cyb/ nor /sec/.

>>62112834
i meant literally testing pens. isn't QA just taking a few out randomly and testing them with specialized robutts?

>>62118868
that's neat. my little rtl-sdr dongle is sitting in a cabinet somewhere, gotta get an adapter to put a better antenna on it and actually use it.

Next thread should remerge us. /Sec/ is dead without culture.

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>>62119807
Seems /sec/ tanked 4 hours ago.

What I always missed from /sec/ discussions were the .mil side: getting /sec/ skills and doing /sec/ work. Also Electronic Warfare (EW) which is often in the /cyb/ news from rtl-sdr.com

>>62119975
Check out the darpa cyber grand challenge. It's about the cutting edge of the .mils sec capabilities. Internally they are not that great, but they are fantastic about setting up incentives for private citizens to develop the tech they need.

>>62119807
we are too without bumps like these

>>62115260
comfy in that not many posters go there or what?
not sure i can trust he who shall not be named after doing what he did to the buyer of the original one. don't keep up with the drama too well, so may be unaware of some information.

Paging bunkerbro, bunkerbro do you read me?

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>>62084667
How do I /cyb/?

>>62113066
It's a shit place. Sorry.
Mostly edgy teenagers/script kiddies and wannabe autists.

>>62122991
What exactly does this question mean

You've posted a sentence containing a query so large you might as well have said

>how do I metal
>how do I racecar
>how do I movies
>how do I horses

A better question is pointed and directed, like the following

>how do I stop being such a large faggot
>how can I remove all 10 of these cocks from my anus
>how can I fit in with the cyberpunk aesthetic in my daily life given I only own the following materials and only want a cyberpunk desktop not a real cyberpunk life because people will laugh at me and think I'm weird if I look like a cyberpunk outside

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>>62123096
>>how do I stop being such a large faggot
Good. I'm listening.

>how can I remove all 10 of these cocks from my anus
Yes, would be helpful.

>how can I fit in with the cyberpunk aesthetic in my daily life given I only own the following materials
Yes.

>and only want a cyberpunk desktop not a real cyberpunk life because people will laugh at me and think I'm weird if I look like a cyberpunk outside
I'm a social autistic outcast if that helps. I like to keep to myself.
I don't care if people laugh when I'm out to buy milk.

>>62123168
>>>how do I stop being such a large faggot
>Good. I'm listening.
By not taking any more dick
>>how can I remove all 10 of these cocks from my anus
>Yes, would be helpful.
One at a time
>>how can I fit in with the cyberpunk aesthetic in my daily life given I only own the following materials
>Yes.
High tech, low life.
High tech: use arch and stay on the bleeding edge.
Low life: it's fucking free because you're poor
>>and only want a cyberpunk desktop not a real cyberpunk life because people will laugh at me and think I'm weird if I look like a cyberpunk outside
>I'm a social autistic outcast if that helps. I like to keep to myself.
>I don't care if people laugh when I'm out to buy milk.
Read above. Nigger rig technology to do what you want. Nexus 5 with external antenna. Turn an RPI into a phone. What tech shit have you got lying around the house you don't use anymore? MAKE A USE FOR IT. You want to know the real essence of cyberpunk? Using what you have to do what you need. DIY. You don't buy it in a store, not because of the ethos or some creed, but because you're poor. You don't choose to need to niggerrig.

>>62123261
>High tech: use arch and stay on the bleeding edge.
>Low life: it's fucking free because you're poor
But arch is low tech and low life isn't always poor.

>>62123414
You're wrong on both

let's put a pastebin in the next thread with a link to archived /sec/ threads from the past couple of days
>this is what happens when you try to split threads, so don't fucking try it

>>62122991
There is a pasta in OP exactly for this question.

>>62124521
we all knew it would happen, still sucks that it has come to this.

>>62125903
Then merge them again. The srs people sit in both anyway.

>>62125923

See >>62119275

>>62126574
Right.

I need to take blame for the sink posting fiasco. I was trying to alert op to the fact I am 98% sure there is REAL cheese in the cyb FTP. It just turned into a shitshow from there. Also if OP is here, that shit needs to go man

=== /cyb/ News

The future is here, it is just unevenly distributed. And who had thought Estonia would be at the forefront?

>Floreat Estonia
>https://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/mannerisms/genius/floreat-estonia-2017-08/
>Estonia is initiating a new move in the digital playbook – a national digital currency called the ‘Estcoin’.
>The idea comes from the same fertile brain, Kaspar Korjus’, which spawned Estonia’s eResidency programme under which, for a hundred euros, a company can buy eResidency in Estonia which gives it the benefits of being inside the Single Market and Customs Union.

Having been on the receiving end of network warfare Estonia knows a bit about defending their digital properties.

These days I find it easier to go around wearing my IEMs. I walk among people and they leave me alone. My earphones must look like hearing aids to most people. They may think me deaf. They don't speak to me, and I don't speak to them. But yet they speak, and I skim their words.

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Daily reminder that cybeepunk is now

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>>62127805

>>62115260
16 posters, 10 admins. No thanks?

>>62113652
clip + eraser

>>62089045
yeah, I remember there is bot spamming random posts from /vg/

>>62088478
>just ssh in to a random machine or server somewhere
where?

>>62098283
occular implants bruh

>>62128258
try any school, edu style. most of them have understaffed engineering departments with easily breakable passwords with some basic research

Where can I download "Building Virtual Machine Labs: A Hands-On Guide" (ISBN: 9781546932635)? It was free to download for a while but then the site went down, does someone have a copy?

>>62127843
That's pretty neat!

>>62128702
I tried so fucking hard, even scouted all my private trackers and irc

I just gave the fuck up and bought it.

>>62126718
>cheese in the cyb FTP
Was that in the Cyberpunk folder or some other folder? There are tons of contributors from all over the place after the owner (I presume) announced it was open for contributions). The Cyberpunk folder is pretty much on topic and I never saw anything suspicious there.

Bumping with a link to >>62129588
>Elon Musk launches Neuralink, a venture to merge the human brain with AI

>>62127747
That's cool

>>62123522
>wrong on both
Arch is a joke Linux distribution compared to many others.
Why is it this popular with /cyb/ suddenly?

You think that low-life /cyb/ people with pretty amount of money on their accounts don't exist? /cyb/ is a great world where to exploit and gain. It doesn't matter they suddenly stop being low-life. Not only that, but you think rich people don't exist in a /cyb/ world? Sure they are not what we talk about often when mentioning /cyb/, high-tech low-life, but in many instances in popular media, people with very stable economic status still take part directly in the /cyb/ world, exploiting it to gain even more. Either by their own skills or hiring people to crash markets, etc.

>>62088268
>>62088478
Or use SDF because it's free.

>>62130736
>Why is it this popular with /cyb/ suddenly?
Not sure but I suspect someone wants to elevate themselves above the Gentoo crowd. Still, they forget 9front and Redox-OS.

>>62129124
Hey I found the following Google Docs document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7QRZV_12gSwb0pRSVUySVBMUFk/
Since you said you have bought a copy, could you confirm if the content is legitimate or if anything important is missing?

>>62127783
What is IEM?

>>62130736
Arch achieves a level of just works after initial setup.

>>62132157
In-Ear Monitors. The things that people call earbuds but aren't earbuds, because earbuds are the things that saddle the ear instead of going inside.

>>62132481
You could say the same about most Linux distributions these days.

>>62132591
I see. I thought you were talking about somekind of amplifier that could be used to listen in on people

>>62115260
get fucked, kalyx.

>>62088562
Soon, the entire world will be replicated in 3D and we'll be able to walk around with VR and talk with others in this VR world -- the wired

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What's my hacker handle, /cyb/?

>>62106674
>>62122594
Bunker dude last seen here: >>62122365, crushing the competition in a thread on home servers.

please help babby find his first very own jump host.It's the only thing that's keeping me from going in because I'm terribly paranoid and won't do anything from my own connection

I've already tried things like
>>62128585
but it seems around here it seems everyone has their web site off site and no services exposed.
public wifis are limited to port 80 / 443 and the whole city is using WPA2 for their personal wifi

>>62084909
He's dressed like Sammy Rogers

>>62132326
mods

>>62135933
Sure? It is only 59 KB and I cannot see how you can hide any second picture steganographically in such a small file.

>>62137034
it's a link

>>62137075
Sneaky.

When will the next mod drive be?

>>62132481
Like Ubuntu?

So, it's like Windows or macOS? Where's the fun in that?

>>62137572
It is more fun getting things to work than fighting it every inch of the way.

>>62118259
circa 08

Has anyone heard from owner of Jinteki? Cannot remember the name just now. Site is up but links are beginning to rot.

Also, entering the quiet night. Please keep alive.

>>62138014
Are you talking about jinteki.net? What do you mean it's beginning to rot? I play all the time.

btw: if anyone wants to play let me know.

>>62134249
Solider of Fortran

>>62134885
>trade bitcoins for gift cards
>tumble the coins
>buy vps in Estonia
>???

>>62137572
>Where's the fun in that?
The fun is that it is BLEEDING EDGE

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>>62137270
>>62137075
>>62137034
>>62135933
>>62132326

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>>62138716

what's with unrestrained sinkposting?
page 9 bump too i guess

>>62115260
It's the other way around you doofus.
I can't believe that in $current_year there are people browsing kalyx's website.

>>62134445
Thanks. I would love to figure out how to get started creating such a setup. I really don't know the first thing about using a blade server though.

>>62141539
money and opportunity i would reckon. anything can be possible with that available.

>>62141640
I have some money and time to work on learning about those setups. I don't have the kind of cash he laid out for his Bond villain bunker fortress complete with 40 mainframes but I'm guessing most people don't.

I saw this somewhere forgot how to set it up. My have my laptop encrypted. How do I set it so people cant just boot from a usb and get acess to my files? Im running gentoo btw

>>62138527
>Are you talking about jinteki.net?
No, I meant http://jinteki.industries/index.html Cyberlife

>>62084667
Any /sec/ in here?
>>62141184

>>62120971
>>62140534
cyb has the best bumpers is what separates us from sec

>>62142221
We already migrated back here

>>62142473
I'm so confused.

>>62134885

Wificrypt router
https://geebee.org:235/s=blog&req=1&post_id=73
vpnencap
https://github.com/whussup/vpnencap
explanation: https://geebee.org:235/?s=blog&req=1&post_id=55

vpnchains
https://sourceforge.net/p/vpnchains/wiki/Home/

Advanced Privacy and Anonymity Using VMs, VPN’s, Tor
https://www.ivpn.net/privacy-guides/advanced-privacy-and-anonymity-part-1

anonym8
https://github.com/HiroshiManRise/anonym8
autovpn.py
https://gist.github.com/domenkozar/1547663

PIA Tunnel (can be used with other VPNs)
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/1389/pia-tunnel-a-virtual-machine-vpn-tunnel

adrelanos/vpn-firewall
https://github.com/adrelanos/vpn-firewall

Whonix
https://www.whonix.org/

Samy Kamkar’s Proxygambit (https://medium.com/@amuse/how-the-nsa-caught-satoshi-nakamoto-868affcef595)

Tutorial: Bootable and Encrypted Whonix VM on 8GB USB Stick
http://www.torforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18320

madbuda/brasscrow
https://github.com/madbuda/brasscrow

Dr Who - Security and Encryption FAQ - Revision 22.6.2 - Pastebin ...
https://pastebin.com/search?q=Dr+who+security+faq

I am working on a guide and projects for us (they will be dropped here first) and as acts of defiance; but no single setup is enough, this all has to be part of your research and the development of your digital skillsets.

One of these projects will incorporate randomized bounce/jumpboxes.

I could not responsibly cover a mean to provide a high degree of anonymity/privacy within the confines of 4chan comments.

It makes me fucking sick when the peaceful are denied their privacy for what amounts to paranoia and a means of control; sometimes cyberpunk (and being a good citizen of our world) is partly about using what you know to punch authority in the teeth.
https://medium.com/@amuse/how-the-nsa-caught-satoshi-nakamoto-868affcef595via.

Be safe brothers and sisters, but never be what they'd force you to be.

Wrong URL, fixed:

Samy Kamkar’s Proxygambit

https://samy.pl/proxygambit/

And OPSec like a mother fucker, starting here, but digest, absorb, and shit out what you find to be just more shit

http://grugq.github.io/docs/

>>62142447
We also have interesting /cyb/ news.

>>62143073
now that's what brings the puzzle pieces together.
ty maderas :3

>>62142447
while i would thank you, i'd rather not have to bump at all.
>>62142221
this is just sad anons, it didn't have to be like this

>>62131108
You can just get everyone's IP on SDF by doing users command. I believe that is the command used, but I forgot. You can figure it out if you guess enough times.

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Is there a good stego guide around anymore?

Roughly 4 years ago I picked up a software package and a script to check images for stego stuff. Had some fun running it through my chan photos.

Bumperino before bedtime

>>62143073
>>62143156
Great stuff, many thanks!

>>62088688
>>62133404
Walking with VR seems attractive, yet the big layers are still sceptical:


=== /cyb/ News

>300m Wearables This Year, says Gartner
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/mannerisms/markets/300m-wearables-year-says-gartner-2017-08/
>Head-mounted displays (HMDs) account for only 7% of all wearable devices shipped in 2017, and will not reach mainstream adoption with consumers or industrial customers through 2021.
>“Current low adoption by mainstream consumers shows that the market is still in its infancy, not that it lacks longer-term potential,” says McIntyre.
>Near-term opportunities for virtual reality HMDs among consumers are with video game players. Workers will also use them for tasks such as equipment repair, inspections and maintenance, but also in warehouses and manufacturing, training, design, customer interactions and more.
>Theme parks, theatres, museums and sports venues will purchase HMDs to enhance the customers’ experience in interactive attractions or movies, and add information and supplemental images at sporting events.

Seems rather pessimistic. How about a useful VR "killer application" like VR Office etc? Not just live in Tron city but also work there.

where do I start if I want to study/learn web applications security?

>>62143285 >>62144456
No problem anons. My goal is to armor, arm learn from and cloak my fellow anons (as well as any humble soul with the initiative to learn).
>Some other Tor-centric privacy projects and tutorials:
---Hack-like-the-bad-guys-using-tor-for-firewall-evasion-and-anonymous-remote-access:
https://foxglovesecurity.com/2015/11/02/hack-like-the-bad-guys-using-tor-for-firewall-evasion-and-anonymous-remote-access/
---I am not saying the author is doing so, but cliche "whitehat" ethic"anyone who utilizes their skills outside a client/employer/lab /CTF engagement is a "bad guy"", makes my guts ill.
---If you are leaving common folks and children alone, I only care about learning from your methods; absorbing the work/forum chatter/Pastebins of blackhats will often be a very valuable learning tool.

ChrisFernandez/tutorial-darknet:
---This is not a darknet tutorial; it is a script that will aid you in creating an I2P or Tor (preferably Tor in my opinion) hidden service with
a slick OpenVPN/IRC configuration.

--Tor can/will restrict some of your tools (especially those reliant upon UDP) though workarounds involving encapsulation (example. VPN configs) and/or tunneling (such as DNS tunneling via iodine) are possible (my luck here has been hit or miss).

Reverse/bind shells thru Tor are possible via bridges/relays (with some work and to the best of my knowledge, a hidden service), or via redirecting/tunneling the connect back (my success is nowhere near %100 here).

I would use another (intermediary/beacon host) server/VPS responsive to your i/o by a remote means (VNC/RDP/SSH -R) while your host can utilize Tor (you my have to edit ,ssh/config for SSH use with Tor) and the intermed. uses other privacy methods.
--- Proxify your Linux command-line i/o with proxychains: https://www.shellhacks.com/linux-proxy-server-settings-set-proxy-command-line/
--Command that sends terminal traffic through proxychains (open new shell than type): proxychains bash

>>62108098
none, it's probably already fucked

forgot a URL
ChrisFernandez/tutorial-darknet:

https://github.com/ChrisFernandez/tutorial-darknet

Also, if you are going to use proxychains, you should use some many of transparent proxy to ensure your IP is not leaked (I have heard of this happening to multiple reliable sources), or make the last hop of the chain Tor in proxychains config file (I am not sure if proxychains-ng has this same issue..)

Have a good one brothers and sisters.

LWN has regular Security updates. Any comments as to how good quality this is?

>>62101772
no its not

>>62145368
I searched in the rebeccablacktech archive and found that I'll have to:
1. learn basics of python then
2. read Grey Hat Python
3. read Black Hat Python then
4. read The Web Application Hacker's Handbook
5. read Tangled Web: A Guide to Securing Modern Web Applications then
6. try microcorruption.com
7. try cryptopals.com challenges
8. when I'm proficient enough with programming read The Art of Software Security Assessment

did I get it right?

>>62144089
>Is there a good stego guide around anymore?
There was some stego info in an earlier thread. Good of not I do not know. Since it looked more like /sec/ than /cyb/ and the split was on I didn't make a note.

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>>62107311
eat shit

>>62084909
Friendly reminder that this is Gottfrid Warg, Pirate Bay founder.

What's the most /cyb/ OS?

>>62149852
by far TempleOS

>>62149852
windows 10

Bumperino friendos

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>>62122594
Yes. Is it it time?

>>62151219
Have a hacking party in the room. :^)

>>62149852
Kali

>>62149852
OpenBSD. That fact that there are answers besides this one shows the demerge was not a mistake. I actually liked /cyb/ before.

>>62152265
/sec/ is dying as a result of the demerge, even /cyb/ is more active than the purist /sec/.

>>62152447
Really is a shame. So too that imageboards are shit for this sort of thing. I'm lurking a bunch of forums and even they have great info.

>>62153058
Agreed.
Which forums are you lurking nowadays?

>>62153176
I'm a phone poster who has all of his links in a file so I don't have it on hand. I just scoured challenge forums for outlinks and joined CTFs for invites.

>>62153241
Thanks, I guess it is time to look around for better sources.

>>62149852
I have several candidates
- OpenVMS: VMS (especially on VAX) is weird but comfy and uptime is measured in years. I nice VAXcluster would complement my basement servers nicely.
- HP-UX on PA-RISC: puts the brakes on, hard, for the computer intruders who believe everything is either Intel or ARM compatible. I believe an intrusion in Debian system was discovered this way
- 9front: cool beans and an attitude straight out of this place. Like Plan9 and all the descendants the window system is a new take.
- Redox-OS: A new OS, fairly workable, nearly self hosting, on a micro kernel, while HURD rots in the corner.Got an installation I am playing with here.

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What did Gibson mean by this ???

>>62144089
http://www.guillermito2.net/stegano/index.html
https://pequalsnp-team.github.io/cheatsheet/steganography-101
http://datagenetics.com/blog/march12012/index.html
https://github.com/AlphaDelta/PNG-Mask
https://github.com/zardus/ctf-tools (search stego)

Non lossy steganography is pretty simple and it's a good practise for doing byte level bitmap adjustments. I don't yet know how stego could be handled in lossy form, aside from storing completely uncompressed data, say raw audio samples.

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>>62148679
I'll have a look. Thanks.

>>62153858
Cheers anon. If I dig up my old set of tools and the python script I'll drop them here as thanks.

>>62144748
>How about a useful VR "killer application" like VR Office etc

I don't think a single specific application can do this. I imagine a complete replacement for PC monitors would have to take place for VR to succeed. AR is even more likely to do that as it could better compensate for lack of outside information on such input devices as mouse or keyboard, things a joystick can't really contest. That of course requires higher resolution displays. Presumably human vision maxes out at about 8K by 8K per eye. So VR resolution would have to tripple even to get halfway there.

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>>62153608
This section is from Johnny Mnemonic. A really short tale by Gibson; even a slow reader (like me) should finish it in a few hours so it's a perfect evening read. Takes place in the same Sprawl universe as Neuromancer, the storytelling is a little less atmospheric however. Attempts to use several styles, which may seem jarring.
http://ran.2hu.moe/pawjmu.epub

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Cyber Noodle bump.

>>62153514
OpenVMS...that is an anon with taste...

I have run up against HP's implementation of OpenVMS in play as e-mail servers...that OS is one hell of a tank.

I always wanted to get into playing with OpenVMS/Vax,/FreeVMS/FreeVAX but I was/am kind of hesitant to get attached to a privately OS ( OpenVMS via HP), FreeVMS seemed to have dried up after the HP acquisition, while some other variations were under weird virtualization trials from smaller companies.

It has been awhile since I have looked into acquiring a copy though though, so I could be wrong about that now or then.

If I am right it is a damn shame. I have run into OpenVMS/Vax occasionally when attacking industrial/energy industry facilities, and I feel a more accessible version would do the wider world some good.

Grudgingly, I have to admit it was a great business decision on HP's part to acquire the rights...it is a beautiful Redwood of a an OS...not much meat to hit on them (they seem to magnify ClamAVs effectiveness somehow).

Thank god for human nature and the folks who contributed John the Ripper's VAX/VMS modules,

>>62084667
>>>/pol/139531902

>>62155035
This has been long established, yes.

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Just 2 cents and a bump here. I've been around and interested in Cyb since it dawned. And it's died back time and time again: SciFi lit has always been a niche and Cyb is just subniche so it doesn't last IMHO. Still, I wonder if it makes good foil (in the sense of radar) for real ops. 4chan for example is a humble Chinese cartoon website as Cyberpunk is an antiquated science fiction fandom. Those in the know can see the IRL parallels every day. Grateful to lurk these threads even if they will also grow dusty and quaint one day too.

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>>62153858
>>62153930
I found my old tools. Emphasis on old. They dont get any hits off the two sinkposts in the thread, so it looks like I need to do some updating.

Has a neat python script though. http://pastebin.com/raw/L3V9HxFh if anyone wants to have a look.

Quick list of dubious steg stuff: Gold-cli.jar, extract.exe, and using some strange method involving flattening and matting a bmp and extracting it with 7zip?

I don't even know.

are cheapo chinese consumer electronics /cyb/?

Any good /cyb/ related music?

All I think of is vaporwave

>>62153176
Reddit

>>62155405
only if you buy them yourself from a rainy alley in shenzen

>>62156097
ok cool

Page 10, bumperino

Billy idol was cyberpunk

>>62153514
Micro kernel?
What is Redox OS's main selling point?

>>62158594
Main selling point is going from unixoid philosophy "everything is a file" to "everything is a URL".

Not yet sure if it is a good idea but just taking it and running with it is something I like.

I need a bombproof laptop. What get?

>>62159637
I don't think that exists. Stop blowing up your laptops.

>>62154002
I have been involved in professional simulators and it is amazing what low resolution you can get away with and still achieve full immersion. With low resolution you can push faster update rates and better colours.

There is also some work underway with eye trackers so that the high resolution is only pushed just where you are looking. Most people are surprised how fast eye resolution drops off, even colour vision is lost outside the centre of the field of vision. Head mounted gear will most likely have a long future in front of it before we go to direct neural interfacing for personal use.

>>62115260
Literally no one uses the copycat site.
Thank God .org gets good traffic which makes for good threads.

Well, why doesn't everyone just use lainchan then?

== /cyb/ and /sec/ News

The IME gets a lot of attention and not in a good way. Here are some interesting news

>Disabling Intel ME 11 via undocumented mode
http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2017/08/disabling-intel-me.html
>Our team of Positive Technologies researchers has delved deep into the internal architecture of Intel Management Engine (ME) 11, revealing a mechanism that can disable Intel ME after hardware is initialized and the main processor starts. In this article, we describe how we discovered this undocumented mode and how it is connected with the U.S. government's High Assurance Platform (HAP) program.

(found via LWN)

>>62160605
well i got tabs open if that's what you are saying.
not exclusive to any place

Do you know anything about hackers? Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace? Ever read Neuromancer? Ever experience the new wave? Next wave? Dream wave? I didn't think so!

>>62161141
Think again

>>62155893
>Not listening to Electro Swing
>Being a pleb

Just look up Big Bad Voodoo Daddy

>>62161141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLlj_GeKniA

>>62158594
>Micro kernel?
Yes.

HURD, the grail project of FSF is supposed to be a micro kernel using L4 but after decades of talk it remains mainly talk. There is a Debian HURD out there but it only attests the tragedy that is HURD.

Redox-OS on the other hand works on a totally different level of intensity.

Micro kernels seem to experience a renaissance of sorts. Google's Fuchsia OS is based on the Magenta micro kernel. Theer are also others but interest in L4 seems to have died along with its creator.

>>62155893
Here different genres:
https://pastebin.com/raw/YMAiqELS
Should be pretty clear that no genre has single dominance. You can find different music with same themes.