/wt/ - Watch Thread

I like watches

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>tfw you will never own a tantalum decimal repeater voutilainen

https://youtu.be/IlJFLSVmEzY

>>61910825
H A N D M A D E

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>>61910727
Is there any good site beside Chrono24 that sell vintage DJ?

>>61910867
I've seen a fair number of them on yahoo.jp auctions. Whether you want to through the hassle of a proxy and whatnot is up to you.

>>61910867
Bob's watches isn't the cheapest place but they're legit.

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Thoughts on this watch?

>>61910888
It's dogshit m8. Hope you didn't pay much for it.

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>>61910888

>>61910888
>>61910756

>>61910888
>E-sport
no thanks

>>61910885
>isn't the cheapest place
Yup, that's for sure, just got a quick look and the prices is pretty high. Although the condition and the warranty they have is pretty tempting.

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should i trade?

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Goodnight /wt/

>>61910905
10 bucks m8

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>>61911137
Look how spotless this watch is, I almost couldn't believe it's like 18 years old. In the original box with papers and brochures and everything. I'm pretty pleased, even if the price was higher than ebay/chrono24 and the purchasing process is a pain in the ass. They make you jump through some hoops to verify your identity.

Check locally too especially if you're in a big city. DJs are pretty popular watches and you may find a gem in some local store, just be careful and do some research on it before you buy it.

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>want a decent used vintage Swiss watch
>Can't justify spending $500 or more on a fucking watch until I'm at the point in my life where my loans are paid off, I own a house, and make at least triple my current post graduate salary
Why do I even come to these threads? Either I'm envious or get duped into buying a piece of shit like a Seiko or an Orient

>>61911163
The watch on the shelf much more aesthetically pleasing than the one in your wrist, but honestly keep it. It's kind of pathetic to try to have a decent looking watch on your wrist and have it be a timex. You're better off with an ugly "my mom got it for me" watch

>>61910727
Does anyone know of a good paracord strap for a Caliber 89?

>>61911496
I hope you mean the IWC one.

>>61911438
yeah, i see what you're saying. i was only asking cause they're around the same price and i can return the weekender i currently have. the weekender's got that classic shitter watch that anyone can identify and the other one looks kinda like any other watch

oi niggas i got some stupid ass watches and i want nato straps what are some cool colors

>>61911381
Get a decent Seiko 5 and hold out senpai. Saving up for a speedmaster so I know the feeling.

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how come watches dont say the face/dial size and instead give the case size? some cases are huge with small faces, or the other way around. it's kind of annoying, cause i like bigger faces/dials.

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Should I cop? Don't know anything about this band, does anyone have any experience with one?

>>61912653
*brand. I can't fucking type on mobile

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these guys keep coming in waves
>>61912653

>>61911381
Orient watches aren't shit m80. At least for me. My Bambino 4 has really good accuracy, my skx007 does not. I love seiko though and my skx007 definitely has its purpose.
>tfw hand winding feedback
It's extremely satisfying.

>>61912653
>13mm lugs
that's small as shit, and not too good for the price.

>>61912689
>>61912725
I'll go ahead and skip the purchace. It's hard to tell if these Craiglist sellers are posting at an accurate price or not. Thanks

>>61912653
Archie Luxury would call it an absolute shitter. I don't like him too much because his videos are so brain dead but he'd be right on this one.
>Side note
I can remember all the good luxury watch brand names when watching his videos because he repeats them so much in his retarded voice.
>Omega speedmaster MAN ON THE MOOOOON

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>>61912764
I wonder how he gets when he hears people say it was faked.

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>>61910888

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>>61908645
Reference 16800 was the last good sub. Compare it to the next in line, the 16610, and you will see what I mean.

>>61912653
Kind of crap, but $75 is nothing. If you like how it looks go for it.

Now if it were $200+ I'd say stay away.

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I get that the Timex Weekender is a shitter, but this might be the most attractive lume I've ever seen on a watch under $200.

>>61911335

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>>61913436
They changed the design from tool to luxury watches. Not surprising really, Rolex is now just a brand to buy to brag about how they're "made it" for normies.

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>>61911335
beautiful mang, i cant afford this right now or the near foreseeable future which is why i'd love to get a SARB or at the very latest this year a DJ homage like this one and IDGAF if trolls here are gonna tell me its 'dogshit m8'

>>61910888
fuck it man if you dig it then ignore the fags to the left.

>>61913436
Ah I see, you're a diver watch amateur. Ok let me teach you a little :)

The added those "luxury" features such polished markers because it increases night visibility where your lume has worn off due to reflections.

You're welcome!

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post your shitters that you've had forever and is reliable!

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What's /wt/'s opinions on shark leather straps?

They look good and apparently are water resistant. Also not as expensive as crocodile and ostrich.

>>61914126
That's some nasty shitter.

>>61914361
Had it since 90s was gifted,a nice straightforward piece. Where's yours

>>61914518
By the way you write, your curry skin and your nasty shitter I know you are a Pajeet.

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>>61905076
>There's a video of him throwing a patek into wet concrete as construction workers were paving a road.
Why?

>>61914578
By the way I write- lol you faggot I was driving hence 'the way I write' so where's your nasty shitter then?

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>>61914700
>driving while typing on his phone

Can you get more Indian than this?
Here's my shitter.

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>>61914856
nice shitter you bangla.

>>61914856
nice SARB but is it me or does it look massive on your pasty wrist?

>>61912716
I got bamboozled into getting an Orient agent watch from Mass drop. The thing is way uglier than it looked in pics, barely keeps decent time, and the second hand doesn't stop when you're setting the time which pissed me off. Thinking about selling it on eBay for a $30 loss

>>61915596
picture?

>>61914310
They look cool. the water resistance would depend on the padding used. They may be cheaper than your hoity toity croc straps, but does a 3rd world country sell them cheap on eBay?

>>61915341
> is it me or does it look massive on your pasty wrist?

It's you, I'm afraid.

>>61915927
nah, its massive on you.

>>61915955

Watches look larger in pictures than they actually are when they are taken with a phone camera from a close distance.

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Half broken bagel in sverige

>>61916086
regardless- great watch, would love a 35 if i can ever afford it.

>>61911804
Because you can clearly tell the ratio between face/case size from pictures.

Now the real question is, does case size mean horizontal case diameter, lug-to-lug distance, or case diameter with the crown? Sellers don't have a consensus on this.

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>61910732


>"Nonsense. Grand Seikos are probably the best finished production watches in the world, period. Seiko throws so much labour at the ~5,000 watches a year that Grand Seiko makes, that their level of finishing has more in common with JLC than Rolex.

If you cannot tell that level of finishing appart from a $400 Seiko, then you are an absolute pleb."


Grand Seiko obviously has better finishing than their SARX line as it has none at all... The cases are both finished well but GS obviously also gives slightly better bracelets. I honestly don't know why you care about the finishing on such a plain movement or why you would want a display caseback on half the GS's anyway...

> "Grand Seikos are probably the best finished production watches in the world, period. "

holy fuck you Seiko cucks are actually delusional.

>>61914856
those watches are 38mm but their wear fucking huge... why does seiko make all their cases so fat?

>>61916731
>Grand Seiko obviously has better finishing than their SARX line as it has none at all...
I was referring to case/bracelet/dial/hands finishing rather than movement finishing.

>holy fuck you Seiko cucks are actually delusional.
Do you understand what "production watches" means? It means series produced watches as opposed to handmade watches. Haute horlogerie brands are not production watches.

So, yes, Grand Seiko does have better finishing on its cases/dials/hands/bracelets and movements than Rolex, Omega, etc.

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>>61916789
fukin enormous dood

>>61916847
how can you just say something like they have better case dial hand finishing than Rolex? it makes no fucking sense. How are you even judging that?

>>61916929
The same way you tell that a Rolex has better finishing than a Vostok.

>>61916952
what? Rolex has superb finishing... are you putting it under a microscope? how can you just decide seiko has better finishing? also there are many production lange's, pateks, aps, etc that all have far better finishing than grand seikos.

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>>61914856
Twink.

>>61916925
Actual grown-ass man.

When people start complaining about 38mm sporty watches I know /wt/ has a hormonal problem.

>>61916997
People have put them under microscopes, but macro photography should be good enough. I'm not the other guy, but I think he meant closer to mass-produced than just production. No one thinks than Seiko has better finishing than Lange, that's retarded. Seiko has better finishing than some of the really low-end Pateks (see beveling comparison image) but definitely not Pateks in general.

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>>61917040
you are talking about movement bevels lol .. the gs movement basically looks like a 6r15 anyway so who gives a fuck? oh and when the watch looks like this it doesn't matter anyway.

>>61911335
That's fucking beautiful, Jesus Christ

>>61917040
also a magnifier is not a microscope.

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>>61916929
>>61916997
This is a macro photo showing the level of finishing on the hands and indices on a Grand Seiko.

Also haute horlogerie brands are not considered production watches period, Rolexes are probably the second best finished production watches after GS. Substitute "mass production" for production if that helps you understand the difference.

>>61917051
Ah, I see you are just shitposting then. Nevermind then.

>>61917085
show me a zoomed view of rolex hands so e can compare them.. So you are excluding all swiss brands? All those brands produce a fair number of watches every year... What other brands are you including?

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>>61917085
this looks nicer it has better finsihing

>>61917133
I've never seen a Death Star phase complication before, neat.

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>>61917133
Rolex doesn't even attempt stuff like the alternating brushed and hand mirror polished finishes on components as small as segments of a hand, or surfaces on a baton. Rolex tends to use simpler single finishes on hands and batons, and the same is true of their cases and bracelets.

>>61911335
That watch is so well designed. God i want one... wear it in good health anon.

>>61917185
what is the Cellini?

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First for glorious cccp
>B-b-but it's ukrainian

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>>61917207
Even on their Cellini line they do not use nearly as much adjacent alternating finishing, nor are the polished portions hand mirror polished as they are on Grand Seikos. Just look at the edges of the dauphine hands here to see what I mean.

>>61917215
>cccp
>Ukrainian
It says 'made in Russia' right there on the dial anon.

>>61917246
the cellini hands are mirror polished.. just because they don't use alternating finishing which you didn't even post an example of doesn't meant hey have inferior finishing.. you are also comparing different watch styles.. you simply won't win .. there is no evidence anywhere that gs has better finishing.. Furhtermore GS has shit design.. their cases and dials look horrible compared to most Swiss designs.

>>61917185
Beveled surfaces on hands and indices are a Seiko thing and they look great on Seikos, simpler but still very well done polished surfaces are the Rolex thing. I don't know why you people are arguing about this, they're different aesthetics and they're both good and done done to a very high standard. Maybe you should also consider that GS uses stainless steel which allows for the type of look that Seiko wants and Rolex uses white gold which allows for the look Rolex wants. It would be kind of silly to take white gold and start cutting sharp bevels into it, and trying to brush it would be even more retarded considering humanity has been coveting gold for millenia precisely because it's really shiny. You people just cannot appreciate different things for what they are, trying to rank everything into an objective power ranking from worst to best is literally autism.

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My LM Special has passed through customs. Now i just wait to see how much they raped me for.

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>>61917315
Literally even the Rolex Forums disagree with you ( https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=272575 ), but as you've just clearly stated you intend to be obstinate no matter what evidence is presented to you I will leave it at that.

>>61917068
I know, retard, I meant what I said. People have used microscopes.

>>61917404
>https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=272575

one guy on the rolex forums says he thinks gs has better hand finishing on two watches that can't even be compared because of their totally different styles.. maybe you should consider you are clearly biased and that both watches are finished equally well. When you consider that the vast majority of people find seiko's case and dial design significantly lacking you'll then realize why they can't get away with charging even as much as a private seller charges for a second hand Rolex.

>>61916731
If you don't believe that ask dufour he loves grand seikos.

>Dufour warns the "too-comfortable" Swiss watch industry that they are no longer the clear winners of watches. He gives considerable weight to the work done by the Germans, Japanese, and even the Chinese.

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>>61917538
Don't bother with him anon. Seikofags are the Nissan GT-R fans of the watch world.

>I really think Ford really nailed it with the '72 Gran Tori..
>YEAH WELL DID YOU KNOW NISSAN MAKES A SPORTS CAR THAT GOES EVEN FASTER? HAHA ENJOY YOUR STRAIGHT LINES. CAN'T TURN xddd. I MEAN YEAH I PERSONALLY ONLY DRIVE A '97 HONDA WITH A PLASTIC BODY KIT AND THE ENGINE SOUNDS LIKE A GO-KART BUT IT'S WAY BETTER THAN THAT NEW CHALLENGER YOU OWN. FEELING PRETTY STUPID, HUH?

Same guy.

>>61914856
yup i was right, looks massive here but normal here javascript:quote('61916925')

>>61916925
nice and on a normal wrist.

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>>61916925
God damn add another link and wear that a little further down how do you even bend your wrist like that? I'm pretty bitchwristed too but not nearly as bad as the first anon.

>>61914856
>>61917873
I think the first guy just took a bad perspective shot.

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>>61917538
Just because I understand that finishing work actually costs labour time and that massively more hand finishing labour is spent on Grand Seikos than Rolexes does not make me biased. It is you that is conflating how much you like a brand with how much work is out into the finish. If you actually understood manufacturing you would realize how absurd it is for Seiko to throw as much labour at ~5,000 watches a year as they do with GS.

>>61917772
Sorry, what was that, I couldn't hear you over the sound of your own desperate aspirationalism.

>>61916925
>>61917873
What model Seiko?

>>61918030
sarb035

>>61918046
Thanks, that's the first one I've ever seen that looks worth the money

>>61916925
They're called wristwatches, not handwatches.

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My 115€ Russian Breitling just arrived and t's working perfectly. Weights quite a lot for it's size. Still don't know what strap tongues for it, the steel one it came is crap and a nato will make it higher than it already is. Opinions?

>>61917997
You are the one that misunderstands. Just because one design requires more hand work does not mean the finishing itself is superior. I know a little bit about manufacturing as i am a machinist and program large multiple axes cnc machines on a daily basis. You are also grossly overestimating how much work goes into hand finishing gs's.

also not a single person here give a fuck about your fathers old datejust.. and its funny that you use that instead of some mystical grand seiko to show your legitimacy.

>>61918359
2 piece nylon strap?

>>61918359
can't you fucking idiots rotate the pictures before uploading them? the watch is cuck btw.

>>61918426
>you are grossly overestimating how much work goes into hand finishing gs's

Not who you're replying to but don't you think that's a bit of a claim without evidence? Not trying to get two wrapped up in this autism but as another anon pointed even dufour has taught the japs hand finishing and is very much impressed by their work as compared to the Swiss. Sure you might not want to take Candanons word for it but dufour ...

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>>61918426
>You are the one that misunderstands. Just because one design requires more hand work does not mean the finishing itself is superior.
Guess that means Rolex is as good as ALS and every haute horlogerie watchmaker can shut down then! You've literally argued yourself into dismissing haute horlogerie in its entirety in your zeal to shitpost about Grand Seiko. Congratulations.

>You are also grossly overestimating how much work goes into hand finishing gs's
No I am not: https://youtu.be/2rnZhkTINV4

>its funny that you use that instead of some mystical grand seiko to show your legitimacy.
It's merely an efficient way of nipping "LMAAO UR JUST POOR!!!" arguments in the bud.

>>61918469
my man have you ever hand polished metal? Rolex does it just as well as seiko.. what i am i saying i just because seiko has to polish more because their design it doesn't mean they are better at moving little sticks over edges with polish...I am not saying sieko has bad finishing rather it is not better than the finishing found on other top brands. I did not make the claim that seiko has the best finishing out of any serial production watch brand.

>>61918444
>an't you fucking idiots rotate the pictures before uploading them?

Posting from my phone, it rotates the pictures randomly every time I post on 4chan from it.

>the watch is cuck btw.

What did he mean by this?

>>61918499
No one said you were poor.. that does not nip anything in the bud.. your video does not show that seiko is finished better than rolex. I did not dismiss anything and i am not shitposting.. You claim gs has the best finishing out of any brand that is not "haute horologerie" every brand besides Rolex you claimed did not produce a significant number of watches.. then keep saying gs has better finishing than rolex because their design has more polished parts... you just posted some video of some fucking nips assembling gs's... congratulations post a video of the rolex facility now. You have no argument whatsoever besides your clearly biased opinion because you jerk off to your vintage seikos and love talking about the two old seiko factories. All i ever said was that seiko did not have superior finishing to all other brands.. a claim you yourself made with no basis whatsoever.

>>61917997
Dad's Rolex?

Can someone post that screencap from the interview with Francois Journe or maybe it was some other watchmaker where he says
>You have to be a little autistic

I think that's very relevant to this thread right now.

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>>61918508
>>61918568
>Just because one design requires more hand work does not mean the finishing itself is superior
We're already done here, as you already argued yourself into claiming ALS is no better than Rolex. I'm not interested in wasting any more entertaining your nonsense.

What does it mean if your watch's crystal reflects green?

>>61918679
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF FINISHING.. there are a million other reasons why one is better than the other... the quality of finishing is what was being discussed here... were are done here because you are terminally fucking retarded.

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I've just found out it has hacking function, noice. The movement must be a 31659 movement instead of the basic 3133.

>>61911319
The free watch just pay shipping scam?

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>>61917404
GS hands are a miracle. If you haven't seen a mechanical GS hands in person I highly recommend finding one to look at. Particularly the ones with brushed top surfaces and polished sides.

>>61917177
The moon in the new Cellini Moonphase is made from real meteorite rock so every watch looks different.

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>>61918679
>>61918499
>>61917997
>>61917404
>>61917085

You have to go back.

What are some good Russian watches with Swiss type movements I can get for the same price as a decent Seiko?

>>61919689
Bought it from a dude who didn't know how to reset the chronohand and replace a broken springbar.

>>61911335
one word: boring

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>>61918359
>>61919072

It is not easy to win in the chronograph game, if you buy something unknown you might get something you greatly dislike. However, this piece has superb fininishing, a very reliable and a robust in-house movement and a very formidable, militaresque design. I think you did a great purchace anon and i wish this timepiece soothes your mind for years to come.

>>61918512
If you are phone posting then just slightly crop the picture and it won't rotate.

>>61920119
Should be made from moon rock brought back by the Apollo missions.

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Wrist check guys!

>>61920916
Aren't you ashamed to wear that in public?

>>61920971
>implying terrorists are ashamed of anything

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Is the anon who services his own watches here?

How would i go around on servicing this?
What grease and oil do you use and how do you clean the parts?

>>61921098
ultra sonic cleaning and mobius with oilers.. you really need mutliple oil types.. its gonna cost you like 100 to start assuming you have cleaner and all the other tools already.

>>61921098
That's a Soviet movement, so it's enough to rinse it in soapy water and then spray some WD-40 on it.

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>>61920916

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>>61918444
4chan is a 1980s era technology that doesn't support exif.

>>61920971
No.
>>61920998
But that's an F-84W not an F-91W.

Left /wt/ at the height of AC3 and TGV shitposting, finished college, found a job, stopped having an obsession with watches.
Yet I come back after a year and see the same watches, tripfags and arguments.

>>61921309
Wasn't it removed for not doxing normies with iphone?

Hey /wt/

Going to Japan in October and looking to get a nice watch or two. Any recommendations on what stores to visit or general watches to look for. I will be in Tokyo for the majority of the trip. I know this is a vague overly general question/request but any help would be greatly appreciated.

I went last year and am still kicking myself for not buying a watch. Did pick up a beautiful Cordovan wallet though.

>>61922147
Jack Road

>>61921309
>>61922042
/p/ still has exif support.

>>61922272
Thanks! It's only 20 min by train from my hotel. Definitely going to stop in.

>>61914655

He's not a bitch like Obama who exclusively has a collection of shitters and a watch some USSS nig gifted him.

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I am meme now

>>61922469
Link?

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>>61922469
Inferior meme.

>>61917215
Vostoks are made in Chistopol though.

>>61922272
I will also be visiting Japan soon but not looking for anything too expensive. Just some basic shit. Is this store good for that or is it all just rolexes, omegas, and other higher need stuff?

Seiko is better than rolexez

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>>61922469
>>61922608
Absolutely beautiful, I love these classic Casio designs, they truly take me back in time. Casio makes some really fashionable and unpretendous designs, I wear mine with pride.

>>61922608
>kid's watch
>better than Osama's choice of timepiece
bet they can't even power a detonator

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do you all hate timexes?

>>61917269
not him but i think he meant where it was sold from

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>>61923385
Timex is a respectable brand with a lot of history behind it, nothing but love for Timex.

>>61923431
so there's no shame in buying a weekender or something similar if i enjoy cool watches?

>>61923446
Don't ask /g/ about buying it for style. If you couldn't care less about the watch in any other aspect but you like what it looks like buy it

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helb me i need a few nato straps that would look good on this piece of shit. the band that came with it is horrible

>>61923446
>>61923503
Better off with a Timex than any fashion watch.

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>>61923534
>>61923534
Is Fossil a fashion watch?

Considering this.

https://www.fossil.com/us/en/products/sport-54-chronograph-luggage-leather-watch-and-bracelet-box-set-sku-ch3090setp.html

>>61923788
Fossil is a fashion watch

>>61922469
>lelongwatch

kek

>>61923788
Fossil is the definition of fashion watch and they're the reason that there's all those shitty designer watches out there. They also own Skagen.
They're not bad per-se, but just remember that you're getting one because it looks nice and not for things like accuracy or horological wankery.

Also check out eBay and outlet stores like Nordstrom Rack. I remember seeing Fossil watches in there all the time for less than MSRP.

>>61923788
$108?! sorry, maybe if it were like $60, that's overpriced. you might as well find some seiko or something

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>>61923788
If you're going to get a Fossil Speedmaster knockoff, at least get one of these so you get ripped off less.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fossil-CH3026-Sport-54-Black-Dial-Silver-Stainless-Steel-Chrono-Mens-Watch/152648359120?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45560%26meid%3D17552b96d02244c6a6f432bebc46e259%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D332036437941&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Fossil-Sport-54-Black-Silicone-Strap-Stainless-Steel-44mm-Watch-FS5290-/391863412354?epid=2126975631&hash=item5b3ce12682:g:4V4AAOSwq8BZbWS1

>>61923110
What about mine Tristano?
>>61920916

>>61923960
wow this one looks much better, thanks.

>>61923518
Black or olive green.

>>61923849
really? my dad told me quartz was more accurate than mechanical.

>>61914005
Actually, I love that. Wish the movement had hacking and hand winding.

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>>61914126
>>61914856
>>61916925
ITT: people who wear their watches on their fucking hands, not their wrist.

>>61924099
Your 'dad' bought the lie that quartz was more accurate, cheaper to buy, cheaper to service, and more durable than a Swiss mechanical movement.

I'd fact check everything he says from now on.

>>61924239
That's all accurate. If you think otherwise, you have major delusions.

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>>61924179

>>61924338
one is retarded two is perfect 3 is retarded

>>61924099
Generally speaking, yes they are and they'll be more accurate than a mechanical wristwatch in the same price point, but there are cheap quartz movements out there that can be wildly inaccurate due to them being just pieces of shit. Compared to a brand like Timex, Fossil watches and their owned brands have had a reputation for not having the best quality control; especially so with Skagen for whatever reason.

>>61924414
This. Right behind the wristbone is the perfect balancing point for a watch, and doesn't make it look too small or to large.

>>61922469
Mfw I told a dad at my church that Osama bin Laden wore the same watch as him

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HOMOS knows their customer base all too well

>>61924414
>>61910756

>>61924534
really don't understand the hate for this brand

>>61924563
It's nu-male """horology"""

>>61924570
what is it that makes it nu-male
they do in house watches at a decent price point. i'd rather buy a german watch that was actually made in germany than a swiss watch that's made all over the world.

>>61924563
I've tried their watches on in a boutique, they're really impressive, especially their DUW-3001 line.

Unfortunately their branding is atrocious, and they're addicted to garish colours. They have a head of design who is obsessed with really shitty off-shoots of bauhaus aesthetic.

>>61924688
What is the quintessential German watch company?

Seems like there are a handful with the exact same designs.

>>61924563
Memes. These threads are garbage.
>>61924570
>>61923431
>>61923110
>>61920424
>>61920238
>>61919696
>>61915279
>>61910756

>>61924737
A Lange & Sohne

>>61924787
see
>>61910756

>>61924652
Because their entire design is based around bastardized thought of (((post-modernism))) which revolves around the destruction of classical aesthetics in place of """minimalism""".

>>61924806
Isn't Bauhaus classical already?

>>61924563
Derivative designs and far below average finishing for their price tier. Too bad, they have some decent movements.

>>61924563
Contrarian shitposters mostly. But memes aside while I think they have a lot to offer I acknowledge that the visual aesthetics of there watches are definitely not for everyone. Yes there are some more widely agreeable designs there are also some more playful ones that won't appeal to everyone. I as well find myself not liking more models and only liking a few. I think their movement being made as in house as it is is impressive and looks great (Have held one in person btw). My biggest issue is the case feels cheap. Maybe that is my bias towards using brushed and polished finishes to define the shape. But to be honest the case, while proportioned and designed well, its execution looks unrefined.

>>61924534
I wear my watch between one and two no idea how that makes me like nomos

>>61924918
Just go back to fucking reddit already.

>>61924534
>>61924992
you are actually fucking crazy .. maybe step back from the computer for a while

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>>61924992
>what I don't like is reddit

fuck off kid

>>61924414
One isn't retarded, it's just how old fucks wear the same watch they've owned since 1970.

>save up money as a fly guy in your 30's
>buy a 2-tone rolex datejust
>40 years on, your gold bracelet has stretched, and you're the kind of old where you begin losing weight

They're on the way out, leave em be.

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>>61925036
>>61925055
r/watches is that way buddy →

>>61925061
No one is commenting on old people we are talking about how we should wear watches...

>>61925078
bruh u actually should consider maybe not posting anymore. You are making yourself look completely fucking retarded.

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Opinions on Earnshaw? More specifically, this model of beaufort?

From a design perspective, I love it. I just dont know what kind of movement they use.

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>>61925093
Absolutely vile! Begone with you, Redditor!

>>61925093
>>61925078
>>61925055
>>61925036
>>61924992
>>61924918
>>61910756
all fags

>>61925113
>>61912689

>>61925119
holy fuk u r crazy

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>>61925119
saving

Seiko Flightmaster, yea or nay?

>>61925211
they look bretty cool but are expensive for what they are

>>61924534
>>61924570
>>61924806
https://www.revolution.watch/budget-recommendations-from-watchmaking-grandmasters/?old-article
>Philippe Dufour: I would say that you could buy at this price, maybe a bit less, a very good watch in terms of value and quality. It’s not Swiss — sorry — [but] a German brand called NOMOS. I found that this brand makes a very serious product. I like these watches, and for somebody who wants to start, I think this will be a good [choice]: not too expensive and good value for money.

>>61925294
Don't post a reply to that guy is terminally retarded

>>61925294
That they're using in house movements & that they're pretty thin is nice. It's too bad that it's overpriced considering the finishing of the case or the simplicity of the dial/hands.

>>61925344
You know whats also nice about them? They make watches at the correct size.

>>61925344
This is how I feel about them too.
+ they are going thin and well sized
+ they are doing their own movements and improving them over time
- they are expensive for what you get
- they have an uninspired uninteresting design imo

>>61925374
The diameters offered are pretty good, but it'd be better if the lug to lug width wasn't so huge.

>>61925411
I Wish they honestly just had an even simpler design. I don't like their white face orange hand bullshit and their off colors. They looks pretty decent to my eyes but you are right for the price they need to do more.

>>61925344
They aren't for me aesthetically, but I really respect the effort they put into becoming a true in-house movement designer and manufacturer.

>>61925414
also true

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>>61925426
Orion is pretty much their cleanest watch.

the short lug to lug meme needs to end

>>61925459
If those lugs were smaller and that case was finished a bit better i would have no problem spending 2 on that.

>>61925459
lugs are way too long.

>>61925464
No long lugs are fucking gross man... Its not a fucking meme.

>>61925477
The 35mm versions lug to lug is 44mm, which really is not that long at all even by contemporary standards.

>>61925464
The people wearing watches with lugs that overhang their wrists meme needs to die.

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>>61925136

Okay so let me get this straight. Unless its a rolex, seiko, cartier or some other obnoxiously expensive watch, it is otherwise some random chinese brand that is not worth paying for.

Is this what all these threads are about? You honestly dont care for style if the movement isnt swiss or japanese?

All I was asking for is what you think of the Earnshaw design and if anyone knew what kind of movement they used (in the interest of knowing if it will stop working after 6 months.)

>>61925507
btw the 36mm rolex explorer is the same lug to lug at 44mm

>>61925523
I actually agree. case size should be no larger than 36mm and lugs should extend far enough that the strap is at least 5mm away from the case.

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>>61925464
I've got the watch for you.

>>61925535
They use shitty Chinese mechanical movements with inconsistent QC. The name "Earnshaw" comes from an 18th century watchmaker, but they have absolutely nothing to do with him. Goes to show how honest of a company they are.

>>61925507
I totally get that but they are also different designs. The lug width is accentuated by the case design. The Nomos is a more traditional wrist watch with a round case and lugs extending out. The Rolex has lugs that part of the lines of the case. That watch is not as bad as many i have seen but it would be perfect with shorter lugs.

>>61925535
>Cartier
I bet you think Movados are high end too.

>>61925459
Should have gone with the Orion 33.

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What's the deal with this Seiko? I've always been a sucker for the Tank aesthetic and I came across this interesting dual dial Seiko, but I can't find anything except the movement which is a 1E20-5610.

>>61923431
>>61923110
why do you guys make fun of him? I mean, you're not even making fun of him, really, but you're clearly trying

he's a normal guy and his channel is really inoffensive and normal, he makes basically completely sensible points

>autism

>>61925464
Long lugs were the maxi-case of their day.

It's ugly shit, and was driven by insecure fags who didn't want a "woman's" watch, so companies put larger lugs on women's watches.

>>61925698
Except I can both enjoy my mid range Seiko while at the same time not being under the delusion that it is a luxury timepiece.

>>61925727
>he's a normal guy and his channel is really inoffensive and normal
You realize his accent, backstory and aristocratic airs are all fake right? The whole channel exists to shill microbrand shitters to the gulible.

>>61925823
>You realize his accent, backstory and aristocratic airs are all fake right? The whole channel exists to shill microbrand shitters to the gulible.
...he basically confirms the opinion of every normal, sensible person on every watch board ever

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here

he's just a guy posting videos on youtube, this isn't a CIA special operation you fuck

>>61924338
>>61924414
I keep my bracelet a little loose and i switch from 1 to 3 everytime i change the position of my arm

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>>61925535

>>61925879
>equating advertising toward morons to a CIA special operation

>>61926001
> The whole channel exists to shill microbrand shitters to the gulible

>>61925823
>You realize his accent
Is legitimate, he hasn't lived in the USA for anywhere close to long enough to catch their shit accent. He has shown plenty of pics of him pre America so fake accent is a massive stretch. I don't like him or his videos but come on don't be retarded.
>backstory and aristocratic airs are all fake right?
Your talking about his grandfather? He had close ties to him growing up, that isn't that uncommon. He has 2 or so gifts from him that he treasures, not uncommon at all. He isn't and never was well off and Mr. Fancypants if you are getting at that. He has never tried to be that unless you equate his accent to status like a retarded American would.
Or are you talking about knowing his family history? which is not uncommon at all, I have a family crest ect I could show you, doesn't mean shit. Again only a retarded American would equate that to being rich or fancy.
>The whole channel exists to shill microbrand shitters to the gulible.
Seiko is a micro brand? Because that's really the only brand he bangs on about. That's just knowing his audience and catering to them. This is a step in the right direction to the real reason for not liking him imo.

>>61926064
agreed

>>61925879
I don't like her for a myriad of reasons. He has shit taste in almost everything but maybe 3 watches she has ever had. Obvious shill... shilling multiple stores/brands... and he is a fucking pussy manchild with toys all over the place. She also places objects all of the table hen reviewing watches for no discernible reason.

>>61926064
a bullslhit last name crest does nto equal a family crest. Family crests are only held by noble families.

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>youtuber drama
Fuck off already

>>61926136
>her
>she
??

>>61925727
watching brand new tgv video

https://youtu.be/LUwioLGl7Do?t=19m6s

19 minutes 6 seconds

>>61926209
PART AND PARCEL

>>61926150
You do know that there is more than one crest for every last name right?
You do know there are tens of thousands or more of nobles and that have had families right?
You do know that those families had families, and those families had families and so forth and can trace back to their noble ancestry right?
You do realise how large the number of people that could do that is right?
You do know that family heirlooms with some form of name and crest can and have been passed down through generations to first borne males for hundreds of years right?
You do realise being related to some distant distant noble means nothing right?
Say actual reasons for disliking him, don't make up theories about how things he has shown proof of are fake.

>>61926209
>I'm willing to overlook massive flaws because mah Seiko entry level

>>61926221
>>61926505
starting to think this place is just full of ugly virgins who are jealous of the fact that he's handsome and a good speaker

I bet he has a lot of friends while you guys are lonely losers

that's probably why you come here to talk about watches with the only other people who will tolerate your annoying flaws

>>61926525
TGV gets criticized because he's a pretentious twat trying to present a false image of himself. That and a reviewer who likes everything he reviews is pretty useless.

>>61926568
> pretentious twat
> likes everything he reviews
:thinking:

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>>61926525
>Defending a fake brit with a fake accent who fakes being able to speak iItalian and fakes some aristocratic heritage to huckster gullible dumbfucks while shilling for SKKKKWWWWAAALLEEEEEEEE
I bet you thought FPSRussia was Russian LMAO

>>61925731
You go full heritage or none at all, you don't get to pick and choose motherfucker, thats not classy.

>>61926579
https://youtu.be/VlroazHIESc?t=5m56s

Tell me if you can spot the difference between this and an average TGV video.

>>61926597
Thought you were talking about Archie for a second there until you got to Squale.

>>61926525
I don't like how he is willing to overlook what should be considered base features because mah reasons.

>>61926643
>unfunny shit that appeals mostly to childish idiots
if you can watch this for more than 15 seconds without rolling your eyes and shutting it off, you have the mind of a child and are probably very stupid

>>61926690
Yes tell me more about your sophisticated taste, gentle sir. Mayhaps I can find some commonplace with your taste and enjoy a jolly guffaw along with you.

Fuck off cunt.

>>61926715
>being this assblasted over getting called out
kek

>>61926731
>getting that mad over some aussie cunt taking this piss out of your favorite fake italian

I can play this retarded game just as well as you m8.

>>61926643
Dozens to tell the truth. He is obviously trying to parody him but is missing the point of a lot of things. Really comes off as a "I wish I was in the cool kids club" vid more than a "here are some reasons I don't like this person's content" type video. But you keep hating him for retard reasons.

>>61926740
>no u
we have reached an impasse you cunt

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>>61926761
How about instead of pretending you not liking archie's cunty humor makes you somehow superior you actually post something relevant then?

>>61926809
>not being a childish idiot doesn't make me superior to a childish idiot
sound logic senpai

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>>61926841
It just makes you a snob m8.

>>61926525
t. tgv

>>61926809
what is the purpose of a chronograph this precise when the human response time is over 200ms?

>>61927139
>the only options are childish idiot or snob
thinking so hard rn

>>61927156
Probably more just to show off that they could make a mechanical chrono that precise.

>>61927174
What is taking the indifferent approach? We may never know.

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Where were you when you realized /wt/ is a collection of remedial shitposting?

>>61926643
if you don't find archy funny you are an overly serious cunt.

>>61911163
what model # is that white timex?

>>61927252
neither of them are white? the one in the box is very brown

>>61927198
Yea this place is full of false flagging, avatar fagging, contrarian for the sake of shitposting, youtube eceleb drama, hair splitting antagonistic goalpost moving arguing, Arguments that basically come down to "Stop likeing what I don't like!", and LARPing as haute horlogerie consumers who look down on everything else.

>>61927302
the arguments are the worst. I saw this one guy making some semblance of a point about some retardedly inane topic and some other guy pointing to a comment with literally no substance whatsoever saying it was proof that his point was correct... literal autism.

Also i like all good watches i don't care about brand.. you have fucking the worst fanboy son here sometimes.. it is fucking horrible.

>>61927302
>>61927503
Two actual shitposters complaining about the quality of the thread.

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>>61927503
>literal autism.

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>>61910357

>The real cancer in the watch community is consumerists who totally fall for the modern art of watchmaking, which consists of treating the actual manufacturing of the watch as a cost center to be minimized in favour of the enhanced "prestige" that can be more easily created through marketing and advertising. Modern Omega being a prime example, though at least not so egregious as IWC and Panerai.

What the actual fuck are you talking about? Omega and IWC are much more than marketing and advertising. And what the actual fuck does that have to do with me pointing out that someone is better served buying a beater like an SKX as their first '''real automatic"" and then saving for an entry level luxury watch like a speedy or a second hand sub.

The marketing bullshit is stuff like TGV reviewing every $500-700 , Squale and Presage or Padi Seiko watch and using the words "luxurious" in every sentence. These (except Squale shit) are nice watches but doing a fucking disservice to poorfags becuase they keep getting hooked into watches that likely cost $100 to make tops.

Don't call out Omega because it's latest trend on /wt/, they do nothing egregious with their marketing other than put their watches in a movie or two. Yes I agree Panerai are watches for retards.

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>>61927646
>What the actual fuck are you talking about?

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>>61927689
T-Thank you Swatch-sama

>>61927689
>>61927716

samefag

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>>61927730
hmm?

>>61927689
>>61927716

oh look more shitposting.. every time we try to have a reasonable thread its all shitposting by fucking Canadians no less.

I like watches.

>>61927823
>Pointing out that Omega uses chink made parts is shitposting

>>61927847
Your kind doesn't belong here

>>61927823
>posts proof of omega being a shit brand
>shitposting
I fucking had enough already. GO BACK TO REDDlT

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>>61927847
Thanks for sharing.

>>61927849
using that information in some sort of cohesive response would have been a good way to do it.. a receipt and a watch that says cuckmaster on it ... not so much. ......... now lets have a 30 minute argument about what is and what isn't shitposting

>>61927847
I don't like you.

>>61927888
why don 't you just fucking kill yourself... then maybe ill think about going on reddit to shitpost about how i got you to kill yourself.

Who's this fucking shitposter and where did he come from?

>>61927888
you should really do it so the guy who told you to kill yourself goes to jail.

>>61927935
Probably started as someone hating that people like Seiko around here. So instead of just talking about other watches they like they constantly complained about seikofags. Then habitual shitposters hopped on and just do it for the sake of shitposting now. Then comes with that the avatarfagging as archie/tgv.

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>>61927935
There has been at least one shitposter for at least the better part of the summer.
At least in their current iteration, he doesn't seem to shit up the thread on /fa/. I wonder if it is someone upset that the thread is on /g/ because they don't appreciate the technical aspects of watches, or if they are one of the people who think that generals don't belong on 4chan or /g/. There have been people in the Hirohito-approved meta threads voicing strong anti-general opinions, and I wouldn't be surprised if any of them took it on themselves to try and shit up their least-favorite generals. That is just musing. Maybe it is just some disgruntled individual with nothing better to do with their life.

pic not related, my grail.

>>61912653
You could get a new one for around the same price, so unless you're keen on that specific model, I'd look elsewhere. They were selling them on a 300% markup on my honeymoon cruise, but they were pretty nice pieces. Honestly I wouldn't go over 100 on one of those.

>>61928073
ALS movements really are something else in person (saw an 1815 chrono myself).

Just found something out about Konstantin Chaykin, will post in the next thread

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>>61914126
Had this for about 6 years now, it was my first 'proper' watch.

>>61927900
Ok, fine, I'll humor your for a minute: The Swatch Group's entire business model is built on treating the actual manufacturing costs of their watches as a pure cost center to be minimized because they believe that the primary product they are selling are not the physical watches themselves but rather the marketing generated meanings and feelings those totems are imbued with.

One excellent example of this is Omega's adoption of the co-axial escapement on a production basis even though the concept very obviously would not work in volume produced movements not using gold for shock absorption purposes.

Even though the ostensible purpose of the co-axial escapement is to extend service intervals Omega managed to actually reduce service intervals with their implementation, make the movements more sensitive to prompt and regular servicing, make them more likely to sustain significant damage if not serviced promptly, make them much more difficult to service, more expensive to service, and much more prone to being serviced incorrectly while also STILL having to lower the beat rate to make this abortion of an implementation work.

And rather than looking at the data and admitting this experiment did not work, instead their customers continue to get cucked with a movement fundamentally and obviously inferior in reliability to one with a Swiss lever escapement because Omega values their marketing memes over their customers, whom they see and treat as marks to be huckstered.

And if you don't believe me, you can hear it from no less than Al Archer himself:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/philosophically-whats-remaining-point-coaxial-after-everything-experienced-question-786804-7.html#post5873611

https://omegaforums.net/threads/to-co-axial-or-not-to-co-axial-or-is-it-a-case-of-back-to-the-future.27893/


http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/philosophically-whats-remaining-point-coaxial-after-everything-experienced-question-786804-7.html#post5873679

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>>61928164
That's a very sporty piece with a nice traditional design! I would buy one for myself as a gift if sport watches were my cup of tea. Absolutely lovely.

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Picked this slick little automatic up from a Penney's that was going out of business for 45. I know it's not a "name brand", but I love the look of the movement and it goes nicely with a button-down and slacks.

>>61926064

a g r e e d

>"lmfao look at this snobby ass fuckwad"
>he literally parades SKX and bambino all the time
>pretentious

He's a watch guy, idk how these guys have their head up their ass to not realize this.

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In the market for a cheap, minimalist quartz.

Cop or not?

>>61928472
The hands are too small, which is a common problem with cheap quartz movements. The minute hand should at least reach the outer track.

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>>61928289
>this is how tiny the lubrication on the coax wheel is needed
>if it's not done absolutely properly the teeth wear down

Haha, oh wow.

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>>61928289
get cancer seikofag

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>>61928472
>>61928480
Here's another one I had my eye on.

>The minute hand should at least reach the outer track.

Why is that? Just curious

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>>61928549
It's just a sort of aesthetic rule. If the hands are too damn small for the dial it looks like shit. It's also an indicator that the movement is too weak for larger hands. Just look at the top right watch in this pic for example.

>>61928549
anything but tissot

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>>61928529
You're waving the white flag and retreated into pure shitposting already? If you were going to give up that fast you should have just used this picture instead.

>>61928472
How cheap?

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Shitposters and avatarfag are going in strong today huh.

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>>61928609
>wrong pic
Don't worry, i gotchu fampai

>>61927265
You're right. Thought it was the shadow from the box. This clock face interests me in its simplicity. I looked through Timex's current crop and can't find it.

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>>61928688
>>61928688

>>61928688
>>61928688

>>61928660
Found it. "Originals Oversized". I love it.

>>61928709
it's coming in tomorrow and I'm so fucking READY

>>61928370
do those gears actually move?

>>61929275
Probably, but I bet they're just hooked up to the motor from the movement.

>>61926174
what is the context of this picture?

>>61928164
they may be shitters but they're our long time shitters! what's your latest piece?