/wt/ - watch thread

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>>61928688
Don't forget the proper image.

Reminder not to respond to avatarfags and just report them.

I really want a GS the second hand movement is so pleasing to watch.
Spring drive is perfection. The marriage of mechanical and electrical.

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>>61928735
Wish they didn't choose that kinda of finishing style, really doesn't speak to me.

What is a good reliable movement that is cheap to service, cheap to buy, and can take a beating?

I've fucked up many automatic movements, I'm thinking of just going quartz and not worrying about it anymore. Who makes nicely finished every day quartz watches?

Thanks in advance.

>>61929028
I have no personal experience but have heard that Victorinox are built pretty tough and that they test the shit out of their watches.

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Where are my /slavshit/ niggas?

Does anyone know how often jomashop has sales? They have the JLC Master Ultra Thin Moon for $6.5k which is 25% off. I know jomashop is a grey market dealer, but I assume that I'll never get back the $2k price delta buying from an authorized dealer.

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>>61929115
hi

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>>61929125
Wow I'm jelly af. Would trade my two 3133s for that pretty Strela.

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>konstantin chaykin, the "russian" watchmaker

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>>61929115
sorry, i'm not allowed to post this on these threads or else people will get mad

>>61929212
Whahahaha the nose on that moonphase

>>61929212
somebody shoop merchant into that moon phase

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>>61929212
There's Masonic watches made by Raketa too. Really gets the ol' noggin joggin'.

>>61929531
Raketa make no such shit.

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>>61929545
Pobeda, my bad. Still made in the Raketa factory though.

>>61929564
No factory in the Soviet Union made such garbage. Stop buying Ukrainian tourist special watches, idiot. The dials are entirely faked.

>>61929651
thank you

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>>61929651
Nice

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Opinion on Tissot?

>>61929651
nice

>>61929775
Some of their heritage line has been interesting but besides that pretty bland for the prices.

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>>61929775
I'd like them a lot more if they didn't make them so fucking huge.

>>61929775
way too expensive for what they are

>>61929835
>40mm is too big

are you a wristlet or is this the new /wt/ meme? post your wrist, I can't be sure.

>>61929917
>40mm dress watch

>>61929917
I'm fine with 40mm watches, it's the fact that it's just under half an inch thick.

>>61929917
>>61929937
>>61929835

The only problem with that one is the thickness.

>>61930000 (checked)
Both the thickness and diameter are shit. Even for a casual dress watch.

>>61930000
and the gigantic applied logo
the original visodate's logo was half that size

>>61929775
A Tissot can never be allowed to be as good as a Longines. A Longines can never be allowed to be as good as an Omega. So Swatch designers will always have to bend over backwards to make a Tissot as mediocre as possible.

It didn't use to be this way. For a while Tissot an Omega shared a few movements even.

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>>61929115
'Sup

>>61931134
Really dig this Poljot deluxe and its lizard strap. I'm waiting for a blue shark leather strap for >>61929115

>>61929294
Are you a grill?

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soup /wt/, opinions on this beautiful baby

>>61929651
And alah akbar to you my friend I guess

>>61929775
SHITTERS

you are better off buying a rare swatch at that point

>>61931134
where and how much did you pay for the watch?

>>61929651
Nice watch Mr. Soros.

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>>61931587

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It's still doing +/-0sd with the crown up. 2 to 4s variation at other positions.

>>61931739
Yeah but it's unregulated, so the accuracy is all down to luck.

>>61931739
Having a micrometer precise MEMS escapement is pretty good for inherent accuracy.

>>61931912
Isn't the MEMS escape wheel only in the 9S65 & other GS movements?

>>61931940

8L35b is effectively a GS movement.

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>>61931356
Thanks, it is nice. I think this one may be a Luch though not a Poljot.

>>61931471
I got it on eBay for around £14. It had a shitty expanding bracelet on when I got it though.

>>61928812
I have no idea why they put a display caseback on that or their springdrive?

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>>61931956
The 8L is not just effectively a GS movement, it is literally an undecorrated and "unadjusted" (either this isn't actually true of the 8L, or it has truly staggering inherent accuracy) GS movement.

>>61931912
traditional manufacturing produces escape wheels accurately enough where manufacturing inconsistencies between the two do not produce different inherent accuracy in practice.

Many brands have been doing this for a while and i am not certain how i feel about it.
check this article out
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/24/fashion/24iht-acaw2-silicon24.html

>>61932385
>traditional manufacturing produces escape wheels accurately enough where manufacturing inconsistencies between the two do not produce different inherent accuracy in practice.
Evidence? As far as I understand even the best traditional manufacturing processes aren't going to produce parts to micrometer tolerances.

It's been my impression that the micrometer precision of MEMS escapement manufacturing is a significant part of why Grand Seiko's regulated balance escapeemnts can closely mimic the accuracy of free sprung escapements.

>>61932413
what i am saying is that in the real world a Rolex with a normal escape wheel is going to have the same accuracy as a gs. Also the end of the article has a quote form


anyway i mentioned that and linked that article with the intetion of discussing the following

>François-Paul Journe of Montres Journe said that while silicon parts worked well, they could not be repaired, “which means that using silicon in a watch is like producing a throwaway watch. It is similar to throwaway Kodak photo cameras.”

>“Watches are machines prepared to work during decades, and I will not use a material that cannot be repaired,” Mr. Journe said by e-mail.

>But Mr. Gygax of Ulysse Nardin disagreed, saying that in the unlikely event of a failure the parts could be replaced. He said his company had not witnessed any increase in servicing for watches using silicon parts.

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Lets play a game. Curate a Three watch collection for $5000. Post pics and rate/hate/b8.

If I could not find a good price on the Mark ii would get a Mark 4.5 for less.

>>61932315
What exactly does unadjusted mean anyway? Do they regulate the movement and do a quick check but not the full chronometer test that lasts several days?

>>61932454
>what i am saying is that in the real world a Rolex with a normal escape wheel is going to have the same accuracy as a gs.
Rolex uses a free sprung balance which, by design, can compensate for the less precise conventional manufacturing of the escapement and typically has better accuracy than regulated balances in general.

Matching Rolex accuracy with a conventional regulated balance design is facilitated by the micrometer precision of MEMS manufacturing.

As to repairability I will note that it is extremely rare to find a situtation where the escapement would be damaged enough to require repair at all, much less to find a situation where it needed repair but not to have those components replaced ourtight. Plus, with MEMS parts manufacturing it becomes plausible to be able t o manufacture spares on demand forever.

>>61932464
I'm guessing watches I inherited for free would be cheating so:

>Rolex Explorer 114270 - $4000 used
>Seiko SKX007 - $250 with a good bracelet
>Hamilton Intra-matic steel/silver dial 38mm - $600 with a new strap

Why are there no good new dress watch options? The Intra-matic should've come in 36mm and 38mm options, not 38 and 42.

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>>61932464
You should get the Mark 4.5 over the Mark II period.
Also nice three watch choices.

>>61932518
Here's an explanation from a highly regarded watchmaker:

https://www.timekeeperforum.com/forum/threads/adjustment-and-regulation.21105/

>>61932608
What are service costs on those movements as opposed to 861's?

>>61932561

ok a top grade eta 2892-A2 and not a Rolex.. Accuracy is the same the balance is not free sprung


The problem comes down the line. In 100 years will that watch be repairable? it is a good question... maybe a part can be scanned reconstructed in cad and reprinted in the future? who knows.

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>>61932464

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>>61932464

>>61932654
Watches that were manufactured out the ass for decades will still have a donor to cannibalize a hundred years from now. If you want a watch that won't bankrupt your descendants a century from now literally get a 7S26 or an Amphibia.

>>61932854
I didn't say i agreed, i said it was a interesting question.

>>61932654
>ok a top grade eta 2892-A2 and not a Rolex.. Accuracy is the same the balance is not free sprung

I don't think I would agree with this proposition. As far as I know the 2892-A2, while having excellent inherent accuracy for a conventional regulated balance, still woud be expected to have more positional variance than a free sprung 313x. I would expect a Grand Seiko movement to exhibit less positional variance than a 2892-A2, especially in hi-beat form. The micrometer precision helps to create a perfectly inherently poised balance wheel, which helps minimize positonal variance.

Not only that, but for GS hi-beat movements using MEMS for the escapement allowed it to be significant lightened, reducing the wear penalty incurred for the higher beat rate to essentially be eliminated, while still benefitting from the reduced positional variance the higher beat rate brings.

>>61932888
You read about positional variance. But in the real world something like a 2892 does not actually exhibit greater positional variance to any measurable degree. COSC testing is specifically designed to measure accuracy based on positional and temperature variations.

>>61929155
That one on the right is awesome, what's it called?

>>61932959
COSC standards are -4 to +6 and the 2892 can routinely meet this standard while still consistently exhibiting more positional variance than the 313x

The advantages of a free sprung baalnce are why Rolex was able to move to a +/- 2 SPD accuracy standard on the 32xx.

Incidentally, I happen to own a Rolex with the 3135 movement and a Seiko with the 5256 movement (a close analogue for a 2892-A2 top grade), and even though both display similar worn accuracy, when you put them on a timegrapher the 3135 clearly has far less possitional variance (it's actually between +2 SPD and -2 SPD in all 6 positions).

>>61933061

I have put multiple 2892 and 3135s on a time grapher and have not noted significant positional variance that you describe. The 5256 is not comparable to a 2892 and has not even been produced in who knows how many years.

>>61933061
ignore my last comment i now know who i am speaking to and would prefer you keep your autistic rambling to yourself.. whatever you say is correct.

>>61933208
So your position is that a free sprung balance offers zero positional variance advantages over a traditional regulated balance? That would be a fairly...unorthodox position to take, and would certainly run counter to a logical analysis how a free sprung balance works compared to a traditional regulated balance, and run counter to the prevailing consensus opinion on the subject.

Also please do explain in what technical way a 5256 would not be comparable to a 2892-A2? The 5256 was regulated to COSC standards in period, and my particular example was serviced this year by an excellent watchmaker and shows 280+ amplitude dial up, up to 310 on the wrist, so I see no reason its timing performance should be any worse for being made in 1975 vs 1995.

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>>61929115
>>61929125
>>61929294
>>61931134
Currently waiting for my slavwatch to arrive, will post pics as soons as I get it.

>>61933303
No a free sprung balance wheel can offer some advantages. the original conversation which you always stray from was about how a mems made escapement does not offer a huge advantage over a traditionally manufactured one. A well executed movement like a 2892 wit no free sprung balance wheel and non mems escapement does not differ significantly in accuracy (in terms of positional varience or otherwise) to watches with those features. The seiko 5256 we all know is a movement you really like because it is made by seiko but most people do not consider it to be at the same level as the eta movement. The anti shock system, manufacturing process, and basic design are not considered as good. To be fair to you the seiko movement is probably technically as good and those previously mentioned factors don't really play much of a roll in day to day accuracy but like you mentioned it does display in inferior resistance to positional variance.

>>61933461
>he original conversation which you always stray from was about how a mems made escapement does not offer a huge advantage over a traditionally manufactured one. A well executed movement like a 2892 wit no free sprung balance wheel and non mems escapement does not differ significantly in accuracy (in terms of positional varience or otherwise) to watches with those features.

The conversation had to stray because if you don't believe the consensus technical opinion that free sprung balances exhibit less positional variation than conventional regulated balances, then you will inherently ignore the advantages that MEMS brings to traditional regulated balances in terms of positional variance.

At any rate, I hope you can at least concede that MEMS escapements can be made significantly lighter than what is achievable by traditional manufacturing methods, reducing the torque that has to be exerted on the drive train which improves movement wear and power reserve.

MEMS silicon escapement components also have inherent magnetic resistance and are far less sensitive to lubrication than traditionally manufactured escapements.

As for the question of whether free sprung balances have inherent positional variance advantages, I don't have time at the moment to gather all the relevant evidence but I will do so when I do have time, as I believe the evidence is pretty strong in favor of that proposition.

I'm just going to set aside any discussion of the 5256 vs the 2892-A2 as its not especially germane to the discussion at present. If you want to have that argument another time, I'd be happy to take it up then.

>>61933699
they do have an advantage i was proving the initial point by using an example of a very well executed movement lacking a free sprung balance. Mems also offers advantages over traditional manufacture. When Design can improve to take full advantage of advanced manufacturing and it is used for more parts in the movement it will hopefully provide very significant advantages over all traditionally manufactured movements.

>>61933354
Nice Grand Seiko.

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Are these nato straps PURE CLASS or nah?

>>61934285
Honestly, the weekender doesn't look that bad. Would match great with a Hawaiian shirt.

>>61934285
I also dig the Timex. Supposedly I have a couple packages at the post office, so I may post some classy natos later.

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Do you guys wear loose or tight? I like to have a little give in my bracelets, even though it seems very "rapper"

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>>61929115

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>>61929115
>implying the watch is not better worn without the (((movement)))

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>>61928688
Out of Seiko, Citizen, Casio, Timex, Tissot and Stuhrling, which one is the most haute horologie?

>>61935512
Casio

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have an offer to buy one of these new from an Omega boutique, what do you guys think?

I was going to say, "Should I just get F-91W" but really what classic Casio can I buy without getting into some gov't watchlist?

>>61935532
If you buy that call the Doc Brown and have him pick you up when you walk out the door and drop you off in an early 20th century sanatorium so you can be lobotomized.

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>>61929115
I've got a 710 on the way. Shitter gang represent.

>>61929028
G-Shock is always the answer.

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>>61934285

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>>61929775
>ck is in swatch group
>put near tissot and hamilton

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>>61936181
More floral straps.

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Just found this on the floor, can't find any information on it online except that it's Japanese. Is it worth saving?

>>61936653
10/10 photo.

>>61936653
No that image is trash and should be deleted.

>>61935779
I had a CA53W with a blue and gray NATO strap. My ex-gf wanted it so I gave it to her while we were still together. I really miss that watch.
>>61936802
>>61936827
Sorry, I'm on a shaky vehicle and posting on
>mobile

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>>61936181

>>61937134
is the sub the quintessential rolex?

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>>61929115
>>61929125
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>>61929294
>>61929531
>>61929564
>>61931134
>>61932197
>>61933354

I'm legit thinking of buying a civilian soviet timepiece.
Got any recommendations what to get and what to avoid?

>>61937390
go cheap and find a good condition pobeda from the 60s

raketa is cool too

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>>61937345
Forget rolex, there are better price-to-performance alternatives out there, no disrespect to rolex, just my honest opinion.

>>61929775
Never buy anything from swatch

>>61937492
Why pobeda or raketa though?
I've heard they were not the best ones.

>>61937570
Eh, Glashutte Original makes some nice watches. I would definitely buy one if I had the cash.

>>61928688
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Watch-RAKETA-SOVIET-USSR-RUSSIA-/302413537435
Cop or not?

>>61938062
>Ukraine
Enjoy your parts donor watch.

>>61938114
Thanks man, just what i was looking for.

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>>61937503

>that fucking reflection

>>61932561
>Rolex uses a free sprung balance which, by design, can compensate for the less precise conventional manufacturing of the escapement
This is wrong, its actually opposite; an escapement with free sprung balance requires much higher tolerances for it to even be effective than compass regulated escapments. (With free sprung you can only change timing by moving weights, whereas with regulated you can shorten the lenght of the spring, thus allowing to compensate for lots of more error. Hence you dont see free sprung on cheap, mass produced movements. The downside of regulated escapements is that the pins that allow the hairspring to be shortened get in the way and cause more positional variance, with good practice these negative effects can be Almost entitely negated however.

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what's do you lads think of Sinn?

>>61938964
I like them. Really like the 903.

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>>61938964
Them and damasko are autistic german engineering, which is great. Now if only they had more models that actually aesthetically appealed to me.

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>>61937579
If I'm correct, it goes something like this:
Pobeda < Raketa < Vostok < Poljot

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rate my new rubberb /wt/

btw im a girl :)

>>61939212
stock image/10

>>61938715
My assumption is that the timing screws (weights) on a free sprung balance would allow you to compensate for the balance wheel not being perfectly poised and/or the hairspring not being perfectly circular in its expansion and contractions.

Conversely, I assumed that the regulated balance would tend to magnify any lack of poise on the balance wheel or uneven expansion/contraction of the hairspring due to effects of the regulator pins and stud carrier on the expansion and contraction of the hairspring. I've alwasy figured that the micrometer precision of GS' MEMS escapements was a big factor in their renknowned accuracy for a regulated balance, in addition to the benefits of the higher beat rate on their hi-beat movements.

>>61938964
ugly as sinn

>>61938964
only quartz i would ever buy would be a sinn if i had literally every other watch i ever wanted.

>>61929115
Soon(tm). Got a civilian Vostok, but I'm waiting for a strap for it and a Pobeda to arrive in the mail.
Hopefully at least one of them arrives tomorrow.

>>61935779
But really, is there anything more classic for electronic watches? Maybe there is something a bit sturdier or more water proof without crossing into "g-shock" abominations?

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>>61940792

Wouldn't this thread be better on /fa/
It's not like anyone here discusses anything beyond the looks or what's on the spec sheet

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>>61940792

>>61940936
> 20 posts about regulated vs free sprung balances

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>>61940792
>>61940941

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>>61940941

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>>61940980
We posting actually good quartz watches?

>>61940941
>>61940980
>>61940990


i posted this >>61940910
but that omega is pretty fucking nice too.. still would rather buy every watch I want first.. no reasoning behind it im just a mechfag

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>>61934709
i kinda like a loose fitting sometimes too, snug is too boring.

>>61941711
I like it loose enough to slide up and down my arm but not loose enough to flip over like that.

>>61941879
i maybe wrong but i think some people purposely wear their watches like that facing inwards.

>>61941007
It doesn't matter what case you put it in, anything quartz is disgusting.

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>>61942058
Wrong.

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>>61942058

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>>61941007
GOAT LCD quartz coming through.

>>61942231
>not finishing the battery and coil
disgusting

>>61941937
Some do, but they don't wear them loose because that would defeat the purpose of being able to check it from that side as it could flip around again.

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>>61942273

>>61940910
Submarine steel
oil filled
1200 bar

holy fuk

>>61942277
ok i think the Reagan pic was to show someone famous wearing their watch loose regardless of the direction of the watch. Was the only image reference i could think of.

>>61942058
anything quartz is disgusting.

did you graduate from retard school or what you kek.

>>61934709
Having your watch where it's just tight enough where it doesn't move when you raise or lower your hand, but where you can still shift it around is the god tier way to wear your watch.

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>>61942262
>Not the 757
It's a shame that both James Bond and Big Boss wannabes have driven the prices on them sky high (for an LCD quartz watch).

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>>61931739

>paid $4000 for a reproduction
>could have bought the real thing for like $1500 on ebay

>>61942674
You mean $3k for one that's scratched up and has lots of patina?

www.ebay.ca/itm/232429408334

>>61942728
Here's one in pretty good condition, only a few scratches on the caseback and the indices aren't nearly as corroded. Yours now for only 600k yen + shipping & proxy fees.

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u154511879

>>61942774
Yea but can I swim with it?

>>61942805
Who knows, better get the thing pressure tested first.

Here's a brand new SLA017 for a little over 2/3rds the price of that though.

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e236672207

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>>61932661

This is literally the most perfect picture to describe seiko cucks. The GS and SARB are so similar looking its mind blowing. One is $5000 the other $300.

>>61942833
you're paying for the hands+dial basically

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>>61942833
The case/dial/hands/bracelet finishing and movement are in a totally different league, though of course you know that and are just shitposting.

>>61942833
Your right you totally aren't paying for the spring drive movement that gives +/- 1s a month realistically.
And you are right the finishing on a SARB and GS are identical.
And you totally don't pay more for twice the power reserve.
And 100% for sure are not paying for the nice smooth second hand movement.
It is a dumpster tier $300 watch for $5000.

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>>61942656
>No solar charging
>No electroluminescent backlight
>No radio atomic sync
Nah

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>>61943025

>Paying $5000 for a seiko

>>61943192
The spring drive is the perfect movement imo. I would pay $5k for that. The finishing is beautiful too. I would personally go for one of the 8 day reserve ones.

>>61942996
>someone says they don't want o pay 4700 extra dollars for a better finished but uglier dial

>shitposting

>>61943025
>>61943230

You realize that no matter how much metal they put in that thing its really a quartz watch in the end.

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>>61942262
>>61942656
>>61943069
btfo

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I like the big spring in watches that seems to beat like a heart

t. not interested in watches otherwise

>>61943263
It's a quartz referenced watch yes. To say the spring drive is a quartz movement is legitimately retarded.

>>61943315
A quartz watch is a quartz regulated watch.. it is not mechanically regulated.. it is not a mechanical watch it is a quartz watch.. i dont give a fuck if you put a transformer in the case ... its a fucking quartz shitter you fucking nip loving cuck.

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>>61943315
>>61943332
To be honest, quartz is superior to mechanical. There is a reason why the revolution happened and there is a reason the majority of people wear quartz. To add to that, every single military issue piece is quartz currently.

>>61943373
Most people are issued nothing and many people do still buy mechanical as long as they are not actual combat operators.

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>>61943373

>>61943373
http://www.bottomtimer.com/2016/05/the-last-great-issued-divers-watch.html

>>61943332
It's not a quartz watch. It's it's own new thing. The movement is main spring powered, there is no battery or capacitor, it self winds. It literally doesn't meet the criteria for a quartz watch, quartz referenced mechanical watch is about as accurate of a description as you can get.

Why are our threads so shit and full of idiot faggots like this? >>61943332

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>>61943443

>>61943458
Your right that is identical to the spring drive how could I be so wrong!!!

>>61943458
>Google "luch 3055 quartz"
>every result calls it a "quartz stabilised watch" or "electronic-mechanical watch"
>literally no one calls it a quartz watch
What's your point lad?

>when normies complement your joke NATO

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>>61943458
That's a interesting looking movement.

>>61943373
Meming aside, quartz watches are generally issued because it's easier and cheaper to just chuck the whole watch and buy a new one once the battery dies or the crystal cracks.

Tristano avatarfag is getting annoying lately, is this place turning to a meme avatarfaging chamber now?

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>>61943537
This is correct. They used this philosophy with their later mechanical watches too. Pic related is a "disposable" Vietnam era watch I'm looking at.

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>>61943574
Here is the back. Anyone have any experience with military watches like this?

>>61943555
It's just a boring rehash of "le tip my fedora to you" meme.

>>61939381
Poising a balance and centering the hairspring is something thats done on Almost all mass produced regulated movements.
I think the main reason that the gs regulated movements are so good is because the parts are already to a high standard, good enough to facilitate free sprung, but they choose regulated for ease of regulation.

>>61943390

https://soflete.com/blogs/knowledge/forget-diamonds-why-you-want-a-months-salary-on-your-wrist?page=2

>>61943574
I think they were made under contract by a couple of American watchmakers such as Hamilton and Benrus. Don't know much about the movement itself, but people still wear them so they're obviously serviceable.

>61944086
>Miyota and ETA movements are the gold standard in autos.

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Is Robi the hero we need /wt/?

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$11, please mr.TGV meme appraise my buy.

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>>61945748
Impeccable. It exudes class and sophistication; commanding respect from the highest level of watch connoisseurs.

>>61941711
i too, enjoy my forearm hairs being ripped out 24/7

>>61942833
>how something looks determines the price

either you're trolling or you've never held a quality product, i could use your same argument but instead talking about shitter chinese dress watches

>>61943242
>someone thinks visual appeal is the only determining factor in a watch's value.

>>61946062
No one said it was, but if it looks like shit, then why bother?

>>61946041
fuck dude grow a pair, as if it's a big deal when that happens.

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Meanwhile at Rado.
>ETA version of the Powermatic 80
>hardened, scratch resistant titanium case
>46x46mm, not for the bitch-wristed

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>>61946183
>46x46mm, not for the bitch-wristed
And you faggots blame the chinks for the big watches trend

>>61946253
>rattle rattle
Whatever you say Skellington-kun.

>>61946183
Eh. 46mm length means even a 6.5" wrist can probably pull it off.

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Today's job: assemble the movement of this fucker, a BFG 866 pin pallet shitter.

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And this is what it will look like assembled, only the one I'm working on is completely jeweled and shock protected.

Also I have no idea yet how to oil pin levers.

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>>61946183
Speaking of I really like the new Captain Cook.

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>>61945939
zank q mr TGV, I've replaced the straps with an old swatch stretchy band that's been lying around for years. what ye thinks?

>>61946668
I like this

>>61942442
Quartz is just a glorified circuit board and battery. That isn't watch making, it's a pale imitation.

>>61943281
>E-ink
That's why I specified GOAT LCD quartz.

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>>61942058
>>61942442
>>61946997
>I'm literally a 14 year old redditor
Okay, you three can leave now.

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>>61946997

>>61947492
>literally more complex than your 7000 series-derivative Seiko shitter
A pale imitation of watchmaking indeed.

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can anyone id this brand? and thoughts on it? other than the typical 'its a shitter' reply.

>>61947571
But it is a shitter, anon.

>>61947571
>other than the typical 'its a shitter' reply.
Alright, I'll lie that it's an acceptable watch for you.

>>61947582
your a real genius you are. but yeah chink shitter or what? any idea?

>>61947588
gee whiz you think so?

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Kek of the day

>>61947732
damn.

>>61947732
ahahahahahahhah

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>>61947732
what the fuck did that fucker do?

>>61947870
my guess they broke the winding stem somehow.

>>61947880
depending on how its cased though it should not allow the movement to rotoate like that anyway..

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>>61946997

>>61947571
Well it's a sapphire crystal shitter at least

>>61947732
Holy shit, that's clearly a broken stem and not broken dial feet. Either way how the fuck?

I also kinda find it plausible that it might be a manufacture fuck-up. I mean I size bracelets all day and I have no idea how to do this, even if you whack the watch by the crown hard against the workbench it shouldn't just snap.

>>61947889
Most times a movement can rotate freely in the case without the crown, since the stem lining up perfectly in the crown tube, and the crown fitting perfectly on it is more important than the movement being exactly at 0° in the case. Plastic spacers are used to mitigate the play of the movement in the case.

>>61947732
>he couldn't resize the bracelet himself
Hate to say it but the fucker deserved it if the watch guy was the cause.

>>61947732
why didn't he just have it resized during purchase or at least bring it back to the seller? wtf

>>61948026
Because people are literally dumb and run off with the watch the moment they pay, not thinking that not every steel bracelet watch is immediately perfect for them. Also stores are dumb too for not having a batterynigger and the typical seller in a jewery/watch store is also too dumb to be trusted with a simple bracelet resize.

But it's more likely an Internet-bought. Fuck paying MSPR.

>>61947950
yeah it just depends on the case and spacer ring. If it is integrated into the case and the casing screws/clamps clamp down on a fixed ring it wouldn't not allow movement. If it is just a simple spacer ring that can rotate in the case then it would allow the movement to spin around like this. I have no idea how the fuck this guy broke the winding stem.

>>61947922
retail price was under $60 and its a quartz, never heard of the brand ever. just liked the datejust look of it.

>>61948152
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Polished-Parnis-36mm-silver-dial-sapphire-glass-Miyota-Automatic-date-watch-P02-/252882708826?

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>>61948359
that looks really good, thanks! I'm targeting this though cos i spotted it locally but i'll look into the Parnis too.

>>61948570
The seiko would be a nice choice. Expect shitty bracelet etc. with that other chink watch.

>>61948773
The Parnis bracelet has solid endlinks and is actually far better.. it has no date which looks nicer and a better movement. That is why it is more expensive than the seiko

>>61948773
ya the Sezen just felt too light, I'm most likely going to get the Seiko as it's available.

>>61948855
will put it on my wish list

are there any no brainer watches for people who just need a "cheap" watch to check the time without having to pull out your phone that won't attract too much attention?

I have the casio f-91w and its comfy but I feel like a little kid with it

>>61942262
>>61942656
>>61943069
>>61943281
What are these Seiko Demons?

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>>61949688
They're shitters anon.

>>61947732
Love the rotatable dial. That should be a feature of every watch.

>>61949603
Seiko 5 if you want mechanical.
Citizen or Timex for quartz midi-shitters.
A digital watch is literally below any other tier so avoid at all costs unless you are in active military duty.

>>61947732
This is really practical when driving, the dial is always level, even with your hand still on the wheel. Smart guy really.

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>>61950062
>A digital watch is literally below any other tier

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>>61949980

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>>61928688
>tfw no Sturmanskie wall clock

http://www.stefanv.com/watches/a-riff-on-a-russian-navigators-watch.html>>61929115

>>61933054
Poljot Kirova 3133 chronograph, mine is on sale in case you are interested. Only shipping to Europe though.

>>61950109
I wouldn't call that a digital watch but I catch your drift (no homo).

>>61949688
Mine is the now discontinued Seiko SBPG001. It's the only LCD quartz watch ever made to have all of the following features on the same watch:
- stainless steel case
- stainless steel bracelet (with solid links and solid end links)
- solar charging
- radio atomic sync
- electroluminescent backlight
Good luck finding one though. Only place you'll find them now is occasionally on Yahoo! Japan Auctions using a proxy bidding service.

>>61950285
It displays digits. It's a digital watch.

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>>61946491
>oiling pin levers
You apply low beat escapement oil (moebius 914) to pic related, purple dot, (idk what its called in english, resting surface of entry pin?) every 3 to 5 teeth.

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>>61950673
You!

Does the whole "meticulous oiling" meme from the old co-axials also apply to the new co-axials that were designed from the ground up?

Pic related, a tiny droplet-let of oil applied to an old ETA-based Omega 2500 co-axial.

>>61950673
Okay, will do. BFG-s are fucking weird. I know the story on why they stuck to pin-pallet escapements, but still, they're quite unusual.

I think they even had a pin-pallet chronograph.

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>>61950753
I do not know, but I do know someone who does, I will ask tommorow.

>>61950776
I think there pretty neat, like breguet's Ruby cilinders.

I froze a PO the other day btw.

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Should I keep this on the bracelet.....

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....or should I fall for the meme?

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>>61951088
>>61951077

Bracelet for sure

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>>61951088
You have fallen for nothing yet.
I think that would look better on leather or perlon. Of those two just go with whatever is comfier.

>>61950978
>I do not know, but I do know someone who does, I will ask tommorow.
Thanks bru.

I always have the watch threads open, so I'll be right here.

Seiko SKX007 or the "Turtle".
Is it worth the 100 dollars more, I can get the SKX for 200, the turtle for about 300.
>vote NOW
>help me DECIDE

>>61951464
Personally I hate cushion cases.

>>61951464
I do prefer the more sleek look on the 007, but some say the technical improvements of the turtle are worth the money. Idk man I just want to get a good watch for a "first-time-watch-buyer" like me and not spend over 300 bucks if possible.

>>61951552
I'd say get a quartz watch for your first watch, or maybe a very cheap automatic, because you probably will beat it to hell.

>>61951577
I do have a quartz one but it was a gift and I wanted to buy a watch for myself once. I tried learning being more careful with it

>>61951607
I'd look at the SNE437 as another option. It's a very reliable solar movement and it has styling similar to the skx007 and the sumo.

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Most square Gshocks have delayed illumination, right? -
Press the light button and it stays illuminated for a couple of seconds

Is Auto EL worth it - does it depend on whether it's a solar model?

>>61951464
>Is it worth the 100 dollars more, I can get the SKX for 200, the turtle for about 300.

SKX all day no question, looks better

You could have 4 Rolexes and still enjoy an SKX as a beater

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Finally found a watch that is to my liking and that meets everything that shows who I am as well, since that's what some faggot on /fa/ with a TGV avatar said to go for. Horology and stuff too since it'a s seiko

>seiko + the fact it's called a shogun to show my appreciation for weeaboo land
>titanium and light
>as rugged as me
>submariner-esque look without being a direct 1:1 copy

amazing watch guys, what do you think?

>>61951633
ive lurked long enough to know that /wt/ despises anything that´s not an automatic watch (or atleast hand wound). Well maybe g shock or casio are acceptable.. I really would like to get an automatic.

>>61951684
thanks! I was leaning more towards the SKX, just needed a little "push"

>>61951822
looks gorgeus, honestly. I´d go for it too if I were willing to spend the money

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>>61951822
>that hour hand

>>61946055

I have an explorer ii, tell me more about how I am a bitter poorfag or something

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>>61951919
>hahah i have a gazillion bananas in my bank account listen to these peasants try to tell me a refined gentleman what good taste is

>>61951919
Ah, so you are just delusional.

>>61935080
>>>/fa/

>>61951822

How much did you pay for it? Is it 44mm and does it wear like it?

I could see maybe paying like $500 for it, but the list price is grotesque.

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>>61951957

>refined gentlemen

>>61952119
Not him, but they seem to go from 500-700 used.

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>>61950127
>Luxury swiss watches
Not even once bro
Fucking disgusting

>>61951822
They are called wristwatches and not handwatches for a reason.

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>>61937390
I would answer if you didn't avatarfag.

>>61952796
I'm legit thinking of buying a civilian soviet timepiece.
Got any recommendations what to get and what to avoid?

>>61952851
Nice try.

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>>61951822
>since that's what some faggot on /fa/ with a TGV avatar said to go for
tfw i probably made this guy spend money

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>>61951919
NO WAY A REAL EXP II, HOPLKY SHIT GUYS

the best part is, you probably don't, and you still think that saying you have one somehow validates your absolutely retarded and mentally deficient opinion

>>61952796
I'm legit thinking of buying a civilian soviet timepiece.
Got any recommendations what to get and what to avoid?

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>>61953006
Not you, me.

>>61951822
All i have to say you did well anon, welcome to the family.

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What does /wt/ think of the Timex Yacht Racer?

>>61953443
Timex intelligent quartz?
One of the best quartz watches you can get, not even memeing you.

>>61953555

Nice trips.

Cool, I wanted to make sure they're not total crap before I order one.

>>61953555
trips of deception

>>61953584

wat

>mineral glass
Why would they do this ? Even the chinks shit come with sapphire glass.

>>61953584
Single of bullshit.
Name a better quartz movement in the same price range u fag

What about digital? What is the nicest digital?

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>>61940910
later this year i hope to go for the U2 SDR on bracelet. motherfucker's bomb proof

>>61950181
damn that's badass

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What is a good watch for plowing through people in a rented car in Barcelona?

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>>61954065

>>61954065
>I-Islam is a religion of p-peace!
>l-look at all the n-nazis!

What about a 2 dollar IKEA clock strapped to a block of dynamite in case people survive the impact. Would be cheap so the sandniggers can afford it and they're stupid enough to believe that it works

>>61954065
>watch on the right hand
fucking heretical

NEW THREAD
>>61954269
>>61954269
>>61954269
NEW THREAD

>>61953825
shit band

>>61954221
It's a reflection...

>>61954221

Miscellaneous Left-Handers

Ramses II (?), Egyptian pharaoh
Tiberius (?), Roman emperor
Alexander the Great
Charlemagne, Holy Roman emperor
Julius Caesar, Roman general
Napoléon Bonaparte, French emperor
King Louis XVI of France
Queen Victoria of England
King George II of England
King George VI of England
Prince Charles of England
Prince William of England
Henry Ford, automobile manufacturer
David Rockefeller, banker
Edwin Buzz Aldrin, astronaut

http://www.indiana.edu/~primate/left.html

We southpaws are patrician-tier, normie pleb.

>>61954622

>needs to dig this deep to defend his mutation

>>61954367
t, retard

>>61954622
miscellaneous right hangers

Most successful people

>>61932464
116000 blue explorer dial - $3500 preowned
White dial GS quartz - ~$1400 + custom vietnamese croc or Camille Fournet strap
both preowned
DW5600 - $45

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How do you guys wear your watches while wearing long sleeved shirts? do you pull the sleeve up to show the watch or do you let the cuff cover it?

>>61956049
>>>/fa/

depends on the sleeve, you're talking about shirts but now you're showing a picture of a suit

>>61951822

>be me
>want to get a shogun but a wristlet
>posted myself with a turtle and get called wristlet
>make this post with shogun and an obscenely small wrist, not 1 wristlet response

Yeah looks like I'm pulling the trigger on this, I see shoguns show up frequently for $650-750 on the used market

>>61950196
I am, but I live in amerifat land.

>>61947492
But that's ugly as fuck and just some basic wiring.

I have a watch that doesn't fit me anymore. I have the extra links, but I don't have the tools to get it fixed. If I take it to the same store, but different location, would they adjust it for me for free? I bought this watch over a year ago and I don't have the receipt.

>>61957623
Just give the store a call and ask.

>>61957623
Even if it's not free most places only charge a few bucks to add new links.

>>61956380

He's wearing it on his hand. The lugs would clearly hang over his wrists.