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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>Headphone purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.

If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

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>>61846220
chong
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>>61846269
Please no bully
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>>61846055
Dumb anime poster
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>>61846495
Sweat and a bit of cute
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What are some nice sub-$100 full sized headphones?
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>>61846682
Teac TH02/CT02 with HM5 Pads
Superlux 668B/669/662EVO
Samson SR850/950
SHP9500
CB-1
XPT100/HM5
558
M40X
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>>61846709
Thanks
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>>61846452
Anime website
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>>61846715
Forgot to add CAL
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>>61846944
>CAL
From Creative? Thanks, anon. Will look into them
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>>61846958
And Takstar Pro82
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>>61847131
Thanks
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:))
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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?
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The Fostex TH-X00 is one of the headphones I most wish to hear in person and own but I just can't spend $400 on headphones. I want to but am poor fag and it would mean ramen for months.
What other, less expensive, headphones do you think might have a similar kind of sound? Well maybe similar isn't the right word. I listen to trance music that has vocals. So while I do not want niggerbass I want very well done bass on a closed headphone so the th-x00 or the aether are the dream headphone but yeah too expensive.
After doing some research I've become interested in these specific kinds of headphones and I would love some of your opinions here as I'm a noob.
Ultrasone closed back models, so HFI-780, Pro 750, etc.
Sennheiser HD 6 7 and 8 DJ headphones
Pretty much all ~$200 armature IEMs

Do I need to just suck some dick and get the th-x00? They're so fucking nice
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Koss BT540i vs Sennheiser HD 4.40BT vs Pioneer MS7BT

Anyone has heared/worn any of these? Anyone can recommend any of these?
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>>61848058
I don't know how you do it, I've tried to listen to "idol trash" because it's so prevalent here and I tend to enjoy most things that 4chan likes but it's beyond me. I even watch anime sometimes, like I watched cross ange a few years ago. I'm not weeb enough I guess? Whatever most people would hate my music.
This is my current set up. I'll be expanding it soon. Maybe speakers or hd600.
>his computer doesn't have 4 dacs
>on board(is good surprisingly??)
>fx audio dac-x6(10/10 buy one)
>samson go mic(has a clean dac in it)
>dragon fly black(avoid unless only using with iem)

headphones are Dt990, hyperx cloud/pro 80, Sony XBA-H1. I leave the dt990 plugged into the x6, Sony iem into my dragonfly, and hyperx into my on-board and switch in software.
Excuse the mess I moved everything to take a pic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtKXGbsA94E
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>>61849647
Idol trash is acquired taste, and not necessarily something we're proud of even if we like it.

Still... damnit, so adorable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpr2HTf3djM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dix-lB_muio
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>>61849647
Watch Love Live!, that will get you hook into idol trash.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/15051/Love_Live_School_Idol_Project?q=love%20live%20

Listen to:
https://my.mixtape.moe/otzzzu.mp3
https://my.mixtape.moe/hbhbit.mp3
https://my.mixtape.moe/dohlfx.mp3
https://my.mixtape.moe/olduru.mp3
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>>61849656
The video quality is so bad in comparison to how orgasmic those headphones look

needs to be remade
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I've owned a pair of HD600s for 17 years and I agree with everything plebspotters says about them. They are still decent headphones but the bass and subbass are weak AF.
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>>61849697
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dix-lB_muio
I enjoyed this one. I was thinking wow all these nips sure are cute and then I see the waifus up on the screen and remember why I don't fuck with 3dpd anymore.
>>61849722
Okay. Haven't played any vidya in two months so I definitely have the time to. I'll see if I can find some high quality blu-ray rips or something on pantsu.

How do their high pitched voices sound on the HD600? They're really nice on the dt990, it almost feels like you're in the audience because the vocals always seem to be "in front" of the instrumentals on these headphones.
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>>61849722
Idol trash here.
Yes, I thought I'd never get into idols, that it was silly AF, until I seen Love Live.
It's quite the gateway drug.
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>>61849656
Pure fucking autism...
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>>61849784
HD600 is the best thing ever at female voices. It's pretty much made for idol trash, even if not so officially.

>>first season
https://nyaa.si/view/486767
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>>61849621
shameless self-bump
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Why are there akg models that aren't listed on the official site? k550, k545 etc.
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I bought some Beyerdynamic DT990
did i do a good buy?
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>>61849827
Really? I would do anything to be able to listen to all of these headphones I am always reading about. I listen to music exclusively for female vocals that send a shiver down my spine. I can just totally lose myself in some trance tracks with luscious feminine vocals(even if they are autotuned). They sound wonderful on my dt990. An example is this song, it is a good representation of all the music I listen to. Listen to the whole thing if you can, I did with the idol music, and if you could tell me how it is on the hd600 I would be very grateful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAo69SJwFk
I have 90gb of lossless tracks all similar to that one.

Pic related is the playlist I've been working on. I downloaded 25gb of new flacs and I've been listening to all of it and making the playlist from them.
There is a headphone store in Manhattan(2 hour $30 bus ride from me and that bus station is only a 10 minute walk from me) that I might go to in the fall to buy my new headphones. I'm hoping that if I buy a $300 pair like the hd600 they'll let me listen to all of the ones I want to. It's something I've been wanting to do for almost a decade. I'm going to call first and see if they'll indulge me.
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>>61850219
I hope you find what you're looking for anon, a good set of cans can be really magical if you find the right music
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>>61850110
I bought my first set with a topping tp30 mk2 in late 2013, sold them in 2015, and then bought another set this January. I absolutely love them but it is imperative that you have an amp that can do at least 25mw into 250ohm(Dac x6, Origien+, magni 2, etc). When I run them off my dragonfly(can't do 25mw250o) the treble goes through the roof to my ears and I believe it's because they're not getting enough power. They seem to be just barely loud enough but they sound all wrong, so it's tempting to think oh they're shit. Once they're on my fx audio dac x6(ideal for them) they sound lovely.
On the amazon dt900 page the most popular amp/dac is the fiio e10k and when I did the math it can't do 25mw into 250ohm which I believe lends to their negative reputation as unbearable treble cannons. For the price they're great.
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>>61850260
they sound lovely, im looking forward to i get them, not a fan of my sennheiser "gaming" headsett
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dead general

Opinions on ath-r70x?
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>>61850693
I demoed them at long & mcquade, and really liked them. Balanced sounding and comfortable, but far, far outside my price range.
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Just got the ATH-M40x and I like them as much as I hate them.

They sound neutral in a good way but the soundstage is just horrible.
Sometimes the vocals will overwhelm the mix to the point where I just want the singer to shut-up.
Things like progressive/power/folk rock/metal have no separation, it's like all instruments are fighting to be "the one" inside my head.

The base is beautiful compared to my older open cans, detailed and deep while still neutral enough.
They sound good for jpop and I enjoy the privacy, I can crank up my hentai and the neighbors won't call the cops so that's nice too.

It's my first completely sealed closed-back headphones, and not hearing myself talking on my mic feels weird, it's like I'm underwater.
A decent open-back is probably the way to go for me, should I get the HD 598 SR for only 20$ more? Wish I could keep both but I need to choose.
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>>61850219
Idol trash here.
Strong bass is built into the song and it's fairly stronger than I'd like with the HD600 (no EQ), showing the literally no bass troll has just too much melanin. Simple repetitive patterns. Excessively synth. It's giving me a headache already at around 2 minutes.
Past 2m, there's voices. They sound nice and clear, except for the fact they're heavily edited, which isn't my thing. This is one of the reasons I prefer Love Live songs over iM@S, the sound engineer's hand is respectful of voices and doesn't touch them too much.
I like it more at ~4:30, because most repetitive synth patterns go away for a while. The "instrumental" (all synth, actually) shit that follows is tolerable. Nothing else remarkable, the song ends quite uneventfully.
Overall the HD600 does a good job as always (they're good at everything, but excel at midrange/female vocals); They sound good, even if this is not my thing. It's not like I hate electronic music, it's just I have different preferences for it. Video related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MjNsNW8DvM
Which sounds... fucking awesome. Amiga rules forever.
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>>61850876
If you can't just grab the HD600, then look into HD579, they're a huge improvement over the HD598se and very competitively priced.
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>>61851502
Prices are weird here:

ATH-M40x ..... CDN$ 149.00 
HD 598 SR .... CDN$ 164.91
HD 579 ....... CDN$ 269.95


I'd rather stay under 200$, is the improvement worth that much?
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>>61851783
>105 Canadian Dollar equals
>70.05 Euro
I'd pay the 70€. That's like 4x pizza or just a visit to the supermarket. In contrast, you'll likely still be enjoying the headphones 10 years from now.
Ensure you do dig for better prices though. It should be possible to do or maybe import.
For some reference, a friend bought a pair (physically, akiba shop) here: http://www.yodobashi.com/product/100000001003294639/
That translates to 256.010 CAD, which isn't too far from what you're seeing.
>worth it
I believe so going by FR and by the few available reviews of it and the HD599, the HD599 is considered a clear improvement over 598, and reviewers all seem to agree the HD579 is even better, despite the much lower price. As the world catches up with that fact, I expect the prices of HD599 and HD579 to swap accordingly.
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>>61851783
https://headphonebar.com/products/sennheiser-hd579
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wAlISpR8nc
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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600??
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>>61850110
No. They'd be terrible headphones for the price if they were sold for $10.
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>>61851873
If I weren't between jobs I would agree, but I'm not in an "investment" situation right now, maybe I'll wait and step-up to an HD6x0+amp later.
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>>61852231
>no income
OK, don't spend money on shit you don't need then. You can get something later.
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>>61852256
I do need headphones, but there's a reason people have budgets.
You being "It's only x amounts of groceries" is just condescending.
Right now I'm just looking to see if I can replace my m40x for the same dedicated amount, if there's nothing better I'll keep it and wait.
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>>61852446
Justified purchases of items like headphones which are for the long-term are special cases outside of month-to-month budgets.
IDK how bad your situation is, but my intuitive understanding is that you should refund the m40x and focus on getting a job.
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>>61851458
Yes trance is certainly not for everyone. I'm a very physical person. I do drugs that make me feel good physically(opiates i quit 2 years ago though), I enjoy lifting weights when I'm healthy because of the rush/pump, I'm very particular with the kind of vidya I play in that I like the inputs to feel almost like playing an instrument(melee classes in WoW are a good example) and trance music is just an extension of all that. It's a very physical kind of music that I can actually feel. Power metal is the polar opposite genre but funny enough has a similar effect.
So your critiques of that song(one I found recently that I fell in love with) never even occurred to me but I still see why you feel that way. The autotune in particular doesn't bother me at all, I don't feel like "oh you're ruining her wonderful voice", it just makes it even more enjoyable to me.
Perhaps the bass problems are from that shit tier youtube encode/bitrate. The song sounds completely different in the flac version I have. There is a bit of a trend of electronic music being mastered like dog shit. Some songs will sound wonderful at a moderate volume and others on the same mix will clip like fucking crazy.
Can't wait to hear vocals on the HD600 and all the other headphones if I can get to Manhattan this fall.
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First time posting, pls be gentle

>Budget
Around 100€
>Location
Southern Europe
>Source
iPhone 6S and my gaming PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
They need to be portable/foldable
>Comfort level
High, going to use them the whole day. I have big ears.
>Sound signature
I listen to every genre. From metal and classical music to rap, hardbass and anime openings.
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>>61853155
>I like the inputs to feel almost like playing an instrument
I'd say to consider (idol) rhythm games. Look into love live school idol festival, deresute and mirishita.
>The song sounds completely different in the flac version I have.
I'd hope. Youtube vids are often fucked on the sound, for some unknown reason. Sometimes it's deliberate to avoid contentID from blocking the video. Often, it just makes no sense.
>There is a bit of a trend of electronic music being mastered like dog shit.
Depressing truth.
>The autotune in particular doesn't bother me at all, I don't feel like "oh you're ruining her wonderful voice", it just makes it even more enjoyable to me.
When used to hearing voices on HD600 (which gets the texture down to the point of hearing the fertility levels of the female), it's terrible. Most of the detail is gone, and all you get is a pitch-shifted synth mashup.
>Can't wait to hear vocals on the HD600 and all the other headphones if I can get to Manhattan this fall.
HF.
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>>61850876
Can you try lowering the cups slightly and angling them upward? I tried that with mine and it sounded much better. Even better if I angle them so the drivers aren't toed in. Too bad it didn't work for me.

Oh yeah, there's a layer of foam that makes the soundstage even worse. It's probably there to make it more neutral.
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>>61853215
Sennheiser HD380 Pro
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>>61853155
https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Magia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRHvd7sVEVU
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Any sort of closed back headphones to listen music while commuting/in public places ? I just use my smartphone. Audio-Technica 50's maybe ? Or something similar at lower/same price range ?

I own Sennheiser 558's for home usage, but they are obviously not suited for my purposes.
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Serious: Why do people use headphones outside? Earbuds are much less noticeable, harder to steal (heard some shit about people pulling headphones from people's head), don't mess with your hair and aren't any less comfortable.
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>>61849532
TH-X00 is cut feom the same template as the other Fostex OEM headphones. Boosted bass and contrated bump in the highs. No midbass bleed, because like most closed backs it suffers from the common low-mid cancellation. In audiophile speak, it lacka warmth and fullness.
Recessed upper-mid range like almost every other headphone. But then, it would be easier to list the ones that had excess in this region.

The Senn sets very generally favor bass over all else. I forget which Ultrasone was which after a few too many subpar experiences with them.

Armatures are many, too many to list. Usually associated with treble spikes and high sensitivty.
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>>61854876
Why music outside at all? Do you people have to hear music for the whole time you're awake?
Even with the risk of being distracted by music during the daily commute?
Headphone hipsters drop dead left and right as they're hit by buses and trams.
I've even seen people cycling while wearing bluetooth noise-cancelling headphones. What the fuck.
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>>61855269
I've got 2x 30 minutes bus where I'm doing nothing, might as well enjoy my music. I use earbuds though, and obv not while in traffic.
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>>61855311
earbuds are a reasonable option. Reading a book isn't so bad an option. Taking a nap is another, which I favor.
Full-sized headphones are uncomfortable for this kind of thing. On the go use takes a toll on hardware, so I wouldn't spend much on headphones for this kind of use.
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>>61855346
I usually do both, reading and music. Doesn't work for you?
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>>61855374
I mostly stand on a fucking TRAM while browsing 4chan or reading a novel on bakareader ex.
But I've used trains (40 minute commute) before and tried earbuds... didn't like it. I napped instead, much better experience. Always somehow waking up exactly at the right time to get off at my station.
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>>61855420
What novels are you reading there?
I downloaded bakareader like 3 years ago but vaguely remember it not working really well.
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>>61855461
Glance at:
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Category:Light_novel_(English)
For the available novels.
As to what I'm reading, besides kokoro connect (which is silly enough), I'm too ashamed to admit.
I'm reading youkoso jitsuryoku... on another site. https://confusedtls.wordpress.com/
And enjoying it a lot (ahem).
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>>61855532
Have you tried the monogatari series?
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>>61850219
Not at HD600 right now, will get to it later. Although , it isn't my particular trance flavor. Then again, there are twenty or so sub-genres to it.
There are quite a few headphones stores in Manhattan, and this is before we get into possible audio shows scheduled for the fall.
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>>61852167
HD580
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>>61846709
Owner of CB-1s , they suck ass , although that's just my opinion for being the first flat headphones, they are not even as comfortable as everyone says , they are enough to where you don't feel them on you but not really that 'comfy' feel, and get are a better version of the rosewill preludes , in sound quality, the preludes are terrible and uncomfortable as hell,

TL;DR the CB-1s don't live up to the hype so don't buy them unless it's your first pair of nice headphones
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>>61858653
The circled part here seems breaking-prone to me.
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Just got this Bluedio Vinyl as a gift and I've never heard of it before. Is it objectively good?
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>>61859018
it's objectively garbage
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I just bought a PS1 with ak4309avm dac and a pack of 50 cd-r's so I can burn shit rather than stream flac thru my pc. Did I fall for a meme, anons?
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>>61850219
Quick analysis:
-Track has boost from roughly 100Hz to 250Hz. Combines with HD600 midbass to be even more prominent.
-HD600 characteristic 4-5khz peak doesn't show itself well; vocal track has a 5-6kHz cut to it. Vocal energy is mostly focused from 1-3kHz.

Track is lower bitrate AAC, FWIW
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>>61859642
>Vocal energy is mostly focused from 1-3kHz.
Isn't that be due to the 100-250Hz boost?
Terrible mastering is terrible.
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>>61852167
How is life living in a shack with nothing expensive ever going to be in your life?
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>>61858653
>you don't feel them on you but not really that 'comfy' feeling
Yeah my headphones don't come with a nice, warm blanket or a cup of hot chocolate either. I just don't feel them anymore.
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>>61858653
>you don't feel them on
What's your complaint again?
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I have some awesome Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro 80's that I have loved since 2011.

I've been using a shitty Xonar dgx card, should I get a normal amplifier? I
have been eyeing a FiiO E10K Olympus 2. [spoiler]I'm paranoid that the shitty
Xonar card is adding shit to the audio and messing with the quality[/spoiler]
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>>61860127
Magni2
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>>61860127
If you're paranoid, get something like a Fulla 2 (dac+amp in a single $99 device) .
This will get you good sound regardless of the computer. it does have line in / out and pretty nifty functionality, so you can line in from your xonar to compare DACs, or if you ever get a higher end amp (like the magni2), it's also possible to chain the line out to it and use the fulla2 as dac-only. This is a popualr setup around here.
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I'm currently using Etymotic HF5s, and they aren't bad, but I want something more isolating. Are ANC headphones actually any good? What's the best isolation in the <£200 range?
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>>61860127
If you get enough volume out of your card and the sound isn't audibly hissy you do not need anything else.
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>>61860189
Active noise cancelling headphones actually isolate less than Etymotics according to InnerFidelity measurements. Etys are as isolating as you can get.
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>>61860152
>>61860183
>>61860199
thanks anons, will think about it.
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>>61860189
>I want something more isolating
>Etymotic
What.
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>>61860078
>>61860051
They are praised for being very very comfortable yet I've felt better from other headphones is what i meant
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>>61860324
How can you feel better than as if you weren't wearing them?
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>>61860216
>>61860280
Damn.
Yeah, the isolation is pretty good, but the London Underground can be real noisy. Maybe I should just be looking at different tips instead... I don't think I'm quite crazy enough for CIEMs.
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Any Sony MDRV6 owners here?
How is the sound?
I need something neutral.
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>>61860346
guess what else you can use on top of IEMs
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>>61860406
>I need something neutral.
Just go HD600.
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is there an audiophile general around here?
i want to talk speakers
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>>61860433
having speakers would require someone having their own place
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>>61860420
>monitoring with open back
Fuck off with your meme cans with no bass.
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>>61860420
>How are the Sony MDRs
>I need something neutral
>Buy HD 600s, goy
Off yourself; they aren't even in the same price range
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>>61860338
They dont feel as nice in my opinion, and they seem pretty quiet unless you have a amp
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>>61859844
I do not understand what you are saying.
The 100-250 Hz boost is from the bass kick.
The vocal sound is focused around 1-3kHz. The associated harmonics from around 5-7 kHz aren't present when Clare sings. When the noise and instruments go out, you can see a deep canyon centered around 6kHz.
The treble cut wouldn't occur during the mastering, but during the tracking or mixing. Possibly motivated by picking up excessive sibilance while recording.


>>61860189
If you want more isolation than Etys:
-You need more bass cancellation than any passive occlusion can provide
-You are wearing them improperly
-You aren't screwing up the fit per se, but you haven't inserted them very deeply to mitigate low-frequency occlusion effect
-The tips used are not optimal

With fresh foam tips and triflangles, the isolation should be better than most custom IEMs. This is a consequence of CIEMs not necessarily designed for a deep fit, The shells are usually hollowed out as well.
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>>61860433
what is your budget? 1k 10k 40k?
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>>61860564
1000k
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>>61860346
Etymotic's famous accuracy is lessened by customs anyways: https://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2013/05/etymotic-research-customfit-ear-sleeves.html
By the way, this should make your HF5 close to the more accurate ER4S in terms of frequency response: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Etymotic-ER4P-to-ER4S-3-5MM-plug-resistor-adaptor-/272584006783
It will also lower the volume because of the added impedance, which may or may not be a problem with your portable source.
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>>61860406
MDR-V6 are very accurate to the diffuse field curve. That means they sound bright.
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>>61860564
i already spent 8k on my setup
i just want a place to measure dicks and discuss which speakers suck more

also i have a hard on for tube amps so that too
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>>61860595
How about the Sony MDR7506 then?
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>>61860609
The same applies to the 7506.
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>>61860616
And the Status Audio CB-1?
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>>61860631
Not as bright, but build quality seems sketchy to me.
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>>61860564
... and no1 asked if it was "each" or a "pair".
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>>61860640
>build quality seems sketchy to me
For me too that's why I asked about the Sonys first.
Can you recommend me a good pair of neutral closed cans for under $200?
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>>61860679
Beyerdynamic DT250 80 ohm
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Are the Audio-Technica MSR7 good?
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This is now a Koss Portapro appreciation thread.
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>>61859216
unfortunately
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>>61860764
Bump
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>>61859216
What did you think that would accomplish, opening up the soundstage?
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>>61861084
That finger pointed up... is it ready to take a CDR? :^)
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>>61854473
Maguka!
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>>61861084
People say the ak dac sounds great. It's only -90dB SNR though. I'm thinking my perfected setup is too clinical and could do with some coloring. Hey, if it ends up a wash at playing music cd's, I can always mod it and put some super bubble pop on instead.
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>>61861205
>I'm thinking my perfected setup is too clinical and could do with some coloring.
Coloring is the job of the transducers and/or equalizer. DACs and amps should be transparent.
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I bought these the first day that they were available and there's nothing you can do to stop me, because it is already done. I've never owned any hybrids (although I own both DD and BA IEMs) and I wanted to try something new. Commence with the shitposting, and I'll let you know how they are when they arrive on Tuesday (if I have time).
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>>61861453
>not Etymotics
Into the trash they go.
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>>61861488
i dunno about campfires, but is it wrong if I look at IEMs as compromised sound quality on-the-go so build quality / durability and comfort is more of a priority?

I want to get some nice IEMs, but Etymotics look less comfortable and durable than Shure for example. what do? Shure SE215's measurements look ridiculously colored though.
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>>61861700
GR07
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>>61861700
>not buying chinese se215 clones
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>>61861700
ER4SR/ER4XR are plenty durable.
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>>61854717
M50x is good if you want bass, M40x is more balanced. Sony MDR 1-A, MSR7, M100s are also really good options for about $200
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>>61854876
>Why do people use headphones outside?
Because some people don't like sticking shit in their ears. Secondly, headphones are more fashionable and attract attention
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>>61854876
I have a 45 minute commute, I don't want to hear the assholes around me, I don't want shitty wires or short battery life, I don't want to lose expensive ear buds which is far more common than theft
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>>61861963
>Fashionable and attract attention
Name one (1) portable closed-back headphone that looks "fashionable" and doesn't sound like shit
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>>61861963
>Secondly, headphones are more fashionable

Lol.
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>>61860406
>I need something neutral.
XPT100 possibly. MDRs are bright and not enjoyable to use casually
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>>61860764
Yes, if you want a more balanced and somewhat bass lite portable pair of headphones, one of the best closed hps under $200. The only complaint I've heard is that the headband doesn't distribute weight super well, leading to hotspots. Sony MDR 1a is essentially a warm of the MSR7 for about the same price
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Not headphones but hoping someone here can help.
I'm getting new speakers and got 16 gauge wire. The wire is only going a max of 2 feet to the speaker. Did I cuck myself with too thin a wire? Or will 16 gauge be fine?
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>>61861985
Mrspeakers ether c flow
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>>61861985
MSR7, Sony MDR 1-a.

>>61862008
Yes, they can be more fashionable considering that you can actually see them
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>>61862069
No way am I going to wear that outside

>>61862072
I knew they were going to be Sony headphones, but you made a point anyway. Nice job, anon
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>>61862101
>not wearing HD600s outside
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>>61860764
they sound really great but a bit much treble for my taste. and the earpads weren't deep enough for my elephant ears
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>>61861985
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>>61862115
>Not wearing ear speakers outside
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Sound isolation and convenience of iems >>>>>> headphones for portability
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>>61849787
>Love Live
>gateway
We'll see about that, I'll just watch a few episodes to see what all this fuss is about. Won't even phase me.
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>>61862199
can confirm, I have the exact same problems with it. Not comfy on the head for long hours either even after bending the headband a bit in the centre to relieve pressure.
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>>61862211
Too clunky
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>>61862222
>Sound isolation and convenience of iems >>>>>> headphones for portability
News at 11: Grass is green
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So I bought a Magni 2 to see if that would solve an issue I was having with my K701s and DT880s and while I assume the issue with the DT880 is solved I still have the issue with the K701 And I cant pinpoint the location of the issue additionally How Does Replay Gain in Foobar2000 affect sound quality?
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Are hd 600 worth it
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>>61861985
Takstar Pro82
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>>61862365
Yes, but there are still flaws as with any other headphond
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>>61862422
Aren't chink shit brands frowned upon by normies? They look nice rhough
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>>61862520
Where do you think beats are made
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>>61862545
That's a different type of chink shit, anon. Endorsed by Apple, celebrities, and made by only the finest child workers
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>>61846055
I got a $35 credit to Best Buy and was looking for a replacement to my older worn down headphones.

Does anyone have any suggestions what even looks good from there? I have been eyeballing the Logitech G430 on their site.

I personally have a liking for surround sounds myself, so they look decent. Unless there are cheaper alternatives.
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>>61862652
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sennheiser-audiophile-over-the-ear-headphones-titan/1700513.p
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>>61859018
>>61859039
Tried them earlier, yeah they're poop. Put my HD600 back in even though I had a feeling nothing is going to beat my HD600. >>61862365
First time using them hurt my ears due to the fatigue but I can safely say that once you get used to it, your ears adjust to it and you don't even notice it anymore. Although if I had a choice, I would've picked HD650 over 600 because a bit more bass would've been nice. Mine hasn't broke yet, but the ear pad material was so nice that it was a swiffer for dead skin.
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>>61862620
so you're saying normies don't frown upon chink products. They just frown upon what isn't popular and normal.
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dt770pro, k550 or hd380pro at the same price?
I really like how akg looks btw.
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I'm not audiophile, but I got the new Piston Hybrid's. I don't know if this is the right term, but they sound a bit "empty". Something seems off about them, and they're also stupidly loud compared to my other earphones.
What's going on here? I've got a broken pair of original Hybrid's, only one side works though so any comparison I make is based off one ear. I'm not sure they seem as good though really.

What should I get in their place? KZ's I'm not high on
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>>61863490
Try K550's before buying. If you can consistently get a seal on them, you're good. They have sealing problems. No seal? No bass.
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>>61863490
Not sure about the exact model, but AKG K55Xs range from being mid-centric to treble with no bass
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>My desk isn't the right shape for speakers to fit on.

>cant move my monitor to fit speakers because it has drawers so I cant move my chair to the side
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>>61863578
>>61863561
I'm not really getting closed for the bass. I just don't live alone.
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>>61863490
>DT770
V-shaped headphones
>HD380
Somewhat neutral
>K550
>>61863561
>>61863578
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>>61863626
>HD380
>somewhat neutral
No.
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>>61863490
K550s if you can get a good deal with them. I suggest try them out if you can. HD380s kind of sound muddy, and DT770s aren't for everyone; some love it, some, not so much
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>>61863659
To be honest, I don't think you can really find a more neutral headphone at that price range. Or a truly neutral closed-back headphone at all
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Do quality wireless headphones exist yet?
I tripped over my headphone wire while a bit ago, causing it to yank itself really hard off my ears. It hurt enough to make me wonder about wireless for a bit.
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>>61863732
Why don't you just do some proper cable management instead?
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>>61863863
I have proper cable management for everything except my headphones I guess. I'm pretty stumped on how to manage my headphone cable so that it's long enough that I don't get tugged at at my desk, while still not getting in the way and annoying me while I'm working.
How do you manage your headphone wire?
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>>61863913
I have it wrapped around the base of my monitor enough that it has little to no slack when the cable is hanging off the edge of my desk
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>>61863687
>I don't think you can really find a more neutral headphone at that price range.
k612, hd558.
That aside, h380s are bass cannons.
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>>61863732
cute
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>>61862101
>Not carrying around a backpack with 30Ah battery, Stax amplifier & SR-009 headphones
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>>61864016
Bassy but not niggerbassy.
The midrange is at a similar level than the bass, unlike m50x where bass is significantly higher.
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>>61859216
>rivals $6000 cd players
wtf
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>>61846055
Guys,

I recently was on a weekend trip and left my Sennheiser HD 650 in my apartment on my computer. Apparently it got very hot, and my computer runs 24/7 so it might have additionally heated the headphones up.
When I try to listen to any music now, the instrumentals sound damp/like bad mono quality, and vocals barely come through anymore (like in a VERY low quality audio file). So the headphones are technically unusable.

Did anyone experience anything like this before? Will I have to replace the drivers? ...


Another thing: I recently got a new PC case, and it got a wireless charger "for Qi enabled devices" exactly where the headphones rested. Is it possible that this thing interfered with my headphones and toasted them? I put them there a few times before, but never for such a long period of time (4 days). I didn't even consider it could do anything.
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>>61865593
Pull apart the headphone and look for anything amiss.
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Best CIEMs under $400?
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>>61863541
They're probably v shaped.
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What are you opinions on these?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01K4N1PZ6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

Thats around the top end of what I can afford to pay and they look decent. Are they worth £70?
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>>61865650
>>61865593
HA!

I took it apart, and it looked fine, so I put it back together.

However I decided to try the cables, and the big cable seemed fine. Then used an oldass audio card which accepts the original 1/4" jack, and it turns out that the 1/4" to 3.5mm jack adapter was broken.

Pretty happy right now, was about to buy new drivers for about 120 euro...
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>>61865999
Trips
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>>61863541
I'm using KZ ZS5 right now. One of the best $20 purchases I've made.
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if I want to get the HD800, but I don't want something that looks as stupid as the HD800, what do I get?
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>>61866254
Beats. They're trendy. No normie will make fun of you for wearing them.
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>>61853215
>>61854325

Anyone else ?
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>>61862199
>>61862262
Different pads would fix it, the problem is if the pads change how they sound.
Any recommendations?
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>>61846055
if i was to get a pair of HD650's what kind of amp/dac would I need to drive them. I know I can afford the 650's but can i afford the rest of the shit needed to take advantaged of them
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>>61862199
HD600 are less bright.
mdr-cd900st if you want closed sony.
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>>61866371
>mdr-cd900st if you want closed sony
I don't exactly want a headphone by sony, I just want a sub $200 closed headphone that is neutral and with good definition and resolution for monitoring.
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>>61866451
>and the kitchensink
Sure, then that is one of your options.
Also add HD380 and HD569 to the list.
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>>61866254
>doesn't want to own best phones
>only poorfags think they look stupid
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>>61866510
>Best headphones
>Not audeze or Mr speakers.
>Spending 1k+ on dynamic drivers

:^)
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>>61866371
The Sony's mdr-cd900st seems pretty good tho, I think I'll get those.
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If I like warm/dark/bassy headphones, what are some good options for <$1000? Don't mind if they are open or closed
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>>61866633
k712, HD380 pro, HD569, HD650/6xx
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>>61866633
Audezes tend to be dark. LCD-2 is a prime example. Wide trough from 2-9kHz. Not rolled off though.
For a more general downward tilt, the Oppo PM2, Senn HD650, ATH-R70X can be considered. The MrSpeakers Aeon will probably, possibly be finished be finished soon. When it is, it should also have a general downward tilt.
Bassy headphones by and large are going to be closed back by nature. One is the SRH1540.
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Is CDLA the future?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjPkKK1KvLc
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>>61866879
>lossless audio technology blind test
A codec will either be lossless or not.
Thesed people are trying to market lossy as lossless.
They're fucking cancer.
They should use the word "transparent" instead.
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I'm stuck between getting the Sony XB950N1 or the Sony 1000X. If there are any better ones within a $300 price range, I prefer decent amounts of bass (not synthetic and not so much that it drowns out other sounds) good mids and some bright, but not sibilant highs. One other priority would be noise cancelling, a closed back and something comfortable so they don't become a nuisance.
Thanks.
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>>61866510
i want something more boring looking like pic related

but obviously I don't want to risk spending almost $2000 on pic related when I'm not sure I'll even like it. Maybe if I visit NYC or something I can find a shop that has a bunch of flagships on display.
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>want to be a good boy and use the wiki instead of making a stupid post
>links in the wiki are all dead

idiots
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Anyone know where I can buy replacement foam tips for the Sennheiser 215?
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What's the deal with Bluetooth headphones? Are ones that have the ability to improve audio quality by using aux cords a more better option? (Hi-Res Audio with Sony headphones)
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>>61867901
Might have to do with the lack of a audio jack in phones in the recent years
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>>61861700

If you want build quality and comfort first, Get the Exchobox Finder X1. That thing could withstand a nuclear blast, and they're so small and light that you almost forget that you're wearing them.
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>>61867901

People hate wires, but have less compunctions about keeping track of battery life in multiple devices. Also, your average Joe doesn't give a shit about sound quality, as long as it is loud and has bass. Bluetooth headphones/IEMs can easily achieve that.

They serve the same lazy purpose that bluetooth earpieces and smart watches do. I don't get people.
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>Budget
£90-100 bong bucks

>Location
UK

>Source
PC

>Type of headphone
full-sized with microphone, must have USB connector.

>Open or closed
Closed.

>Comfort level
Don't mind. Will accept a brick if it means I'm getting the best sound and microphone.

>Sound signature
Nothing too bassy. Don't know much about audio signatures.

>Past headphones
Razer Blackshark - Loved it until my PC took a shit and decided to break all the audio jacks

SteelSeries Siberia Raw Prism - Loved the audio quality and microphone, but it started to fall apart after half a year

Kraken 7.1 Chroma v2 """"7.1 surround sound"""" - returning it now because everything about it, excluding the mic, is fucking shit
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>>61861488

Here's a FR chart of the new Polaris (top), compared to the legendary Shure KSE1500 (bottom). Looks pretty close for a fraction of the price...
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>>61866306
I wouldn't touch the 380 pro. Instead, the Brainwavz HM5. It's an OEM headphone, so you might find local rebranded versions that might be even lower priced.

>>61867901
>>61868393
Bluetooth or not doesn't matter. Lossy coding is not a real concern.
If anything, it opens the possibility to improved sound quality, since end users cannot be expected or trusted to perform signal processing themselves.
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>Budget
£50 Great British Pounds can be persuaded to spend more

>Location
United Kingdom

>Source
One Plus 3 Bluetooth (I keep fraying the 3.5mm jack) I only need it for my commute to work and every now and then

>Type
iems

>Open or closed
Closed..

>Comfort level
Don't fall out of ears and is pretty comfortable


>Sound signature
No overwhelming bass if possible and fairly flat

>Past headphones
AKG k550
Grado pro sr80e(work owns them)
Xiaomi piston2.1
Shozy zero
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>>61868540
It's actually quite different.
I could type out a longer explanation, but you should really take those DIY IEM measurements with a degree of suspicion and caution.
They have general use for identifying peaks, but the curve shape in a real ear will be totally different. They won't sound anything like they graph, sound field correction or not.
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>>61868625
How would the Sony XB950N1 fare against the MDR-1000X? Is there anything better within the $200-$300 price range?
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>>61868756
>It's actually quite different.
Agreed.
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>>61868756

I take all measurements with a grain of salt, because my ears are the only thing that'll really matter in the end. Initial impressions coming out from demos are pretty dang positive, though, so I'm still hyped.
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Why do etymotics just stick out? Looks uncomfortable.
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>>61869048

E A R D I L D O S

Gotta go deep if you want that magic, and they have to be long so you can pull them back out.
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>>61869113
>deep
Oh fuck i think that may be a dealbreaker for me. I just want IEMs since theyre more practical on the go.
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>>61866343
U can just get an amp with proper cable . no need for DAC if your computer is adequate anyways. Prob wont hear a difference anyways.

I dont have my HD6XX yet but I was planning to just use an E10K and upgrade to a K5 if I really need to
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>>61868793
I have no idea what the XB950N1 is like. I'm not even sure how it differs from the XB950BT. I wonder if there is a demo pair at the local Sony store.
As for other sets, there's the standard competition from the Bose QC35.

PXC550 price is usually a bit high, the Parrot Zik 3 is really bass heavy, and I don't remember if there was a wireless ANC version of the ATH-MSR7 yet.
Some of the ANC sets from AKG/JBL have been getting attention for their features, but personal experience with the JBL Everest has been made difficult by poor earpads.

>>61868847
>>61868885
I don't disagree with that position, but I don't think you get it.
Load impedance is ill defined for these simple tube couplers, but basically amounts to single tube. The ear canal has contributions from middle ear resonances that significantly increase the midrange and upper end response based on the acoustic output impedance of the earphone. The acoustic Z of the earphone is almost never known about, so no real calibration can be done on them.

>>61869048
>stick out
They don't.
They are build around a deep fit, but the depth of insertion is overstated because 4chan loves exaggeration. By deep insertion, you insert them until it is seated at the bony portion of your ear canal. You can touch this portion of the ear with your finger and still have more than a centimeter (about 1/2 inch) of length left.
>practical on the go
Deep fit is mixed for this use. You get high isolation which useful for commutes and the fit reduces the occlusion effect. The isolation impacts situational awareness though.
Also, Ety cables are often stiff and don't lend themselves to over the ear fit easily. They tend to be prone to cable noise, leaving you with only the shirt clip for that. At least the fit reduces the low frequency boost.
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>>61853155
Late to the party but
https://youtu.be/yk-hLBbJ0vk
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>>61864016
I meant closed
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What is the baby's first Magnetic Planars? Looking for that flat as hell reference sound signature.

Budget is $1,000 AUD of $750 USD or so.
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>>61868455
>with a mic
That's a headset. See OP re: headsets.
tl;dr: They're all bad value, so we don't recommend them.
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>>61869956
You should look into STAX Lambdas instead of planars. They sound better and don't suffer from ortho wall ringing.
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>>61869205
Yeah I'm gonna need a DAC but ill just get a FiiO D03K Taishan I'm more worried about the amp because you know they are 300 Ohm headphones
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>be me
>read some random thread on head-fi
the retardation is strong over there
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>>61866337
I tried changing to thicker pads like HM5 sheepskin non angled. But that butchered the sound.
>>
"Proud" owner of DT770, DT880 and DT990 here.

I'd like to clear some things up:

inb4
>Yes, they are sibilant headphones. They are also very detail rich.


The only headphone out of these 3 that deserves all the memes is the DT990. The treble is ear rapey, the bass is muddy and niggery as fuck. The DT880 has hands down the best bass I have ever heard in my life. Not too little, not too much, just perfect and ultra precise. The treble is, admittedly, a bit of an acquired taste.

The DT770 is an excellent headphone for its intended purpose; it's a recording headphone. It isolates fucking everything from the outside and you still get decent sound. Bass is a bit muddy (compared to the DT880, nowhere near as bad as the 990) mids are a bit veiled, treble is a bit recessed when compared to the 880/990.

Seriously, stop all the fucking beyer memes, they're excellent headphones if you ignore the fact that the DT990 is useless nigger trash.
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>>61870705
What are you running them with?
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>>61846055
Replaced my fulla 2 with the magni 2 for the sake of aesthetics. I now have the full schiit stack, but I have a question. Is it worth me using the 'expert mode' switch on the modi? it says that I need to download drivers in order to use listen at 192k. I'm assuming it's a meme, is it it complete bullshit? do some people on head-fi at least believe it sounds better? I have never gone above 96k before. I didn't buy it for this reason, but now I'm curious.
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>>61870705
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>>61870765
Nice try, Sennshill. You aren't allowed to shit post and shill HD 600s until you actually own them
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>>61870736
FiiO E17K
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>>61870765
I personally prefer this version more
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>>61870761
>Replaced my fulla 2 with the magni 2

Meant to say modi 2
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>>61870868
That is probably why your DT990s sound so poorly. Treble goes through the roof when not run properly. See >>61737139
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>>61870914
That guy just admitted that they're treble cannons...
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Are any earpods clones actually good?
I have weird shaped ears and they're pretty much the only iem that dont make me want to rip them out after 10 mins of use.
Problem is they sound like shit and I dont want to give applel my money
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>>61870943
No shit, they're v-shaped headphones, but they sound even worse when not run properly
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>>61870970
Placebophile nonsense. Amps make headphones louder. That's it. There's no voodoo magic in accurate amps which magically changes headphones' sound signature.
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>>61846055
Hey anyone with a DT990 250 give these EQ settings a shot. You can install Peace GUI to do it. I spent a few hours last night working on them and it's like a whole new headphone, I love it.
Make sure you have an adequate amp though. I have my fx audio dacx6 at 80% just for listening volume.
Also open to any advice as this is the first time I've ever seriously tried to EQ something. There is one certain higher pitched frequency that doesn't sound right but I can't figure out where it is.
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>>61871026
You don't have a more powerful AMP to compare, don't you?
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>>61871041
>There is one certain higher pitched frequency that doesn't sound right but I can't figure out where it is.
Have you tried sweeping through the high frequencies with Sinegen to remove clearly audible peaks and dips?
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>>61871096
Describe in detail using credible sources as evidence the electrical mechanics behind one transparent amp changing the sound signature of a headphone compared to a different transparent amp.
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>>61871098
No, that's a really good idea though. Which one should I use on windows?
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>>61871096
>>61871117
Oh, also, leave impedance out of the equation.
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>>61871126
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/ contains the instructions you require.
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>>61862225
Don't watch it! It'll turn you gay.
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>>61871117
>>61871136
>Oh, also, leave impedance out of the question
Why?
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>>61871117
Not who you replied to but you don't think it makes sense that certain frequencies(especially the most prominent one in the headphones) would be even louder than normal compared to the other frequencies given a very limited amount of power?
I believe the dt990's need a different kind of amp than other headphones because they are of low resistance and need 25mw instead of a higher resistance but more sensitive headphone like an IEM.
I believe this is why it is suggested that an OTL tube amp is the ideal pairing for them.

@whoever is trying to reduce treble on their dt990, put 2-3 ply of toilet paper in front of the driver and see if you prefer it.
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>150€
>Europe
>Laptop, amp, desktop
>Full sized
>Open or closed
>I would like some comfy headphones
>Something neutral or v-shaped, maybe? I had the sennheiser hd 419 and find them a bit too much bassy for my taste
>sennheiser hd 419, beyer dynamic dt 660

PS: Was thinking about ATH-M50x or Beyer Dynamic DT 770 pro. The AT seems nice for portability
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>>61871242
HD600
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>>61871148
Thank you this is a really high quality article. Should basically be in the OP.
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>>61871260
those are 400€
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>>61871205
Because this image demonstrates that changing an amp's output impedance has no audible effect on DT990's treble.
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>>61871260
Are you mentally ill?
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>>61871277
Save up.
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>>61871223
>@whoever is trying to reduce treble on their dt990, put 2-3 ply of toilet paper in front of the driver and see if you prefer it.
You know, or just use a fucking EQ, but I suppose that would make too much sense.
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>>61871290
>Save up
Are you autistic and mentally ill?
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>>61871290
lol i stated literally in the first line that the budget was around 150€. fuck you
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>>61871288
He's false-flagging.
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>>61871242
HD 589
HD 569
DT 770
M40X
HM5
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>>61871357
>HD 589
I meant 579, or if cheaper, 598
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>>61871278
DT990 needs 25mw into 250ohms of resistance to hit 110db which leaves adequate room for EQ and quiet recordings. It is best to avoid driving them off of something better suited for low impedance headphones since there are so many sub $100 solid state amps that can do it. FiiO Q1, FX Audio Dac X6, magni 2, and micca origen+ can all do it and the x6 is only $65.
Is it really so hard to believe that an amp/dac unit that isn't well suited for a headphone can make it sound bad?
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>>61870761
I just got the drivers to work and I now have 192k working. Is it even worth using over 96k? I mainly use flac and spotify premium.
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>>61870761
>expert mode
is actually usb audio class 2 instead of 1.
Linux/BSD/OSX support it with their own generic drivers.
Windows 10 creators or whatever the current version is does, too.
Only on older win10 and 7/8 you will need to install drivers.
>192KHz, etc
Audiophool territory. 96KHz/24bit is plenty, and you get that with class1. Still, switch to class2 if you don't use old Windows.
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>>61853215
Which ones do I choose anons?

Sennheiser HD 380 Pro
Alessandro Grado MS-1
Sony MDR7506
Brainwavz HM5
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>>61871547
The MDRs or HM5s
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>>61871547
It seems as if you're considering both open and closed headphones. You'll be able to get better recommendations if you follow the format in http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub
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>>61871394
Explain the electrical mechanics behind one transparent amp producing significantly less treble response through a DT990 compared to a different transparent amp.
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>>61871664
How the fuck am I supposed to do that?
Get a dt990 and listen to it on a dragonfly black and then a dac x6 or other suitable amp.
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Anyone tried out the DT 1990 pros?
Might pick them up for a pair of daily drivers.
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>>61871718
I'm a big fan of the dt990 but my impression of them is that they are barely different for literally 5 times the amount of money.
Pink dt990 250ohm, green dt990 600ohm, blue dt 1990.
Get a 990 and drop the bass 5 db
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>>61871357
Why the m40x and not the m50x? Just curious.
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>>61871572
>>61871651
I would prefer closed, but the most important thing is that they should be foldable or atleast portable outside.
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>>61871674
>How the fuck am I supposed to do that?
You're not, because said mechanics don't fucking exist. There are two and only two logical explanations for the guy who said "driving the DT990s properly" results in reduced treble:
- One of the two amps he used in the comparison was not transparent;
- Confirmation bias
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>>61871793
Sorry, meant to include the M50x alongside the less v-shaped M40x. They are alright headphones, but too bright/harsh in my opinion. Also a bit overpriced; they were cheaper before they became popular
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>>61871848
The second explanation is far more likely and there is a third too: he was making it up.
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>>61871793
Because the m40x is cheaper and less bass heavy. You should only get the m50 if you really want more bass, so depends on your wants
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>>61871893
You aren't even going to try it?
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>>61871943
He's too poor, anon. He probably thinks he can EQ his $3 walmart shitbuds into HD800s.
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>>61846055
Real talk now, I have 450€ to spend. What should I get?
I've never had audiophile equipment before, I don't have a DAC or an Amp either. Until now I've just used USB headsets.

Should I buy a sound card, and all the jumbo?
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> get Superlux 662 Evos for closed back monitoring and guitar practice for 30 squid
> get a soldering iron kit and cabling to repair my ATH-AD700s for 20 squid

I was actually kind of looking forward to replacing the Audio Technicas and splashing some cash on a pair of AKG 702s, but really what's the point as long as the AD700s are serviceable? Is there even that much difference between the two?
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>>61871964
Anon already owns the 770, 880, and 990s. All he needs to do now is ditch his portable AMP
>>
Monoprice 15494 or SMSL iDEA?
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>>61872177
idea is the better DAC chip and measures better, but honestly I doubt you'll be able to hear the difference.
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>>61872106
>K702
why? AKG is pretty much dead now, their site at Austria already shut down.

don't buy the K702 either if you care about build at all. Plastic literally everywhere including the silver accents, headband held by an elastic that wears out eventually, clicky swiveling mechanism, virtually non-existent aftermarket for earpads because of propriety earclip thing, overpriced earpad replacements on site (price is per earpad as well just so you know), .etc

you can do better with $250.
>>
Why do you guys only talk about headphones and not speakers?
I need a new set of speakers for my desk, as mine are finally biting the dust after 10+ years. Could use some suggestions or resources
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>>61872270
the basement dwellers here can only afford an HD600 and fiio e10k after they saved their good boy points for 3 years, they could never possibly afford good speakers, so it's not a topic for discussion.
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>>61872270
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00DUKP37C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A1WOD6AIVDTXXE&psc=1
this is what I have in my wishlist but I still live with my parents because Toronto so it's on hold for now
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>>61872270
Cause this is /hpg/. It's in the title. If you want a thread dedicated to speakers, just make one.
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>>61872243

The K702s are about $170 in Britain but point taken. Lacklustre build quality sounds a pretty common complaint about the K702.

What are my options for well built open headphones in the $170 and below range? Sennheiser is immediately out of the question because of the thin voice coils.
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>>61872366
>well built open backs
>below 170 shekels
DT880 is the best you're gonna get
>>
>>61872127
Why do you capitalize amp like a retard?
>>
Is there a point to owning a headphone other than the HD 600?
>>
>>61872388

> non replaceable cable

trash
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>>61872463
Yeah, some people don't like having shit headphones
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>>61872388
>DT770/880/990
>well built
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>>61872366
HD579 are the best sounding headphones in your price range and do not have the thin voice coils of the HD600/650, not that those voice coils are known to break often.
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>>61872454
Why do you care? You some kind of autist?
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>>61872467
But the HD 600 is objectively the best headphone ever made.
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>>61872471
At least you don't have to pay $100 to replace them
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>>61872366
hd579, you can do this to them
>>
How long do audiphile tier headphones last?
I usually replace my headsets every three years or so. Do audiophile headphones last more than that similar to Mechanical keyboards lasting more than rubberdomes?
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Are tube amps a hipster meme or are they actually superior?
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>>61872471
>a single image of a broken headphone proves poor build quality

Wow, /hpg/ still does this? Is it 2017 or 2013?
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>>61872500
>Chink shit build quality
>Inb4 doesn't actually own the headphones
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>>61872535
They're inferior. They are either less accurate or equivalently accurate to solid state for a higher price, all while being less reliable than solid state.
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>>61872543
HD 600 are constructed in Ireland by the finest artisans and have tremendous build quality.
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>>61872541
>It's literally the current year!
>>
>>61872571 new thread
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>>61872463
When you don't want HD 600
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>>61872554
>By the finest artisans
No wonder they snap so easily and cost so much to replace
>>
>>61861815
Are those actually not shit?
>>
Linuxfag here.
What EQ software do you guys use?
>>
Are there any good Bluetooth adapters for something like the M6 pro or Shure SE215? (that less than $100) I used to own a BONNAIRE MX - 620 and I miss the convince of being able to switch between wired or wireless
>>
>>61872792
Yeah, mmcx bluetooth adapter
>>
>>61872753
Equalizer APO is the main thing keeping me chained to Windows. It is a miracle of the universe.
You may wish to see if you can somehow get https://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/brutefir.html working system-wide in Linux. If you do, let us know, please. AFAIK there is no parametric equalizer with a large number of available bands which can be used system-wide in Linux, but a convolver like the one I linked in this post may be the best solution, as Room EQ Wizard can generate impulse responses from EQ filters which convolvers can use.
>>
>>61872554
>in Ireland by the finest artisans
You mean, drunk on guiness.
>>
>>61872888
Dayum. Had no idea you were this passionate anon-kun
>>
Just bought some beats ep and they're pretty gud
>>
>>61873198
Stop posting, anon. /hpg/ will eat you up alive
>>
>>61873230
Should i refund????kekekekekeke
>>
>>61873246
I don't know, dude. Do you like them? There are definitely better headphones for the price. How much did you pay for them?
>>
>>61872270
I ordered the Vanatoo T0s I'm hoping they're good like shills say. I just hope its soundstage is like what i want.
>>
I payed 100 bucks but i dunno they sound awesome but everybody says that they break very often, if i use them during long periods of time they start to get uncomfortable. Other than that they sound great
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>>61872270
Because being too poor for speakers is cool now. Also spouting audiophool terms like "detail retrieval" and "tonal accuracy" (which ironically most headphones have worse thd than speakers) is also the current trend.
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>>61872500
>Objectively superior
>Dynamic drivers at $300

So how is 4-5% thd objectively superior again?
>>
>>61873392
>$100
That doesn't look too bad, but I also have no idea how current Beats headphones sound like. Hope you like them and don't regret them in the long run, anon.
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>>61873412
Most speakers have pretty lousy low frequency distortion performance. Large excursion required makes that infeasible without any feedback mechanism, especially below resonance.
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>>61872535
Depends on the application.

Tube amps have lots of even order harmonic distortion typically. This is the one kind of harmonic distortion you may want (especially second order which is common in tube amps) because it causes the mids to become "fleshed out" or bloomed and adds a heightened midbass warmth that some people find more pleasing than solid state. There's also an argument that time domain wise, tube amp are more accurate than solid state, but they also have bass "sag" within that same time domain argument.

The best tube amps, in my experience, are ones that balance the harmonic distortion with accuracy and never cross over 2%. Output transformerless also sounds much better because it takes The time domain accuracy I mentioned earlier to an extreme.
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>>61873461
You mean extension? Because yeah most bookshelf speakers and slim tower speakers max out at 40hz. Thd is still lower though across the board.

My speakers have 12" woofers, they don't cross over 0.5% thd from 20hz to 100hz, and the f3 is 29hz. F10 is at 20.
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>>61873308
Can't go wrong with those for the size and price. Plus the imaging and soundstage on speakers is so much better as a whole. Im sure you'll enjoy them.
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>>61873516
Distortion components, but extension as well. Headphones present the advantage of the pressure chamber, which benefit both.
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>Budget
Under 100€
>Location
West Europe
>Source
Huawei P7 and my laptop
>Type
Over Hear/Full-sized
>Comfortable level
High, i use them for long periods of time
>Use
I will use them for listening to music (every genre) mostly and watching videos beacause yt is life #team10
>Plus
Best sound possible
Prefer foldable headphones
>>
>>61873635
HD600
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>>61873668
man under 100€ pls
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>>61873720
>Save up

Ath-m40x
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>>61873635
SHP9500S
HD 558
HM5
CB-1
M40X
>>
>>61873782
man is just that i dont need headphones that good or that expensive
>>
>>61871461
Thanks, but now that I have the drivers, is there any reason why I shouldn't just leave 32 bit 192000 hz on, for everything?
>>
>>61873801
I understand where you're coming from, that's why I recommended the ath-m40x. They're $70 in burgerland and I think they'd be similar where you're from.
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>>61873801
He was memeing, anon
See >>61871290
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>>61873845
ok thx anon
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>>61873852
oh i didnt notice im kinda new here in 4chan
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>>61873668
Retard
>>61873635
M40X or CB-1. It depends on how foldable and comfy you want. Comfy now and cups just lay flat? CB-1. Fold up pretty nicely but the stock pads are ass? M40X. PortaPro is also a decent cantidate as they fold up to the size of your palm and are super comfy and light with little clamp but are on ear.
>>
>>61873937
Kek. Don't stick around here for too long; this general's a cesspool once you get to know it.

New thread up, btw
>>61872576
>>
>>61873961
>>61873791
Which one of them have the best sound?
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>>61874046
Highly subjective. Out of that list I'd pick the shp9500s (great mids, highs are a bit bright but lack of sub base) the cb-1(great bass and mids, wonky highs) or the m40x (fairly balanced out of the three, but some high roll-off)
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>>61874086
Am with anon on the SHP9500S, but they may be overpriced where you live. Otherwise, HD 558 for open, or M40X for closed
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>>61874159
>>61874046
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