/hpg/ - Headphone General

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HD600s are for brainlets.

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nth for dt990 the most FUN headphone

Lol remember that time when you bought a pair of RE-400s and they broke after a week? Hifiman, never again.

Although the sound quality was good, and they were nice looking IEMs.

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>>61872571
5th for anime grills with headphones

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> have retarded flatmate who whines about me playing my ps4 on speakers
> buy VE monks just for ps4
> start using it as go-to-sleep set
> start using it more than my daily driver
What's next? VE Zen 2.0?

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61872640
dumb HD600 poster

So my HA-2SE came in today. It's a pretty big difference from output that comes straight from my phone.

Anyone own a pair of 579s? There are hardly any reviews for the "new" Sennheiser stuff and I'm trying to find info about the soundstage for these.

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Is the HD579 any good?
There are some things that I really like about them. They look cool and the color is great, removable cable, they look comfy, and I've always wanted to own a pair of sennheisers.

>>61872699
Soundstage should be roughly the same as HD558/598, meaning excellent.

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>>61872699
>>61872712

Do the 579s have the same thin voice coils as other models in the Sennheiser price range?

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>>61872712
HD579, from the measurements I've seen, are basically an HD558/598 with improved sub-bass extension. This means they're the most accurate headphones in their price range, and you can do webm related to them.

>>61872738
That is a design decision unique to the HD600/650/6XX. I am also not aware of a trend of snapping coils in those models.

>>61872739

Even though it was fine, this was painful to watch

>>61872738
Nope

>>61872589
Reminder that grados are for elder deaf fucks.

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>>61872605
Did you watched Love Live!?

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>>61872571
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61872699 >>61872712
HD599 is, from what I've seen in FR and reviews, a significant improvement over the HD558/598.
The most perceiveable part of it is vastly improved bass extension.

The HD579 seems to be, by FR, identical, but reviewers do seem to agree it sounds better than the HD599. Either way, it's WAY cheaper so among those two it is the one to get.

>>61872755

The HD-25s have similarly thin voice coils.

t. had two pairs break

>>61872964
wow

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>>61872589

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>>61872851
No, I haven't yet. I'll go find a torrent right now. I'm not sure if I'll actually be able to get through it though. It would have to secure my interest pretty quickly. I don't even watch movies anymore because I usually get bored after an hour of it.
I started playing with EQ last night and it's like discovering a whole new world. I love the sound from my 990's with the curve I set up. It makes me think I might like some etymotics.

>>61873063
Watch the first 3 episodes, if you don't like it drop it but I'm sure you'll like it :)

>>61873063
Ouch @ torrent. Grab this one, which is the best release I'm aware of: https://nyaa.si/view/486767

My several year old Aune amp shit itself, what would you guys pair with a DT880 600ohm? I'd prefer it to be under $200 and have a nice volume nob

>>61873467
Schiit stack?

>>61873467
Magni 2 Uber $149
>>61873505
He needs only an amp not a dac.

>>61873505
>>61873539
I've seen Schiit thrown around a few times, but I hadn't ever looked at their products. Good suggestion, thank you guys.

>>61872633
>Prodigy

Patrician taste. Consider the kz zs5's for your next step up.

Is there any drawback in connecting DAC to monitor USB port instead of connecting it directly to computer? Apparently it reduces quality but is that so or is it a meme.

>>61873793
None whatsoever. Bits are bits and as long as the signal gets from point a to point b you're gucci

Is there any reason to own a headphone other than the HD 600?

audio noob here. how do I use a usb DAC/amp dongle? Can I simply plug it into my windows 10 desktop/ubuntu17.04 laptop and plug my headphones into that and that's it? or does it need to be 'set up' in some way to make it work properly?

>>61873951
variety

>>61872571
Is 192000hz a meme or does it make a difference? I appreciate the anons response in the last thread but I want more opinions. Is my (expert '192' switch) on my modi 2 an absolute meme?

>>61873989
192khz is kino

>>61873951
yes

>>61872640
650, seriously.

>>61873989
For listening 44khz is quite adequate.

>>61873989
Theoretically makes no difference. But you might as well enable it, you paid for it after all!

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>>61873951
Yes, especially with thd this high.

>>61873989
192khz is a meme, a young(16-24) human with good hearing can hear from 17-18hz to 20khz(maybe 21khz).

>>61874010
I'm a /tv/ regular so your reply means nothing. Though it might still be kino

What's going on with AKG? Are they bankrupt?

SHP9500S
HD 558
HM5
CB-1
M40X
Which one?
I want the best sound with the best comfort
dont want anything too professional or too good since im using them for listening to music mostly and other things like watching videos etc
btw budget is under 100€

What's the current poorfag can? Still a superlux?

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Idol trash here... been listening to random non-idol stuff, like prodigy. Right now oasis, somehow.

>>61873951
Yes. It helps you realize how good HD600 is against the other headphone, and wonder why the fuck nobody can release something better than 1997's HD600.

>>61873989
>192KHz
Meme. Exploiting the "higher numbers means its better".
>switch
It's not. The DAC chip they use supports 192KHz. The switch is there because windows prior to the current win10 do not support usb audio class2 without installing third party drivers. It's meant to be in expert mode, unless you're using older windows and you're too much of a lazy fuck to install the drivers.

>>61873467
Magni2.

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>>61873421
Holy shit. I set up madvr with mpc-hc at max settings and I've never seen anything like this. It's even got my 980ti hitting full clock speed. I just watch 480p dragonball super from horriblesubs...

>>61873989
Do you even have 192 music? I've never found anything I listen to in higher than CD quality. Or do you mean up-scaling?

>>61874093
>SHP9500
best sound:check
best comfort:check
dont want anything too professional:check
btw budget is under 100€:check

>>61874050
>>61874026
>>61874043

Thanks. I should just leave the switch on, and the setting on my pc just for the sake of it? with zero negative effects?

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>>61874110
I personally use my modi2uber (has no switch, always expert mode) at 96/24. The reason I do use 96 over 48 or 44.1 is simply that it's high enough that Windows resampler can probably do a good (transparent) job. 44.1 -> 48 and 48 -> 44.1 I just do not trust it to.

>192KHz/32bit
Waste of CPU time, beyond ridiculous territory.

>>61874093
SHP9500S
>>61874095
How poorfag are we talking about?

>>61874194
under 100 aud

>>61874049
>10% thd in the bass region
wow it's nothing

>>61872571
How loose are girls like her?

>>61874208
SHP9500S

>>61874188
But what benefit could you have from doing that? The source is 44.1, it's not going to just pull bits from the ether, or is it?
I thought the higher sample rates were just for like redbook cds and blu-ray music and shit.

>>61874216
>being deaf

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>>61874110
It ain't that bad for me.

>>61874188
I always used 96 before I bought this modi. I'm assuming I should stick to that?

>>61873951
You aren't a poorfaggot

>>61874230
>SHP9500S
those are over 100 aud

>>61874273
Then no ideas here, senpai. I bought mine for $55 USD new.

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>>61874245
No I mean it's good. It's really high quality and madvr is increasing the frame rate and shit too.

I wonder what the best headphones are for hq animu?????
>inb4 hd600

>>61874236
It's not a choice.
Videogame music, dvd music, digital tv audio, etc. are typically 48KHz.
CDs are 44.1KHz
Windows has a software mixer that will allow you to hear sound from multiple applications at once. To achieve that, it has to resample.
You're either resampling to 44.1KHz or to 48KHz. As the target is close in both cases, the aproximation is not very good, particularly if the resampler is optimized for performance and low latency rather than quality. Setting a higher target (96 is exactly twice 48KHz, more than twice 44.1) makes the fastests and shittiest resamplers behave decently.

why are Sennheiser's 500 series much better built than their more expensive 600 series

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>>61873951

If you're not a sheep and actually want to try different sets to find what suits your personal taste, then yes, there is a reason. It's never a BAD choice, but I'm fairly certain that a fair majority of the people who just buy it on recommendation could find something they personally like better, without EQ. Ya'll got a cult of personality around here as bad, if not worse, than Reddit or Zeos fanboys. Fair recommendations are okay, but they are not the be-all, end-all.

>>61874319
mouthbreathers are more likely to buy the cheaper mainstream series of can (500) and therefore the build quality needs to be better

>>61874319
They use actual bendable plastic without thin-ass voice coils.

>>61874337
But all the fat retard autist weeaboos buy 600s.

>>61874319
Because the 500 series is build for gorillas and the 600 for audio enthusiast that know how to treat headphones.

>>61874245 >>61874297
This is similar to graphics. Upcaling an old videogame that's, say, 1024x768, to 1080p, will look weird, especially so if there's pixel art. Some "pixels" will be bigger than others, or a blurry headache inducing mess.
Same videogame, same 1024x768, but upscaled to 4K, does actually look good. Be it using nearest aproximation or something more sophisticated (and intrinsically blurry), it will still look better when the target is 4K than with a 1080p target.
Using a 96KHz sample rate target is the same idea, but with audio.

what are some headphones with good soundscape liquidity?

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>>61874363
>Gorilla
Kek. An anorexic chink is able do that

>>61874383
>good
HD600.

>>61873951
I don't want boring shit

>>61874319
Because they can't snap
>>61872739

>>61874393
zzz i have made a mistake. I should have just bought an HD598 instead of the HD6XX

>>61874383
>Good soundscape liquidity
What?

what are some headphones with good sub-treble granularity?

>>61874422
Baby them. Don't stretch the headband too far, and don't drop them with they thin-ass voice coils. Don't buy the 598s unless if you want to be cucked by modded HD 558s

>>61874049
THD measurements are not a reliable indicator of audibility:
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_I.pdf
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_II.pdf
> In our next paper we will show that .01% THD of one type of nonlinear system can be perceived as unacceptable while 10% THD in another example is perceived as inaudible. Even one of these simple examples is sufficient to invalidate THD as a viable metric for discussion of the perception of distortion. Furthermore, 1% THD is not at all the same as 1% IM, but we will show that neither correlates with subjective perception.
>These results supported the skepticism that THD and IMD metrics were poor predictor of subjective perception of sound quality ratings.
Furthermore:
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044
>Research has suggested that non-linear properties of headphone responses have little effect

>>61872571
Good idea to replace my old m50x for bt770s?
Looking for some comfy closedback headphones.

>>61874508
debunked

>>61874508
>More THD is better
S T O P

>>61874512
dt770*

what are some headphones with a fast soundstage?

>>61874508
>>61874514
And poorly sealed

>>61874411
>snap
Or I will attack, and you don't want that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm6DO_7px1I

>>61874049
Furthermore:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e38e/b5526af06589596390cd585e6aa38c19344c.pdf
From this presentation given at the AES 129th convention:
>Conventional distortion measurements such as THD do not show reliable correlation to the ear’s perception

>>61872571

i've got a pair of AKG K612 Pros and my best friend is sending me his modded Grado SR80e's. but a pair of electrostatic cans is a nice thing to have.

is the Massdrop Hifiman cans a good deal?

>>61874571
Yes if you can handle its cheap feeling build quality

>>61874566
Keyword
>reliable
Paper is not claiming there's no correlation.

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>>61874366
That was a pretty good explanation anon. I switched my settings in windows over to 24bit 96khz from 16bit 44.1. I didn't realize window's grimy hands touched my audio at all anymore now that I have a dac/amp. I thought it handled it at all but I guess thats impossible because( as another anon said) something has to manage the audio from multiple programs.

>>61874533
http://www.beyerdynamic.com/shop/custom-studio.html

dt 770 with removable cable

The post >>61874514 has now been debunked by >>61874566

This post >>61874588 has been debunked by >>61874514, >>61874522, >>61874544 and >>61874584

It is also poorly sealed

>>61874586
There's ways (ASIO (3rd party API been around for a long time), WASAPI (windows API, newish)) to get bit-exact output with (if lucky) knowledge and maybe control over latency.
The issue is that the soundcard becomes a resource exclusive to the program that's using these APIs. Definitely not worth it, when simply setting the shared target to 96KHz is overkill for preventing potentially audible resampler artifactry.

>>61874566
>misinterpreting this paper to suggest ridiculous amounts of distortion is inaudible
How you enjoying them $3 earbuds faggot

>>61872571
I used to own a sansa clip before it broke but I found a samsung yp-q1 on the floor yesterday. For anyone who knows about portable mp3 players. Is it worth me using this thing or should I just buying another sansa clip?

>>61874508
>>61874566
Hello, anon! How are those non-existent HD 600s working out for you?

>>61874583

how's it cheap-feeling? is it actually less durable, or is it like the AKGs where they're well-built but lightweight?

>>61874586
If 24 bit audio is the highest you can set it to, 24 bit, 48 kHz is probably your optimal setting. Most music is 44.1 kHz and most anime/movies are 48 kHz. Use Resampler-V in Foobar to upsample 44.1 kHz audio to 48 kHz and listen to anime/movies in their native 48 kHz. You can avoid Windows resampling almost entirely this way, except for when playing back audio encoded above 48 kHz. I would honestly recommend converting said audio to 44.1 or 48 kHz to save storage space as there are no audible benefits to audio above 44.1 kHz.
There's no reason not to use 24 bit or even 32 bit if you can since Windows automatically upsamples all audio to 32 bit floating point at some point in the audio chain.

>>61874566
>Be buttblasted hd600 shill that doesn't even own the headphones
>Spend 3 weeks attempting to convince anons that more thd is better and that thd is not an indicator of inaccuracy
>No one believes me because I repeatedly post the exact same article written by a schmuck that has no respect in the industry.
>"Fuck, no one believes me. I need MORE."
>Spend weeks searching for at least one other shit-tier study that somehow supports my narrative
>Finally finds one today!
>"LETS SEE THE TRIPFAG DEBUNK THIS MWAHHAHAHAHAHA"
>posts it
>Exact same shitty conclusion that means absolutely nothing to the audio industry
>Every manufacturer still uses thd as a indicator of accuracy
>HUURRRR DISTORTION IS GOOD
>NOT AUDIBLE TO PLEBS HAHAHA GET WRECKED TRIPFAG
>get neverending debunked and poorly sealed (you)s
>You will call samefag and the tripfag will BTFO you with a screenshot.

Rinse and fucking repeat.

>>61874651
>>61874704
Put the tripcode back on. Nobody's misinterpreting anything here except you.

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>>61874729
>thinking everyone who disagrees with you is the same person
Just stop

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>>61874729
:^) you're garbage. Your opinion is irrelevant. You have absolutely no understanding of acoustics.

>>61874742
>he's still shitposting and using inspect element

>>61874742
>>61874753
>>61874719
Literally fucking predicted to the letter.

Get rekt.

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>>61874729
Dude, you committed suicide multiple times doing this. Please stop and go back to shilling the HD 600s you don't even own

>>61874753
Why do you insist on shitposting when anyone else in the thread can read the peer-reviewed studies which have been posted and immediately realize that your image in >>61874049 means nothing and that you are simply shitposting? Oh, right, same reason you use a trip.
>NOTICE ME

>>61874758
>Accuse of samefagging
>Gets BTFO'd
>M-m-muh inspect element!
Go back to shilling after you've bought your HD 600s, Rajeesh

>>61874245 >>61874297 >>61874586
Excelent taste in idol anime.

>>61874758
>>61874766
Go on, tell me how I can use inspect element on a phone.

>>61874758
>getting BTFO'd again for having a shitty opinion and not owning the headphone he shills
>It's the inspect element, I swear! Its all a lie!

Fuck dude, maybe instead of posting studies you barely understand that also mean absolutely nothing to anyone, why don't you get a part time job to buy your precious meme600s?

>>61874785
>Inb4
>>61874508 and >>61874566

>>61874241
You would be deaf if you regularly listened at 90 and 100db that those measurements were taken at.

>>61874812
Lmao. Earlet detected

>>61874785
>having ptsd from the tripfag.

He's a lot more valuable than your irrelevant, shitposting ass in these threads.

>>61874812
>he doesn't know how music works
Just stop

>>61874508
>>61874566
thank you for these informative links anon
it is now clear to me that thd measurements are not particularly useful, especially regarding headphones
is there a better way to measure headphone distortion which better correlates to audibility?

>>61874708
The HE-4XX, correct? Specifically, the connection between the headband and the earcups. But they are nice entry-level planars and nice choice over their identical HE-400is.

>>61874821
trip is off again

>>61874841
Pretty sure you've posted this before, anon.
>>61874849
Aagain? Dude, stop. You're acting more autistic than the majority of /ptg/

>>61874785
>Huge amounts of distortion mean nothing!
>Read these "peer reviewed" studies that I misinterpreted to fit my narrative! Even though the rest of the industry doesn't give a single flying fuck about them!
>He's shitposting I swear! Repeatedly posting the same flawed rebuttal with flawed studies that I misinterpret while not understanding acoustics and then shilling my shit tier meme cans isn't shitposting!
>You just shitpost! You totally don't provide a ton of reasonable purchase advice!
>I POST THE SAME THING EVERY THREAD FOR THE ATTENTION WAHHHH WHY ARE THEY RESPONDING POORLY SEALED AND DEBUNKED WAAAAHHHH

Christ, I'd say your autistic but that would be a euphemism. At least your average individual on the spectrum is capable of fucking learning something and understanding the sources they use in an argument.

>>61874796
Can you even do that on a cell phone? Honestly I don't read user names so I don't notice trips but the fact that someone is tripfagging WHILE PHONE POSTING is just too much. can't cope

>>61874842

yup. worth waiting until mid-December for them?

>>61874884
>Inspect element on a phone
No, you can't

>>61874299
They could have used a recursive filter if performance was so critical. You lose phase accuracy with the benefit of a steep stopband and zero inherent latency.
Directsound doesn't do that though, so it just sucks. Directsound SRC isn't the only SRC available to Windows either.
>24/96 Directsound resampling test
http://archimago.blogspot.com/2015/11/measurements-windows-10-audio-stack.html


>>61874711
>48khz.
Still doesn't get around the aliasing problem.

>>61874864
>You're acting more autistic than the majority of /ptg/
>autistic

where do you think you are

>>61874909
>2017
>not having full control of DOM trees in his pocket supercomputer

Does anyone else here ever get the impression that there is sometimes shitposting in /hpg/ being organized between several members of an IRC channel, as has been known to happen on /a/? The shitposting sure seems to come in large, sudden waves of posts at times here.

>>61874128
>best sound:check
Not really. They are bright.
>best comfort
HD558 and CB-1 are very comfy

>>61874093
It depends, do you want closed or open? If closed, M40x is more balanced than the CB-1, which is warm, bassy. If you want open, get SHP9500 for brighter sound, HD558 for warm.

All the headphones you listed are good

>>61874930
/hpg/. Right behind /ptg/ and tied to /spg/

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>>61874536
>fast soundstage?

>>61874947
>>61874905
>Worth waiting until mid-December for them?
Fuck. I didn't read you correctly. No, I personally wouldn't but i'm also an impatient fuck

>>61874958
Nah I think I've just given 1-2 Sennheiser shills ptsd so they shitpost every time they see me, sometimes when I haven't even posted yet.

>>61874958
In this shithole? HA!

>>61874958

>The shitposting sure seems to come in large, sudden waves of posts at times here.

It also seems to center on when the tripfag is around.

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>>61874922
Cool link :)

>>61874979

yeah my last few drops have had some crazy wait times. stuff that's got limited drop numbers for stuff like knives hasn't been too bad. but i've started checking the ship-by dates on massdrop.

>>61874971
What are you, a retard? Kek. I bet you don't even have adaptive smoothing applied to your bass.

>>61874922
>48khz.
>Still doesn't get around the aliasing problem.
Elaborate.

Upgraded my Focusrite Saffire interface with a Magni 2. Even my Philips X2s (30 ohm) sound nicer out of the Magni than the Saffire's headphone jack. Mids and highs are clearer. Maybe it's due to the difference in output impedance of the amps since the Saffire is 7 ohm. Maybe it's confirmation bias.

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Are the Mackie budget monitors any good? Are there better monitors in the same price range?

>>61875052
in the same price range they are top.
Nothing else comes close

>>61875052
I'd say splurge a bit more on the vanatoos for $249 but for that price those are hard to beat.

>>61875052
Fuck yes

>>61875035
I misread/mixed your post up with another one.

>>61874711
lot of bad head-fi quality informations in that post
use wasapi push and lock it to 24 bit, if supported. only resample down (192->96) if, for example, 192 isn't supported by your dac. let everything else pass thru unmolested. consider an advanced limiter in your chain if you listen to badly mastered or low quality files.

where can i find some .flac of girls moaning/having sex

>>61875207
I'll take out my Tascam next time your mom's over.

>>61875263
wtf I have two dads

>>61875304
Sorry to bring you the news, one has a pussy.

>>61875152
>lot of bad head-fi quality informations in that post
Specify.
>use wasapi
Equalizer APO is far more useful than WASAPI, which disallows use of EAPO.
>only resample down
But Resampler-V upsamples transparently, anon.

>>61875207
Listen to idols. Better than sex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL8ytOg0BW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJKaDWz_Cds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5fKDOP4h3Y

Yui a cute. A CUTE!

>>61875152
wasapi is a meme
>>61875467
resampler v is overkill nobody in here could hear the effects of windows resampling in a blind test

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Is the AKG K92 any good?

>>61875537
There is no one Windows resampler. There isn't even one resampler for a given API given that there have been multiple audio hotfixes and glitches over the years. Some are more noticeable than others.

>>61875723
you cannot hear the effects of windows resampling in a blind test

>not using wasapi
why would anyone let windows fuck with their precious music bits? deliver it to the dac as requested, at the rate I want, untouched.

>>61875836
Why would anyone not use Equalizer APO instead? All headphones/speakers can benefit from equalization and you cannot perceive the effects of resampling. This whole resamping debate is an autistic one over something ridiculously minor and inaudible.

>>61872640
Why are you so poor?

PPHS vs SSRC resampler? Which one is better?
I'm using foobar2k btw.

>>61875934
EAPO can run as a VST, can it not? So add it to your chain with foo_vst if you must and use foo_out_wasapi for bit perfect output.
>inb4 i'm not running foobar2000, you dweeb.

>>61876031
>not using a minidsp so you can have fully configurable EQ on any OS
Poorfag

>>61875994
Resampler V is the best resampler for Foobar.

I have more expensive IEMs that I use for longer periods on the go

However I have found small profile earbuds to be more comfortable for use while relaxing

What are the best price:performance cheap earbuds with a small form factor?
I've had a pair of Sennheiser CX200s for years now but the cabling gave.

>>61876031
>EAPO can run as a VST, can it not?
I do not think so. The VST wrapper I use for Foobar can only use one VST at a time and I use it for crossfeed.

>>61876031
Not EQAPO. EasyQ works. So did Electri-Q.
You can use any one of the dozens of other VST EQs available.

>>61875934
>>61875994
It's an issue if the resampler is broken. Which it sometimes is. But usually not. Generally irrelevant.
The easiest way to test is with a sine sweep. If you hear anything other than the sweep, that's an issue.

>>61876098
>Resampler V
Where can I get it? Don't see it in the component page.
What is "Ultra Mode" in the PPHS resampler.

>>61876166
https://sourceforge.net/projects/resamplerv/

>>61876099
HJE-120, they're very comfy and they're excessively easy to EQ to neutral: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/6-panasonic-rp-hje120-surprisingly-usable.594945/page-3#post-13576623

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Installed Equalizer APO as recommended by /hpg/ a week ago
It made my sound crash every few hours

What non-broken free alternative should I use?

Rolling on the floor with my HD600. I hope I don't snap them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEtBsRWvOm8

>>61877136
The problem is you, not eapo. Fix yourself then worry about your software.
why did you post that ugly bitch

>>61876567
>HJE-120
thank you, I was specifically looking for exactly these features from a cheap set

>>61877136
The software isn't broken and there is no alternative. There's something unique about your PC causing this. Make sure your audio drivers are up to date. Make sure your BIOS is up to date. Maybe try a Windows repair install.

>>61873989
Meme for listening. For recording and mixing/mastering not so much, still overkill in most cases.

Do we look down on Bluetooth in ear earphones or headphones?
Looking into them for gym purposes, can't see any discussion or wiki

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So I've just noticed the surface of my earpads has started to disintegrate.
What should I do about this other than get new/better headphones?

>>61873966
it should auto install the drivers for you, then you just right click the volume icon in the system tray and open volume mixer -> device -> speakers and set the active playback device

>>61878309
New pads
>>61878297
KZ ZST/ZS3/ZS5 with KZ Bluetooth cable

What do you guys think of SoX resampler?
It is good for downsampling?
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/foobar-sox-resampler.467853/

>>61878309
replace the pads with velour/cloth/alcantara leather or real leather pads.

cheap protein leather/"pleather" needs to die in a fire

>>61878344
Resampler V has an improved implementation of SoX resampler. Its GUI shows you the effect of the settings on impulse response.

>>61878402
Is the SoX algorithm good for downsampling tho? The autism at headfi are using for upsampling.

https://www.amazon.com/BeyerDynamic-Generation-Audiophile-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B01JIL1VQS/

Is this a good deal? The headphones themselves are $1k at a lot of places and the amp seems like no slouch plus a case to boot?

>>61879093
Amp is complete trash, 100 ohm output impedance. If you do get it, keep the headphones and flip the amp.

>>61875052
No, those sound about as good as a Logitech setup.

>>61878424
Not him but yes, if you want to avoid using WASAPI because it only allows that one audio stream at a time you can instead use DirectSound and set your output to 44.1kHz then set the SoX resampler to downsample any audio that isn't 44.1kHz to that to avoid DS messing with the audio.

What's the practical difference between AHT M50X, 40X and 30X?

>>61880134
Between M40X and M50X, M40 is less V-Shaped and cheaper. Most usually say it's better and with the saved money, you can get better pads with it. M30X has a non detachable cable and is overshadowed by it's bigger brothers for being shit.

>>61880237
I'm thinking of getting the M40X. I've read they're comfortable and with good isolation. I will be listening primarily to voice recordings and occasionally light vidya (that pubg). And the price is right too.

How would the Sony XB950N1 fare against the MDR-1000X? If there's anything better within a $230-$300 price range, I prefer punchy bass (not synthetic and not so much that it drowns out other sounds) good mids and some bright, but not sibilant highs. One other priority would be noise cancelling, a closed back and something comfortable so they don't become a nuisance. Are ones that have the ability to improve audio quality by using aux cords a more better option? (Hi-Res Audio with Sony headphones)

>>61880180
You first.

I wanna start recording rap at home. Any resources about what mic/headphones I should buy for a hip hop home studio?

>>61872571
So err yeah, should I leave my 'expert' switch on my modi and keep 192k selected for everything? or switch it off and go back to 96k? I'd like to leave them on for the sake of audio autism but I still have no idea if I should or not.

>Budget / 80 - 100 euros
>Location / EU, Germany
>Source / Phone, laptop
>Type of headphone / Doesn't matter. Headphones are fine too if they don't look too bad.
>Open or closed / Closed as I want them for travelling and public area's. I have a pair of 598's for at home
>Comfort level / Bretty comfy pls
>Sound signature / flat or bassy

Are the dt770s one of the better closed back headphones in that price range? Any other models that are also comfy?

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Where did all the charts with recommended headphones in different price classes go? Used to be posted every thread.

Are the Fidelio X2HR any good? Worth the price?

Can somebody tell my the problem wiith beats ep??

>>61880868
>>61880951
if you're the same guy then yes, they are one of the better ones. One of the best looking too.

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I hate this, I just bought the same pair of headphones twice after thinking that the first ones we're defective, but these headphones have the same issues and their also buzzing with high base. It feels like my right ear has slightly more pressure on it, I don't know if there's something wrong with my goddamn right ear, but this is driving me insane, because I feel like the only headphones I can wear and enjoy are these shitty 2 dollar ones I've been using for the last year.

Had anyone replace the stock earpads on their SHP9500's with leather ones?
How do they fit? Where did you buy them? Do they effect the sound of the heaphones?

In asking as my stock cloth earphones are pretty worn and are absorbing pieces of hair.

>>61881067
No.

>>61881423
Should've just got an HD558.

>>61881418
Im not the same guy, im doing the request

>>61880868
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170813041149&SearchText=Takstar+PRO82

>>61881631
wtf. they are audio technica MSR7 copys..

>>61881743
Hardly

>>61881743
They're cosmetically similar, but they're not knock-offs of it

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>>61881423
Give this a try with warm water. My one ear was fucked for months and made listening horrible. One use of this cleared my ear 100%. It's designed for removing wax but non came out of my ears, but it worked wonders, whatever it did.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000SOJXGA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>61881985
Funny you mention this because I actually tried this a couple months ago when I got the first pair and it didn't help, but thanks for the suggestion.

>>61881454
The HD558's look nice, but they're nearly double the price here in Canada. Maybe if I save for a little longer I can afford them.

is the new revision of fidelio x2 worth it?If not, what do you guys recommend in that price range?

>>61882106

did you try using earwax softening drops first?

works like a champ. when i do it after not cleaning my ears out for a while, chunks of earwax come out. it's kinda gross.

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In this moment, I am euphonic.

Just bought a pair of ATH-M40x and M50x. The M50x are terrible. Why are they so hyped? The M40 are 50€ cheaper and way way better

>>61882831
They have a pretty big mid-bass gain so plebs/normies like them.

The m40x are much better overall.

I'm looking to get some new earpads for my ATH-M50x. The normals ones aren't thick enough or maybe my ears are too big
Anyone have any recommendations? I need to be able to get them in the UK or at least shipped to the UK

>>61883202
hm5's on amazon?

>>61883210
I'll have a look
thanks

>>61883269
These ones m8

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brainwavz-Replacement-Memory-Foam-Earpads/dp/B00MFDX4YO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1502635750&sr=8-2&keywords=hm5

If they fit you should love them, very T H I C C

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Daily AND friendly reminder to learn how to EQ and buy an amp with enough power to do so.
It has changed my life.

Also
>spotify family play
$15 for up to like 6 people. I share it with 2 friends so we pay $5 each.
320kbps jams
huge catalog
great music discovery features
I listen to far more music with it than with out. Try it niggy

I'm torn between the MEE audio M6 PRO and the Shure SE215.

I know about the KZ ZS5 but I'm willing to pay more if it's available on Amazon Prime so I can get it the next day instead of a month. I've also heard recommendations on things like the GR07 and the MK5 but there are some issues. GR07 is not available on Amazon, and I don't want an ear dildo MK5 because that will make it harder to use earmuffs on top when I need to for extreme noise isolation.

I would honestly be willing to spenhd more and get the SE535 if I could be certain it was worth it, but you can't demo IEMs in store or whatever unfortunately. All I have to go for is that it better have detachable cables, and that it has a good build so I can stop buying disposable earphones everytime that keep breaking.

>Budget
250€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Phone, PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Should be comfortable to wear for a few hours
>Sound signature
Don't care too much desu
>Past headphones
Sennheiser momentun in-ears
House of Marley positive vibrations

I'm willing to go slightly above my budget for a noticeable increase in quality.

>>61883906
I forgot to add, it will be used on my Fiio X3 so I can EQ down the heavy bass if I have to.

dunno how effective the EQ on an X3 will be, not to mention I don't really know how to EQ effectively in the first place.

If anyone with an X3 has success with that, I'm pretty much set on the Shures

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>>61882831
>m50x hyped
Because at one point in time they were really good for the price. That was a very long time ago. Ath did surely capitalize on the popularity.
>m40x sound better
Because they're more neutral, but keep in mind they are still colored AF. You could be getting much better sound than that.
>bought m40x+m50x
Definitely return the m50x. I'd suggest also returning the m40x and getting something actually decent, like the HD380 Pro or HD569, if it has to be closed, or maybe HD558 or HD579, if open is ok.

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Anybody have a portable speaker they're happy with?

>>61884065
>Return your mildly colored cans for even more colored Sennheiser cans with worse bass and no highs
:^)

>>61884009
https://www.amazon.de/Sennheiser-569-ohrumschließendes-geschlossenes-matt-schwarz/dp/B01L1IIF1A/

>>61884065 >>61882831
As a reminder, always ignore DiPolarDisorder when he's talking about Sennheiser.

Reason, about half of his past posts are anti-sennheiser shitposting.

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>>61884154
So who exactly buys headphones that measure like this again? Oh I remember, fucking idiots.

>>61884154
That's probably because 75% of /hpg/ is Sennheiser shilling from anons that don't even own them, "everything that isn't Sennheiser is bad" shitposting, blanket recommendations for Sennheiser cans that are 3x the posters requested price range, and useless samefag calls by shillheisers who are paranoid of the tripfag.

>>61884223
Why would people shill something they don't own?

>>61884154
>HES POSTING AGAIN FUCK I HAVE TO STOP THIS
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61884223 >>61884176
You're part of the problem.

>>61882106
Don't. Spend your money on the SHP9500S instead. The HD 558 is nowhere near worth buying in Canada

>>61884223
>>61884176
Since the only rec I got (>>61884009 this anon) is Sennheiser, do you happen to have better options?

>>61884176
Not a bad measurement, did Sennheiser murder your family or something? You have a serious grudge.

>>61884235
Because there are a bunch of amateur "acoustics experts" in these threads. Literally NEETs who can't afford the headphone, but will actively shill for it because they read 1-2 graphs and say "wow that's a good measurement!" according to their poor understanding of audio technology so they proceed to recommend them every chance they have while never owning or even hearing the headphone before. That's why you also have

a. The person who posts the 2 non conclusive and utterly useless studies on the audibility of harmonic distortion (mostly because they think those two studies out of the dozens that conclude otherwise fits their narrative)
b. The guy screaming about hrtf and the harman curve as a reference to how a headphone should measure even though every other audio manufacturer realizes how stupid it is to make a headphone measure to a loudness curve.

>>61884009
>closed headphones <250€ ~germany
>>61884261
>better
Different, perhaps. More neutral is generally better, but it will really depend on preference, and you didn't specify any.
>Sennheiser
HD569
HD380 Pro
HD280 Pro
(Specifically to avoid: HD598Cs)
>Sony
mdr-7506
mdr-cd900st
>Audio Technica
ath-msr7

>>61882106
>The HD558's look nice, but they're nearly double the price here in Canada. Maybe if I save for a little longer I can afford them.
>Canada
bookmark redflagdeals next time. Both the HD558 and the HD598 went on sale a while ago. Bestbuy and Amazon.
https://forums.redflagdeals.com/best-buy-sennheiser-hd-558-99-97-final-clearance-2101210/

You also missed the newegg.ca sale on the SHP9500S more recently.

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>>61884296
>not a bad measurement

>>61884065
>Returning the M40x for HD380 Pros
Stop. Your advice is shit.

>>61884330
Alright, I will check those out. Thank you!

>>61884330
598Cs are the same as the 569, just an Amazon exclusive thing

>>61884338
reminder this pleb doesn't even own headphones just some outdated speakers in a dingy room that looks like an abandoned office

>>61873989
192KHz is a scam.
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

>>61884330
Aren't the HD 569s just rebranded 598 Cs'?

>>61884409
>Outdated speakers
Nigga, what?

>Budget
£100, can stretch over
>Location
UK
>Source
Straight into PC, also phone/mp3 player
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed/Comfort level/Past headphones
Currently have a pair of Monoprice cheap headphones that were recommended on /g/ a long time ago, can't remember the make. My biggest problem with them has been them pressing on my glasses near the ears causing pain. Would prefer closed but if that's a problem with all closed then I have no choice. Comfort is pretty important.

Even without recommendations just knowing whether the glasses pain is avoidable would be nice.

>>61884065

nah probably gonna return the m50x and keep the m40x, already have a HE400S for home use

>>61884409
>Outdated speakers
>Timeless, state of the art design using the best tweeter and mid seas ever made (the equivalent models are hundreds of shekels today and measure no different)
>Designer is famous in audio circles
>Crossovers and woofers replaced and modernized
>Shills headphones made in 1997
>Implying I don't own 2 pairs of $300+ iems and 3 of the best budget cans you can buy currently, and havent owned planar magnetics
>Implying you aren't fucking cancer.

>>61884663
He400s are patrician. The m40x are nice, keep them.

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I just ordered these
Did I get memed again?

>>61884409
>Doesn't own headphones
>Shills a headphone he doesn't even own
>Outdated speakers
>Headphones designed in 1997

t.hypocrite.

>>61884395
No, they are not. FR do not even look similar to each other.

>>61884703
I didn't know they made gaming headsets

>>61884418
Go to >>61884724

>>61884703
>gaming headset
You've likely fucked up just because of that, but
>open audio technica
Known to lack any semblance of bass. Sennheiser are so much better at doing open cans.

>>61884762
Why even bring Sennheiser up?

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>>61884762
>Sennheiser are so much better
>Sennheiser
>better at anything

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>>61884724
They're the same.

>>61880608
Beats.

>>61884762
I got a headset because I despise desk unless you are an actual professional. And these seems to have all around good quality and not razer tier design

>>61884762
>weak bass

Let me guess, every graph that shows the weak bass of Sennheisers open cans is poorly sealed?

>>61880951
No, they are not.
>>61880868
ATH-M40x

>>61884855
>I despise desk
That's fine.
>good around good quality
Maybe. Or maybe not. But the question is, how does it stack against non-headset headphones of the same price?
Generally, headsets are very low value for the money, which is why we recommend getting modmics and such instead. See the OP links for details.

>>61883547
>12 dB ear-raping treble spike of death
Must be a Beyerdynamic.

>>61884899
Not anon, but DT990s, to be exact. Only ear rapey when not run properly. But they are bright

>>61884223
That's because the best open headphones under $100 are HD558, the best open headphones between $100 and $200 are HD579 and the best open headphones between $200 and $300 are HD600, and in none of these cases is it even really very close. Thus, it's only natural that Sennheisers will be recommended often here.
The Sennheiser recommendations are simply people making good recommendations and the anti-Sennheiser hate is just 4chan being autstically contrarian like 4chan tends to do to anything that gets too popular.

>>61884924
>Only ear rapey when not run properly.
Describe the electrical mechanics behind one transparent amp producing less treble response through a DT990 than a different transparent amp. Protip: you can't, because these mechanics don't exist. Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.

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Look at what hifiman owners are doing to fix the treble spikes, sad!

>>61884314
DiPolar, nobody has posted studies demonstrating a correlation between THD measurements and audibility of distortion. Saying "nuh uh, you're wrong, lots of other studies say so" without posting said other studies and quoting relevant excerpts from said studies is not convincing rhetoric. You have been shown several peer-reviewed studies with relevant excerpts quoted demonstrating that THD measurements are not a reliable indicator of distortion audibility and you have not effectively rhetorically countered this.

>>61884944
Half the Sennheiser shills don't even own the headphones they shill for. Please stop.
>Best open headphones under $100
>HD 558
>Not SHP9500S
Stop shilling so hard

>>61884944
>Being this fucking retarded

>>61885029
HD558 have replaceable, less sweat-inducing earpads and better bass response than SHP9500S. They're considerably better.

>>61885014
>thinks I'm the tripfag
>THD DUN MEAN ANYTHING
>MY MEME STUDIES CANT BE RHETORICALLY COUNTERED #REKT

you're a fucking idiot. Just stop.

>>61884973
Why don't you stop being such a poorfag, buy something more powerful than your shitty portable amp and compare them?

>>61885029
>SHP9500S
These are too bright sounding. The earpads are itchy and glued to the headphones.
Thus worse than HD558, but they're often recommended by Sennhaters just because.

>>61885055
>MY MEME STUDIES CANT BE RHETORICALLY COUNTERED
I didn't say that. I said they haven't been, which is accurate.

>>61885014
>Tripfag buried you in articles where thd was a relevant and important measurement
>still being this buttblasted about it.

>>61884985
Who are you talking to?

>>61885074
didn't the tripfag post 10 different studies with much more citations that used thd as a measurement?
Doesn't every single audio equipment manufacturer use thd as a measurement of fidelity?

>>61885075
That was a gish gallop. He made no attempt to quote relevant excerpts from the studies because he didn't read the studies himself. That was not effective rhetoric, it was logically fallacious rhetoric.

>>61885014
Why don't you stop being so retarded and just buy the headphones you're shilling for?

>>61885075
>articles where thd was a relevant and important measurement
Not even one. And THD being correlated to perceived sound is been debunked by linked-to-death AES paper.
Tripfag should stop shitposting his long debunked garbage.

>>61885081
potential hifiman victims

>>61884985
>Hifiman cans have no treble!
>Hifiman cans have such peaky treble they need to be padded...?!

¿Which is it? Gotta make up your mind brah

>>61885097
>Debunked
>By one paper
>In contrast to a few dozen
>Still used as a measurement in playback equipment

Fuck dude, does it hurt being that retarded? Keep linking it, no one believes you obviously.

>>61885045
>Considerably better
The HD 558's bass is meh and muddies up the mids. They don't sound that nice

>>61885029
>stop shilling senns

>simultaneously trusty fuck shilling

get out

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>>61885070
I'm the anon that originally said that and I stand by it. Listening to a song back to back, once on the 1.2v dragonfly black and once on the 7v fx audio dac x6 and they sound horrible on the dragonfly with screechy scratchy sibilant treble and just nice and bright on the fx audio.
Best part is the dac x6 is cheaper than the dragonfly.
Nice cheap amps for 250ohm beyers:
magni 2
dac x6
micca origen+

>>61885086
At no point did he quote relevant excerpts from the studies demonstrating a consistent correlation between THD measurements and perceived audibility of distortion. The central point he was attempting to refute is that THD measurements are not a reliable indicator of audibility and he made absolutely zero attempt to refute this central point. He just spammed a bunch of links tangentially related to THD without even reading them and comically claimed "there this debunks you," because he is a shitposter and this is the kind of thing shitposters do.
"This study uses THD measurements therefore THD measurements must be reliable indicators of audibility" is clearly a logical fallacy and not effective rhetoric.
I invite anyone to provide a study and quote relevant exerpt(s) from it which refute the central point of >>61874508
Nobody has done so yet.

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>>61885099
spike at 9k, treble is all over the place though

>>61885097
>If I keep linking the same study, the only one that says harmonic distortion is irrelevant to audio, they'll eventually take my word for it!
>Distortion is good! Distortion is your friend! Ignore the fact that everyone else agrees it's audible at certain levels!

>>61885123
>by one paper
Welcome to science. A counterexample is all it takes to destroy an assumption.
>>Still used as a measurement in playback equipment
Not an argument

>>61885072
They're clipped on. Stop saying that.
>Too bright
That's personal preference. The HD 558s have bloaty bass that muddies up the mids. I can hear more with the SHP9500S than with the HD 558

>>61885132
Either your dragonfly is faulty or that's confirmation bias in action. Those are both transparent amps and there are no electrical mechanics which would cause the dragonfly to produce more treble through the DT990 than the DAC X6.

>>61885074
>More THD is better
stop.

>>61885179
>confusing earrape treble with detail

>>61885093
>>61885097
>More THD is better
S T O P

>>61885183
okay its not like im selling 990s. doesnt affect me if people run them off trash decade old fiio's

>>61884412
That's not what I care about really, I already own the dac and have the drivers installed. I just want to know if leaving them on will have a negative affect. It sounds the same to me so I might just leave 192k on for the sake of it? why not.

new thread

>>61885232

>>61885232

>>61885232

>>61885232

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>>61885221 >>61885196
Who ever said this nonsense?
That's not even a strawman, it is just a plain lie.

>>61885098
Don't you also do this with Beyer owners? Stop. You're shitting up the thread.

>>61885238 new thread

>>61885237
>anime
>before mine by a few seconds
That's OK; I'll delete mine instead of try to compete like the autists have been doing lately.

>>61885244 >>61885256
You're late. Don't forget to delete.

>>61885154
>ONE PAPER SAYS OTHERWISE SO ITS TRUE THATS HOW SCIENCE WORKS!
>In contrast to everyone else

Yeah, those 3% of scientists who deny climate change are also right because they say so.

Literally not how science works you fucking dipshit.

Also new thread >>61885225

>>61885243
Never heard Beyers, I only comment on items I have first hand experience with.

>>61885130
>Recommending SHP9500S' over mudheisers = TrustyFuck shilling
Go back to fighting your boogeyman you shill

>>61885271
>bumping a perfectly good thread off of /g/ for a redundant shitposting thread
Sasuga, shitposter.

>>61885139
>More THD is better
You dig this hole every time

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>>61885310
That's a strawman, not a peer-reviewed study with a relevant excerpt quoted which refutes the central point of >>61874508

>>61885277
>he continues to shill
the treble on the shp9500 may have fried your brain cells

>>61885154
>More THD is better
no

>>61885198
>I can hear more detail
>Treble rape
>SHP9500S
GO back to your mud cannons

>>61885341
>Unironically recommending mud cannons
Do you even own the headphones you shill for?

>>61885349 >>61885310
>more THD is better
No. Neither is less. Read the paper FFS. It explicitly attacks the idea of there being a correlation.

>>61885420
Less is better though. Distortion is bad because well *drumroll*

It's DISTORTION. The lower the harmonic distortion the more faithfully it reproduces the source. The paper attacks it, shows no conclusive evidence, and then sniffs its own farts by saying there is no correlation.

Meanwhile, every other study says otherwise and you will continue to be a complete fucking idiot.

>>61885412
>Do you even own the headphones you shill for?
When have I shilled the HD558? I'm just pointing out your own shilling. As I said, the treble may have fried your brain cells

And yes, I do own HD558s

>>61885141
>posts graph of the old revision 400i
New revsion 400i is bright as shit. So I wonder if a new graph would look more worse.

>>61885309
>Doesn't fit my narrative
>Isn't cringy anime weeb shit.

LE SHITPOSTING

>>61885420
>Neither is less
No, less is better. Any sort of distortion is inaccurate and should in no way be ignored.

>>61885420
>Neither is less

So water isn't wet?

>>61885472
Have fun with your muddy bass and baby ears, I guess

>>61885420
Retard

>>61885271
The fringe position would be to suggest THD has a 1:1 relation to sound quality.
The goal of the paper is to suggest a simple weighting metric.

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>>61886009
Anon

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