/hpg/ - Headphone General

Bought the headphones in the OP on sale for 50 dollars with free shipping. They came in last night and I am impressed.

Definitely the best budget headphones I've owned.

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>>61750068
So I just recently got a new pair of Beyerdynamic headphones and I'm loving it, but I'm still constantly switching back and forth between audio inputs for different purposes.

I'd like a hotkey or something to make it faster. What should I do for that? I'd like to just do something natively; there seem to be a lot of little programs for it, but I try not to get a thousand tiny purpose-built things like that.

>>61750285
too bad about the glued-on earpads, just because it's cheap shouldn't mean it should be treated as disposable. I still dont understand why

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>>61750068

I am a house waifu in training /g/, and I love wearing my headset and doing chores, listening to music or audio books from my pc. I know they make wireless headphones, but I want to have one that does it all; chat and listen. I don't need exceptional audio quality or exceptional mic. I tend to use the PX3 turtle beach, I dont know what it is about it, but i can go very far from the source and still get audio, even to around the outside of the home, garage, upstairs and downstairs, It will cover a whole small apartment with ease. But these headsets are out of print and the refurbished ones are starting to last less and less as the housing tears from wear and travel.

Does anyone else have some advice for wireless headsets that have great distance? Google fu seems worthless in this regard. People are more concerned about their audio settings and the quality of the frequency in high wifi environments.

Let me know what you've bought and if you have any advice.

>mandatory perimeters
>Budget
The cheaper the better, I dont need a high end set, just a long distance one that isn't like buying a used car.
>Location
Burgerstan
>Source
USB seems mandatory for wireless headphones with good range
>Type of headphone
PC headset, two ear pieces, comfortable to wear for hours and hours, overear muff prefered
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Not perfect but no insertable headphones. I can wear PX3's for hours, I'd like the same for performance
>Sound signature
Audio quality is not 100% important other than it plays audio and doesn't spike the audio.
>Past headphones
PX3, shitty wired headphones all under 10 dollars.

Additionally, outside microphone rather than in built will be preferable if expensive. mic volumne from surrounding noise is somewhat of a deal to me. Ultimately though I am focused on range, please know enough about the range of a suggestion that you can give me some kind of idea of how many rooms or feet you can receive away from source

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>>61749972
you just gotta make your own

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What's the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61750068
I'm responding because you posted my headphones.

They're great, had them for years, found NOTHING since which has compared in terms of comfort.

>>61750068
>>61750787
The comfiest, best sounding cans under $100.

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>>61750784
Elear, but they're about twice as expensive as they should be

>>61750784
is this the new joke in town? because people keep shitpositng it.

>>61750342
They're clipped on.

>>61750844
No sennheisers are the new joke in town

>>61750838
What signature do these have ? I assumed they were a new head fi meme, and they looked a little tacky at first, but apparently they're actually good?

>>61751075
It's Focal, if you don't know who they are you're too immersed in the headphone world. They make great speakers. I have a pair.

The signature is very very neutral, like the HD600/650.

No niggerbass, no bloat, no pleb smile.

Tards who listen to dubstep and anime tunes will no doubt think they sound boring.

If they were like $500 I'd be all over them but $1k is too much for any headphones. I could upgrade my bedroom speaker system for that.

>>61751154
>>61751075
Focal doesn't fuck around with speakers. Some of the best in the industry, grande Utopias are on the list of many audiophiles "if I win the lottery" lists.
https://www.focal.com/en/home-audio/high-fidelity-speakers/utopia-iii/floorstanding-speakers/grande-utopia-em

>Budget
£100 at an absolute maximum. I'd rather spend £60-70
>Location
UK/England
>Source
PC, via a Trio KA-300 amp that is about 40 years old.
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed, and they have to be very closed. I don't mind about sound leaking in to me, but my sound can't leak out.
>Comfort level
maximum. 7-8hrs a day solid wearing. I will be wearing them at home, never out of the house so it doesn't matter how stupid they look, as long as they're comfortable.
>Past headphones
Currently wearing some Sennheiser HD428 that I got 6+ years ago. They work, but they're becoming less and less comfortable as the padding wears out.

I don't want/need studio quality sound, but something a little nicer than the Sennheisers I currently use would be nice I suppose. Comfort, closed-ness and longevity ultimately the most important.

Many thanks folks, appreciate any help. I've had a quick google but I'm really not sure what to look for.

>>61751316
Also I don't know if this is a given/common feature, but I based on how/where I sit I would much much much prefer the cable to connect to the side of the phones

What is a good amp for the AKG 712s? I'm in the UK and I'd like something relatively cheap.

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>>61750068
>NO ANIME
>SNAPHEISER TROLL
>PHILIPS SHILL TROLL
FAKE THREAD

DO NOT POST TO THIS THREAD!

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>>61751369
Best budget headphones coming through :^)

There's nothing to can do about that, you silly Snapheiser OP ;^)

>>61751369
>WWAAAHHHHHHH ITS NOT A SHILLHEISER THREAD SO IM ANGERRYYYYYYYY

:^)

>>61751369
Your disgusting anime child pornography is the reason I generally avoid these threads. I try not to be judgmental about what you people jack off to but I really don't want to have it shoved in my face just because I want to talk about gear.

I for one welcome this new style of headphone threads.

>>61751369
Hope you enjoy your stay, anon

>>61751465
The world is a better place without the waifu and anime shitposting. I get that 4chan started out as an anime site, but those people belong in >>>/a/

>>61751347
Define "cheap"

For the most part there's no point in buying an amp for less than $150 or so. Back in the good old days before headphone amps became fashionable buying a headphone amp - any headphone amp - was a pretty safe bet you'd get something better than your iPhone. Not so these days, too much me-too cash grab crap.

The cheapest amp anyone should even consider is an O2.

>>61751491
I don't mind anime at all, it's just fucking gross when I open /g/ and there's a cartoon of a barely clothed pre-pubescent girl spreading her legs wearing a g-string. Like, what the fuck people. I get that we're supposed to be lolsorandum: the site, but that stuff belongs on /b/.

>Budget
100-150$
>Location
Spain
>Source
Laptop
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Medium-high
>Sound signature
Warm, nice middles
>Past headphones
Shure SRH80 and Sony MDR-1R (love these)

>>61751539
Shure SRH840*

>>61751512
Under 100 dollars is cheap. I just need some thing to drive the AKGs and make then sound better than my MDR-1As

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Can I use the headphone DAC/amp in my mixer to drive headphones or am I better off getting a separate DAC/amp?

The specs for the headphone out read "75ohm output impedance, >105mW into 75 ohms, >40mW into 600 ohms". Is that any good?

Also, what are some good alternatives to the K702s that are in the same price range or lower, open backed, comfy for 16+ hour a day wear, and have a detachable cable? It seems nothing beats the K702s.

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>>61751945
That doesn't get rid of the shillheiser posters though.

>>61751986
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>>61751945
>Cancer free
>Doesn't realize he's more cancerous than the tripfag

>>61751945
>Spamming the same shit that shits up the thread
At least you're committed, anon

>>61751790
Scavenge random components out of dumpsters and build your own SET amp

Hey /hpg/. Can somebody recommend me a good portable media player? I've already taken care of my headphone needs, but am sick of using my phone for everything. I don't really want to go over ~$100-200, need FLAC support, and would strongly prefer SD/microSD support.

>>61751945
No worries you shit-tier autistic fuckwit, I'll continue to give better advice and recommendations than you ever will :^)

>>61751945
I'm sorry you weren't able to spam "What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?" anon. No worries, everyone gets mad once in awhile.

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>>61752064

>>61752063
Xduoo x3 seems like a tight fit, well below $100 but supports flac.

>>61752088
>using images made after the Reddit invasion of 4chan

>>61752088
Lmao. Did you have fun being BTFO'd last general?
>>61741278

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>>61750068
mmm... these look sexy. are they sexy? Hott . . .

I snagged an ATH-M40x last weekend on Amazon for 80 bucks (20% off) but my order's been "preparing for shipment" for five fucken days. It better SHIP soon. If it auto-cancels after 30 days imma flip... cause that was a RARE snag. I'll just complain directly to Audio-Technica (the retail price was lowered on their site too during that time) if Amazon decides to f•ck me over. Surely they'll do the rite thing . . . but of course I'm just theorizing . . . just never seen it TAKE so LONG to SHIP something out. It's like they PURPOSEFULLY DELAY IT when you don't have PRIME. Like a SECOND CLASS CITIZEN ova' 'ea. Also the ENTRY for the m40x wasn't SHOWING UP in SEARCHES during that time. Like they're HIDING the deal. 'the f•ck's up with that . . . 'tsall very fishy . . .

>>61752002
>>61752027
>>61752064
>>61752086
Please remember to keep your trip on at all times, thanks

>>61752088
Haha funny maymay dude :^) too bad that doesn't apply at all to this situation and you're just mad that more people take my advice.

>>61752113
At least HD600 guy starts proper /hpg/s with anime OPs.

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>>61752152
Hahahahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAA FUCKING GET REKT

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>>61752152
Reminder not to be so autistic and buttmad

>>61752177
>anime OPs
>proper start to anything

>>61752177
t. Sennshill anime OP

k stop the DRAMA and make me feel BETTER about my m40x's pls !!!!!!
& by god if they send me the retarded 'limited edition matte gray' imma bug out

>>61752178
>phoneposter

>>61752267
Compared to what? The shills and shitposting running amok?

>>61752229
You bought a fairly neutral headphone that's easily serviceable for $70.

>>61752267
>Caring about phone posting
>Implying you're not mad about being BTFO'd over your false samefag call

>>61752283
hmmm... u made a fairly neutral post
& thats why i bought em actually . . .
but seventy dollars ??? seems steep...
o well u kewl in my book :]

>>61752324
Enjoy them anon! If you need music recommendations let me know!

>>61751919

pls respond

>>61751919
As long as you get a fairly sensitive (low impedence) set of headphones volume from the mixer should be absolutely fine.

>>61752423
Phillips shp9500s are $50, open back, comfy, detachable cable, and fairly easy to drive.

>>61750950
Yeah go on give me a link then lad. What's delivery cited as? They're on Gearbest too for £18, but I'd pay a little extra if it meant having them earlier

>>61752475
Extremely easy to drive

they can work even with an old Nintendo DSI

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>found fancy headphones at thrift store for $10, marked "broken"
>buy it, maybe it's a simple fix.
>was able to find problem quick.

…how do I deal with *this*?

>>61753367
New drivers.

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What are some good heaphones for gaming and listening to music in public (ex. transit). I owned a V-Moda Crossfade LP a while back and they did a solid job. Sold it since it got a tear on the headband (was super sloppy on my end because I took for granted how durable they were, only a matter of time till it happened). Budget is below $400.

>>61753367
order a replacement driver from sennheiser

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why fiio cutest chinkfi manufacturer

>>61753453
If you didn't mind how bulky the V-Modas were, then OPPO PM-3 or Monoprice Monolith M560.

>>61753416
Blargh. I did see one "fix" that called for lifting the diaphragm and undoing a turn of the wire.

$90 for a new driver. Considering I got it for $10, probably more worth my time to sell it. Question now is as a whole, or individual parts?

>>61751369
And that's how I bought my pair of 9500s

Are "Alpha pads" (https://www.mrspeakers.com/shop/accessories/ear-pads/alpha-pads-genuine-lamb-leather.html) worth the hassle and price? I'm in Canada.

I was thinking of just going for this (https://www.amazon.ca/Brainwavz-Sheepskin-Memory-Foam-Earpad/dp/B01J53KM32/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) since it's Amazon and I have prime.

Not to say that the SRH1540 aren't fantastic and immensely comfortable, but I'd like to try something with a better seal than perforated alcantara. I also imagine that leather would be easier to keep clean.

Would the Fulla 2 be enough for the HD600 or am I better off getting the Magni 2?

>>61753673
>hd 600
buy a multibit dac if you're going for the meme setup

>>61753696
Not what I asked.

>>61753704
Lol his answer was no and now you're getting pissy. Fuck off nigger

>>61753696
The usual shill answer would be to go for the Fulla 2, but I would play it safe and go for the Magni 2. Better safe than sorry; some have reported it to sound this. Not sure what volume, though.

>>61753852
>This
*Thin

>>61753673
I can drive HD600s just fine straight from the motherboard

>>61753893
That's a pretty large gamble. What motherboard?

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Friendly reminder that I own a HD800 and probably make more money in a day than most of you make in a week.

>>61753367
HD 580/600 driver? Or HD 650?
Also, USA?

>>61753673
If you can spend a bit more go for the modi multibit + vali 2. I listened to Schiit's whole lineup and this was the sweet spot for me.

Template:

>Budget
40 dollars or less
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Pretty comfy
>Past headphones
Cheap sony headphones that cost like 20 bucks

I want headphones for FPS gaming on my pc. Want to be able to identify footsteps and gunshots easier.

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>>61750068
Hey what do you guys think of rtings.com? At first I saw their suggested products(beats/bose all over) and immediately thought garbge paid ads but they actually have measurements and what looks like a good testing rig.
I guess its possible beats improved their headphones over the years. They say they have great bass and lower mid reproduction but treble is dog shit.
Here is their dt990 measurements which, considering they're literally on my head right now, seem good.
Decent review source y/n?

>>61754078
This general doesn't really like rtings, but I don't really have any issue with them

>>61754113
Would you say its safe to assume their measurements are correct and a good source to use while window shopping?

>>61754078
Beats have improved over the years but they still fall flat in a few areas such as
>The aesthetic
>The build quality
>Fairly muddy sound signature
The price/performance is fairly low on them. That being said, the second iteration of them certainly improved performance over the first which were absolutely trash. I'd say they're just darker sounding now.

Rtings is a great website though. They take a good approach to reviews and I like that they put a number value behind what they rate for comparison.

Would the Monoprice amp be better than the Fulla 2 for 300 OHM headphones?

>>61754177
If you need power than a fulla 2 your best choices are a hi-fi me diy sabre dac(i might have the name wrong but its a really fucking good dac for the price) and a magni 2 at the high end of the price spectrum, micca origen+ in the middle, and fx-audio dac x6 at the low end.
Having used the dac x6 I can vouch for it and answer any questions and I'm sure other people could do the same for the magni.

>>61754147
I use other websites, but I see no issue with rtings

>>61754238
>>61754169
>>61754113
Thanks guys. My next question is at what point would spotify premium(320 opus) stop being transparent? Is it transparent on hd598/dt990 class headphones?
I have some of my favorite music in flac from rutracker but I'm not on any of the private trackers and don't wish to be. I have 5 more months of tidal free and it has some stuff but I only pay $5 for spotify.

>>61753673
I own all three and the magni as an amp drives them slightly better than the fulla 2. The fulla sounds slightly flatter and less detailed than the magni. I use the fulla 2 as my dac, or you can buy the modi as your dac and have less features.

>>61754276
Spotify premium will be perfectly transparent for that setup. Only on repeated material would you possibly notice the difference between lossy and lossless if the lossy files are 320kb/s.

Spotify should have a premium lossless streaming service soon. Best advice is to avoid paying for tidal. I have a few years free because of the Sprint voucher shenanigans, but I refuse to give my money to a company that supports the garbage known as MQA

>>61754276
>Only on repeated material would you possibly notice the difference between lossy and lossless if the lossy files are 320kb/s.
Seconding

>>61754345
What do you two mean by repeated material? Like if I did an A/B test?
also: the bose qc35 while really expensive actually looks like an awesome headphone considering how portable it is

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOCqN96eEgo
Looks like gayboy did something actually neat, neat.

>>61754416
As in stuff you've listened to for a few months or even years repeatedly. Music you default to in a listening session. That's the only way it's discernible, because I'm sure you have certain recording artifacts, little details like musicians saying things softly in quiet passages or scuffing the floor with their chairs, things along those lines. Compression may ruin those things, but it's stuff that's only picked up after listening to that track at least a few times usually more.

>>61754416
>Bose
Possible botnet
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bose-lawsuit-idUSKBN17L2BT

Is a clip+ worth it for $115? Looking for a new pmp and seeing there is no /pmp/ right now

>>61754536
That's expensive as fuck, even considering how awesome the clip is.

Consider the xduoo x3.

>>61754522
holy shit thats hilarious
>>61754536
I bought a moto e for $12 because it has great battery life and a second hand dragon fly black for $60 and I feel like it's going to sound better than a clip+. That's a ton of money for something so simple man

>>61754078
They're learning and open to discussion. From what I see, they do not seem to have a general intuition gained by long experience but are willing to experiment.

The first and most important problem is the lack of industry standardization of headphone measurements. As is common to this industry, Rtings is trying to come up with a better way to convey "audio quality". The gist of this is that the "frequency response measurements" seen on Rtings is not standard, and requires some adjustment when trying to compare it to another website, such as innerfidelity.

The second problem is even with a standard information layout, the equipment has distinct inaccuracies and failures in modeling. Even though the equipment costs tens of thousands of dollars, it still has a few differences from a typical human head. Sometimes, the difference can be significant. Rtings is aware of this part, and they are trying to update their current methods and data with a new methodology.


>>61754276
>what point would spotify premium(320 opus) stop being transparent
That is not the best way to ask that question. It doesn't have very much to do with your headphones, unless the headphone response were so severely skewed that it defeated the intended error shaping and masking model used.
So, the answer to that is *never*. You will not find a headphone or speaker good enough to make lossy coding more obvious than what it already is.

The real answer is that the ability to detect artifacts will depend on the method used to analyze audio and distribute, the audio data that is used, and your ability to recognize when the combination goes wrong (codec, track, listener).

>>61754561
>>61754558
On /pmp/ everyone would jerk off to how good the clip+ is, any recs that I could just grab on Amazon real quick?

>>61754613
What headphones are you going to be powering with it

>>61754613
If I had $100 I would buy the xDUO x3 but I think it's only storage is SD cards. Two big ones would be expensive but you could just throw a $10 32gb in it for now.

>>61754756
>>61754664
I have some AKG K7XX's from Massdrop but am planning to pick up some new earbuds for public use

>>61753921
gigabyte ga-x58a-ud3r

>>61754536
>worth it
Inherently subjective. Figure it out yourself.
But, I wouldn't go anywhere near the the Clip+ now.
General notes:

-Very small, very light.
-Cheaply made.
-Rockbox feature suite
-Below average voltage output.
-Low Z out, capable of output into low Z loads
-Higher than average noise floor, particularly for balanced armatures

Is form factor the primary priority? Sound quality? Or something else?

>new thread
faggot OP

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my headphones are see through

https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

>>61754536
just get the FiiO X1 or X3 at that price range.

The Sandisk Clip+ was only ~$30 new before discontinuation. That was a great value since there was Rockbox support for it.

Don't bother with the newer Clip Jam either. Never going to get Rockbox support because of limitations. It's over for the Clip unfortunately.

>>61754792
I don't think you're going to be able to drive those with a clip they need like 51mw into 62 ohms if I remember correctly but of course if you pick up some IEMs that'll be no problem.
The xDUOO x3 looks awesome to me at $100 and it's listed with prime shipping right now. Throw in whatever SD card you can afford.
I think you need a pretty powerful portable amp to push the k7xx like maybe the dragonfly red or something. You'll need to check specs

>>61754831
wow this song is so relaxing and it sounds great. What is it?

How come the Magni sounds so bad when it puts out a ton of clean power, even up to 600 ohms?

>>61754997
bad relative to what?

The screen shot in
>>61748080
said that 2 of the 4 drivers in the KZ SZ5 are "essentially fake" -- are they?

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I feel for the audioquest dragonfly meme. I have the shure se 215 but i have a shit audio drive. B-but this shit is too expensive! What a better concorrent for him? Something small too.

>>61755020
Relative to more expensive amps like Brystons or Audio-gds.

Electrically speaking, I don't understand what makes different amplifiers sound 'better' or 'worse'.

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Why does her voice sound so fucking good coming out of the dt990?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmOHQsCg92w
>inb4 autotune

>>61754850
What's the difference between the two? I like the way the X1 looks, but the X3 seems to have more features. Is the X3 worth it?

>>61754169
>Rtings is a great website though. They take a good approach to reviews and I like that they put a number value behind what they rate for comparison.

delete this

>>61755039
>I don't understand what makes different amplifiers sound 'better' or 'worse'.
Filters, output impedance, and expectation bias. The magni is good in the first two regards, so it's the third.

>>61755093
>Is the X3 worth it?
It's got a more powerful amp, an entire socket for the line out, and I think that's pretty much it.

>>61755102
It's good, but more expensive amps must be better in that regard. They wouldn't be more expensive if they offered no empirical benefits. Right...?

I can easily blind test the difference after volume matching, so I am trying to understand the science behind it. I guess there must be some distortion, because the Magni after all is a cheap, $99 device.

>>61755143
There are no measurements for the magni so it's pointless to speculate either way. I'd suggest you try blind testing against something with measurements, maybe an O2 of something.

>>61755143
>I can easily blind test the difference after volume matching
How is the test set up?

>>61751919
I ran my HD280's off my Alesis. When I got 300ohm headphones, I bought a separate amp. Then it became clear how noisy the mixer was, and the built-in dac wasn't that great. Now it's on the other end of an a/b switch where it gives me no troubles while I listen to an external dac.

>>61754851
>Dragonfly Red
>K7XX
That's not going to driven for shit. An A5 MIGHT be able to drive them.

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>>61753966
Fine choice, anon.

>>61755180
If you mean a fiio A5 then you're way off, the k7xx's have a sensitivity of 105 decibels at 62 ohms, that's not terribly hard to drive.

>>61755216
>magni with an hd800
you're gross

>>61754851
>need like 51mw
They don't need some arbitrarily selected power input. The user defines what playback level they want and sets the electrical requirements in accordance.
The obsession with power is undeserved. Headphones are defined by voltage drive. Power can only be appropriately used if the headphones impedance is nearly constant. Other than planar dynamics and coil dynamic in-ears, this is not the case.


>>61755024
How did they come up with that claim?
Where was that screenshot taken from?
Whether there are more drivers or not isn't particularly important to sound quality though. Doesn't matter.

>>61752178
are you 12?

>>61754873
anime-ost/bakabt/Ghost in the Shell Music Collection [FLAC]/MEGATECH BODY.CD/08 - The Searcher Part II.flac

https://chiru.no/?songhistory

>>61755289
No, but that anon was certainly btfo'd

>>61755321
no

>>61755372
yes :^)

>>61755287
Isn't it generally agreed upon that 110db gives you enough headroom for quiet recordings and maybe some eq and so is a good target to look for?
My beyers reach a decent volume on shitty sources like my phone and motherboard but I swear the sound goes to shit, the treble gets even worse. On my amp that can do like 30 something mw into their 250ohm they sound much better and I can eq.

>>61755372
>Claims samefag
>Isn't samefag
>Gets fucking BTFO'd

This is simple :^)

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So I'm looking at these M1060s and they're everything I want from the price to the sound to the style... mostly. My biggest issue is the headband. I find this style of headband ugly as shit. Is there a way to replace it with something more subtle and normal looking?

Anyone have any experience with these they wanna tell me about?

I received my K7xx from Massdrop on Thursday and have been using them for the last couple of days, and although they're decent, I can easily say that my HD650s are much better. Out of the box they're more comfortable, at least. I forgot that the K7xx series had the elastic band mechanism, and I guess I'll be SOL once they fail. Still not bad for the price point, although I'm not sure if they serve a purpose in my collection because they'd don't quite stand out. I used to have the K701s for a short while 6-7 years ago, and they were distinct even if they were flawed. The bumps on the headband made them unwearable, however.

>>61755586
Do you have the K712s? What do you think of those?

>>61752088
>caring about trips
>having the mentality that trips are believed to hold a higher value
kys

>>61755093
honestly with my headphones, I'm not sure I can tell a difference between my X3 and Sandisk Clip+ either. Obviously I feel like the X3 is a bit better and sounds fuller, but I'm not bothering to use a splitter box or whatever to do a blind comparison.

I got the X3 anyways for more options later on (maybe getting a K5 later on or just use as USB DAC on something else), also im financially stupid right now without much responsibility

>>61755610
I've never tried the K712s. The last AKG's I used before these 7xxs was the K701.

>>61755669
From what I've heard the K7XXs are based of the K712s but built cheaper. I have no experience with either. Currently looking for a good set of headphones.

>>61755693
Did you get the HD6xx that were on Massdrop last week? I don't think you could go wrong with those at $200. I do wonder if Sennheiser will have replacement parts available for them, however. I guess you could always get the HD650 parts from them as a last resort, but the color scheme would be all fucked.

>>61754831
What's the bitrate for the opus stream?
https://chiru.no:8080/stream.opus

Also, how can I get desktop foorbar2000 to work with https? That site is strictly non http.

>>61753367

That looks retardedly fragile. Isn't there a way to build headphones that does a better job of protecting those hair-thin wires?

>>61755506
the headband is great though it looks so comfy

>>61755716
>I do wonder if Sennheiser will have replacement parts available for them, however. I guess you could always get the HD650 parts from them as a last resort, but the color scheme would be all fucked.
am I looking at the right place for replacement parts?
http://headphonespares.sennheiser.co.uk/hifi-tv-headphones/hd-650

almost seems cheaper to just buy a 2nd HD6XX and part out the rest of the headphone to other people

>>61755808
There are retardedly fragile. They've been known to drop desk height onto carpet and break.

>>61755828
From the reviews I've seen it's not well padded

I'm gonna need some earbuds/IEMs (preferrably earbuds) for my daily commute. Something below $50 because I already spent on an MTH-M40x last month. Suggestions, friends?

>have you checked /csg/
Not a fan of Chinese products desu

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>>61755844
Learn to knit or by a pre-made knitted headphone band suitable for your phones.

>>61755448
105dB
A simplification either way, but if you were aware what is left out, you wouldn't have said the stuff you just did.
>reach a decent volume on shitty sources like my phone and motherboard but I swear the sound goes to shit, the treble gets even worse
There are many variables. Too many. Cannot narrow it down for you. The basic issues.
-Digital overload (excess digital volume, effects, phase shift...)
-Electronics cannot handle full level output/Headphone impedance too low
-Multisensory input and biases
>30 something mw into their 250ohm
Stop that. The power stuff doesn't do crap.
Beyers in general do not have remotely constant impedance.


>>61755808
They aren't exposed. You have to spend enough effort in disassembly that intrusion could not happen by accident.

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>>61752138

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M1060 vs LCD2
For the price difference are they worth it? Should I go for the LCD2s or should I just get the M1060s?

>>61755955
It's up to you, the M1060 sounds nearly as good at a fraction of the price but the LCD-2 still sounds better.

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K7xx wiring vs hd6xx """wiring"""
>>61753367
Both ends appear to be still attached, just get some extra wire and solder both ends together again.

>>61755955
dunno about the LCD2 but I was considering the M1060 myself until I learned that the earpads were glued which was an instant dealbreaker for me among other issues

>>61755993
Oh man, but look at all the pennies Sennheiser is saving!

>>61755955
Watch that Z guy's video review of the M1060 before making a decision. I usually don't watch his videos but he points out some significant cons.

>>61756012
Yea that's certainly a turn off. I keep hearing about all these little problems the M1060s have but people say they're worth it for the sound. I'm just not sure. Maybe I'm hoping someone will tell me to burn my money and get the LCD2s.

>>61756029
Watched it already. Yea the things he points out are deeply concerning but he keeps saying how they're worth it for the sound. Just not sure.

>>61755993
is there a (good) reason for Sennheiser's ridiculous wiring?

>>61755853
Monk Plus with Expansion Pack

>>61756043
They save pennies, and make more money from their modular parts.

>>61756060
Will look into it, thanks. What's the expansion pack do?

Any other suggestions are welcome too

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Thinking about picking this up, is it worth it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172799864616

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apparently this is the he4xx vs x2

I already have x2, is it safe to ignore the he4xx than?

>>61756043
Thicker wiring wouldn't fit the arrangement. Would require redesign of entire capsule.
As to why the capsule is designed as such, it's compact. TRS style connections would be far more bulky and less secure.
No stress is applied near wire, unlike k701 design. Still much harder to work with voice coil wire. Can be an issue given the contact spring defect.

>>61755993

WTF I love AKG now.

>>61756097
That's a good price for the M50s. Go for it

>>61756097
Nooooo never buy used.

I'd go for a Status CB-1 for sixty something USD on the official website with coupon. But if you really really need a more neutral M50X buy a new M40X.

>>61756133

> Thicker wiring wouldn't fit the arrangement. Would require redesign of entire capsule.

That's the only reason? I thought it was supposed to because of some sort of audio engineering hocus pocus. Turns out it's just a ploy from shysty Sennheiser to make it impossible for people to repair their own gear, making it necessary to shell out for expensive replacement parts.

>>61756196
still wainting for them to ship to europoor, really need that coupon

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>sennheiser
>wirelets
Pick two

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>>61753966
shitposting isnt a job, anon

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Any tips for a usb dac for a shure se215? My sound card is a shit.

>>61756138
it still sucks because elastic and some weird plastic. There's a very cheap looking clear plastic attached to the headband.

it's a pity that there are so many headphones in this budget range that would be perfect if not for a couple small details.

Best headphones for a <5k budget.

>>61751316
I got the SHP9500s from eBay for £60. I'm from the UK too, they are great

>>61756346
Focal utopia

>>61756310
Are you interested in getting a DAP with our IEMs? If so, get one with a line out so it can also work as a USB DAC as well for your computer.

don't fall for those ridiculously expensive standalone DACs. Nothing complicated about a DAC.

>>61750068
>Budget
Cheaper is better.

>Location
Canada

>Source
Thinkpad, Galaxy S5 Neo

>Type of headphone
Circumaural

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Maximum

>Sound signature
Any

I am looking for a very comfortable set of closed headphones that I can use while at the office. Cheaper is better. What are my best options?

>>61756273
serious question, why would I want a bulkier plug?

the only reason I can think of is that they're less likely to break off and ruin your day with a stuck jack inside the socket, not that I've ever done that but I can imagine why it could happen.

or would some headfi idiot tell me that the bass is more crisp with a quarter inch

>>61756420
Superlux HD681
Sony MDR-V6
Status Audio CB-1
Audio Technica ATH-MSR7

>>61756449
1/4th jacks are more durable then 1/8th jacks and are less likely to get damaged by pulling the plug out too fast. That side I would rather have a 1/8th in the headphone and a 1/4th on the source and just use an adapter

>Budget
Really don't have one, I doubt I'd spend more than a grand though.
>location
The US of A
>preference
Don't care if sound leaks out. Just want the best audio money can buy.

I do prefer the exact name and maybe even place where I can order the thing though, if I get any replies.

>>61756496
>That side I would rather have a 1/8th in the headphone and a 1/4th on the source and just use an adapter
I might as well do this now too on my threaded pluglets

>>61756519
Sennheiser HD600
Audio Technica ATH-R70X

>>61756449
They're more satisfying to plug/unplug. It changes the timbre - of the sound of plugging it in.

>>61756519
Audeze lcd-2.

>>61750068
>buy expensive headphones
>some songs sound great
>some songs its really obvious the recording is dogshit
>cant enjoy them
Why did you guys make me fall for the expensive headphones meme?

>>61756276
What am I looking at here?

>>61756628
Now you know to ditch the pleb music

>>61756628
If you'd like recommendations to well recorded non-meme music let me know.

>>61750306
what types of inputs?

>>61756681
Maybe.

I'm finding autistic shit like prog rock and classic is recorded and mastered really well, other stuff not so much.

>>61756628
>buy expensive headphones
>just ssssSSSSSssss SSSSHHHHHSHHHH
>buy less headphones with less treble
>still ssssSSSSSssss SSSSHHHHHSHHHH
Ow my ears

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>>61756701
Delet this post please.

>>61756707
Bonus points if you can guess what the two headphones are. Second were more expensive not less.

>>61756699
Gimme a list of genres you enjoy, I'll name a few artists off the top of my head.

Prog rock definitely has a reputation for being recorded well because the musicians tend to be gear whores/audiophiles themselves.

>>61756724
Second is HD800, first is HD700 maybe?

>>61756731
Nope. <$350 for both

>>61756729
>Gimme a list of genres you enjoy
I'm quite into Japanese Psychedelic Throat Singing at the minute.

Bought Superlux 668bs

Did I do good /g/?

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When her voice reaches high, tickles your ear drums and sends a shiver down your spine.

>he doesn't get constant asmr's from his jams
why even have nice headphones?

>>61756779
Do you like how they sound? Do you find them comfortable? If so, then yeah you did great m8

>>61756779
Pretty alright chink shit, but that "headband" isn't that comfy.

>>61756744
I um... Slipknot?

>>61756779
At that price range, you did really well, anon.

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>>61756779
Damn.
I should get a pair.

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>>61750068
AD500x VS AD700X VS AD900x? What's the difference, exactly?

>>61756860
Where is that from

>>61756899
rtings

>>61756687
For audio inputs, just my headphones and the monitor/TV speakers. If you mean the hotkeys, I really just want like an Alt + Key sort of thing. Simple stuff, just tedious to keep bringing up the window.

>>61756793
>tfw ASMR only lasts a few minutes
then I get desensitized for the whole day

>>61756976
Try heroin/oxy/opana/vicodin/opiates. It's like a super asmr that lasts for 12 hours. :D

>>61756646
a broken hd800

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>>61756082
It come with a lot of accessories for an extra $5. 3 sets of foams (thin thick, 'donut' holes), 2 pairs of ear hooks (large/small) and a couple rubber bands

>>61756779
Those head flap things are the most uncomfortable shit ever. Whoever designed that should be slapped

>>61750068
Don't peoples ears get toastie and sweaty with those huge "audiophile" headphones? Even in winter it's so uncomfortable wearing huge plates on your ears.

>>61757139
Nope, they're open so they let air flow in and out.

>>61757175
Open just means it leaks sound, typically from the backwave. Many circumaurals don't have vented baffles.

>>61755783
http://142.4.209.132:8000/stream.mp3

>>61750787
I bought a pair of them last week and I'm pretty into them.

>>61750068
Thank you for not posting an anime cancer image.

>>61755586
I ended up cutting those bumps out and grabbing a 650 headband replacement and gluing them in it's place. Wonky, but works.

>>61757139
>huge "audiophile" headphones
the bigger they are, the less sweaty actually

on-ears are actually the worst for sweat because they're literally squeezing your ear to your skin. AKGs are the biggest earpads I know so they're pretty much sweat-free in room temperature as only the top edge of my ears touch the pads, and the K701/702 velour earpads seem pretty "permeable" (or whatever word is better to describe it) to air.

>>61757333
Most of my open backs are vented. The only one that isn't is a planar.

>>61757139
>>61757537
Ok thanks anons, I have some open back koss that I really like, the ear clip ons and headband ones. But my pair of over ear headphones have hardly been used because my ears get too hot (Audio-Technica), I sent back the Samson SR950's because they were the most uncomfortable things I've ever worn.

I'm not after really expensive headphones desu, no intentions of doing that.

>>61757619
>over ear headphones have hardly been used because my ears get too hot (Audio-Technica)
that's because those are barely over-ear headphones

I had an M30X and I still have a 7506, and yeah, they sort of fit your earlobe within the pad, but it's sort of folded in and in contact with it from all sides. Both may as well be on-ear headphones to be honest as it's a world of difference to bigger (full-size) over-ear headphones.

The HD6XX or K7XX is $200. It's around double what the M40X is, and just a bit what the M50X cost. I'll tell you that the extra cost is worth it for the comfort alone, let alone the SQ upgrade provided the lack of noise isolation is not detrimental to your situation. Neither headphone is perfect though, despite the price that may seem excessive already to a normal person.

>>61757693
I'll check them out, I have headphones on constantly, I don't use speakers for my pc.
I'd actually prefer them to be open for the sound stage, if I need to have isolated sound I'll just use some earbuds.
I bet they're amazing headphones, I've used plenty of AKG and Sennheiser headphones over the years in recording studios, bet they were lower tier than the ones you mentioned.
I think £70 would be a limit for the time being because there is a ton of stuff I'm looking at getting. I still like keeping an eye on the market and what people have experience with of course.
If I got those pricey headphones I'd be looking at amps then, you know how it goes.

>>61750068

I have these, anyone else's ears get itchy wearing these?

How good is the new sennheiser hd4.40 ?

>>61757784
Only with short hair.

>>61750068
>SHP9500s
My nigga

Test

>>61757615
This

What are some nice poorfag headphones under $50? No preferences.

What headphones are good for vidya? Max is $150 but would prefer lower if possible.

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61758195
SHP9500S (OP's pic)

>>61758196
your setup is complete pleb reddit shit

>>61758190
Superlux HD668B
>>61758195
Status Audio CB-1

>>61758229
Envy much?

>>61758242
every headphone i own is more expensive and better, no one is jealous of a poorfag

>>61758259
>getting defensive
>caring so much
>"more expensive and better"
That's how we know you're full of shit x^DD

>>61758195
AD 500x/700x/900x, SHP9500

>>61758190
SR850/SR950
668B + new pads
662 EVO
PortaPro/KCS75
>>61758195
CB-1
SHP9500
558
598SR
AD700X/900X

>>61758266
your setup is straight outta reddit
keep sniffing your own farts faggot

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>>61758196
>schitt
>snapheisers
smells like reddit in here

I have the Status Audio OB-1 and a 2013 MacBook Pro, do I need a DAC? Because right now, I think my listening experience is pretty good.

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>>61757394
>not opus
>mp3
Don't do that to me.

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>>61758856
>not flac

>>61758975
Too much more bandwidth for little to no perceptible benefit.

>>61759018
zero benefit

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>>61759018
>>61759028
cucks

What should I put into my amp while waiting for HD6xx?

>>61759245
k712, mdr-cd900st

Where on /g/ can I talk about home theatre stuff?

>>61759245
a order cancellation

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Should I?

>>61759558
wtf is that? But most likely no.

>>61758840
turn the volume allthe way up, play a track of silence, do you hear noise? can you play music as loud as your preference dictates? if you answered no to the 1st and yes to the 2nd then you are golden

>>61758840
>$50 headphones
>do I need dac? amp?
Clear NO. FFS, if you have money to spend, think about going a tier on headphones.
Some HD579 would sound different.
Amps and DACs do not matter anywhere as much.

>>61759573
They're $900 speakers and they seem really good for listening to music on. And movies too.

>>61759615
What are they?
And somehow I doubt they're good value for the money compared to LSR305 or 308.

Are the Noontec Zoro II the same as the Noontec Zoro II HD? I can't find any information on the Zoro II without the HD branding anywhere, but they're like £20 cheaper.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noontec-Zoro-II-Ear-Headphone-Black/dp/B00Q8I0JYU/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noontec-Headphone-Professional-Comfortable-Adjustable/dp/B00MWRR8OA

>>61759633
They're speakers by KEF... they specialize in home theatre equipment and have very competitively priced gear that has sound rivals offerings from other companies that cost 5 times as much. I fact I've see plenty of posts on other threads comparing the ls50s to other much higher end speakers they cost over $10k. I really have no idea tho so I was just asking around about them. I'm going into 2001 audio video tomorrow to get a demo of them tho.

Is the headphone port on the new blackberry really that bad?

I really like it and would love to own it but I hate having awful sound quality on my phones. My LG G4 had shit tier output.

>>61759709
>blackberry
nice joke

Are the Sennheiser HD 569 decent for the price?

I can buy them with a 30% discount.

I'm currently using a 10€ in-ear piece of shit, so I'm not very picky. I just want something a little bit less ear raping than that. Is it a good choice?

>>61759845
>569
Go HD579 if you care about sound. They're also very competitively priced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW13Vy7XaSw

Honest question: are the AKG K 240 worth getting? they seem fine plus i only need them to listen to music and watch movies with.

>>61756237
Is there some human discernible difference in audio quality if some other wire was added inline?

As I understand, the wire shown is stupidly thin because it's the same wire that forms the coil. Placing another, thicker wire there would adulterate the audio path and make it less pure ... Or at least that's what the marketing department would tell you.

>>61759892
They're known to be decent.
Most people here hate AKG, so you won't see it recommended much.

>>61759944
shit. its just that its my first piece of a decent headphone so i dont want a sour taste in my mouth.

>>61759963
Well, you'll see a template used all over the place here, such as >>61756420
Fill it and you'll get some recommendations.

>>61759977
got it, thanks

>>61759942
think about how many wires it has travelled through to get from a microphone in a studio to your ears

>>61753367
>get thin speaker wire
>cut a length a little longer than needed to bridge the gap
>scrape of the ends of all the wires to expose the copper
>apply flux
>solder wires together

>>61756474
I wouldn't call MSR7 comfortable, even after bending the headband to reduce pressure at top of head. I still get hot spots after a while.

>>61756474
Sennheiser HD380 Pro.
Comfortable, very. And they do sound good.

>>61757784
>I have these, anyone else's ears get itchy wearing these?
in my 3-day beard, everytime

Located in Australia and I'm looking for some headphones for listening to music and playing games. Been looking at the Philips SHP9500S, but I'm having a hard time finding it for a good price that also ships to Australia.

>>61761198
Maybe increase your budget and get something else, like HD579. You might be more fortunate re: availability.

>>61761198
How many dollarydoos are you looking to spend?

>>61759558
They're a great speaker for the size, but for the price the Sierra 2 ribbon monitors or philharmonic bmr are better (the bmr has bass down to 30hz

>>61756474
>>61760891
Thanks for the suggestions, looks like I will have to decide between the MDR-V6, CB-1 and HD380.

>>61759558
Meh. LS50 got a lot of hype a couple years back. More than deserved.
LS50 bass rolloff starts high, bump in the high midrange.

Coincidental driver has close sum point, can be more easily used in the nearfield than most other 2 way loudspeakers. Has wider vertical listening window, for better or worse. More ceiling and desk reflections, but it sound similar whether you stand up or sit down. LS50's directivity performance is lacking compared to the 3-way coincidental designs from KEF and Genelec, particularly at LS50 X-over point.
Coincidental driver in the 2 way configuration presents potential issues of modulation, as well as general issue of designing surround that both allows for linear excursion and even sound dispersion for the tweeter. Theoretically removed or heavily reduced by the transition to 3-way.

If you wanted a compact coax speaker, KEF's R300 is smoother in the upper end, and has some bass. If we give up the coax, other small nearfield designs can serve as alternatives: Neumann KH120, Genelec M040, and so on.

>>61761774
Couldn't have put it better. Seconding this anons statements.

>Budget
~$200. i can bridge the gap though if they're a little over.

>Location
US

>Source
galaxy s8 and whatever audio asus puts in the z270f

>Type of headphone
full size

>Open or closed
closed

>Comfort level
I can deal with discomfort

>Sound signature
Little bit more bass than normal. Nothing over exaggerated like beats though. Just tight, solid bass will do.

I didn't get a reply last thread but I'm really considering buying the Oppo PM-3. Apparrently they sound really fucking dull and are uncomfortable. Any other thing I should be aware of? I don't mind neutral sounding closed/warm headphones. Going to be powering em off my fiio X3 2nd Gen. any thoughts on the PM-3 from owners? pls respond

New thread:
>>61762083
>>61762083
>>61762083

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>>61755506
Stock wise they have a massive rining wall of hell, lucky you can apply 'fazor' mod as done here >>61754437 with Audeze vegan pads, that are unfortunately are in low stock now so they are fucking expensive but you may substitute them for other pads.

>>61762193
>tuned by Beyerdynamic

>>61761977
Look into HD380 Pro.

>>61756699
>Japanese Psychedelic Throat
Would you have a time to hear about our shlomo and saviour Infected Mushroom? They even have their own simple mastering plugin, it's quite nice for a starter.

>>61762024
PM3 is basically MSR7 with a bass boost.
Both are compact headphones, upper midrange-low treble dip with a peak around 9-10kHz like almost everything does. Neither suffers much from the typical closed-back midrange unevenness, which is good. PM3 bass boost extends to lower midrange.

I know that for American buyers, PM3 can be found sometimes discounted from Oppo direct.

>>61762193
>rining wall of hell
You have to stop saying that. It's not remotely as important as you seem to think.
Indicates high-Q peak, with which "ringing" is inherently associated with. Frequency is lower than most other high-Q modes in headphones, so the period is naturally longer. Magnitude is moderate, so while it is not ideal, it's not a 4kHz tuning fork. It's a narrow 4kHz peak, nothing more or less.

>>61762193
Why buy headphones with terrible flaws like that, in the first place?

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>>61762322
>You have to stop saying that. It's not remotely as important as you seem to think.

It may not be as wide as peaks on beyers but it's a still peak that is precedent by a dip and followed by an EXTRA DIP that people both measure and hear. Also to anon that was thinking about M1060 vs LCD 2, M1060 also has an unusually high distortion in highs and a wonky square wave response that should negatively affect imaging. Still they are only 300$, maybe there will be a further revision as this rining problem can be solved by pads and some modding, and that weird pike n' dips make it look like they fucked up with tuning or rushed it.

>https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MonopriceMonolithM1060.pdf

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>>61750068
>>61751418
so beautiful

>>61752064
Nigger, you literally give the same advice every single time. You probably have 3 go-to items that you recommend to everybody. Fuck you/

Hi guys. Recommendations for decent earbuds/ IEMs for sporty use? Under 100 dollars please. Lowest price for value appreciated.

>>61753966
Friendly reminder that I own a pair of HD800S and earn less in a year than most of you do in a day.

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>>61761774
>If we give up the coax, other small nearfield designs can serve as alternatives: Neumann KH120, Genelec M040, and so on.
I was thinking about those, but then I also found Abacus Cbox-3. It's the smallest 132×132×202mm one and it also goes the deepest specs wise 30 – 20.000Hz at -6dB. They are more of a local German brand that makes speakers and amplifiers, so the only measurements with comments I found were on aktives-hoeren. Doesn't look bad and they do go deep after correction, altho there is a deep before a bump in bass followed by roll off.

Luckily Abacus has test packages so I will try them out, I also want to try M040 tho and maybe KH120. They are all within same 600€ price range. Any other small near fields recommendations for 600€?

>>61751945
>enable forced anonymity
>???
>profit

>>61756793
If pic is hentai give sauce

>>61756701
one is a SHHHHH mids only sennheiser

>>61765142
The first was a DT880, second was HD600.

>>61763331
The narrowband notch doesn't mean much.
Either way, it's not smooth timbre. That is very much a downside of the m1060.
>wonky square wave
Stop that. Stop thinking that.
A square wave by definition operates on a limited subset of the frequency response. It samples points of the frequency response (every other term of an arbitrarily defined Fourier series) and tosses the rest out.
If you find square waves easy to understand that is one thing. But it is strictly less informative.

Go play with a Fourier Series generator sometime.

>>61764444
Abacus Cbox looks like it gets that bass response electronically. That can applied to any other loudspeaker. Maximum output is still given by mechanical driver limits. Since the driver and cabinet are small, this also means that total sound pressure and loudness will be limited.
>Doesn't look bad and they do go deep after correction, altho there is a deep before a bump in bass followed by roll off.
Like on this page?
http://www.aktives-hoeren.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=7214

The wiggles in the low end are room effects. Dips and peaks in the low frequency come down to how you place them.
The limited SPL is somewhat offset by their compactness, so you can just place them closer to your listening position.

The recommendations I would give tend to revolve more around directivity control, since that is the essential part that cannot be equalized. I'll try to come up with more in the next thread.