/pcbg/ PC Building General - gtx 760 edition

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oops just made a thread but I will post here.

Building my first computer.

Anything wrong with this setup?

My 20+ hour struggle continues, I plugged in the power switch and reset switch wrong and I think I connected my HDD and optical drive wrong, I'm just going to take a break from this for a few days

>>61641256
disassemble all the part and start with simplest one,
- connect psu to the power, turn it on does your psu fan spun?
- add psu to motherboard and cpu without ram, it should beep
- add ram and gpu, connect the monitor, try to go to bios
- finally add your hdd

>>61641247
mining is on it's way out famm

>>61641331

Yeah I won't be mining eth and stuff, just some shitcoins on the bitcointalk forum before they hit exchanges.

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Went to turn on my PC last night and it made a big pop sound and a flash and then went quiet. Smelled like burning too.
After that it was conpletely dead, press the on button and nothing.
I opened it up and looked for any signs of a problem but didnt see anything. I looked at the mobo for a while and didn't see any signs of a short or burnout. So... power supply?
Not sure how to test it.

>>61641226
>recommends iGPU graphics
>only one CPU with iPGU in the list
Why? Also the R3 isn't really a much better value than the Pentium, is it?

>>61641477
Better get a spare PSU to test it with. Sounds like exploding PSU to me.

>>61641512
2 vs 4 cores matter

>>61641512
R3 1200 when OCed beats the Bentium. Ditto for A12-9800 which has a better iGPU and can also be OCed.

>>61641544
Sure but it's almost twice the price right now and you need to spend money for a gpu (which unless you are a total poorfag you would do anyway9 but leaving the Pentium out makes no sense in this context.


>>61641552
But would a poorfag build really include an A350 chipset?

R8 and please don't h8

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j78Wqk

I'm getting it prebuilt on another site for peace of mind/included warranty, but as a result I have to pick certain stuff like Corsair RAM because they have deals with suppliers

Do I need to upgrade to splash out for liquid cooling or anything?

It will be used for a wide range of game genres. MMOs, FPS, RTS

>>61641572
>But would a poorfag build really include an A350 chipset?
There is barely any price difference between the two. Maybe $5 or something.

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I've been driving myself insane with my obtuse need to fit a computer into a hole for /aesthetics/ and I find the case with the perfect size and features. (Antec ISK 600M) But oh wait it hasn't been made in years and can only be bought used for like $200.

Anyone else have some suggestions for this one?
Dimensions: 13in Width x 13in Height x 15in Depth.
mATX. Preferably with some sort of disk drive space and I/O connections on the front. My alternate option is the Corsair Air 240, but it's lack of disk drive pisses me the fuck off.

>>61641477
Look at your connector diagram and bend a paper clip and complete the circuit in two pins to make the PSU think it's on. If you hear the fan whim, then it's probably fine.

Or you can just get a power supply tester.

>>61641528
Yeah that seems the most likely I guess. Thing's only 2-3 years old. Sonofabitch

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>building PCs

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>>61641746
>1366x768 59Hz

G4560 is still relevant faggots.

Reminder that not everyone is American
>$40 price difference is significant in other currencies
>still available in other countries
>it's actually $57 in mine, with good availability

Of course, this would change once we know for sure whether it can be upgraded to Coffee Lake or not.

>>61641649

that is pretty sexy

>>61641776

>Alienware

I've been waiting for >1 month for GPUs to be back in stock, and I'm at the point where I'd like to have my PC right now, by next Sunday if possible.

Should I just go ahead and buy a 1060 6GB for 280€ or am I getting ripped off?

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Best psu for a 1080ti?

>>61641860
How are 980 Ti prices where you are? They're like 7% worse than a 1070 but there should be plenty of used ones around by now. I won't upgrade from mine until 2019 or 2020 if my estimates are correct.

>>61641888
600w?

>>61641908
It's >400€, insane prices

tfw bought a 970 for 100 euro

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Sub 500 € light-gaming build for the Krauts

Not going to buy it, just was curious what is possible with the R3 and what not in terms of money.

General thouhgts of this build:

>Use 2 x 4 GB of RAM to profit from dual-channel over 1 x 8 GB which would have been way cheaper
>Only 120 GB SSD to avoid spending too much money on storage
>Focus on a good PSU to avoid losing the hardware quickly, but renounce a modular PSU. Non-modular will do in this price range

Since it's still almost 30 € below 500, you can still either put a bigger SSD, or get the 1050 TI

Thoughts? What would you have done different?

>>61642000
That's 555 $ in retard btw, but I assume US prices should be way lower anyway.

>>61642000
4gb isn't enough ram.

>>61641797
The Athlon X4 950 is cheaper and has 4 real cores.

>>61641888

650w Gold

Seagate is a good choice.

>>61642000
Why get an SSD instead of HDD for a budget build.

>>61642030
it's 2 x 4...

>>61642043
Because it's 2017

>>61642041
What about EVGA? I have a 750w I'm looking at for 109USD

>>61642035
>4 real cores
Anon...

Never mind the fact that the G4560 will be faster. But personally I'd get the Athlon just because I can upgrade to whatever until 2020

>>61642035
>4 real cores.
You mean as in "two cores sharing one FPU"?

>>61642000
Get a cheaper mainboard like
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/ASRock-A320M-AMD-A320-So-AM4-Dual-Channel-DDR4-mATX-Retail_1169767.html
and get faster RAM instead.

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>>61641654
Psu is packed with dust, pretty sure that killed it. I ain't fucking around with these caps, just going to replace it.

So my stupid computer guy built me a PC with no CPU cooling. My graphics card hasn't come in yet so I'm just hoping the pc hasn't even been booted yet and he hasn't fried my chip. Stupid cunt. Is there anyway to tell if a cpu is damaged when I finally get it home? Yes I'm a complete scrubby noob at this.

>>61642041
>Seagate PSU
Do you buy Seasonic HDD?

>>61642091
EVGA G3 or P2 and you should be set for the next 7 years

>>61642245
Sounds good I'll go with the G3 750w

>>61642234
Which CPU? Except for certain models, most would come with a cooler. The PC would automatically switch off if the CPU gets too hot btw

Are there any graphics cards in the gtx 10 series that have two DVI ports?
Or is there any way to get 144hz on two monitors without the use of DP?

HDMI 2.0 cables are expensive fuck

>>61642290
It's an i7 6800k so that's an unlocked one right? I don't think they come with a stock sink, and I assumed it did until yesterday, and I think he does as well. That's good to know that it will turn off, so I shouldn't worry too much? I'll be slapping a liquid cooler on it tomorrow before he gets everything rolling.

>>61641982
>he fell for the 3.5 GB
970 are dirt cheap at the moment because everyone is trying to get rid of them

>>61642234
You should be fine, CPUs will automatically halt the system if temperatures climb to unsafe levels.

>>61642333
>Are there any graphics cards in the gtx 10 series that have two DVI ports?
No. DVI is pretty much dead at this point and it's only included in cards for legacy reasons.
>Or is there any way to get 144hz on two monitors without the use of DP?
You could buy DP to DVI adapters, but those aren't cheap either.

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oh yeah

>>61642418
Alright thanks for the extra reassurance I was really worried I'd be booting up a brand new PC with a damaged chip.

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Reminder to always check the QVL on your motherboard's website before choosing hardware for it.

>>61642430
>RAM at 2133 CL15

What did he mean by this

Where to buy cheap win 10 key

>>61642271
Don't. Last batch of Supernova G2's are no longer Super Flower manufactured and none of these new models are.

>>61642593
What?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=500

>>61641226
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)

For a poor man with ~$500 the g4560 is still a more cost efficient choice specially for gamers.

>>61641247
Hey I remember you. I see you took my advice on the case. You want RAM with 14-14-14-34 timings. It's more likely to hit 3200MHz.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H4M323/gskill-tridentz-series-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14q-32gtzsw

>>61642713

Hey man, I remember you also, thanks for advice on case. Is the 'RAM with 14-14-14-34 timings' better in general or just for mining?

>>61641477
check were is the fail first, unmount gpu hdd ...

only conect motherboard and one stick of ram try power up.
if it power up continue inserting extra hardware one by one
if not bot is psu mother board (procesor or ram) check the psu with a fan or wathever.

Any good build around the Vega?

What total budget would one expect for such a build?

Living in Austria

>>61641818
Yeah I remember seeing it 5-6 years ago and not really feeling the design but I really want it now.

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>1700X is down to $299 on Amazon

>>61642827
That stuff is pretty expensive.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/s4xLRG

>>61642827
Why do you Aussies even try to play video games when your country is so desperate to make it affordable?

>>61641226
Still using a 760 lmao, how shit are they now and would it be bottlenecking my 4690k

>>61641226
Anyone here have experience buying hardware from another country namely the US?
A lot of the stuff is way cheaper in the US.

Thanks in advance

>>61643006
wew lad, guess that's not an option for me. thanks for the effort.

>>61643040
aussies need gaymen too

>>61641226
r8 my build.
CPU: AMD Opteron 6272 x2
Mobo: Asus KGPE-D16 AMD
Ram: 16 GB of Kingston DDR3 ECC RAM
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 EATX
PSU: EVGA - 80 PLUS 600W
Graphics card: Gtx 660 ti
Storage: 250GB SSD samsung plus 4TB HDD
Cooling: Bunch of fans I have.

>>61643100
Where are you located?

You have to think about things like import tax and other things

>>61643100
Shipping, customs, no warranty. Not worth it

>>61641982
where can i buy a 970 for that price?

>>61643147
South Africa, as far as I know hardware is a 0 rated item here(no tax).
>>61643159
Now that you put it like that, I'm not as interested as I was before

Just bought 12 1080Ti. Equihash here we come :)

>>61643305
should I add something or does this look alright?

How do you guys shop for a monitor? I cant decide on a 27" or a 32"

>>61643320
i would change the mobo to something else, i've had some problems with pc mate

>>61643320
You'll need a GPU and I'd go with a 2,5" ssd over yours.

>>61643331
thanks for the heads-up

>>61643348
waiting for VEGA
any reason as to why you prefer an SSD over the m2 drive? budget wise it's not an issue that's why I picked a m2 since it's faster or am I missing something?

>>61643392
Just because 2.5" is cheaper, if you can afford it M.2 is great (no cables and less space + more speed).
What old GPU are you running with until then? Isn't that case a bit shorter than normal in terms of GPU length?

>>61643452
oh okay
rx480, the case is pretty big and it should be sufficient for any kind of gpus I think

>>61643331
What problems? Mine has been fine so far, only problem is my ram can only hit 2933.

>PC part picker thinks that the EVGA CLC280 is incompatible with AM4
kek

What do you think of this build?
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/DxX9m8
Can I make it cheaper or better?
I already have a 700W PSU.

>>61642795
Lower timings are in general better, if not significantly so. What's special about 14-14-14-34 is that it's Samsung B-die, which gets along better with Ryzen. You're more likely to be able to run it at full speed compared with lower quality ram. A set of Hynix or lower quality Samsung may say 3200mhz, but have trouble actually running at that speed. At least that's how it is for regular Ryzen. BIOS updates since launch have been improving the RAM situation, so Threadripper could fare better.

>>61643534
my ram was unstable at 2133 and sometimes the pc wouldn't boot at all

hello i dont know if this belonged on /sqt/ or here but if i want to upgrade from i3 to i7 do i just need to buy the processor or do i have to replace the motherboard too?

1050ti oc and rx 470 4gb are almost equal in price where i live, I'm going to pair it with ryzen 1600 for video editing and gaming, which one will be a better choice

>>61643606
Get faster RAM. If you want to save money, you may want to consider just using the stock cooler. Wraith Spire is quite acceptable even for decent overclock.

>>61643699
The 470 is almost as fast as the 1060 3GB, and significantly faster than the 1050 ti. So unless you have an actual reason to prefer Nvidia, it's the better choice.

>>61643704
I updated it, thanks.
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/fJz8gL

>>61643624
That's weird, even with bios updates?

Would I run into any issues using a 710 as a placeholder in a R5 1600 build until I get a decent GPU? Won't be used for gaming right now.

>>61643640
check if your mobo supports the CPU

>>61643640
If they're both same socket, the i7 should work fine.

>>61643931
it does, its the lga1150, which one should i get? im not a gamer btw its more for video/music production

>>61643620

Ty man, I will look into this. Do you have any recommendations for '14-14-14-34 ' ? I am looking for pretty much top tier parts, but not so much that they are priced like several thousand per piece, but still very high.

>>61643972
not just the socket, the actual CPU

if it's an asus motherboard put the CPU name and check if the mobo is on the list, i'm sure other manufacturers have the same
https://www.asus.com/support/cpu_support

Ok, the old thread died, got one comment (to switch 1200 for 1600)
What do you think?

> Buget up to 1000 USD - hard mode - VAT included (23% EU-fag here) and screen incuded
>Goal: facebook/writing machine, YT, watching movies, occasional editing of pictures, rarely trimming down clips for YT. However, I want something that will last for a couple of years::
>CPU
Ryzen 1200
>MOBO
Asus Prime B350M-A
>GPU
MSI GF 1030 (silent version)
>PSU
Corsair CX450M
>MEMORY
Patriot 2x4GB, 2400, validated with mobo producer
>STORAGE
ADATA 128 GB SSD, 1TB Seagate Barracuda
>CASE
beQuire! Pure 600
>SCREEN
Dell U2414H
>OTHER
DVD drive

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https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B01KKZLX46/

What do you guys think about >1TB SSDs?

>>61644114
I think you should get a Bluray/DVD/CD drive instead, they're like 40-50 bucks and give you full freedom.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dnHfzM

>>61644114
I got a build that's better in every way with 700€(including 24% VAT), so I'm pretty sure you can do much better.

Rate and recommendations? FYI, I chose that specific hard drive because a standalone 1TB mechanical and even a low capacity SSD is like $120 together.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4whDgL

>>61643904
yes, even with a beta bios with agesa 1.0.0.6 it didn't work
i just returned it and got a asus prime b350-plus, now my rams work at 2933mhz and it boots every time
it's pretty pathetic that such problems even exist

>>61644240
care to share?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mVfK9W
I'm planning on playing Destiny 2, Doom, and Overwatch.

>>61644558
Don't have the link anymore, but I had a 1600, Asrock AB350m pro4, Corsair LPX 2x4GB 3000MHz, Evga 600W bronze, 256GB SU800 SSD, a MSi RX 550 and a cheap Zaiman mATX case.

So, I live in the shit land of yurotaxes, used 980s are the same price of new 1060s (3GB)

Should I just go for a 980 or the 1060 is somehow better?

>>61641477
OK I'm back. The power supply was bad so I replaced it. It wouldn't turn the fan.
However the PC is still not turning on. When I plug it in and press the power button, the cooling fans turn like 1/8 a turn and then nothing.

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first build for playing games and watching movies and videos , it totals up at about $610 which was close to my $600 budget. I plan on installing windows 10 by usb once I build it, but am I missing anything? or any recommendations for parts?

If want to buy a multiboxing rig to play Eve Online, what should I prioritize in a CPU ? Core ? Thread ? Ghz ?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kdq6tJ

This will be replacing my laptop with core i7 3610 and gtx 660m.

I need help choosing RAM and PSU, as you can see it's a budget build, will upgrade to r5 and rx580 later when the buttcoin craze dies.

I need it to run Visual Studio 2017, latest MS-SQL managment studio and Fallout 4 and 2k/75hz at even low details, which I guess this build can do.

>>61644653
you didn't count a 250 euro dell u2414h

>>61644695
The 1050ti is SHIT
Ryzen IS SHIT

Why fuck are you trusting a retarded OP in a fucking imageboard about consumerism whores

>>61644736

Oh and also I already have winblows and all the other software.

>>61644736
what's wrong with the laptop?

you're downgrading CPUs

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>>61644748
what do you recommend my friend?

>>61644695
Any reason you're going with SuperBiiz? Last time I used them their prices blindsighted me with $15 shipping for just my R5 1600.

Check what you'll be actually paying at SuperBiiz first.

>>61644748
you didn't even say a word about the goddamn psu, 350w? even my captcha says "wait plus100"

>>61643055
They are quite fucking bad. Kepler is just shit overall.

>>61644773

For the time being, but won't 1600x, which I'm planning on getting somewhere near november be better than this i7?

>>61644782
Stop being poor or buy a used 970-980m 1050ti have the perfomance of a fucking 770 GTX, a card you can buy for 50€

>>61644556
>buying ram not on the QVL

>>61644807
oh shit, ill have to double check shipping prices. Thanks for the heads up.

>>61644846
it was on the QVL

>>61643907
I was running a x1300 from a dell prebuilt (256mb of vram) for a week before getting my 580, you won't have any issues.

>>61644740
That's still a LOT of parts that are just straight-up downgrade for not much less.

>>61644808
should I go with a 400 plus watt? It said i'd only need about 225 watts , so I went for around 300 watts

>>61644695
That board is so lackluster, why not go with the asrock pro4 or the gigabyte gaming 3? Also, try to get a bigger psu.

>>61644653
Thanks Anon. I'll try to see what can I get. Did you get that Corsair RAM running with that mobo and Ryzen at that speed though?

>>61644658
The 1060 3GB is trash, the 1050ti out performs it in some games even. You'd be better off with a 980 like you mentioned, or a 570/580 if any are available.

>>61641649
What mobo size? itx or matx? For that money you can get a nice ass tempered glass LianLi case like a pc q37 or o10wx

Which Ryzen mobo is generally considered the best for the price?

>>61644964
It's running at 2933MHz with no problems.

>>61644982
Whatever has the features you want at the lowest price.

It's not hard.

>>61644669
RIP.

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>>61644973
Yeah I was looking at that, looks like 980 shit on 3gb 1060, you can find them for literally the same price, a 6GB 1060 is 400 bucks here and a 1070 is 600, god bless europe

>>61644919
most PSUs work best when under around 40-60% load, 225W with a 450W would be exactly 50%, and you could later on change your gpu to gtx1060/1160 without any problems or overclock your cpu

>>61644949
what do you mean by lackluster?

>>61644773
>gimped mobile i7
>downgrade

Stop posting.

first time builder here, maybe i should be posting this in sqt instead but whatever
with my case, there was this crappy 2-pin pc speaker (the plug is actually 4-pin but only the two outer ones are used)
my mobo's manual says which pin is + and which is the -, but on the speaker itself it isn't really marked in any way, the cable is all black, no +/- signs etc
does it matter which way you plug it in?
also, are the power switch and reset switch the same as well? as in you can put them in any way you want

>>61641247
commit suicide you faggot

Should I get a used Radeon HD 7970 or new 1050 Ti? I bought a way oversized PSU for my needs and wouldn't mind the 7970's 250w TDP.

>>61644773
How the fuck is a ryzen quad core running at 3.1ghz a downgrade from ivy bridge QM at a base 2.1ghz

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>>61645118
because hes an intel shill

>>61645112
380 is quite nice too if you can find one at normal price.

>>61645136
Maybe he's just retarded and thinks the ivy bridge is better because 7 > 3.

Just like people thinking 660 > 580 because the numbers are higher.

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Buying a Intel CPU and an Nvidia graphics card AND YOU CANT STOP ME.

>>61645183
Don't forget the poptarts

>>61645183
It's not my money you are wasting.

>>61645039
Aight, thanks man I'll do some more looking and find some stuff. Thanks

>>61645208
>>61645209
>AMD screeching

>>61645183
a g4560 is still better than a ryzen 1200
and you basically can't buy any amd cards because they're sold

>>61645118
>>61645053
>>61644736

Thanks for opinion, but anyone can help me choose psu and ram?

>>61645209
>>61645183
or your house hes burning down

>>61645225
Why do you hate poptarts so much?

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>>61645243
>a g4560 is still better than a ryzen 1200
in your fucking dreams, brian

>>61642204
Why not?

>>61645253
I'm a toaster strudel guy t b h

>>61645149
There's an offer on kijiji (canadian ebay) for CA200 (157 USD). Would that be better than spending CA200+ on those other two cards I mentioned?

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>>61645264
it's time for the cherry picking game

>>61645045
I mean that you only get two ram slots. The msi b350m pro-vdh doesn't cost much more(according to us amazon, I'm a yuropoor) and you get a way more futureproof board.

>>61645281
Ah nvm. It's a 2gb model..

>>61645281
Yeah, it's basically a rebranded and optimized r9 285. If it's a 4 gb version, pick it up.

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>>61645283
>look the biggest outlier i could find, i win the argument

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>>61645283
>blaming an nvidia driver issue on amd
nice try brian

>>61641226
First time building my own pc. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sZWYFd

Any good thermal paste?

where can i get most objective benchmarks?

>>61645381
intel.com

>>61645313
Too bad. Did a quick search on the site though, and I think I found a 970 for like $260. Not to familiar with the canadian dollar, but if the 1050ti is not much cheaper than that, go for the 970.

Ordered a dust filter for my top vent (with no fan), can't stop me.

Although honestly there's a lot of ambient dust out of my control, so I'd rather cut off an easy point of entry.

>>61645381

tomshardware, nvidia.com and intel ARK.

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>>61645381
>>>/g/pcbg

>>61641247
Pirate Windows. Also, if you're buying it, you don't need the Pro version.

What's a good budget mid tower case?

>>61645533
Fractal Design Focus G
Corsair Carbide series
NZXT S340
Phanteks Eclipse P400

Can someone help me find the QVL for the MSI B350m Gaming Pro? I don't know why I'm having so much trouble finding it and I couldn't find a QVL in the PDF manual.

Fucking 580s were in stock this morning and I didn't bother jumping on them and now I am having some serious regret. How much of a difference do 580 8gb and 1060 6gb have between them? I really need a new card ASAP.

>>61645515
>pirate windows

enjoy your chink backdoors and random errors and no updates

>dont need pro

Oh, so RDP is useless then? what about msc? In the most recent updates the only way to disable cortana is to have pro

>>61641256
How would you manage to plug HDD and optical drives wrong? SATA is keyed, only goes in one way, order doesn't matter. PATA is keyed, only goes in one way, but you have to set the jumpers to CS in both or Master/Slave according to the order in which you plug them.

>>61645584

>msc

I meant group policy management

>>61645569
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350M-GAMING-PRO.html#support-mem-2

>>61645569
>>61645605
>compatibility
>click Memory support for ryzen series if ryzen

>>61645584
>enjoy your chink backdoors and random errors and no updates
but all of what you said is total bullshit
just download a clean iso from microsoft and microsoft toolkit to activate it
and updates do work

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So say I had a USB drive and wanted to install Windows 10 on it, I could just go to Microsofts webpage, download it and then install it on my new build?

>>61641649
Do those dimensions allow for space between the case and the hole walls? Or is the hole at least open from behind too? I wouldn't make a tight fit if not...

>>61645666
I think it would ask you for a code to fully activate it

do windows shills exist

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>>61645375

>>61645375
What do you plan on using it for? Have you considered Ryzen?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zVrRxY

Under $100 build. Thoughts?

>>61645676
But I still have access to the OS right? Can still browse web, install driver's, play games, and customize win 10?

>>61645688
absolute shit

>>61645706
Just hit up ebay and craigslist

>>61645711
all I know is you can not customize. not sure about others.

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>>61645671
Those dimensions are the max size with about .25-.5in spacing on the sides. The back is also open. I'm wanting to fit it into the square of a Ikea Kallax. Basically any front-to-back airflow would be the best. I know I can step down to a ITX but I would rather stay with a nice mATX.

>>61645728
Thanks for the input m8.

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rate this build my dudes, any critiques? I will plan to keep this a long while and while do gaming and animu.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CHzngL

Why i cant use my ddr3 at 1600mhz with a FX ? It only works at 1300mhz.

>>61645533
Fractal Design Core 3300

>>61645912
hey cutie,

ur build is poopy but I think you are sexy.

>>61645276
This. Also the frosting is generally the worst part about Poptarts, unless they're wild berry or cherry and then it's the filling.

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Have you dudes bought a bag to match your Vega yet?

>>61646141
wow anon your backpack looks very scary just like AMD hacker cpu

I know both are dated, and my PC is especially old. But which is currently better for gaming? I can give the specific cards and processors if needed.
PC-
2.33ghz quad core, 8gb ram, 2gb video card

Laptop-
2.50ghz dual core, 16gb ram, hd graphics 520 integrated card

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When will the Vega meme die?

>>61646166
The PC definitely. Core 2 Quads (or any equivalents), although dated as fuck, can still handle emulators + majority of modern games as long as the Card is good. What is the card?

OK, building new PC, tell me what I did wrong

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/crMPBP

>>61645912
2x4 > 1x8 for RAM (Double check the QVL)
I'd also say bumping it up to a 2400mhz if you can.

That board also has some so-so reviews on it so that choice I'd leave up to you. However,f or that price range there are definitely some better options.

The card isn't horrible per se but don't expect a miracle worker out of it.

Will upgrade from i5 2500 and 2GB 960 to r3 1200 and 1060 3GB be worth it? 1060 6GB cost about 30% more than 3GB. I play on my old 24' LCD 1920x1200 screen if that matters.

what's the best ''regular'' HDD out there?
or is there practically no difference

>>61646268
Might as well get 3200 ram. I'd get a better liquid cooler than that or get a nice air cooler, Noctua U12s is the same price and will probably perform as well but quieter. You can get a cheaper 3tb hdd potentially.

Reposting question from last thread:
Is this build https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/TfFWqk ok for 1080p gaming?
My concern is with the ram/cpu compatibility

>>61646240
geforce gt 740 card in the pc

My PC was dead which is why I bought the laptop, but now that my PC is running again I was curious which would be better for gaming without upgrading.

>>61646268
Are you going to be overclocking? If not, then the liquid/paste is overkill. The board isn't too great desu.

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Please advise

>>61641226
Did miners flop yet?

>>61645413
Just found a 970 in my area for $230 CAD. Seems too good to be true. Probably fried.

>>61646420
Remove Windows 10, get GTX 1080Ti.

>>61646444
Nope. Ether and Buttcoin have leveled out, and the fleet footed few have already gotten out of the game.

the only gpu in my area is an unopened titan x pascal for $700
b b-better than paying +$100 markup on a 1070 right?

>>61646416
I can crunch through emus and some gaymes like Hearthstone on my 1GB 560 so you should be able grind through on a 740. Don't expect any crazy power though.

>>61646355
I would suggest saving some more money before upgrading. The r3 is better than the (non-k) 2500 especially if you overclock it, and the 1060 3GB is basically a tier above 960, but neither of them are huge improvements and the 1060 3GB in particular is a pretty bad buy because 3GB isn't really enough for a GPU of it's power.

>>61646481
Will there be affordable GPUs this black friday?

>>61646519
LOL

>>61646519
I'd be surprised if there's even any in stock by Black Friday.

>>61646420
Go Ryzen 7, the 7700k has no tangible fps advantage at 1440p on average

Am I going to fuck myself over buying Asus Prime B350-Plus with r5 1600 and a plan to overclock it?
6 SATA ports and a plain PCI slot are tempting me.

>>61641226
oppic is my gpu

i've built my pc about 5 years ago
>i5 3470
>8gb ddr3-1600
>1tb wd black
>lga1155 mobo
runs DOOM on medium with about 50fps

whats the best upgrade route?

>>61646519
Maybe, but you need to remember that GPU manufactures could set MAPs to prevent them from getting discounted too much.

I'm mostly going to be doing 3D animation, but I always have used school computers, not sure about compatibility of fitting everything inside?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jV9jVY

Are these okay?

>>61646559
Why the fuck nobody wants to increase the production to make up with the demand?

>>61646619
because die production is a bitch and this demand is strictly transitory

after the mining dies down all the cards will be sold to gamers, the supply and demand will return to as if this whole thing never happened

dont expect any cheap gpus when this dies down either

Which card should I get for my g4560 build, 1050ti or 1060 3gb? I'm not gonna play heavy games like GTA, it's mostly for old games and humble stuff like Nier or Dark Souls 3.

>>61646647
>dont expect any cheap gpus when this dies down either
w-why not?

>>61646667
lets say there are 500 gamers who want 1070s, they only produced 500 gpus to meet this demand

and then 10 of crypto assholes buy 50 cards each and the gamers have none

after the cryptokings sell their cards, there are 500 cards and 500 gamers want them
the supply and demand is the same as before, because the production didnt boom the price of gpus will be the same for the gamers as if this never happened

>>61646655
depends on resolution and graphics. if at higher resolution/graphic settings the 1060 might find itself running out of VRAM (i remember a few games where the 1050Ti was better because of the 4GB VRAM) but if you're keeping it truly humble (e.g. 1080p@60hz medium settings) then 1060 3GB is fine.

>>61646610
>bulldozer
>halfway to 2018
THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING NIGGER

>>61646655
>g4560
you already fucked up

>>61646610
>that build
>strokes penis

WHAT ARE YOU DOING MY NIGGER?

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>>61646610
>FX 9590
>small air cooler

What can I do with my former GPU ? I get a old R9 270x but I only have one desktop. My current PC has a RX580 but my CPU doesn't have an iGPU. What should I do ?

>>61646764
MY DUDE
DID YOU SEE HIS BUILD

ANON IS AUTISTIC CONFIRMED

>>61646610
>>61646716

Holy shit. I forgot they still sold those fuckers. But real talk get a Ryzen 1500x+. (And you could get a board that would offset the price difference.)

>>61646716
>>61646752
>>61646764
The only thing I understand of all of this is that I should cheap out on my cpu cooler. I don't know shit, and all guides out there are usually outdated or tailored for gamers.

Yo, working on doing full watercooling with kabeylake. Any recommendations for a case?
Requirements
>Side panel window
>Front panel usb-c
>full tower

>>61646610
Pirate Windows, reinvest the $100 elsewhere or pocket it.

>>61646813
Should add I don't want it to look very gamery, was thinking the Lian Li pc-o11

>>61646619
Increasing production takes time, once the production is increased, getting those cards on the shelves takes time, and no-one knows how long the increased demand will last.

If you maintain production levels, you get empty warehouses and increased profits. Increasing production levels is a gamble, and one where no-one really knows what their odds are.

>>61646655
GTX 1060 6GB or 1050Ti.
Avoid the 3GB version.

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>>61646716
>>61646752
>>61646764
>>61646799
>responding to bait THAT blatant

>>61646686
Most gamers wont buy used worn cards, the demand is there but not the product.

>>61646801
FX 9000 CPU's are very hot, you will want some form of watercooling or a hilariously large air cooler.But really FX is outdated, you should invest in Ryzen. Even the cheap R3 CPU's should match or slightly beat the FX CPU's. Get a Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 7 1700 with for 3D.

>>61646845
oh no billy, you are getting a GAMUR pc whether you like it or not

The IN WIN 909 IS WHAT YOU WANT

>>61646886
Thank you for the actual advice. It wasn't available because of compatibility. But I guess it was the motherboard. Again i'm clueless because guides are outdated or for gamers.

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Main Purpose is dedicated gaming PC for 3+ years. I've had a gaming laptop for the past 3 years because I've been moving frequently but now thats not important.

Money is not an issue but I still cant decide if I want to get Ryzen 1700 or i7700k. I might also be getting into VR sometime in the future so this needs to support it. For the case I might just get a mid tower from Nzxt or Fractal.

>>61646993
>7700k
wow you already fucked up

>>61647024
shut up AMD Shill

Can anyone tell me the difference between TDP and actual power consumption and why manufacturers don't post peak power requirements for their cards.

How can one calculate the total peak power without owning the card and testing it under load yourself (the pcpartpicker isn't exactly accurate).

>>61647049
Is it really shilling though? Corelets are falling out of favor.
And it's not a now vs then build, they specify 3+ years.

>>61646610
Don't know what the fuck to do anymore,

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3g6ngL

>>61647074
Go with an R5 1600, and everything up to and including the 1600 (not 1600X) include a cooler so you don't need to buy separate.

I live in Florida and just the stock 1600 cooler is fine day to day.

will i lose a lot by preformance buying 3gb/ 4 gb edition of cards? 1060/580? instead of 6gb/8gb?
price between them is ridiculous... over 100 pounds.

>>61641572
It's twice the price due to how new it is. It won't take long before the price drops enough.

>>61647071
Stop with your autistic shilling slash g is known to hold mentally ill individuals who always defer from normal societal standards. Intel is the mentally stable choice of CPU, you clearly are lacking in social skills. you dumb neet

>>61647100
3GB is notably slower than its 6GB version, youtube benchmarks.

>>61646993
While not a fan of liquid cooling looks good.
Get a HDD maybe?

>>61647100
3GB 1060 is a cut down version which is weaker, not worth its price now that everything is overpriced.

>>61647094
Great, I was wondering why nobody had cpu coolers. What about motherboards, beyond compatibility what should I be looking into specs wise?

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>>61647103
Yes I know. I didn't really want to drag it out this long but what it comes to in my mind is that the G4560 should simply be included in the current OP until the R3 drops in price.

So, looking to build a new computer
would be primarily for gaming
Should I buy into the Ryzen hype, or stick with an i7?

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>>61647105
I FUCKING HATE AMD SO MUCH

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Mislabeled thread. It really is
/vgcag/ - Video Game Console Assembly General

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When do reviewers get their hands on ThreadShitter? I want to see the full extent of Intel's BTFO-dedness.

>>61646993
My AMD version would be Ryzen 7 1700 and MSI x370 mobo.

>>61647112
I was actually thinking of getting a 1TB NVMe. This would be my first time with liquid cooling but it seems to be a must have nowadays for overclocking

>>61647227
If you are only playing games a NVMe SSD is not the best idea since they dont really benefit a lot from them, SATA SSDs are fast enough.

I'll never buy AMD products

>>61647270
Dunno anon, APUs are quite acceptable.

>>61647227
>I was actually thinking of getting a 1TB NVMe.
Don't bother.

You can hardly notice the difference between NVME and SATA.

>950 pro owner

>>61647239
Ah I see. Not really familiar with it, I just see it as a new shiny thing I must try.

>>61647155
Ryzen 7 for most cases as it is better rounded and has a better upgrade path currently. Or wait for Coffee Lake and see how that goes.

>>61647155
Ryzen is a fad, screenshot this

>>61647203
Probably this week they'll get some paint stripper samples. I've heard the samples will be limited from the Tech Deals channel so probably not a lot of them will receive samples.

If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well.

So I got given an old Dell OptiPlex which I'm in the process of adding a gpu to.

What do you guys reckon? (Yes I know the PSU is torture)

CPU: i5-4570k
Mobo: MIH81R Tigris
PSU: 290w Chinese shit
GPU: MSI 1050ti X 4GB
RAM: 8GB old DDR3, Dell provided
DVDrw
Storage: Toshiba 1tb 7200rpm (don't laugh)
Cooling: Dell stock fan (think it's 80-82cm and 1 case fan (similar size)

Will I blow up the PSU or motherboard with this setup?

PCPartPicker has me at 258w, but that's with substituted ram a different psu model and different case and cpu fan as I don't have the model/make and I'm not pulling them out to check.

>>61647330
haha

>>61647410
Pretty sure you won't blow it up with a 1050ti, make sure it's a 75w one without addidtional power cables. People put 8800gtx ovens in their 320w dells years ago without problem.

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>>61647410
>Will I blow up the PSU
Yep.

>or motherboard
Nope.

Don't be a retard, just buy any 400W+ PSU made by EVGA, Seasonic or Silverstone that has an 80 Plus rating and you'll be golden. It will cost you like $60 tops.

Case cooling isn't a problem, 1050Ti uses very little power, people can and do run silly GPU setups in prebuilt PC cases just for kicks and it's not a problem.

>>61647449
>>61647410
aftermarket PSUs have a 60% chance of not fitting onto a proprietary mainboard.
Also 290w is enough, they currently sell a 240w optiplex with an i7 and a RX350X.
The spec sheet for the Optiplex 9020 which I assume this is says it supports discrete graphics from Nvidia and AMD so just do it.

>>61647449
Dell has a stupid proprietary connector. If I buy a new psu it ain't gonna fit.

You think it'll blow even though my power consumption is 30w below it's output?

>>61647446
It seems that even the 75w model has the extra cable, but the techpowerup teardown I saw basically said it was pointless because the card never went over 75w

>>61647564
It's even older, it's an OptiPlex 3020. Model is from 2014...

>>61647055
TDP measures how good cooling you need. It's approximately the same as power consumption, except not really.

There pretty much isn't any way to calculate the power consumption yourself, the best you can do is look at the PSU requirements. Reviews may or may not look at the power consumption, Anandtech and Tom's hardware usually have pretty good figures I believe(even if their reviews are otherwise kind of questionable sometimes).

>>61647100
Generally getting the GPU with base amount of VRAM is a good idea, but 1060 3GB is an exception as unlike most cards, it DOESN'T really have sufficient VRAM for it's performance profile.

>>61647564
>>61647569
Hmm, didn't know Dell stuff was using proprietary stuff, thats shitty. I've put silly powerful aftermarket GPU's in prebuilts before and not encountered any issues, but I've never built in a Dell.

I assume there's no adapter you can use?

>>61647569
>You think it'll blow even though my power consumption is 30w below it's output?
It's not the wattage that is a concern, a manufacturer can write whatever wattage they want on a PSU because technically it can do that. It's the amount of rails and amps that you want to know.

Some manufacturers use dogshit PSU's to save money, others don't (e.g. server grade systems), I don't know about Dell. You'll have to look up what PSU your system is using and find out if it's shit or not.

If you can somehow run an adapter from whatever stupid proprietary connector Dell is using to a standard ATX PSU definitely go that route. $60 spent on a PSU beats dying in your sleep because your computer caught fire.

>>61646736
If srs, how so?

>>61647569
most versions I've seen don't have the connector. I've had a superclocked EVGA one that came without it. PNY makes one that has it, as do others, I'm sure. But that's an easy check before you but it.

>>61647588
doesn't matter it seems, same PSU

>>61647633
I can't say for sure it's not a standard ATX mobo but I've have 3 dells, 2 of which were BTX (and awesome as fuck, built like a tank, completeley toolless etc...) and one that was supposedly atx (never looked inside) and a HP that had a non standard ATX board.
The tip with the amps is good. Google pics tells me the two 12v rails have 14 and 16 amps.

>>61647133
4 ram slots, which yours has. your mobo only has 4 sata slots, which is used for dvd drives, hard drives, and SSD's. if you plan to use more than 4 of those, then you would need to get a pci to sata card. you'll probably be fine.

>>61647683
>>61647633
Through the fan casing, I can just about see it says 12v 0.19amps

So I assume 12volts and 19milliamps?

There doesn't seem to be any review of the unit online, but I found a version on Amazon.

>>61647794
It is a micro ATX mobo
http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/mih81r/

>>61647794
No wait, that's the PSU fan.... D'oh!

>>61644669
when a psu dies it usually takes some of the computer with it

>>61645688
>i7
>aio cooler
>paying for windows

>>61647683
Apologies, but I have no idea what that means systems wise.

Is that particularly bad or good or adequate?

is there a way to find a case with the window on the other side?

I hope the GTX1070s get cheaper again.

I hope the miners are AMD fans.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xmm4f8

Friend built me said PC for my budget of $800. How is it?

Aside from getting a 1080ti, is this essentially the best for just gaming?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m8Tw4C

>>61648190
>i5
ENJOY YOUR STUTTERING AUTISTIC PCCCC!!!!!!!!!! HAAHAHAH

>>61648190
Pretty good, but cue the onslaught of people who'll tell you to go Ryzen instead.

Since you've got a 1060 and will likely be GPU limited anyway, I'd probably agree with them in this case. You might also try and budget for 16GB of RAM, a lot of games use more than 8GB these days.

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>>61648203
>AIO CPU cooler
>hybrid gpu cooler
>650w PSU with fan

Let me guess, you've never built a high end system before and want it to be silent? You're going to be pretty upset when that PSU fan is making a shit tonne of noise and you get endless water pump whine.

Also

>5400rpm HDD

>>61648300
>>61648300
>>61648300

NEW

>>61645711
It can do everything but themes, and the activation message in the lower right is watermarked to appear on top in faint white lettering. Games work fine

>>61646340
>>61645912

Thomahawks have great bios support now. And MSIs qvl isn't AIDS to use.

>>61644820
>Kepler
was one of the best at the time

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>>61645027
enjoy paying 20% tax on it.

B B B B BASED ENGLAND

>>61647203
Linus ran Cinebench on the highest end one.

>>61649053
>the first line of nvidia gpu's to be a botnet
>best of all time
spotted the shill