/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Is it true that you should get an overpowered PSU for reliability and silent running or is it a meme to go more than 100w over your max usage?

>>61648300

Kek

Is this seriously a video Gigabyte released

>>61648592
Not a meme.

If you get a 1000W+ PSU to run a 400Wish system it'll remain passive all the time. Pretty pointlessly expensive to do it though unless you have autism and really care about noise. For most PSU's the fan noise isn't that much, but if the rest of your system is super quiet it could easily be the loudest component.

looking for a new HDD. is there any reason not to get a WD Blue? is there anything better in the same price range?

>>61648684
Hitachi has great HDDs for cheap, with amazing reliability. They're pretty underrated.

>>61648257
I don't know how i missed that HDD, thanks
Is this better?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dTnTkT

>>61648708
Not bad, people will no doubt rip on you for not going Ryzen though. Check some benchmarks for whatever games you intend to play and decide for yourself. If you're doing any productivity work Ryzen will piss and shit all over a 7700K.

Also a 1080Ti is roughly another 10% total system expenditure and will net another 30% gaming performance, something to think about.

>>61648300
is 4k gaming possible now? considering building a new rig.
are there any graphics cards that can run TF2 on max, 4k, and 120fps?

>>61648820
>is 4k gaming possible now?
1080Ti does 4K ultra 60FPS in its sleep.

>are there any graphics cards that can run TF2 on max, 4k, and 120fps?
Yeah the 7970 came out in 2012 if memory serves me correct.

>>61648855
What about the newest games on max, 120fps? like the new hitman?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/TpKPBP

About to pull the trigger on my first gaming build.

Anything here look out of place? Already a little over budget. (Australia)

>>61648878
the ssd is too small, 500gb is what i consider minimum for OS. it fills up fast!
pretty sure you're paying too much for that HDD, dunno about aussie prices though.
monitor is too small(atleast for me), consider 23" or 27"
pretty sure you're gonna have problems with that small PSU.

>>61648877
I doubt it. I've got a 1080Ti and Hitman and it sits at 100% GPU usage at 1440p on max at somewhere north of 60FPS. If you're wanting 120FPS in everything you'll have to wait until better CPU's exist, and given the number of single threaded games out there you'll be waiting a very, very long time.

>>61648878
>>61648922
Pretty much what he said. A lot of games are 50GB or more these days, by the time you've got your OS installed and account for the amount of dead space on an SSD that's like three games.

>>61648765
how about this for a ryzen build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JckcD8
would be using the stock cooler because i don't want to wait a month for the manufacturer to send out an AM4 plate.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GgbtD8
How's my build? Budget of $4k, meant for gaming 1440p 165Hz on AAA games. Are any parts just meme and useless, or any bottlenecks?

>>61648926
was considering 1440p but i feel like might aswell just jump on 4k and save myself the trouble of upgrading my monitors again. my current ones are over 6years old.
what about sli? wasn't it directx12 that would allow you to run multiple cards and get linear performance gain?

>>61648877
I'm waiting for whatever takes the 1080 Ti's place in the next progression. I'm looking for a similar jump from my 980 Ti as I experienced when moving from my 770 SC. Though I wouldn't mind a similar jump as the one from the 5770 to the 770.

>>61648974
you don't need to buy separate thermal paste, the cpu cooler comes with some on it.
i'd consider a 850w psu or higher

Where can i get windows 10 for cheap?

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>>61648978
Yeah I'd definitely recommend 4K for a 1080Ti, at 1440p I'm finding it to be kind of underutilized in a lot of games. Not like it's a bad thing, but it kind of means you're throwing money down the drain on an unnecessary GPU.

SLI is pretty much dead at this point and there's no evidence to suggest that it'll make a comeback any time soon, see pic related. Nvidia has killed support for anything above 2-way SLI for anything other than benchmark usage, and even 2-way SLI is very limited in it's support recently.

The 'problem' of not hitting 120FPS in a lot of games is primarily going to be a CPU bottleneck issue in most games anyway unless you're running a retardedly high resolution, SLI isn't going to help.

Honestly though my monitor is 110Hz and so long as FPS is above 60 I don't really care. In my opinion super high FPS is only important in first person shooters.

>>61648922
>>61648946
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BL48tJ
Swapped out the SSD, monitor and PSU. Looking a little better?

Thanks

>>61649146
breddy gud, that's an ultrawide monitor though, check you like that kind of shit first.

>>61649062
get 7, you can still upgrade if you claim to use the accessibility features. there's no actual check, so they just take you at your word

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hyuck hyuck

more brackets == better performance

>>61649322
>building on a carpet
>AIO cooler
>assrock mobo
Unironically kys you are self.

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https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD1700BBAEBOX/dp/B06WP5YCX6/

Should I do it?

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>>61649335
nothing had happened senpai

>>61649131
free-sync or g-sync?
if you go nvidia, will you have free-sync?
not that it seems to matter so much to me but if i'm going to buy a new gpu and monitor i'd like to have it

>>61649377
>that setup
What could possibly go wrong?

>>61649426
well I got a bit of cigarette ash in the radiator but it shook out easy. other than that runs great, I can watch YouTube in 1440p on Linux with the Nvidia drivers so I'm happy

>>61649146
is 1TB of extra storage going to be enough? and why WD blue?
what's the price difference between the 6GB and 8GB vram gpus? if it isn't too much you might aswell get a 8GB one.
still think you need +800W on PSU but i ain't sure.

>>61649377
>foil
why?

>>61649421
>free-sync or g-sync?
Neither, I don't use vsync in any games. Tearing isn't really a problem on a 110Hz display, and it sure as shit isn't a problem at 144Hz and above. I've not used Freesync or Gsync but I can't really see them being worth it unless it's a 60Hz panel.

Your mileage may vary, some people are very sensitive to stuff like frame tearing. It doesn't bother me unless I actively look for it.

>>61649491
it's mylar desu

>>61649340
nothing

>>61649456
>I can watch YouTube in 1440p
you're joking right? you can do this on your phone or tv, it doesn't require shit

>>61649462
It states there that the Wattage breakdown is 289W, why are you trying to make him buy 800 watts when 650W is fine?

>>61649555
that's probably idle though, not under load.

>>61649462
The cheapest 8GB GPU is an RX580 for an extra $70 (around $50USD). Worth it?

Should I be looking for 2TB, minimum?

>>61649591
You can click on the number to have it explained to you, retard.

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>>61649624

>>61649621
probably gonna last you longer

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>>61649591
No, the ranges pcpartpicker states for the GTX 1060 for example are 30W-120W, the 120W being under load. This means the PC ranges from 76W idle to 289W under load.

>>61649335
A friend of mine did the finishing touches on his computer at a paintball field's parking lot once.

>>61648820
No but we are not too far away, maybe next year for 4k 120 fps but probably using SLI/Crossfire compatible games.

>The secret driver doesn't exist
Whelp. The 1080 it is then.

So, since the Vega is confirmed shit (and also not shipping until september), final question is Ryzen or i7?

>>61650498
Ryzen + Nvidia looks to be the best option at the moment

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Should I buy parts for a computer now, or wait? Will there be "back to school deals"?

>>61650561
WAIT FOR VEGA

>>61650561
If you are building from scratch the radeon pack actually looks like good value.
2 free games
Combo with Ryzen
200 dollar off a FS monitor
Free heater in the winter

>>61650561
>back to school deals
kek

Depends what you're buying. If you want a top-tier GPU it isn't looking like Nvidia's next gen is going to be anything special, so you're pretty safe in buying a 1080 or 1080Ti. If you want to save some cash on a GPU it would probably make sense to wait a few months for mid-range stuff to come down 25% or so, but the savings are kind of meagre in my opinion.

I personally wouldn't buy a CPU at all in the current climate, I'd wait til early next year unless you're desperate. Were on the cusp of a Sandy Bridge tier jump, Intel is finally dropping 4 cores as their mainstream mid-tier offering.

>>61650601
Ryzen is not a good option?

>>61650652
It's breddy gudd but a 6 core 12 thread i7 will piss all over it. By the time that comes out Zen 2 or whatever the fuck AMD are calling their Ryzen refresh will be out and hopefull have some tasty IPC improvements.

>>61650677
Intel new CPU will come out this year or was in pushed back?

>>61650694
Yeah that's the expected date for the Intel release, I don't think the Ryzen refresh is due until early 2018 though.

>>61650737
What do you think of this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>61650887
>>61650737
whoops
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pm3fzM

>>61650897
Case is overkill but if you like it go for it. None of your shit requires a casing like that.

>>61650925
What case would you pick? I currently have the antec 300, loved it but I guess I want something better looking

>>61650897
Case is pretty gay and expensive for how gay it looks, but if it's to your taste then it doesn't really matter.

Rest of the build is pretty solid though. If you decide to get a different case get different fans. Ones by NXZT, Phanteks and Corsair are pretty good.

>>61650970
R5
P400s
S340
200R
These are normally the cases recommended whenever someone ask.

If pcpartpicker lists my wattage at 350W and i got a 650W PSU am I fucked?

>>61651021
Yep, your PSU will deliver too much power and your system will catch fire.

>>61648300
is that Hellmann's Mayonnaise

>>61651021
No. Unless you want muh 50% efficiency but the money you spend on the better PSU will never match the saving from that little electricity.

Is it worth it getting a Pc if I only want to spend around 500 dollars on it

>>61651186
Depends what you want to use it for.

>>61651186
you have a keyboard, monitor, and a set of headphones lying around?

>>61651213
Shitposting, anime and a few games

>>61651226
Totally doable, even more doable if you go used with a few components.

I want to make a basic HTPC out of this machine: https://support.hp.com/bg-en/document/c02131097

What should I add to it?

VEGA NANO NIGGAS
https://twitter.com/pcper/status/891843635829809152

I currently own 1600mhz ram, does upgrading for 2400mhz ram worth it for gaymin or not ?

>>61651265
>nano
>thicker than a normal pcie slot
?

>>61649322
>>61649377
>>61649456
this gets sadder and sadder as he continues to post

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>>61649322
>>61649377
>>61649456

>>61651310
Processor?
>>61651226
Absolutely

VEGA NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51SsMsUXTt8&feature=youtu.be&a

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Is there anything wrong with this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vKwrbj
And should i get a 1TB WD black or 2TB WD blue?
(I do photo/video editing, music production, light 3D modeling and gayming)

>>61651484
SSD + HDD

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p6ttD8
How am I looking here boys? Getting ready to begin ordering parts. I've only got about $10 more than I'm already spending in my budget. Ripped an optical drive from an old 2005 PC that I think should fit in with this, though I don't really have any explicit plans for using it. Anywhere I should improve a bit?

>>61651456
fx 8370

I'm thinking about going Skylake-X
Stuff marked as purchased is what I could reuse from my current build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b6G3Yr
For gaymen and video work

>>61651603
8GB isn't really enough these days in my opinion, and it's dumb to go with only one dimm. If you can only afford 8GB ever, get 2x4GB sticks, if you might be able to get the pennies in the future for 16GB, stick with your current setup of 1x8GB and add another later.

Other than that, it looks pretty good.

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>>61651603
>that psu

>>61651681
>Skylake-X
It's a housefire that will be irrelivant in 6 months, don't waste your time.

Also the Asus Strix and Gigabyte Aorus are better than the MSI Gaming and cost the same.

>>61651782
>It's a housefire that will be irrelivant in 6 months, don't waste your time.
Should I wait for Kaby Lake X but won't be at least a year?

>Also the Asus Strix and Gigabyte Aorus are better than the MSI Gaming and cost the same.
Better how? The MSI 1080 Ti with the Twin Frozr cooler is supposed to be the quietest air cooled 1080 Ti which is very important to me.

>>61651771
Got a better one? I was feeling iffy about it and the RAM.

>>61650897
Stop overpaying for trident g skill meme shit.

Corsair vengeance lpx 3200 is like 139$ +- 5$ depending on what color you pick.

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>curved monitor meme

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>>61649322
>>61649377
>>61649456

>>61651866
save up for 16gb high frequency. You'll thank yourself later if you want to pickup r5 when they're even cheaper.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XnZxBP

>>61651864
>Should I wait
I'd give it at least a month and see what Intel's pricing response (if any) is to ThreadRipper.

>Better how
Better thermals/noise. There are a few sites that have tested all three, I think TechPowerUp is one of them, the Aorus and Strix are the best. Unfortunetly I don't think there's been a roundup test yet like TomsHardware used to do where they normalise the temperatures and see how much noise a GPU needs to stay at that temperature, but the Aorus and Strix almost always come out on top in the reviews I've seen.

Honestly though I doubt there's much difference between them. I've got the Aorus Extreme card, I undervolted it as much as I could get it while staying at 2000MHz, repasted with NHT1 and set up a fan profile to run as close to 90C as possible. It's barely audible above my 600RPM case fans, even if a different card is 20-30% louder it isn't going to be a whole lot of difference.

>>61651540
I am adding an ssd later. But what should i get now?

So, is the Vega meme dead now, or will it actually be worth getting over a 1070/1080?

>>61651989
Just get the 2TB HDD, the speed differences aren't going to make much difference as once you've had an SSD anything slower feels like slow as shit garbage.

>>61651989
WD 1TB is the most value

>>61652000
Sadly a meme, it's slower than 1080 while using almost 2x as much power.

>>61652000
Get the 1080 unless you already committed to a Freesync monitor. The cost of the G-sync monitor will be offset by fire insurance if you get Vega.

>>61652000
1080 now if you need a card, otherwise wait™. $600 fury dropped down to ~$250 6 months later.

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>>61651951
Is the only issue with the PSU that I'll have to replace it if I upgrade? I don't think I'll be buying new parts anytime in the known future except maybe to stick another stick of RAM in there.

is that a good motherboard for the components?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tXsTcc

>>61652098
What year is it?

Also

>corsair builder series

I hope you have fire insurance.

>>61652087
not a matter of upgrading, you're investing in a higher quality unit that's less likely to die and potentially take other components with it. If people can run a 1080 + 7700k on a decent 450w then you can run anything on a seasonic 550w.

>>61651681
>Skylake-X
>gaymen and video work

The only reason to get SKL-X over Threadripper is AVX-512. TR gets you the same or more performance for a lot less. Not to mention you have to delid your 7820X

How many mistakes am I making ? I am just gaming on this pc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dZttD8

>>61651922
will i be able to sell the coupon for the monitor or is that against some shitty law?

>>61652182
Didn't you post this in the last thread?

Anyway, not many. If it were me I'd throw HDD in the garbage and use the extra money on a 1TB SSD, and I'd offer the AIO to my neighbor who I hate and want him to lose sleep because of the humming noise it will make 24/7.

>>61652182
looks fine, although i'd go for an air cooler or at least replace the stock fans on the h75.

>>61652117
i just need a replacement for the shittier mobo that killed itself in a heatstroke

>>61652182
That Corsair H75 is expensive for a 120mm AIO.If you OC, you need to delid the chip and get a 240mm if you really want an AIO

>>61652206
Don't do this unless you want to go to jail. I tried to sell a MW2 key I got with a 7950 once and I got 4 years in jail for fraud.

>>61652234
how do i know you arent lying on the internet for (You)s

>>61652234
bullshit

>>61652254
You want me to post my gaping asshole? Trust me it's way wider now than it was 4 years ago.

>>61649492
I still dont think ive ever seen screen tearing and I have 60hz and always have

I have seen stuttering and sudden fps dips but freesync wont fix that right?

>>61652298
>I have seen stuttering and sudden fps dips but freesync wont fix that right?
Nope.

What AM4 socket mobo will give me the best M.2/NVME room for future upgrades?

>>61652210
I might of, I come back every now and again to get a better consensus.
>>61652213
>>61652229
Alright thanks guys I'll just go with an Air cooler and call it a day

>>61652270
post it faggot

>>61652313
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#s=33&m=7&c=123&E=3&qq=1

>>61652051
Since games these days suck anyways I'm waiting on everything, meanwhile monitors and gpus will get better/cheaper.

Probably wont by shit until star citizen finishes 2 years from now or so

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gdZxBP

should i build this?

>>61652234
>>61652254
i just checked ebay and they dont allow coupons over $100 to be sold
how the fuck do i get rid of this shit then? i dont want a curved monitor

>>61652404
epic

>>61652396
>paying full price for windows

Just installed via USB and deal with the watermark or spend 20$ on keyguin.

Or, buy an old office PC for 100$ with windows 7 on it, and update to 10 with the accessibility option.

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>>61652396
>spends 6k on build but only spends $40 on a cooler
>no 1080 ti
>nex psu
>full tower
>buying windows
>1080p

>>61652404
This is now the best thread on /g/. Here's your (You)

>>61652404
Thats honestly the best thing I've seen on this site

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>>61652445
>pay $100 for an old pc to upgrade windows instead of buying windows 10 for $100

>>61652468
>he doesn't know about goatse

>>61652404
i have not once in my entire life looked at a picture and felt like actually vomitting. and i hung out on /b back around 2009 (so newfag by oldfag standards, not newfag by cancerfag standards where everyones a newfag today) and i seen alot. but this takes the cake, idk if its because its like in full 8k or something but it is putrid and vomit inducing.

>>61652404
Nothing like a good ol' goatse to get the nostalgia going.

my 2600k is almost dead . i want to buy ryzen even tho the 7700k is faster in games , i don t want to giive my money to jewintel .

now i want the 1600x or 1600 , but what i m not sure about is the motherboard , i want a mobo that can handle high speed ram like 3200 or 3600

>>61652628
>2600k is almost dead
Exactly, it's almost dead, not yet. Wait until the end of the year when Intel gives the 7700K another two cores, then upgrade.

>>61652628
wait for 7nm ryzen

>>61652628
1600 OC to 3.9 GHz and MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon. Upgrade to Zen 3 in 2020/2021

Does it make sense to focus on power supply / case for my first build? I'd like to get liquid cooling + a high end power supply first off (along with good thermal paste), so I don't end up damaging the expensive parts I buy later.

How would I go about allocating, say, a $500-600 budget to a PC that is SAFE and that I can buy an expensive GPU / CPU / fast RAM / phat SSD for later. Basically I want to avoid overheating / damaging the parts at all costs

I was thinking:
>Liquid cooling kit + case
>1000W psu
>1TB HDD (I don't mind managing the memory for a bit with usb stix)
>8GB ram

and then that's about as far as I've thought it through

>>61652681
Liquid cooling is a meme and so is overheating. Off the shelf AIO's are shit because they have a (very small) chance of leaking and they make pump droning noises which air coolers don't. Unless you're a retard and try to put a Crossfire Vega setup in a passive case, and you happen to live in Brazil or somewhere else where it's hot as shit, components don't overheat. It's not the era of Fermi anymore and modern parts run plenty cool under normal circumstances. There's also absolutely no reason to buy a 1000W PSU for a single card setup (which is what you should be going for) unless you are massively obsessive about fan noise.

Just post a pcpartpicker list of what you're thinking of getting. No one can really say what to get, but if you're saying you want a 1000W PSU and 8GB of RAM you are either quite clueless or baiting.

So, is it worth buying windows 7 or is there a way to download that fucking shit, im not paying greedy jews 80 dollars for something i have in my old laptop.

does anyone know how the vega bundles will work exactly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_3-GDOWFXg this guys says you have to use your discounts all at the same time. Can you just turn down one of the discounts? The specific monitor they are offering a discount on is still $700 with the discount and it's curved. I dont want it at all.

>>61652652
>>61652661
>>61652675
mhh did not expect these answers .. guess i ll just wait keeping the 2600k at stock to avoid more problems

>>61652759
Def clueless, very glad this thread exists

and yeah i'm brazilian LMAO that's why i'm worried

anyway why is 8gb of ram bad? I've had some people recommend like 16 gb which seemed like hella overkill so I figured I'd go with like 8

why, do i only need like 4?

also I assume a 500 psu would be fine hten

>>61652838
8 is the bare minimum these days with bloated shitware and games using ever higher fidelity graphics. Hell, even 16 isn't enough for at least a couple of games that I have.

>>61652838
the opposite .. you need 16 gb and a less powerfull PSU

>>61652838
Like other anons said, 8GB isn't really enough for gaymen these days, assuming you're gaymen. 500W PSU would be fine if we knew what sort of specs you were going for, more important is picking a quality manufacturer like Seasonic, Silverstone, EVGA and maybe Corsair.

>>61652869
>even 16 isn't enough for at least a couple of games that I have
jaysus christ wtf games are you playan dawg

>>61652945
yeah i figured it would be worth it to spend a little bit of money to get something good for the thing that's going to be powering the whole shebang rofl

>the year is 2011
>HURR 8GB AND AN I5 IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR GAYMEN
>ONLY IDIOTS BUYING 16GB AND I7
>be me today
>smug with my 2600k and 16GB of RAM

>>61653055
GTA 5 works better with 16 gb for example

>>61653055
The most modern game that I play that gets bottlenecked by 16GB of RAM is X-Plane 11, but I know that it's unlikely people here play flight sims.

I need a new CPU and Mobo lads what are some good choices

GPU: RX470
Current CPU: AMD A10 6700
Budget: poorfag so I would prefer if was under $150 for both but if it's really worth it I would spend an extra $50

>>61653065
You can't really blame people for giving that advice back in the day, no one could have expected the Sandy Bridge platform to last 6 years+ like it has. Back then an i7 made absolutely zero difference in gaymen, and neither did RAM over 8GB. The truth is even now there aren't many games where an i7 and 16GB makes much difference, and if it is, you sure as shit aren't using a 2011 GPU in that system.

>>61653114
Ryzen 3

>>61653118
There's plenty of games today that use 8 threads or more.

>>61653114
R3 1200 plus this ASrock board, short one VRM heatsink of being the best thing ever
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157763&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=11552995&PID=8092836&SID=

>>61653142
Ryzen 3 is 120 dollars. With a motherboard that isn't shit he will go over 200 dollars.

>>61653114
G4560. No idea why the fuck morons removed it from the OP.

>>61653118
Sandy Bridge will be eternal
When I upgrade, this 2600k and mobo is going into a facebook machine for my dad
My SLI 780 Ti's on the other hand...are not eternal

>>61653142
>>61653152
Which ryzen3 would be better? Ive mostly been playing total war recently

>>61653152
Gamers Nexus or whatever did a roundup on a bunch of games recently and there still isn't much difference between 2500K and 2600K even now.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/75782-amd-reveals-rx-vega-price-performance-specs.html
>... much of the information is still under NDA until when reviews are supposed to drop on August 14th or four days after Threadripper hits shelves. There's also some conflicting information about in-store availability with some of AMD's documents stating late August while others say early September.

This has to be the worst launch in history.
What the fuck. They still expect us to wait?!

>>61653159
Because the G4560 is dead, intel killed supply and miners bought whatever was left. Dual core for $90 from resellers is not worth it.

>>61653069
>>61653103
Hmmmmm, gotta be honest lads I don't really need a good build, any gaming rig will probably feel like heaven to me, i'm typing this on a 2007 laptop, i currently play vidya at like 720p on low settings to get like ~55 fps andt some rpgs like new vegas at ~20fps which is aight cuz they're single player

this build is more just to get me a solid foundation of things that I can expand on later, and atm I don't have any games that really require more than 8gb of ram (except maybe modded STALKER with a-life shenanigans and dorf with worldgen modding)

i'm sort of a more old school gamer guy anyway

So I think:
>8gb is fine for now, I'll manage avoiding bloatware
>1TB HDD is fine because I can just manage my stuff carefully

>liquid cooling case probably because brazilaylmao, pls don't destroy my parts 3rd world country life
>good motherboard that permits me to expand later, buy more ram
>mid range cpu and gpu, I'd like to be able to run things at 1080p with high textures and maybe some dynamic lighting, all other graphical stuff is just fluff imo
>would be nice to also be streaming capable of 720p / decent video and audio quality with a cam for me and my brodies

sorry for wasting ur guys' time ill get smarter soon i promise

>>61653183
1300 comes out of the box clocked higher but that's basically it. If you already have an aftermarket cooler then you can just discard the included cooler and OC the 1200.

I am an insider
Ryzen is a meme
In 8-10 months 30%+ of Ryzen CPUs will fail and AMD will declare bankruptcy by 2019
Invest in Intel and Nvidia NOW

guyse pls help

I traded in a paor of old phones for a wd green 120gb SSD and now am planning to buy a new one, in the 500gb range, should I just get an 850 Evo or splash out for an 850 Pro or a Sandisk Extreme Pro 480gb? I'm intrigued by the more expensive drives' consistency

>>61653202
>Because the G4560 is dead, intel killed supply and miners bought whatever was left
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8gKhP6/intel-pentium-g4560-35ghz-dual-core-processor-bx80677g4560
More lies from the AMD shills

>90 dollars from resellers
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01NCE8T92?SubscriptionId=AKIAJGZZEZH27SCMC24Q&tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=386001&creativeASIN=B01NCE8T92

Even more fucking lies

Kill yourself shill. You are probably the faggot that changed the OP.

>>61653223
Can confirm.

>>61653190
Literally in the title
Intel i5-2500K Benchmark in 2017: Finally Showing Its Age

>>61653183
1200, just told you meng.

>>61653230
850 evo. Anything else is meh tier or out of your usage case

>>61653266
It's cheap so it betger not disappoint then thanks anon

>>61653252
Are you incapable of reading my post?

>>61653231
>$67 plus $11 shipping
Oh wow so it's actually $80, you really got me there.

>>61653288
>We include shipping prices now
Wow.

>you really got me there.
I sure did. It is not out of stock and it is not selling at 90.

Keep backpedaling faggot.

>>61653258
>>61653213
>>61653142

Thanks for the help y'all

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>>61653279
Average usually isn't bad, depends on the game certainly, but minimum in some games is going to suck with only 4 threads

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>>61653294
>literally $80 on amazon
>for a dual core
The absolute state of intel

>>61652823
PLS RESPOND

>>61653311
>Moving the goalpost
What happened to it being out of stock?
What happened to it being sold by resellers at 90 dollars?

>>61653324
You pay for the price of the card + 100 dollars more. The 100 dollars extra entitles you to
>2 free games
>100 dollars off Ryzen 7 + mobo
>200 dollars off a single selected model
We have no idea how the latter 2 works if you can only purchase from a specific retailer or any retailer and just mail in to get a rebate straight from AMD/Reseller.

>>61653309
Yeah, and just like I said, there's barely any difference between the 2600K and 2500K.

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>>61653328
>the
>absolute
>state
>of
>intel
Stop shilling no one will buy your shit sand merchant

>>61653342
>AMD pajeet forced to eat crow and resorts to endless shitposting to deflect the fact he was made to look like a moron
Its not out of stock and its not 90 dollars

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>>61653365
Yeah you showed me. Just look at all these people buying Pentiums for the great price of 80 bucks.

>>61653387
>Just look at all these people buying Pentiums for the great price of 80 bucks.
But i thought you said it was out of stock?!

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So what do you think is gonna happen with nvidia GPU prices? Should i wait until anything new is released, or should I just wait until black friday sales to buy one?

I'm probably gonna end up with a 1070 or 1080.

>>61653400
We all still love you despite your autism anon.

>>61653415
Sure Pajeet. You need that boost since you have been shilling overtime due to Vega being absolutely shit. You need a win despite being called out for flat out lying. Sad.

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>>61653423
It's ok man, let it go

>>61653406
>he thinks GPU's will go on sale on black friday
Dumbass.

>>61653406
>he think that Nvidia/AMD and board partners will let actual deals happen
Have fun buying a card that's been "discounted" to MSRP.

>>61653429
>let it go
Only in the loo Pajeet. Or are toilets out of stock in India?

>>61653439
Anything under $500 would be great at this point.

If both R5 1400 & 1500X are overclocked to 4GHz at 1.35v with 3000MHz memory, everything stable, with the 1500X having double the L3 cache, is there going to be a huge difference in anything, or is it just going to be negligible?
I'm looking at buying a 4/8 core/thread Ryzen for a decent middle-ground, while still having the AM4 upgrade path for future Zen.
Interested in any tasks from gayming, rendering, encoding, shitposting, or whatever else.

>>61653445
>Anything under $500 would be great at this point.
The 1080 goes under 500 regularly on sales. Wait for them.

>>61648300
>Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined
wow do you fu/g/wits always give such ass sucking advice?
consider this: the most rapid hardware advancements occur in the ssd and gpu departments. if you are planning on building a rig and adding something later, wouldn't it make better sense to put off buying one or both of those instead of dumping money into a part that will become dated literally faster than any other part?
use your heads. i know poppers are fun but nvidia and samsung only give you them to prepare your anus

>>61653445
Well you can always buy second hand. There's a 1070 Strix in my area for something like $424.
I know that was the new price a month ago, but you gotta be okay with getting fucked in the ass if you're buying a card in the current year of the buttcoin.

Having a problem with my Ryzen build. Went with an MSI B350m gaming pro for budget reasons and the thing cant boot into windows with 2 sticks of ram. I've tested both kits and both slots on the motherboard and it boots fine when there's only 1 stick of ram. So stupid!

I've even set the timings manually and nothing.

>>61652129
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020101na
How is this one instead? I don't want to fuck with mail-in rebates.

>>61653479
Is it the RAM on the QVL?

>>61653479
Post ram specs.

>>61653499
QVL?
>>61653503
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2400 14-16-16-31

>>61653522
QVL = Qualified Vendors List

>>61653522
>QVL?
Good job. You dunce.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11658/the-amd-ryzen-3-1300x-ryzen-3-1200-cpu-review/17

i3, i5 and pentiums are deprecated.

>>61653539
>>61653527
Well. Thanks for the help anyway.

Clearly there's very little support for 8gb kits (2x4) Which is what I went with. support for CMK8G* Isn't there.

rip

>>61653563
Get new RAM or try send your RAM back otherwise your SoL

>>61653589
The serial number is really close to what's on the vendors list, you really think that's the cause?

It did boot once or twice.

Either way I guess I'm getting different ram.

>>61653618
Really close is not close enough or good enough. Not on the list = no guarantee to work.

For a Ryzen 1700 with a 1080 ti, would I be risking any sort of bottlenecking with a B350 motherboard, or should I get an x370? (I was under the assumption one would only need an X370 for SLI, which is not something i'm looking for)

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jMXLm8
I asked anons yesterday about my build (I have a i7 4790k), but they told me to ditch the i7 and go for the Ryzen. Please fill in the blanks in the pc part picker link. I need a GPU (1080 TI or 1080 is fine), Tower with good airflow, CPU Cooler, Motherboard, and memory. I wanted the R1 Cryorig, but it said it was incompatible and I need a part for it.
This was the build I came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CrwPpb it has no CPU cooler and tower. It's probably shit, so please recommend fill in the blanks.

>>61653708
Lmao. No.

>>61653713
>I have a i7 4790k
Don't bother upgrading until Zen 2.

>>61653713
Also I already have a working PSU, storage, and the Ryzen I will buy later when I see a nice price for it.

>>61653713
No need for a CPU cooler the 1700 comes with a nice stock cooler and that works just fine.

For the tower the recommended ones whenever people ask are R5, P400s, S340 and the 200R.

>>61653716
any recommendations on a B350 that won't die in 3 months?

>>61648604
A redditor rendered it

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Swapping out the cpu, mobo and ram but keeping my hdd. Some people say that their oem windows works after doing so. Is there any truth to this? Pic unrelated.

Should I get an intel or AMD cpu if I already have an AMD GPU?

>>61653760
Something not by Asrock.

>>61653769
Sometime it does. Sometime it doesn't. Windows license servers work in mysterious ways.

>>61653724
Zen 2 better than the Ryzen or something?
>>61653728
Any recommendation on a motherboard?

>>61652396
Pretty sure you could get something at a higher clock at the same price range for your ram.

I don't think it's necessary for you to have 3 of the same exact monitor if you plan on using each for a different purpose. Especially since it's a TN Panel

You could buy a Windows key for probably 3.50
There is no reason to have a DRW, unless you really want blu-ray

Why do you need 2 sets of speakers and headphones?

I thought the Xonar wasn't that great
Wifi adapter consider Asus, TP-Link, or Linksys (probably cheaper) just my opinion


Corsair RMx series isn't so bad and cheaper iirc
the 750w is on sale for 104 (dk what that is in CAD)

>>61653814
B350 that isn't by Asscock

>>61653769
Call customer service for activation and tell them that the number systems your installation has been on is ONE. Always one. If that doesn't work then you're SOL

>>61653851
If this fails, get a 5-20 dollar key off the internet.

Is it a good idea to sell my RX 480? and get vega?

If i get a case with slots for 5 fans, should i use 5 fans, or would it make too much noise?

>>61653789
>>61653851
>>61653875
Even though I pirated it? What is supposed to happen after swapping my shit out and booting up for the first time? Will it still load windows?

>>61653982
Everything will run but it will just be an unactivated copy of windows so certain features will be locked out.

>>61653976
probably not
apparently it won't come out til September and it's not looking that appealing imo
if you really want to though, you could try selling it to a miner and get $$$

>>61653982
well if you use a similar cpu architecture you *probably* should not run into any major problems.

>>61654005
yeah im selling it to a miner

almost a year old and 50 usd more expensive

>>61654001
Like the black wallpaper with the watermark?
>>61654009
Going from a6-5400k to g4560

>>61653981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OmkmluAYAQ

>>61654047
Yes.

>>61653982
I suggest doing a backup of all your important things
I also suggest you just doing a clean install after sapping to avoid issues.
You can use an activator, but I say buy a key for around 3-10 dollars. They're legit and not flagged

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all/products/1700a39g
Anyone here ever bought anything from siliconlottery? Are they trustworthy?

>>61649146
The supernova NEX is an overpriced firecracker

>>61654069
You mean there's a chance of me losing my files? I've read that I may lose my installed programs, is that right?
>>61654063
Thanks.

>>61653481
Better but still sucks

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will i have to re install drivers or lose anything if i switch windows to an ssd from a hdd?

its a fairly new build with not much on the hard drive, so i could easily backup any important files. im not concerned with losing them. the inconvenience of redoing drivers, even if it take minutes, is annoying enough for me to want to know how to avoid it. ive got one of those win10 flashdrives that can take the os off the boot device and then be used again. pic not related, but i might pull the trigger on buying the sdd in like a month.

>>61654138
Always do a clean installation if you are moving your OS between drives.

>>61653713
The Corsair AX860 is really good, but also really expensive
A cheaper Seasonic or Super Flower unit would do just fine
The boxed cooler of the 1700 should be fine, but you can always get a fancier cooler
bequiet Dark Rock 3 is a nice one and its really silent even at 100% fan speed
And get at least a 2TB HDD

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>>61653814
Zen 2 is going to be Athlon all over again or AMD's version of Sandy Bridge, the CPU generation that keeps on keeping on when overclocked.
Zen 2 will allow to overclock up to 5GHz. AMD's borrowing some IBM tech in 7nm.

>>61653814
Expect Ryzen with about 10% better IPC and higher clockspeeds from Zen 2
The 4790k you got should be fine until that comes out

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>>61654191
Comfy pic, anon

>>61654214
If all you do is game the 4790k at 4.4Ghz and up should last another half a decade before 6 core/12 thread really becomes so prevalent and mainstream.

>>61653713
How about this PSU?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vR648d/seasonic-prime-platinum-850w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-850pd

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Are these just a meme, or are they actually better than air coolers?

>>61654256
>Platinum
Even a Gold is overkill. Silver or Bronze will do.

>>61654275
>Not radiator
Shit

when can I preorder the rx vega?

>>61654298
>Preordering before benches
Woah. Is this the power of Raja?

>>61654275
Most budget air coolers like a Cryorig H7/M9i or 212 EVO match it or do better

>>61654256
Now that is a good PSU.

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>>61653309
>2600k still relevant

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https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-RX-Vega-Linux-Driver

>>61654175
I have the AX860 already anon and I'll get a 2TB HDD anon, thanks. Also what's the difference between caviar blue and black?
>>61654191
>>61654214
Alright anons I'll wait for the Zen 2. I'll use the bare bones integrated graphics of the i7 for now.
>>61654256
I got the AX860 already anon. It's a spare part of mine. Thanks for the suggestion though

ok, think i finally got it, find one thing that could be improved
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xKRBBP

>>61654434
>I'll use the bare bones integrated graphics of the i7 for now.
What.
Prepare to buy a GPU you'll carry over to 2018 during stocking periods. Retailers and online stores like newegg have a time frame, you just have to predict it.

computer?

I'm opening my own startup, or at least I'm preparing for it. Basically I'm forking OpenVZ to offer a certain kind of platform to run applications. So I need a machine for nested virtualization (Running my OpenVZ fork in a VM and running containers in that)

I live in Switzerland, but Swiss sites are really expensive and I'm poor, so I was looking around mostly on German websites (Alternate, Mindfactory etc) to build a computer for good virtualization but I end up always almost-spending a lot of cash.

Now I found that there are several websites who offer s second hand high-end workstations from both Dell and Lenovo. Is there any con in getting such a used workstation?

Like this, I would never manage to get such specs for a similar price when building new:

https://www.itsco.de/workstation-dell-precision-t5610-2x-intel-eight-core-xeon-e5-2650-v2-8x-2-6ghz.html

What would you do on a, let's say 3k budget for nested virtualization? Build your own? Wait for Thread Ripper and build your own? Get a used work station? Kill myself?

It would run: 4 connected VMs, running a total of maybe 8 VMs, host system Gentoo, first level guests OpenVZ/CentOS and third level guests are also mostly CentOS + 1 IDE (IntelliJ) and it should be able to compile Go code at an acceptable speed while running those.

>>61654807
He's making his very own botnet

>>61654531
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xKRBBP
Strixx, Aorus and MSI Gaming are better coolers.

>>61653452
it is dependant on the GPU. Anything below a 1080 will be a difference of less than %5

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKmGZ8
Budget is pretty loose. Just want to game the most intensive games with the most instensd mods. Or maybe do 144p Minecraft on minimum if I can even do that. Any bottlenecking?

>>61655257
Fuck off, retard

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do i do it anons

Here's a wierd situation /pcbg/.
So, i finished setting all my overclocks and all was good and i went for a quick cpu-z
and cinebench benchmarks only to find out that my scores suck ass.
So i spend a couple of hours troubleshooting and i opened task manager(i'm using windows 10)
and i threw another cpu-z bench to see my cpu usage and suddenly i get amazing scores.
That's when i realise that for whatever reason whenever i open task manager my cpu performs much better.
I tested this on heaven benchmark too and also in games and i'm getting much better fps when having
task manager running.

What the fuck /pcbg/ i googled this and i seem to be literally the only person experiencing this.

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Just ordered these. It's been almost ten years since I last upgraded my hardware.
Are adults even allowed to be this excited?

>>61655850
Specs

>>61655900
No GPU?
Please don't say Vega because they just announced the radeon pack.

>>61655914
I'm trying not to overindulge and am going to wait until my next paycheck.
I have to admit that I was eyeing the cheapest Vega, but I'll probably settle for a RX 580 if any are available next month

>>61655817
get faster ram 3000 or 3200mhz
change psu to supernova g2 / g3 if you can
no need for a slim cooler in mid t ower case
shit monitor, consider paying extra for viewsonic xg2401
1080ti is still an overkill for 1080p144hz IMO, 1070 would be enough.

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tell me why i shouldnt upgrade to vega 64 from my 1070

>>61656019
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Quiet-BK018-Dark-Cooler/dp/B00HPX7IKU/?tag=logicaincre05-21 this a better pick?

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Does anyone have any clue or any idea when people can buy 570/580s at MSRP?
Card broke a week ago and a 1050ti or 1060 3gb sounds like something I'll regret in the future.

is budget thermal paste okay or should i shill out for the good stuff

I bought 2x4GB kit of 2666MHz memory. If I overclock it to 3000 (if possible), and then later add another of the same branded kit and overclock it to 3000 too, will that work?
I remember seeing some shit about Ryzen only liking 2x# kits, but have I locked myself into having to sell the 2x4 for a 2x8 kit later if I want 16GB?
The motherboard I got supports some 4x4 & 4x8 kits, but if they're listed at 4x, would that mean a specifically 4x4 kit, or would it mean (2x)2x4?
When the parts ship, I'll contact Ayysus to see if it's possible, but for now I'm just left with questions.

>>61654138
Use minitool particion wizard it easily moves it in one go.

>>61656216
Some man at the local shop told me to come back after a month.

>>61656216
>570/580
>MSRP
>ever
Nice joke anon.
A few days until RX Vega drops, so either Just Wait™ for that, or get a slightly-higher-than-retail 1080/Ti.
I'm in the same situation. I just want a 470/570 for a reasonable price.

>>61656251
As someone on an Athlon 860K overclocked to 4.6GHz at 1.4v, it dropped 100% load temps down from about 86 on the stock stuff, to about 73 with Cooler Master Master Gel Pro. Realistic load was about 68 on stock, and 61 on the same CM stuff.
Since I got it for $6, I'd personally have to say it can be decent.

>>61655906
msi b350 tomahawk mobo
corsair 2x8gb vengeance lpx 3200mhz running at 3200mhz 16-18-18-36 2T timings
Ryzen 5 [email protected] on stock no throttle
Zotac geforce gtx 1080 amp! [email protected] 11gbps
and a samsung 960 evo nvme and a corsair force gs ssd running windows 10.

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I ordered some Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut online.
Is liquid metal thermal paste really that good? My laptop's 750M goes to 92*C and then throttles itself. Cleaned up and running Arctic MX-4 goes to 84*C but I really want lower temps.
Can I use liquid metal on my desktop's dGPU VRAM modules?

>>61648974
You can get the Noctua D15 AM4 edition on Amazon for $89 right now

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>>61649377

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>>61652366
>star citizen in 2 years

>>61649322
>>61649377
I don't think I've ever been this freaked out in my life anon.

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>>61652836
I upgraded from a 3770k to a Ryzen 7 and I would never go back. Just do it if you want and can afford it. And you can always upgrade to Zen 2 or 3 later on the same board

>>61649456

>I can watch YouTube in 1440p

nigger my 4600 does that with its IGP

HELP!

I got a Hyper TX3 EVO universal cooler it has parts for intel and AMD sockets.

Although my motherboard says the CPU socket is AMD4

Do I really need a new cooler?

Would semen be good thermal paste lads?

>>61656582
Name your rig 'Little auschwitz'

>>61654073
>LLC level 3
>1.4V

That's going to exceed 1.6V at peak easily. Do not run that unless you want to kill your system very quickly

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>>61655900
Get excite, anon, it's okay

>>61656565
>Australia
...and? Don't tell me you're surprised by a $1500 price tag?
It's $1055 on Newegg, plus $45 shipping to my place.
That extra $400 goes to the "Fuck off we're full." tax.

>>61656634
Those girls got some decent legs to be quite honest with you.
Also, I agree, get excited other anon that I can't be arsed quoting.

>>61656573
>Hyper TX3 EVO
>Versatile all-in-one mounting solution supporting the latest Intel® LGA 1366/1156/1155/1151/775 and AMD AM4
>and AMD AM4
I'd imagine you'd be all good mate.

>>61656729
It says I have to get the bracket separate from their website

the bracket it out of stock.

time for a new cooler..

if you buy the 1300x and use a a-series mobo for not OC'ing will you still get that additional processing power?

Monitor just died. Turns on for a second and then blackscreens.

What's the best monitor for the money I can get on short notice I can grab to replace it? Looking to spend ~$150 max.

>>61657570
I've had good experiences with ASUS.
This looks pretty cheap, and it's IPS too.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236781

>>61657668
I had been looking at these, but I hear mixed things. Also not sure what to do about size/refresh rate/etc. Haven't bought a monitor in more than 10 years. Figures it was the newer one that died, too.

https://m.costco.com/Dell-SE2417HG-23.6%22-Full-HD-Monitor-.product.100306250.html

https://m.costco.com/Dell-SE2717HR-27%22-Full-HD-Monitor.product.100337050.html

>>61657722
Basically, unless you're some counterstrike fag, a 60hz IPS monitor of your budget-fulfilling resolution and screen size is the best you're going to want. Within IPS monitors there's a few distinctions, as well as among the kinds of LEDs in the screen, but if you're looking into that stuff then you don't REALLY have just a $150 budget.

>>61648678
Doesnt buying an over powered psu end up drawing more power than it should?

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Thank you /pcbg/, I love my PC you guys helped me build in Feb.

>>61648706
The only HDDs i buy.

>>61657785
I hate CounterStrike. I am, however, a person who plays video games. So... yeah. Like I said, monitor that died is more than 10 years old. So anything I buy will probably be better. Just looking to get the most bang as quickly as possible. I have heard those Dells have an issue where they die 6 months in, though. So I'm hesitant as hell. I wish electronics were made to some quality standard these days.

>>61657847
Well my oldest Asus is a little over 4 years old and the only problems I've had were related to a bad HDMI cable and some shitty video card drivers, so they've got my endorsement. Just buy from a place with a good return policy or a warranty if you're super nervous.

>>61657898
Hmm. What's the difference between this one and the one you linked that I'm missing?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305

>>61658121
Is that one I linked right in this post lacking the IPS display? Hmm. That would explain it. And that's probably one of the more desirable features for me personally given how I always had a big fucking issue with vertical viewing angle when sitting back to watch movies or when setting the fucker up in general.

The gold color of the bezel is a thing easily fixed with some electrical tape. So that isn't an issue.

>>61658400
Yeah. Oddly they're both the same price when not on sale. Personally, I use the MX239H and MX259H, but they're a little over your budget.

>>61658437
>Oddly they're both the same price when not on sale.
Well, the one I linked has a 1ms refresh instead of a 5ms refresh. And while it's arguably trivial as hell (and logically lowers the lifespan of the monitor), gamers (not game-playing individuals, but morons) will pay $50 more just for that minor advantage.

>>61658478
Also, according to this Asian dude on Youtube, anything beyond 5ms response on a standard refresh rate monitor is totally, absolutely, immeasurably pointless. Only matters for 144hz.

>>61648300
Why does this webm exist?

>>61649062
Dreamspark

If you have any sort of college account, you probably have it

>>61659061
And it's also edu edition, for minimal spying.

Tell me about the RX Vega. Are Nvidia going to lower their price for the 1070 in reaction?

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