/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>61327658
first for fuck anime

is this a good dac
https://www.amazon.com/FX-Audio-Optical-Coaxial-Amplifier/dp/B01HERNVQQ?th=1

>>61327858
Should be fine.

>>61327858
I'd be wary of Chi-Fi with wallwarts. There's a decent chance the wallwart will be noisy. I'd stick to USB power for Chi-Fi.

HD600 > your headphones.

>>61327977
This is accurate.

>>61327858
was just looking at these to power some hd 600's, im hoping there fine cuz ima prob get em

>>61327977
>HD600>HD600
Okay.

>>61327977
my msr7's are great tho

so I know jack shit about audio splitters and I need some advice

my mic works fine on my desktop, but Im using a splitter for my craptop(thinkpad) and my voice is barely coming in at all. I bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LM0ZGK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and Im wondering if anyone here has any experience with it

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>>61327658
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

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What did Sennheiser mean by this?

>>61328159
This webm kills the snapheiser troll.

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>>61328159
>>61328201
Now try it with the HD 600 and report back

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>Budget
~150 USD
>Location
United States
>Source
iPhone, PC, etc.
>Type of headphone
IEM preferred
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Shouldn't be painful after hours of wear
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
ATH-M50, HD558

Basically looking for the cheapest thing I can find to upgrade from these, if I can do that while spending less than 150 if possible I'd like to do so.

>>61328248
MK5

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Can someone inform me about sound signatures?

I'm looking into getting new Headphones and plan on going to different stores to see what kind of sound signature i like

I was looking at CB-1's and thought they would be very nice to get yet I've never tried flat/neutral sound signature before

I don't know what kind of sound signature my headphones i have at the moment are because they are not that well known (Rosewill Prelude Over Ear) what would you guys recommend i do?

>>61328234
The HD598 design is superior to the HD600/HD650 design. It's just a more modern design that's comfier and more durable.

Too bad the sound is complete shit with drivers that shit itself when any high impedance source is used.

>>61328086
You have the exact setup i'm planning on buying. What do you think of it? How do the pads feel after heavy use?

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anything more like the Boomstick? pic very related

is this the best thing or is there better things that do this?

>>61327977
(HD600 > HD650) ? FALSE : TRUE;

>>61328508
Dragonfly Black

I ain't a poorfag no mo

What should I buy to upgrade my Philips Fidelio X2?

>>61328464
Is the 598 that bad? I bought a pair on the prime day deal

>>61328581
It's great for the price. Only plebs have high impedance sources anyways.

>>61328234
Will you send me money for a new headband for my 650's if I promise to film myself doing the snapheiser?

>>61328509
?true:false, unless you're trying to troll us.

>>61328464
So why does Sennheiser refuse to update the 600/650?

>>61328600
Put up a kickstarter. I'll chip in.

>>61328508
Is that a niggerbass equalizer or what the shit

>>61328682
They're likely afraid of changing anything on their two most reputable headphones.
HD600 being 20 years old, they might get their shit together and release an upgraded version, hopefully with a new model number, like, say, HD680.
Even more neutral and/or less distortion would be nice.

>>61328658
hehe, HD650 is better.
I like the basssss!!

>>61328759
>bass
Would make sense to go HD650, if you really like bass and really hate treble.

>>61327677
anime fucking website.

>>61328786
listen to rock and roll more often, so~

>>61328581
On second thoughts, maybe I should have ignored the HD 598 deal and gone for a pair of Etymotic MK5, I was looking for a more neutral headphone or IEM.

>>61328581
It's a good headphone, just shit compared to the HD600.

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>>61328897
>>61328950
Fuck it, I'd rather spend the money on something that improves on my current DT 880s. Don't want to keep dumping money in to mid-fi

So on my PC I have speakers, nice headphones, and mediocre headphones with a mic for games. Is there a piece of hardware I can get to easily switch between the three?

>>61328032

For HD600's? No. You should probably be looking at something like an uber schiit stack if you actually want those headphones to be worth it.

>>61328248
ATH-M40x's and better pads.

>>61329003
Yes, if you already have DT880, next you should go HD600 tier, not sametier.
DT880 would compete with HD5xx, definitely not 600

>>61329076
Fulla 2 is more than enough for the HD600, the FX should be too.

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FeelsGoodMan

>>61329307
Hey Moishe, come check out this goy. I love him!

>>61329307
>meme micca with meme dsd

>>61329307
Good headphone choice.

>>61328564
please respond

I like bass

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Are the HD 598 a worthy upgrade to HD 380? They're pretty cheap on Amazon right now.

>>61329411
TH-X00

>>61329426
The 598C is shit. 598 open is well, open. So not a direct upgrade but you'll get better sound yeah.

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can you bear the wait until christmas?

Budget: $100

Location: NZ

Source: mobile phone via Bluetooth (audio jack not working but Bluetooth does)

Type of headphone: Full sized

Open or closed: closed

Comfort level: comfy. Padded.

Sound signature: bassy

Past headphones: Bose On Ear, Sol Republic Tracks V8

>>61329426
>Are the HD 598 a worthy upgrade to HD 380?
They're the same tier. HD598 will easily sound better because it's open, but you should be looking at HD600 (ie: the tier above) for a real upgrade.

>>61329482
Beats

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>>61327658
how does the build quality between the different K7XX (and the actual K7XX model) differ?

I'm interested in getting a decent AKG headphone for once (i want to stay in mid-fi hell for a bit longer) because the ones I got on a whim, pic related, are on ears and I never knew how shitty those are until I wore full-sized headphones.

Tempted between K7XX, K702, and the K712. I've read comparisons online about the sound, but not much about their build quality which I am more concerned about. K7XX and K712 both have the same superior earpads so I'm guessing I can't just assume that K7XX has the worst build quality and that the K712 has the best. Heck, do they all have the same general quality?

>>61329769
K612 is better than all of those, but fairly difficult to drive.

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I scooped up some 1mores for the $79.99 flash deal on amazon, are they as good as people say?

>>61329818
but that's the lower end and with an attached cable?

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>>61329307
>hd 598 sale
Already have a hd558 and shp9500. Would it be worth it for the sale?

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>>61329476
I'm struggling with these sweatmagnets

>>61329893
>but that's the lower end
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044
>No correlation between headphone frequency response and retail price
K702 are bright. K712/K7XX are dark. K612 are balanced/neutral. I'd recommend a Magni 2 for them at the minimum, though.

I'm using an HD600 with my onboard audio, a Gigabyte Gaming 3 AB350, but when I increase the amp level on it the bass gets out of control. On the highest setting it's ridiculously prominent. Are my ears just sensitive to bass or is this just what amps do? Or is the amp in my mobo just shit?

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>>61329910
Nene a cute. A cute!

>>61329922
>is this just what amps do?
Not generally. HD600 don't respond strongly to output impedance variation.
>Or is the amp in my mobo just shit?
That's possible.

>>61329949
Any suggestions on how to mitigate that? Would an external DAC/Amp help?

>>61329910
HD6XX are very sweaty too, good luck.

>>61329769
Which ones are made in China and which ones are made in Austria?

>>61329966
Considering the pads are covered with the same material as 558/598 it shouldn't be a problem.

>>61329963
Yep. DAC X6 if you don't want to break the bank, Fulla2 if you want USB only, Schiit Stack if you got money to blow.

>>61329963
Maybe. HD600 really deserve a Magni 2 IMO. https://hifimediy.com/sabre-dac-uae23 into the Magni 2 with a 3.5mm stereo to RCA stereo cable would be a good, affordable setup.
http://alkasar.online.fr/mesures/HifiMeDIY%20SABRE%2024-96%20DAC%20v1.htm are measurements of the DAC, showing that Modi is essentially overpriced.

>>61329983
even the K712 is made in Slovakia now. Everything else is made in China.

I wonder if I should even bother with AKG nowadays. The K7XX are still tempting because the headband and earpads look superior to the K612. Though really, it's the detachable cable alone that would sell me to the K7XX even if it's slightly more expensive.

>>61329901
No. HD598 is almost the same (supposedly the same if you foammod) as your HD558.
I suggest you do not buy anything from this tier anymore. Get HD600 once you can afford to.

>>61330033
I'm just waiting on the 6xx

>>61330004
>sable usb stick measurements
Not flat. WTF? What a shit device.
A DAC needs to be flat at least 20Hz-20KHz.

>>61330001
I've never worn the 598 on a hot day, but I can tell you the 600s use a slightly different material.

>>61329910
I got say, I've always loved how the 9500 looks

>>61330054
You cannot hear a 0.25 dB difference. It's flat.

>>61330064
Get a real DAC, not this shit.
>0.25 dB
"flat"
>you cannot hear
baseless bullshit

>>61329963
http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_level.php?lvl=0.2
Since this is relevant to you and not >>61330094 tell us if you can reliably detect a 0.2 dB difference. I don't think you can.

http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/py105/Sound.html
>A change by 1 dB is about the smallest change a human being can detect.
I've also read .5 as the limit, but never anything lower than that.

>>61330144
>Current score: 8/16 (50%) — Confidence : 87.34%
That's enough. The beep gets annoying.
Random would give me 33%, so yes, 0.2dB matters. 0.25dB matters more.
Now kindly fuck off.

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>>61330187
Test equipment:
- Tired me
- HD600
- Modi2u+Magni2u stack

Idol Trash says good night.

>>61330187
>To pass a blind test, you will need to perform 10 trials at least, obtain a high score and reach a high confidence level: 95% is standard to rate statistical significance. It means that your score outperforms random guesses by 95%. There is still a probability that you just got lucky though, 5%. To reduce such probability to 1%, keep testing until you reached a confidence level of 99%.
You did not pass the test.

>>61330200
Goodnight senpai

>>61330187
>0.25dB matters more
Now that I look at the DAC response more it looks closer to 0.2 than 0.25. It's also only 0.2 dB at 20 Hz and 20 kHz, both of which are almost never represented in music as fundamental tones. The DAC is audibly flat.

>>61330243
I did better than random guessing (33%) with a decent (87%) confidence rating.
You can move goalposts as much as you want, but if I'm better than random guessing, I'm satisfied.
Test is a torture beep I don't want to continue until I get to 99% confidence. Fucking tinnitus.

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This pretty conclusively shows that a 0.25 dB change at 20 Hz or 20 kHz is not even close to audible. The DAC is audibly flat.

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>>61330187
>random after 16 tries must be 33%
Yeah, I'm sure that you getting only 50% right means you can hear it. That's not how statistics work. I literally just got higher confidence than you in 16 tries by pressing random buttons.

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Is the ATH-M30x a good pair of headphones? I don't really know anything about this stuff but they look pretty good and are in my price range. Is there a better alternative without a huge jump in price?

>>61330272
>basic fucking statistics
>moving the goalposts

>>61330289
Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=fmTCAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA218&lpg=PA218&dq=minimal+detectable+change+decibels&source=bl&ots=ZOTa_YEO4P&sig=jZXZtIMF18ID_p_Y_9rv1apbdhQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiy48CB4YLVAhVnxoMKHW9nA24Q6AEINTAC#v=onepage&q=minimal%20detectable%20change%20decibels&f=false

>>61330299
The way statistics works, I'd have to get the confidence pretty high with results above 33%, which would be what random guesses would eventually average to.
I can't put myself through this beep torture any more than I already have, however.

I need help, not so versed in audio equipment. I'm looking for an amp that would connect to my pc and can plug headphones and a mic into. I would like to have a gain dial for the headphones and monitoring for the mic. The closest ones I have found are Behringer MA400 or a Scarlett Solo.
Also there was this shitty StarTech external sound card I found that has mic/headphone mute buttons which is cool. No gain dials but it does have volume buttons. Not so sure it has monitoring either.

>>61330336
Yes, which means you didn't prove shit. Go to bed, weeaboo.

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What's a clear all-around upgrade from the Sennheiser momentum 1 over-ear? They were nice for acoustic stuff like Jazz and indie rock and soundtracks, but they're not really doin' it for me for more cluttered, electronic stuff and trash anime music.

I don't need a tier above, I just want something more versatile, while still being somewhat portable and convenient.

>>61330289
The trap there is that the damage to the signal is cumulative. It doesn't only happen in the DAC, but everywhere in the chain. All damage is bad, as it all does contribute to the whole. The DAC not being ruler flat is a pretty bad start.

>>61330144
It's important to note, for the purposes of this specific conversation, that this blind test is using 440 Hz tones. >>61330289 shows us that it will be much easier to detect X dB difference between tones at 440 Hz than between tones at 20 Hz or 20 kHz, the only frequencies which the DAC deviates in frequency response by ~0.2 dB.
I'd be significantly surprised if anyone can reliably pass the 0.2 dB test at 440 Hz. I'd bet my left nut that nobody could do so at 20 Hz or 20 kHz.

>>61330308
>beating random (= above 33%)
>with a 87% confidence
Terrible :^)

>>61330388
Magni 2 Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz, -0.1db
Still not going to be audible at 20 Hz or 20 kHz. It's not even going to be close.

>>61330303
CB-1

>>61330388
It's definitely not going to be audible through a Magni 2 using pure fucking 20 Hz and 20 kHz tones, and it's going to be 100x as inaudible when listening to actual music. I've seen a lot of autistic shit in /hpg/ but complaining about +/- 0.1 dB frequency response in a DAC, with the only deviations coming at 20 Hz and 20 kHz, I think, absolutely takes the cake. Completely ridiculous.

>>61330450
Not to mention that most likely you can't even hear the 20 kHz frequency and I have my doubts about 20 Hz because at that point it's basically vibration

>>61330535
I'm convinced the guy complaining is either trolling or trying way too hard to self-justify his own stupidly expensive DAC purchase. I think Brilliant Pebbles might create more of an audible change than that DAC.

>>61327658
I really want to ironically own a pair of these, but lowballing eBay auctions hasn't gotten me anywhere. Guess I gotta wait longer for the buyer's remorse to really set in.

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Idol trash from bed.
Pic related (no PLs) took 2 tries... not the best of days.
Good night anons.

>>61330724
If you do get a pair, try to send it Tyll or someone so we can laugh at how bad the FR is

>>61330961
>inb4 there better than the CB-1s

are either of these good?
https://www.amazon.com/Sades-SA902-Headphones-Revolution-Canceling/dp/B01A0VQOCQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=prime-day&psr=PDAY&ie=UTF8&qid=1499833726&sr=1-1&keywords=headset
https://www.amazon.com/Headset-SADES-OMG-Heaphones-Microphone-Isolating/dp/B01A73ZIL0/ref=sr_1_2?s=prime-day&psr=PDAY&ie=UTF8&qid=1499833726&sr=1-2&keywords=headset

>>61329910
Holy shit, where do you live? Also, got the HD 558s to compare yet?

Dumb weebs.

Which one has the better DAC chip, the Fulla 2 or the FX Audio DAC-X6?

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>>61331294
Canada. Taking leave is not allowed at my workplace atm, but I'll get to go at some point before summer ends

>>61331356
Impossible to say without objective measurements of both. They're almost certainly audibly identical, though.

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>>61327977
>HD600 > Fidelio X2

>>61331406
Where in Canada? No sweating here, but I fucking hate the summer here.
>Sweating in my bed without the blanket
>Can't open the windows without a fuck-ton of mosquitos swarming in at night
This is in BC. Holy shit, I'm fucking mad.

>>61331430
Not enough niggerbass for you?

>>61331500
>No bass Vs. nigger bass

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>>61331533
>30 Hz even with 1 kHz with diffuse field compensation
>no bass
"No." That is superb bass extension for an open dynamic.

>>61331545
>That graph again
JUST

>>61331545
>>61331809
Now post another graph. Pro tip: No one ever follows up on that.

Current have the SHP9500S hooked up to a DAC X6. Not sure if I still want to get the HD600.

>>61331259

https://www.amazon.com/Sades-SA902-Headphones-Revolution-Canceling/dp/B01A0VQOCQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=prime-day&psr=PDAY&ie=UTF8&qid=1499833726&sr=1-1&keywords=headset

This headset is god tier. Better than anything you''ll get under $100 USD

Any recommendations for good, water/sweat resistant sport earbuds? I hate earbuds, but I don't really have a choice.

>>61331259
>>61331920
Garbage.

>>61332018
>I hate earbuds, but I don't really have a choice
Have you looked into on ears like KCS75's?

>>61332072
I haven't found any designed for active use with water/sweat resistance. My understanding is heavy sweating can fuck up a pair of normal headphones pretty quick.

>>61332129
I would think the pads would degrade and wear quicker unless you're legit running a steady, heavy flow of sweat like a sink.

>>61332129
>>61332186
I owned KSC75 "kramer modded" (more holes in the plastic grill) and with plantronics donut pleather pads in place of the stock pads (big hole in the middle) and I noticed condensation beads building up on the diaphragm due to my perspiration. But it was quite exposed and hot as hell. IDK if that's worth considering.

Looking for something wireless, reasonably priced (nothing like 500 bucks pls) especially during prime day. I use an mdr-7506 right now but it's got a thick cord that gets in the way at work..

Is there any great wireless headphones ? I have the blackbeat pro 1 but they are not really comfortable after few hours.
I tested the QC35, looks great, comfy and all but expensive. If I must put that much money is there anything better and as comfortable?

I just realized how hard is to find a new pair of headphones to replace the 688b. Really can't beat that soundstage at $40.

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>>61327977
Lol no.

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I dont really visit /hpg/ that much (/mu/tant)
So the other day my father called me in the night to tell me that he decided to gift me something for my birthday which was like 12 days ago, I frequently never ask for gift in my birthday for personal reasons but he has called like 5 times already, I told him I wanted a record player but he told me that those were for faggots so I don't think he likes the idea.
So as a last resort I was thinking of asking him headphones.
I don't think he will buy something higher than 75 bucks.
I'm not looking for earbuds or shit like that.
I want shit that sound good.
Please don't meme me.

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>>61329476
I'm good my man

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>>61332675
pls respond

>>61332675
>>61332767
just get the Philips SHP9500S then also nice to see another joey fan

>>61332768
They look nice, thank you, now I just have to look them up in my country

>>61328748
Not gonna happen. Their next flagship is a higher end version of the HD800 using the same but further refined ring radiator.

>>61332986
HD820?

>>61333034
Closed-back version of the 800S

>>61332675
>I told him I wanted a record player but he told me that those were for faggots so I don't think he likes the idea.
Kek, sounds like he's got his priorities straight. Ask him for a weights set you fucking fag.

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>>61330379
Pls respond.

>>61330379
Meze 99 Classic maybe?

>>61332986
>ring radiator.

Why is Sennheiser so obsessed with that meme technology?

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Hope they get here fast.

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RIP SZ2000. the bass was awesome, but shit build quality, ergonomics, and unbalanced frequency response really let it down. Ive had that part break a couple of times now on each side and repaired it with superglue, but its a lost cause now.

can anyone recommend an open back headphone with good bass?

>>61333470
X2
K712
TH-X00

Right now amazon has audio technica stuff on sale for prime day. The m50x is out of my range but are the 40x or 30x worth getting?

>>61333374
Inherently lower distortion than normal dynamic drivers with domes.

Did you guys used to have a buyers guide in the OP?

>>61333681
only a beyers guide

Anyone know of a triple flange ear tip with a sleeve diameter of 5mm. I want to try something with my UE900s. All i can find is 4mm.

Hey guys. Ordered an HD6XX and about to pull the trigger on an amp (Magni2 Uber). Will the following chain work?

Turntable>Receiver>Headphone Amp (connected through headphone jack)>Headphones

>>61333861
No connect the headphone amp to the RCA outputs of the receiver

>>61333956
Since this is the Magni2 Uber, which has RCA outputs, could I connect those outputs to my receiver after as well?

>>61333984
if your turntable has its own phono pre and rca outputs then have those go into the magni2 then the rca outs from the magni 2 to the receiver so it can act as a preamp and it will cut off output to the receiver for your speakers when you plug headphones in to the magni2

>>61331406
Hifumi a cute. A cute!!

>>61331545
>golden ears target
melanin-enhanced.

>>61333995
Anime a shit! SHIT!

>>61333956
>>61333992
Thank you /hpg/

anyone else grab a pair of akg k240 mk2 on prime day yesterday? mine just arrived, pretty nice so far

>>61329699
Well played, anon san

I am looking for a 7.1 head set for my PC with mice.

No software emulation but physical loudspeakers in the head set.

Please no speedlink crap, they brake very fast and no razor they also brake fast as hell.

Location Germany.
Bugged 200€ can be even a little more.
Must be comfy after a long time on head.
USB connection prefer d.

got a pair Sennheiser HD 598SR for 60$ on amazon prime day. they should get here next week. Are they any good?

I needed a pair of headphones anyway. if they're just terrible i can return them.

>>61334196
>mudheisers

>>61334211
well fuck. i'm the transient guy. if i don't hear the physical pressure on my eardrums with the snares, i cringe

>>61334229
>taking the snapheiser troll seriously

>>61334293
i'm asking here because i'm completely clueless

>>61334304
The HD598sr are, like the HD598 and se (which are sound-wise identical), reputable headphones with a relatively neutral frequency response.
They're also comfortable AF and durable.
In other words, you did well.

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>>61334323
>relatively neutral

>>61334412
>dat unnecessarily narrow 10dB graph range
Yeah, follows harman target reasonably well.

>>61334412
>>61334429
http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=573&graphID%5B1%5D=2851&graphID%5B2%5D=&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=20&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph
Decent graph. HD600 included for reference, as that's the closest to harman they've got.

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>Budget
$30
>Location
AliExpress
>Source
Phone, PC
>Type
Headphone with detachable cable. Don't give a shit about Bluetooth or over ear or on ear.
>Preferred Sound
Good

Currently these Bluedio T2S are the best sellers on AliExpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Bluedio-T2S-Shooting-Brake-bluetooth-version-4-1-built-in-Mic-fashionable-folding-for-handsfree-phone/1405349_32304732921.html

YouTube says they're bretty good for the money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ko3U4WCsEU

Is there any better. Again I don't care about bluetooth. Just want something nice to listen to that I won't have to replace every 2 months. So detachable cable is a must for me.

Previous suggestions gives was ZS5 but i'm not looking for earphones. Oneodio Yenona Studio Pros BUT $15 shipping charge so can't these and Superlux HD668B BUT that hanging male port looks dangerous. IMO destroys the whole idea of detachable cable. So don't mention these.

Thanks!

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>>61334663
>Preferred Sound
>Good

>>61329172
>DT880 would compete with HD5xx, definitely not 600

DT 880 vs HD 600 vs K701 for mid-fi
HD5xx is entry level

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>>61334950
suggest me some cheap headphone mofo

>>61334950
Reads as Neutral.

>>61334986
DT880 vs K701 vs HD558, actually.
>HD600
>mid-fi
...

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>Budget
$100
>Location
Europe
>Source
Phone, PC
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter
>Sound signature
Punchy bass preferred, otherwise neutral
>Past headphones
Superlux HD668B

I need a closed pair of headphones with a very, very good isolation. Had enough of the fucking neighbors, the loud fans, the stupid fireworks and that shithead of my dog barking all the time.
I was looking at pic related. Are they good?

>>61335607
Look into HD380 Pro.

>>61335514
Don't deny it, HD 600 is in the middle of Sennheiser's audiophile product stack.

>>61335723
Those cost too much here (€145). I can't spend more than € 90-100 because I'll have to buy a sound card afterwards (I fried the onboard audio).

>>61335945
It's their best sounding headphone (out of the box, no EQ). They have more expensive models, but they're not actually better-sounding, at least not out of the box.
>audiophiles
They're ready to spend $$$. I can't blame sennheiser or anybody else really, for taking money from them.
Particularly when Sennheiser does also have very competitive offerings at reasonable prices. HD600 included.

I just got an Audioquest Dragonfly black 1.5 and it sounds bretty gud.

>>61335981
>NO BASS

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>>61335999
>Literally no bass!!!!1oneoneeleven

>Budget
€100-120
>Location
(sh)Italy
>Source
6.35mm jack keyboard and USB for my desktop, so i'll have to get an adapter too
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed, sound isolation is the top priority along with comfort
>Comfort level
Must be good for high temperature and humidity, cushions that don't get sweaty spaghetti sticky in the summer

>>61336062
>isolation
>comfort
HD380 Pro

>>61330379
Momentum 2.0?

>>61334153
Anyone else think it's worth getting these?

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Don't fall for this meme like I did. They are total shit.

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>>61336152
>total shit

>>61333583
>TH-X00
>open back
?????

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>>61336152
>Chinkshill

>13178 purchased
>HD6XX

they even had the HD700 on a drop as well

When is an official recolor of the HD600 going to happen? I don't want to mod my own.

>>61336346
>yfw Sennheiser agreed to do the 6xx drop so they could clear out stock of 600/650 parts and get ready to launch successors of the 600/650

>>61336442
>HD600 successor has huge beyer treble spike and even less bass
>HD600 discontinued

>>61336442
>>61336488
all they have to do is improve the build quality material / color and keep everything else the same, please sennheiser

or just a recolor of the HD600, loads of people will buy it again because of how hideous a kitchentop headphone looks.

>>61336567
>keep everything the same
>20 years later
>still ZERO (0) bass

>>61331545
>beyershills be all "waaaaaah he keeps posting the well-sealed HD600 measurement actually representative of the headphone so our nobass comments look stupid waaaaaaaah"

>>61336099
Disgustingly overpriced, especially in Canada, will look for sale.
>>61333306
Doesn't seem especially portable, given its double headband design, but I've heard good things about its sound.

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>>61331849
>Now post another graph.
OK. Oh, look, they still have bass. Oh, look, 30 Hz is still even with 1 kHz.

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>>61336987
Wow, would you look at this. They still have bass and 30 Hz is still even with 1 kHz.

>>61332516
it's funny how the japs prefer the hd650 over stax

stax are only loved by american and chinese weebs, they aren't relevant

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>>61337004
They STILL have bass and 30 Hz is STILL even with 1 kHz. It's almost as if this is becoming a pattern suggesting that this is representative of the headphone or something.

>>61336319
They're not fully closed and he wants more bass which they have.

>all these cherry picked graphs from ghetto couplers instead of reputable HATS like the one from inner fidelity
The shillery truly knows no bounds.

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>>61337021
At this point it's safe to assume the following:
- HD600 have excellent bass extension and 30 Hz is generally going to be even with 1 kHz after measurement compensation;
- Measurements which show more severe bass rolloff than these are almost certainly poorly-sealed measurements;
- Beyershills are eternally BTFO

>>61337054
Not him but InnerFidelity measurements aren't reliable.

I just got the Fidelio X2 for pretty cheap and have noticed a slight clip when played at max volume on my computer, despite the overall sound being relatively low: for instance, around the 23:35 mark on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVW7JYhb4dg&list=PL3UZpQL9LIxMihBRi-CqYFrQR3wp08Bjq

What can be causing these clipping noises? I'm using the sound card integrated on the mobo; I'd consider an audio card, but the GPU clogs all PCIe ports save for the one I use for the wifi card.
Also, I'm pretty fucking new and I'm unsure as to whether I should pair these with an amp, any advice?

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>>61337054
Riiiiiight.

>>61336152
Get new tips with them. The stocks are hard as fuck compared to other KZ's.

>>61337102
>goldenears
>only cherrypicked graph which actually means anything
>still contradicted by any other reputable site
lol k

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>Budget
~150 USD
>Location
United States
>Source
iPhone, PC, etc.
>Type of headphone
IEM preferred
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Shouldn't be painful after hours of wear
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
ATH-M50, HD558

Basically looking for the cheapest thing I can find to upgrade from these, if I can do that while spending less than 150 if possible I'd like to do so.

>>61336567
>or just a recolor of the HD600, loads of people will buy it again because of how hideous a kitchentop headphone looks.
Am I alone liking HD600 appearance?
The HD650 looks super ugly plain grey. The texture of the HD600 is fantastic.

>>61337246
MK5
GR07 Bass Edition

>>61337090
>waaaah they paint an honest picture of my headphones so they're unreliable
Kek

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The headband Jabra Revos cracked and I am in need of a new pair of bluetooth headphones.

I was looking at the AKG845s because a friend of mine has them and I thought they were comfy and sounded good, but do you guys have any recommendations?

Opinions on the durability of the Brainwavz HM5?
They seem pretty good except for the fork

>>61337246
>past: HD558
>want: neutral
>has to be: upgrade
HD600 is where it's at. The HD598 and the newer 579/599 aren't going to be an improvement over what you already have.
>$150
You'll need to save up some more cash than that, unfortunately. Or go 2nd hand.

>>61337238
>still contradicted by poorly sealed measurements
FTFY. You can shill all you like but logical readers will determine I am correct.

>>61337262
Nope, I like it too. What I don't like is the plasticky construction which doesn't really feel like a premium headphone. I'd easily pay a thousand or more for a HD600 with the build quality of a focal elear.

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>>61337277
>MK5

I'm about to cave in honestly, anything with a mic you could recommend? If not I'll probably just go with that.
>>61337322
What about the HD650? Massdrop is selling them for 200 dollars.

>>61337092
Anyone?

Where have all the 'veiled, warm but total absence of bass' HD 600 shills come from?

>>61337349
I don't care about that "feeling" all that much, but I do like the fact it's modular. Should the headband snap (hopefully won't), I can replace it.

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>>61331545
>>61336987
>>61337004
>>61337021
>>61337085
>"no bass" they said

>>61337300
http://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2013/05/euris-accuracy-compared-to-other.html

InnerFidelity isn't an accurate source for measurements. They use the ID target curve, which is absolute garbage, the measurements aren't consistent with other websites and the distortion measurements aren't accurate as they've got random spikes.

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this belongs in the stupid question thread i imagine

so im new to pc gaming and i dont yet have a headset, i just have some shitty speakers and some earphones cause i had those anyway

if i buy a decent headset, do i plug it directly into the pc? or does it go into the speakers?

is there a difference?

>>61337398
>literally no bass!!!

>>61337403
>innerfidelity isn't trustworthy
>links to some random chink
you serious dude? Just lol

I jumped into the HD6XX too. I have this massive urge to get the K7XX now just for collection's sake.

too bad I fucking missed out on the $100 AKG K702s (among other things) with amazon glitching out. fffuuuuck.

Anyone try those Sony triple comfort iem tips?

>>61337426
That random chink knows more than Tyll.

Tyll is just a marketer.

>Budget
$500 USD give or take

>location
US

>Source
Going to get a AT2035 XLR so if I can I'd like to get a "dual purpose" amp for both the headphones and mic. (or is that a bad idea?) Have USB3/TypeC available on my new build.

>Type
Full, Closed

>Comfort
Comfortable enough for several hours at a time.

Been lurking this thread for about a week and still drawing a blank.

How hygienic are the HD650s? I almost want to buy leatherette/leather headphones exclusively just so I can wipe it off. I want to prepare for the HD6XX since someone here said they are also sweat magnets.

>CDN$ 62.89 for replacement earpads
>CDN$ 3.72 for replacement headbands
eeeehhh.. Am I just not looking at the right place for genuine earpads? Amazon.ca

Can I even rinse velour pads safely/ideally if they have memory foam inside? Just wiping off the surface is not going to be ideal.

>>61337403
once again the rtings curve has been proved as superior

only sennheiser shills say otherwise

>>61337546
Beyerdynamic Custom STUDIO.
>>61337549
The only problem about velour for me is the dust.
>>61337565
rtings' curve is garbage as well. Only a handful of websites matter for measurements.

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>>61327658
Please help!

Is this Yamaha Headphones any good?
Model is hphm82 and they have a lot of colors to choose.

>>61337565
>only sennheiser shills say otherwise
Nonsensical, when considering that silly curve rates HD800S on top.

>>61337589
Looks uncomfortable AF.

>>61337517
Oh sure. You're a joke, just lol

>>61337582
>The only problem about velour for me is the dust.
isn't velour permeable? Dust and dead skin cells seeping through (with sweat) would the hygiene issue I am concerned about.

also why I can't imagine why anyone would buy used headphones from strangers, at least without completely replacing the pads

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>>61337589
I will use for gaming mainly at night connected to a Yamaha Receiver.

Other option is the Yamaha HPH-PRO 3000. They are both in-ear becasue I don't have money for the larger ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUb_S4e-Rd4

>>61337639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPM1q_Uyxc

>>61337600
Reviews say it's not unconfortable. But it has phone controls. Could that be a problem?

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>>61337600
>>61337686
Forgot the pic

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Is there even a single closed over-ear model below 140$ that doesn't have forks and joints as sturdy as a pair of toothpicks?

>>61337092
>>61337371
Alright, so it'd seem it's the back panel jack outlet that's not working correctly; I plugged it on the front and it's working wonders.

What the fuck is going on? Shouldn't the back panel be, in fact, a bit better sounding, it coming straight out of the mobo? My case isn't even a good one.

>>61337705
Wow they look fucking retarded
Who thought a fucking square was a good idea

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>>61337092
Get a USB audio card.

>>61337847
>gaymur garbage
No. USB audio interfaces are better.

>>61337412
You need to tell what are the speakers doing in that connection. Some speakers offer only a passtrough, making no difference (some work even with the speakers turned off) other apply amplification to the output (shitty ones mostly).

You can connect to the computer. People usually play games in laptops like that. But a high end phone would need an amplifier.

>>61337767
the sony MDR7506 seem pretty sturdy (and basic, which may or may not be your thing) especially considering they're foldable headphones at this price range. Earpads are awful though and feel like on-ear ones. Needs to be replaced with larger ones from the start.

noise isolation is meh. It's pretty compact.

>>61337864
better than his current setup

I've been using a pair of audio technica ad700x for years but the cable on them broke yesterday and the right speaker no longer works

I'm gonna try to find someone to fix them but I wanna get some new headphones in the meantime

Recommend me some good headphones with open design and neutral sound that are comfortable for extended periods of time

I listen to, play and record virtuoso guitar oriented music

I'm in eastern yurop and I don't wanna spend over 200 yuros

>>61337847
>Creative.
DIAF

>>61337705
I want to sniff her hair

>>61337921
If you don't have a DAC/amp combo already, AKG K612 and DAC X6

>>61337847
>>61337864
What kind of DAC is recommended for headphones of this price range/this one in particular? I use this PC for mixing and mastering shitty trailer music aside from normal usage.

Also, what could be causing the back panel to work like shit? I had the MDR V6 and 7506 plugged in for a while, and I had those pry loose my old laptop jack input after plugging them in and out for a while, but this is a desktop and didn't really put that much strain on the plug.

>>61337968
>What DAC
You want a USB DAC+AMP.
>I use this PC for mixing and mastering
Get something decent. Schiit Fulla 2 or FX-AUDIO DAC-X6 at the minimum. They're excellent value per price. Surely you can afford this much, considering your professional use.

>>61337959
>DAC X6
>Output power:90mw /600Ω、180mw/300Ω、450mw/100Ω、610mw /62Ω、910mw/32Ω、1000mw/16Ω
That's a lot of output power for the price. I wonder what the Chi-Fi catch is.

>>61338150
I don't see a gain switch. The volume knob is going to be stupidly sensitive with low impedance/high sensitivity headphones.

>>61337847
Do what this anon says.

Either get the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi or the Asus Xonar U7 MKII. Both are very very good.

>>61337959
What about AKG K 701, how do they compare?

I use a focusrite audio interface

>>61338150
Its TPA6120 usually means 10 ohm output impedance, which is far from ideal.

>>61338178
K612 are more accurate/balanced than K701, which are bright. K612 outclass both the K701 family and the K712 family, as the K712 have too much bass. The drawback with the K612 is they're difficult to drive.

>>61338170
>>61338001
So, should I get a DAC, or a DAC+amp? Isn't an amp more important if I have none?

>>61338169
Gain switch is inside the unit weirdly enough via jumpers.
>>61338193
I've been hearing this tossed around a bit here, why is it far from ideal?

>>61338222
Thanks for the info

I see this k612 "pro" version on sale, is it the same as the regular version?

>>61338268
https://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html
https://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-impedance-explained.html

>>61338222
the K612 has cheaper materials (earpad and headband most notably) though and has an attached cable

>>61338170 >>61338264
>Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi or the Asus Xonar U7 MKII.
Gamer garbage, avoid.
>Isn't an amp more important if I have none?
Sure, but what you need the most is a trusted source that you know doesn't suck. That's why DAC+AMP, the full package. It makes your computer's internal audio irrelevant.
The suggested dac+amps (fulla2, dac-x6) are very good options, particularly the fulla2 due to its lower output impedance.

>>61338403
Stop spouting bullshit.

He can a usb soundcard that delivers sound on par with whatever retarded DAC+AMP combo you can come up with for a lot cheaper.

Fucking audiophile niggers and their placebos.

>>61338268
>I've been hearing this tossed around a bit here, why is it far from ideal?
Say you've got some 50Ω headphones, which is a pretty common value. That's 5:1 ratio between headphones and output. You want 10.
The main issue is that headphones seldom have a completely flat frequency response vs impedance plot. What happens is that, when the ratio is low, frequency response is impacted.

>Budget
200ish USD

>Location
murika

>Source
PC/amp

>Type of headphone
full

>Open or closed
Closed i guess, ill be using them at office

>Comfort level
VERY COMFY

>Sound signature
Neutral

love you guys pls respond

I'm looking for some new headphones because the cheap ones I buy from local stores keep breaking. I'm not an audiophile or anything like that so I don't care about how good the sound quality is, so long as it doesn't have that tin sound and don't break after two months.

>Budget
Doesn't matter, but I would prefer for them to be cheap. As I said I'm not an audiophile nor do I listen to music or play multiplayer games that much, so I won't need overly expensive headphones.

>Location
England.

>Source
Laptop, desktop and mobile

>Type of headphone
IEM would be best but I don't mind so long as I can wear them in bed and etc.

>Open or closed
Closed. I absolutely cannot let sound escape.

>Comfort level
Don't care so long as I can use them in bed and lying down.

>Sound signature
Don't mind.

>Past headphones
Nothing worth noting, usually just £5 rubbish from ASDA.

>>61338445
>He can a usb soundcard that delivers sound on par with whatever retarded DAC+AMP combo
DAC+AMP combos are usb soundcards.
>a lot cheaper
You imbecile, look up actual prices. These are priced similarly to the inferior gamer shit you suggested.

>>61338403
I cannot really get either of those for a reasonable price in Spainistan.

>>61338445
I'm finding mixed reviews for those and I mostly want to set up this for music related purposes.

>>61338511
>Spainistan
http://schiit.com/faq/international
Use whatever of the 2 EU shops is cheaper for you.
Also, look into youtube for reviews of both recommended dac+amp devices, before you Buy with confidence.

>>61338475
GR07 Bass Edition

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>>61338511
Bro, just get one of these. It's made for people who make music and such.

>>61338573
I have a pretty decent mixer already for which I paid some €400 back in the day, I really only need the output interface for my PC. I'd rather not pay for stuff I'm not really going to need.

>>61338540
It'd cost me €150 including shipping, which is about a 72% prime. I'm not really sure that's good bang for my buck. Isn't there another option more widely available?

I do suppose I'm in for some reviews and cross-checking before going for it, indeed.

>>61337302
I'm retarded and didn't use the template

Budget: $300

Location: Canada, AB

Source: cell phone, laptop occasionally (Windows 10)

Type of headphone: Full sized

Open or closed: Closed

Comfort level: Preferably more comfy, but if they sound good I'll put up with a little discomfort

Sound signature: Bassy or neutral

Past headphones: Jabra Revo, ATH-M50

>>61338755
Status CB-1

>>61338755
Sennheiser HD380 Pro

>>61338550
None available.

>>61338489
>gamer shit
It's fucking software and nobody forces your retarded ass to use it. The actual hardware built into those thing is top notch.

I bet you use Apple products as well because your mum dropped you on your head as a child.

>>61338820
The US seller's official site's here
http://www.lendmeurears.com/vsonic/
They're from Singapore

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>Budget: $150

>Location: U.S.A

>Source: Galaxy S7 Edge

>Type of headphone: Over ear.

>Open or closed: Closed

>Comfort level: High

>Sound signature: V

>Past headphones: Beyerdynamic Dt 770 pro, HiFimen He-400i, m50x(Didn't like these), Vmoda Crossfade m100.


Need something that is very portable. I got the vmodas for this reason bot they do not collapse in a way that makes them flat and easy to put in my bag. Thx

>>61333374
>meme technology

What? Ring radiator is clearly and measurably better than normal dynamic driver.

>>61337968
>>61337809
Having fixed my initial problems, I must say the improvement from the MDR is huge. I'm on the verge of tears listening to some old classical recordings. So many little things I was missing.

Is there any reason I shouldn't get a pair of K701's for $189AUD/$145USD to pair with an O2+ODAC?
HD600 and DT880 are both >$300AUD

>>61338793
>>61338817

Any Bluetooth recommendations? I have a Moto Z so I don't have built in 3.5mm and the USB-C adapter that came with the phone will not work with my M50s otherwise I would just use those.

>>61339765
>Is there any reason
HD600 are far superior. Even K612 are superior.

>>61339822
Mio doesn't wear HD600s so they are inferior by default.

I bought a pair of HD650s as my first open headphones
Did I do ok?

>>61339996
Most boring Keion.

>>61340002
Should have gotten HD600, but still did decently.

>>61340020
None of the Keions wear HD600s. The worth of a headphone is judged by the anime girls that wear them.

>>61340037
What about the 600s are better?

Just got my new headphones.
They sound exactly the same as the old ones desu

>I am never going to find a pair of headphones as comfy as my HD598s
These Beyerdynamics are fucking clamping down on my head like a VISE

>>61340046
The treble response is more accurate.

>>61340143
Which Beyers?

>>61340292
990 Pro since I was able to get them on sale.
The earpads are a nice material but really not as comfortable in design, and the headband's clamp is absolutely trying to murder me.

>>61338468
DT250 80 ohm.

>>61340321
Bend the headband. Unlike certain other headphones, the entire headband is steel and can be bent easily to reduce clamp.

>>61340377 new thread

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>>61339765
Don't get the K701, bass is too anemic. Spend more and get the Q701. You'd want the Q701 because it's Austrian made and has a slightly better bass response.

Compared to the HD600 the Q701 has a larger soundstage and more aggressive sound.

>>61340427 actual new thread since I fucked up the first one and didn't put hpg in the subject

>>61339765
>>61340421
Don't get K701 or Q701 because of the shitty retard headband bumps. Get K702 if you must have a member of this family, but again, K612 is superior sounding.

>>61339765
You've spent how much in your O2 setup?
Most money should go to transducers, as they make the most difference.
HD600 is a sane choice and, even then, your O2 will be accounting for too much of the total cost, while contributing so little to the sound.

>>61340046
They're more accurate.
HD650 are a colored version which adds bass and removes treble. The frequency response does swing around more than the HD600, but it is still pretty good.

>>61340421
Since you seem familiar with AKG, could you somewhat expose their model naming scheme and their most interesting headphone models?

>>61339807
The CB-1 has a detachable 3.5mm so you could plug in a Bluetooth reciever when on the go and use the cord at home for your PC.

>>61340046
the hd 600 shillers don't have them is the problem.

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Poorfag here. Friend gave me his shitty m50x's for free.

Where do I buy replacement parts?

Both hinges are shot (Friend put metal inside to keep them rigid), the earcups and headband are also in real bad shape. The right side also has a very faint rattle whenever really deep bass is played.

>>61340421
>because it's Austrian made
>2017
I don't think AKG makes anything in Austria anymore, even the K712.