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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

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If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
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3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
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$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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Richard Stallman is a Communist
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Richard Stallman is a cute
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My distribution is better than yours.
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>>61306652
Not better than Gentoo
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[Unit]
Description=Hentai At Home Service
After=network.target

[Service]
User=deploy
Group=deploy
ExecStart=/usr/bin/tmux new-session -d -c /home/deploy/H@H -n HentaiAtHome -s HentaiAtHome /home/deploy/H@H/start.sh
ExecStop=/usr/bin/tmux send-keys -t HentaiAtHome '^c'

[Install]
WantedBy=default.target


why does this kill itself immediately after starting?
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This is the official "What are some cool commands" subreddit.
You don't need to be a cool command,
it's just for fun.
If you see another cool commands subreddit,
redirect them here.
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if arch is meant to be simple, why does it have the systemd?
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>>61306785
Because archfags are too busy fixing their shitty system to replace systemd
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>>61306785
what's wrong with systemd?
I don't _really_ care what my init system is as long as I can modify it easily and it's fast
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>>61306785
Because it makes things simpler.
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>>61306808
>Archfags can't maintain initscripts
FTFY
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I have a script with no execute privileges, only -rw. If I copy it over a script with -rwx, it now has -rwx. Why aren't the original privileges saved? Isn't this a security vulnerability, where someone could copy over a known program/script with a malicious one?
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>>61306833
Whether they did or didn't do a good job of maintaining init scripts, systemd dramatically decreases the amount of work the maintainers have to do. This is a big reason why so many major distros adopted it, and why the attitude towards systemd haters has been "Okay, if you want something else, you get to do all the shitty drudge work of maintaining init scripts, have fun"
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>>61306808
If ntp or whatever held things up, you just had to put a & on the end of that line.
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>>61306785
Arch is a small distro, it doesn't have many developers and adopting systemd makes life much easier for developers. The same reason why it only officially supports x86-64.
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Are there any music players that hav good visualizers I can play in full screen other than ncmpcpp?
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>tfw 2 retarded to install lime text
>tfw 2 retarded to install graphics card drivers
ree
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>>61306943
install gentoo
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>>61306886
>>61306927
>asking for help in the linux shitposting thread
you're in the wrong place guys
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>>61306956
>gentoo
The logo looks like 9gags so I wont do that
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>>61306963
>"dur 4chan is for shitposting only"
Shut the fuck up, retard.
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>>61306986
>still not giving help
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>>61306986
referring to this thread in particular
all you fucks ever do is shitpost
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>>61306963
GNU/Linux*
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>>61307102
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>>61306963
I like to throw in a good shitpost early to see if I can get OP to delete the thread and start over.
I thought that was the game.
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>>61306963
Hey faggot, if you don't like this thread, feel free to fuck off.
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guess thats the winfag from the last thread being hurt
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@61306731
>What are some cool commands
https://seashells.io/
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>>61307301
https://seashells.io/v/pnfJJSSq
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How do I do the cool status with Ascii picture thing in the terminal
I want to be cool like you guys
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>>61307392
screenfetch
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>>61307392
see >>61307136
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>>61307392
>first day on Arch Linux
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>>61307411
b-but I like you onii-chan

>>61307410
Thanks

>>61307426
Dumb crabposter
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>>61307410
>>61307392
dont listen to this guy, neofetch is much cooler
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>>61307465
>neofetch
That thing coded by codemonkeys?
They weren't capable of parsing command line. No neofetch is not serious.
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>>61307452
hey, don't hate on crabs
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>>61306715

Read logs.
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I want to start to learn a bit programming and my main focus is currently some cute cli/tui programs or some ascii games and I'm not sure where to start. Would you suggest C? Python? Should I use curses? Any hints welcome.
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>>61307558
OCaml, it's the easiest language.
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>>61307558
Depends on why you want to learn to program.
Python if you just want the fastest time from zero to being able to write a program that does something useful/nontrivial/worthwhile
C if you're doing it because you want to peek under the hood at what's actually going on under the hood
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>>61307558
If you want to have your program ready in a week, learn Python. If you actually want to learn programming, learn C. I'd go with python and when you start to love programming, go C.
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>>61307558
ask >>>/g/dpt/
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>>61307481
https://github.com/dylanaraps/neofetch/wiki/Neofetch-vs-Screenfetch
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>tfw perl is dying
Why is everyone scripting with ruby, python, node, when perl is so nice! Once you know perl, you can do everything with it, it does your sed, awk, grep, curl, little cute cli/tui programs! Use perl!
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>>61307588
>because you want to peek under the hood at what's actually going on under the hood
I really fucked up typing that sentence, but you get the point
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>>61307651
bla bla bla
No concrete evidence, just I don't luike the way screenfetch is implemented

And they implement a joke named neofetch that can't parse command line. Fucking code monkeys. screenfetch is mature
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>>61307651
>t. neofetch developer
thanks for this unbiased comparsion

>>61307661
>you can do everything with it, it does your sed, awk, grep, curl, little cute cli/tui programs!
so can you with ruby, python, node.js
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>>61307651
The only reason people use neofetch is the ebin w3mimg hack. Implemented in screenfetch, nobody would use neofetch anymore since config and temp files for a simple script pretty much sucks.

Also neofetch doesn't support lo/g/os.
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>not writing your own system info script
n00bz
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>GNU/Linux has no games
https://ttygames.wordpress.com/
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>>61307943
>atc
I played a lot that game. It's fun when working.
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>>61307943
confirmed cool:
>gnugo
>moon-buggy
>asciijump
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>>61307943
This looks interesting. Thanks.

Reminder that there's also https://inconsolation.wordpress.com/
Best source for TUi fun.
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>>61307999
For the newfriends.
wget http://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/games/arcade/ztrack-1.0.tar.gz
tar xf ztrack-1.0.tar.gz
cd ztrack/
make
./ztrack
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>>61308126
>gcc
D-did I just compile my first program?
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>>61308176
Yes, you're a hacker now.
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>>61308197
ph34r my $k!llz

memes aside, that was easy
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>>61308176
You've never compiled before?

Wanna try something else?

http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/files/sct.c
and run
cc -std=c99 -O2 -I /usr/X11R6/include -o sct sct.c -L /usr/X11R6/lib -lm -lX11 -lXrandr


It will produce a binary called sct. It asks for values from 1 000 to 10 000.
The effect is the same as running software like f.lux (windows) or redshift (multiplatform).
To restore just use sct without arguments.
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Will I fuck my system if I remove in Arch the gnome and gnome-extra package groups?

I want gdm and xfce4 to continue working after that.
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>>61308176
Yes. But it's not always that easy. Nowadays most developers fon't even ship a INSTALL or README file, or explain which dependencies you need. Hunting them down can be a pain in the ass.
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Debian are awesome. Debian are awesome. Debian are awesome.
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>>61308260
What did he mean by this?
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>>61308228
>sct
my nigga

Using it myself and it's urging me to learn programming in order to add a smooth transition function.
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>>61308260
Why does the Debian logo look like a toilet used by a girl on period?
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>>61308316
>learn programming in order to add a smooth transition function.
I just use a combination of shell scripts and cron to achieve it really
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>>61308289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QBRgyitFs
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>>61308359
Good idea, care to share your crontab related?
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>>61308359
>shell scripts
bloat
pretty sure it could be done in 5 lines of C
pretty sure someone already did this, check shithub
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>>61308416
>>61308397
>>61308359
>>61308316
>not just using redshift
what is wrong with you
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>>61308433
d0 y0v 3v3n l!k3 <0mpvt3rs
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>>61308433
>80MB of ram just to have your screen dimmed
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>>61308433
>geoglue botnet depedency
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>>61308488
>botnet
please, you're trying too hard
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>>61308488
So? Free software so just re-build it with geoclue support disabled.
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>>61308488
On Debian it's an optional dependency.
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>>61308488
It doesn't even use geoglue when you set long and lat you fucking faggot.
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>>61308397
There's absolutely nothing to it. I use a combination of three shell scripts in total.

One for dusk, one for dawn (I've yet to figure out a more efficient way to do this so any protips would be helfpul) that run every minute of 21:xx and every minute of 04:xx to dim and brighten the screen respectively.

Plus a 3rd "switch" script that when run creates or removes an empty file /tmp/sct-switch (which disables or reenables the crontab entry) and sets the color temperature on 6500K (default) or dimmed according to the hour.

The 3rd switch runs on X startup too, in case I login in the middle of the night and I want the screen dimmed

crontab entry goes like
* 21 * * * [ ! -f /tmp/sct-switch ] && /home/user/bin/sct-dusk.sh


So the command in crontab entry will only be executed IF the /tmp/sct-switch file doesn't exist.

I'm not very experienced, you could probably come up with most sophisticated but I treat it as part of learning experience and tried to keep is as retard-proof as possible.
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Which distro should I install on my x200?
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>>61308746
Devuan
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>>61308746
The one you prefer.
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>>61308746
The one I'm using.
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>>61307452
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>>61308746
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
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Yo wussup, my name is Devuan
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>>61308746
The best ofc.
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on windows, I can connect to one wifi network and create a separate ad-hoc network and share the internet connection. how do I do that on Debian stretch gnu/linux
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If i want to tunnel my browser through ssh do i just need to tunnel the 80 port and then tell my browser to connect to localhost:80 on SOCKS or do i need t install additional sw on the linux server?
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>>61308746
GNU/Linux
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>>61308746
GNU/GNU Linux-libre
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>>61308746
systemd/systemd systemd-libre
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>>61308746
arch linus
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>>61308858
xD!
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does mpv need youtube-dl to stream?
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>>61309124
yes and no
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>>61309139
>yes and no
explain
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>>61309151
If you have the direct url, mpv can stream it. If you give mpv just a website url, you need youtube-dl which will parse the website and find the direct stream url for mpv.
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>>61309151
kek he mean it need yt-dl but streaming is archived with another module (?)
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why does fsck say 0.1% non-contigous? how can i make it 0.0%?
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is there an addon for linux that can show me amazon results in case grep returns no results?
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>>61309210
underrated
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>>61309210
If this is the future. Please kill me.
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>>61309210
>>61309231
samefag
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>>61309210
shoudlnt be too hard to mkae script for that
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>>61309210
>>61309231
>>61309244
samefag
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>>61309259
samefag
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>>61309278

This is why nobody likes the Linux community.
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>>61309210
>linux addon
>amazon
>>61309293
>>61309278
samefag
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>>61309311
>samefagging this hard
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>>61309293
I'm using a phone not linux
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how to expose samefags? pls no bully, I'm new
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>>61309335
>linux is the desktop version of android
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I have 100GB sparse file which contans 10mb of data, how do i save it on windows without being 100GB?
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Brainlet here, been reading about archivebombs, someone help me with maths.
When I run this:
dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=10240 | gzip > out.gz

I get an 10M file containing 10G. How to create a file containing 1 terrabyte and how large would be the gz?

Also, is there a way to check for archive bombs on my server?
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my x201 turns itself off suddenly after a while if i put it on balanced or performance from bios. is there something i can do? or should i upgrade to t420?
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>>61309425
anyone? please?
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What is the best chinkpad which supports free drivers so I can run libre distros?
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>>61309504
>libre distros
to save time and get ultimate freedom just get a new one from minifree or whatever, these are already librebooted and have working hardware, wifi, etc
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>>61306802
>modify it easily
You cant
>its fast
It isnt
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rip hardened gentoo
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>>61309338
lean to modify web page, faggot
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>>61309338
Usually there's 1 minute cool down time between posts, so when you see someone posting
>lol, did you hear?
and 1 minute later
>yeah that's amazing!
you can be 90% sure it's the same fag

Now, there are pass-posters, which makes finding trolls less easy.
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>>61309579
wut?
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>>61309575

It's free software, you can modify it.
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>>61306886
Wouldn't you need the same permissions in order to replace the file in first place?
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>>61309632
ebin meme

if I remember right, free software means software which respects the freedom of the users and the community

now, try to run a distro like ubuntu, fedora, debian, arch, etc without systemd without getting wizard skillz, also good luck making programs depending on systemd not depending on them, so basically, some years later, good luck rewriting the whole os
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>>61309676

>if I remember right, free software means software which respects the freedom of the users and the community
No, you don't remember right.
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>>61309676
Your fault for being too lazy to use your freedom. Thanks to Devuan, people can opt out.
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>>61309696
hownew.ru
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>>61309712

Not as stupid as you.
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>>61309740
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How do i open encrypted files created with cryptsetup luks on windows?
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Stop dual booting. Go in dry.
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>>61309624
there's no point in using hardened gentoo now that all grsecurity patches are closed off to non-subscribers
you pretty much getthe same level of security on a stock debian install
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>>61306927
qmmp or whatever it is called can have a milkdrop plugin.
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>>61309887
This.

Been ballsdeep into Debian for 3 months and I can fix problems myself and even learned some shell scripting, while when I used a VM, I pussies out at the first problem. VM/Dualboot is a stepping stone.
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>>61309903
according to linux grsec patches were garbage anyway
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>>61309981
if you read the entire thread on the mailing list, you'd see that he considers it garbage because they refused to split the thing up and made no real effort towards getting things merged into upstream, not because the actual functionality was bad
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>>61310021
Why don't kernel developers make Linux secure out of the box? Why do people need to use third party patches?
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>>61310050
w-wait, are you saying that linux isn't secure?
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>>61310066
not really

I mean it's probably more secure than Windows but that's like saying a VW Golf is more of a car than a block of granite, the set standard is fairly low.
Majority of the burden of securing the system relies on the system administrator.
That's why such a huge shistorm arose around grsecurity because it was pretty much the only way and now it's gone so redmeme, google and their associated are in damage control mode trying to put scraps of it together.
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>>61310050
the kernel self-protection project is trying to get parts of grsecurity into the upstream kernel I think
as far as I'm aware simply nobody worked on security / kernel hardening as much as the grsec guys
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>>61308903
Do you want to do this with the same WiFi device?
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>>61310050
Because Linux uses prefer features.
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>>61310050
it just werks
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>used to sound feedback when i connect usb devices
>thinking about learning how to write simple udev rules to play sounds upon device connection
>ponder if it's worth having something like that running in the background and utilizing system resources

This is suffering.
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>>61310050
to make it easy for the botnet
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imagine if microkernels took off and kernel vulnerabilities couldn't be used to root the system
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>>61310373
Slack have installer so /g/entoo is more hardcore
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Compared to other distributions, is Slackware still one of the more difficult ones to install and get working?
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>>61310197
wut.
Just add a udev rule that will trigger a script on usb hookup.
You don't have to watch 24/7 for an event to happen
>>
It's only tangentially related to GNU/Linux, but I've been wondering what userstyle addon's good to use nowadays for Firefox.
I've been using StyleRRR since Stylish got all botnet-y, but StyleRRR was always garbage.

From what I can see, there's one called Stylus that's supposed to work similar to Stylish. That my best bet?
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>>61310484
It's a pain in the bumhole to operate on a day-to-day basis because it's package """""manager"""" expects the user to hunt down dependencies manually.

Anything else considered it's pretty much gentoo in nature.
It has a TUI installer too iirc.
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>>61310553
greasemonkey
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>>61310583
Greasemonkey seems a bit overkill just for CSS, dunnit? I wasn't even considering that I could do it through that
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>>61310624
No,it isnt
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>>61310484
slackware is shit. Doesn't resolve depedencies
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>>61310137
i want to do it however windows does it I guess, not sure what it does
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>>61310799
bridge
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>>61310652
>it's shit because I'm retarded
(yOu)
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>>61310806
will installing bridge and then running the command make it so I can have two wireless networks simultaneously?
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>>61310812
LOL try again. I use arch
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>>61310861
okay now I know for sure that was bait, you made it too easy this time
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>>61310861
>arch
>not retarded
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>>61310847
If you have to WiFi devises, sure. Put wpa_supplicant on one and hostapd on the other. Bridge and dhcp as appropriate.
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I tried manually installing an OpenType font, I put it in /usr/share/fonts/My-Font/*, did the fontconfig reload thing AND restarted.
The fonts show up in the font list, but it only displays little rectangles. Any clue?
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>>61310899
enjoy your bloated 8gb slackware install while I use minimal arch
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>>61310995
/usr/share/fonts/OpenType/My-Font/, I mean.
I did it all according to guide, I swear, friends
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Flash drives formatted as exFAT on Arch can't be read on my Macbook. What gives?

I've tried exfat-utils and exfat-utils-nofuse/exfat-fkms-git and no luck. Is this a known problem or am I just stupid?
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>>61311035
macOS struggles with dos/windows operating system, their ntfs driver is shit too.
Does formatting a drive as exFAT on the macbook solve the problem?

also wrong thread.
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Running Solus Budgie, any way I can make the maximize/minimize smooth or at least non-teary?
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>>61311073

Yeah, formatting it as exFAT on my Macbook works, but it kinda sucks there's no good universal file system.

I just want a filesystem that can hold more than 4GB and be used with any computer. :(
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>>61311129
I actually use NTFS on that. It never actually shit the bed on GNU/Linux and I can confidently ignore all the performance issues if it's just a usb thumbstick we're talking about.
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>>61310553
Stylus works well.
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>>61311366
sage goes in options
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>>61311408
Yeah, I know.
I wasn't trying to sage this desu, I actually tried to sage some stupid ass shit last time and forgot to remove the sage from name.
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>>61311408
Sage goes in all the fields
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>>61311607
>>61311445
>>61311408
>>61311366
sage is not a downvote fellow redditors
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>>61311665
>sage is not a downvote fellow redditors
no one implied it was.
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WTFBBQ Server admins

Backstory: I am trying to deploy a cafe/coworking space and have been constantly attempting to cut costs and move infrastructure to cloud without losing usability. I am not an IT person so running server on location doesn't seem prudent yet I balked at the quoted price from a Citrix Service Provider to lease their setup.

Conundrum: I have three specific users at my location: generic browser/data entry, gamers, and power users. The main cost point seems to be excessive licensing costs given that I will have a core amount of users needing persistence and a great deal more who will only visit my location a few times. Minimizing costs without excessive headache is my goal. Therefor, for desktop OS I would like to run linux desktops on a cloud server which then sends PCoIP to terminals. Windows software will be delivered through software virtualized and delivered through html5 browser through services Frame or Apporto where I only need to provide software licensing.

The topic question: Is this feasible and a cheaper way of doing things that will still be speedy? If anything on the diagram jumps out as a No!/Yes!/Try this! I would love to know. Bonus questions if you're so kind to answer - what recommendations do you have for how to setup my cloud linux, what distro, and with what provider?
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>>61311765
I think unRAID offers a ready-to-go solution for exactly what you want to do (ie. application server).
Question is whether the cost is prohibitive for you and I'm not trying to shill, just the first thing that came to mind.

Replicating the functionality is entirely possible, but just a lot of work.
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>>61306471

hey guys, I need a virtual machine to run kahli linux. i'm on windows 10. i used one in my last classes, but it felt more like a virus, and crashed a bunch no matter what I did. it will be just for simple penetration testing stuff. which program would be best?
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Finally installing Gentoo.
Which filesystem does /fglt/ prefer?
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>>61311970
virtualbox
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>>61312156
ext4 because there's nothing that can go wrong.
I doubt you'll benefit from xfs on a desktop system.
and butterfs is still plagued by some problems iirc.
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>>61311903
Thanks for suggestion. I think unRAID i need to host my own server on site and it's all over LAN. I was hoping to move the server to a cloud so I have nothing on location other than the router + terminals. I will investigate!
>>
>organizing shit
.htm or .html and why?
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>>61312901
isn't .htm just a remnant of DOS forcing three-letter extensions?
>>
Anybody know how to install Python 3.6.1 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS? Ubuntu's wiki has no mention of it and all the google results I'm getting look like shady sites and they all want me to add some "jonathonf" repository. Is this the right way to go about it or are my shady feels correct?
>>
>>61312929
this
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>>61312901
Modern browsers are clever. You can aswell name your files .fag; the browser will still render it.
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>>61313007
>google
but anon, why aren't you using a search engine which respects your benis?
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>>61313007
build it from source
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>>61313007
Installing a custom version of python on a distro like Ubuntu should be done with a virtual enviroment. Built the newest version from source and read how to set up a virtual env for this version.
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>>61312901
how to make love
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>>61313108
Not him but, holy shit. I left the botnet a while ago and use searx for my daily search, but I always come back to Boogle for reverse image searching. Help. How to free myself.
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>>61313130
>custom version of python
What do you mean "custom"? The python website says 3.6.1 is the latest "maintenance" version.

Also what is a virtual environment and why do I need one?
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>>61313075
> clever
> has to be spoonfed with Content-Type header
Modem browsers are brainlets. Netscape-sama was too clever and killed by anti-intellectual would-be revolutionaries who turned out to be ocd tyrants.
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>>61313184
programming languages are like programs
a program with version 1.0 does things like "this" and
a program with version 2.0 does thinge like "that"
you can't just "upgrade" to the "newest" version of python and expect that programs just work, because you're using different versions
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>>61313263
Arch can. :^)
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>>61313283
yeah and then archfags are mad because shit like python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080 doesn't work, not realizing that arch is using python3 by default and when you tell them, they claim "arch is bleeding edge so its using the NEWEST versions!!1, why are you using ancient shit"
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>>61313283
>>61313332
Please, not this shit again.
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>>61313263
>you can't just "upgrade"

I'm not upgrading? I've never installed python in the first place.
>>
What distro would you recommend to have for rescure/fixing shit on a USB stick?
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>>61313379
sudo apt install python3
Or do it from software centre or whatever it's called these days.
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>>61313406
puppy
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>>61313406
KNOPPIX!
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>>61313422
>KNOPPIX
Mein Neger, thanks for the 90s feels. This thingy is still around?
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>>61313406
arch linux
>>
can I just clone my current setup to usb and when it breaks clone it back to disk?
>>
So I successfully installed Gentoo in my VM, now can I use it on bare metal or do I need to start over?
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DPKG IS BEING A NIGGER

GOD HELP ME, THE PIECE OF SHIT WONT DO ANYTHING.

Is there any way to reinstall it, i am running dpkg 1.18.10ubuntu amd64 and i just fucking cant do anything , i have been trying for almost 2 days to make this piece of shit run.

Everytime i try to do anything it tells me that samba and its libraries have a bunch of unmet dependencies and just nopes out.

I dont want to reinstall the entire OS, it seems like a stupid workaround to reinstall because of just a faulty package install
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>>61313450
Yeah apparently, new releases and all.
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>>61313567
apt-get install -f
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>>61313567
dpkg -r --force-all everything you fucked up then install it back
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>>61313567
Did you try downloading the .deb files and installing then like I said yesterday?
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>>61313753
Y-yes

>>61313660
I will be removing every single package giving problems
might take me a while
>>
what distro should i get? im tired of windows10 i mainly use my computer to browse and watch movies, ubuntu is out of the question
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>>61313917
Linux from Scratch
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>>61313909
This one >>61298880
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Gentoo newfag from earlier.
Should I install systemd or not?
I don't want to be restricted to bad functionality because of /g/'s paranoia, unless it's justified.
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>>61314163
It won't gain you anything atm.
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>>61313917
Fedora is a good start.
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>>61314140
I saw your post and it didnt work.

I might know what is being the problem

I remember changing python to python3, so whenever i invoke it from the command line it directly launches python3 instead of python.

The niggerliciousness of it is that the modules cant parse correctly because they are loading the incorrect version of python, based on this ump when trying to do shit.

https://pastebin.com/yWT1sYzV
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>>61314163
Don't listen to all the reverse psychology. Systemd is the new kid on the block and you should be asking what systemd can do for you that OpenRC can't, not the other way around.

Oh, also if you think it's strange that I said systemd is the new kid on the block despite its almost ubiquitous adoption on all mainstream distros then let that be your redflag warning that something might not be quite normal about the development of systemd.
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>>61314163
use sysvinit or openrc
Systemd is literal cancer and there is no reason to be using it
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>>61314210
>>61314228
I'll take your word for it. Thanks.
Should I make an openrc profile the same way you would with systemd?
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>>61314205
>I remember changing python to python3, so whenever i invoke it from the command line it directly launches python3 instead of python.
why would you think it's okay to do that
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>>61314253
Not sure what you mean by profile. But Gentoo is all set up and ready to go with OpenRC by default, you don't really have to do anything.
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>>61314296
Alright. Appreciate the help.
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>>61314263
It seemed like a great idea back then
>>
On a dual core system load avg. below 2.0 is considered normal right?
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Okay so I'm following the instructions for an online guide for learning python, and I'm stuck on what is PROBABLY really obvious to all of you.

They want me to make a directory, save a text file there, then cd to that directory and open the text file via command line. Great no proble, so what I've done is:

mkdir lpthw
cd lpthw


Works just fine. Problem is I open text editor, then when I try to save the file there, I can't find the "lpthw" folder anywhere. I know it exists because when I try to mkdir again, it tells me it can't because it already exists. What gives?
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>>61314205
Kill yourself.
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>>61313412
THANK YOU!!!
>>
So that systemd name parsing issue that was closed with not-a-bug? It has a CVE now https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2017-1000082
>>
>>61314387
>text editor
Which one?
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>>61314406
poettering has a history of closing bugs by "just change distro defaults" or something silly like that.
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>>61314414
>systend delete your motherboard firmware.
>"Oh well SOMETIMES systemd needs to write those variables,so there is a good reason for it to be WRITEABLE by DEFAULT ALL THE TIME"
>CLOSED WONTFIX
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>>61314414
based poettereroting, how does he find all these bugs in other peoples code
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>>61314387
Did you look in the directory that your terminal is in? It is probably your home directory.
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>>61314447
based nothing,he is a retard that cant admit when he makes mistakes
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>>61314439
>>systend delete your motherboard firmware.
>>"Oh well SOMETIMES systemd needs to write those variables,so there is a good reason for it to be WRITEABLE by DEFAULT ALL THE TIME"
>>CLOSED WONTFIX

Oh shit nigger dont scare me like that, you better post some sauce with that shit
>>
>>61314475
It was fixed in the kernel.
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>>61314439
On that issue I have to side with Lenny 2bh.
It is not system's responsibility to hold your hand and the issue was actually motherboard manufacturer's fault to not include a failsafe or a retard functionality which would restore firmware to it's original state.

Anyways, it's all fault of UEFI anyways. There was absolutely nothing fucking wrong with BIOS.

>>61314475
Here is the issue in question
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402
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>>61314489
Having it writeable at ALL TIMES is an issue.It should be ro until the time that it needs to be changed.And it is only changed when people fucking go in and change it.Having it WORLD WRITABLE is fucking retarded

I have never accidently over written my bios or other rom based things.Because you have to fucking make it WRITEABLE
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>>61314489
>It is not systemd's responsibility to hold your hand
Yes it is your moron. This is going to be installed on thousands of devices, some of those people will make mistakes or just be plain stupid. There is no reason not to code defensively and every reason to because assuming your users are reasonable geniuses mean that while coding you are not only not defending against stupid users but also malicious users.
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>>61314489
>hold your hand
What's your take on this on then,faggot
>>
>>61314513
>>61314528
Buddy you don't have to be furious about it
I don't actually use systembotnet on my systems, I'm just trying to show a different perspective.
It was clearly manufacturer's fault.

>>61314558
Legacy from thousand of hours of experience working with Unix systems.
It's easy to commit such a stupid mistake by mistakenly pressing spacebar in the wrong place at the wrong time
Are you trying to tell me that running
rm -rf /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/
could be achieved by accident?
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systemd is for CIA niggers
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>>61314597
take your pills terry.
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>>61314584
The original post was on the arch forums.
The guy was going to do a fresh install and wanted to see what happens when you use the no preserve root switch
Well he found out with systemd it kills your motherboard firmware!!!!

No other init has this problem
>>
>>61314411
Text Editor

>>61314451
I think I did? Its whatever directory it defaults to when you haven't cd'd to anything specific.
>>
>>61314622
>text editor
Nigga seriously?
What fucking program does it bring up....
>>
>>61314630
The program is fucking called "Text Editor"
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>>61314611
even if i wanted to wipe / i'd probably do it from a rescue shell and not a live root

though i'm not surprised it was an arch child
>>
>>61314584
>a different perspective
If you showed that perspective while working for me I would fire your ass.
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>>61314642
Dosent happen with openrc
Dosent happen with sysvinit

Only happens with shitstemd

poettering is a retarded man baby who cant admit a mistake
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
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>>61314584
>Legacy from thousand of hours of experience working with Unix systems.
>Unix systems
So you are >80 years old?
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>>61314584
>could be achieved by accident
The problem is undefined variables in scripts. Use your imagination.
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How the FUCK do i modify a symlink?
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>>61314682
Well gee thank God I don't have a despotic boss that fires someone for having a different opinion.
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>>61314608
I WROTE A FUCKEN COMPILER
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>>61314708
unlink <symlink path>
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>>61314711
>>>/r/ebbit
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>>61314711
Try when it runs on actual hardware and not Rajboontu VM.
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>>61314710
If your opinion is not in line with the company,why do you think you would be allowed to work there?
>>
>>61314725
who is this modular semen system?
>>
>>61314727
monoculture is always bad in the long run.
>>
>>61314710
>different opinion
You mean coding up a program that you fully expect people to use without auditing the code themselves and not coding for edge cases or situations that you think are unreasonable? Yeah, that's a shit opinion.
>>
>>61314739
if you agree with peta,but work at a butcher shop...
>>
>>61314708
delete and make a new one
>>
>>61313406
a debian/ubuntu live dvd
>>
>>61314722
>>>/vg/
>>
Okay so when I did mkdir, I hadnt cd'd into anything. That should mean the directory I made is in the home folder, right? But its not there when I navigate to it through the file explorer. What am I doing wrong? I can cd to it in the terminal, but I can't see it and I can't save anything to it.
>>
>>61314748
I see no problem with your analogy.
I could work as a butcher and still deeply support ethical treatment of animals which also includes killing animals for consumption in the most humanely way possible and making use of all parts of the killed animal instead of taking the good bits and throwing the rest into the trash because that's wasteful.

Hell I would kind of expect butchers to agree with peta, otherwise theyd be just sociopaths wouldn't they?
>>
>>61314780
What user is the terminal run as?
>>
>>61314780
type 'pwd' in the folder you create.Make sure you are going to the right place when you look for it
>>
>>61314810
Root. I don't ever fuck with sudo unless its sudo -i right before I log in.

....and it just occurred to me that thats the problem, isn't it? I made the directory as root so its hidden from my normal user account, isn't it?
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>>61314752
>>61314708

2 DAYS

2 FUCKING DAYS I HAVE BEEN SLAVING AWAY AT THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT BECAUSE I MODIFIED THE PYTHON SYMLINK

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

ty everyone who helped, now i can resume procrastinating with the development of my MySQL database
>>
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Kernel
>Choose an appropriate kernel source and install it using emerge:
emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-sources


This isn't installing the linux kernel sources into /usr/src/ for some reason.
Does anyone know what I can do? I've been up all night reading the handbook and applying everything carefully.
It would be a kick in the balls if something wrong has occurred.
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>>61314842
give it a rest and go smoke a cigarette to contemplate what you just did.
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how bad is use gpg on a unencrypted disk?
>>
>>61314859
If the same unencrypted disk also stores your gpg private key than it sorts of defeats the purpose which I just realized oh god I'm so fucking stupid.
>>
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>>61314858
With Linux you learn something new every day.
Now i know not to fuck with symlinks
>>
>>61314871
They are quite useful tool though, you can always run
file <yourfilehere>
and it will tell you whether it's a symlink and what it links
>>
>>61314837
Yeah the root home dir is /root and other users can't read it.
>>
There are people in this thread, right now, who run a collection of programs with root privilegues made by programmers, so new, that they think rm .* will delete your whole hard drive.
>>
>>61314870
but still u need a password to use it? I mean it's not ideal but it's not that bad, isn't it?
>>
>>61314910
Hey Mr. Perfect. Glad to meet some guy who is free from any errors. Care to give an autogram?
>>
>>61314926
I'm fairly sure if you get hold of the private key bruteforcing a password would take very little time with powerful desktop computer
>>
>>61314910
Yeah, you need a hammer to delete hard drives.
>>
Anyone who can tell me like I'm 5 years old how secure ssh is? Things I'm thinking about:
>can the server read any variables?
>can the server read installed stuff?
>is it like when you connect to a website with your browser or does the server see nothing?
>>
>>61314949
eh, just use a torch and boil it.
>>
>>61314982
>>61314949
Have a pack of thermite ready to ignite above your storage devices.

Shit doesnt start easily so you are safe, the problem will be finding a way to ignite it reliably.
>>
>>61314949
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402
>>
>>61314976
The difference between SSH and Telnet (it's indirect predecessor) is that transfer of all data is encrypted. You'll commonly find the term "tunnel" when reading about SSH, cause that's pretty much what it is.
>>
>>61314976
Eh, the server you are sshed into? Root can see everything because the secure session terminates there...
>>
>>61314945
Thanks for ur answer, I'll take care of it
>>
>>61315018
*whoosh*
>>
claiming the 306th post
>>
inb4 everyone too lazy to make a new thread and the mad because some commie-friendly thread shows up

mark my words
>>
>>61315018
This is so old it grew hair.
>>
>>61315086
no idea why the OP's so large. Newfags don't read it anyway
>>
>>61315107
there's a hotkey that can copy selected text "ctrl+c"
with "ctrl+v" you can paste it
>>
>>61315107
>so large
I know these words.
>>
*5 minutes of silence while everyone waits for the other guy who makes the new thread*
>>
How can I prepackage something with my debian install? I know that my T420's wifi card won't work out of the box so I want to just keep the .deb file with everything else.
>>
When you see it, you'll shit bricks: >>61315190
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>>61306471
Which distro is the most well maintained and governed?
>>
>>61315210
Source Mage GNU/Linux
>>
>>61315197
This is most likely what you're looking for

https://debian-administration.org/article/529/Making_Debian_packages_from_proprietary_software

Otherwise you either do it the "proper" ie worthy of putting in a repository way - debuild or the "just for me and my internet friends" way ie checkinstall
>>
>>61315210
I'd say debian. It's been around the longest time and it's not owned by a corporation.
>>
>>61313166
tineye
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