/pcbg/ - PC Building General

first for kill all miners

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>>61287144
>mfw I bought 96 gpus in April

>>61287180
How much money did you lose yet?

>>61287196
Already got ROI, pure profit mode now

>>61287196
96*(Cost of GPU)=Who gives a fuck.

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Hey senpai how you want ur power supply?

*sigh* I just killed my 1TB Caviar Black. I was setting up a computer to sell, noticed the cage was buzzing and the seeks were loud as hell, and decided to try moving it to one of the optical bays to get it horizontal and in a different cage. The holes didn't line up so I decided to just cram it in the floppy bay.

BEEP BEEP BEEP

From the clicking noises it's making, it be dead.
Sucks because I actually swapped that one out of my main rig for an 82 bad sector Seagate because the Black was faster and clean.

Now I have THREE more computers than I do hard drives.

>>61287180
If you put all that money into buying ETH instead, you would have made way way way more dosh.

>>61287232
I don't understand. What is going on here.

>>61287244
Damn it it's a PC not a woman you can't just jam it in

I've found a dual bulldozer server (2× opteron 16 core, 64GB DDR3-1333) for 410 dollars. No discrete gpu, but it has an integrated one and has PCI-E 16x 2.0 slots. Is it worth the money to upgrade my desktop PC (currently old phenom II)?

>>61287268
I jammed my RAM in when it wouldn't fit

>>61287265
>he doesn't know
Enjoy getting sub-optimal performance out of your PSU.

>>61287257
Well maybe, but investing and mining are strategically different. Had I just bought ETH it's very likely I would have sold before its current price. Not to mention that I did exactly that with more than the cost of those gpus anyway and with more than just ETH

>>61287297
You would have made more.
Have more liquid cash.
Now you are making profit sure but your investment is still sitting in the form of GPUs vs the guy who can easily move his money into the newest commodity.
The best way to make money for crypto is to treat it like stocks rather than goods.

>>61287327
Mining is about passive income with minimal risk not about managing commodities... I have plenty of liquidity available elsewhere so that is of no concern. But this is totally off topic now.

>>61287244
>noticed the cage was buzzing
mine is doing this on two hard drives and it's killing me

>>61287128
>NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot

W-what? You can still boot from them, right?

>>61287431
In my main rig I just cut up an old mousepad and rest them on it. They're not even screwed in.

Yo /g/ do you guys have any recommendations for a graphics card for this build or would it be better to wait?

Generally I play kinda old games but occasionally I like playing games like LoL. I have a pretty hard limit set at $1000

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nKd9zM

Thanks

>>61287551
1050 and 1050ti cards are not inflated and should fit the build nicely.

>>61287551
>i3
>1 x RAM stick
You can do so much better.

>>61287551
Switch out the i3 for a Intel - Pentium G4560

GTX 1050 or 1050ti

I'm >>61287261 and since my motherboard only takes DDR2 ram sticks will buying a gtx1050ti or rx560 even work since they have ddr5?

>>61287623
DDR2 is referring to the system memory, not the vram on your gpu.

Either of those cards will work with your system assuming it has a PCIe x16 lane on it.

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So...

This is my build.

I want a new graphics card in the $200-250 range.

The problem is...

My monitors are on DVI-D (Philips 243V) and VGA (Philips 150S4, I have a DVI-I converter).

Is there any way I could get a reasonably modern graphics card without having to buy new monitors? What card would that be?

I've scoured all the 1060's and 1050 ti's, and none of them seem to have two DVI's (and one MUST support analog signal).

>>61287623
GPU memory is totally unrelated to system RAM, and anyway GPU memory isn't 'ddr5' it's GDDR5.

A core 2 duo is kind of shitty though and might just bottleneck anyway, what resolution are you playing at?

>>61287577
>>61287593
How about this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B697jc

>>61287583
My thought process on the RAM is that I could upgrade later if I really felt I needed it.

>>61287128
>gore
Come on man

>>61286778
How are used 970 prices? They were going for like $125-$150. They aren't a very good mining card so I would think they wouldn't have been hit very hard.

Worst case, just get like a 6770, GTX 960, or some shit like that.

>>61287441
Yes but it doesn't make sense to spend the extra money just for faster os boot

>>61287653
>How about this?
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B697jc

Seems fine.

>>61287655
Fucking kikes priced the G4560 at 75 dollars? At that price, just pay the extra 5 bucks for the G4600. Everything else is good but you can consider upgrading your RAM now since you have a 1k budget.

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when is volta coming

>>61287714
Q1 2018

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>>61287726

>>61287675
get G4600 like the other anon suggested and up your ram speed to 2400mhz (it's the max b250 mobos can use)

I want to get a new build for ~1200€, Spain.
The thing is I don't know what CPU and GPU to get, I want it to be aesthetic and watercooled so I'd be spending +400€ already between cooler, case, and modular PSU.

What CPU/GPU combination should I get for 600-700€?

>>61287793
1600 + 1060

>>61287756
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B697jc
>>61287690
>>61287675

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XwdxM8

I'm curious about the graphics card. I've never used the mini-itx cases before and didn't know how well the graphics card would fit?

Thanks

>>61287812
Check the product description
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gHkD4D/corsair-case-cc9011047ww
MAXIMUM VIDEO CARD LENGTH
11.42"

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yprcCJ/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n105tg1-gaming-4gd
LENGTH
8.62" (219mm)

It will fit

>>61287644
It does have one.
If I were to chooste between mentioned GPUs the NVidia is the better choice since it has 4 instead of 2GBs of Ram right?

>>61287653
Mostly play at 1280x1024 while fiddling with antialiasing and lower-end quality.
I'm thinking about ricing it up though by putting an Core 2 Quad Q9650 inside.
The next step would be the extreme series but I think instead of buying it I would be better off getting a new mobo which could get 8+ cores. Not willing to do that yet.
And modding to put a xeon inside it seems to much of gamble to me.

>>61287834
Thanks guys!

You guys are a massive help!

>>61287741

Well if you've got 20 grand you can get on the short list for srs bsns volta.

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>>61287836
>1280x1024
>1050Ti
It's massive overkill at that resolution, you'll 100% be CPU limited. Even at 1080p a 1050Ti should max pretty much everything at 60FPS-ish.

I'd usually say to change the CPU first, but since right now is about the worst time to buy a CPU since 2010, just buy the 1050Ti now if you feel you need it, then change the CPU at the end of the year/the start of next year. Besides, it's not like you can have 'too much' GPU power.

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>>61287903
hmmmm

>>61287836
>the better choice since it has 4 instead of 2GBs of Ram right?
RAM does not correlate with performance, look at benchmarks to get an actual idea of performance.

Car analogies are usually shit but in this case I feel it might help you understand. It's like judging the performance of a car based on the size of the tyres. Sure, lower end card usually have smaller tyres and performance card usually have larger tyres but it most certainly shouldn't be what you're basing your decision on.

>>61287645
Bump. Been scouring Amazon for the last half-hour, can't seem to find any graphics card in the 10xx series which would still have VGA/ DVI-I connectors.

What. The. Fuck.

>>61287957
>VGA/ DVI-I
No way in hell you'll find any modern, powerful card with a VGA out, not sure about DVI-I. Some manufacturers have even dropped DVI altogether and just do Display Port and HDMI now. Shit for people like me who have a Korean monitor that only accepts DVI-D and nothing else.

>>61287180
>96 gpus
>not asic miners that cost the same
Dude, you just lost the chance to get 10x mining capacity for the same price... I hope it was a really, really good deal, otherwise you just done goofed.

>>61287985
Fuck.

So getting a new monitor with this is pretty much a must.

Is there a list of /g/ approved budget gaming monitors?

>>61287998
Most new cryptos have asic proof algos. Can't mine ether with it which is probably what he's doing.

>>61288007
Yeah, VGA out hasn't been a thing since like AMD's 7000 series, they just included a VGA adapter in the box. Looks like on the 10xx series they've gone with just all digital outputs.

I guess you could use active converters, but I don't know how well that would work.

>>61288076
Damn. I guess I'll give it a bit of time, to get a monitor at the same time.

>>61287128
They didn't think to dremel the back end of the pci-e slot instead? Stuff like this is why I've been avoiding Radeon on the used market for a while. Don't want to deal with the issues caused by retardation by overclockers and miners.

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>>61288019
>mining anything other than btc
for what purpose?

>>61288206
This has fuckall to do with miners
http://www.invisiblerobot.com/pcie_x1/

>>61288076
Fyi Nvidia stopped supporting dvi in 10 series and AMD does not really matter since there's no cards in stock

>>61288322
>Nvidia stopped supporting dvi in 10 series
Partner boards still have DVI-D thank God.

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>>61288322
My 1070 has dvi

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>>61288242
I expect that kind of retardation from miners and overclockers. Didn't say that picture was caused by either one of them.

Thank you for the link tho. Painful to watch.

>>61288233
Because btc mining is a Chinese Monopoly so unless you have a gigamining plant in a country with cheap electricity almost every other gpu coin will be more profitable.

Two questions my beloved /pcbg/
>what's a decent <$500 laptop for everyday use; emails, surfing, etc
>how hard is it to add/replace RAM to a premade laptop?

>>61288861
Used business laptop (sans MBP, those might be more than 500 dollars due to the jew hipsters). Dell, HP, and Lenovo have several good laptops in multiple size ranges that you can now find for much less than 500 dollars.

>>61288897
Thanks man. I'm aiming for under $500 dollarydoos so about 250-300USD

>>61288919
Check dankpads.com if you want to see what specific models there are.

If you don't mind sandy/ivybridge era hardware, you can find those for about 100-200 dollars. Get one that looks in mint condition if you care about that kind of stuff. Replacement parts can be more expensive than the laptop is worth.

How long till the miner craze dies down? My friend wants to buy a videocard

>>61289423
Early 2018

Was thinking about getting a second ssd for gaymes, but I could get 2 hdd's for that price and set them up on Raid 0. How much faster is raid 0 than using a single hdd?
What hard drive is good for raid? I was thinking 2tb drives.

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Is Zen2 going to drop into current AM4 motherboards?

>>61289686
RAID 0 wouldn't help much. Even a SSD doesn't do much for load times except in a few cases.

>>61289686
Waste of time, any SSD pisses all over any HDD setup you can put together.

>>61289868
>Even a SSD doesn't do much for load times except in a few cases.
Respectfully disagree. Load times in games that take a week to load like Skyrim and GTA5 are much improved with an SSD, and with an SSD you'll usually be first to load in on multiplayer games.

Means in games like Rising Storm 2 you can get whatever class you like, every time :^)

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Thoughts? Any glaring flaws/really obvious improvements? Haven't build a computer from scratch before, only upgraded them.

Already have a 1TB HDD.

>>61290062
Looks good but damn how much is the Ti gonna set you back? The Define mini C is a beautiful case, not sure how it'll fit the GPU though

>>61290062
>evga 1080ti
>not msi gaming, gigabyte aorus or asus strix
Are you even trying?

>>61289686
do not listen to
>>61289868
SSD's are noticable faster than a 7200 rpm HDD (fastest consumer HDD) for loading

if you dont care about long term data retention(you can recover games in steam for instance)

id suggest the SSD

if you use raid 0 or a zmirror your I/O is multiplexed

the down side is that HDD are mechanically limited by the arm

you can also raid 0 / zmirror SSD which doesnt have the delay of a mechanic arm and you will notice the full effect of raid 0 / zmirrors

imagine if you had 20 SSD's in a raid 0 / zmirror configuration lol

also dont use hardware raid controllers

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From last thread I decided on an anons suggestion of https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bd6qnn but what would typically be the lifespan of this build , could I just later upgrade the ram to 16 or add that now and be set for like 5 years or something for all future AAA titles? and I am good with 30fps and 1080p any which way.

>>61290155
>SSD's are noticable faster than a 7200 rpm HDD (fastest consumer HDD) for loading
You know he can Google this.

Right?

What's your agenda?

>>61290062
Okay guys, jokes over. Stop building every damn PC in a Fractal case. There are plenty of other minimalist, sound dampened choices out there.

>>61290180
Ehh you'd be pushing 2yrs for AAA titles.

>>61290308
But FD has some of the sexiest minimalist aesthetics. If you've got another suggestion I'm all ears

>>61290308
But I've heard Fractal Designs™ make the best and most affordable cases in the industry.

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Is there anything missing? Pc wont show any signs of booting.

>>61290308
>S-stop buying the best c-case for minimalism!
Fuck off /fa/ fag, nobody cares about your opinions here.

>>61290326
Even at 30 fps at 1080p?

>>61289868
>>61289869
>>61289887
>>61290155
>>61290274
Thanks for the info anons, I'll probably grab a second ssd during black Friday or something and an hdd for now.
What's the best hdd available? I've used WD Blue before but they're one of the slower ones out there. Was thinking a Seagate, Toshiba, or one of the hgst refurbs. Some say the hgst is loud though, this true? I'd prefer quieter to faster.

>>61289861
Yes. That is what AMD has told us.

Nad it doesnt matter that they use smaller silicon or dies, as long as the socket and the chipset are the same, which can probably be done easily.

>>61290332
>>61290378
It's not the 1990s anymore. We've moved on beyond conventional midi towers black boxes.
Other manufacturers fit 180mm and even 200mm fans where Fractal only fits 120mm and 140mm fans in the same size case.

>>61289423
>>61289481
We have no idea.
The GPU insanity can last as long as it's profitable.

>>61290332
Corsair 400 C/Q
Purebase 600
Kublai 07
Off the top of my head. If you just want minimalism without sound dampening, you have In-Win lines, Silverstone Temjin series, NZXT S340/H440, etc.

>>61290378
Without joking I'm running an R3 in my main machine, but I don't get the fanboyism.

>>61290451
Eat a bag of dicks.

>>61290458
Ehhh it really depends on what sort of requirements they'll require; it's kinda hard to predict 5yrs of AAA requirements. But you'd be fine for 2yrs and in that time you can save money to snag a cheap 1060 6GB next year, as well as another 2x4 RAM kit and maybe even a second hand i5 for that chipset

Are SFX builds a meme? They look so slick but they must be deafening.

>>61290458
Yeah, depending on the games, obviously. But you should be able to play 1080p 30 for the next three-four years high-medium. I'd go with a 570 4GB (once they're in stock) to ensure 60 fps

>>61290523
Oh, my bad, the H440 has sound dampening.

>>61290535
SFX as in the PSU form factor? Pretty decent actually they stay apssiva until a certain load nowadays and there are some pretty good ones out there.

I want to find my cheapest option for a VR ready GPU, my research led me to RX480, am I in the right direction?

Are PWM fans worth it?

>>61290591
SFF builds using cases like the NCase M1, Dan Case A4 or similar.

>>61290482
WD is always better in my opinion

also they have a nice return policy

>>61290482
Blue or the Seagate will hit 200MB/s.

this might be an awkward question

uhh what do you even do with your old pc filled with useless (but functional) parts

>>61290816
I ask around if anyone in my family needs a working PC.

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How do I get the black pin back in there?

>>61290816
Id like to know this too; I'm now up to 4 PCs that just sit in various states of completion around my apartment. Hell, one I'm using as a bedside table

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tJxTf8

What do you think, /g/?

>>61290668
They are pretty good thse days actually. Modern day components don't draw that much power and emit that much heat and are really compact. Sure you have Intel's stutterlake-x efforts but a midrange setup with a R5 1600 and a 1060 6gb is really no problem anymore. They make anything up to the GTX 1070 in mini forms for mITX builds and they are barely slower. I startet my 10 liter case build with a Pentium and a 1050ti mini and I feel like I could run this stuff passive.
The new Ryzen mITX boards are gonna drop soon and I'll upgrade to said 1600/10606gb combo I guess. But the Pentium and 1050ti combo is stronger than I expected. Thank god I already bought the 1060.
Why don't you post a build and I can comment/r8/h8?

>>61290972
Looks good. Hit it

>>61290972
212 evo is garbage cooler. cryorig h7 / be quiet pure rock cost about the same and perform better. also you'd be fine with 650w or even 550w psu.

>>61290972
Should get an ssd, makes a big difference.

>>61290986
Something like https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pR6qnn in a Dan Case A4. Samsung 850 PRO because I already own it. (Not sure if I want a blower style GPU in this case, as a regular can function like an intake fan in this case).

>>61291178
I am going back and forth between this SFF build and this mid-tower build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TZK2Cy
Also going back and forth between RX-580 and the GTX 1070, but I don't think that will matter much for the form factor.

>>61291248
gtx 1070, my guy. why would you want worse performance.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/chillzone/saved/gs3hMp

>>61291268
I am going to keep using my 1080p 60hz monitor for the next few years, and I would rather buy a more budget oriented card now and upgrade later when I buy a new monitor.

Should i get the MSI B350m Mortar Arctic or the Asrock AB350m Pro4?

I'm planning on overclocking.

>>61291178
Looks good to me. A couple o fpoints though:
>the case seems to deal with top down blower GPUs quite well from what I've heard since the card sits in its own compartment
>the mobo is really new so be sure to check if the ram is compatible with it
>PSU is very good, I ahve the same, but the price is pretty high, I think I paid less. But well it's not like there's much choice or variation in price. Silverstone prices are the same.
>CPU cooler is great but make sure it fits the AM4 socket

>>61291248
mid tower cases are boring so unless you know you will need more space for more cards in the future don't do it.

>>61291298
i play at 1080p60 with the gtx 1070. gonna get a 4k monitor soon or maybe hook up my pc to this 50 inch 4k tv i'm getting for the new football (soccer) season.

i had a 980 before which is basically on par with a 580. the performance leap is huge. literally locked 60 fps in all games.

Looking for the cheapest build someone can make that uses one or two Xeon 2697v2 CPUs

https://ark.intel.com/products/75283/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2697-v2-30M-Cache-2_70-GHz

Second-hand is okay (probably a necessity)

Got them for free and want to make use of them for shits and giggles and playing Minecraft

>>61291178
>>61291359
oh btw are you sure you want to go with 2 2.5 inch drives? I know you already have one but I'm not a fan of 5400 rpm drives.

>>61291359
Yeah, midtower seems boring to me too, I am just worried about the Dan Case being too loud and regretting it later on. I want the Corsair one because it's supposed to be the most quiet on paper.

>>61291361
Fair enough, but it's not like either of them is available at the moment.

>>61291413
Case can only hold 2.5 inch drives. I have the SSD but need some more storage for my dank animes.

>>61291482
I know the case is pretty tight, does to mobo support M2 drives? That would save space and you can have animus albeit at quite a price.
You can always go for a compromise in terms of size, like a Silverstone Sugo series case or the Lian Li Q11 or Thermaltake Core V1 whoch should allow 3.5 HDD bays

>>61291574
I'm not too worried about the slow drive, like I said, it's mostly to hold my media.

With Volta and Navi supposedly around the corner (sometime in 2018?), Is getting a 1080 ti bad idea?

>>61291595
Alright, no worries then from my side. I hear the DAN A4 is close to being sold out so you better hurry up with that

>>61287244
Don't forget, only seagate drives fail.

Western digital never fails and can do no wrong.

Don't forget to spend the extra 20 bucks to get the black edition goy.

>>61291620
There's always something new around the corner. If you're going to wait you're going to wait forever.

>>61291683
unless there's a true confirmed game changer coming. Which is almost never the case.

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I need to upgrade /g/. Do I bite the bullet and go for the 1151 chipset? The would require a new mobo, cpu, and ram (all of which are desperately needed at this point). My only other option would be what, a i7 4970k? As far as I'm aware, the 1150s will be phased out for the newer gen, and I may as well make my computer future proof now by upgrading to current/future chipsets. Thoughts?

First ever build, how did I do

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Bsmcc

>>61291723
Kek. 1151 won't be any more """future proof""" than your current build.
>A socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear

>>61291760
So what do you suggest I do? I would appreciate some help rather than a condescending remark

>>61291723
There is no such thing as future-proof senpai. Upgrade when you need to, not before.

>>61291813
AM4 will be supported till 2020. Ryzen 5 1600 would be a good pick in your case.

>>61291737
- get faster ram, 3000mhz or more. ideally pick it from motherboard's QVL.
- get at least 240gb hdd. 128g is not enough when games can be 40gb or more. unless you will be using it for OS + programs only.
the rest is good, though i'm sure there's someone here to shit on fractal design cases.

>>61289861
I bought a X370 Taichi hoping that it will get supported while AM4 gets new CPUs. I hope I don't get fucked up the ass and am forced to get a new board for Zen2.

Or are the board manufactures bound by contract to AMD to support all AM4 CPUs?

>>61291737
>falling for the 8GB meme
You can always sell off extra RAM for double the price later on.

>>61287128

I'm using my old pc for a file server but its kinda loud and hot.

Are those integrated ITX atoms/celerons any good? All I need is 4 sata ports no raid or anything

x370 mATX when? or at least one w/o all the video out options?

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>>61287128
>tfw when found cheap as fuck 200 yuros rx580 brand new just in time to finish my amd build

r8 my build, m8s, 8/8?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cQKKTH

It's for vidya gayming, entry level indie game dev, photoshop, and I'm gonna try out animating in something like Toon Boom.

>>61292613
Hook a yurobro up senpai

>>61292675
I forgot to mention that I'm waiting for RX Vega, so there isn't a GPU on the list, right now.

>>61292675
No GPU? And are you sure you need a 750W PSU?

>>61292713
I'm going with an RX Vega and it looks like those might need 300 watts, and the 750 PSU isn't much more than the 550 PSU ($10, I think), so I thought I might as well get it, if I need it in the future.

>>61292675
consider a regular ssd, a smaller pcie ssd, and a hard drive instead

you won't see any benefits from the pcie ssd unless it's a scratch disk

>>61292766
Honestly, the biggest reason I want an M.2 SSD is because they don't have cables and have such a small form factor, and they're the fastest.
Plus, it's not like I'd need to upgrade the SSD for quite a few years.

>>61292788
unless the specifications page is lying to me, that m.2 slot on your board should also support sata m.2 drives as well as pcie/nvme m.2 drives

you'll save quite a bit of money while still getting great speeds. because, again, the speeds from that samsung evo don't really translate unless it's a scratch disk

I know we have no information, but how likely would zen 2 actually improve upon zen? Would a sandy bridge improvement be unlikely?

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>$200
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2c2bgL

CPU: Intel - Celeron G3900 2.8GHz Dual-Core Processor ($39.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Signature Line 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($27.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($20.50 @ Amazon)
Case: Xion - XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)

>>61292810
Shit, I'm glad you pointed that out. Are there any affordable M.2 SSDs that will fully utilize the speeds that the mobo I'm interested in supports?

I really love the idea of M.2 plugging directly into the motherboard, I prefer the fewest cables in my build.

>>61292874
http://mydigitalssd.com/pcie-m2-ngff-ssd.php

Probably. Not the 3500 mb/s that the evo and pro are, but I don't know if you'll miss those speeds.

>>61287128
Why cut

>>61292924
>>61288242

>>61292919
What about the Samsung 850 EVOs?

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how does look https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jfvxY

>>61293021
>Cooler Master
Just... no. Get a Corsair one

>>61292869
The rumor mill says Sandy bridge is over.

Other than cable management, what's wrong with skipping a bench test and building before testing?

>>61293021
Double check if the heatsink fits

I want to try to get into water cooling, are the EKWB kits good?

>>61293021
>7700k
>1050Ti

>>61293099
The worst case scenario would be having to disassemble it because the motherboard is DOA. You always want to test everything piece by piece for security purposes, configuring the BIOS as you go.

>>61293021
>7700k
>1050Ti
2/10 made me reply

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hqKb6X

This is my current build. What do I need to modify to make it better for streaming and video editing? Someone mentioned a capture card and a different hard drive.

>>61293242
>i7
>video editing and streaming
Go with Ryzen you fucking Intel shill.

>>61287128
looking for a tower upgrade from midi to big, trying to cram in a second gpu with large cooler.
I don't want some useless window i'm never going to look through anyway. I want a huge fan blowing on the GPUs from the side panel.
What are my options?
Cooler Master HAF and Cosmos II or some modern art monstrosity from thermal take that claims to be a big tower but barely gets 8 pci-e with the last one right above the PSU space?

Surely there has to be some other thing i can buy?

>>61293272
The cpu and motherboard were a gift. At 4.6 it benchmarks with a 1700

>>61293242
LED RAM for streaming and video editing? Wicked.

As for capture devices:
>External USB/etc or internal PCI-e
>Software/support (proprietary capture software or regular video device)
>Connectors (or adapters)
People mostly recommend capture devices for streaming in a two PC setup to capture the other, but honestly you could make do with a single one and skip the bullshit.

>>61293307
Isn't there an option to mark things as purchased?
Would clarify the intent.

>>61293314
LED RAM for aesthetics you fucking nerd. Could I use a standard 4tb hard drive or is there a better option?

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Xeon E3-1240 v6 and a C232 motherboard
Or wait for Ryzen 5 1500 Pro and an ECC-capable AM4 board?

What advantage would Ryzen 5 Pro have over the Xeon E3 v6 in server applications (gateway, DHCP, Unbound, NTP, etc)?
Are there any AM4 boards that are 100% confirmed to support ECC unbuffered DIMMs?
How much can I save if I did go with a Ryzen 5 Pro with the Xeon E3-1240 v6 only costing $260?
How THICC is too THICC?

>>61293338

It's all purchased. Just looking for hard drive recommendations now. I've heard WD Greens are good for capture but that might just be hearsay

>>61293242
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hqKb6X
Capture card won't help much, unless you're willing to build one pc to play games and another to stream them you'll be better off without it. Also AMD's ryzen cpus are much better at streaming and video editing than an i7 for the same price.

>>61293307
in faming it benchmarks even. not while multi-tasking.
The i7 is a gaming CPU and nothing more. You want to multi-task like streaming? Ryzen. You want to do multi-thread and multi-core things like video editing? Ryzen.
You want to game, and only game, while using a 144 Hz refresh rate monitor? i7
otherwise fuck off. You can't look at gaming benchmarks and say it's better at everything.

>>61293372
How many ram slots on the mobo? Could always overkill and use the excess as a ramdisk.

>>61293242
More cores

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>>61287128
>Saw Microcenter had a ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 STRIX 6GB for $360 in-store pickup
>Tired of waiting, only 30 min drive away
>Reserved for in-store pickup so some kikepto miner wouldn't steal it from me
>Get there, o sorry it's out of stock, someone must have picked it up
>wat.jpg
>Here you can have this Niggabyte windforce 1060 for same price.
>"o-okay I guess"
>Buy it, cashier cracks some joke about miners
>glare at pajeet
>Get in car, drive about 5 minutes, gf says that was scummy, are you sure?
>Actually you're right what the fuck am I doing
>Drive back, return the piece of shit. Mention I found it for $100 cheaper on Amazon
>"oh we can price match that"
>Sounds good actually
>Open my big mouth that it's a pre-order because muh morals
>"Lemme check with my manager"
>Comes back, "Sorry we can't do that"
>Well I'm here, mine as well check it wasn't some mistake
>Walk back over to online pickup, try to be pushy because evidently thats all that works, showed them the email they sent me
>Okay let me get my manager and we can sort this out
>Manager walks up, "No, it's out of stock, that's why we sold you the Gigakike card"
>Yeah okay bye

Welp, back to Nowinstock I guess.

>>61293432

How much of a performance boost, percentage wise, would I get with a Ryzen chip over my 6700k. Is it worth $500?

r8 my build lads
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2PqTf8
>DDR4 2133
Only temporary RAM until Ryzen mem bugs gets worked out

Could someone give me an opinion on this build please?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vjcG4C

>>61293573
Can I get an explanation on that mem bug?
I got an R5 1600 on the way with 2x4 3000s, what do?

>>61293553
What a rollercoaster.

>>61293573
i have that same ram but the 3200 version and it werks at 3000mhz

>>61293631
On Ryzen motherboards the ram can't run at the maxed rated clock but they are releasing new bios updates to fix the issues like recently they released AGESA 1.0.0.6 and people are being able to get their rated ram speeds
>>61293642
i'll end up getting the same ram

>>61293573
>Ryzen mem bugs
They're not bugs, they're a feature

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>>61293571

anyone? everyone keeps telling me to drop half a grand on new internals and i just want some quality evidence that it would be worth it.

So if I used all four memory slots across an AM4/Ryzen, the max non-oc speed I would be able to go is 2400?

Wondering about getting Flare X ram, which some goes to 3200, but has a set a 2400..

Also whats the difference between the Flare X and the Fortisu series of G. Skill ram? Can't find one explanation of the differences other then value, and they're both supposively made for Ryzen.

Posting this because PC Part Picker is either out of the loop or doesn't factor this in.

The base R5 1600 is cheaper on Newegg for $200 flat until the 13th with a promo code, no tax, and free shipping.
SuperBiiz lists theirs as $200 flat, no tax, then suddenly $15 cheapest UPS shipping so $215. I managed to bring it down $10 with promo code BARBEQUE.

If you want to save $10-15 don't listen to PC Part Picker, at least for the 1600.

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>>61293675

And after my overclock, with new RAM.

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> Gaymen at 1080p 144hz
> Ordered a 1080ti at 585 Great British Quids
> GTX 1080 is 550 Quids..

D-Did I do good /g/

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>>61293675
install gentoo

>>61293571
You would get 75% more computing power. Theoretically that should be worth $250.

>>61292982
Sure, but I think that'll be at SATA III speeds vs the 2500 mb/s

You're most likely not gona notice the speed bump, is what folks are saying though.

>>61293714

where do you get 75% from? and i'm not talking about pure calculation ability, i'm talking about quantitative information for a ryzen chip when used for streaming

>>61293703
Bloody good deal, mate!

I currently have a 6600k on a gigabyte z170mx

Should I
A) 7700k
B) Ryzen + new MB
C) Just Wait™ for covfefe lake and hope for the unlikely compatibility between it an z170

>>61293806
More cores = More threads = more transcoding

>>61293870

no proof = no belief = wtf mate

i get the argument, but there's no evidence to back up the claim

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>>61293870
we've been through this before years ago

NZXT s340 or Phanteks ECLIPSE P400??

Any one with a OCed 1600 on a stock cooler? How does it OC?

>>61293882
It just works

>>61287128
>NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs.

I use one as a boot drive and its faster.
that quote is stupid, you're saying that for no reason at all nvme drives are intended for all other intended use cases of SSD's except boot drives. They make great boot drives, I actually turn my computer off all the time now because booting it up takes just a few seconds. sleep mode is for wincucks, turn your shit off when you leave the room boys and girls

>>61293894
Both!

Hello /g/

I'm planning to build a PC primarily for games, but I also want to do creative stuff like music, video editing, and 3D modeling as a hobby. For games, my goal is to run current 8th gen games at 1440p60. Also, emulation. I'm comfortable with going with Logical Increments' Exceptional tier (GTX 1080, i7 7700K, 8GB RAM) for about $1600. Is that a wise decision, or is that a bit overkill? I'm kinda a wage slave, but I can be frugal to save up cash. I'll probably have the funds to make the build in a few weeks time, but if it's overkill, I wouldn't mind paying less. And of course, this isn't even counting the cost for a new monitor, new KB+M, and other peripherals. For reference, my current machine is a potato by 2009 standards (Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM, Radeon 3450. Using a 900p monitor)

Side question: a friend of mine has a machine with 8GB RAM, an i5 (didn't specify which), and integrated graphics. He's not very interested in current 8th gen games, but would prefer to run older 7th gen and below games at 1080p60. I told him to get a GTX 1050 for about $110, but is that actually good advice?

Thanks in advance.

>>61287128
>Threadripper - x64 PCIe MAX
x4 are reserved for FCH, and another x4 for the M.2/NVME port. That means that it only has x56 lanes maximum for all PCIe slots.
Meanwhile...
>Core i9 - x44 PCIe PLUS an additional x24 from the PCH
That's a total of x68 PCIe lanes that can be used on the X299 platform. Last I checked, 68 is larger than 56 and 64.

So why is everyone fawning over X399 again?

>>61293911
>it's just based on unsubstantiated claims

>>61293914
My cheap sata m.2 boots in 15 seconds. What about yours

>>61293971
The FCH can also be another pcie switch, retard.

>>61293971
>So why is everyone fawning over X399 again?
OC

>>61293960
He should get a 1060

>>61294001
No it can't. The FCH is limited to just 4 lanes so that they don't need a PCIe switch like Intel uses.

>>61294003
>OC
kek, Ryzen can't even hit 4.2GHz with good voltages. Threadripper puts two of the lil niggaz together, so we're looking at a 4.0GHz max OC on these CPUs. Skylake-X can hit 4.6GHz AND it has higher IPC.

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>>61294029
epic

Just how shitty are Wifi range extenders for getting a decent Ethernet connection when your router is a ways away

>>61293977
The gap is even wider when you start virtualizing.

>>61294051
These exist, you know
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007998%20600035572

>>61294070
Oh please prove it with some streaming comparisons.

>>61294060
You'll be capped at 100mb/s unless you're willing to shell out for enterprise hardware.

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Would I see a decent upgrade in performance going from my i5 6500 to a 7700k? I have a gtx 1080 and feel like the 6500 is already bottlenecking it. Plus, I've got the overclocking bug and have a locked cpu

>>61294092
AMD has always been the best at x264 encoding because cores

>>61294131
Save up some money for an X299 motherboard and an i7-7740K. That way, you can upgrade to an HEDT i9 CPU later on rather than being stuck on the mainstream socket.

>>61294110
So besides that it's a stable enough connection to be 'worth it?'

>>61293955
anon..

>>61294183
Depends on many devices will be using it and to what extent

>>61293366
>Are there any AM4 boards that are 100% confirmed to support ECC unbuffered DIMMs?
>Or wait for Ryzen 5 1500 Pro and an ECC-capable AM4 board?

Same situation here. I want to upgrade but it's hard to find reliable information.


>Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming K7
>Gigabyte GA-AX370-GAMING 5
>ASRock X370 Taichi
Expensive AM4 boards with ECC support.

https://www.nas4free.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12186
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/75030-ecc-memory-amds-ryzen-deep-dive.html

>>61293659
>On Ryzen motherboards the ram can't run at the maxed rated clock

But that's horse shit. You just need to buy the right kits, namely Samsung B-die ones.

>>61294362
mostly kits that are > 3000mhz are the ones that are not running stable. I've read what you said about that samsung b-die dimms are the ones to get

>>61293903
People seem to be getting 3.8-3.9 with the stock cooler.

>>61294415
Thanks. I'm asking because I saw people talking about how stock cooler 1600s could barely hit 3.6Ghz OCed. Has me worried.

>>61293903
>>61294415
>>61294441
I concur with this. 3.8 is pretty solid, I'd say 3.9 is pushing it though. Possible but it'll be running hot.

Does Intel make a wifi + NIC card in one that is PCIe X1?

Any good and nice looking micro atx cases out there? Also one that can fit a 1070? Or should I just go mid size?

>>61288322
My 1060 has DVI

>>61290816
Sell it locally either as a working system or as parts. Craiglist works and there are some apps that can do this as well

>>61294174
This is retarded advice from a paid Intel shill

>>61294588
Is it DVI-I though, or DVI-D?

>>61293960
7700K is a stupid buy for most situations, for your budget and use you should look at a Ryzen 7 1700 build with 16GB RAM. Logical Increments seems to giving awful advice at the moment.

I'm not the biggest computer guy when it comes to hardware, but I am when it comes to software and I'm willing to learn more about computer hardware.

The most I'd go is somewhere in the $1000-$1500 range, ideally lower.

My biggest needs are good audio, low lag display/low enough lag to not severely mess up my inputs, and something that can run Dota at a consistent 60+fps on at least medium settings.

I don't have a build yet, but I want a mix of good price with good quality. Ideally not something too expensive and something that does the previously mentioned.

Also my Acer Aspire E5 won't load Windows, so I'm looking towards building a PC.

>>61293703
Link me, anon.

That's a fucking good deal depending if it ain't a fucking blower style one.

Who else is hoping prime day will have some good deals on gpus? It's my only hope I think.

>>61294954
how can you have a deal on something that doesn't exist! they're all gone homie

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r8 pls

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TGwyzM

Primary focus is for gaming, but I also do a lot of coding, video editing, image editing, ect.

I have a 3570K now and do not have any issues with multi-tasking or using other software so I was thinking I would just go with the i7 over Ryzen.

How is the motherboard? I spent the better part of today researching different boards and settled for the ASUS Maximus IX Hero

Opinions?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WjKKm8

After hours of searching, found a shop that sells the 1050 TI 4GB for $200.

>>61295093
Spend a few extra dollars and get the 2TB ssd for $500

>>61293894
I'm stuck on this question too; the NZXT is technically cheaper by $10 due to being able to be picked up and not needing delivery but...the Phantek is so sexy

>>61295138
>1050 for $200
Nocoiners on suicide watch

>>61295093
If you do video editing and you're not getting a Ryzen you are shooting yourself in the foot

>>61295182

Who does video editing? You're not going to become a YouTube star, hate to break it to you.

Get a real job and use your PC for gaming in your free time.

>>61295182 >>61295093
Heres a better breakdown of what I plan on using the system for.

45% gaming.
25% coding.
15% video/image editing.
15% general use.

anyone here ever had the urge to make a mini sized build?
something like 1050ti, with a closed loop cooled i5, PCI/m2 SSD only, nothing else
i.e. something that will suit everyday use fine (cpu bound games only), in a factor that will pretty much let you carry it around as you please

anyone regret doing something like that?

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>>61287128
Laugh at my suffering

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>Inb4 phone poster
How else am I gonna upload this pic fagget

>>61295344
Watercooled ITX would be neat

>>61295174
Pretty much. Fucking bullshit. If only my 660 Ti didn't burst into flames yesterday, I would have waited.

>>61294676
The Ryzen 7 1700 is only marginally cheaper than the i7 7700K. How much of a performance difference is it? I know Ryzen is supposed to be better for multithreaded performance than Intel, But isn't it worse for games?

And yeah, I was considering getting 16GB of RAM. Hasn't RAM seen a spike in price over the past year? Why is that? Is it related to the GPU price spikes from cryptocurrency mining?

>>61295266
If you don't do anything but gaming on your PC that's your business. Other people have different needs.

>>61295276
Ryzen 7 all day: faster compiling, faster video encoding, faster image processing, better general use, same game performance as a 7700k but usually with higher minimums and no stuttering.

Unless you need higher single threaded performance (maybe 15% at most) AND you are willing to lose around 50-70% multithreaded performance you should not go with a 7700k. The other niche is if your compiler toolchain is only available for Intel then you're kind of stuck with them.

>>61295437
>>61295402
Who'd you kill anon?

>>61295486
Huge multithreaded performance boost, around 50% on average.

Gaming performance is nearly identical to the 7700k except when you're in CPU bound situations where the 7700k can pull away by 10-15%. One thing almost all the benchmarks and charts fail to mention is that Ryzen and Intel 8-core+ systems have far less stuttering and better minimums in most games even if the averages are slightly lower.

RAM being pricey has no relation to cryptocurrencies, it has to do with overall shortages related to increased demand for DDR4 for phones and embedded devices.

Should I get more air coolers for my new rig or should i just stick with the one that came with my 15 7400? I'm not really going to overclock but i just want to know. I'm new with PC building

>>61295564
I meant i5, not 15. Sorry

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>>61295402
>>61295437

>>61295564
Intel stock cooler are usually terrible. Unless you have a very small case that wont fit a decent cooler then you should give it a try.

>>61287273
If you have workloads that are able to use it.
Not as desktop, it works extremely poorly for that - low clocks, NUMA, and so on. Power consumption.
BIOSes of those boards aren't very well prepared for desktop use either.

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>>61295402
>>61295437
Sorry you fell for the custom loop meme, anon.

>>61287128
>8400gs
nothing of value was lost

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>>61290413
Take components out of the case and check like that. Rules out motherboard shorting against the case or like that. Put it on wooden table, never on carpet. And take precautions against static discharge.

>>61287593
>not waiting for ryzen3

Apparently better than my current machine. Mostly web browsing. Light gaming.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bcDktJ

I'm going to watercool my ncase. Pretty small case, so what are good slim radiator fans?

>>61295627
It's a CM K350 ATX. I don't really know if i can't fit something there. Sorry if I sound retarded, i'm too new.

>>61290413
Did you flip the switch on the PSU?

>>61295707
Looks fine to me, though I would wait for Ryzen 3 to see if it would be a better deal. Hopefully they'll be sub-$100

>>61295437
>>61295402
What did you do so I dont do it

>>61287128
I'm trying to build a librebooted system. I'm going to get the Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L motherboard this board would fit a core 2 quad Q660 but I'm not sure if it would be compatible with libreboot. Has anyone tried this?

>>61295639
>>61295437
Won the pc in a giveaway, my Temps were at 60 idle and I notice the water block was loose. Tried fixing it and ofc this happens

>>61295763
Ouch, did you hose all the components too?

>>61295751
Took it out and I didn't want to waste the coolant so I tried keeping it as one unit. It didn't have enough support an fell apart

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>>61295783

>>61295778
No, most the important stuff was on the other side of the room. Power supply, graphics card, ram. Some of the important wires got wet on the plug part but imma try to dry them so I don't have to waste more money on pc gaming

>>61295783
Yeah that doesn't really work on rigid tubing.

>>61295747
They'll probably be at 120 and 140 based on current Ryzen pricing. If they come out soon then I'll for them but if not I'll probably stick with this.

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Who /g/hetto PC here?

I just drilled holes under my pre-built's case and I'm having a hard time taking out the sheets that are jutting out. Any tips on how I should proceed? Just pliers?

>>61295915
Coarse-grain sand paper with thick gloves. Move in circular motions and applying minimal pressure to prevent the holes from getting distorted.

Got an amd a10-6790k should i get a 1050ti or an older card

>>61287128
>Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
I'm sorry to say but this isn't really going to help.
Mining will always be profitable with GPU's, so until they kick up production you just have to get them quick or bite the bullet.

>>61295983
1050ti will be fine. Currently running one with a8-6600k.

>>61295981
Wow. There's a type of sandpaper for metal? Will ask my local hardware store. Thanks, anon.

>>61295915
You have to buff it out with a file or sander. Be sure to wear a mask so you don't get corprus.

>>61296126
>corprus

kek

i acquired a B250i gaming pro ac board for a G4560, whats the speed of ram thats best?
i feel like anything higher than 2666 is kinda unnecessary but want to double check.

>>61296104
Don't be a dumbass. You can use Aluminum oxide or Zirconia alumina for hand sanding metal

Looks like that board only supports 2133 and 2400

>>61296254
about that, if thats the case why do they sell ram thats almost 4 fucking ghz?

>>61290596
goodluck finding one mate

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>>61296213
>>61296126
Thanks, anons. I just wanted to mount my fan as I bought the wrong size.

I thought this was gonna be easy.

>>61296345
ITX boards often skip on it because it's expensive to cram all that tech on all there.

>>61294131
night and day difference

>>61287957
welcome to 2017. now get a new monitor.

So here's my problem right now, /pcbg/.

I am currently saving up to build a new PC, and I have to rush the process as much as I can due to my laptop slowing down and being unable to do multiple tasks at once.

I am going to be primarily using the laptop for playing LoL, OW, and MAYBE BDO/GTAV. I also want the laptop to be able to emulate PS2/GC at a smooth framerate and to be able to stream.

I am going to have a 1920x1080 144Hz monitor, and I was going to spring for the GTX 1070 before the neckbeard cryptocurrency miners spiked the price of it. Should I still spring for the 1070 or would I be able to do just fine with a less expensive GPU? Let me know if you need more information and I'll provide it. This is my first time building a PC.

>>61295555
Thanks for the info.

So, I went to PC Part Picker, and made two builds. Both primarily based on the exceptional tier on Logical Increments. Primary difference between the two is one's a i7 7700K, and the other is a R7 1700. And I also did slight variations from Logical Increments (5TB HDD instead of 2, added an optical disc drive for shits and giggles, etc).

The price difference is negligible between the two builds. Like, it's only a difference of less than $10. I feel like even though the R7 1700 is cheaper than the i7 7700K, it's actually offset by the price of the motherboard. The Ryzen compatible motherboard is more expensive than the equivalent Intel compatible one.

Anything I can improve on? Any glaring flaws?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4zmmcc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nymmcc

How does pcbg back up their data? I've always just used cheap external hard drives.
Are there externals that are particularly reliable?
Would getting an hdd dock and a few internal drives or hot swap be a more reliable option?

>>61296787
You are going to need a 1070 for 1080p 144hz. Or you could wait till the end of the month and see how Vega does since it is reportedly between 1070 and 1080 performance.

Lads, I'm tryna buy a 1440p monitor for my first gaming rig, and I keep on reading horror stories about dead pixels and black light bleeding. Initially I'm willing to spend $100-$300 for this monitor, but when I come across ones I think are good, I often read mixed reiviews with them as well. I should also mention I have a GTX 1070
Here's the two I've narrowed my search yet so far on:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4JH1U38315&cm_re=1440p_monitor-_-9SIA4JH1U38315-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009969&cm_re=1440p_monitor-_-24-009-969-_-Product

>>61297174
All methods are fine so long as you airgap them and keep them safe. How you do it is up to convenience.

>>61297211
IMO Newegg has a shitty return policy so I tend to buy from Amazon or anywhere else that I can return things like monitors if they are fucked up without a goddamn restocking fee.

>>61297215
>All methods are fine so long as you airgap them and keep them safe.
Airgap them?

>>61297240
Don't keep them connect to your main PC or at least unprotect least you get ransomware and your PC gets locked along with your backups.

>>61297211
When it comes to high RMA lottery shit I just go down to the store to buy them. Sure I pay slightly more but any dead pixels and BLB and I get to exchange my monitor on the spot.

>>61297198
Ok. Which website is best for purchasing a 1070 at the moment? I have a Prime membership so I've wishlisted all my parts on Amazon, but the 1070 is 600 on there and I was wondering if I could get it for cheaper.

>>61297095
One thing to note is that Ryzen is fairly picky about RAM right now so make sure the RAM you chose is on the QVL for the mobo you chose.

The BQ coolers are nice but they are a supreme pain in the ass to install because of the way you screw down the heatsink. I don't know why they use that system but it is what it is. You could look at the TR Le grand macho as an alternative though it doesn't look as nice.

860W is overkill you can step down to 650W and be fine. The EVGA G3 is a good choice there.

>>61297301
Check PCpartspicker

>>61297095
I would not recommend the CM HAF X, it's an old case with some shitty design decisions in it. Look at some newer stuff from NZXT, Corsair, Phateks, etc. and you'll find some much better cases IMO

>>61290816
>>61290939
Just dump it on the side of the road, that's what I do.

>>61297441
This, but while it's raining.

>>61297441
What a waste. I turn them into functioning servers. I have 2 old builds. One acts as my NAS and the other I use to torrent shit with.

What's the minimum GPU to pair with a R5 1600 to be able to play newer AAA games on at least medium settings while getting 40-60 FPS? Need a new computer mainly for web browsing and watching streams but want still be able to do light gaming until I upgrade later.

>>61297489
1050ti

>>61297320
I got an MSI B350 Gaming Plus and 2x4GB (CMK8GX4M2B3000C15)

How fucked am I? It's not explicitly on the QVL but some kinda similar ones are.

>>61297275
Cool, was planning to do this anyways. Guessing I'd need to keep them in anti static bags?

>>61297541
Worst case it won't POST, second worst it will not run at 3000Mhz, best case everything works fine.

No way to know until you try it out.

>>61297546
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_(networking)

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Why is every computer case shit? I can't find any good mATX cases. Anyone got recommendations?

>good looking
>good layout
>reasonable size
>good features/compatability

pick two basically
>mfw

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The hell is this mouth supposed to be?

Does it make my parts faster?

>>61297798
Yes

>>61295116
Tip: if the system is gonna be powered on 24/7, I'll recommend a i3 7100/6100t and a better certified power supply to cut down on power bill costs.

>>61297320
>>61297359
Again, thank you much for the feedback.
So I replaced the PSU with a 650W, and changed the case.

These builds are still about $200 over my expected budget. But going over budget is fine. I got a few extras like the aforementioned optical drive, more RAM, bigger HDD, better HSF, etc.

Anything else I can improve on?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NcxxM8
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwYR3F

>>61297846
Any reason you need a full tower vs a mid one?

At what point would a Mac be a better value?

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Does anybody have any advice for a computer to be used for daytrading?
My budget is <$1000, preferably with options to upgrade later if needed rather than now.

I have no real regard for gaming performance or anything of the sort, however I need at least 2-3 1080p monitors and about 7 different charts going at once, at least.
So I'd need a good GPU anyways, correct? Would it be good to get one with good memory (4GB+) vs a better, but smaller memory card?

Should I get a R5 1600 or the like, or is multi-threaded worthless for my use and I should get an i7 or the like?

Is there any advantage or disadvantage to a full size case such as the Enthoo pro vs something like the meme-tier Fractal Design Define mini C?
Would it simply be potentially 2 GPU's vs 1GPU?
Would cooling be a concern if I had 2 GPU's?

Any advice would be appreciated, as I'm literally on a 1.2GH/s labtop that even stalls running linux and having just this tab open. I need out of this madness and start making up these lost-opportunities when my computer lags during a trade.

>>61297875
No particular reason. I just figured I'd have more drive bays and space if I needed to upgrade or add shit in the future. Should I just get a mid tower instead?

>>61297923
When you decide one day to be a female(male).

>>61297931
Having a full tower is neat and all but you said you are over budget. Getting a mid tower over a full one will easily shave 100 dollars off the total cost but if you are planning to upgrade then get a full tower.

What monitor would best utilize this build without breaking my bank?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Liamc117/saved/8CtGXL

>>61297925
Don't need a good GPU, you just need a GPU with enough outputs. A strong CPU and a lot of RAM since you are going to have multiple programs open and multiple tabs in your browser.

Do need to be concerned about casing unless fan noise distracts you while you are trading.

>>61297948
Any preference? 1080p? 144hz?
1070 would be nice with 1440p60.

>>61297925
I'm not a day trader, but do you actually need 2-3 monitors?

Is physically looking at another monitor faster than switching workspaces with hotkeys
?

>>61297982
Professional day traders have 6 monitors they constantly look at.

>>61297977
Definitely 1440p 144hz would be nice but isn't life or death for me

>>61298005
1440p144hz monitors are going to break the bank. They will cost as much as your GPU or more unless you go for cheap Korean brands.

>>61297923
The upcoming iMac Pro, ironically enough.

Yeah, it's prohibitively expensive, but the hardware is actually priced similarly to what you'd pay if you built something with equivalent specs.

>>61298037
then 60hz is fine with me.

>>61298056
Are you okay with Korean brands? If yes, then take a look with QNIX.

>>61297977
>A strong CPU and a lot of RAM since you are going to have multiple programs open and multiple tabs in your browser.
Okay, any idea if single threaded would be better to prioritize?
Sounds like I should bump up to an i7 if so.

Looks like I'll need 2 GPU's most likely then, but I can get some sub-par ones I suppose.
I'll definitely need a full-size case then, right? Fan noise doesn't bother me.

>>61297982
They problem is without at least a couple you won't be able to look at more than one or two markets/stocks/trades/commodities/etc.
If one crashes or begins to drop you can set your screen or the window to flash red if you want.

If you can only see 2 charts, but are trading 7, or even 4 or 5, if one drops or something happens, you won't see it as clearly.
On top of that it'd be annoying going back and forth dozens of time in a day, if not hundreds.

If you day-trade cryptos or FOREX/currencies a lot are open 24/5 (or 24/7) which means you may prefer to have a screen to transfer funds or do something else while still being able to see the market, trends, if something drops, etc.

>>61298076
Yep. Do you have any models that you suggest? Im terrified of getting one with dead pixels and terrible backlighting

>>61298090
The reason why Korean monitors are so cheap are because of dead pixels and BLB.
So basically

>No BLB deadpixel
>Cheap
>1440p monitors
Pick 2

>>61298088
>Okay, any idea if single threaded would be better to prioritize?
You should know this better than us because you know what programs you run. We don't.

>Looks like I'll need 2 GPU's most likely then, but I can get some sub-par ones I suppose.
You only need them for output display. It is not like you are running anything GPU intensity. Again you should know your programs better than we do.

>I'll definitely need a full-size case then, right? Fan noise doesn't bother me.
No. You need a ATX mobo over another mobos. Full tower or mid tower is your choice.

Here's my current build, should I upgrade? Give me some recommendations /g/ents

i5 2500k
GTX 760
8Gb gb ram
some gigabyte mobo I forget what it is specifically
1tb samsung hd

>>61298166
That build should be still fine for 1080p60 @ lower settings. You could upgrade but do you want to?