/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>61299006
Samefag here.

How much of a difference is there in emulator performance between the 7700K and the R7 1700? Is there relative parity between the two when running, say, Dolphin, RPCS3, PCSX2, or Cemu?

>>61299172
>>>/vg/182148526
>>>/vg/emugen

>>61299172
Depends on the emulator. I would say 7700k still is heavily favored because most emulators are hobby projects and thus heavily single threaded.

>>61299194
Why would anyone play Dark Souls on an emulator when there is an actual PC port?

>>61299249
Oh nvm it's Demon's Souls not Dark Souls, my bad...

Fan recs? I haven't shopped for fans in almost a decade. Just need a few quiet fans.

Looking for a 144hz monitor to use with my 1060. Not really eager to pay the gsync tax, and I'll probably go amd for my next card.
Narrowed my selections to the AOC G2460PF or Viewsonic XG2401. Will I be fine with either of these or should I look into something else?

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need mATX case recommendations

>small(ish) nothing ATX sized
>A E S T H E T I C
>decent amount of (preferably visible) 3.5" HDD bays

>>61299280
Fans with blue leds run the coolest

>>61299294

Vintage meme.

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>/vgcag/
>Video Game Console Assembly General

>>61299031
I'm correct in thinking that all the Ryzen 7 chips are basically identical except for binning, right? I want a 1700 but a friend is telling me to get the 1700X. I plan on OCing as close to 4.0GHz as it'll go.

Thanks in advance.

>>61299194
>>61299197
Okay, thanks. So it looks like Ryzen is a little worse for emulation, but for all my other use cases, it's a little better. I'll probably end up going for the Ryzen build over the Intel build.

Thanks /g/! You guys are great!

>>61299326
Binning and stock fans

>>61299172
Dolphin is nominal, RPCS3 does quite well because it can scale with cores, PCSX2 is poorly optimized even on a i5/i7 so not sure there, Cemu is nominal

>>61299327
Keep in mind RPCS3 is very much a work in progress with two primary developers on a shoestring hobby-time budget.
Consider the month over month improvements, then pray.

>>61299327
Really it's basically the same for gaming at 1440p and significantly better than the 7700k for everything else. It's akin to the 8-core Intel CPUs like the 5960X which costs over twice as much.

>>61299390
>Really it's basically the same for gaming at 1440p
If you are not going for 144hz. Sure. There is a reason why it is still on the OP.

>>61299404
No at 1440p it does not make a difference even with a 1080 Ti.

>>61299404
It's in the OP because someone put it there, no other reason required.

>>61299433
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508

>>61299471
Thanks that article just proves my point. There was another one with a 1080 Ti with similar results.

>>61299331
cool, good to know. Thanks man.

Best gayman motherboard for a 1700? I'm looking at MSI X370 Gaming Pro, any reason to go for a pricier option?

>>61299521
You don't need a gaming motherboard.
Why the fuck do you need a gaming board?
Have you seen any benchmarks for FPS for motherboards?

>>61299535
It's a good idea to state the purpose of my build when asking a question, no? Gaming Pro is just one of MSI boards I was looking at, it doesn't even have any LEDs (Pro Carbon does, though). It's also one of the cheaper X370 boards I could find.

Why is the 1050 Ti so based?

>>61299604
Cause the 580 is out of stock

>>61299172
I have a 1600. I haven't tried CEMU, but I can play Mario Kart (my wife likes it) at 4k with zero slowdowns, maxed AA, etc. no problems. With PCSX2 I notice just as many slow downs on my 1600 w/ a 1050ti during Ratchet and Clank running at ~4k resolution as I do with it running at a native resolution, and I see just as many slowdowns on my i7 6500U laptop, so I think at this point PCSX2 is more limited by it's architecture than anything.

Just bought a new ASUS RX580-T8G on eBay for $500AUD.

Who makes the best IPS panels these days? Considering grabbing a 24" - 27" for development work.

>>61299777
ASUS, BENQ, ACER or DELL

Okay, so how does this look:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fsdG4C

Purpose: playing video games. Location: Russia, so the prices are going to be a bit higher. Mainly looking for: eliminating obviously stupid choices, things that just won't work.

GPU is an old one my friend is going to lend me until the mining craze subsides, so it can't be replaced... for now.

No PSU because I have no idea what do I need. 650W should be enough with some headroom, right?

>>61299907
Oh and the memory I actually chose in the shop is labeled as 3000MHz, but there's no such option in the parts picker. It's labeled as compatible on the MSI site, though.

>>61299907
Why not buy a 1080? Mining hasn't changed its price very much

>>61299907
>Purpose: playing video games.
>Location: Russia

Budget?

Also, buy a mail bride.

>>61299984
Its not a mail bride when you don't have to mail it.

>>61299977
Pretty sure it did in Russia. Founder's Edition costs over a hundred dollars. ASUS ones are like $1300+ or so. There's a site where you can order from Germany for more sane prcies, but they've been showing "out of stock" for weeks. Shipping from amazon is too pricey. Sites that claim to buy from amazon and ship through their own means are too sketchy.

>>61299984
Video games are a good way of escaping the clutches of harsh reality.
>budget
Well sort of what I have already on the list + roughly 10% I guess. I'd rather not go too much overboard.

>>61299999
One for $497 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B01GJEE9BG?ref_=mw_dp_olp&condition=all&pldnSite=1

>>61300014
>This item does not ship to Saint-Petersburg, Russian Federation
Seriously though, I can wait with the 240 until the shitstorm subsides. I mainly want feedback on the other components. And yeah, the case is pretty expensive but it looks cool and I liked what the reviews said. Plus, it's one of those things I expect to last for long.

>>61299521
why x370 chipset?

>>61299907
If you're main focus is games you could save some rubles with the Ryzen 5 1600. If you can actually use the extra cores then stick with the 7 though.

>>61300034
That's actually a good question. B350 does look attractive as well. I just grabbed the top chipset because I know AM4 socket will last for a long time and I wanted the top MB, but I don't really see features that I want that B350 doesn't have. What would you recommend?

>>61300043
Honestly, I just think having 8 cores is really cool. I thought about downscaling but I can really afford 1700. The plan is to OC it to somewhere around 3.5-3.7 on the stock cooler, I heard people achieved good results with it.

I want a cute GPU with some cuda cores and supports vulkan for cheap. No gaming. is the 900 series pretty alright for that or should I just go for a 1030

My 2500k is making playing newer games a stuttery mess at 120hz so I've been thinking about upgrading.

Do I just wait and see how Coffee-Lake turns out or jump on Ryzen now? 7700k isn't a choice because I'm not paying for a 4-core CPU in 2017.

>>61300097
Jump to Ryzen for smoother framerates.
Watch your CPU usage go from 90-100% bottleneck territory to 50-60% while your GPU usage goes from 50-60 to 60-70.

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I need to upgrade /g/. Do I bite the bullet and go for the 1151 chipset? The would require a new mobo, cpu, and ram (all of which are needed at this point). My only other option for my current 1150 MOBO would be what, a i7 4970k? As far as I'm aware, the 1150s will be phased out for the newer gen, and I may as well make my computer future proof now by upgrading to current/future chipsets. I've only recieved one response and it's to get a Ryzen, is AMD really my best option or should I wait to see how Intel reacts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pCFQLk

what can I do to upgrade my old gaming build? Preferably for less than $200/$300

>>61300145
Save the money for a new build

Need some help with my final decision, planning on pulling the trigger today:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zmn9zM

Main plan is gaming @ 120hz. Main worries are currently:
Unsure about case. I was planning on the Corsair Carbide 400C but I'm open to other suggestions.

Motherboard. First time I'll be going AMD in like 10 years so I have no idea who the best vendor to go with these days.

Fuck miners.

>>61300158
All vendors are fine except Asscock.
The popular cases nowadays is the P400s and S340. Can't go wrong with them but the 400C is good too.

>>61300157
So just start from scratch? Is it really more cost effective to just start completely over?

>>61300195
PSU is fine if you are going low-end.
HDD is fine.
Case is fine.
Scrap the CPU, RAM, Mobo and GPU. Unless you are okay with your current GPU.

Hey, guys. What would you recommend for a architecture student? I need my PC to work in 3dmax and AutoCAD.

>>61300176
My problem with cases these days is the front intake is always obscured and the NZXT cases seem to leave very little room for front intake. The room my PC will be in gets very hot so I need good air flow for sure. The 400C seems to have bigger vents on the front for intake which is why I went with it but there's like 2 fans in the thing so I'll have to buy more.

>>61300064
>>61300034
OK so apparently X370 has more PCI lanes, 8 vs. 6. That's not important, right?

Also, any recommendations on the PSU? Good PSU vendors? Good wattage? Anything?

>>61300214
We are here to advice you. You need to research a little and make your own build/budget. We don't like spoonfeeding, there are plenty of sites that spoonfeed you premade builts i.e. logical increments.

>>61300217
You can leave the front intake completely open during heavy load.

>>61300224
>That's not important, right?
It is if you want need more PCI stuff on your mobo.

>Also, any recommendations on the PSU?
High end corsair, EVGA, Seasonic

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I overclocked my 4690k to 4.2. Why does it say 5?

>>61300258
PCI is GPUs, SSDs, what else? Does memory use those lanes?
>EVGA
Right, people praised that. What about watts, 650 is enough, considering I'm not going to sit forever with R7 240 and will OC a bit?

>>61300286
Sound cards. Network cards. SLI/X-fire. Capture cards. TV tuner cards. Etc.

650w is more than enough for any single GPU build unless you are stupid enough to buy cards like FE or FuryX.

>>61300286
>PCI is GPUs, SSDs, what else? Does memory use those lanes?
ram doesn't use them but yes, gpus do. some storage types use them but they are mostly for gpus and extension cards, like networking, wireless (wifi/bluetooth), and raid cards

>what about watts
put a pc together with pcpartpicker and it will tell you the estimated wattage. 500-700 is usually good enough for most but I got an 850 because it was 5 dollars more than the 500 model I was looking at

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>>61300271
Glitch with Microsoft. Check this out.

>>61300145
>Preferably for less than $200/$300
Grab a Ryzen (hex-core or better) CPU/RAM/mobo deal and move everything else over. Start saving again and grab a GPU when prices return to sanity.

>>61300316
I was planning on either buying a 1080 (possibly even Ti) when the time is right or maybe even waiting for Volta.

>>61300318
Oh yes, those cards. I see. Yeah, seems like B350 is enough, no need to go for X370. That'll save some cash.
> it will tell you the estimated wattage
Well, it says 209, so I guess I'll go for 650 or so.

>>61300224
>That's not important, right
It completely depends. Those PCI-E lanes are literally the reason to buy X370 over B350. If you need dual GPUs, X370 (although if you're serious you may want to wait for threadripper because X370 will only do eight lanes each). If you need m.2 NVME storage and bothPCI-E x16 slots, X370. If you need more than six total SATA drives, X370. Otherwise, B350.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g6GnvV

This is my build so far. It seems so much harder now that I actually know shit about building. What could be improved?

Reusing PSU, GPU, and a few drives so I don't need them. The main focus for the computer is video editing, editing photographs and using GIMP, making music, occasionally gaming. I'm on Linux if that makes any difference.

Here are the questions:
1) Is this ram actually worth it? Also not sure if it's actually samsung b die or not but for the price I think it probably is
2) I want to edit videos and run Ableton Live and wonder if 16 GB would be enough or should I just give up my shekels and go for 32?
3) I have a Define R4 right now and could probably save some money instead of getting the case. I want a smaller one with decent drive space, is there really a better option than this?

>>61300347
No, no, no. Yeah, cool, B350 it is. See, that's the kind of stuff I posted the build for. Thanks!

>>61300357
>Is this ram actually worth it?
check the mobo manufacturer's qvl list for ram and check to see if it's actually on there first or you're gonna fuck yourself out of 300 plus burgers

like the discussion in the thread, do you really need x370 or would b350 be sufficient

Oh, right - one more thing I wanted to ask, Samsung EVO 960 250Gb, it's one of the cheapest m.2 SSDs available for me, Tom's Hardware trashed it but other reviews I've seen are good, anybody here has it? How's it?

>>61299172
RPCS3 runs quite a bit better thanks to more cores
CEMU runs worse, but nearly everything runs without slowdowns anyway
Dolphin runs perfectly fine
PCSX2 also runs fine

>>61299777
I like my Dell
Really nice colors and runs at 72Hz just fine

>>61300271
Thats just a bug

>>61300401
>check the mobo manufacturer's qvl list for ram and check to see if it's actually on there first or you're gonna fuck yourself out of 300 plus burgers
That's probably a damn good idea honestly. I'll do that right now.

>do you really need x370 or would b350 be sufficient
to be honest, they don't really make a difference to me. I'll only be using a single GPU so I'm not worried about the x16 lanes. I like this board for a few autistic reasons: has wifi and bluetooth built in, has TWO, FUCKING TWO PS2 ports, two m.2 slots and a few PCIE slots for extra peripherals that i might add.

>>61300434
>has wifi and bluetooth built in
i would actually see this as a downside, as the case would act as an inhibitor
plus direct wired connection is the easiest/best way to go, even if you need to buy a separate router just to bridge them

corsair h60 for watercooling?

>>61300468
Such motherboards normally come with an antenna you screw into the port and then put somewhere else instead of being inside the case.

>>61300468
I'm always hooked up through LAN. All my computers have been and it'll probably stay that way. But the MB does come with external antenna that connect through the I/O pannel.

However if I ever travel and can't find a plug, at least I know i'll be covered. I mostly want the bluetooth connectivity to transfer stuff to my phone. Also the whole wireless module works through an m.2 slot so you can take it out if you don't want the functionality or risk.

can someone recommend me a decent, cheap gpu to sit in on my build until the prices of mid range cards cool down?
just has to be better than a Radeon HD 7800
but at most $100 since its just temporary (I think, the miners will leave soon, wont they?)

>>61300514
Go look up 2nd hand GPUs, that is your best bet.

>>61300505
>Also the whole wireless module works through an m.2 slot so you can take it out if you don't want the functionality or risk.
man that's pretty sick forget what I said, get that shit

>>61300357
Looks solid to me

>>61299777
Also a big fan of my Dell. Decent factory calibration, panel OC's to 72-75Hz, good stand/build quality.

>>61300404
I don't have it, but having looked into it quite a bit previously the only reason Tom's Hardware trashed it is on price/perf, and the fact that in terms of write performance it is basically a different SSD to the 1TB model. If you don't care about workstation/server heavy random write workloads, and it's cheap where you are, I'd go for it.

>>61300357
That Asrock board isn't actually an 8+4 phase VRM
Its a 4+2 with more components

>>61300586
I'm sorry, I'm retarded. What does that mean?

>>61300582
Okay, thanks. They praised some MyDigitalSSD model, which is a really cute name, but sadly is not available where I live.

Trying to find a good PCIE wifi adapter that has 5 Ghz and bluetooth
willing to sacrifice bluetooth but I want that 5Ghz and im a poorfag with like 40$

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Daytrader guy here again from last thread.
I made my build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQzpsJ

See any problems, or do you think I over-did one thing or another?
A question regarding GPU's.
I currently only have one DVI monitor, while both accept VGA.
The GPU has HDMI and DVI, but no VGA's.
I've heard that the motherboard DVI/VGA slots are disabled when you put in a graphics card, is this always true, or is it untrue?
Essentially, can I skimp and get one GPU, or would it have any problematic effects throwing in a super-garbage $15 leftover GPU that has a VGA input?

Also, is there any benefit to a Micro ATX vs a regular ATX mob if both fit in the case and have the same ram?
There'd be no reason to get the micro if they have the same slots (2GPU, 4ram, etc), correct?

>>61300604
Worse power delivery than an actual 8+4 phase design
But it should be perfectly fine, even if you're running overclocked to 4Ghz

>>61300357
The RAM price gouging is insane at the moment. Personally I'd live with the 16GB for as long as you can, in the hopes that prices go down in future.

Gigabyte GTX 1080 for 500 dollary doos.

Should I spring for it?

>>61300633
500 dollars 1080 is almost always going to be blower fan. If you are okay with that why not?

>>61300639
Well the retail price is 650. Would it still be a blower fan?

>>61300613
>I've heard that the motherboard DVI/VGA slots are disabled when you put in a graphics card, is this always true, or is it untrue?
Always true, if your cpu has integrated graphics your gpu overrides them and forces you to use it's slots.

>Also, is there any benefit to a Micro ATX vs a regular ATX mob if both fit in the case and have the same ram?
They are both functionally the same, but a regular atx mobo might have more features than a micro atx such as more pci slots and more sata slots.

>>61300633
at least give a model and not just the manufacturer

>>61300653
Can't you look at the product listing?

>>61300654
>>61300661

Ok sorry its the GTX 1080 G1 Gaming model. Any other information thats needed?

>>61300614
Oh I see. I wasn't honestly planning on OC at the moment but I'll keep that in mind for the future to monitor how much I push the components. I'm also pairing it with a EVGA 970.

>>61300629
I'm really thinking of going that route. At the same time, it might not get better and finding another 16GB set might be more than the original. I should have gotten ready to build when pre-Ryzen.

>>61300671
Yeah why not? It is not a blower fan btw.

>>61300671
500 isn't awful but it might suck with taxes
there are often times where other models go on sale for ~450 if you wait, including b-stock of evga's ftw2 cards

>>61300654
>Always true, if your cpu has integrated graphics your gpu overrides them and forces you to use it's slots.
If I purchased a DVI -> HDMI adapter and plugged both monitors into that one GPU it would theoretically function find though, correct?

>They are both functionally the same
Huh, for $8 more I might as well get the full version then, as it's more open it'd probably give better airflow too.

>>61300726
Check if you need a passive or active adapter. I think DVI to HDMI is passive.

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I have a gtx 970 and i7 6700k
16gb ram
1tb hdd and 250gb ssd
should i upgrade anything?
or should i wait for new gpus

>>61300739
All your shit is too new to upgrade unless you have a lot of spare money to spend.

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Alright /g/aywads I caved in and bought a ryzen 5 1600 for my midrange build. I'm trying to find some good 3200 RAM sticks that will work well with the R5 1600, GTX 1070, and this micro atx mobo

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/6T7CmG/gigabyte-ga-ab350m-gaming-3-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-ab350m-gaming-3

And yes, I know
>micro ATX
>a fucking leaf
but all shitposting asides it's what I needed for my more compact case so I can take it back home to my country easily in the future. Anyway, I was thinking about the GEIL 2x8Gb sticks but they're fucking GONE. Any recommendations? What will work well with my CPU GPU mobo combo?

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>>61300744
alright

>>61300676
Yeah I went with 16GB on my X99 build, before the price spike, and I could have got 32GB for what I'd pay for another 16 now. Money was tight on it, but I'm still kicking myself.

It's all about workload to be honest, I'm not sure on Ableton, but I know that After Effects is a notorious RAM hog and you'll see significant performance improvements going from 16->32GB. But other video editing software you might get more benefit from NVMe scratch disk than more RAM.

>>61300758
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM

>>61300778
I forgot those existed. Thanks anon. Aparently a corsair stick would be optimal, among others. Are those any good?

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What's a good upgrade on my i5 4690k / 8gb PC?

16gb RAM + i7 4790k?

or just drop in 16gb and wait a while?

>>61300798
Yes

>>61300798
>Are those any good?
I don't think ive ever heard of ram being bad unless it was doa

>>61300800
just wait unless you want to play open world games faggot

>>61300824
>I don't think ive ever heard of ram being bad unless it was doa
Apparently not any RAM plays equally well with Ryzens, though?

>>61300800
Have you ever ran out of ram? If not, then don't fucking buy more ram, at those prices (literally the double of last year) and being in the limit to get a new build, it's a waste. You could try to get a really cheap i7 and sell your i5, maybe the difference isn't more than 50€.

>>61300774
Oh damn. I really don't want to be in that situation. The whole cryptomining thing is really messing things up. I guess I'll just suck it up and get the 32 GB.

I have a 970 right now and considered upgrading but the prices for any actual upgrade is way more than I'd like to spend. Then again I'm spending over $300 in RAM so...

Do people think coffelake will be much of a jump over the current i7/i9s?

>>61300851
ram not on the qvl will make ryzen systems really fucking slow but not outright be unusable

>>61300876
Cause people expect Intel to stop sandbagging themselves and to pull out all stops now.

>>61300706
That would be including taxes if it's dollarydoos.

>>61300228
Oh, ok. I'll narrow it down then. I heard there are specialized GPU for rendering. Should I look into it or am I better off with a general purpose GPU like GTX 1060?

>>61300903
Specialized GPU for rendering cost a lot more money

>>61300879
Is the QVL for the mobo only or does tye CPU have its own that needs to be matched? If it's the latter, what's the ryzen 5 1600 qvl?

>>61300915
Former

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Is there anything in here worth upgrading? I've only got 2 1080p screens, was considering maybe a 1440 screen or at least one with a higher MHz refresh rate. But from what I can tell this rig is fine to run most AAA titles for the next year or two.

>>61300903
>I heard there are specialized GPU for rendering
They exist but are extremely expensive, like 2k plus expensive

>>61300915
qvl is for mobo only

>>61300924
>>61300921
Oh thank god

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What is the smallest ITX Case that accepts a SFX PSU and is under $75?

I know some MBs include a heatsink for an m.2 SSD. Does one actually NEED a heatsink, though? Assuming normal OS workload.

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I have an S340 on the way, and lacking the foresight I noticed one huge problem.

The opening on the PCI mounts. I live in sunny, humid, bug infested (especially roaches, they find a way) Florida.
I'd rather not have to return/replace it, so what I can do about it?

>>61300892
Do you think it would be worth waiting for it to release. I was thinking of getting a R7 1700 this week.

>>61300949
keep the packaging first off
if it's amazon, you can generally get away with a 'oops ordered wrong thing' and they will just take it back
if you don't want to deal with that, there's always craigslist or hardwareswap on leddit

>>61300949
Interestingly the "Razer edition", for just $26 more including shipping or $46 with rebates, includes a mount and plate for that spot.

>>61300135
What are your needs for a new system?

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>>61300949
Check if it has it, because on the NZXT website, it shows that the case has this. (see pic)

>>61300903
You're talking about FirePros and Quadros and they're pretty much only for business purchases due to their high prices. If you can justify it as a business expense then that's fine but as a student you can't. Maybe your school can give you one or you can just use them in a lab somewhere on campus.

>>61300973
Granted, I got that pic off newegg from the same page I ordered it from (black).

Won't know for sure until it arrives, and it ships today.

>>61300224
https://rog.asus.com/articles/technologies/your-guide-to-the-ryzen-am4-platform-and-its-x370-b350-and-a320-chipsets/

Not that many feature differences really but more I/O support on X370. The other consideration is that the mobo manufacturers tend to put better VRM designs and components on the X370 boards so you will get better/more stable OCing on them.

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>>61300271
Yeah it's fucked mine is over 6 GHZ

>>61301013
My Ryzen 1700 only sits at like 2.7Ghz under load according to that
Shits fucked

>>61300998
>tend to put better VRM designs and components on the X370 boards so you will get better/more stable OCing on them
Oh, that is concerning, I should look into that further.

>>61299521
Gigabyte X370 gaming 5 is solid
A lot of USB ports, good VRM (6+(2x2)), fancy LED, decent BIOS
I like mine

>>61300998
OK, so it seems like the OC potential depends on motherboard, and it seems MSI B350 Gaming Pro is okay for that.

>>61301037
Nice, though I don't need LEDs, not because I'm vehemently against rice, but because the case I've chosen is opaque.

>>61300973
Worst case scenario, could I just throw tape or something on it?

>>61301077
I was actually gonna say that, but when I checked the NZXT website, it showed that it has it in the back.

>>61301077
Magnetic filters

>>61300949
Some black electrical tape? Not too elegant but it should work I think

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>>61301085
Can't say they make it easy to find out.

>>61301106
>There's a dedicated black page
Ignore me, but they're still retarded.

>>61299031
>GTX 1050(Ti)
is this the best card for under $200?

>>61301237
Yes

>>61301237
The RX 570 is when it's price isn't massively inflated from stock shortages

I have these options:
Asus RX480 8GB - 284$
Asus RX580 8GB - 375$

Is it worth the jump to the 580 when I'm only buying a new GPU for messing around with VR on my mobile phone. My needs are perfectly covered with a R9 270x atm

(I'm from a small town in Europe so they do have them in stock in the physical store)

>>61301302
>Asus RX580 8GB - 375$
Is that in euros? Because that is overpriced as fuck.

>>61301302
both of those are overpriced. Prices are inflated right now due to crypto miners. If you don't already have a graphics card to use in the meantime, pick up a 1050 or RX 560 and wait until prices come down to reasonable levels and miners stop depleting the stock of them within 10 minute of being restocked online.

>>61301320

No, it's converted from bulgarian currency. But I see that it's still overpriced, I think I'll just look for a used 480 for now

>>61301355
>>61301320

I meant to say these are in actual USD, thought it'd be convenient for amerifats but I ended up double posting now...

>>61300922
Bump

>>61300908
>>61300924
>>61300985
Thank you, I'll go with a standard GPU.

>searching through eBay
>all these cards for 500+
>find this
Fucking miners man
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201981184795

>>61301398
>AU
Yeah, the miners...

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This is freakin nuts, I think I got mine for $425 or something back in February.

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>>61301432

There are many Noctua fans. How do I know which ones are for which purpose?

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>>61299031
is it worth it for me to grab a 980 ti classified for 350ish? someone i know is selling his
currently have a 290

>>61301479
I just picked up some 140mm redux ones for my front intakes

>>61301506
No. Your 290 is likely to perform the same as it now since nvidia drivers are absolute shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eNVv2yhDVE

>>61301506
>>61301545
This. Plus you are going to lose that free heater in the winter.

>>61301545
i know the 290 has come a long way, and the 980 ti doesnt have as nice of drivers, but come on. i have a really hard time believing that, given that my buddy with a 970 gets the same performance as me
>>61301560
>free heat
>implying the mining rig isnt taking care of that

>>61301567
he has video proof. What more do you need? The 780ti is shit.

>>61301579
>The 780ti is shit
>Therefore the 980ti a totally different card is also shit
Stop false flagging you retard.

>>61299261
Ryzen runs emulators great, except Cemu in some cases. Any modern CPU is totally overpowered for emulating Gamecube, PS2, N64, etc. Even a newer Pentium handles those fine.
Ryzen is better, even, for PCSX3.

Unless Cemu is your concern, which frankly is a shitty emulator that I can't believe people throw so much money at, you're fine with whatever you go with.

>>61301722
>except Cemu in some cases.
which cases?

>>61299172
>>61301722
Or RPCS3 rather, not PCSX3.
But yeah, others already said it.

>>61301724
It just varies by game and Cemu is still in development. I can't give you a complete list especially since it changes as Cemu is updated.
BotW didn't seem to run great on Ryzen, dipping to like 20fps at times, last I saw over a month ago, but many other game seemed fine.

>>61301743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKyT37aNWNY

>>61301758
Yes? That does drop to the low 20s at times. Like I said.

It's short drops and playable, but not as good as it should be.

Which is retarded considering the WiiU CPU is like a 1.23GHz 3 core and I think games just use 2 cores.
But the emulator makes everything single threaded. Doesn't even use 2 cores.
Even if, for some reason, they needed to turn the dual threaded game code into single threaded to run it, they should at-fucking-least do other functions of the emulator on other threads.
But yeah. Even with it being a shitty emulator, I didn't say Ryzen was unplayable with it. If someone wants a PC that can simply play Cemu games, it'll work. But if it someone wants a dedicated emulator box to run Cemu as opposed to RPCS3, they might want to look elsewhere.

Corsair Vengeance or G.Skill Ripjaws? 8gb 3000hz Corsair is 8$ cheaper and in stock right now, while g.skill is "restock in 1-3 days".
Or can get Corsair 3200hz for 10$ higher
CPU is R5 1600, mobo is B350m

>>61301886
>mobo is B350m
that doesn't tell us anything other than it's a mATX B350 chipset board. But which board? Asrock, Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and Biostar all make mATX mobos with the B350 chipset. and each one has different compatibility with memory
Go to your motherboard manufacturers official website, find the page for your board, ngo into support, and check the QVL list of qualified memory.

>>61301858
>It's short drops and playable, but not as good as it should be.
Do you think Intel CPUs achieve constant 30 in there too? They don't

>>61301903
ASRock B350M-HDV

>>61301858
>But the emulator makes everything single threaded. Doesn't even use 2 cores.
Yeah, it uses 4 threads* total

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Ultrawide or 3 monitors

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>bought an RX580 4 weeks ago on pre-order
>$400 AUD
>it's still on pre-order

>>61301911
>>61301886
So wait, on either of websites I found that ASRock AB350M-HDV does not support any thing above 2400Mhz, but pcpartpicker claims no compatibility issues and I'm pretty sure I've seen many anons post exactly the same mobo with 3000 and 3200 g.skills.
What's going on here I'm kinda lost

Which one is better?
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST2000DM006/dp/B01IEKG402/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499684787&sr=8-1&keywords=2+tb

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Desktop-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B013QFRS2S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499684760&sr=8-1&keywords=Wd+blue+2+tb

>>61302478
The seagate is miles ahead in speed

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Is it worth buying a GTX 480 SLI setup just for the memes or will it be interesting for all of five minutes then get old?

Whats the best brand to buy ram from? I need 8 gb

Will Ryzen 3 come with integrated graphics? Afaik it will not and we'll have to wait for the APU in 2018. Does that make sense though?
According to a roadmap that seems official the non-soldered APU will come out in 2018 and is u-APU.
Will these fit in the AM4 desktop motherboards?

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>>61302653
roadmap image

>>61302659
>Desktop Bristol Ridge
Is this AMD's biggest joke? Has anyone of you ever seen a Bristol Ridge PC for sale in your local stores?

>>61302072
The company you bought it from can't probably find any cards at that price and is waiting for prices to drop so that they dont have to sell it at a loss.

>>61299031
Whats a good airflow case?
Currently got a Corsair 230t and thought it was all good but when I put an evga 1080ti sc2 into my system with a closed panel it spikes to 78 degrees while with side panel off it sits around 72 degrees under load.

Considering getting another SSD probably 850 evo 500gb, but it will run on sata 2. Still worth it?
My mobo only have 2 sata3 ports.

>>61302725
>it spikes to 78 degrees
>78C
>a spike
Who gives a shit. Unless it's above 90C just forget about it.

I have a pretty limited budget. Best R5 I can buy is 1400, which isn't much better than the fx-8350 but 50 bucks more expensive. Is there any reason I should go for the R5 1400 over the FX-8350? I'd also have to buy DDR4 RAM for the ryzen cpu. I don't game that much and am just looking to upgrade from my athlon II x2 250.

Also, my DDR3 RAM's clock speed is 531Mhz. Would there be any tangible difference from getting RAM with a higher clock speed?

>>61302733
Fan speed also goes up.
Annoying as fuck.

>>61302777
Nice trips.

>reduce fan speeds
>allow to run at 85-90C

Job done.

Alternatively, have you tried monitoring your ambient temps (GPU thermals scale linearly with ambient), then setting a static GPU fan speed of say 75%. Set your case fans as low as possible, then setting them as high as possible, and seeing if it makes any difference at all to the GPU temps? If not, a new case probably isn't going to help you at all.

How many case fans you running? Have you tried removing the drive cages? There's not much reason a case like that should run hot.

>>61299031
I have an old LGA 775 PC with HDD that still use IDE connector and I want to add a new HDD for storage (preferably 1TB). Since the new HDD would undoubtedly using SATA connector, is that okay?

Should I get a 1080 Ti right now or wait for Volta? When is consumer Volta coming anyways?

Since the Pascal GPUs are all inflated to hell should I just get a used 970 for like 200€? What's a good price for a used 970?

>>61302886
>Volta
Probably not for a while, consumer cards wont be till early next year.

The Volta xx80Ti won't be with us for 9 months minimum.

I cheaped out on most parts since money really is an issue.
I just wanna know if this PC is viable for gaming, I plan to mostly play CSGO and Overwatch, I'm not really interested in any recent games with awesome graphics.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G8kqnn

>>61302921
forgot to mention that I'm interested in the Souls games and Nier Automata and other weeb games.
I think that's all, the other games I plan to play are old ones like Fallout and TES and other RPGs.

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>>61302921
Looks fine, don't fall for the Ryzen meme for CSGO, it'll run like hot trash. Source engine is garbage and likes strong cores.

You want an i5 or i7, but the 7400 is really a rip-off, you might consider going used or something, or just buying the previous generation new. I don't know US prices so well so you'll have to look, but any i5 or i7 since Haswell will do fine.

A 1050Ti isn't really 'cheaping out', it's plenty strong, you shouldn't really have any issues at Ultra/1080p/60FPS in most games.

The PSU is a piece of shit. Get the EVGA Supernova G2, Seasonic SSR-XXXRM or Silverstone ST50F.

>>61302967
DELETE THIS

>>61302967
The CPU is fine besides the price right ? Because the price on the website won't be the one I'll pay, I'm buying all my parts from a store since I can't buy shit from internet from my country.

I was thinking of changing the PSU too but i found only positive reviews on all websites, how bad is it ?

>>61302967
Fuck's sake man you're insane

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>>61303063
>The CPU is fine besides the price right
Yeah, it's fine for what you want.

Like others will probably tell you, Ryzen is overall a better option at that price point, much better. It'll last a lot longer too as hopefully future games will use more cores. Since you're only on a 60Hz monitor, it might be fine for CSGO (cap at 120FPS and hope it never drops) but I don't really know.

All I know is I'm on an older i5 at 4.5GHz and sometimes get FPS drops from 200FPS in CSGO, Ryzen with it's weaker cores would be even worse.

>>61303065
?

WD black > red?

>>61303063
>I was thinking of changing the PSU
Didn't realise it's what you already have, it's fine, no point changing it if it's working for you. Nothing really wrong with it, just would be dumb to go out and buy one now when there's better options.

>>61303098
>ryzen is weak, it only runs this game at 300 fps!
Okay.

>>61303109
>t. never played CSGO

>>61300613
How much money do you make / day?
this is your job right?

>>61300856

in the end I got a 7700k & board

I'm selling my PS4 Pro and staying on PC now

I think I fucked up by building an i5 system 2 years ago

There was nothing WRONG with the i5 but I have a 4k panel and this i7 should last me 5 years or 3 video card generations

why does speccy show me only 3072 MB of my 11gb 1080ti?

>>61303136
1080Ti's only really have 3GB of VRAM, you didn't actually think just because it said 11GB on the box it meant it had 11GB, did you?

>>61303150
what does it mean then?

>>61303112
Fine. In future threads include it in the OP that 7700k is for csgo only, but if you want to play games in the future, get a ryzen.

>>61303136
>manufacturer's note: 11GB = 3072 MB = 478 KB = 125 B

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>>61303193
now everything makes sense.

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What are some technology memes you guys fell for?

What's the best 256GB ssd to buy?

>>61299172
Dolphin and PCSX2 run fine on a fucking Phenom II these days. I was using a 1090T for a while a few months ago (overclocked to 4GHz), and even the most demanding titles in Dolphin like The Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles ran full speed with it.

RPCS3 is also heavily-threaded and runs best on Intel HEDT/Ryzen.

How important are case fans in a high end build?
I'm going for 1440p 144hz and to reach that performance i'll have to overclock cpu and gpu, i'm sure i'd get case fans at some point, but with these gpu prices i'm trying to not spend any money i can invest in a better gpu.
Case i got is the fractal define S. Pretty roomy case and it comes with 2 installed.

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did I fuck up by buying an i7 7700k as a "future proof" (5 years) CPU?

What if the new consoles are 6 cores?

my new pc is more silent than my laptop. my last pc from years ago (and all before that one) made noise like a starting jet engine. fucking amazing.

>>61302828
Just tried doing that.
Does fuck all for my gpu temps.
So what I'm either destined to run pc with side panel open or running the gpu hot as fuck at low rpm for noise, no third option?

On a phone right now so Ican't do in depth research
but
What's the difference between i7... *-K units? Pre-overclocked? I'll easily drop the 300 usd on it if thats the case, muh 4.2 ghz

>>61303414
put your pc into the fridge

>>61303373
>did I fuck up by buying an i7 7700k as a "future proof" (5 years) CPU?
yeah, real bad. It hits 70 - 80% usage in current games, that's everything but futureproof.
>What if the new consoles are 6 cores?
even the PS3 was 8 cores, and it's 11 years old.

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>>61303327
>How important are case fans in a high end build?
Pretty irrelevant unless by 'high-end' you mean a OC'd Piledriver CPU and triple SLI GTX480's. If you're doing 1440p 144Hz I guess you're planning on something like a 1080 or 1080Ti, which with a good OC'd CPU the system should pull around 400-500W from the wall. You don't really need super amazing case fans to get rid of such a small amount of heat.

I run a 1080Ti and my load temps are near identical with my case fans at 700rpm and 1800rpm, they drop like 2C tops.

>>61303424
I'm pretty sure you can search that even ok a phone. It's also sad you can't even read the thread. K series is allowed to be overclocked, non K not. But you shouldn't because of thermal issues.

>>61303477
OK thanks

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>>61303373
Pretty much what this guy said.
>>61303450

7700K is better than Ryzen right this second (from a purely gaming perspective), but that'll probably (hopefully) change in 3-5 years. I can't see games still being as single-threaded as they are right now after a few more years.

>>61303500
>I can't see games still being as single-threaded as they are right now
Of course they won't. You can't increase the frequency much more, the power efficiency becomes really shit and temperature becomes really bad, not to say you need quite a good process to reach those better frequencies.
You can't increase IPC by much either if you don't do a new architecture, so not much more improvement there either. Granted new architectures are coming out in 2020+, but that's still 3 years of games getting more CPU intensive, and 3 years of rehashed Intel CPUs / who knows how much Zen2 and Zen3 will improve upon current Ryzen CPUs
So yeah, to move forward Intel & AMD have no better choice than upping core count, which mean CPU heavy softwares are forced to follow that trend

And it's nothing really knew. Even though i5s have been dominating the gaming market for the past 7 years easily, any game easily scale to 8+ threads without any problem and it's been the case for a long time now.

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>>61303622
>which mean CPU heavy softwares are forced to follow that trend
That's why I said hope, game developers are lazy as fuck. Even the best optimised 2017 games show little significant difference between Ryzen and 7700K, despite the fact Ryzen crushes it outside of games.

I still don't think I've seen a single LGA2011 or X299 platform CPU gaming benchmark that shows it beating a consumer grade i5 or i7, at-least not by any meaningful measure.

>>61299290
Bump for this anon that's clueless about monitors.

>>61303500

I dunno

AMD has been the more 'future proof' option since Bulldozer and Intel always do better in real world games performance

Same thing with DX12. Anyone who has been on the Intel-Nvidia bandwagon since the early 2000s has been ahead

>>61303688
>Even the best optimised 2017 games show little significant difference between Ryzen and 7700K
Because they are not heavy enough to make a 7700k crumble on their own, same thing with i5 3 - 4 years ago: AAA games weren't heavy enough to have to worry about performance. But time changes, games become more heavy over time, and now i5 will crumble on their own in AAA games like battlefield 1 or such. It doesn't matter even remotely if they developpers are lazy or not (and believe me they sure as fuck weren't for BF1): if the game is too heavy, the i5 crumbles. Meanwhile an R5 1600, even though it has weaker & lower clocked cores, performs better because the game isn't limited to only 4 threads and instead has 12 to work with. Games always become more intensive as time goes on, and by getting an i5 or 7700k currently you make the bet that for some reason it won't. It's a stupid bet and obviously you'll lose.

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Why does it cost so much to upgrade to a I7 ? You have to buy new ram+ motherboard+windows 10

>>61303889
>It's a stupid bet and obviously you'll lose.
I hope it's that way. I'm still using Ivy Bridge and right now not really feeling any need to upgrade. From a scroungers perspective it's good hardware is lasting so long, but I also want games to just run better.

At the end of the day I can always swap out my 7700k for an i9 if games begin to call for more cores

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>>61304018
>he thinks Intel will let him do that

>>61304018
Sure, but only you can afford wasting money like that

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>>61304018
You also have to factor in the expense of weekly liquid nitrogen dewer shipments and fire insurance

>>61304111
Anyone got that webm of the 3D render of the thermal paste going on the contact pins then the CPU ontop of it?

>>61304133
it was mayonnaise

>>61304018
>i9
wew you trying to take out a home insurance loan or something?

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>>61304197

>>61299031
What are some good low profile case fans? Height should be lower than 15mm

so, I just installed a brand new 7700k, and am trying to run an 5Ghz oc. when running AIDA64s stresstest with just the CPU selected, the CPU skyrockets in temps instantly to 70-80 and once the test is stopped it goes straight down again to 35. what's going on?

having FPU selected to makes it throttle, and the temp monitors in AIDA always say "30" unless looking at the individual cores, which actually goes up and down.

>>61304351
>the CPU skyrockets in temps instantly to 70-80 a
sudden change of clockspeed increase heat output by a fuckton, much more than slow change of clockspeed
so going from idle to stresstest it's normal that it does that. The 7700k also is notoriously bad at this so that makes thing even worse.

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>>61304351
>7700k

>>61304370
so it's just fine that it's hitting those temps that quickly? also, I set my oc multip to 50 in bios, but when checking with cpuz the multiplier sits at 44?

>>61300357
Rolling

Jesus christ the amount of AMD shills in this thread is sickening.

>>61304351
>and am trying to run an 5Ghz oc
That's not going to happen unless you delid pal, you'll be hitting that 105C wall long before you get to 5Ghz.

It's normal for processors to spike up in temps really quickly, it's not really an indication of a problem. You might find it does it a bit slower after a delid though, mine did, but not a massive difference and kind of an irrelivant thing to worry about.

>>61304418
just used to overclocking this 4670k, that went reaaaal slowly in terms of temps rising when stresstested

>>61304226
>wew you trying to take out a home insurance loan or something?

no but 4chan is making me feel buyer's remorse for what is likely a top tier games CPU for the next 3 years

>>61304018
>putting a 480 watt cpu into a 1151 socket
The madman.

>>61304413
>so it's just fine that it's hitting those temps that quickly?
It's normal, but it's still a very bad thing.

>>61304484
okay thanks for the answers, one last thing, without delid, what's a common OC for the 7700k?

>>61304518
4.5-4.6 is probably doable, but honestly all CPU's are different.

If you really don't want to delid I wouldn't worry too much about hitting 105C in AIDA or prime95 as they are retardedly unrealistic with regards to the amount of heat they generate. It just means you'll have to stability test 'on the fly', i.e. set an OC you think is stable and check for WESA errors every few hours, if you're getting errors bump the voltage up until they go away.

Using an old BenQ GL2460hm (60hz] with my new build, 1600 + 1060. Would getting a 1080p 144hz be mostly a sidegrade?
Wondering if I should get a 144hz now or wait and grab an ips 1440 monitor later.

>>61304540
WHEA* errors, fucking phone.

>>61304548
You won't get 144hz unless you are playing old games or lowered setting

>>61304548
>wait and grab an ips 1440 monitor later.
Do dis, 1080p is pretty much on the way out, even a 1050Ti rapes 1080p these days.

>>61304558
You don't need 144FPS to take advantage of 144Hz you dumb shitter. The difference in tearing and input delay between 60Hz and 144Hz is massive regardless of the framerate.

>>61304558
Newest game I've played so far is Doom, but it seems to stay comfortably over 100 fps with everything on high.

>>61304540
okay cool, appreciate it anon, genuine thanks.

>>61304575
I guess do what you want then, retard?

>>61304595
>retard
What did you just call me?

>>61299977
Maybe because the cheapest 1080 costs as much as an entire rig

>>61304612
Maybe if you're poor.

>>61304607
Nvidia user.

>>61304621
>deflecting an argument with a completely unrelated claim
You can build a 4K rig with a thousand bucks, why would I spend an extra 1K just for diminishing returns
In a couple years 1080 will be half it's current price anyway, so there is literally no point in buying it unless you want to go completely overkill

>>61304589
This is my build >>61300922
And I rape DOOM/Dying Light/OW/SC2/FarCry Primal/etc on highest setting. FCP I think I had to drop shadows to medium to keep it comfy at 60fps, otherwise it was around 50

>>61304650
It isn't really diminishing returns as better cards scale a lot better at higher resolutions. I'd argue something like a 1080Ti is entirely pointless for 1080p, and only really needed for 1440p if you have autism.

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>>61304708
Yeah, but would you rather pay 300 bucks for a 1060TI and comfortably play at 4K 60fps for years to come or blow extra 700 bucks to play at 4K 60fps for years to come
I understand if you want to play on a 240Hz monitor but otherwise it's complete overkill

>>61304659
But you're not hitting much over 60fps right? I'm debating if getting a 144hz monitor is worth it or if I should wait to upgrade when I get a new gpu.

>>61304740
>1060TI and comfortably play at 4K 60fps for years to come
Yeah nah son, maybe if you're playing indie games or something.

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>>61304764
So this is the point where you are trying to hide your regret of spending excess money by making claims that are completely idiotic
Even a 1050TI can run most games at 4K 60fps on medium/high settings and a 1060TI just blows everything out of the water
Not only that, only a handful of people actually constantly play at 4K and actually own a 4K monitor, whereas the majority either uses 1080p or 1440p, where both cards can run absolutely everything on the highest settings
Get fucked, my nigger and don't reply to me unless you have something actually constructive to add, you shitposting faggot

>>61303490
The reason I act quickly is because I'm texting at stoplights. I'm on my shift so I'm maximizing my micro-stops as best I can for information and etcetera

>>61304746
Depends on the game but I tend to leave v-sync on because I have eye issues that make the refresh rate really irritate me when it goes above 60. But really I got those two decent BenQ screens for free so I figure I might as well run with them until they die.

On that note, anything in there that's glaringly bad or needs an upgrade?

>>61302748
yeah, that you can upgrade down the line. you can buy the 1400 now, and in three years get Ryzen 3 or whatever is out.

>>61301931
Ultrawide, plus a sideways 19:10 for shitposting.

any more than 2 monitors is cancer.

>>61304837
>On that note, anything in there that's glaringly bad or needs an upgrade?
I would say no, besides overclocking your cpu, that system should be fine for a couple years. Maybe faster ram if your mobo supports it?

>>61303450
Stupid question, if I just decided to play older games, like from 2014 down it'd be fine getting an Intel correct? Especially since I don't render, stream, or edit. I have my eyes set on a Pentium (or r3 if they come out sooner) and aside from the gaming I mostly just web browse.

>>61304931
Yeah, perfectly fine.

>>61304956
Ah alright. Thank you.

>>61304931
yea, you'd be fine. I'd look at an i7 2600k if doing that. If building a retro pc for gaming using the newest hardware, it depends on which operating system you plan. For example, the newest and most powerful CPU that will support Windows XP is the AMD FX series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIMd8TUUGg

>>61304803
You must have smoked a whole UPS truck full of crack if you think a 1060Ti will run games at 4K for years to come.

>>61305000
>another off-topic non-constructive argument

I told you not to fucking reply to me with that shit

>>61304915
Unfortunately i fell for the "I don't need to overclock" meme and got the non-k unit. The ram in there is actually 1600mhz and I can't for the life of me figure out why it drops to 800mhz despite the Mobo saying it's right for 1600mhz. This is everything I got https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KZw2D8
Any idea why it's stuck at 800?

>should be fine for a couple of years
Yea, that's what I've been thinking also; shame because I really wanna make a new build in a sexy Phantek. I was running a 660 and buying the 1060 (which I got for $250AUD before the stupid price hike) sort of solved any bottleneck.

I have never had so many issues getting a fucking PC to boot in my life. I have a spare Z97+4770k that I was planning to put together. When I took apart this everything worked fine, pull it and and boot it up, loads windows but it's super laggy and I get random hard locks. Tried known good ram, no change. Figure the mother board is fired, I just so happen to have a spare Z87 mobo, get that out, put my 4770k in it, boot it up. Loads windows fine. No hard locks, updated my BIOs for the hell of it and now it will only show a blank screen on boot. Fuck me right? Well I go buy a B85 mobo cheap just to get this up and running, and I don't even get a blank screen I get no video out, I buy a fucking i3 to test, still no video out. RMA the new board and new i3 for replacements, new ones still have no video out.


WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

>>61305065
this is your endboss and you will die while fixing it.

>>61305080
I'm fucking done with it, i was gonna mess around and make a home NAS out of it but at this point I spent so much money for something that doesn't work I'm just fucking done

>>61305065

must be an issue with your windows version conflicting with safe boot uefi/drivers/default config & update the chipset

chill the f out and build logically starting with the psu instead of buying random stuff impulsively

Do you make your own external hard drives anon?
The cost is about the same between getting an external or buying an hdd/enclosure. Are the drives in externals usually binned lower?

>>61305136
>must be an issue with your windows version conflicting with safe boot uefi/drivers/default config & update the chipset

New both new B85 mobos do not send out video, I can't even see the bios. Windows would have nothing to do with it and even without any stop of storage plugged in, I still get no video.

>chill the f out and build logically starting with the psu instead of buying random stuff impulsively

What are you talking about? I trouble shoot everything and made logical replacements. At this point I have an entire new computers worth of parts that gets me no closer to a fucking PC that will boot.

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>>61299031
I'm retarded, I just ordered an ATX motherboard for an upgrade and forgot I have an mATX case. I need to find a cheap case with 240mm radiator support now. Any pointers?

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>no you will never need all that ram

Poorfag here.
Upscaling 720p to 1280x1024, need new GPU to fucking max out games on.
Can I get away with a RX 560 2GB version? What if I need good textures? Should I wait for 4GB in stock for a bit more cash?

>>61305269
can you compress that further for me?

how can i connect ~20 gtx 1070s together efficiently? shall i buy a cheap individual psu for each one or a more expensive one which can run 2 at a time?

>>61305269
>2kb
We can go lower!

Also Corsair 200R

>>61305337
Fuck you miner scum

>>61305340
Thank you so much, I'll use this one if I can't find anything in my city. Are there any cheaper ones you know of? I'm on a tight budget

>>61305210
If you've mixed and matched each CPU to each MB and they're all still broken, it's probably not the CPU or MB.
Check monitor, RAM, PSU, GPU if discrete.
Make sure to unplug fucking everything you don't need to boot. No peripherals, add-in cards, nothing.

>>61305386
Mixed and matched everything. I even started making a diagram. No one explanation that makes any sense is my 4770k died and 2 new mobos and 2 new CPUs were all DOA.

What are the fucking chances?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/percalator21/saved/CCMZLk

Thoughts? Mainly going to use it for gaming. Am wiling to go up to $1,100

>>61305300
Gpu too weak for more ram, 2gb is okay. It should play games on 1080p on low settings.

>>61305427
Are you 5 years into the future?

>>61305404
Do you have known good PSU, RAM, and unplugged everything but what is needed to boot? No mouse, KB etc.

You were able to boot twice with the i7, and CPUs rarely go bad. That chip, and probably the i3 as well, are probably still good.
Possible your MB was dying, you killed the second with a BIOS/UEFI update, and the third was just not known, turned out bad (or it's been something else this whole time, which seems more likely).

>>61305368
Deepcool tesseract SW potentially (can't find anything exactly but it has space at top for 2x120 fans)
Fractal design Focus G

There's 3 potentials for under $100AUD. You should be able to find one or the other

Hey, I want to get a pc for hardcore gaming.
I was thinking about X99A pro gaming carbon, 4X8GB ram (mobo supports quad channel), 7700k and 1080ti (aorus extreme) with some random recommended 850W PSU.

What do you think about the general build?

>>61305065
Just display from intel HD instead of your GPU and leave it out of the case.

>>61305412
Crap, try again this time after reading the op.
Go from here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DdqwQV

>>61305518
Good luck fitting a 1151 CPU into a 2011 socket.
Also, your PSU is needlessly big.

>>61305515
Also throw in the deepcool kendomen; this one specifically says it supports a 240 radiator on top. And it's even cheaper at $65 AUD

>>61305547
What was wrong with mine? And whats bad about the i5?

>>61299031
Fuck me, why is there no GTX 1050 4GB? Fucking nvidia.
Is a RX 560 that worse?

>>61305562
Oops, forgot I switched the mobo (that was from an old build).
The correct mobo is Maximus IX Hero. Thanks

>>61305593
why would you want 4gb on some shitty underpowered gpu like a 1050? that extra ram would probably bump the price up by like $20. 2gb is fine for a card like that since it's weak as fuck anyway.

>>61305404

besides having a good psu gold rating minimum, recommended ss or superflower evga

try updating the z97 bios/uefi using a usb stick, download the latest one from the mobo website including all other drivers

boot, ez flash or equivalent update the .cap file

then the z97 auto settings are probably not adequate so you'd have to go thru the settings with the mobo manual and turn off all power saving options, the mobo isn't doa even less the chip it's just a mismatch imo

>>61305619
It's not "weak as fuck", it drives new games on 1080p Very High smoothly.
Given I'm running 720p for several more years, I could use that 4GB for textures and play on 60fps"ultra" for years to come.

>>61305588
It's based on an old architecture with minimal improvements on an socket that's at end of life and only comes with 4 cores and 4 threads. Needs an aftermarket cooler.
Also it's from Intel's DRM generation and you shouldn't give money to support this kind of behaviour.
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 with 6 cores and 12 threads is THE cpu to buy for any kind of mixed usage that's not 144hz gaming only.
The 1050ti is a nice budget gaming card but if you can get your hands on the 6gb 1060 you're gonna have a much better time.

>>61305605
You don't need 850W of power unless you are planning a second GPU, which you shouldn't be.
You can go for 650-750 and be well in the clear, including OC.

>>61305646
What about my storage components.

>>61305642
>Please do note, I strongly recommend shoppers to avoid 4GB RX 560s because the GPU really isn't powerful enough to properly utilize that much memory. This makes the price premium for 4GB versions impossible to justify in my opinion, so please opt for a 2GB RX 560, which should cost $100 or less.

even 4gb rx 560's aren't recommended. 2gb is more than enough for gpu of this tier.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1430-radeon-rx-560-vs-geforce-gtx-1050/

>>61305691
Do high resolution textures really require that much performance?

>>61305412
I'd find a newer, better PSU.
NEX series are deprecated.
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151186
Is a newer, better choice. Or the Supernova G2/3.

>>61305684
Oh yeah I forgot. Not having an SSD in a desktop after the yeat 2015 is torture. I'd actually recomment a bigger one and dropping the HDD but that would be too expensive.
The HDD you chose wasn't bad but the 3tb Toshiba is the one I always recommend because it's bigger while costing not much more and has a good reputation.
I took out windows 10 because you can get that for 15 bucks off Ebay and keyshops but if that's not your kind of thing you can pay full price.
I didn't touch your case but you might wanna go with a smaller one for your mATX board but that's really up to you. It's cheap and does the job so who cares really.

>>61305726
this is something to consider as well

>>61305719
the real question is do high resolution textures really justify the 20% price hike for 2gb extra vram.

if you really want to see how high resolution textures perform on the 1050 just search youtube. a lot of the time these "ultra textures" still run fine on these 2gb gpu, probably due to fancy compression techniques used in the driver.

as an example here's shadow of mordor, which has a 6gb vram requirement for ultra textures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yGw7ZTM-gA
hint: it runs fine even on the 1050 2gb.

>>61305789
That really got me thinking now. What actually happens when VRAM gets depleted? Stuttering?

>>61305800
It's swapped out to system RAM. Latency up the wazoo. Very severe stuttering.

>>61305815
For a second or two, right? Not bad.

>>61305800
stuttering, latency spikes. it's a very rare occurrence though. the driver normally handles these situations well.

>>61305815
>>61305832
Can someone please confirm I'm not being set up for a ruse cruise?

Bought a used 1080ti off amazon warehouse deals for 660€.
Did i dun goofed or is this a good catch considering the recent prices?
Is there any way for me to check the condition it's in once i get it? I can always return it if its fucked up, but is there a way to tell?

>>61305888
At the end of the day, by the time you find yourself running out of VRAM in a 1050, you've already slowed to a crawl thanks to the weak GPU.
If you're playing Overwatch and DOTA and crap like that, it's not such a big deal either way. The extra VRAM isn't going to help you play above the lowest settings in games like RE7 anyway.

>>61305938
I'm more interested in Risen 3, Dark Souls 1, Shadow Warrior.
Maybe I'll run Witcher 3 and Battlefield 4.
Will I be able to downscale older games like STALKER from 1080p on 2GB?

Will most PSUs come with a power cable, or is that something i need to buy separately?

>>61305996
just look at these benches >>61305691
there's 30 games there with most being common games you might consider to play in the future like witcher 3 or bf1 like you said.

>>61306125
So can I safely add at least +50% FPS for 720p rendering?

>>61306141
you'd gain a nice bump in performance at that resolution, yeah. there will probably be enough headroom to supersample in many games too. this is a gpu targeted at 1080p after all.

>>61306182
Great, thanks everyone for saving me valuable cash.

Im planning on buying an UPS but i dont know which is the right one for me. What do i have to look for e.g. which manufactuers sell trash and how quick it has to be in case of a power outage. I#ve thought about something like this https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/gx1325u/ Since my PC has a PSU with 550W and i guess that its better to have some more Power in the UPS to have more time to shut my PC off

>>61306101
They come with one

Hey speaking of UPSes, are there any portable ones that keep a decent capacity? Looking to lug one around for my power tools - sage for slightly off topic reply

SuperBiiz was a mistake.
Anybody have history with them?

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