/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>60952880
>listening to music on headphones without crossfeed
>ever
Crossfeed kinda eliminates the point of soundstage. Soundstage is only good for virtual surround sound gaming.

>>60953002
>crossfeed
Eww.

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>>60953017
I find that it sounds more natural and reduces listening fatigue. Different strokes.

>>60953002
What's crossfeed and how do I use/enable it? Google didn't help much, am audiopleb.

>>60953045
I can understand some panning (50% or less) when listening to Amiga mods on headphones, because it can get ridiculous.
For actual recordings, or any synth that doesn't have such extreme limitations (4 hardware voices, either 2+2 left/right or 4 mono(bothsides)), panning does more harm than good.

Thinking about getting a bluetooth dac+amp to pair with my phone. Any recommendations (<$120) or are they all shit?

>>60953064
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfeed
It's typically found in VST plugin implementation. The best crossfeed ever was made by Astralstorm at Changstar but it's no longer available anywhere on the net. However, I contacted Astralstorm a while back after I lost his crossfeed in a hard drive crash and he sent me it via email. I just emailed him and asked permission to post his crossfeed where people have requested it over at superbestaudiofriends. I'll post here if I get an OK or if he posts it himself. His crossfeed is the only one I've found that doesn't affect frequency response.
In the absence of Astralstorm's excellent crossfeed, just use BS2B. It produces a very mild treble reduction; gimme a sec and I can measure it for reference.

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>>60953101
>bluetooth dac+amp
Literally what?

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B2SB's affect on frequency response at default setting. I'm posting these so people can use B2SB in conjunction with a high shelf EQ filter to compensate.

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>>60953147
C. Moy setting. These graphs are generated with the program VST Plugin Analyser.

>>60953123
An external dac with bluetooth support like the creative E3.

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>>60953160
J. Meier setting. Foobar2k is a music player that can use VST plugins. For movies/anime, if using MPC-HC use ffdshow audio for its winamp plugin support; load VST plugins with the winamp plugin VST Host DSP 1.1.6 for Winamp. For mpv build mpv yourself with b2sb, which I think can be done.

>>60953194
Also, IIRC some mpv builds for linux come with b2sb already built in.

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Anyone ever listen to these? I'm in the market for a pair of small, comfy on-ears. I also need something with a laid-back signature because I fried my ears listening to music too loud as a teen, and now anything else kills me.

>>60953368
https://innerfidelity.com/images/PhilipsFidelioM1Mk12012
Holy fuck, how's that nigga going to seal consistently?

>>60953436
>>60953436
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PhilipsFidelioM1Mk12012.pdf
I can't copy and paste very well

>>60953112
>>60953147
>>60953160
>>60953194
Wow thanks anon, will try and see if I like it : )

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Speaking of crossfeed, I remember TB Isone being a pretty convincing near field monitor setup simulator, but dropping it because it sounded like it affected frequency response too much. Here's what it does to FR with the Near-Field setup preset and its EQ set to flat. Fucking hell. I'm curious if fixing this with EQ will fuck up the HRTF implementation. I'll give it a try some time when I'm bored.

>>60953595
>inb4 deleted again

>>60953698
Posted it in the wrong thread last time.

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>>60953713

>>60953456
Now there's a headphone that'd be pointless to EQ.
>>60953713
There are lots of audio/headphone websites you can talk on which weren't explicitly created so their creator could talk about anime and manga with his friends. This isn't one of them.

>>60953713
Hi.
Go to hell.

Canadafag here but looking to get a good pair of noise-cancelling headphones under 150$ preferrably with a detachable cord.

Last pair were Sennheiser 280s and after 1.5years the cord has waned and they're starting to go.

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deadass what would be the highest amount of money that would still be worth spending on a set of open cans if you are just going to use 256k aac?

>>60955809
Bit rate is irrelevant

>>60955830
oh please

there ain't no way you're gonna make use of the Orpheus or sr009 with iTunes.......wouldn't it be a waste?

>>60955868
Time to use lossless codecs then :^)

>>60955868
No. First off most audio codecs are audibly transparent nowadays. Secondly, even if you were using files of poor quality they'd still sound better on a good pair of headphones.

>>60955635
380 Pro

>>60955904

Are they comfy? Seems like a really weird build, I got a giant head so I'm a bit worried they wont fit comfortably.

>>60953778
>Pointless to EQ
Not necessarily, the plots don't tell us that. Variance on Tyll's dummy head does not translate into variance on real ears. Tyll purposefully reseats the headphones multiple times into different positions which might not be the case in practical use. This is done to verify seal(how it might or should look like) and to average out the treble range. Compliance, shape and protrusion of the dummy head's pinnae combined with ear cup adjustment, ear pad material and ear pad shape causes variances which are not representative of real world. Dummy heads tend to perform the worst on supra-aural models, too.

It could be very consistent in use but you can't use the plots to EQ.

>>60955809
There is absolutely no correlation like that. Not between money and sound quality or codec and headphone sound quality. Artifacts from lossy data compression are distinctively different from headphone performance. 256k AAC is very high fidelity and should achieve transparency easily. Whether it does or doesn't is down to the skill of the listener, not a feat of the headphone used to listen or money spent. Worth is not up to others to say.

>>60955947
Pads look pretty big and thick. The headband extention goes pretty far. If you liked the 280 Pro's comfort, these would probably be on par or better.

>>60952772
Thoughts on this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/48V-DC-Phantom-Power-Supply-For-Condenser-Recording-Microphone-US-Power-ED-/132038524415?hash=item1ebe1bfdff:g:DasAAOSwZQRYVtrE`

>>60956047

Alrighty. Was eyeing the AKG K240's instead. They seem pretty good, reviews are neat, its half-open, but its also half the price.

I just got some soundmagic E10s, all the eartips apart from the double tipped longer one have almost no bass at all

Do I have autistic ears that need the tips to go in a bit further or is that just normal

>>60957968
Commonplace problem for cheap in ears and the tips they come with. Bass level is a good indicator of proper fit. There should be plenty on the E10s.

>>60955947
Comfiest closest I've worn. They sound good, too, and the cable is detachable.

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Idol trash reporting in.
What's your setup, Anon?

>>60958286
guess i'll wear the ones with bass then

weird how almost all of them don't fit me properly

>Budget
$200AUD (about $150USD) slightly flexible
>Location
Australia
>Source
pc
>Type of headphone
full size over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
don't really wanna cheap out on comfort but i don't know just show me what you got
>Past headphones
Corsair H2100, fuck wireless that was a mistake

also would like if the headset had a mic, but if its doesn't and its fairly cheap i might consider

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>>60952772

>Budget
$70 USD is my absolute maximum ($50 and above is pushing it)

>Location
Northeastern US

>Source
Android smartphone and laptop

>Type of headphone
IEMs

>Comfort level
Not TOO uncomfortable (I want to wear them on my bus ride to work and maybe around the house)

>Sound signature
I listen to a variety of stuff, a lot of it non-music (podcasts, reviews, etc), so neutral or balanced (I don't know the difference between these two) could work. However, as for music, I tend to listen to metal, hard rock, and Eurobeat along with a mix some other electronic stuff. I'm not sure what the ideal signature(s) is/are for that.

>Past headphones
I used a pair of Klipsch S3 IEMs for the past 3 years until recently. The left one started becoming quiet first until everything was barely audible from it, then the right one became the same all of the sudden a few days later (all of this happened over the past 2-3 weeks). I currently use a pair of Sony MDR-XD200s (around-the-ear) around the house.

Built-in mic and/or volume controls are optional, but preferred.

Small included carrying case also strongly preferred (the zipper on my third-party carrying case for my Klipsch S3s is FUBAR, so any excuse for me to stop using that case is more than welcome).

Wireless/Bluetooth not recommended because I don't trust those models to have good sound and/or build quality. Plus, Bluetooth might make music skip/pause for a split second before resuming (I already sometimes have this problem on my phone when playing back music from my SD card, I don't want to make it worse).

>>60958681
Sennheiser HD380 Pro.
>headset
No. See FAQ @op.

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Would anyone recommend these? Audio Technica BPHS1

>>60959417
How about chinkshit?
https://audiobudget.com/product/boarseman
I have both the CX98 and KR49i. The CX98(S) are neutralish bright, idk if brightness is a problem but i do enjoy metal/rock on them quiet a bit. For EDM etc. they may lack bass but what bass is there is of good quality.
The KR49i are more or less the opposite. V-shaped, slightly loose bass but overall still good. Metal/rock are good on them, EDM etc. obv. better since muh bass.
CX98(S) come with a small carrying case while KR49i has a one button remote. All are well within your budget and cost $15-30.

>>60959702
Just get a boom pro and good headphones with a detachable cable.

>>60959985
Recommend any in the 150-250 euro range?

Open or Closed Headphones? Personal preference and why?

>>60960003
Are open headphones fine or do you require isolation?

>>60960080
Open when practical. They sound more natural and the bass response is significantly less resonant.

>>60960083
I would prefer closed but it doesn't really matter all that much.

>>60960109
Open will sound much better. I know it's under your price range, but I'd recommend getting an HD558 and using the following instructions to attach a BoomPro to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_fd3PzoTeY
There were historically ~$150 headphones but ever since they got discontinued they've gone down $60 or more in price. They're an incredible deal right now and sound almost identical to the HD598SR which are selling for $170 right now on Amazon.
>but can't I do better if I spend more?
Not really, at least in terms of headphones that can take a BoomPro, AFAIK. In any case, there is no correlation between headphone frequency response and price: http://asa.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1121/1.4984044

>>60960210
Thanks but that seems like too much hassle for my liking. I appreciate your help though.

>>60960281
Phillips SHP9500 then. You won't need to mod them to connect a BoomPro to them.

>>60960322
Thanks they might just work.

>>60960003
Look into:
* HD579, 599, 598se/sr, 558
* k702

>>60960633
I don't think K702 can take a BoomPro.
>>60960544
I just realized that Sennheiser PC360 Special Edition is at a really good price right now. I think these should have HD558/598 drivers in them, so they should be pretty good, and it comes with a mic.

>>60960741
>I think these should have HD558/598 drivers in them, so they should be pretty good, and it comes with a mic.
I'd investigate that before spending a cent. Never just assume.

I fell for the Phillips Fidelio X2 me me.

>>60960210
The HD598SR is a good option if you must have a mic.

>>60960782
Sennheiser PC360 had HD555/595 drivers in them. I'd assume the newer special edition has either the same or probably HD558/598 drivers. Either would be acceptable.

>>60959722
Not sure if I want to fall for the chinkshit meme, but I'll check them out. Also for non-chinkshit I might look at the SoundMAGIC E10 (there's a version called the E10C with an inline mic, but it seems to be less reliable than the regular E10) and the Audio Technica ATH-IM50.

>>60960799
Didn't even know that was a thing. Where the fuck is the mic?

>>60960818
Keep in mind the drivers aren't the only factor to FR.
Above everything, never trust headphone makers. The actual good headphones/cost are so few when compared to the available options at any price bracket, it makes all the sense in the world to be paranoid.

>>60960846
From amazon:
Two cables provided - a 3 meter cable terminated with a 1/4-inch jack and 1.2 meter cable terminated with a 3.5mm jack that features an in line one button remote with microphone for taking calls.
So I understand the cable has, near the headphone, some module which includes a mic.

>>60960878
Ah. I bet you'd sound distant as shit with that compared to a regular headset mic/boompro right in front of your mouth.

>>60953368
DONT BUY THIS SHIT
Pads will be destroy with one mounth

What's your preferred sound signature, /hpg/? Mine is essentially an ER4S or the Harman target with flat bass instead of boosted bass.

>>60962184

Balanced, with U-shaped in a close second place.

>>60962184
U-Shaped with more emphasis on treble than bass, maybe even bright.

>>60962543
I think this might be the most objectively incorrect subjective opinion I have ever seen.

>>60962610

>Trying too had to say "you're wrong"

(you) didn't bother posting your preference to go with your trash opinion. Try again.

What are some good closed, on ear headphones at $100 or less? Looking for something to use when running/cycling/gymming and I hate IEMs. I'm currently using the AKG K512 but they're too bassy, the cord is really short and they sit too tightly on my head. I just want something flat since I listen to all kinds of music

Don't know if I should post in here or /csg/ but I just got an urbanfun and it's fucking amazing holyshit

>>60962699
>AKG K512
Fug, I mean the K518

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>>60962699
>good
>closed
>on-ear
>$100 or less

>>60962723
Thanks for the input, I'm going to use my K712 when I'm out running, you sure sound like you know what you're talking about

>>60962699
Beyer Custom Street/Custom Street i

>>60962758
Noontec Zoro II HD is the best you'll be able to do. It's a bit bass heavy and treble light, though.

>>60962779
>>60962787
And if you increase the budget to $150?

>>60962699

Is there any particular reason that you specifically want closed for running?

>>60962814
To not leak sound when I'm at the gym

>>60962536
ok let me save everyone in this thread a few posts, someone is going to reply with "anime website" then you'll reply with some retort, then people will post images about how 4chan was created and aimed at a userbase who enjoys anime. Let us move on now

>>60962806
Sennheiser HD 25/ 25 1-II

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>>60962699
>>60962787 here. I actually think >>60962779 is probably a better suggestion upon further review. This measurement is really good; this website's compensation curve usually leads to a peak at around 5-6k with accurate headphones like the HD600, so I wouldn't say the peak here represents excessive treble.

>>60962779
>>60962868
>>60962878
Both of these look pretty good, I might go with the Beyerdynamics though since they look more rugged and I won't have to worry about being rough on them since they're cheaper. I already have different headphones for when I'm out and about, these are just for running/cycling/gymming.

>>60962975
The Beyerdynamics (set to the middle bass setting) look more accurate to me than the Sennheisers based on the measurements.

Honest to God question, what's the point in buying super expensive headphones when mid-priced cans can perfectly emulate them through equalizer adjustments?

I ask because I'm wearing a pair of 40 dollar JVC HA-RX700's that sound pretty damn great with audio adjustments, and to me they're far superior to my ATH MH50X's and MDR6's.

>>60963180
There is none. People suffering from post purchase rationalization will try to convince you that inaudible things are actually audible but they're incorrect.

>>60963180

Take your pick(s): materials, aesthetics, fit/finish, not wanting to EQ to achieve a particular tonality, bragging rights or confidence in a brand/model's reputation.

It's just personal preference, really. You are also assuming that you can accurately reproduce the target sound 100% though simple EQ, which likely isn't true. Could you get it close enough that most people wouldn't know the difference? Probably.

If someone thinks that it's worth it, they'll spend the extra. If not, save that money.

>>60963180
Wouldn't hurt you to try HD600.

>>60963180
There is none, anything past HD600 territory is diminishing returns

>>60958413
>schiit stack
someone got memed

>>60963506
I love my schiit stack, Anon. It's the schiit.

>>60963522
Why not get the combined amp and dac
If you say the sound quality is superior then you're a retard

>>60963506
The Magni family is good Schiit if you need the extra power over the Fulla2. (Insert inevitable discussion about if HD600 needs more power than a Fulla2 can provide) He got memed hard by the Modi, though; it won't sound any different than the $29 Sabre Tiny.

>>60963554
What combined amp and dac?

>>60963567
Schiit Fulla 2

>>60963561
>He got memed hard by the Modi, though; it won't sound any different than the $29 Sabre Tiny.
It won't sound any different than the fulla2 I already do have. But:
Not USB powered (so it's not dependant on the computer for power)
Coax and optical spdif inputs (I use with PC and PS3 respectively). So I don't need to use USB as soundcard either, just onboard's digital output
Fits and looks cute under my magni2 uber
And lastly, its cost is disposable income to me

>Budget
€250

>Location
Europe

>Source
Windows computer with O2+ODAC and an iPhone 7

>Type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Doesn't matter

>Comfort level
Needs to be very comfortable

>Sound signature
Either warm or neutral

>>60963592
I own and use one of these at work. It's very good, too.
But has no digital inputs, and compared to the magni2, it distorts at the higher end of the volume range.

>>60963617
Look into HD600, 579, 599, 598/SE/SR(not Cs), k702.

>>60963601
>its cost is disposable income to me
Absolutely imbecilic logic. Wealthy people stay wealthy by spending and saving their money wisely. $100 DACs are not an example of wise money spending.
>Fits and looks cute under my magni2 uber
...

>>60963617
HD600

>>60963641
>>60963694
Thanks for the help.

>>60963667
>$100 DACs are not an example of wise money spending.
You forgot to add a zero there. $100 is literally nothing. It's cheaper than most soundcards I own or have owned. It also sounds better.
>Wealthy people stay wealthy by spending and saving their money wisely
True, and I recommend GNUCash to track expenses. I'm told I'm a fucking rat, so I must be doing well.

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>>60963720
When transparent $29 DACs exist, $100 DACs are not an example of wise money spending. You are wrong.

>>60963746
Sure, but your $29 DAC meets a few of the following:
* china made, poor qc, not durable, might spontaneously catch fire
* ugly plastic case
* no spdif/coax inputs
* usb powered, possibly shitty usbstick form factor
* high noise floor or other sound flaws, likely external to the DAC chip used.

>>60963795
>ugly
Stop. It's not something you wear around other people. This is not a practical concern.
>usb powered
USB power does not introduce audible drawbacks if properly implemented.

>>60963746
If DACs were as easy as throwing a good DAC chip into the design and calling it a day, onboard sound would be good in the first place, and we'd need no external DACs.

>>60963830
That's a hell of a strawman.

>>60963827
>USB power does not introduce audible drawbacks if properly implemented.
If properly implemented, sure. I own a couple chink $10 soundscards and a fulla2, what a difference.
But my comment was never about the sound. USB power is just annoying in general.

>>60963854
>plug it in
>it works
WOW HOW ANNOYING

>>60963827
>Stop. It's not something you wear around other people. This is not a practical concern.
I have some cute figurines on my desk and find them pleasant to be around. Same is true for my schiit stack.
Other people aren't a concern.

>>60963883
>I find value in the pleasant feelings looking at my overpriced DAC bring me
I'm talking to the fucking nameless narrator from Fight Club.

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>>60963503

>I have tried every headphone that costs more than an HD600, and none of them are noticeably different or better than this one, single model.

That's a nice opinion you've got there.

>>>60963746

>The same argument as above, but with an entry-level DAC

You know, as much as people whinge on about [buyer's remorse] for higher-than-mid-fi gear on this board, you guys sure spend endless hours validating your own purchases to everyone else. It smacks of condescension and insecurity.

>>60963862
The port needs to enumerate and the OS needs a driver for it. Just by being USB some milliseconds of buffering will be added to the overall delay.
Rebooting might translate into hearable clicks and noises as all of this happens. Plugging into a hub might keep it powered all the time, or not. It might also make it stop enumerating. USB is just a pain in the ass to deal with.
If it had other digital inputs than usb, then I could just leave it attached to a hub or phone charger all day, but at that point, why not have an actual power supply for it, rather than transform power to usb specs and back?
I get it, the fulla2 is convenient, I can throw it around and plug it to any computer and it does quite well, but I very much appreciate my modi at home.
>I'm talking to the fucking nameless narrator from Fight Club.
I also touch it and pet it and talk to it, although not as much as the figurines. Hate much?

>>60963746
>>60963980
Sigh, now I want a satania figurine. Stupid product placement.

>>60963980
>Just by being USB some milliseconds of buffering will be added to the overall delay.
You will never, ever detect this.
>Rebooting might translate into hearable clicks and noises as all of this happens.
I have never experienced this, not that it isn't anything but the most minor, least impactful possible concern.
>Plugging into a hub
Why would you even need a hub? USB expansion cards are cheap as shit.

>>60964036
>You will never, ever detect this.
But won't be able to sleep at night thinking about it. I'll have nightmares about latency.
>I have never experienced this, not that it isn't anything but the most minor, least impactful possible concern.
I have, and I find it extremely irritating. I'm autistic, too. Somebody else might easily not care.
>Why would you even need a hub? USB expansion cards are cheap as shit.
The idea is to make it not depend on one computer in any way. One of the reasons is to prevent the previous point.
>some other, cheaper soundcard is fine.
You must have been incredibly lucky. I do have too many soundcards. Most of them I regret buying. Exceptions to that are only an emu10k1, bought year 2000 (anything newer from creative is flawed one way or another, and I have a bunch of such cards in some drawer) and the modi 2. Also been generally unlucky with onboards. I can't say I have had one motherboard that actually sounds good, in some 20 years.
So, a friend lent me his fulla2, it sounded really good, I ordered myself the schiit stack and I've been happy ever after. That non-specific $29 unicorn suggestion? It probably is flawed one way or another, too. Seriously, I've been burned too much.

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For gaming which one's better, AKG K712, HD600 or HD650?

>>60964212
>buying headphones for gaming
That said, HD600

>>60964212
>k712
Colored, uncomfortable. Exaggerates soundstage, which makes everything sound far away. This helps positioning for some people, but ultimately is wrong.
>HD600
Most neutral of the bunch. Leaves soundstage alone. Objectively the best option among the three. Considering pricing, also the best value/money.
>HD650
Colored (less treble, more bass) version of HD600. Slightly exaggerated soundstage. Generally considered worse than HD650 by reviewers, although it has some rabid fans that swear by it.

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I use these paired with a Fiio e10k.
Must say I've had a lot of pleasure using them in the last two years. They sound great.

I wonder though, what kind of benefits would higher impedance cans like the HD600 bring me in comparison?

>>60964462
>higher impedance cans
higher impedance means nothing in terms of FR unless you actually have impedance mismatch issues.
>HD600
Is a major step up, when compared to HD5xx, which in turn are a major step up over momentums.

>>60964509
Is that supposed to be a linear, unambigous step up? Figured it would simply not appeal the same tastes in sound signatures.

>>60964175
>I'm autistic, too
I'm sorry for busting your balls then. Carry on.

>>60964570
It's enough of an improvement it should make FR preferences irrelevant.
As for FR preferences, probability wise, chances are you like the harman target. Harman did study people's preferences, and it came to that target. HD600 is closest to it.

>>60964595
Alright, I'm convinced. I'll probably consider buying these next time I feel like upgrading my audio setup.

>>60964595
Also, thanks for your time.

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>>60964867
>>60964676
You're welcome.

The stock earpads on my MDR-7506 are so worn down that I had to order a pair of Brainwavz HM5 pads. Did I do good?

>>60964901
I'd have gone with the Auray sheepskin pads unless you're capable of measuring and EQing your own headphones properly. From what I can tell the HM5 pads are going to change the sound because they move your ears further from the drivers.

>>60965023
Those are more than half the price I paid for the headphones to begin with.

Dumb question: The Fulla 2 has an analog input on the front. That means I can use it as an amp for a turntable by using a dual female RCA to male 1/4" TRS cable, correct?

>>60965111
1/8" I mean

>>60965096
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888545-REG/Auray_eps_mdr7506_Genuine_Sheepskin_Leather_Earpads.html

>>60965174
I'll be damned. If the HM5 fucking suck I'll try these next.

>>60965111
Yes. Or you can chain the line-out of a phone, or a game console, or whatever else you might want to connect.

>>60965308
Yea that sounds perfect, thanks

>>60964212
K712 would be my pick.

Listening report. Metallica S&M / Ecstacy of Gold.
HD600 on Schiit stack. Feels good.

Is soundstage for iems a meme? I hear this term all over the place on head-fi

>>60966151

No, it really isn't a meme. A good example from a single company would be the Lyra II and Jupiter from Campfire audio. The Lyra II feels largely like normal IEMs, and has good separation and placement of instruments but it feels like everything is not that far from you (maybe, like, 3-5 feet). The Jupiter, on the other hand, gives the sensation that things are all kinds of distances away. Drums on a track might sound like they're right behind or infront of you, and cymbals on either side of the kit will sound like they're on opposite sides of you. A guitarist might be two feet to your left, and a piano is clearly nestled in the right-hand corner, 10+ feet away from you. Orchestral music gives the legit impression of a full pit.

>Budget
Under $50
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough for extended periods of use, 1-3 hours.
>Sound signature
I listen to a lot of R&B mainly, so headphones geared towards that
>Past headphones
Nothing worth mentioning

>>60966151
soundstage isnt real

>>60966537
Prove soundstage isn't real.

>>60966537

Anyone who says this has never heard a proper speaker setup or pair of headphones with a prominent soundstage.

>>60966682
>>60966537
Indeed. Poorfags with little listening experience.

Why is my mic making a buzzing sound?
I bought a BM-800 and a cheap phantom power, i plug it into my mobo and it buzzes like crazy. I have a USB audio thingy and that reduces the buzzing only because it reduces the volume meaning no one can hear me. Pls help

>>60966851
Ground loop? Gain is too high? Could be multiple things.

>>60966871
I mean i can turn the boost to 20 db @ 100 volume but then if i leave my mic idle it will always have a small bit of white noise that can get annoying.

Do XLR cords usually have a grounding cable in them? Would it be okay to cut it off.

>>60967030
Balanced cables have a shield pin (aka ground). You can't cut it off without destroying the cable.

>>60967076
What's a good cheap ground isolator

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Are there any chinkshit alternatives to spinfits?
The only dealer in America (the entire continent) charges 10 bucks for shipping to Mexico and it comes without tracking. 30 bucks express with tracking
Might as well order from China.

are the HD600 just a meme or are they actually good? if so, what makes them better than other headphones in that price range

>>60967099
If the problem really is a ground loop, read this first.

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/

>>60966618
>>60966682
>>60966787
Prove soundstage exists.

Only valid citations would be from AES papers.

>>60967189
It's more neutral than its competitors (HD650, DT880, K702, X2, HE400i, etc.)

That doesn't necessarily make them better but many prefer a truer sound here, hence why the HD600 gets shilled a lot.

>>60967302

Must be hard to write papers on algorithms for things that don't exist, huh?

http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=12947

>>60967302
how can soundstage be real if our ears arent real

>>60967321
>That doesn't necessarily make them better
It does, objectively.

I asked a couple of days ago, but I have iem tips that fit perfectly for the kz ate and I get a seal with them

My kz atrs, however, do not seal whatsoever. I tried like 30 different tips that I had from various old iems, and the only ones that fit are the ones that I use on the ate.

I guess I have autism but I want two pairs of tips that work well so if I lose the ate then the atr isn't rip as well.

Tl;dr are there any specific tips that work well on the kz ate or atr? When I use other tips the headphones won't go in all the way or won't seal if they do.

I already ordered Chinese spinfits as well, I'm waiting on them

>>60967504
Subjectively*

>>60967099
You need to isolate the source of your ground loop through troubleshooting before knowing what to buy. For me it was my coaxial cable, since I plug my cable box's audio out into my computer's line-in so I can process TV audio with Equalizer APO. For you it could be something totally different.

>>60967302
>he couldn't prove soundstage doesn't exist so he moved the goalposts
>he lost the argument

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>>60967321
>>60967415
Beautifully rekt.

>>60960785
Sorry to hear it, Anon.

>>60966457
pls respond

>>60967792
Samson SR850

What are some good upgrades from the JVC HA-RX700's? I've owned two pairs of these cans and they're amazing, but the build quality is absolute shit. Both broke and had to be superglued after a few months, and both also suffered from headphone jack failure which required me to solder on new wires

>>60967792
>>60966457
>Under $50
>Open
> R&B
nah

>>60967861
What do you suggest then smartass?

>>60967811
https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

>>60967321
i've heard about them being neutral but also that they've a rather weak bass, most of the music i listen is bass heavy so i'm not sure if they would be the best choice for me

>>60967894
nigger I am not going to type out all that bullshit. I've done it before and no one ever replies. Shill your shitty pastebin elsewhere

>>60967908
>nigger I am not going to type out all that bullshit
Then I'm not going to give you recs.

>>60967908
You're legit asking this thread to not help you

>>60967908
STAX SR-009

>>60967908
Ultrasone Edition 10

>>60967951
>>60967925
It's a valid critique. These threads move slow as all hell, and you're lucky to get even one reply after typing out the generic rec bullshit. I'm not fucking new to cans, I'm simply asking if anyone knows of any headphones similar to the HARX700's. If not, i'll search my self, like I've been doing for the past five or so hours
>>60967957
>>60967977
thanks, I'll check these out

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>>60967811
HD600.

If budget is under $50 would it be better to get IEMs over headphones?

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Why does the PM3 never get a mention? Are they not that good? i was considering them, but after some lurking never see them get a mention.

>>60967988
DT770 80 Ohm/Custom Studio

I'll be going to Korea and living there for a few months, but I can't be bothered to bring my heavy and expensive audio gear from home. I might bring my DAC, but the amp is out of the question and I'd rather not take my headphones. What are some good, lightweight headphones that I won't need an amp for? I'd prefer comfy, and stronger treble. Good build quality, nothing flimsy like a PortaPro. Price is flexible.

>>60968118
MSR7

>>60968068
they do everything well - sound comfort aesthetics

>>60968068
They're mobile endgame. It seems that most people wanting closed headphones are poorfags for some reason.

>>60967977
https://youtu.be/L34S4Tt1EuQ

:^)

M560 coming in on Wednesday, lets hope they are good :)

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>>60968323
Be sure to print out these custom cups for it :^)

>>60968367
Woah, I haven't heard about this, do you mind explaining what these custom caps have on the sound?

>>60968383
No idea m8, just found them on google. Who knows what kind of effects it'll really have.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2151180

>>60968407
Yeah I checked that out, I hoped you had a second opinion. I have free 3d printing at my uni but there's still another 2 months till I go back, so I wasn't sure if it was worth doing it on my own dime earlier.

Thanks though, I would have never found that mod on my own.

>>60968126
those left a really bad sore spot on the top of my head, I had to return

What open ear headphones from the $200 or less list can be worn on and off for a full day without hurting the head or ears?

$200 or less list: https://pastebin.com/CCQCUv5e

>>60968653
Probably 598's

>>60968683
Thank you. I found an Amazon review and head-fi.org both saying Hd 598 headphones could be worn a whole day without fatigue.

>>60968683
Those headphones are $300............

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>>60968722
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06WRMZZ45/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile

>>60968722
The old ones, maybe. But the SE/SR are identical, just aesthetic changes, and cheaper.
>>60968704
Go for HD600 if you can at all afford it. That's the only headphones you'll need, whereas HD598 are stopgap/compromise.

>>60968731
>>60968732
These ones are $300: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ3VX9825

How long can I expect well taken care of headphones to last?
Do I need a special amplifier?
Does everyone with good >$200 headphones use stands?

>>60968731
>>60968732
I can put another $100 into the purchase if they are well worth it. As long as there are good for music, movies, talking/vocals. I do not want bass boost headphones, just ones with good responses.

>>60968783
as they are good for*. I was looking to spend at most $200, any thing more than that, I thought, would be for professional use. But if they are good for everything I need I can go up to ~$300.

>>60968653
Just get an HD558. They sound nearly identical to the HD598 and their price is ridiculously low while they're still in stock now that they're discontinued. Tremendous value.

Same poster as >>60968653 >>60968704 >>60968722 >>60968769 >>60968783 >>60968800


One more thing: does the closed cup make any changes to the sound?

I'm wanting on on-ear, open headphones. Is this a good choice for home use?

>>60968818
598's are open back, over ears. They're good for home use if your environment isn't loud around you.

>>60968830
Something like these? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0126HISOO/ref=twister_B016MAOS5E?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Only one vendor is selling those, and for $243.60.

What makes the HD 598 SE's and C's the same?

>>60968866
I meant what makes the HD 598's the same as the HD 598 SE's and the HD 598 C's?

>>60968866
>What makes the HD 598 SE and C's the same?
Nothing besides the name '598'. They're completely different headphones.

The regular 598 and SE are the same, just different color. 598SR = 598SE = 598

>>60968892
Nice, I'll get the Sennheiser HD 598 SR Open-Back Headphones without Microphone.

Can they fit on any kind of headphone stand?
Do you use any sound hardware with yours? Like amplifier or other?

>>60967898
If you want niggerbass then get Beats and be done with it.

>>60969064
kek

>>60967898
>I listen to mostly bass heavy music
>let's boost the bass even fucking more even though the bass is already louder than everything else as the track is mixed
Logic fail. Bass-heavy music still sounds bass-heavy on neutral headphones.

Has anyone had any experience with Fidelio L2s? Pulled the trigger on a pair for $90, not sure if I fucked up

>>60969612
$90 sounds pretty good for L2's, look at Tyll's measurements and see if that's what you're looking for. Follow up when you get them, I'm kinda curious on them too.

>>60967181
Get them on aliexpress, free shipping.

My poor Sennheiser 280s just broke, need a quick, cheap replacement. I hate earbuds, but I'm looking for something decent for <50$ or as close as possible. Open/Closed doens't matter much I just want something comfortable.

>>60969776
Koss PortaPro

>>60969793
>Koss PortaPro

Are they better then the ATH-M20x's?

>>60969842
Much. M20x have no bass at all.

>>60969776
662 EVO

I'm trying to decide between the Audio Technica ATH-M40X and the Sennheiser HD 558.

Sound leak isn't an issue, and I prefer a more balanced signature. I listen to a lot of pop, synthpop, and rock. Nothing with much bass reliance. Long-term comfort is a factor, but not a deal-breaker.

Which of the two do you guys recommend?

>>60970628
Definitely the 558.

>>60967181
ask csg

Thoughts on the ss arctis?

>>60971526
Better than razer worse than hyperx, all three are bad overall.

Are VE Monk Plus any good or just a meme?

>>60964212
I would not game with any of those. Get a SHP9500 for gaming, use other headphones for music.

>>60971588
They are good if you can find them for like $5-8, wouldn't pay more than $10.

>>60963971
>Noticeably different
Do you know what diminishing returns means? It doesn't mean there's no difference, it means that the difference isn't worth paying the extra money for.

>>60971526
Tried the stereo version with the 3.5mm plugs. Sounded like shit was playing through literal cans.

>>60971577
I'm not asking you to compare it to razer and hyperx but thanks.

>>60971905
Arctis 3? So it's really shit? Thought Steelseries is now back on track again.

>>60970628
558. M40x are very closed and lack much width. M40x also have dogshit comfort with the stock pads.

>>60971884
That's not what diminishing returns is.

Why are Sennheiser products more expensive than the equivalent AKG/Beyers?

>>60972565
Paying for autists to shill on a mongolian basketweaving forum seems to be expensive these days. Also possibly RMA costs for snapped headphones.

>>60969483
>having completely no clue whatsoever
Brain fail.

>>60972565
>sennheiser-equivalent AKG/Beyers?
kek.

Are Portapros good for on-ear <$50 range? I'm looking for leightweight on-ears under $50

>>60972941
Yes.

>>60972948
Anything better?

Random audiophoolery: Modi Multibit review at SBAF.

http://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/modi-multibit-multibit-for-the-masses.2494/page-11#post-67638

>>60972291
Not the literal definition of the word, no, but it's what it means in practice unless you have more money than sense.

>>60973086
KSC75/SportaPro

>Budget
Nothing above $150. Hopefully around $100 mark, though.

>Location
International. Currently in Northeastern US.

>Source
Laptop and phone

>Type of headphone
On-ear or over-ear

>Comfort level
Comfortable for somewhat extended use (i.e. ~1.5 hours)

>Sound signature
Should have a flat frequency response. I listen to all kinds of music and also produce a little myself.

>Past headphones
Harman Kardon AE earbuds. That's all.

I also don't want it to be too heavy. I often listen to music on car and plane rides, but I get carsick easily so a pair of heavy headphones might be bad.

I've been considering the Sennheiser HD25s or the Audio Technica ATH M40X. Thoughts?

>>60973800
>I've been considering the Sennheiser HD25s or the Audio Technica ATH M40X. Thoughts?

Both are good, the ATs will sound better and have a flatter frequency response but the Sennheisers are much lighter and will most likely be more comfortable.

If I were you I'd probably get the ATs for home use and get something like the Koss Portrapros for when you're out and about.

>>60973800
Look into HD380 Pro, mdr-7806, mdr-v6.

Hey my guys, what are some good replacement ear pads for the MDR-7506's? I was thinking of getting a new pair of the stock ones, but honestly they're pretty shitty, mine are already a bit torn here and there after a few months. I do use them a lot though.

>>60952772
Jacks keep falling out

If I put glue on the bit around the metal, will it not fuck everything up?

>>60973800
XPT100/HM5
M40X with new pads
380 Pro
>>60974275
Auray Sheepskin

>>60974485
Should have mentioned I'm yuropoor and can't find those pads in any European stores.

>>60974523
Maybe DT250 velour/pleather?

>>60974409
nvm I just used sellotape

>>60963601
Fulla 2 distorts at high volume. The magni is flawless throughout it's whole range. You can get away with most things with the fulla but it's not perfect. I use my fulla as my dac, and as an amp with my ps4.

>>60967302
The 600 is a much better headphone than the k702, but the 702 has a much wider sound stage. There, that was easy.

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Admit it. The Beats Studio is the best over-ear pair of headphones on the market right now.

>>60975503
You wasted your money and you're trying to convince yourself otherwise. We get it m8.

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>>60975523
Sounds a lot like HD 600 owners

>>60975545
Wow. you're not bitter and jealous about 600 owners at all lmao. Grow up.

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>>60975572

>>60975578
lol

>>60975503
best... seller?

>>60975503
>Gibsmedats mudcannons by Dr. Dindu
>good
Fuck off, nigger.

>Budget
$100, I'd like to keep it around there as much as possible but open to ~slightly~ more expensive headphones if they are worth it
>Location
USA, Northeast
>Source
Computer, on board sound for now. Do have a FiiO E7 I got from a friend, don't know how much that matters for headphones vs iems as an amp.
>Type of headphone
Over Ear/Full Size
>Open or closed
Either is fine, but I might lean towards closed if they offer better isolation from family noises etc.
>Comfort level
Need these to be comfortable as fuck, will be using them for hours at a time + I wear glasses so the softer/less noticeable on my head the better.
>Sound signature
Neutral or Warm/Slightly Bassy
>Past headphones
HiFiMan RE-400 and Zero Audio Carbo Tenores. I've always been more of an IEM person but looking into some entry level headphones. I've always enjoyed the way they both sound, but if they had SLIGHTLY more bass they'd be the perfect sound signature.

I've had my eye on the NVX XPT100, they seem like a really good fit for my needs but I want some feedback. Thanks /hpg/

>>60975503
Custom Studio*
>>60976950
XPT100/HM5

Did I play myself by getting the K712 instead of the HD600? The main reason was because the HD600 look like shit compared to the K712

>>60977042
Not really if you can drive them.

>>60977042
If you prefer the softer clamp, more bass and wider soundstage compared to the 600, you're fine.

>>60977056
I have a Scarlett Solo that I use for recording but I don't know if I need something more powerful or not. They're as loud as I need them to be with the volume knob at about 1 o' clock.

>>60977119
Then you're fine. You might be able to get a slightly cleaner sound with an amp but I doubt it's a big enough difference to drop $70-$100 on a standalone amp.

>>60977042
>buying an open headphone for looks
fuck you must be dumb

not a bad headphone though the upper mids aren't that nice. treble can be a little sibilant at times, and AKG's elastic will die over time

otherwise theyre quite good if you can power them properly

>>60977366
It just bugs me if they look like shit even if I'm the only one who sees them

>>60977656
Have you seen the real article? (vs pictures of it)

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IEMs/in ear headphones for <50$

>>60978286
carbo tenores

>>60978286
>brown eyes
>red hair
Well.. looks nice but unfortunately she's a white nigger.
Anyways, SoundMagic E10 or chink IEMs may be just what you want. https://audiobudget.com/leaderboard/iem/all

I know this is headphone general but what's a quality high capacity mp3 player that plays hifi music? I've been thinking of just getting a Zune 120 cause that's what I used to have before it broke. Was pretty good, right now I'm using Ruizu but it's a bit chinky. Budget is 250 dollaridoos with wiggle room.

>>60978286
Such unpleasant 3d. So many freckles... might be irish or worse.

>>60978286
Waifu.
Soundmagic E10/E30
Carbo Tenore/Basso Tenore
Tennmak Pro
KZ ZS5
Ety Kids

I know this is headphone general but what's a quality high capacity mp3 player that plays hifi music? I've been thinking of just getting a Zune 120 cause that's what I used to have before it broke. Was pretty good, right now I'm using Ruizu but it's a bit chinky. Budget is 250 dollaridoos with wiggle room.

>>60978768
here
>>60914621

What's a good setup to limit volume (dB) on headphones?
Hardware limit, compressor, both, other?

>>60978286
Fill out the rest of the form.

>>60978864
hardware limiter*

how pleb am I for using stock Turtle Beach Earforce z300?

>>60978930
very

>>60978768
>quality
>mp3
>hifi
Anon...

>>60972565
- Sennheiser follows the Bose/Apple business model of refusing to supply to resellers who sell their products for less than Sennheiser tells them to. Consumers see expensive products and assume they're good because they're expensive. It's a successful, devious business model.
- They're much better.

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>>60977042
>I prioritized aesthetics over everything else when purchasing audio equipment

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>>60979490

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What am I in for?

>>60979490
Aesthetics was the last thing it came down to after considering everything else, the difference in EQ on the HD600 versus the K712 is a matter of opinion anyways.I've gotten used to the treble on AKG headphones anyways since my last pair was the K240

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>>60979555
If they sounded great I'd use the fuck out of them at home. Same with these. No fucks given. It's extremely illogical to prioritize form over function with regards to home audio equipment.

>>60979592
>the difference in EQ on the HD600 versus the K712 is a matter of opinion anyways
Actually, the HD600 is objectively more accurate.
>Aesthetics was the last thing it came down to after considering everything else
That's a lot different than when you said,
>The main reason was

>>60979583
Just get a FiiO Q1/A3

>>60977042
Yes. The k712's are a top headphone and the pads are comfy as fuck. However, I sold mine to fund a pair of 600's and I will honestly never buy another pair of full sized headphones again. Unless you're a bass fiend, you should try and return them and buy a pair of 600's. All that said, the 712 are the best headphopne that I've tried behind the 650 and 600.

>>60979306
A well encoded MP3 is audibly transparent for at least 95% of music.

>>60979555
lmao is that dan wearing zeos's autistic 9500 mod?

>>60980217
>mp3
>transparent for % music
If you cared for transparency, you wouldn't go anywhere near mp3, or lossless codecs for that matter.

>>60980237
>or lossless codecs for that matter.

What did he mean by this? Surely not trying to pass off .wav as the way to go?

>>60980237
>or lossless codecs for that matter.
What do you suppose is better than a format without loss?

>>60980237
Not him but my question is kind of related.
Most of my music is MP3 V0 but some is in WAV. Now, i want to rebuild my music archive in FLAC and would like to know what's the best way to transcode WAV to FLAC?
Not attempting to transcode MP3 to FLAC, i know it's retarded to encode lossy to lossless.
Also, good sources for FLAC? Hard mode: I don't live in a country with freedoms.

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>>60980237
>>60980294
*lossy. Yeah, go ahead and laugh at my silly typo.
>>60980309
flac (the official encoder) will do it. The difficult part is tagging, as your WAVs have no tagging. There's a bunch of options listed here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications#Audio_tag_editors

>>60980043
Would you say the k712 are more fun (movies/games) headphones while the HD 600 are better for music

Will any headphone even come close to mid tier speakers?

>>60981037
>HD600 are better
Full stop
>inaccurate FR = fun
No.

>>60980361
Thanks, EasyTag looks good.
>30-50mb per file
Good thing i got a new 2TB HDD and Define R5 case with room for more.

>>60981091
No.

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>>60981108
>>30-50mb per file
Remember to use flac --best. The computer does all the work after all, and it's not like you're in a hurry or the computer won't allow you to do other work in the meantime.
>>60981127
Not everyone has a nice anechoic room.

>>60981127
So there is literally no point to headphones if you don't live with your parents or in some cuck shed where you can't listen to loud music?

>>60981162
Thanks. I use 24bit best setting. The files are just slightly bigger than expected. Guess i'll buy a bigger sd card for my phone or go for 320CBR.

>>60981162
>Not everyone has a nice anechoic room.
Speakers in an anechoic room aren't particularly nice.

>>60981200
>So there is literally no point to headphones if you don't live with your parents or in some cuck shed where you can't listen to loud music?
If you've got the budget for good speakers, absolutely.

>>60981225
>stays at the ideal room position without moving an inch
Speakers so awesome.
>looks down at headphone poorfags
Fuck, I moved my head.
>laugh track

>>60981162
>24bit
wtf? These WAVs are ripped from CDs, aren't they? Why would you resample them to 24bit? That's a transformation, and hence destructive by nature.

>>60981245
It still sounds better even while doing a headstand on the other side of the room.

>>60981299
Why would increasing the bit depth do anything to the recording? Shouldn't it, at worst, just add useless 0s?

>>60981315
If you like your harmonic fuckery (unavoidable as soon as shit starts to bounce around) and delays as you move through the room (sound is fucking slow sadly), sure.
I prefer a setup that's more consistent without having to take ridiculous measures which will typically also include spending big moneys.

>>60981328
Sample theory. Adding a single bit will already screw with your quantization error.

>>60981357
How autistic can one man be?

>>60981370
What should one do if the source is unknown, flip a coin?

>>60981357
>>60981370
>useless zeros
The end result will actually be objectively better if they're not zeros and instead all samples are scaled to compensate the change of bit depth.
Note it will still be destructive to add bits, just less so.

New thread >>60981431

>>60981394
Way more than me. Fortunately, I'm autistic but I've also got higher education and I am highly functioning on society.
For that matter, fuck neurotypical trash.
Retiring to bed. I'm leaving a recommendation: HD600.

You cannot hear a difference between 16 and 24 bit, or 44.1 khz and anything higher, unless sample rates above 44.1 khz are producing harmonic distortion in your audio equipment by reproducing supersonics, which can happen. All encoding music to anything higher than 16/44.1 accomplishes is increasing file size and possibly creating harmonic distortion.

>>60981450
Friendly and helpful Anon, while we appreciate your efforts, be aware that nobody has mentioned hearable differences.
Some anon is however confused and changing the bitdepth of his WAVs while trying to losslessly convert them to FLACs. Avoiding the unnecessary destruction is suggested.

>>60981037
The 600's are just better in general. I didn't really game with the 712's but I can tell that they would be good. They have a slightly wider sound stage than the 600, but the 600's positional accuracy is flawless. The 712's have more bass but it's sloppy compared to the 600. The 712 would probably be more 'fun' for gaming, but the highs are harsh and that could be a problem with certain games. If you care about listening to music on a serious level at all then you should b ythe 600.