/pmp/ Portable Media Players

>>60914621
Nice! Is this going to be a thing now?

What are the chances of Microsoft opening up on the Zune software so we can finally get some Rockbox support on there?

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>>60914621
chinkshit represents, i need to get a SD for this thought.

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Who else /cowon/ here?

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>>60914621
my phone has replaced everything and sometimes I think it's kind of a shame that dedicated devices for a lot of things are no longer needed. when I look at old sony walkmans, minidisc players, etc. it's sad to think that they're totally irrelevant now. sometimes I want one just to have one because of how cool they look, but I know I wouldn't use it when I can have just have one device in my pocket that fixes it all. I miss that era of industrial design with dedicated hardware buttons, knobs, now it's all just touchscreens.

I'm using this. the battery life is as advertised. I was using a clip+ before but the battery died in less than 5 hours. I went nuclear with this one.

The firmware is shit tier and even though I can put a 64GB SD cards, it only plays 4000 songs.

I miss rockbox. Too bad it's dead.

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>>60916466
Forgot the pic.

$50 sony nwz I bought years ago
Had never failed me

>>60916398
I still keep mine around for home use

>>60916398
Phones aren't that great in the battery life department though

>>60916267
My nigguh. i don't know what to get after my Z2 because it seems like spending 600+ is what you're in for with cowon.

just use your phone like a normal person

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The key advantage of a pmp is having physical controls you can use without having to look at your device. Touchscreen pmp are the stupidest fucking thing.

My pick for most my pick for best-feeling device.

>>60917259
Bruh that's what headphone controls are for.

>>60917285
My headphones don't have controls.

>>60917305
Nobody cares about your autistic needs. Most people have headphones with controls.

>>60917316
Eat a dick, you retard.

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>>60917316
>Most people have headphones with controls.

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>>60916398
I was always kind of amazed at how long my MD player would run on just a single AA battery, especially since I remember the days of CD players that would go through a pair of AAs in no time at all.

I recently dug it out of my closet (pic is not mine, but same model), and even got the software and drivers working on my Win7 desktop. LP2 still results in reasonably decent sound quality. Still, though, it can't compete with the convenience of my Sansa or my phone.

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Best PMP coming through

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>>60917771
Wait, I meant to upload this one.

>>60917184
Got the Plenue D, M and M2. Cheap option = D, best value option = M2.

>>60917622
I still have my Sony MD deck in my component stereo. A buddy of mine who worked for IBM back in the early 00s had a deck in his car, was convinced it was the next format.

If there was a way to read MDs on a PC, it would have been incredible.

>>60917771
>>60917781
dude thats a sweet camera. what is it?

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reporting in

What would you guys recommend for a device that works with a music library manager that does normalizing, set song start end times etc

Itunes does all that but I fucking hate the apple sync shit is obtuse.

>>60917771
That's not Fiio X5 3rd gen + Foobar app.

>>60917259
What if you have a huge amount of songs? I think it is better to use a search function (like the one in VLC for android) rather than using the "next" button in a pmp

>>60918715
You don't need a touchscreen to search your library.

>>60918749
Right, but if you are looking for a specific song. It will take some time, doesn't it?

>>60918790
You just enter the song name like you would with a touchscreen. Only difference is you're not using a touchscreen.

>>60918820
So there are pmp with some kind of keyboard?

>>60918861
Maybe, I'm just talking about using the physical controls to control an onscreen keyboard.

>>60918385
What is that? I love the robust look!

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best player coming through

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>>60919138
cayin n5

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Thoughts on X1?

>>60917259
Mine died after one side of the lock on the charger died and it got stuck in it and ripped out the charging ribbons.....

>>60914621
>Previous thread >>???
https://rbt.asia/g/search/subject/pmp/

>>60919645
how much was it?

>>60916267
My J3 doesn't hold battery charge like it used to and i've been looking into replacements. Is the Sony NWZA17SLV any good?

>>60918198
iphone

>>60921238
Yes. I'm using the A-15 (same player just less internal storage) and it's fantastic. If you're in Europe you'll want to run NWSDTestTool to remove the volume restrictions though.

My sansa clip is getting old. Particularly, it doesn't seem to hold as good of a charge these days. Is there a good replacement? Or would it be feasible to replace the battery?

>>60921301
You just need a Li-ion battery that fits.

>>60914813
How come yours has a camo skin? How long does your battery last? When i have an sd card plugged in it only last about a day. Without sd card it lasts 80 hours

Is there a smart watch that can be used as a pmp? I been looking at some smaet watches but they only are useful to my if they play story and play music on my wrist. The moto360 look good but is like only 1 gig

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I use a dragonfly black on my desktop to drive my dt990 250ohm and hyper clouds. I unplug it from it's usb extender in the morning on the way out the door and keep it in my pocket connected to the usb otg and my Sony XBA-H1 iem's.
I use it with USB Audio Player Pro on my Galaxy s4 with it's 128gb sd to play my flac.
It's not perfect but it didn't cost me anything and while the dragonfly is really inadequate for the dt990's it is night and day with the IEMs they sound much better.

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>>60921936
its a ""collector edition""" i think that is the same as any Ruizu, well i had it for two months and only recharged it once, so i will say that 80 hours too.
I haven't tried it with a micro sd.

what's a good MP3 player to buy right now?

I'm in the market for one, I'd like it to have bluetooth compatibility for my headphones, a good battery life, and sd card support.

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>>60917771
My nigga

>>60920912
~$300

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>>60922066
neil gaiman wrote a book about norse mythology? That's like if Varg wrote a book about jew mythology

>>60918861
Yeah Zune have a search feature and depending on the Zune you could just type using the touch screen or main button

>>60919888
I think for 100 bucks there is nothing better, maybe the top quality of the X5 is another case but this bastard have an excellent chips

>>60919888
I like how it looks

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Does anything beat a Clip+ with Rockbox these days?

>>60918385
purple headphones link?

>>60924923
picked this up on a whim not knowing what it was. best random purchase ever.

>>60916398
I have a Fiio X1 I would like to use more, the problem here is that I mainly listen to music on my computer anyway, where nothing like it is really needed.

>>60924923
Basically everything from later years. I don't get why Sandisk's crap is memed so much, they're way too light and shit.

>>60922325
I gave one of these to my sister. Opened up the package, charged it, installed Rockbox and loaded some songs on it before putting it back in the package and giving it to her.

>>60925604
Then I gave it away for a box of cigarettes and condoms.

Fuck you Tim! Hope mom and dad kick your ass! I told you to get an iPhone -.-

>>60925629
She actually wanted one though, to avoid wasting phone battery when not needed.

Just bought an 160 GB iPod classic for my car.

It's a pain when your car infotainment system supports ipods but not Bluetooth Music Streaming..

>>60925681
I still regret using my classic, the back gets ruined with any movement.

>>60914621
why though? you can use a phone that does this and much more for a cheap price.

>>60925593
only one that springs to mine is the clip zip: better display + rockbox support

>>60925704
also to add all the points in op are nonsensicle. you can have large capacity on any phone (sd + large base)
you can choose to use flight mode or similar and have a long battery
you can use a strap for your phone when running, and shouldnt listen to music when do excersise anyway

>>60925724

>airplane mode

congrats you turned your phone exclusively into an mp3 player.

>>60925932
my point

Copied from another thread, phonefags get out

>I'm sat here right now with my phone and MP3 player. There are multiple reasons as to why I will always use a dedicated device for music.

>1) Battery - Since I use my phone for other things, the battery is unreliable and unpredictable. I'm not adjusting my phone usage just so that I can listen to music, whereas my MP3 player can easily last 50 hours on a single charge, it's currently on 75% and I haven't charged it since Sunday. My phone is on 7% and would be pretty useless if I wanted to use it right now for listening to music.

>2) Storage - Again, I use my phone for other things, so storage is unreliable. I could carry around multiple SD cards but that would be a hassle, if I want to use my phone like I would normally do and listen to music I would have to switch cards every 20 minutes.

>3) Sound quality - Dedicated devices are better, no real explanation needed there.

>4) Physical buttons - It's much easier to navigate blind, and just generally easier to navigate.


>You can not argue with these points, trying to just makes you look retarded.

>>60925991
holy shit this has to be bait since all those points are weak as fuck.

you can get sd cards that are 256gb now days
you can get phones with batteries that last two days with frequent use, and portable batteries exsist
quality is the exact same
last point is granted, but you can still bind controls to volume buttons (as ive done) and power button if you have a case that allows it

>>60926030
>Quality is the same
That's clearly not true since they have a miniscule amount of space and cost for the DAC and amp their sound capability will always be a shit compromise with a weakling amp and a DAC from furby or some shit

>>60926126
all good dacs sound the same, a/b blind tests between similar priced things show this, and even in onboard motherboard vs dacs no one could tell the difference. There was even a post on headfi about this a long time ago

Why would they use a good DAC when 99.99% of normalfags don't care and they can save a dollar per phone

>>60925939
by turning on airplane mode to get "more battery life" you're losing all of the extra features you would have gotten by using a phone for music, at that point you just have a really big, really fragile mp3 player

>>60926030
>you can get sd cards that are 256gb now days
I have one in my MP3 player. It's over half full. I have a 64gb one in my phone that it is filled up every few weeks. I archive the files onto a 4TB harddrive. So yes, storage is an issue.

>you can get phones with batteries that last two days with frequent use, and portable batteries exist
So carry something around that is just as big as an MP3 player as a backup battery? My phone doesn't even have a removable battery. I like my current phone enough to not warrant getting a new one for a while.
>quality is the exact same
No it isn't.

>you can still bind controls to volume buttons (as ive done) and power button if you have a case that allows it
Sounds awful.

>>60926317
get a bigger sd card, i have a 128gb in my phone and take my videos and pics off it once a week). I think its got 50gb of music on it.

>>60925991
>Sound quality
>He thinks his $20 sansa clip mac beats my $1.3k iPhone 7 plus red edition limited edition payed in ca$$$$h

>>60926339
The same issues will arise. If I put 200gb (which continues to expand) of music onto my phone, my phone will have less storage for what I want to use it for. Again, I am not adjusting my phone usage just so I can listen to music.

>>60926382
Generally speaking the Sansa Clip won't. It's pretty average on sound quality and has an audible hiss, but I don't use a Sansa Clip.

>>60926384
that doesnt adjust phone usage, it adjusts sd card size. If youre telling me that youre going to have more that 192 gb of music on your phone then thats just ridiculous, but you can still get a 512gb card.

>>60926435
Yes it does. If I am unable to store files on my phone it's rendered useless. Having less storage means archiving files more often which is a hassle. I'm sorry my needs are different than yours.
512gb cards are more expensive than my MP3 player and phone combined, so no it's not an option. The first point 1 is still a valid reason too.

>>60926433
Waiting on dac stats.

>>60924923
Aren't all Sansa's slowly dying by now?

>>60922066
all that shit taste in one pic

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>>60924944
Search for dz9 on aliexpress, or get them from the source (1+8 model) https://shop144392449.world.taobao.com/

Ive also got a pair that are 1+3 from the same seller, theyre the red and blue pair

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>>60927420
Uploaded wrong picture

I still wish Microsoft would just open source all the Zune HD code they had and dump it for anyone to make use of. The hardware was great, the display was great, it was a very capable device but as usual it was crippled by Microsoft's stupidity in locking it down on so many levels.

Would still love to have a 64GB Zune HD and I look for them on eBay from time to time, pretty rare these days and whenever they do get listed the owners almost always want a shitload of cash for 'em, like $250+ which is crazy fucking insane but I understand why they ask such prices.

Damned shame, it really was, had so much potential and just didn't get a proper chance to survive.

Fuck you, Microsoft, fuck you.

>>60927750
Man if only they did, shame Microsoft is still ashamed of the Zune. They didn't like the Zune brick appearing in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 either.

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>>60914621
Since I have an older model iPhone (was a given to me). It works ok as a phone and looking shit up on the go.
But for music, it is absolutely horrible to play any kind of custom music on it.

So I use cassettes, as they give me the highest level of control.

>>60929303
Compact Cassette is pretty cool, albeit inconvenient.

>>60925991
dude dont bait.
it ruins the thread

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>>60916398
You can still use old stuff but I understand where you're coming from, I still mess around with cassettes but it's just a bit annoying to have to record stuff in rel time and just the fact that belts deteriorate so you've got ot deal with fixing that

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>>60917223

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QUESTION TIME /pmp/;

What was your VERY first portable media player ?

Mine was the Sony Walkman WM-EX122 (or possibly one of those kid walkmans that came with a microphone attached) still have fond memories of making mixtapes using my dad's Cassette deck and stereo radio for that walkman though. Sony wasn't kidding about these having MEGA BASS either.

>>60932251
Some toy cassette player; then later a Panasonic discman-thingy, still have it, but it skips too much to be usefull.

>>60932251
I don't know the exact model but it was a JVC CD player, one of the ones with that inline remote that you'd plug your headphones into.

>>60918566
Bumping this

>>60929303
I don't understand this post. What is custom music? What controls do cassettes give you that the iPhone doesn't?

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>>60932251
This was mine. I played the fuck out of Genesis and The Fat Boys.

>>60932496
The ability to not use iTunes.

>>60932557
Digging that "saved by the bell"-aesthetic

>>60918385
weeb animu manga in background?

Clip Zip has stopped holding a charge. Is there anything good in the $50 price range with a good interface or that is rockboxable?

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>>60916398
I absolutely don't miss my old cassette walkman, my old minidisc player or my portable CD player.

Those things were absolutely huge, like enormous.

I use a cheap DAP because it's so light and tiny it's not even remotely noticeable. A phone is a smaller and lighter alternative than a minidisc player.

>>60930175
It's not bait, they are all valid points.

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>>60932885

>PortaPros

best pmp for running? looks like it probably is the clip

>>60934737
Just about any will do, even Chinese ones are decent >>60914813

>>60914621

The only good thing that came out of Microsoft was the Zune

Too bad it they discontinued it

>>60935446
Sometimes microsoft gives up too fast

>>60935446
>>60935673
They even chickened out on a EU/worldwide release of their entire Zune line while the software for it was fully translated in several languages.

I've been using a Ruizu x02 for about a year and a half now, but my battery life seems to have shortened, I used to get a full week out it but now I can only get like 2-3 days

I listen to ASMR every night so it runs 8-10 hours every single night

Is there anything cheap like the x02 but with good battery life?

Related: where does /g/ get tons of music for free? I love my Spotify but I miss the old days when I had a ridiculous library full of whatever I wanted.

>>60936885
on the internet

>>60936898
No shit Skippy? I assumed torrents

>>60936910
I have deezer , but I've been collecting since limewire era and have from blogs, rapid share, megaupload, what.cd, torrents and whatever I could get my hands on

>>60936885
Deezloader

>>60937003
soulseek

>>60937083
The one album I wanted the fucker locked it , what an asshole . It was some flamenco album . It's also missing lots of thinks like swan lee's enter , in a good bitrate

what pmp should i get for ~200 usd?

>>60932251
Panasonic cassette player that still works amazingly well, I mean none of my CD players survived and my sansa b130 got crushed so it's easily 20+ years old and gets used on occasion unlike my minidisc player

>>60932885
that pmp looks like it would have a garbage headphone out

>>60924923
iPod 4G grayscale w/ SSD

>>60937327
iktf fuck those cunts

>>60917259
>tfw zune 30gb hdd died

>>60937923

Can an old HDD-based Zune take an SSD or CF? I imagine it's possible, but I've never heard of anyone trying it.

>>60938090
I'd imagine any HDD based device can be upgraded to a CF card given you're capable of reinstalling the OS.

>>60935785
Aren't the RUIZU's only like 8bucks anyway? Just get another and toss that one

there is an opcion in Fiio that when an album finished stop the reproduction?

Jump to the next folder when one finished and i just want to stop the music when the album is over.

Is something about play mode?

Huh, haven't been here before
Hello, I am running a Sony zx2/w a 128GB microsd, it sounded quite amazing desu

>>60932557
>Genesis
I like you

>>60925991
just say that you prefer having a dedicated device, nothing wrong with that

Who here rocking old phone for music ?

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This is what I use for any music needs

>>60941916
iPhone 7 plus

7 months old, feels a little bit retro right now

>>60942278
faggot

>>60942305
It is retro, like OMG. Phone companies need to create a new phone every 6 months gee.

https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-8GB-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B01LW2F237
is this any good? I need bluetooth and sd card support.

>>60941916
Was thinking about this, have a galaxy s1 somewhere.
Though I not sure it's bricked or just sloppy romjob.

>>60927454
kago shintaro

What's the cheapest LDAC PMP out there?

>>60942704
Looks decent at least.

how good is the output on the latest generation ipod touch?
can it be connected to a an external dac/amp
can it drive a 250 ohm headphone?
I can cop one for 50$, should I go for it?

how good is this? https://www.amazon.com/N3-Master-Quality-Digital-Player/dp/B06XPP332V

I"ve got a sansa clip+ and the tip of a POS headphone broke off in the jack. Anybody have directions or a guide to taking it apart?

>>60918385
What are those 'ZEN' earphones, and where can I buy these, or how much do these cost?

>>60948385
Venture Electronics

>>60914621
fuck you for making me miss my zune hd. I still have it but I dont use windows anymore nor it for music. I do charge it up once a year or so to listen to a snapshot of what I liked back then.

>>60917259
simply untrue, while many may have annoying menus to navigate, simple controls are well implemented on many devices. Zune HD for example has it's side button that pops up basic controls, it's all you need and I can use it without ever looking at the device. Even after a year of not using it I never have this problem.

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>>60932707
'industrial revolution and world war'
buy it from the publisher so more get commissioned pls

>>60948385
best earbuds you ever heard nigga
buy them from the venture electronics aliexpress store or website
think they're ~150 USD

>have a Clip+ with Rockbox and VE Monks (/g/ meme combo but enough for my needs) as my previous phone didn't have enough space

New phone has somewhat decent audio quality (Redmi 4A) and my sis-in-law is giving me her iPod classic (dunno if 120 or 160 GB version)

Should I sell the Clip+ on eBay? Battery lasts 22 hours with Rockbox 3.1

Would you use the phone, iPod with official firmware or iPod with Rockbox?

GNU/Linux user of course

>>60917133
There's plenty of inexpensive phones that can play music for 17 hours without being recharged though which is fine for any human not stranded in the Congo by a crashed plane. Still love MP3 players for the comfort of being detached from the internet and people, but I also miss being able to play a song I think of on the dot.

>>60944915

>ldac
>other than sony
>cheap

does not exist on this plane senpai

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Are headphone amplifiers worth it?

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>>60924923
Sony Walkman NWZX2BLK.

Probably the best high-res player on the market.

My jerb as bezos' warehouse slave cucks me out of music during completely fucking menial manual labor. I was looking at a one of the gook benjie C3 players since I can get that fucker in on my keychain with a pair of false earplugs. Anything to know? Other options that can masquerade on a keychain as a zip drive under casual scrutiny? Should I ask /csg/ instead?

can rockbox go on the ipod nano 3?

>>60927420
wow these are expensive

>>60951428
iirc it's only 1st and 2nd gen

>>60951754
yeah you're correct I just checked

>>60925991
iPhone 7 plus solves all those issues

>>60952745
even the no audio jack prob?

>>60937603
>garbage headphone out
It's actually alright. But it's not great or anywhere near excellent. But you know what, I actually don't care. The audio quality is fine for it's usage.

This one isn't for intensive listening to all the nuances of some piece of music. It's TINY. It weighs absolutely nothing. It's got a clip on the back. It's totally perfect for jogging, working out and everything of that nature.

It's only got about two hours of battery life. And as I said, the audio is just alright, it's not great. So it's not something you want as your main daily music player. But as a feather-light tiny exercise player it's totally worth the three bucks I paid for it.

Picked up a Cowon Plenue D over the weekend and tested it out on a roadtrip down to Chicago and back today. Great little player, all no-frills with great sound and a ludicrous battery life. Has one of the most intuitive, out of the way button placements I've ever experienced, too. Sound seemed much cleaner than my Fiio X1 1st gen, too. I love the X1, but apparently it added a lot to the low end that wasn't necessary.

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>>60953695

test

fiio x1 or cayin n3?

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iPod masterace

>>60955673
This, anything other than this player in this current year retarded

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>>60951258
100% worth it man. I'm using nwz-a15, jds labs c5, etymotic er4s. It's day and night man.

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Hi /pmp/, I was told by someone that I should buy this, but I've never owned a really good portable music player before, so I don't really have anything to go off and it's kinda expensive.
Is it worth the price, or can I get something with the same or better audio quality for less?
Also I could use good IEM recommendations. I have no fucking clue what ones are good, there's so many options.

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have i made a mistake buying a Fiiox1 1st gen
instead of a 2nd?
to my ears it sounds great

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>>60960185

X1's still great, I'd say it was only a mistake if you prefer the aesthetic of the X2, need Bluetooth functionality, or paid the same price (I think 2nd gen is ~$100 street price, where 1st gen should be ~$70 or less). They're both great DAPs for the money.

>>60960166

For IEM recommendations, if you are looking to spend <$50, ask /csg/ or check their OP copypasta at the top of the thread. For >$50, ask /hpg/, but be prepared to fill out the form (check the OP) so they can help you narrow it down.

As far as what DAP to recommend, let us know what matters the most to you (price, form factor, battery life, bluetooth/wi-fi, line out options [3.5mm, balanced, optical], tactile buttons/controls vs touch screen, etc) and then we can help you make an informed decision.

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>>60960166
BEHOLD

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>>60960482
I don't want to go anymore than 400$, and what matters to me the most is audio quality.
About ten hours of battery life would be good.
Around 128 gigs of space would be what I want, but if it's just something like 16 and it can expanded to 128 with microSD then that's fine.
Don't need bluetooth or wi-fi, but I don't mind if it has them.
I believe 3.5mm is what most IEMS are, correct? If so, that's what I want.
No preference on buttons or touch screen, but if it's touch screen I need to be able to change songs quickly like it's a phone.
Sorry for the lengthy post, still really new to anything /g/ related.

>>60932557
That's pure refined 90s

>>60960640
These seem to be nice, but from what I read they should be 25$, but Amazon is selling them for 45$.
Is http://www.gearbest.com/earbud-headphones/pp_641227.html going to steal my debt card info

>>60960764

It sounds like the x5 gen 3 is right up your alley then, although you will need an SD card to get that 128 gb which [assuming that you don't already have one] puts you over the proposed budget. Other options include the Cowon Plenue D, the Fiio X5 Gen 2 (which is still really solid and much cheaper now that the Gen 3 is out) and the Opus #1. There's actually a lot of players that fit your criteria, so I'd dig around if you don't need one right this second.

>>60957763
Nice McDonald's themed iPod you hamplanet :^)

>get HiFi pmp
>use IEMs
>strap a damn portable amp to it
what the fuck

>>60937327
you could just open the chat and ask him to share it with you, most people on soulseek are nice

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>>60961464
Is the sound quality of those a noticeable difference, or is it going to be similar to the X3?

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>>60963306

With no hands-on experience with the X3, I can't confidently tell you the answer. All of the ones recommended in >>60961464 have great audio quality, though. If I were you, I'd search around online and find shootouts or reviews with direct comparisons to get a better idea, unless you live in/around a major metropolitan area and have a hi-fi store where you can demo some units. Otherwise, if anyone here has impressions on said units, they could feel free to sound off.

>>60961089
>>60961089

>>60960640 >>60960166
Banggood has sent mine already about a week ago. I'll propably receive them next monday. When I get them I can tell you all something about them.

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Is this shit good?

>>60963872
If you like classic dark bassy Sony audio yes. But I'd go for another brand for that price.

I had been looking at the X5 2nd gen, but was a bit worried about it being able to handle 100k songs or whatever.
Thanks to this thread I see X5 3rd gen is out, but almost $200 more in CAD. But it seems it should be able to handle the songs much easier than the 2nd gen.

Anyway, my priority is making use of the 500+GB since I have 5 160GB ipod classics I want to replace with one of these or another that might be similar. Anybody have attempted having so many songs on one device?

>>60964312
I'd love some recommendations m8

What software do you guys use to embed album artwork into flac files? And how do you sort your songs for your mp3 player? Do you go Artist/Album/Song?

>>60964832
I use musicbrainz picard. I'd be interested to hear what other anons use though, because it can shit the bed when trying to tag more than 4 or 5 albums at a time.

My system is as follows. All music I download goes into an unsorted music folder on my external hdd. I transfer music from that folder onto my sd card for my player, via musicbrainz picard, so that they are properly tagged and sorted into nested folders as you describe artist/album/song. The sd card is synced with a sorted music folder on the hdd, so that new additions to the card are synced to the folder but not vice versa.

Once every few weeks I manually sync changes on the hdd to my backup drive.

>>60964489
How are you going to fit 100k songs onto any PMP without compressing the everliving fuck out of them

>>60964489
You can mod one of those ipod classics to have more storage, but you will need to use rockbox if you go over 256GB, because the standard ipod firmware doesn't like it when you have more than about 40k-60k songs due to RAM limitations. I have a 512GB ipod classic and it works well for me.

lots of info here https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/official-ipod-video-classic-5g-5-5g-6g-6-5g-7g-ssd-mod-thread.566780/

preferred modding hardware here https://www.iflash.xyz/

>>60965139
Why thank you. I appreciate the recommendation.

>>60965142
Never mind, make it 60k.

>>60965375
Which combo did you use? And is it 7g or 6g?

I suppose >>60964489 is an expensive project if it doesn't completely replace my ipod classics.

>>60965596
I used a 7.5G and an mSATA drive which luckily worked fine for me, but the general consensus seems to be that the flash card adapters in the second link are much more likely to work for everyone due to better power consumption specs. I modded a "7.5G" (ipod classic 160GB thin), which is good because it has 64GB of ram unlike other models. From what I read the 5.5G is also good for modding because it's thicker which gives you space to fit more shit like a bigger battery in the case, but one of the advantages of using SSD is lower operating power draw, so the stock battery lasts way longer anyway.

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>>60932251
>old fag coming through

It has a handle so that makes it portable.

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>>60951258
not really, but DAC/amp combos are

>>60956396
so then... icuck7 doesn't solve any of those issues

>>60965690
Sounds a bit complicated, but more reasonable than the X5. Apparently mine are all 7g, although I was thinking they were all 6g except for one.
Anyway, thanks for the help.

>>60965139
Beets.io

why isn't there a PMP /g/uide yet?

>>60961089
please reply

>>60966260
Because you haven't made one yet, anon

>>60966280
Gearbest is legit, I get my kz off of eBay

>>60966289
I'm looking to buy one
How am I supposed to make a /g/uide on shit I don't have
I have JLab Epic2 Bluetooth headphones and I'd like a PMP with bluetooth and sdcard support.

>>60966260
Sansa clip with mod, cowon plenue d and m2, fiio, and the chink ones under $20. We need a guide for moding old phones into dedicated players and best music app

>>60966322
Fiio

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>>60922066
>toobie wallpaper
>samshit phone
>iem instead of headphones
>carries around a fucking DAC on his pocket exclusively for his phone/pmp instead of getting a good pmp and/or an htc or sony phone

Jesus fuck anon, i feel sorry for you.

>>60923908
What player is this ?

>>60967555

It's the filename, The Zishan DSD player.

>>60967370
there is nothing wrong with iems bro

>>60967845
>there is nothing wrong with ear dildos

>>60918566
bumping thiss

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>>60967947
its like the dragon dildo of audio, you pleb.

>>60968074
>it's a dildo
That's the issue

>>60955673
>>60960079
you realize the thing is like $200?
call me when it's $20 shithead

>>60968403

Good luck finding a $20 player with the same build quality, sound quality and battery life. Coming off of the X1 (which was ~$90 when I got it), I personally feel that the Plenue D is worth every bit of the upcharge. Your mileage may vary.

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Own a Fiio X3ii
Screen is flaming garbage, playlist support is extremely poor and you have to literally use filepaths and the battery indicator is fucky (goes from 3 bars to shutting off in 10 minutes sometimes) but I can live will all this. I usually put on a playlist on random and put it in my pocket for my entire commute.
Also doubling as a PC DAC/Amp is good. I don't have to spend 100 extra on something like the E10k.
Used an iPod Touch 6 before, heavily loaded with tweaks to remove all the worthless shit they implemented to the music app. I gifted when I "upgraded", and desu sometimes I miss it. It was so simple to use even if I have to use the AIDS that is iTunes,
Will probably ditch it when the iPod Touch 7 comes out. I just think Apple makes the better interfaces when it comes to music.

Just lost my Sansa Clip. What's the recommended replacement here? I don't want anything with a big screen, I need something that can take a scratch or two and with expandable memory capacity.

2 questions my fine gentleman.

1, What headphones would you recommend for a mp3 player you throw in your bag, listen to while at the gym etc?

2, my Sansa clip+ is starting to have battery issues where I'm getting 5-6 hours charge from a full charge. I love the little fucker but wondering if it's worth replacing it at this point or should I install rockbox?

>>60919549
I have an a20 and its fantastic

>>60970370
Forgot to mention. Currently using Sennheiser MX365 really like the feel of them but they're £10-15 a pop and I chew through them in a year or so.

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>>60956396
What's that called? Can it be used with an android phone?

>>60917316
>The iPhone user

>>60917862
Well, that was tried with MO-Disks, but it didn't lift off as DVD and USB-Storage became very cheap very quickly.

>>60914621
What fucking year is this?

Just use your fucking smartphone you fucking retards.

There is literally NO FUCKING REASON to use another device.

Prove me fucking wrong.

60971023
No (You) for you

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>>60932251
I had several whatever-brand CD players before I got my first solid state PMP, an MPIO FL300 in high school. I also had an MD Walkman which was perhaps my favorite PMP of all time, but it had issues with the track change buttons and they worked very unreliably.

The FL300 worked great until the battery shorted out against the steel case and it overheated and died in my pocket.
Got an iPod Nano for my birthday that year.

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Well... after some days using this (FiioX1 2 and Shure 215) i am really glad to say that finally i´ve got what i wanted. A really good audio experience out of home. I spent a lot of time walking without direction and listening music, i really enjoy walk while listen to music. Its one of my fav hobbies and to get a better experience i wanted some best gear.

The conclusión after this is the following:

- Any good PMP sounds better that any pone (yes, even iPhone, i tested with my brother and father´s one) dont care if is Ruizu, Benjie or Fiio, even Sony or more common marks.

- IEMS or headphones is one of the most important parts, using Shure 215 discover me a new world of sound, now i listen every bass and even the guy touching the strings of the guitar + using IEMs delete the fucking noise of the city, so perfect.

The FLAC meme.....well i dont really know how could be this true but if you listen some good productions of the 70s you can feel it, listening Rod Stewart's "Every picture tells a story" I discover how good can be the FLAC format, take this album *or Thin Lizzy or Bad Company and listen it in MP3 and FLAC, you can find some different details, is curious.

So I want to thank all the anons that support interesting threads like this and helps to make better the life of others, is really interesting.

>>60971137
That's right.

You can't prove me wrong faggot.

Is there any decent PMP that can scrobble to Last/Libre FM? Or one that can access Spotify/Tidal? It doesn't have to do both, I am just curious. Bonus points for non-android based, because that's obvious that these can do this, even if that would require sideloading apps.

>>60972143
Rockbox players can write a scrobbler.log file that can be submitted to libre/gnu.fm servers. There was also a kickstarter scam not too long ago for a iPod nano-sized pmp that connected to Spotify

>>60970385
Same (2017 edition) but I fucking hate it
>4000 track limit
>Random crashes
>Can't hold button to scroll through menu (single press only)
>Albums sharing the first 8 characters are merged
>Folder view is sorted by date added
>Track name length display limit
How anyone can legitimately claim to be happy with these devices is beyond me

>>60919549

Its alright. I don't have any problems with it. Except the fact the buttons are not backlit.

>>60973295
Shit, I was referring to AGPTek/Ruizu A20, not Sony

>>60971023
weak

>>60973295
>cant hold button to scroll
>album merged
the fuck
in what firmware are you?

>>60970463
USB dac and no, apple uses propietary stuff, i think that's lightning, android uses micro usb or type c.

>>60966322
Benjie t6

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I've 60€
Good IEMs for ~50€?
(~10€ for shipping)

>>60975396
see
>>60960640

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IEMs vs in ear headphones vs earphones

>>60978016
same question, what's the best just to listen to music

Use your phone you dumbasses

>>60978247
no

>>60978016
>in ear headphones
wh-what?

I have $200, what should I buy?

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Recommend me some stickers that I could stick on back of my xduoo x3

>>60978902
Fiio X1 mk2, KZ ZS3 and Topping NX1, should come in under $200

Is there an affordable, transparent PMP now that Clip+ is discontinued?

>>60979508
http://www.strawpoll.me/13180234/r

>>60974472
t. autist

>>60980629
>what is MicroSD expansion

Xiaomi Pro HD vs KZ ZS3?

>>60981080
wats a good cheap music player

>>60981179
bump

>>60981179
>>60981750

Astell & Kern

Gay

>>60979345
damn, those earphones look really cheap

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What do you think about these?
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/FiiO-Dynamic-Earphone-F5-Balanced-Earphone-F5/1473108_32811670598.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.9nsSgg
Since I already have a Fiio X1 (2nd Gen) Might as well stay in the family with the headphones.

FiiO X1 MK2 + FiiO EX1 MK2, should I?

>>60917259
>Touchscreen pmp are the stupidest fucking thing.

I would agree with you if my old jailbroken ipod didn't have gestures set up for play controls. It makes changing songs during those interstate (or a 5min) drive a breeze. Changing playlists or albums is a bitch though. I don't think a physical device remedies that issue.

>>60981080
The KZ ZS5 is gaining in popularity over at /csg/

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>>60914621
This is the ideal music player. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

anything exist that can fully power 600ohm cans and is still portable?

>>60962144
its ironman bro. Do those colors make you hungry?

>>60919888
Xduuo x3 is more rockboxable. It's only slightly more expensive but it seems to already have a rockbox port.

I'm running a Cowon Plenue D driving a pair of ATH-M50x and the quality is wonderful as is being able to use a 128GB SD card but after a year and a half my battery time has gone from 40-50 hours down to between 20-30 per charge. And fuck knows how I'll get the manufacturer to provide a battery or find a repairer in my country when all their support is in fucking Korean. Might have to rip it apart and get a part number off the battery and try eBay / aliexpress for replacement

>>60984784
> work shitty retail job
> old couple recycles a bunch of old phones
> find iphone
> take it home and charge it
> icloud locked
Nice paper weight though

>>60986199
Give it back Jamal

Any good bluetooth pmp for like 100€ max?

I use a sony nw a35 since i killed my fiio x3ii by using it way too much. At the end of its life the relays started to click and it did a mock blue screen when i put it in the pc. I'd say the best thing about the Walkman is the senseme channels as it gives you themed shuffle play lists.

>>60987432
I don't know what your plebian currency converts to but I'd say for that amount a shanling m2 would probably be good.

Do pmps sound better than phones?

>>60971137
Don't feed the bait

>>60978271
Don't bite the bait anon

>>60985353
Yes but Xduuo X3 have a worse sound quality i tried both in the store and is different, but its true that have more space and is rockboxable
>>60982708
of course !!!

>>60987711
Yes

>>60925991
Why not just use an old phone? My old Xperia Z3 comes with a Wolfson DAC and the battery life is awesome when you don't have a SIM card and don't have other shit like Wi-Fi and bluetooth hogging battery.

>>60988664
What's the point? A phone is 3x the size and will have significantly less battery life, also no physical buttons.

>>60988664
Android is still a drain on the battery something that /pmp/ don't have to bother with.

>>60988781
True, but everyone have old smartphone so it's like free pmp

>>60988813
I look at this thread and see a few Android powered ones. What's the difference then? It's not like I can't root it and disable everything I don't need if you wanna be that anal about optimizing everything. This is /g/ right?

>>60988781
No one is asking you to use a Galaxy Note.

>>60988823
I have a few old ones, but I'd never actually consider using them for music.

>>60988859
Even regular sized phones are 3x the size of my current player.

>>60988839
It's like using a swiss army knife to chop vegetables. It will work but it's unwieldy

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>>60914621
Are there any good ones that can fit in the coin pocket of my pants?

I like the idea of having a dedicated device with a simple folder view and physical buttons, but it ain't of much use if it's cumbersome.

>>60989582
Any of the sansa clips will work. Can't install rockbox on the new models, but the stock firmware is perfectly fine

>>60917259
>>60917305
Holy shit, who the fuck doesn't use lock-screen gestures. I don't even need to take the phone out of my pocket anymore. I'll admit its a bit weird to draw a " > " or " < " shape to skip tracks, but my volume buttons have tactile feedback, and I know if the shape works if the song changes, and pause/play can be achieved by simply sticking the headphone jack in or out.
OP you seem to be pushing an agenda to make yourself feel better about using old devices in your own home.

Feel free to use them, go ahead, earn a few hipster points for being one of the few people that still do in public. Hell, I load up my roommates old iPod with songs and stick my loud-speaker iDevice dock in the kitchen because neither of us gets any use out of the devices by themselves.

But don't come here trying to force your opinion on people who don't care to change how they live their lives if they feel what works for them works just the way it is.

>>60988886
>>60989297
I was referring to these, they look about as big or even bigger than my current Z5 Compact and they run Android too but I believe they are being marketed and sold as PMP, which is what led to my original statement of why not just use an old Android phone.

>>60963872
>>60960166
>>60951321

>>60936885
limewire

>>60990992
if you will try it... you will understand, this pmp are high end devices, built to get the best quality sound, cant be compared with a simple smartphone, a mobile can do a lot of things but these are ready to get the best of each song, also have extra fuctions like using Tidal or Spotify. But the sound is really blasting, you dont need to go to the best, just trying a simply Benjie S5 at 12 volume, can hear better thant any mobile at max.

The questionn here is, ok, mobile works and music sounds good, of course. But if you want to go to the next level there are this pmp. Or maybe if you want something that just play music and be light you´ve got a lot of clips

>>60990992
I doubt any of them will be as big as your Z5 compact, but you also have a smartphone that is much smaller than most. Same goes for iPhone se users. The PMP is still specialized, but the size bit applies less to you

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Is it normal that on the iPod Video 5.5g (rockboxed with HDD) loading a pretty small FLAC file takes ages?
Even a pretty big AIFF file loads in ~1 second, so I'm wondering why this happens

>>60988441
This is bullshit. My Pixel XL sounds better than my Fiio X1. The Fiio can get louder, but the Pixel sounds better.

>>60992702
After a certain point sound is subjective

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Best way to listen to music while working out senpai.

>>60992702
>does a PMP sound better than a phone?
>MY $1000 PHONE SOUNDS BETTER THAN A $70 ENTRY LEVEL PMP U R RETARDED LOL

So should I invest money in a PMP running Android (my music source is tidal) or should i continue to use my Droid turbo phone as my player. My headphones are heir audio 4.ais (4 balanced armature 3 way crossover IEMs).

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>Track limits

>>60992158
Maybe its showing its age?

>>60996746
What did she mean by this?
Spotify has a 10,000 song limit but I always have a rotating library personally

Thoughts on Astell & Kern?

What's the difference between this and just using your phone?

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>>61000756
Better DAC, better battery, weights almost nothing, is smaller, nigger proof since they won't rob a broke ass motherfucker who carries a mp3 player instead of the latest ifuccboi 7s+plus REMIX Tim Cuck's Edition.

>>61000901
This is such bullshit. Most phones have excellent DACs even the lower end ones. The headphone amps are also much better in mid-high end phones.

New thread here lads
>>61001218
>>61001218
>>61001218
>>61001218

>>60996118
>LOL ALL PMPS SOUND BETTER THAN PHONES
>okay here's an example of how that's not true
>LOL IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE COST