/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Idol trash reporting in.
What's your setup, Anon?

Reminder: You cannot hear a difference between 16 and 24 bit, or 44.1 khz and anything higher, unless sample rates above 44.1 khz are producing harmonic distortion in your audio equipment by reproducing supersonics, which can happen. All encoding music to anything higher than 16/44.1 accomplishes is increasing file size and possibly creating harmonic distortion.

>>60981459
Friendly reminder, while HD music is a meme, there's nothing magic to 16bit/44.1KHz. It's just what the Audio CD standard does use.
Computers, videogames, DVD movies, digital TV streams and other media tend to use 16bit/48KHz.
Resampling between both formats is discouraged.

What's a good setup for good fidelity and limit volume (dB) on headphones?
Hardware limit, compressor, both, equalizer, other?

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tfw comfy

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The Beats by Dr. Dre Studio 2.0 Wireless is the best pair of headphones on the market right now.
>Fashionable
>Noise cancelling
>Bluetooth with 12 hour battery life
>Bass heavy so it sounds good with today's music, rather than being a boring "studio monitor"
Prove me wrong.

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>>60982345
Sony MDR100 h.ear wireless costs 180 and looks better, has a 20 hour battery, better noise cancellation software, aptx support and is also on the warm side while also being constructed better.

>>60981529
Izotope Ozone does a really good job at dithering. I've converted 24/96 to 16/44 to save storage space before with no audible difference resulting.

>>60982345
>Bass heavy so it sounds good with today's music
>today's music

>>60982271
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>60982405

S A R A C O N
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Bluedio T3. Good bass, affordable, and I can use a cable if I need to.

Help /g/, I'm trying to find the frequency chart for a pair of headsets and my google-fu is weak!

>>60982345
Nothing sounds good with today's music

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Can I get a second opinion on whether this is a *ballpark" accurate EQ?

>>60983427
>>60982958
https://www.headphone.com/pages/build-a-graph

>>60983452
?
Why did you link me?
My question was whether I matched my EQ to the graph well or not.

>>60983452
Its not listed.

>>60983474
My bad interpreted it wrong.

>>60983474
>barely move the mids up
>is this an alright EQ?

You tell us m8. How much is 2-3dB really going to help headphones with V-shaped sound signature?

>>60983539
Someone said this last time I asked a related question and they didn't believe me when I told them that the difference was like night and day.

>>60983427
http://en.goldenears.net/10634 second reference. You should try EQing to both headphone.com and GE's graphs and see which one you like better. EQing to headphone.com's will result in a brighter sound than EQing to GE's.

>>60983597
Thanks m8, i'll test it out. I think I already overcompensated on the treble reduction, so i'm good in that area, unless i've just forgotten what normal treble is like after only listening to DT990's for over 2 years.

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>>60983647
GE's graphs are good to EQ to IMO, minus their bass boost. Their curve, minus the bass boost, is close to an ER4S, which many, myself included, consider an ideal frequency response.

This looks like the best place to ask. I brought a pair of Sennheiser HD430's today and for some reason there's only one audio channel that plays in both ears.

>>60984208
Shit's dead, return it.

>>60984208
Never mind, I'm fucking retarded. Pushed the jack connecting into the headphones with herculean strength and now I have both channels

i currently have an O2 amp, would that be enough to drive the HD600 properly?

>>60984311
More than enough. Congratulations. You have reached never upgrade stage.

>>60984322
even if not an upgrade what other headphones would be worth buying just for variety sake?

>>60983681
>smoothed graphs
Fuck off retard

>>60984416
They're fine for EQing purposes. The smoothing only affects high-Q treble peaks/valleys and you shouldn't be solely EQing to a graph anyways; you should be using a sine wave generator as reference for EQing treble, so the smoothed treble peaks in the reference graph are completely irrelevant.

>>60984378
Probably some good planars or headphones known for being pronounced on different sides side of the spectrum.

>>60984524
Just use non smoothed graphs like people who aren't retarded.

>>60984623
Boy, you sure refuted my argument thoroughly by addressing all of its points.

Any decent sub $150 'phones with a built in mic? Preferably closed.

>>60982397
Every one I see of these on ebay for a price I'm willing to pay is in gay fagmo colors.

I'd settle for the silver or black, but fucking pink and red? No thanks

>>60984962
Do you need it to be brand new or you dont mind getting pre-owned / used?

>>60985001
New would be better, I don't think the used market in my country is very substantial.

I'm trying to decide between the Sennheiser 558, the AudioTechnica ATH-M40X, and the AudioTechnica ATH-AD500X/AD700X.

I'll be using these mostly for music and YouTube. I'm not a gamer. I mostly listen to pop, new wave, and rock. I'd prefer a balanced sound signature. Long-term comfort is a factor, but not a deal-breaker.

I think I might be leaning towards the 558. What are your thoughts?

>>60985112
What country?

If you dont mind waiting and have Paypal, there are some really good deals that can be had from ebay international sellers. eg I was able to snag an MDR-1RNC for a hundred dollars shipped.

>>60985132
for those genres I'd say the m40x

>>60985132
HD558 if you can still grab one at a good price.

It's the most comfortable and best sounding from the list of options you mentioned.

>>60984962
They're open but the Philips sph 9500 plus the v-moda boompro gaming mic are probably the best gaming "headset" you can get, both total around $110 on Amazon

im looking for headphones for a poorfag that i can wear all day that are really comfortable, while sound quality being second priority. im bout to cop the BT880 250 amp and FiiO e10k.

>>60986341
Drop the e10k for at least the FiiO Q1. The sound is a little bit better and the bass boost switch doesnt suck.

Trying to pick out replacement pads for my ATH-M40x's. Was using Brainwvz but the right ear pad was fucked up and it was painful to wear after more than 20 minutes. Thinking about maybe the Shure HPAEC1540, but not sold on them. Any thoughts/suggestions?

>>60986374
Why not a DAC X6? It's at about the same price with more power than it and Fulla 2.

>>60986431
Yeah thats alright too I just thought you wanted the portability.

>>60986461
Oh shit, I'm a different anon that's just giving suggestions. You're not wrong about the bass boost looking good though. The A3 I think would be better for just amping at the same price.

>>60982427
>bass heavy
>music
kek

>>60986341
Drop the amp and get HD600 instead. They're objectively better and you probably don't need an amp/dac. You should spend your audio money primarily on headphones, not amp/dacs.

>>60986341
You might want the DAC X6 over the E10K as it's a bit cheaper and provides a lot more power.

>>60986431
>>60986798
How's the DAC quality?

>>60979614
Because it was obviously the main thing it came down to after looking at the obvious points like sound quality

>>60981459
>harmonic distortion
IMD*

A good DAC avoids it but a good DAC also makes sure that Redbook is all you need.

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What does hpg think of the a550z?

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>>60986715
TFW I fell for this meme back in the day.

Monoprice is having a sale. Is it worth picking up this dac/amp: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=11567

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Sennheiser HD700
Xonar STX soundcard (thinking about upgradign to external DAC & amp but I have some shit to buy before that)

Audeze LCD series headphones are secretly the best headphones for gaming. I've yet to play over 1 hour continuously with this brick on my head.

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Is this DAC good enough for my shure srh44?
>pcm2704 USB DAC

>>60988050
>$7 chink USB DAC

Honestly the DAC on your motherboard is probably better, or no worse.

>>60988077
Yea but the one on my laptop isn't loud enough.

>>60988093
why are you looking at DACs when you want an amplifier

>>60988050
>>60988077
>chink
>ok

>>60988050
Look into Schiit Fulla 2.

>>60988034
Can't tell if you're shit posting or not.

>>60988157
At least it's healthy

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>>60988034

>>60981431

>>Best, most fashionable headphones.
>>Posts Beats.

>>60985132
558

>>60987738
>10 ohm output impedance
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING

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>>60987781
>HD700

>>60982345
>Bass heavy so it sounds good with today's music
>muddy niggerbass cannons so it sounds like shit even with todays nigger trash music
FTFY

>get Fulla 2
>DT 880 now sounds much better compared to my laptop output

Is this some sort of placebo meme or can the better performance be measured?

>>60988050
Link? Can't find it in white on aliexpress.

>>60990515
DT880 250 Ohm?

>>60990863
Yeah.

>>60990878
That's probably it, they weren't getting enough power or the laptop's DAC is garbage. Probably a mix of both.

>>60990934
My laptop uses some Realtek shit. My main worry was that people were saying that DACs/amps have no effect on sound quality and it's a total scam.

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>Philips SHL3265RD
or
>Superlux HD681

>>60981431
what's a decent amp for the dt-990 pro 250 ohm?

>>60991005
>My main worry was that people were saying that DACs/amps have no effect on sound quality and it's a total scam.
DACs and amps have no effect on sound quality and are a total scam past a certain pricepoint. Those pricepoints are $29 for standalone DACs and $100 for standalone amps, save for the exceptional cases of a few super power hungry headphones that a Magni is insufficient for.

>>60981454
I have the same as you but I use a fulla 2 as a dac to go with my magni. I can't see myself changing any of it. Possibly set for life, unless a fulla 3 comes out and has a pretty flawless amp like the magni.

>>60982345
Oh god not this twat again.

>>60984378
Your setup is great, no point in changing any of it. For variety you might as well get some bass cannons for random fun.

>>60991005
It usually is if your the DAC on your onboard sounds fine and if you're getting enough power already to your headphones.
>>60991044
Does absolutely have to be these two choices?
>>60991280
DAC X6/Magni2/Fulla2 so you won't need to get another amp ever again unless you want a big overhaul in the future like NFB-11

>>60991478
Somehow yes, I want something for 30€ that doesn't look and sound like shit

>>60991548
KSC75 or Koss PortaPro. You shouldn't be allowed to have children if you give aesthetics any consideration with regards to audio equipment.

>>60991603
Er, home audio equipment. You're allowed to not look like an autist in public, but if the world's best headphones were pink Hello Kitty headphones you'd be retarded not to use them at home.

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>>60991440
>I have the same as you but I use a fulla 2 as a dac to go with my magni.
Idol trash here. Excellent choice.
I considered that, but ended up with the uber modi because I really wanted the spdif coax/optical inputs.
>unless a fulla 3 comes out and has a pretty flawless amp like the magni.
Sure, just don't buy shit for the sake of buying schiit. Getting more headphones is definitely the better idea, if you want to mess around further.

>>60991603
Both are ugly as shit but I'm struggling with my assburgers now to buy them anyway.

>>60991938
They're the best sounding sub-$50 headphones by far. They both use the same drivers; the PortaPro are a bit bass-heavy and the KSC75 are more neutral since they don't clamp as much. The PortaPro are more comfortable.

>>60991925
I'd only get a fulla 3 so I'd have an amp and dac in one unit again, and I'd sell my current stuff to fund it. It's just more convenient having one unit that does everything.

>>60991994
Also, since the PortaPro headband is metal, I'm sure you can simply reduce the clamp by bending the headband to make them more neutral.

>>60991938
Porta pros are actually great looking. Though, I guess younger people won't like them as much. Great sounding headphone for gte money too and you can buy a great little carry case that they fold into.

>>60992038
Lifetime warranty too.

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>Output impedance is a good thing. It keeps your bass tight and bladibla
>The impedance of the headphones should be eight to ten times the output impedance though!

Output impedance of my audio interface is like 40+Ohm
The face when that makes it unable to drive any cans that even attempt to approximate that impedance ratio between output and cans

>>60992139
Who told you that output impedance is a good thing? An amp's output impedance should be as close to zero as possible.

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>>60992038
But I don't have enough self esteem to exclude myself from the norm with, for normies, considered ugly headphones. Isn't there any alternative with okay-ish sound?

>>60992200
They're great headphones and they look good. Fuck what other people think. They will never be happy until you have a pair of beats and an iphone so who gives a shit?

>>60981431
>Budget
150-200$
>Location
Hungary
>Source
Money's tight so I'd like something that doesn't need an amp.
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I'm going to use it a lot so the more comfortable the better.
>Sound signature
No preference.
>Past headphones
My HD598 just broke a few weeks ago, I'd just buy another one because to me it was perfect but in this shit fucking country it's not possible because no store sells it anymore.

>>60992022
>bending the headband
Don't do this, there's a little 'Comfort Zone' switch on the side of each driver that reduces that clamp.
>>60992286
DT770/Custom Studio

>>60983427
what amp/dac do you use?

>>60992312
I obviously meant if they're still too bass heavy for one's taste after adjusting the comfort zone switch.

>>60982958
Maybe you should fucking what ones you're looking for

Can in some chinkshit recommendation on $50 in ear headphones with similar build quality like the Rock Zicrons?
I really like how these are made, too bad they sound like absolute shit.

>>60982958
Google image search the model of headphone plus "frequency response" in quotes. Click on images of frequency response charts until you find it. If this doesn't find it, it probably doesn't exist.

>>60992679
What about the sound did you not like in the Zircons?

>>60992679
>zircons
>good build
>shit sound
It's exactly the opposite. They sound great while the build is shit. There are many reports of the cable falling apart.
Since you don't like Zircons i guess you like neutral/bright headphones? Take a look at the Boarsemen CX98(S).

>>60981431
Whats the point in buying a more expensive amp than the o2 or magni? seriously? Am I missing out or is it just head-fi nonsense? tubes are a completely different warm sound I know. I'm mainly talking about sold state.

>>60992780
Standalone amp? Magni2 [Uber]'s probably all you'll need.
DAC/amp combo? I would think NFB-11 is the best before larger diminishing returns like Chord Mojo.

>>60992823
Why would you say those dacs are better than the fulla 2 or modi? there'es a guy on here who keeps sperging out about his $30 dac, claiming that it's just as good as anything else. I don't believe that one bit but surely you don't need to spend that much on a dac to get the best possible sound?

>>60992196
The Internet. Youtube in particular.
The reasoning was something in the line of: "A dynamic speaker doesn't stop vibrating when it stops receiving the electrical signal from the amp. It vibrates a little after that as per physics. The aftervibrations(I jsut invented a word didn't I?) develop a little current that goes back into the amp and that's where the output impedance comes into play."
TL;DR it helps keep things tight by keeping a dynamic speaker from vibrating long after it supposed to be done playing.
Or something. There's a reason I'm asking.

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How would you rate the Sony MDR-100ABN compared to other wireless headphones?

>>60985132
M40X of course.

>>60992961
>that image
>wireless heaphone talk

Are you the beats spammer or what?

>>60992886
Fulla 2/Modi as a DAC should be good for most. If you have cash burning your pocket, why not spend a decent amount more to never grab just about anything else again? NFB-11 as a combo like the Fulla2 should be the best before diminishing returns. I don't think $30 little USB Sabre DACs are going to sound better than something like a Modi.

>>60992961
>wireless shit

>>60992985
I saw the beats post after I posted myself.I asked because one of the replies recommended them and I want to try some wifi headphones.

>>60992923
The higher the output impedance is, the more likely bass response is going to be loose/flabby. See:
https://nwavguy.blogspot.ca/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html
https://nwavguy.blogspot.ca/2011/02/headphone-impedance-explained.html

>>60992991
>I don't think $30 little USB Sabre DACs are going to sound better than something like a Modi.
They won't sound better but they won't sound worse either.

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>>60992727
Flat as a board. Very poor highs. All mid.
>>60992753
I really like the braided cable, and the metal 3.5 connector. Is great.
Everyone else is using a cheaply molded soft plastic tip

>>60993027
Ah ok fair enough. Most wireless headphones are garbage, apparently.

Hey there, I'm looking for a new headset to replace my recently broken set and wanted to get some recommendations. Now, I know people say turtle beaches are bad, but I can keep them running for a while. The one that I had been using lasted the better part of five years (X12's).
What I am looking for is a good mic quality, good support with realtek, and an better handling of bass, as I found mine have an issue with them when in-game or listening to music. Mine did quite well, with the exception of the mentioned bass management. The last thing I was hoping for is an audio control on the headset or chord itself like the X12's. I'm just not sure where to start

>>60992991
>>60993063

This is what I mean. For the sake of the argument, in what way would the nfb-11 dac sound better than a sabre dac? isn't the dac mostly just about a clean source? I know nothing about the nfb-11. But it's obviously quality, and expensive.

>>60993090
Buy a good headphone and attach a mic to it. I don't know what it's called but I've seen people mention them here before. Someone post it please.

>>60993130
you mean like a separate studio mic? I had tried doing that before, but it didn't really work

>>60993080
KZ ZS5
Tennmak Pro
Soundmagic E10/30

>>60993045
Thanks anon. This is exactly the kidn of read I needed.

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>>60993158
I know nothing about mics but there's a nice slimline looking mic that people stick to the outside of their headphones. I'm assuming it's a decent quality mic at the very least. It's not pic related but it's close, and the base was plain black, it didn't have any writing/branding on it.

>>60993114
>isn't the dac mostly just about a clean source?
Yeah, it's about delivering an accurate signal with accurate frequency response to the amp without distortion, noise, etc. A $29 Sabre Tiny can accomplish this. Anyone who thinks they can tell the difference between it and a Modi should go try the Richard Clark $10,000 Amplifier Challenge, which they would inevitably fail along with any blind testing between a Sabre Tiny and a Modi.

>>60993090
Mod a HD558 to accept a BoomPro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_fd3PzoTeY

>>60993229
Interesting. I don't really agree or disagree with you but I at least think they're a meme beyond a certain point. I'm guesing you use the sabre tiny along with a seperate amp? I used to use a sabre dac and it worked fine, but I was fairly new to this hobby so I can't judge it properly at this point.

>>60993318
Sabre Tiny is only useful for use with a separate amp if you need more power than a Fulla2 can provide. If you don't need more power than a Fulla2 can provide just get a Fulla2.

>>60986430
Auray Sheepskin pads. Miles better than HM5 pads because they don't fuck the sound up.

>>60993297
Oooh, I like that idea. Does the headset have a bass control along with a volume slider?

>>60991425
Which DAC are you talking about?

>>60993410
The Boompro has an inline mute and rotary volume controls. You shouldn't need to mess with the HD558's sound with anything like a bass control because it's a very accurate headphone. I'd only EQ it if you know exactly what you're doing and how to make it more accurate, but it'll sound great right out of the box.

>>60993424
Sabre Tiny.

>>60993090
>>60993410
If you do end up going the HD558+BoomPro route, while you have the HD558's open to make them accept the BoomPro you might as well also do the foam mod to transform them into a de facto HD598: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kJ7sN16qw

>>60993356
I see what you're saying, I meant using it alongside a separate amp. I would never buy one of these, but you're essentially saying that the bottom 3 dacs in pic related are 100% the same as the fulla 2? not one TINY bit of difference?

>>60993477
Measurements?

>>60992923
These ideas people come up with to explain "driver control" are ridiculous.

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>>60993510
>pic related

>>60993510
The bottom 3 dacs in pic related are a bigger ripoff than Monster cables.

>>60993527
Schiit is an example of how I'd run an audio company. I'd put out some actual good price/performance ratio products like Magni and Fulla 2 in order to feel like I was doing the world some good, but the bulk of my profit would come from ripping idiots off with Yggdrasils and fancy cables.

>>60993590
Have you ever actually tried expensive dacs properly? be honest, because if you haven't then your whole viewpoint is a bit weird.

>>60993627
Yes.

>>60993650
Fair enough. Which ones?

>>60993656
Modi and Benchmark DAC1.

>>60981431
The pads on my sony MDR 7506 are starting to rip. Anyone have any good replacements?

>>60993900
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888545-REG/Auray_eps_mdr7506_Genuine_Sheepskin_Leather_Earpads.html

>>60993758
>Benchmark DAC1

Interesting. I've seen a couple regulars here use that with their hd800. If you're right then it's insane that it sounds the same as a $29 dac. I honestly don't know so I'll sit back and see if anyone else disagrees with you.

>>60982397
The new sony wireless headphones look really slick, never had much of an interest in wireless headphones until I saw them.

>>60993964
>I honestly don't know so I'll sit back and see if anyone else disagrees with you.
It wouldn't surprise me if post purchase rationalization rears its ugly head.

i'm looking for some neutral closed headphones
any recomendation?

>>60994021
HD800 + duct tape. Seriously though, what's your budget? If it's 200ish then MSR7 are great. They are not 100% neutral but they sound amazing.

>>60994021
https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

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>>60988116
Because this one does both for $7

>>60988147
I'm not spending $100 to be a placebo fag that thing is too big anyways.

>>60990597
eBay

>>60992312
which ohm version should I get?

>>60994212
>fulla 2 is too big

lmao, take up an other hobby my cool guy.

>>60993964
Understanding DAC performance and human audible limits, there's absolutely nothing insane about it. The converter circlejerk has always interested me in its ridiculousness. It's the most trivial thing, extremely easy to do right and has been for some twenty years now. Amplification is sort of the same but at least their performance is load dependent.

Tom's Hardware tested a $2 Realtek motherboard embedded codec driving headphones directly(that two dollars was both DAC and amp) with K550 and HD 800. The reference was Benchmark DAC2 at $1000+. Listeners failed to identify the products blinded.

>>60994433
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.html

Here's the article. The title is bad as poor products do exist in higher prices and not necessarily have any additional features. The short conclusion is that you don't need to invest much into audio to achieve exceptional quality. Just pick the correct products. It's obvious that the DAC2 is far superior to the Realtek but that difference does not appear to be audible. Both are seemingly transparent.

>>60994369
If you have an amp, 250; If not, 80. Stay away from the 16/32 Ohm DT770's even if price is enticing.

>>60993626
>I'd put out some actual good price/performance ratio products like Magni and Fulla 2 in order to feel like I was doing the world some good, but the bulk of my profit would come from ripping idiots off with Yggdrasils and fancy cables.
Sure, I'd do something like this, too.
Just keep in mind, they don't do cable bullshit and even their high end isn't a total rip off.
They're really good, and better than products by other brands at the same price brackets. For examples, look into "balanced" or or alternative DAC designs by other brands. You won't be able to possibly try balanced multibit meme at the cost of the multibit modi + jotunheim.
Of course, all these high end products are either cool designs that perform pointlessly good, or pointless weird designs that do regardless measure decent enough for transparency. But at the very least, you'd get what you expect, and not a huge nice metallic box that costs a hundred thousand and is supposed to be a balanced amp but upon careful examination it is single ended up to the output jack.

>>60994578
32 Ohm versions
1. Aren't any cheaper
2. Don't sound any different
3. Are simply meant for low powered devices
16 Ohm version
Doesn't exist.

>>60994371
>placebophile is his hobby

>>60994433
>Listeners failed to identify the products blinded.

Are we talking normies are people who actually know what to listen for? There'es an insanely huge difference.

>>60994212
>owning shit gear and bragging about it on 4chan is a good thing

lol

>>60994573
Bookmarked.

>>60994212
>>60994371
>>60994703
Don't you know? The bigger it is and hotter it runs, the better it sounds! /s
>>60994622
And absurdly good marketing, too. They appeared out of nowhere and got popular with both audiophools and sane people. They set the prices lower than everybody else while at it, and quickly got utterly hated by other amp/dac makers.
The trolling.

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I know it's not directly hpg related, but i guess it's similar.
How is this thing called? What do i have to search for in ebay/amazon to get a listing for these?
Also, which one has the best sound quality?

>>60994665
>16 Ohm version doesn't exist.
https://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-DT-770-i-Headphones/dp/B017TAZ3SM
Sir?

>>60985132
M40s and a decent pair of pads.

>>60994753
Who's bragging about a $7 dac? I just wanted to see if anyone knew of a different product in the similar form factor and low price point.

>>60994731
>people who actually know what to listen for
If this made a difference someone would have completed the Richard Clark challenge by now.

>>60994777

i think they are called "Lapel Microphone"s

>>60985132
558 for sure.
M40x will clamp down on your head like a vise grip. It's made for weak jap cucks the size of a regular 12 year old American child.

>>60994872
Do you own 'good' headphones? if so have you ever shown them to normies? the result is always the same. 95% of normies don't understand the differences when it comes to actual headphones, never mind dacs and amps. The only distinction they ever make comes down to bass. And you can't blame them to be honest.

>>60994573
>Of course, we're ready for the audiophile community to rise up in arms about the statement you'll read next, but it's true that neither an intermediate enthusiast nor a serious one with ~$70,000 in gear at home were able to reliably tell apart any of the four devices once we properly set up a blind test with accurate volume-matching. We actually enjoyed them all as great audio experiences.
Untrained ears that likely were too busy being impressed with their very first listen to decent (HD800) headphones, for short listening periods (vs getting used to either and comparing to the other), on god knows what music, and pristine lablike conditions (not the usual computer where you can actually hear the noise floor). One of the subjects testing was even an obvious audiophool ($70k in audio gear).
A worthless study, where they only provide the conclusion and not the methodology. Not even the sample size.
To be clear, I'm not defending $10k DACs, but there's a world between motherboard or chink dongle shit tier and a cheap, sane DAC implementation like the fulla2.

>>60994953
Aaaaand there's the post purchase rationalization.

>>60994985
Re-read the last line on that post.
He's not defending going past that point, and the Fulla 2 isn't exactly the worst value in the market, as a dacamp.

What's /g/hpg/ opinion on the HD205? Just bought them

>>60993461
I don't know, I kinda like the ability to adjust the bass boost so I could find the sweetspot where the headset can handle it and still give a good boost.
>>60993509
what's the benefit of doing that?

>>60994985
It literally is just one guy shilling $29 dacs. Fucking hell.

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>>60995067
>wanting any more bass than an accurate amount of bass

>>60995067
>what's the benefit of doing that?
The piece of foam you remove is a "sound reflector," so the benefit would be less resonance, as sound reflected back into the headphones would mean resonance.

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Are the RE(eee)400 the best neutral IEM's in their price range?

didnt even realize they cost 20bucks less in the us, fucking bullshit

>>60995133
Well normally an explosion bangs against your eardrums, but I found that headsets sometimes don't achieve that effect, so I have to modify it myself to be proper. Along with that, quite a few times whatever im listening to doesn't do that at all, so I have to enable a bass boost
>>60995169
Okay I see, pretty simple stuff. I'm guessing the foam is in there originally for keeping the pieces in place?

>>60995232
It's there so Sennheiser can make two nearly identical headphones, put a piece of foam in one of them and sell the other for a lot more money. No, really. Taking that one piece of foam out will make it sound identical to an HD598.

>>60994985
>all dacs sound the same
>i just need to spend $12 to get the same performance of a $10000 dac
>its just tons of binary numbers getting translated into a complex analog signal, what could possibly go wrong!
sounds like you're the one rationalizing the purchase of shit gear.

are these acceptable?
http://s.aliexpress.com/NVvEZZze

>>60995226
pretty good sound, shit build quality. if you use earphones everyday they will break within months. you're better off stretching to the 100usd budget and getting something like a vsonic gr07. the new 2017 versions have a detachable cable and will sound much more resolving than an re400 imo.

>>60994622
>>60994776
>>60994622
I do believe the name played a considerable part in their success
are they better than mayflower?
they guy there seemed pretty alright and wanting to give people a good product instead of ripping em off.

>>60995380
>vsonic gr07
you gotta be fucking shitting me amazon, they're 230€ over here for fuck sake

>>60995430
not that guy, try etymotics research mk5?

>>60995438
oh shit forgot to say, those have better build quality as well

>>60995397
>I do believe the name played a considerable part in their success
They're called... schiit? No shit.

>>60995438
>>60995465
I've read a bit of reviews and the re400 seem to be another level of sound quality, and regarding the build quality it's mixed, most people dont mention it, some people say they're poorly built.
I had them and really liked them, and the left one died after a while, but to be fair every single headphone I've ever had has died on me in less than 2 years, or even 1
i dont know

>>60994731
Read the article. One listener had his life invested in audio there. Above 70k in his two channel setup but that doesn't make him a good listener. Check out the paper in wiki about high resolution listening something.

What would you listen for in a DAC? The ruler flat FR? The nonlinear artifacts 100 dB below the fundamental signal? How do you even train for that?

>>60994944
I have. Everyone was very impressed with a good pair of headphones.

>>60994953
I know that it doesn't cut for a study but I it's much more controlled than a sighted listening test. To be clear, I'd be the person happily spending 1k on the fancy DAC2 even if I knew there wasn't any audible differences compared to my gear now.

>world between
Depends completely on which products we're talking about. Top end Realteks are very high quality but are sometimes crippled by terrible output design at the motherboard. Fulla 2 is nothing spectacular. The DAC is basic stuff and amplification more than enough for majority of headphones on the market. It's a very decent product as it combines good performance with sensible connectivity rarely found in that price range.

>>60995262
Still yet to see anyone measuring that. I highly doubt the little piece is foam is making much of a difference. HD 598 being better sound wise is also quite subjective.

>>60995358
No clue. Maybe give them a try and tell us? Don't forget to measure FR.

>>60995596
IIRC someone on Changstar measured the HD558 with and without the foam mod and the difference ended up looking exactly the same as the difference between credible measurements of HD558 and HD598. The difference was the foam adds a few decibels of low treble.

>>60995596
>Depends completely on which products we're talking about.
To be clear, flawed vs non flawed. As you've mentioned, motherboards tend to be the former, while the Fulla 2, inexpensive as it is, will simply do the trick.

>>60995596
>I have. Everyone was very impressed with a good pair of headphones.

You say impressed, but most were probably just being nice, knowing that you're showing them your expensive headphones that are supposed to be good. Normies don't know what to listen for. And the truth is that the differences are small, especially to normies.

>>60995262
Alright, thanks! I guess I can modify the bass via realtek. speaking of which, how well does the headset work with that?

what's a good, closed upgrade from HD681?

>>60995799
Adding bass with something like that will cause clipping distortion. Use Equalizer APO for that and always enter a negative gain value into its preamp setting equal and corresponding to your largest bass gain, e.g. if your largest boost is 5 decibels set the preamp to -5 decibels.

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Why are normalfags obsessed with bass?

>>60995938
Because their appreciation of music is limited to enjoying the feeling simple bass patterns rock their entire bodies.
Not everybody's fortunate enough to have learned about critical listening.

Anyone have a list of starter amp/dacs? So far I know of the following:

>E10K
>O2+ODAC
>Fulla 2
>DAC-X6
>Monoprice 11567

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>>60995938
Niggerfication of the common people. Blame the jews.

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>>60995865
I know some of these words. You'll have to go easy on me because I don't have much experience with this

>>60994818
No DAC/AMP will not sound like a complete shit at this price point you retard. If you want to hear hissing instead of music then be my guest and buy this shit.
Audioquest dragonfly is what you are looking for form-factor wise, but you are clearly too much of a poorfag to afford this """placebo""".

>>60995938
Because other than hearing a simple clarity difference, it's all they know what to go by. It's very simple really. All of the differences we know about when it comes to headphones and equipment are autistic as fuck when you think about it. They simply don't care enough.

>>60996053
If you open an audio file in an audio editor you'll notice that when looking at the graph there's a maximum volume level for the audio file that the audio cannot go past. When you try to boost audio past this limit it won't actually get any louder. Rather, the waveform will literally get "clipped." The audible result is distortion.
If you boost your bass with something like your Realtek configuration it will cause this "clipping." The result with certain files will be your headphones will sound like they're farting.

>>60996038
>E10K
>O2+ODAC
>Fulla 2
>DAC-X6
>Monoprice 11567
Magni2+Modi2

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>>60996053
As for Equalizer APO, once you install it, all you need to do for a simple bass boost is dial in these settings in the configuration editor. Always match the negative gain on the top setting with the positive gain on the bottom setting. Just adjust the gain values to taste; more gain in the bottom setting = more bass.

>>60996038
>>E10K
>>O2+ODAC
>>Fulla 2
Those three plus the fulla 2 are the best 'cheap' amp+dac combos.

>>60996349
What about the DAC-X6? I see it get recommended all the time on /g/.

>>60995865
Not the guy you're talking too, but since you clearly know what you're talking about when it comes to EQ, please answer this for me. My pic related was given to me by a kind anon quite a while ago. It works great, even though I mostly go without an eq with my 600's. However, can you explain why there has to be a dip in the peaking filter? I don't know shit about EQ's but I'm guessing it's to help balance out the over all tone, in order to combat the sub bass increase? If I removed that dip, would it make them sound worse?

>>60996401
Can't say, I've honestly never heard of it. Probably not a good sign? no idea.

>>60996500
>>60996265

How comfy are the HD 600 for prolonged use (4+ hrs)?
I've heard they clamp rather strongly

>>60996500
Different anon, but if you increase the volume of some frequencies and do nothing more, you're also increasing the overall volume.
To compensate for this, there's usually negative pre-gain before the EQ, or the equivalent in the eq itself, which is to bring everything else down.

>>60996110
So that's what it is... Okay I see what you mean there. What I had been doing to combat that was I'd adjust the bass boost on my headset to where the audio wouldn't clip, but I'd be getting the most out of it. It worked quite well, but the issue still stood that I couldn't get the desired levels for in-game effects.
>>60996265
Will that conflict with Realtek at all?

>>60996500
I can't really answer that without your "pic related" that you didn't provide.

>>60996562
>How comfy are the HD 600 for prolonged use (4+ hrs)?
Very.
>strong clamp
When new. After just days, they're comfortable.

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>>60996265
>>60996500

>>60996593
It shouldn't conflict with Realtek.
>>60996562
You can adjust the clamping by extending the earcups all the way and bending the now exposed metal and only the metal in a way which moves the earcups away from the ears.

>>60996562
The clampo is very strong, but you can bend them by thge metal band and dix the problem in seconds. Look at any youtube video. It's incredibly easy and safe. After that, they're one of the most comfortable headphones around. The only others that come close in my experience are the 702's, x2's and the k712's.

>>60996401
For headphones only there are better stuff, if you plan to also use it as a passive speaker dac is one of the best for the money
It does glitch out from time to time but nothing too serious

>>60996613
Using Headroom's HD600 raw measurement as a reference, you should be able to get the HD600's bass close enough to flat with a single peaking filter:
Frequency 20 Hz, gain 8.5, Q 0.65
Set preamp to -0.65

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which one? ignore the $70 ones

>>60996673
>>60996629
>>60996597
Thanks!

>>60995938
And loudness. They haven't heard anything else or don't know better. From my experience those ideas tend to change if subjected to high fidelity sound.

>>60996629
Thanks man! I guess I'll go ahead and download APO

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>>60996899
>>60996613
If you feel like spending the time to get it perfectly flat, use this graph as a reference and make the bass flat from 20 Hz to 450 Hz. Use Room EQ Wizard's EQ GUI to basically create an inverse of this graph from 20 Hz to 450 Hz, meaning construct peak filters in a way that 20 Hz is being boosted 8.5 decibels, 30 Hz is being boosted about 3 decibels, ~68 Hz and 450 Hz aren't being boosted or cut at all, 130 Hz is being cut by about 1.5 decibels and 90 Hz and 200 Hz are being cut by about 1 decibel. Do this properly and you'll have perfectly flat bass. You should be able to visually see exactly how much you're boosting 20 Hz by in the end using REW's GUI; set your preamp value to a negative version of this, only add a little negative gain to make sure you're not clipping, so if it looks like you're adding 8 dB of gain to 20 Hz in the end, set preamp to -8.1.

>>60995848
XPT100/HM5/CB-1

>>60996899
That isn't going to make it flat, only accentuated. HD 600 seals much better on real ears. Trusting graphs without understanding their limits is a poor idea. HD 600's bass is excessive in 100-200 Hz region and rolled off below. At Q 0.65 you'll boost the midbass too.

>>60997125
I should add that if you don't have Room EQ Wizard, when you first load it up and go into the EQ setting, where it says Equalizer in the upper right, set it to generic. Press the EQ Filters button in the EQ window to bring up a GUI for configuring filters. When you're done configuring your filters go to file menu in the main window, export, export filter settings as text. This will generate a file that Equalizer APO can read. Then go into the Equalizer APO configuration editor, click the green + and select control => include. Then use that to navigate to the text file you just created. This loads all your filters at one time instead of having to input them individually in Equalizer APO.
REW is tremendously powerful software and if you listen to music with speakers too I'd highly recommend buying a measurement mic and using it with REW. REW can literally EQ your speakers with a single click.

>>60997209
That's why I said close enough, then provided further instructions on how to make it truly flat.

>>60996613
HD 600 bass correction for equalizer APO:

Preamp: -7 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 6 dB Q 0.7
Filter: ON PK Fc 140 Hz Gain -3 dB Q 0.6

Add a dB more bass to the first peaking filter and dB more negative to the preamp if you feel like you need even more boost.

>>60997209
>HD 600 seals much better on real ears.
Yeah, I'm gonna need proof of this. Using a graph as reference is the closest he's going to get to EQing in flat bass short of building his own in-ear mics or buying that four-figure Etymotic in-ear mic system.

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>>60994777
>>60994887
Nice trips anon
No a lapel(lavalier) mic is pic related
What you posted looks like a headset mic that has been unplugged from wherever it came from.

>>60997125
>>60997239
I appreciate your help but I really don't know much about EQ 's. Like I said, I mostly don't use an eq and when I do, I use the preset that an anon suggested. My actual intention was to add a touch more sub bass and that's it. I'm not trying to make them more neutral. I just wanted someone to explain what the dip after the bass was for in my graph.

>>60997278
To add, if it sounds too thin or without body, reduce the 140 Hz filter by a dB or two.

>>60997384
The dip was to cut some of the HD600's midbass.

>>60996401
In terms of straight output power, it's the best one there though that's expected from external powee. Fulla2's the best in that list that's powered off USB.
>>60996905
662 EVO closed
681/SR850 open

>>60997384
>I just wanted someone to explain what the dip after the bass was for in my graph.
To reduce the excessive warmth/midbass that those headphones exhibit. You don't need to ask here. Just boost it with the EQ and try how it sounds. Make it a 5 or 10 dB boost to get the idea.

>>60997416
I see. I didn't ask that anon for anything but a slight sub bass increase. Did he really need to add that dip? and would the signature sound worse overall if he didn't?

>>60997523
He was attempting to help you by making them close to neutral for you, because he knows better than you.

>>60997555
I love the signature of the 600 and I didn't once mention the word neutral. I don't wan't my 600's neutral. The fact that they have a slight warmth makes them what they are. And that's the best god damn headphone available imo. I simply wanted a tiny sub bass increase, as a test. Don't tell me that he knows what's better for me. I know enough, to know what kind of sound signature I want.

>>60997816
>I don't wan't my 600's neutral.
You're welcome to your own subjective opinion but it's objectively incorrect.

>>60997816
As I recommended earlier >>60997460, it's not hard to test the EQ for your tastes. The two filters created for you roughly control the main colorations of the headphone in the bass region. One adds sub bass which the HD 600 lacks, one subtracts midbass which the HD 600 has plenty. Reducing the filter amplitudes makes it closer to what it was without EQ. Your as you posted was closer to neutral than stock as it tried to compensate for the coloration. Play around with the dB values, increase them if you feel the bass lacking. Use preamp so that you don't end up clipping the output. Or learn the EQ a bit more to make better judgement on your own.

>>60997852
No, but you are objectively retarded. There is no "objectively correct opinion". That's an oxymoron. There is objective performance and subjective opinion on it. And there's always a person who starts this shit here. I hope it isn't you.

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>>60997944
>There is no "objectively correct opinion".
I thought my comment was pretty clearly tongue-in-cheek.

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>>60998027
Well fuck you Sakurako.

>>60998050
I don't see what a picture of a generic anime classroom background has to do with this conversation, nor why it needs to be a .gif.

>>60997944
Thanks for your response. I now know exactly what you mean. The one thing I don't want to do with the 600's is make them more neutral. They're neutral enough for my tastes. I only wanted to see what they sounded like with a littlem ore sub bass. I always assumed that he put that dip in the eq to counter the extra sub bass if that makes sense. I didn't know that he was purely reducing the mid bass to make them more neutral overall. I didn't know enough about EQ's at the time and I didn't ask him to reduce the mid bass.

>>60996629
Okay, so here's the full list of stuff I'm getting:
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-558-Headphones/dp/B004FEEY9A/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1497990169&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=HD558

https://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-BoomPro-Gaming-Headset-Headphone/dp/B00BJ17WKK/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1497991997&sr=8-1&keywords=boompro

https://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Audio-Adapter-Cable-Stick/dp/B007R58NPK/ref=sr_1_7?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1497991997&sr=8-7&keywords=boompro

That's the lot that I need?

>>60998239
What are you going to be plugging the BoomPro into?

>>60998239
If you're going to be plugging the BoomPro into a female 2.5mm jack, use this adapter instead: https://www.amazon.com/Valley-Enterprises-4-Pole-2-5mm-Female/dp/B00C4HXMOI/
Adapters like the one you linked to can break headphone jacks over time, both male and female. Always use right angle adapters.

>>60998325
There was a DIY earlier on
>>60993297

>>60998344
Will there be any issue with it fitting into the headphones at an angle? I'm trying to do what was shown in >>60993297

>>60998523
Oh. I brainfarted and forgot the HD558 take a 2.5. Forget the right angle adapter. Yeah, those three should be fine.

Recommend me a cheap electrostatic headphone amp please.

>>60998705
Find yourself a used srm1/mk2, srm323, srm-t1, etc.

Anyone have an Oppo PM-3 here? I'm looking for a good closed over-ear headphone and this seems to be considered one of the best.

U.S. by the way.

>>60995226
etymotic mk5 is better

>>60996562
The clamping was never an issue.
>>60998763
Yes, especially for a full sized portable headphone.

>>60998718
Why are they so expensive?

>>60998842
You can find an srm1/mk2 for $300 give or take if you just hunt around on ebay, yahoo auctions, head-fi classifieds, etc.

Electrostat amps are a whole different ballgame from regular dynamic amps. They're inherently balanced, have orders of magnitude higher output voltage, necessarily much higher gain to achieve those higher voltages, and it has to do that without the noise floor being too high.

>>60998842
Good high-voltage amps are rarely cheap.

>>60998839
>Yes, especially for a full sized portable headphone.

Did you have any issue with the pad size? I'm hearing it's too small for a lot of people.

>>60992679
KZ ZS5 are really promising, most reviews are 10/10s, I'd give them a try for the $20.

>>60981431
>wireless
>mic
>can use for ps4/pc gaming
>can combine multiple audio inputs (game+skype/music)

can all of you identify the front arc of a soundstage?

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>>60999046
>wireless

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>>60998631
Thank you again for the help. Got my order coming in now. I regret that the only thing I can give in return is a rare meme

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>>60999770
>Counterstrike on a portrait oriented monitor

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>>60999829
Alright, one more for the road

>>60999770
is that phillip?

>>61000346
That's correct

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I have a pair of HE400s. The connectors for them are a terrible design, I've gone through 2 cables since I've got them and need to buy a third. Is there anything I can do to improve them? I don't want to buy another cable that I need to replace in 2 years.

>>61000508
If you know what you're doing you could probably mod it to use 2.5mm TRS connectors.

>>61000540
I've done a little soldering, though I'm not great at it. It's definitely something I'll consider though. They seem to be easier to source than the weird connectors Hifiman uses.

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What do you think about the Beyerdynamic custom streets?
I'm looking at them and I quite like them but I don't know how they sound

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>>61001270
Step 2 measures really good. Keep in mind a lot of accurate headphones have a ~6 kHz spike when compensated by this website's curve.

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>>61001584
HD600 for reference. HD600 is not hot at 6 kHz. This website's compensation curve just sucks.

>>61001584
>>61001596
This is why raw curves should be given instead, or at least both raw & compensated like tyll does.

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Balanced armature IEM master race coming in. Audiophile quality sound without looking autistic.

>>61001615
They measured ER-4, which would be a good reference, except they didn't fucking specify B, S or P, so they're useless measurements. HD600 is the best reference I could come up with.

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>increased the price 50 bucks
>not shipping til Dec.
RIP what the fuck was mass drop thinking.

Hey guys

what is the best way to prevent the plug part of my earbuds from breaking apart?

I had had this pair of earbuds for a year and a half and the thicker, harder rubber on the plug separated a little (exposing the wire) and now the earbuds are fucked.

I always worried about this happening given how much they bend there. Is there a way to prevent this from happening in the future?

I was thinking of getting Boarseman KR49i or SoundMAGIC E10/E10C IEMs to replace my Klipsch S3 pair.

After consulting /csg/ I am now considering all of the following:

*SoundMAGIC E10/E10C
*Boarseman KR49i
*Boarseman CX98/CX98S
*KZ-ATE
*KZ ZS5
*Vsonic VSD2/VSD2S
*MEMT X5

Anyone know the sound signatures of all these other than the E10s, KR49is (both v-shaped), and CX98s (balanced, if not bright)?

Another thing I might add is that I tend to listen to Eurobeat and hard rock/metal. I also prefer an included carrying case and integrated mic.

>>60998978
No, it's a bit snug, but it's completely over-ear, as opposed to Audeze Sine.

>>60981431
>buy a pair of HDH50s
>work fine for a month
>suddenly sound only comes from one side
>this happens to every pair of headphones I buy

what the fuck am I doing wrong?

so are the KZ ZS5 the best chink buds?

>>61003059
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>>61003059
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>>61003059
New thread.

>>61003022
They're new and are an improvement over the ZS3. Probably not the best but it's getting tge attention it should.