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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine.

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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Where Stallman is?
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>>60876076
Eating.
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What are some cool terminal commands?
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>>60876408
less -f /dev/null
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Ok I uninstalled iptables and I still dont have my internet. Im clearly connected to the fucking wifi. All I did was click on the fuxking buttons for my motherfucking firewall next thing you know I dont have internet so I turned it off and then the firewall breaks on me. Now After almost two fucking hours of searching and uninstalling random shit I still cant browse I dont want to go back to windows. Im using ubuntu mate 16.04.whataver anybody can pitch in AnYTHING WILLL HElLLLLLPPpP
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>>60876408
I can't post my command because cloudflare drops the post thinking I'm trying to hack the site or some shit, and trying to workaround it gets flagged as spam by 4chan.

4chan is so ghey these days
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>>60876529
I prob should have used the vm method first but I really want to kick windows out the curb I tried shit from
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1143/how-can-i-uninstall-software
And from here
https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-firewall-on-off.html
Really Linux shouldnt be giving simple shit from something this fuxking small I had installed only for 3 days and it breaks with a simple fucking click configuring a firewall
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>>60876408
alias 0x0='curl -sSF 'file=@-' https://0x0.st'


date | 0x0
0x0 < stallman.jpg

>>60876531
0x0 < cool_terminal_commands.exe
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>>60876585
wew, pls replace 'file=@-' with "file=@-"
copied from a function
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>>60876531
What triggered the error, do you know?
Current list: ls [whycensor]-l, /proc/[whycensor]cmdline
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In vim, I want to search for a pattern that only matches if it is in a specified proximity of a second string. For example, I want foo to match only if bar is within three lines of it.
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>>60876621
Let me try something:
echo "localhost 4chan.org" >> /etc/hosts
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>>60876584
How do I reformat ubuntu back to normal without having to reinstall the whole system?
>inb4 delete system64
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>>60876621
Ok that was it >>60876669

I had to use Japanese slashes and let 4chan replace it with normal slashes lol.
If you try to make a post containing "/etc/hosts" you get "connection error"

Then I was using the loopback address instead of localhost so 4chan was flagging it as spam too.
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>>60876685
kek, added to the list
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Hello I have a very old powermac G4 that I want to put gentoo on but I know the compile time will take forever on that toaster and possibly melt the hardware.

Does anyone know of a way for me to compile the system for it on one machine and then put it on the powermac? I can't use distcc because networking is not an option.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCv4Y0v5PZI
good shit
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>>60876765
OpenBSD has binaries.
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>>60876853
I want gentoo because I want to compile packages optimized for the powermac g4.
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>>60876331
easy guess
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Reposting from an old thread:
I'm getting this problem with my X220 where it won't connect to my TV. I plug it in and the TV gets no signal, but my laptop gets unresponsive too about half the time. I have it set so that its screen turns off when it's plugged in, and even thought I'm not connected the screen goes dark. What's worse is that when I unplug it the screen stays dark and I can't even adjust the volume. Usually I can get it back on by logging out but sometimes I have to shut it down manually. I'm not sure if the problem is with my computer's hardware, the HDMI cable, the TV, or my software. Until today it was all working fine.

By the way, I'm running Ubuntu.
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>>60876765
> Does anyone know of a way for me to compile the system for it on one machine and then put it on the powermac?
Of course you can do that with Gentoo, it supports cross-compiling and binary packages.

Or you can use Sabayon's tooling as well.
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>>60877088
What happens if you just manually use "xrandr"?
Basically you just type xrandr by itself to list all the displays and their available resolutions. Then you do something like:
xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 1920x1080


I would recommend figuring out the right xrandr for your computer screen and keeping a terminal window open. So even if your screen goes black and you can't see you can still type the command out to turn your monitor back on (or maybe even just bind it to a hotkey or whatever works for you)
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I want to drop botnet 10 and install a linux distro, which one is the most easy/comfy to use?
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>>60877329
Tastes vary, which is why a lot of people use a lot of different distros even among interactive end user desktop-oriented distros.

Start trying one and see if it works for you.
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>>60877409
I want something easy to use, similar to windows 10 gui.
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Why is spacemacs such a piece of shit? I've tried installing it multiple times now from both the git repo and my instructors home directory on my school's Red Hat servers and my WSL (which required building emacs-25.1 from source because Ubuntu's repos are horseshit, which was the most ridiculous build process I've gone through; building Linux was less esoteric), and it either totally shits itself and can't do anything, or half of the interface is undisplayed unicode characters despite me having installed all the fonts on the machine it's running, my windows installation, and WSL. Even ignoring that horseshit, it's ridiculously slow. All I need is fucking org mode and an elisp interpreter, and my instructor is like hurr use spacemacs it's like vim but emacs, but at this point I'm starting to think I'll have better luck getting an org-mode plugin for vim, a superior editor.

Fuck emacs. Fuck spacemacs. Fuck GNU. Fuck Stallman.
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>>60877183
Nah, tried that and nothing happened. It might not be a problem with the TV or cable, because the fact that the screen goes off means at least something is connected.
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>>60877419
Find a theme that you like
Apply it
???
Profit
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I need a distro with minicom in /bin, suggestions?
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>>60875887
Jaromil posts on /g/?
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>>60877419
You should just hop on youtube, search linux desktop environments and get a good idea of what there is to choose from
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>>60877329
Sorry to say but there really isn't any distro I would call both easy and comfy right now.

These things change over time. Ubuntu used to be the one, before they went insane.
Right now, I'd say there's a few on the horizon that could be the next big hype distro loved by both new and experienced users. But we're probably not quite there yet.

My current opinion is you either just go straight for an advanced distro, or you install a "user-friendly" one but will probably want to change it in a few years.
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>>60877701
>>60877884
Thanks for the info
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>>60877923
now suck our cocks maki
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>>60877937
Maki is pure, she doesn't do that kind of things
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>>60877951
pure shit
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Hi, I recently installed Fedora 25 on my HTPC and my Logitech Bluetooth keyboard is disabled after I resume from a suspend.

Please help, I really want to use Linux on my homeroom and this is a deal breaker for me If i want to use it for my HTPC.
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How scary is void?
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>>60878424
subjective
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>>60877423
>Why are Autobahns such pieces of shit? I've tried having them built multiple times now by both my own workers and some contractors in my country (which required building Autobahn 25 from concrete because Asphalt is horseshit, which was the most ridiculous build process I've gone through; building statues of myself was less esoteric), and they either totally shit themselves and can't do anything, or half of the lanes are unfinished despite me having drawn all the markings on my plans, the plans the contractors used, and in my drawing book. Even ignoring that horseshit, it's ridiculously slow. All I need is one fucking exit and a couple kms of straight roads, and my instructor is like hurr use Autobahns it's like A roads but fast, but at this point I'm starting to think I'll have better luck getting an Autobahn plugin for A roads, a superior type of road.

>Fuck roads. Fuck Autobahns. Fuck Nazis. Fuck Hitler.

This is how stupid you sound.
>waaah waaah I am too stupid to install some software that thousands of people have been working with for decades
>fuck everyone and everything which is associated with this thing I can't get to work, it's everyone else's fault!!!!!!!!
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I'm going to stick an old computer in a garage shop, dirty environment. I wanna run a live-cd just so it will run browsers/pull up youtube and shit.

its an old athlonXP 1900, but it has a gig of ram.

whats the top 3 livecds for low-spec machines? (noob to linux in general)
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>>60878869
"puppo linux" and salix are two hot contenders
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>spend all night setting up nextcloud
>realize i dont really need it when its all done
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>>60878869
Puppy Linux
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>>60877707

You install any distribution and then install minicom.
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>>60878906
>>60879425

There is no reason why those would run any better compared to something like Ubuntu with the same software on top of it.
Stop recommending shitty niche distributions, retards. Chances are you've never used those yourself and you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
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does nvidia not work with GNU/Linux or something? every single liveCD i've tried on my desktop blackscreens and
nomodeset
doesn't fix it.
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>>60879514
Maybe because this is a distro meant for live image usage, it's lightweight af and will run on shitty hardware. Not something you can say for Ubuntu (Xubuntu or Lubuntu may work tho)
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>>60879514

I didn't get specific, but the box has no HDD. don't need people able to mess it up, or bother having it fail.
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>>60879525

Why do you think a live session would run faster? Not only will running it from a shitty USB 2.0 device (at best) be slower than running it from an SATA2 hard drive, but you can use the same software on it as on your shitty niche distributions. See this >>60879425:

>vlc
>palemoon
>lxde what it appears to be
None of those are Puppy Linux exclusive.
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>>60879514
>hurrdurr everyone should use Ubuntu because I say so

Fuck off, idiot.
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>>60879655

If that's what you got from that, then your reading comprehension is on level with a 2nd grader.

>oh no someone didn't mention my distribution and they mentioned this other sensible choice for beginners but not even that definitely
>i don't like this how dare they?!

On top of that you haven't provided any actual arguments or data which would back up the fact that those shitty niche distributions would run faster than one of the major distributions running the same software. Hint: you can't because that's impossible.

Sorry, but I think it's you who should kill himself.
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>>60879743
And if you think Ubuntu would be even remotely appropriate for the use-case presented, you're either illiterate or so far up your own ass that you can't comprehend that not everyone needs to use Ubuntu. So go fuck yourself with a rake.
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How much software is available on Solus nowadays? I want a decent "just werks" distribution with a good MATE desktop support for all of my laptops. I do a ton of programming and need loads of software for that so I'm currently using Ubantoo MATE on all of my devices.
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>>60879763

Have you still not figured out that Ubuntu was just an example? I don't even use Ubuntu, but I can claim that there's no reason to use those shitty niche distributions ,especially not if idiots like you think they would "run faster".

Why wouldn't Ubuntu be appropriate? Do you have any actual arguments or just failed reading comprehension?
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>>60879767

Why do you think Solus would have "better" Mate "support" than Ubuntu or any other distribution? Assuming you use the same version, it's exactly the same software.

https://git.solus-project.com/?ofs=2050
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>>60879779
>Have you still not figured out that Ubuntu was just an example?
...do you not understand what "example" means? Do you even read your OWN posts? How is it you're even able to type with so much brain damage?

>I don't even use Ubuntu, but I can claim that there's no reason to use those shitty niche distributions ,especially not if idiots like you think they would "run faster".
That's only because you're a fucking idiot. How are you even in this thread if you don't know what "live-CD" means?
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>>60879655
>hurr durr Noobuntu for newbies XD
Stop your life now.
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>>60879809
Not even remotely what I said, retard. It's just not a good choice if you need LIGHT-WEIGHT DISTRO BEING RUN FROM A LIVE-CD
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>>60879802

>How are you even in this thread if you don't know what "live-CD" means?

There was no reason for him to stick to a distribution that runs from RAM. See his original post.
Then idiots like you come in and suggest idiotic solutions based on myths and assumptions (PuppyLinux and other stuff is faster than [insert major distribution here]). Only later did he state that his computer has no hard drive. Not even then are those distributions warranted, because you can install distributions on USB flash drives the same way you can on hard drives. Bottom line, he won't see any improvement when running Firefox and browsing YouTube on PuppyLinux compared to any other distribution on the same hardware.
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>>60879851
He can either have something that does what he wants out of the box, or he can take something that's meant for a different use-case entirely and spend several hours customizing it. Bottom line is that only a retard would insist the latter is a reasonable choice unless he just wants to mess around for fun.

Now that we're clear on that, just fuck off and kill yourself, you retarded waste of oxygen.
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>>60879868

So... do you have data which proves that Firefox or similar software runs significantly faster on PuppyLinux or any of those similar distributions? Because that's the point here in case you missed it.
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>>60879887
No, but the recommended specs for ubuntu include minimum of 2 GB of RAM, so I would guess that it won't run too well with half of that. Feel free to prove me wrong, though.
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>>60879954

There is something called the Ubuntu net-installer. No one is forcing you to use Unity.
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>bluetooth support in Linux used to be pretty good
>BlueZ 4.0 revamp in 2008 broke everything
>NINE YEARS LATER
>still borked beyond belief

Why is this allowed?
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>>60879964
>no harddrive
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>>60879792
Both Ubuntu and Solus have good MATE support. I didn't say one would have better than the other. Both have a maintainer for the MATE version. Both have nice MATE defaults and software to improve the MATE experience. F.ex. Ubuntu MATE comes with stuff like mate-menu and Solus with brisk-menu to improve the MATE experience. Both also include MATE Tweak and other crap that's usually not in any repositories and has to be compiled. I have so many devices I don't have time for configuring and compiling.
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>>60879979

That wasn't known when the question was posted. Regardless of that, the point that one should use those shitty distributions gets made all the time whenever someone mentions low-end hardware.
He has an USB flash drive.
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>>60879964
The whole point is to run a distro from a usb stick or a DVD/CD. It also needs to be as lightweight as possible because oh his shit specs.
What is it that you don't understand?

>>60880008
The original post >>60878869 literally said he want's a LIVE-CD distro. Having or not having a HDD doesn't matter if you specifically ask for something to run from a live cd.
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>>60879999
thanks, nice digits
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Is there a way to uninstall unity from ubuntu 16.04 after installing xfce, without fucking it up?
Tried to just purge unity, but got a "screen, graphics card etc not detected, system running in low-graphics mode what do you want to do?" and then some options, but compltetely unrespoponsive.
Had to reinstall unity, and everything works fine.

I could just nuke everything and install xubuntu from a live-cd, if there's no way to remove unity.
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>>60880317
Maybe post the list of packages that get uninstalled when you remove unity? It shouldn't be hard to locate the shit you need to keep. Then marking those packages as manually installed may be enough to keep them installed.
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>>60880317
Did you remember to log out and switch to xfce first?
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>>60880380
Yes sure.
>>60880359
True. Think I just install xubuntu then, it's a clean install anyway. Just having unity laying around bothers me, and it sounds like it'll be more work to uninstall unity.
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>when people unironically add a copyright to their dotfiles
github is getting worse every day
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>>60880709

>calling it dotfiles
>thinking the host of those files has anything to do with the people's behvaviour
>thinking a license's only benefit is to prevent stealing and not preventing liability from your computer exploding when running my configuration file for a taskbar
>thinking that people hosting things on a file host is in any way contributing to said filehost's greatness

Idiot.
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>>60880751
- github is shite ootb, even without normies using it
- making dotfiles proprietary is literally retarded with no benefit, why even uploading
- github not teaching people about correct licensing actually created stupid usage
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>>60880709
really? post a link
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>>60877329
There's no easy to use distro, you should choose one based on people you know who can help you with Linux.
If you don't know anyone, get Ubuntu because it has largest install base and increases your chances on getting help with it.
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>>60880709
Technically, adding a copyright notice (without any license) does literally nothing. Stuff you post online without a free license is (c) copyright, You, automatically.
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>>60880809
not sure with that, there was a controversity with githubs recent TOS changes, which grants github some permissive rights
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>>60880785

>- github is shite ootb, even without normies using it
Why is it shit?

>- making dotfiles proprietary is literally retarded with no benefit, why even uploading
Who said anything about making it proprietary?

>- github not teaching people about correct licensing actually created stupid usage
That's not a file host's responsibility, but they recommend licensing anything you upload there.
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>>60880751
/thread
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>>60880785
I publish mine under the GPLv3. Therefore they aren't proprietary.
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Hi guys, i have a question.
Ok so my mouse scrolling is kinka weird on my debian, let me explain:
>on windows
smooth, and in an internet browser, just incredibly smooth and fast, ok
>on my gnu
smooth too, but in an internet browser not really and the speed change cause the wheel itself is not mechanicly smooth and i have to roll a lot.
My problem is quite solved with an add_on, but i would like to know if there is something i can modify deep in my browser instead of just go to /firefox_menu/options/advanced/general/smooth scrolling (disabled now cause the add_on is better).
Thank you.
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Anyway of using 4chan x with qutebrowser? Or anything like it?
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>>60881053
>using windows

check the archwiki for firefox, theres a section for scrolling problems
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What distro should I install on a 2012 MacBook Air? I have used Debian and Ubuntu so I know my way around Linux.
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I want to dual boot Arch and Windows and I'm struggling to understand how to do that from the installer, since I've never partitioned a disk before. Specifically, I don't understand how to resize the Windows partition in order to free space for the Arch partitions. Any tips?
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>>60881553
My tip is to use your favourite search engine for 10 seconds, and maybe to read some wikipedia articles on that.
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>>60881529
GNU/Linux*
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>>60881368
I will do that, thx.
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How do I correctly setup permissions for my websites /public_html folder?

Now it's nginix:nginx, what I want to do is to make another user, let's say "john", would be able to edit/delete the files in that folder.

Is adding user "john" to group 'nginx' and
chmod -R g+rw /public_html

is a good idea? Is this the correct way?
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>>60882214
Sounds good. That's what I'd do at least.
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What mail server config would you recommend for personal use? I was using dovecot + postfix smtp/imap with startssl.com certs but it was driving me mad all the time
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>>60881553
You can just boot from a systemrescuecd liveusb and use gparted, which is a partitioning tool with a gui, where resizing a partition is a matter of right click → resize
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>>60882630
I tried to load the GParted live CD, but it doesn't seem to load past a tty for some reason. I just want to know how to resize a given partition using one of the tools in the installer, because the wiki isn't very clear in this regard.
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Hey g, brainlet ricer here. How do I make lemonbar not dissapear I want to press screenshot button? Please no bully.
 lcher(){
echo '%{A:exec scrot:}  %{A}%{A:wpg:}  %{A}'
}
loops=$(( loops + 1 ))
echo "%{l}$(ws)$(mus)%{c}$(lcher)%{r}$(bat)$(clock)"
sleep 0.1

done | lemonbar -g 1366x24 -B "#2f1e2e" -F "#D2D1CF" -f "Font Awesome:size=11" -f "Carlito:size=11" -p | \
while read line; do eval "$line"; done &
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>>60879887

I never mentioned speed in my original criteria, tho, even if you are sticking to my unammended op. So... mind the claims of reading comprehension, when you're inserting words that were never there...

>>60879425

Puppy's website irritates me, they're so focused on naming convention. how do I pick from the ubuntu or slack puppy, based on no other criteria?
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>>60882761
Maybe start with a distro that actually has a GUI installer so you can learn the basics before fucking around with distros involving more user interaction for menial bullshit.
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>>60877329
people saying that there are no easy to use distros are wrong, Ubuntu is fine. just works. try for yourself. only problem you might have would be video or wifi drivers. sometimes it just works and sometimes the drivers aren't there yet. just try and see for yourself.
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>>60882766
remove the while, pipe to | sh
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>>60882803
>12 hours later
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>>60882898
are you in a hurry friend?
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>>60882846
you mean like this?
 done | lemonbar -g 1366x24 -B "#2f1e2e" -F "#D2D1CF"  -f "Font Awesome:size=11" -f "Carlito:size=11" -p | sh

It still quits this way.
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>>60882761
Type
man fdisk
or
man parted

If you're too stupid to read those and use google, just don't touch them at all or arch because you'll fuck up your system
Get a partitioning tool with GUI, if "gparted livecd" doesn't boot for you "for some reason" (though it probably prints out an error or something akin to "press any key to launch graphical mode"), try SystemRescueCD instead, or just get Ubuntu installer, I think it had a partitioning GUI too
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Now that Debian is moving to Stretch, should we expect Devuan to quickly move from Jessie to Ascii? Devuan project is doing great, but it will be too far behind if they keep up Jessie for another year
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>>60883023
Synaptic lists 381 packages with "devuan" string in it's version number. And that includes a solid 100 of task-local-language packages for installing in non-english.

So at a stretch they have roughly 200 packages to worry about. And since upstream Debian is already preparing for the switch and finalizing Stretch it's not far fetched to assume Devuan team already has most (if not) all the packages de-systemdized and ready for release.

Also its never a good idea to upgrade day one. Bugs happen. Wait for a few weeks before upgrading
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I'm bored. Which book should I read?
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>>60882766
>>>/r/eddit
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>>60883190
https://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs3-hardcover.pdf
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>>60883230
nice
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I got a new laptop about a year ago, and I realized my old one with a busted hard drive is going to waste. I figure it would make a good Linux test machine.

What distro would you suggest for a laptop with a B800 (1.5 Ghz) processor and 2GB of DDR3 Memory.

I was looking at Ubuntu and it looks like they want a 2 Ghz processor and 2 GB RAM. I have the RAM but just barely.
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>>60883272
Install Devuan (no Cucknonical, no systemd)
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>>60883272
install devuan
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>>60882766
your script makes no sense
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How can I make sure that Ubuntu will run fine on my laptop?
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>>60883382
install it twice to harden the installation
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>>60883272
>What distro would you suggest for a laptop with a B800 (1.5 Ghz) processor and 2GB of DDR3 Memory.
You're not going to have a fun experience on any modern desktop environment. I use GNU/Linux on a 2007 laptop with a dual core 1.8Ghz CPU.
Slowness sometimes kill me, I was forced to move to absolute-bare-minimum window manager with few lighweight tools to squeeze the most out of the machine.

If you need a full desktop environment I definitely recommend LXDE above everything else.
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>>60883382
Oh it will run fine, so fine that you won't even notice all the little amazonian gnomes playing behind with your data
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>>60883272
lubuntu or devuan
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>>60883272
devuan + xfce = patrician choice
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>>60882803
Thanks, I'm using a desktop(lan cable) and my GPU is a RX 480.
I think AMD has linux drivers for it.
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brew install ffmpeg
always overheats the shit out of my mac when it gets to
make install
. Is there a way to throttle its CPU usage?
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>>60883599
Pretty sure mac has a nice command so you could use that
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>>60883599
>make install
It's compiling. Just limit the amount of threads.
What compiler are you using.
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>>60875887
Is Alpine a good distro for beginners?
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>>60883599
>brew
leave this thread right now
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>>60883644
No.
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>>60883644
No
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>>60883644
maybe
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>>60883644
nope
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>>60883657
macOS is unix too
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>>60883710
But GNU/Linux isn't. And it's GNU/Linux thread.
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>>60883618
Thanks. It does.
https://ss64.com/bash/nice.html

How does the priority value translate in to CPU%?
Would
sudo nice -n 0 brew install ffmpeg
limit the process and all the processes it creates to somewhere around 50%?

>>60883632
>What compiler are you using.
Not sure desu. But when it's running I see it switching between clang and ruby processes if that helps.

>>60883657
Why wouldn't I ask people who know their way around unix and package managers?
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>>60883710
>go to bsd, rape the whole family, get UNIX cert
>look mom, I'm unix too
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>>60883722
Do you have any clue how a CPU works?
You're using clang. Google how to limit the amount of threads clang uses during compilation. It should be global variable.
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>>60883722
Unix is a system from the 70s.
UNIX is a trademark, unrelated to GNU or Linux.
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>>60883435

I thought maybe it was just me. So its pretty much outdated then if you want everything to function smoothly.
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>>60883752
>google
botnet
>>
How about Slackware?
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>>60883782
Granpa's favorite.
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>>60883752
>Do you have any clue how a CPU works?
not really
>You're using clang. Google how to limit the amount of threads clang uses during compilation. It should be global variable.
Thanks, will do.
How is clang compared to the alternatives in terms of performance? Would you recommend other compilers?
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>>60883778
You're already using macOS you little shithead.
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>>60883816
why are you so angry?
is everything ok anon?
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>>60883843
take your proprietary problems and gtfo
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>>60883814
clang is developed by apple, that's why macs ship with it.
it's a pisspoor excuse of a competition to GCC.
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>>60883710
GNU is Not Unix. It's literally the name.
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>>60883870
I even have gcc. Maybe I should figure out how to get homebrew to use it instead of clang.
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>>60883874
thats a joke saying its unix
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>>60883887
What you really should do is get rid of the malware on your computer "macOS".
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Has science gone too far?
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Hey guys, I'm trying to install my internet on Linux (LTS) but when I double click the exe I always get this error. Any hints?
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>>60883978
this is shopped, I can tell from the pixels
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>>60884004
https://www.redbubble.com/people/finesseapparel/works/20096433-richard-stallman-gimp?p=t-shirt&style=womens&body_color=eggplant&size=small&print_location=front
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>>60884004
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Photoshop
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>>60881368
I did something else, in the about:config of firefox:
>layers.acceleration.force-enabled /true
Since last year, internet is finally comfy.
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>>60883906
brb, installing gentoo
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Is there anything better than WINE for some games?
I'm not expecting anything major. I just found that some games in Steam don't have a Linux version so I'm tempted to instal it through WINE for a few things.
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which WM will make me feel better than everyone else?
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>>60884133
>Is there anything better than WINE for some games?
Only Windows
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>>60884133
install gentoo, it supports windows games nativly
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>>60884141
fluxbox
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>>60884158
I was hoping so. WINE seems to run most anything I need just fine.

>>60884198
Thanks, I'll look into this too.
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>>60884133
>Is there anything better than WINE for some games?
Not playing games.
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>>60884141
kde
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>>60884141
ratpoison
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>>60884198
Why not openbox?
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>>60884384
I dont feel the need to learn a scripting language to do basic configuration changes
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>>60884391
It's just xml.
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>>60884397
I dont feel the need to learn a scripting language to do basic configuration changes
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>>60884402
a) xml isn't a scripting language
b) autism
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>>60884402
XML is a markup language, not a scripting language

Seriously, you sound pretty dumb, just install Ubuntu & GNOME and get a Mac OS X skin for it, you'll feel special enough and won't hurt yourself in the process
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>>60884411
Left.Openbox config,a scripting language.Non-plaintext
Right.Fluxbox config, plain text
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>>60884428
I dont feel the need to learn a markup language to do basic configuration changes
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>>60884446
>solarized
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>>60884141
i3 with arch
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>>60884489
I'm also on Arch with i3.
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>>60884479
how did it even bacome so popular?
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>>60884479
>point is broken
>points out semantics
K
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>>60884520
guess why is arch+i3 so popular
guess why powerline is so popular
dank memes
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>>60884541
>point is broken
Which point? You confirmed youself being too retarded to use a markup language which is literally designed for humans.
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>>60884454
Knowing some stuff like xml, json, shell etc is pretty useful among computers tho.
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>>60884578
Why do i need to learn a language to make basic configuration changes?
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>>60884612
What do you need to learn? Reading?
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>>60884454
You don't have to learn it because it's human readable plain-text and follows rules even a child can understand just by looking at it

If you have to "learn it", you're literally retarded
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>>60884624
If its not plain text, its wasting time
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>>60884520
it's unorthodox ie catches your eye and has dubious scientific backing behind it so everyone can easily defend their choices.
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>>60884642
>yfw you realize your wm is binary and wasted time
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>>60884668
>still has no warrented points
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>>60884666
Makes sense, as always, satan.
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>>60884642
XML is plaintext, retard.
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>>60884751
No,it isnt, you have to ahear to a scripting language to make any customizations.
I cant just type
make.windows.title.be.color Red
You have to type
<make><windows><title><be><color> Red</color></be></title></windows></make>

Way more convoluted then just plaintext
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Running any git command crashes my terminal, I've tried it with other terminals too (I use termite). I've also tried reinstalling git and installing git-git from the AUR. Help?
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>>60884785
Arch is for advanced users only.
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>>60884785
use gdb
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>>60884785
Run a terminal from terminal and run git command from it, and see if it segfaults or crashes with some reasonable error
Delete your git configuration

But yeah, Arch is for advanced users only
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>>60884785
install ubunut
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>>60884785
Remove your git config and maybe unset PAGER.
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>>60884785
Install oh-my-git-git from the AUR.
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>>60884785
install gentoo
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I ran termite from termite and ran git, the only output when it crashed was:
(termite:23163): GLib-WARNING **: GChildWatchSource: Exit status of a child process was requested but ECHILD was received by waitpid(). Most likely the process is ignoring SIGCHLD, or some other thread is invoking waitpid() with a nonpositive first argument; either behavior can break applications that use g_child_watch_add()/g_spawn_sync() either directly or indirectly.

Also it looks like I don't have a config, no directory in ~/.config and no ~/.git
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>>60884785
>Arch
>command crashes
That's normal.
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>>60884857
oh-my-git-git doesn't exist, I got oh-my-git though and it changed nothing.
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>>60884785
did you try restarting?
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>>60884873
unset PAGER
unset GIT_PAGER

and try again.
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>>60884889
top kek
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>>60884899
did that, no change

>>60884894
yes
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>>60884785
looks like a problem with either the terminal or git
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>>60884914
try
env -i HOME="$HOME" git config -l
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>>60884920
I've reinstalled git and installed git-git, no change. Also I've used other terminals to test it.

>>60884928
Done, no change
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>>60884951
USE
GHB
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>>60884914
try
echo 'alias git="echo gud"' >> ~/.zshrc
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>>60884951
Have you an alias for git?
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>>60884951
Did you try installing git-git-git?
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So my company is finally trying to adopt Linux for a few power users. It's pretty much not up to me what distro they are using. They are going to use Ubuntu. Question is, what software should I use as a central management software? It needs to interface with Active Directory so they can maintain all their passwords.

Right now, I'm looking into FreeIPA. Is there a better alternative? Thanks.
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mpv won't inhibit the screensaver on fedora in wayland gnome. Any other way?
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>>60885223
>AD on *nix
You're in for a tough ride buddy.
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>>60884666
I actually just like how it looks...
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>>60885264
>wayland
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What happens to debian testing once Stretch is released? How do I update to the new version of testing?
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>>60885300
xorg is obsolete
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>>60885342
you just change the repositories.
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>>60885378
Hows that xorg-server-wayland working out for ya buddy?

Wayland is underperforming and MIGHT be usefull in 20 years time

You're just a hipster using it and have no real reason for you're using it over xorg
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>>60885264
mpv and xscreensaver devs make a point of blaming each other for the fact that their programs don't play together well and refuse to acknowledge their software's behaviour as a bug, much less fix it.

Meanwhile, adding this to mpv.conf can make it work.
heartbeat-cmd="xscreensaver-command -deactivate >&- 2>&- &"

I have no idea if this is relevant to wayland. Actually I have no clue what the fuck wayland is, never heard it outside of /g/.
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>>60885413
well I'm assuming the X in Xscreensaver is for xorg so probably won't work on wayland.
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>>60885378
well meme'd, Mr. unpaid GNOME shill.
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>>60885413
heartbeat-cmd can be whatever command you wish executed every 30 seconds or so
It's just that for xorg you want to poke xscreensaver to not fall asleep.
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What does /fglt/ think of the pirate party?
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>>60885264
>wayland
Lmao

It's supposed to be broken like that by design, Wayland doesn't have a stable screensaver inhibition protocol yet

>>60885403
>You're just a hipster using it and have no real reason for you're using it over xorg
He has it because he runs Fedora and is an unpaid beta-tester for Red Hat
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>>60876902
NixOS or Void.
>>
enjoy your shitty screen tearing and non perfect frames.
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>>60886024
One click and Fedora uses X.Org instead of Wayland. He uses it because he's a hipster using it for no real reason.
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>>60886109
um I use it because videos stutter like shit in Xorg on youtube unlike wayland.
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>>60886132
>because videos stutter like shit in Xorg on youtube
Blatent lie
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>trying to install Arch
>managed to do it successfully but forgot to install rfkill which is necessary for me to connect in order to unlock wifi
>chroot from the Live CD and install it from here
>log back into the system
>still doesn't work

The error I get is something like "rfkill: command not found" which I can only assume it's because I didn't install the package during the installation process, as I can run installed programs such as iw. Is there any way I can solve the issue besides redoing everything from scratch?
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>>60886215
Are you sure you chrooted?
If it cannot find the command it seems you didnt and were installing it on to the liveusb environment instead of your install.

Boot the liveusb and makecure you are arch-chroot'ing properly and install it
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>mfw replacing a 20GB+ Ubuntu install that required an internal disk with a tiny Alpine USB-ramdisk that lets me use all the drive bays in the server for ZFS
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>>60886215
>installing Arch instead of Antergos

For what purpose?
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>>60886330
>using a downstream distro
wEEW LAdDy
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>>60886305
feels bretty good doesn't it?
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>>60886352
It's just an Arch installer.
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Since there is no /sqt/ right now I'll ask here.

I'm trying to install Linux Hardened in Arch but don't really know what I'm doing.

What I'm trying to do is:
pacman -S linux-hardened
sed -i 's/vmlinuz-linux/vmlinuz-linux-hardened/g' /boot/grub/grub.cfg
sed -i 's/initramfs-linux.img/initramfs-linux-hardened.img/g' /boot/grub/grub.cfg
sed -i 's/initramfs-linux-fallback.img/initramfs-linux-fallback-hardened.img/g' /boot/grub/grub.cfg
mkinitcpio -p linux-hardened

So basically replace all instances of the normal linux kernel with the hardened version in my boot loader and do mkinicpio.
After doing this when I boot my PC it hangs after the last OK. I'm chrooted in and reverted the changes now so I can use my PC.

So what do I need to do to set this up?
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How do I configure the title bar in i3 gaps?
I want to remove all text from it and change the color.

I can only find documentation on changing the border behavior and the i3bar colors.
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>>60886494
Your grub dosent look correct,manually do it
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>>60886132
That's probably easier to fix than get wayland to work because wayland protocol isn't even out of alpha
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>>60886259
>arch-chroot'ing
Wew, I did plain chroot. So this is the issue?
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>>60886598
Yes
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>>60886494
I don't think you're supposed to edit grub.cfg manually
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>>60886558
What do you mean manually? I changed everything pertaining to the linux kernel with that of the linux-hardened kernel.

But by any chance do you know how to change the kernel in /etc/default/grub ? In systemd-boot you just do it in the conf file you make for e very boot entry, but grub is really weird and the documentation for it is kind of chaotic.
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>>60886564
there's nothing to fix. It's been like that on every distro I've tried on every computer I've tried.
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>>60886632
Dont use sed.Manually go in to grub.cfg and setup the kernel boot
I dont use grub,since they went retard mode with the config.You could use syslinux as its way more sane with its config.
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>>60886611
Yeah I just don't know how to change kernel in /etc/default/grub so I tried manually editing grub.cfg.
Do you know how to do it? Cause the grub documentation is more messy than my pubic hair.
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>>60886667
You set GRUB_DEFAULT in it, either to the name of the default entry or to it's index
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>>60886606
Thanks, will try tomorrow and report results, I'm too tired now.
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How can someone be this >>60884768 dumb? Can someone tell me what is going on? Do you think his parents were siblings?
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>>60885403

>Wayland is underperforming
Do you have data to back your claims up?

>>60886024

>Wayland doesn't have a stable screensaver inhibition protocol yet
And Xorg does?
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>>60886896
>Do you have data to back your claims up?
Dont install xorg-server-wayland and see how many of your programs actually run.

>And Xorg does?
>xscreensaver
>Xscreensaver
>EXXXXXXXXXXXXXscreensaver
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>>60886902

>Dont install xorg-server-wayland and see how many of your programs actually run.
That has nothing to do with your performance claim, idiot.

>Xscreensaver
It's not a part of Xorg, you utter retard. It's a "3rd party" program.
Kill yourself so you don't spread misinformation so smugly. I repeat, kill yourself.
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>>60886946
If you cant run 90% of the programs how can you possible expect any one to take you seriously? You cant compare anything from Xorg to wayland when you cant run it.
>3rd party
So why does wayland not have a third party solution then?
>>
>pulseaudio
>systemd
>selinux
>now fucking wayland

how many new memes do we need till we stop?
I just want muh 80s operating system.
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>>60887003
Selinux and Wayland are good things.
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>>60886965

GTK3 and Qt5 programs that don't use X specific calls all work on Wayland. You claimed that its worse performance wise. Stop changing your argument just because you have no real facts.

>So why does wayland not have a third party solution then?
Because it's up to the compositor to implement it. I don't know much about GNOME, Sway or other Wayland compositor's implementation. You are again moving the goalposts after being proven wrong.
Kill yourself.
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>>60887013
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>>60887003

You weren't even alive in the 80s, you idiot.
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hey /g/ what a nice text editor that's light weight but still looks alright? Running arch w/ xfce
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I'm trying to compile a program from AUR and after using makepkg I get
==> ERROR: You do not have write permission to create packages in

What do?
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>>60887214
ed(1)
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>>60887149
so what
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>>60887214
give vi/vim a try bub. Once you get the gist of it it's a blast to use.
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>>60887242

Post output of "pwd".
Also post the exact things you wrote in your terminal emulator.
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>>60887278
>[antergos@Lucy dolphin-emu-git]$ makepkg
==> ERROR: You do not have write permission to create packages in /home/antergos/dolphin-emu-git.
Aborting...

==> ERROR: An unknown error has occurred. Exiting...

>pwd: /home/antergos/dolphin-emu-git
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>>60887330
>antergos
Theres your problem.
Install arch without it then come back.This is what you get when you use downstream distros
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>>60887345
That really helped
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>>60887330

Post the output of "ls -l /home/antergos"
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currently running ubuntu on virtualbox, but cant seem to use more power. Am only allowed to use one cpu. anyway to bypass this without bios fuckery?
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I don't get what this is saying me.
It's the SD card in my Camera. It used to work perfectly, but ever since my clean reinstall of Ubuntu 16.04. It shows me this error message. Also shows the error message when accessing via SD-card reader.
Also shows up when using another USB port
Help appreciated
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>>60887450
What happens when you run
sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
?
>>
>>60887450

It literally says what's wrong. How about you actually read the error message?
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>>60887507
resolved it, thanks
>>60887560
Couldnt have deduced that exfat utils wer emissing from that message. Just a bunch of Mumbo-Jumbo to me.
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>>60887645

Literally the first result when you type the error message into a search engine.
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>>60887645
>Couldnt have deduced that exfat utils wer emissing from that message.
are you for real
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I use zsh for terminal... I'm also fond of curly braces.

I have a code that looks like this (echo is substituted for a more complex file rename command:

for i in *{.jpg,.jpeg};do echo "$i"; done 


This works great as long as the folder I'm in has both the .jpg and jpeg files... but if only jpg or jpegs are present, this does not work and zsh gives me this error (when I only have .jpeg files:

script.sh:1: no matches found: *.jpg


Anyone know how to make this work when only one filetype is present?
>>
which is better for wayland, gnome or kde?
>>
>>60887839
>no idea how to shell
>uses zsh
ebin
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>>60887839
The solution is not using brace expansion you dum dum.

for i in *.jpg *.jpeg; do echo "$i"; done
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>>60887928
what's the point of brace expansion then?
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>>60887928
Not him but that will print *.jpeg when jpeg isn't present you dum dum.
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>>60887940
who knows
for i in {1..1000..2}; do echo "$i"; done
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>>60887928
for i in *.jpg *.jpeg; do echo "$i"; done
zsh: no matches found: *.jpg
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>>60887258
ed?
>>
>>60887839
zsh is for advanced users only.
>>
you should read the manual, I thing zsh has some simliar extented globbing like bash:

bash
for i in @(*jpg|*jpeg|*png|*gif); do echo "$i"; done


find
find . -iname '*.jpg' -o -iname '*.jpeg' -exec echo {} \;
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>>60887980
It's the standard editor.
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>>60886896
>And Xorg does?
Yes it does

You can control both screensaver and DPMS via X11 api

You can't do that via Wayland yet, you can't actually do shit with Wayland because it's not designed for desktop, it was supposed to be used on embedded systems. I don't think there's an interface to take a screenshot in wayland yet.

Plus there is only one compositor that more or less works on all drivers (mutter), and I'm not sure if mutter even supports all input devices yet (yes, because of wayland every compositor should also implement input handling too, which basically kills off every small WM that existed under X11)

It's too early to use wayland on desktop
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>>60887839
find /path/ -regex .*\.jpe?g -exec echo {} \;
>>
What's the best looking DE in your opinion? I like the KDE from Linux Mint desu.
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>>60888065
>It's too early to use wayland on desktop
I'm using it right now on fedora 26
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>>60888094
no DE is best DE
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>>60887928
>The solution is not using brace expansion you dum dum.
Retard, that's brace expansion is a shortcut for that.

>>60888054
zsh has a much easier to remember expansion:

*{.ext1,.ext2,...}


>>60888075
That's bypassing shell expansions.

The solution to the problem that >>60887839 encountered is this:

setopt +o nomatch


Put it into your .zshrc or whatever and then it will not complain when it matches just one of the expansion parameters.
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>>60887943
>not using shopt -s nullglob
>>
>>60888137
>unironically using zsh
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>>60888098
Are you the same guy who can't watch a movie without moving the mouse every X minutes because there's no standardized way for programs to suspend the screensaver under wayland?
>>
>>60887839
for i in *.[Jj][Pp][Gg]; do echo "$i"; done
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>>60888167
zsh is 100x better than bash for USER SPACE! bash devs don't give a fuck about user space and only care about scripting. zsh is a decade ahead when it comes to usability and ease of use and sheet power in terminal.

only retards use bash for their shell.
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>>60888203
fail. won't match *.jpeg
>>
>>60888204
Whatever makes you feel fuzzy when falling for hipster memes. Do you also use oh-my-zsh and cool powerline PS1 because it's 1000x better?
>>
>>60888183
not anymore

#!/bin/bash
gnome-session-inhibit /usr/bin/mpv foo "$@"

wrote it myself
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>>60888204
>using an operating systems as shell
enjoy ur tetris
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>>60888243
>>#!/bin/bash
>gnome-session-inhibit /usr/bin/mpv foo "$@"
pure horror

>not using #!/bin/sh
>using full path
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>>60888065

DPMS isn't a classic screensaver. It handles power management for displays.
Wayland compositors support it, at least Kwin/Plasma (pretty sure others do too).
https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/09/comparing-dpms-on-x11-and-wayland/

The only screensaver-esque thing built into Xorg, is the blanking. Sure, you can turn it off (using xset from your shell), but similar utilities will exist for Wayland compositors too (if they already don't).
>>
GNU Thread: >>60888348
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>>60888232
>Whatever makes you feel fuzzy when falling for hipster memes.
Not a meme. If anything, bash is a fucking meme because it's so shitty and illogical in many ways.

>Do you also use oh-my-zsh and cool powerline PS1 because it's 1000x better?
No. I have a single .zshrc with a bunch of setopts set and a bunch of functions.

zsh is godtier.
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>>60888405
enjoy your bloat
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>>60888426
bash is pure bloat. enjoy your african shit.
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>>60888441
no U
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>>60888065
>yes, because of wayland every compositor should also implement input handling too, which basically kills off every small WM that existed under X11
holy shit wayland is dead on arrival
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>>60888456
>trusting your shell to african code
kek'd. stay retarded and sniff some jenkem.
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