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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine.

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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Wizards assemble !

Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can heal broken installs.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portgage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (packages) not found in the grimoire (repository) is easy http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Bash hackers welcome! Come and join http://sourcemage.org/
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I'm looking to install Gentoo on my new laptop, the only thing refraining me are compile times. My CPU is an Intel Core i5-7200U 2.5 GHz(3.1 overclocked iirc). What kind of compile times should I expect? Also, do you have any tips in general about what you should and shouldn't do the first time you install it?

Asking again because nobody responded in the last thread.
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so today while i was off at work my parents texted me saying they had a bunch of problems with the internet. so i tried to access my rutorrent online but couldn't connect and then i tried to ssh in and also could not connect. im dont really know if rtorrent was causing the problems and ive left it alone plenty of times before without any trouble, but im still a little worried that it may be a bit to aggressive so i want to do something about it. also it seems like a pretty good idea anyways

right now I allow connection through a tor hs only for both the ssh server and rutorrent because of the nat-punching abilities and because i already have tor connected 99% of the time anyway, so i figure some kind of shut-off could be based on that

tl;dr: how hard would it be to write a script that tells rtorrent to pause all traffic if tor doesn't say that it is connected, and then start seeding and stuff again once the connection is fine? i have no real programming experience

NO IM NOT TORRENTING OVER TOR AND THIS IS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT TORRENTING OVER TOR ONLY SSH TRAFFIC AND THE WEB UI IS GOING OVER TOR
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>>60869696
about 30 min for firefox is what I remember
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TIL: gx in vim opens the url under the cursor in my browser
Any more hidden gems like this?
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Ich bin ein proprietärer Hahnrei, wollt ihr wissen was das ist?
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>>60869734
Bitte nicht
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>>60869727
g? does rot13

>>60869734
hoid dei gosch'n
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>>60869734
>>60869740
>>60869744
go away lennart
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>>60869781
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>>60869722
Do you have a CPU similar to mine? Do you remember how much it took to install the whole system?
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Which terminal supports colored emojis? I'm a girl.
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Can someone help me out with archiso? My builds keep failing
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>>60869826
Arch is for advanced users only.
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>>60869696
Firefox is a massive piece of software.
Gentoo offers you a binary version of it so you can get your system started up and get usable.
You can then schedule compilation of firefox in the background.
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Smoothest, most beautiful distro / DE combo is ____
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>>60869695

Works on my machine(tm)
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>>60869840
the one i'm usingß
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What are some cool terminal commands?
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>>60869740
>>60869744
>>60869781
Nun, lasst mich erklären.

Der normale Hahnrei erhält nur ein Geschenk von seinem Microsoft-Stecher: Ein Spyware-Betriebssystem. Doch der proprietäre Hahnrei will mehr. Er will drei Geschenke. Wir sind gierige kleine Schlampen.

Doch zuerst dazu, wie ich es tue.

Normalerweise browse ich in meinem Google Chrome zu Amazon, wo Juden ihre Software verticken, wo der Schweiss auf ihrer Nase glänzt und die Luft von ihrem Geruch erfüllt ist. Da werde ich schon steif, wenn ich nur dran denke. Manchmal komme ich ein bisschen in meine Hose. Ich steige aus und frage die Juden, wer von ihnen Photoshop hat. Sie wissen dann schon, was kommt. Einer tritt hervor, und wir browsen gemeinsam etwas weiter. Dann hole ich einen USB-Stick und steche ihn in meine Harnröhre und drehe ihn ein bisschen, wir nennen das den „Trojaner-Dreher“ in der Hahnrei-Community.

Klar, es tut weh, aber was als nächstes kommt, ist einfach zum Abspritzen geil. Der Jude schiebt seinen gewaltigen Malwareverseuchten USB-Stick in mein Thinkpad und installiert Botnetze, bis wir beide kommen. So habe ich mir schon 4 verschiedene Arten von Spyware geholt. Das ist das erste Geschenk.

Dann fahren wir nach Hause, wo er meinen Desktop infiziert. Das ist das zweite Geschenk. Er hat auch schon viele Arten von Spyware. Jedes Mal, wenn ich ein Programm schreibe, veröffentliche ich es unter einer proprietären Lizenz. Das ist das größte Geschenk, zu wissen, dass meine Programme mehr freie Computer infizieren werden.
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>>60869840
i3 on top of kde
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>>60869838
What about other software like the kernel or KDE?
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kerneld when?
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>>60869890
look for gentoo bin page
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>>60869866
>the jews
>>>/pol/
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>>60869861

Screenfetch improvement.

curl https://pastebin.com/raw/0akbv3gm
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Okay /g/,

I'm an sysadmin that's currently still stuck on Window, I know the basics of Linux but whenever I'm using Linux I keep distrohopping. I'm mostly just virtualising test labs writing essays and using RDP/VNC what distro do you guys advise me?

Pic related is my machine.
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>>60869940
install ubunut
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>>60869940

Every distribution can run the same software.
There is no distribution specializing in virtualising test labs writing essays and using RDP/VNC.
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>>60869940
Wipe Windows, install GNU/Linux.
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>>60869940
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60869940
install gentoo, its especially made for using RDP/VNC and beginner friendly
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>>60869940
You're a sysadmin that can't fucking google?
How on earth did you land the job?
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>>60869987
>google
botnet
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>>60869899
There is not a binary for everything, which is why I'm asking how much time compiling stuff like KDE can take.
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>>60869940
>learn about netinstall
>install favorite wm/de
>???
>profit
pic related
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>>60870080
saved
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Touchpad (or fn-buttons) doesn't work at all in Debian stable (touchpad doesn't even show up in /proc/bus/input/devices), but they work fine when livebooting Ubuntu 16.04.
Guessing the drivers have been fixed in the later kernel in Ubuntu.
What should I do then to get them working in Debian?
Use testing instead? Update the kernel?
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>>60870080
forgot pic
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>>60870047
A lot. One of the disadvantages of Qt is how long the compilation takes.
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>>60869980
more of this <3
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>>60870120
2/3
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I have a few questions to devuan users.
Is the net install easy as arch linux netinstall?
Are Devuan repos fast and have mirrorlists? (my cuntry throttles certain cuntries or the other way around)
Can I enjoy KDE plasma 5.10?
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>>60870120
3/3
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>>60870146
Is that a docking station? Alpha as fuck!
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>>60870163
>>60870146
thank (you)s
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>/pol/eddit
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>>60870098
A lot how? If it is something like 1/2 hours I'm willing to live with it because updating KDE isn't something I would do often anyway.
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>>60869987
>unironically suggesting google
>>60869940
>sysad
>inb4 2succ2debug
try gentoo or slackware
>>60870080
>pic related
x11 broke. Try installing via chroot
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>>60870234
With jews you lose. (((Stallman))) has promoted degeneracy such as necrophilia, bestiality, and pedophilia as he plots to subvert western civilization.
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>>60868438
>Debian is doing all the hard work and Devuan is leeching off the work
First off, the Devuan community is also the Debian community. Next, people working on the Devuan project actually contribute back to Debian.
- vdev development
- making jenkins-debian-glue work
- qemu fixes
- power-manager fixes
And when anything goes wrong down the systemd road, a different way is there for you. :^)
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>>60870237

Why do you expect people to tell you exactly how long it will take?
Compiling isn't something that's exclusive to Gentoo. You can compile Qt on your current distribution and see how long it takes.
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>>60870266
>>60870219
fuck off retard
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>>60869980
>>60870146
>>60870163
yes
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>>60870280
No you fuck off
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>>60870280
here's your patch
@ your actions
- reply
+ report
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How do I change directory permissions from the ftp CLI client?

ftp> chmod -R Documents/ 755
502 Command not recognized
ftp>


chmod doesn't seem to work, despit being there in the "help" output.
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>>60870307
>Wanting censorship
Kill yourself you kike shill, you won't poz /g/ forever.
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>>60870237
I have no fucking clue. A lot. Big project, lots of programs and a toolkit that's not very friendly to compilation.

You can look at a rough estimate here:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/mkyral/plasma-5.7.95/packages/
Just click on the package you're interested in and it will give you the compilation time.
I don't know exactly how powerful their machine is but their other fedora community servers are quad-core Haswells so It's safe to assume their compilation box is similar if not slightly worse performing.
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>>60870314
perms go before the file
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>>60869890
>>60870047
There's binaries for 'certain' official packages but the problem is most packages must be compiled via source which should meet certain requirements like at least 10gb free space and a modern processor.
If you have a modern desktop you can compile everything in there and copy the binaries to your old rig.
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>>60870269
dont forget amprolla
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>>60870330
>fedora
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The linux community is severely cucked. They've fallen for marxist lies and several distros are infested with SJWs like debian and fedora. If whites are to thrive the degenerates and marxists cucking whites need to be purged.
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>>60870353
I don't see what's your problem. They give you a little bit of hosting space with SSH access for a website, a git repository or whatever you wish. Free of charge.
If it's something you need once every month or two I see no reason to pay for a vps.

Also I don't use fedora, just their services lmao
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>>60870381
Wrong board buddy
>>>/v/eddit
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>>60870269
>And when anything goes wrong down the systemd road, a different way is there for you. :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh8MIp2FOhc
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>>60870391
Not your safe space, cuck.
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>>60870401
I just pointed you to yours. Shoo.
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>>60870219
>>60870266
>>60870381
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>>60869861
garlic_bulb >> doge | head
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>>60870332

Tried it, same results "Command not recognized". I even just typed "chmod" and went through the interactive thing with the same result.
Eh, fuck FTP I guess. I'm looking for a convenient way to access files on an Android phone without a cable (MTP).
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>>60870410
>YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE
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>they actually fucking reply to him
just stop, and he'll go away. Just see
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>>60870420
scp
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>>60870314
prefix it with 'site' as in

site chmod R 755 Documents/
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>>60870425
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>>60870423
You already ruined 3 boards. Trying for a 4th or what?
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>>60870420
use lftp, /g/entooman recommended tool
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>>60870438
You can't ruin what was already /pol/
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>>60870429

Hosting a ssh server was my other approach and it worked. Guess I have to stick to that.

>>60870432

Same results, error 502.
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>>60870456
this tbhfams
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>installing gentoo
>just unpacked the stage3 tarball by typing...
tar xvjpf stage3-*.tar.bz2 --xattrs --numeric-owner

>into the terminal.
>watching text scroll very rapidly in the terminal

i.. is this what people are talking about when they mention "compiling from source?"
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>>60870438
t. Proud cuck
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>>60870420
>I'm looking for a convenient way to access files on an Android phone without a cable (MTP).
Via the commandline or by a graphical manager?
I actually use SMB to access the files.

It's something that my blackberry q10 does by default (make itself visible on wifi network) but I'm fairly sure there are plenty of tools for android to do the same.
And you can mount an SMB share via the commandline so.
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>>60870438
>3 boards
/pol/ , /v/ what else?
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>>60870465
the power of gentoo
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>>60870269
Now linux is naming their distros after niggers, how pathetic.
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get a load of this /pol/
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>>60870491
/int/, probably. But /tv/ is also fucked.
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>>60870512
/tv/ is very split on how they feel about /pol/.
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>>60870512
/int/ is frankly a decent board when it comes to this because most threads are national generals.
It scares the drooling american mongrels - the vast majority of /pol/turds since they're monolingual kids.
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>>60870527
I agree but the /pol/ack at /tv/ is pretty much a pedo and does the exact same thing that ruined original /b/
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>>60870391
>>60870410
>>60870438
>replying to desperate leftypol false-flaggers
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>>60869807
The base install is easily 20gb.For abig project like firefox thats easily another 10gb for source.
Its really not worth it in the long run
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>>60870558
/pol/ hates stallman and even more on 8/pol/
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>>60869727
gg=G to autoindent a file if you're writing c(++)
gv to go to visual mode and re-highlight your last selection
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>>60870557
/b/ was never good
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>>60870627
>repeating the same lie that brough /b/ to its downfall
die scum
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>>60870646
>t. came here in 2012
And now I realized I've been in this place for a decade. Fuck me.
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>>60870508
>linux
>their distros
Your first day using a computer?
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>>60870658
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Hi everybody.
I'm here to brighten your day.
Just discovered a new distro aimed at programmers and webdevs.
The best part.....it comes with a GF.
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oi /g/, some idea of pdf readers .deb that look cool, have some nice futures and are lite? foxit reader is nice for windows but looks like shit on linux.
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>>60870728
Install GNU and then install mupdf or zathura.
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>>60870709
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>>60870728
firefox
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>>60870728
evince, fbreader, gentoo
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>>60870709
Use a cleverbot backend.
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>>60870728
Unrelated, but I use Arch.
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>>60870709
if you are the dev might as well try betty https://github.com/pickhardt/betty
>English-like interface for your command line

also for simple reference get bropages http://bropages.org/
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>>60870880
reminder that curl cheat.sh exists, please contribute!
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>>60870910
>>60870880
but there's already "man"
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>>60870728
Atril is the pre-GTK3 version of Evince before it got Gnome3-ified.
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>>60870944

Atril uses GTK3 too.
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>>60870910
link

>>60870936
not for composite scripts
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>>60870936
man pages don't matter to people that never read documentation anyway
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>>60870944
>gtk3 is bad
is this some jewish trickery?
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>>60870968
Well had no idea they already ported it. I'm using 1.8.1 on Devuan and it's still GTK2 fortunately.

>>60870984
I don't like tablet UI on a desktop.
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>>60870977
>link
you can post scripts with curl too
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>>60870742
>>60870769
I'll keep evince. Is perfect. but mupdf looks more patrician so i'll keep it to use in public like a hipster.
Thanks
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>blank machine
>Gentoo as host (first time trying it out)
>Windows 10 as guest
>GTX 1070 on passthrough
>i5 6600k CPU's iGPU as host graphics device
Any gotchas I should watch out for before I start?
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>>60871057
install gentoo
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>>60871057
>>60871120
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>>60870994

GTK3 has nothing to do with tablet UI, you idiot. There is an GTK3 port of Xfce components (from GTK2) and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.
Just another myth spreading idiot, nothing to see here. Kill yourself.
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>>60871157
redshit shills are in full force today
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>>60871057
>Any gotchas I should watch out for before I start?
remember to enable the required settings for PCI/PCI-E passthru in the kernel.
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>>60871274
linux*
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>>60870910
>curl cheat.sh
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>>60871285
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what are some good linux subreddits
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>>60871245

>i know absolutely nothing about toolkits, so i'll just fall back to my retarded stock response

Let this sink in: I know that I am not a shill. Therefore I can for 100% say that you're an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. Therefore you should just kill yourself.
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>>60871358

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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>>60871358
linux, linuxmemes, linuxmasterrace, unixporn
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https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745032
Fuck this bug. Gnome Shell on Wayland is otherwise usable for me but this piece of shit laggy cursor makes it too annoying. Knowing Gnome it won't be fixed until 2020 or something
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>>60871374
>unixporn
I love how sometimes macfags pop up, trying to fit in.
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>>60871374
>linuxmemes
>tfw there's a massive ransomware outbreak on windows machines but you jumped that ship long ago
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>>60871358
Fuck reddit in general, but /r/StallmanWasRight is a good read, especially if you are not sure if you want to use free software or not.
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>>60871389
>gnome
>wayland
Found your problem sonny
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>>60871157
>and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.
I can by the filepicker.
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>>60871358
/r/coolgithubprojects is interesting
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>>60871358
reddit is eating the poo shat on 4chan
no need for reddit when you get the memes upstream
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>>60871358
/fglt/
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>>60871440
I recognize some of my memes so is good to have fans, even if they will never know who I am ;_;
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>>60871455
At leat, by now, we know it's you. *hug*
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>>60871455
It's like when you slave over a program, release it under a free license and then years down the line, some hotshot young guy with geled hair wearing a suit making millions a year hires you to maintain the code that made him rich, only for you to realize that significant portions of it are taken from your own code and you could have made that money if you had released it as proprietary software, or at least prevented this cunt from getting rich if only you had released it under a copyleft license.
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>>60871495
reminds me of bsd
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>>60871495
But i can take your code and sell it 1:1 under gpl
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>try out surf
>browse to this thread for testing
>mfw, loaded in a second
wtf
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>>60869840
Fedora/GNOME
Debian/Xfce
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>>60871491
yes, I am the hacker known as 4chan *hugs back*

>>60871506
this
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>>60871506
literally BSD
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>>60871495
I cannot find the article for shit but there was a case when some guy wrote a library under a BSD license, then -when Google adopted his code for Chrome- he hoped that they will hire him to work on his code for fat buck.

Except that Google hired Pajeet to work on the library and said man is now homeless and cursing open sores, while being unable to do anything as he released his sw under a permissive license.
If he had it GPL, he could sell it under a license that permits usage Google wants.
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>>60871707
The AGPLv3 is basically modern shareware - even using it in a SaaS platform you have to make the source available, so a lot of AGPLv3 stuff is also available as proprietary software since companies dislike doing that.
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>>60871707
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so, on mac iterm you can show a picture in the terminal by using \033]1337;base64codeOfPic
why doesn't any other terminal on gnu+linux support this?
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>>60872126
Maybe 1337 is patented.
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>>60872126
unicode, check it
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>>60872283
is this a meme?
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>>60872153
lmao https://www.iterm2.com/documentation-escape-codes.html
>Proprietary Escape Codes
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>>60869720
Make the rtorrent init service depend on Tor.
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>>60869940
Debian Stable. It's rock solid and does what you want just fine.
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>>60872496
>>Proprietary Escape Codes
At first I thought "nice meme"
Then I clicked on the link and that's actually the page title

Although they don't seem to be implying that they're patented or cannot be supported in other terminal emulators, rather that they were developed in-house specifically for iTerm and aren't known to be supported by anything else. The code's GPL anyway.
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>emojis on the terminal
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So, I am planning to install Debian testing on my desktop. What happens at the release date of the new stable version (saturday)? Do I need to switch the testing version to the new testing or does only the name change?
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casual gamer here. does lutris worth it?
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>>60872861

does
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is there a debian equivalent of hardened gentoo
is there a debian without systemd
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>>60872956
I'll harden in ur mom
Devuan
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>>60872956
hardened gentoo relies on grsecurity kernel patches.
Unfortunately because of few greedy kike companies grsecurity patches are no longer available for free in the stable branch, only the testing. I think only sid offers grsec-hardened patches.

>is there a debian without systemd
https://dev-1.org
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>>60873081
weird, firefox says it's an insecure connection

https://devuan.org/
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>>60873042
>>60873081
>>60873087

Thank you very much
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>>60869674
Wow. I hate that same laptop with that same sticker!
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Weird question, pardon if it's genuinely stupid.
Is there a tool for making websites like this?

https://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/index.html

I'm talking about the table of contents and the "next" and "prev" buttons in the footer and header.
It's not silly to assume they don't make it by hand no?
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>>60873168
to me the simplicity suggests that they DO make it by hand.
It's basic html they didn't bother to dress up
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>>60870438
why is their a anarcho-communist flag in /pol/?
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>>60873192
It cannot be. This particular one is few pages long so sure it's doable by hand, but some articles like this are multi chapter with dozens of pages.
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>>60873201
Because anarcho-communism is a political philosophy.
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>>60873236
It's literally basic HTML markup. You could probably write a "tool" in posix sh.
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>>60873255
Yes but it isn't exactly welcome on /pol/ though?
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>>60873267
You're new are you?
/pol/ is 4chan and 4chan is contrarian. /pol/ swinged hard to the right when Obungo took office (since the board it's mostly composed of americans). Before Obungo there was Bush. And entire /pol/ with 4chan alongside had a blast at republican and conservative ideas.
Now this pendulum is disrupted because the entire site experienced a massive fucking influx of all sorts of children from reddit and other american-right sites.
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Friendly reminder to try different wm. Like mwm, looks like CDE without the menubar. If you want one with virtual desktop support there is vtwm with a motif theme, here are the .vtwmrc with screenshots http://www.vtwm.org/vtwm-and.html

The resource usage of vtwm is extremely minimal too.
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>>60873310
I don't really browser /pol/ but when were communist ideas ever popular there? It used to be more libertarian but I don't think it was ever communist.
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>>60873347
How does it change anything? How do you even measure popularity of a particular philosophies on /pol/?
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>>60873363
I don't speak turkish. If you intend to post a joke, at least try to explain it.
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>>60873323
The problem with vms like that is that everything else sticks out like a sore thumb with them.
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>>60873392
It's an ancient (2004) microsoft adversement, claiming "An open operating system not only has advantages".
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>>60873392
>turkish
but anon, that's aryan
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quick, what's the best terminal?
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>>60873547
urxvt with daemon mode or st.
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>>60873566
I never use the daemon. Too much panic that all terminals die when one hangs.
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what's the deal with xubuntu

i am a linux babby and my roommate helped me install my first linux distro. she installed xubuntu because that's what she uses. what's the difference between this and ubuntu? i do not understand
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>>60873547
I heard "hyper" is the new shit.
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>>60873783
xubuntu is ubuntu with a lightweight desktop and no spyware
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>>60873783
>roommate
>it's a girl
You lucky bastard.
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>>60873783
>she
>used gnu+linux
i want to believe
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>>60873783
Does she know about Stallman aka sexiest man alive?
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>>60873808

shes very nice but not very pretty and also fairly autistic. i do enjoy living with her though because she's quiet, clean and works as a sysadmin so she doesn't mind if i muck around with the router to learn how networking works because no matter what i do she can fix it in 5 minutes

>>60873807

could you explain this a bit more? what makes it "lightweight"? and why is there no spyware?
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>>60873749
Fair point. I actually had it shit itself once when I was using Fedora (le bleeding edge phase).

On dinosaur versions like the ones used in debian haven't happened to me. I feel pretty safe using it.
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>>60873869
xubuntu uses the xfce desktop (hence the x) which doesn't need much resources to run, which again makes it lightweight
>>60873807
unity is dead, retard
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>>60873869
>she's quiet, clean, doesn't mind
sounds just perfect
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I installed Arch, what now??
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>>60873910

ok, so XFCE is a desktop client that is separate from ubuntu itself? is that also like what "gnome" is? is there a separate version of ubuntu that runs gnome then?

thanks for your answers so far
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>>60873952
install gentoo
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>>60873969
exactly
xfce, gnome, kde (kubuntu) are all independent projects, so called "DE"s, which basically can be installed on any distro
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>>60873969
newer versions of ubuntu use gnome by default now
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>>60873990

interesting... just out of curiosity, what is in your opinion the best desktop client then, and why?
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>>60870088
Try either, as testing has a much more recent version of Linux
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>>60869840
Debian on XFCE
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>>60869840
Devuan on Xfce
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>>60869840
arch on i3
>>60874033
>>60874047
>hes using a de
lmao noobz
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>>60870162
Netinst is as easy as any other installation images. The only difference is the number of available packages on the iso.
I installed devuan this morning and I was surprised that there are much more mirrors listed here, it even has Malta mirrors which are not on Debian.
tl;dr you'll be fine
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>>60873529
> an open operating system doesn't only have advantages
Is what it actually says. Why do they translate this shit so poorly when a very direct translation is possible?
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>>60869840
debian/i3
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>>60874005
XFCE or LXDE are the lightest ones.
GNOME3 has an interesting UI, reminiscent of Windows 8's start screen.
KDE is nice, customizable and looks great, but is pretty heavy on resources.
It all depends on what you are looking for and what feels the best to you. You can fuck around and try other things, install live images on an USB drive and look for yourself. Or watch reviews on youtube.

Also all of those DEs have their own Ubuntu spin
Xubuntu - XFCE, Lubuntu - LXDE, Kubuntu - KDE, Ubuntu GNOME - GNOME 3, etc.
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>>60873547
Idk man XFCE one is fuckin dope
>>
Debian Testing installation faq says (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting):

>Remove or comment out your stable security updates line(s) (anything with security.debian.org in it).
After a while:
> If you are tracking testing or the next-stable code name, you should always have a corresponding deb http://security.debian.org <"testing" or codename>/updates main line in your /etc/apt/sources.list .

Isn't this contradictory?
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>>60873547
st
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>>60874164
No, it asks you to remove security updates for stable
And then add security updates for testing
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>>60874137

thanks man im installing plasma now to play around it with it, i had no idea it was so easy to just install a completely new desktop client, i thought they were all native and i would have to format & reinstall every time
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>>60873440
That's what the OneStepBack Gtk theme is for.
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>>60874223
nah it's easy af, especially on ubuntu because it has basically all of them available.
You just switch them at the login screen.
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>>60874259

im actually very surprised at how easy linux is to use. it has this reputation of being some arcane nerd-vortex that only hyper-autists can tolerate, but so far everything has been unbelievably simple, you just have to get over the fear of the command line...
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>>60874234
Also Qt has a built in Motif look-and-feel option in qt5ct/qtconfig.
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>>60874218
Alright, thanks. The thing that makes it confusing is point 1:
>Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file, changing 'stable' (or the current codename for stable) to 'testing' (or the current code name for the next stable release).

At this point, I supposed to have replaced all "stable" instances with "testing", so the security updates line was already replaced with a testing update line.
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>>60874306
Yeah that's how I always did it
Just replace everything that says 'stable' or 'jessie' to 'testing', then apt-get update and dist-upgrade
It's gonna be a big download and install tho
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There is nothing worse than when you need a certain feature enabled and all the binary distros use defaults, but the option you want is disabled by default.
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>>60870088
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad
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>>60874446

Learn to package your own packages.
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Help me, freedomfriends! I am installing Fedora 25 Workstation, and the installer has been 22% complete for over an hour now. It says, "Installing software 22%", and nothing else. Because this is my first experience with Fedora, I have no idea how to look at a command line or anything to see what's actually happening. I don't think I've done anything wrong, but maybe I partitioned it badly or something. Otherwise, maybe the drivers on the Live USB are for this computer instead of my >Thinkpad. Has anyone else had an issue like this? Can you please help me?
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>>60874463
I'm probably going to switch to gentoo next week when I have more free time.
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>>60869674
>mfw this place isn't friendly
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>>60874508
compared to the rest of /g/ it is
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>>60874482
> maybe I partitioned it badly or something
Unlikely to an extent, ultimately the installer SHOULD have made a guess about how much storage it needs and SHOULD throw an error if it somehow can't write files.

Maybe switching VT (ctrl-alt-f1 to f12) might reveal a terminal with a log output?

I can't help you beyond that, not actually familiar with Fedora's installer.
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>>60874446
You download the source package, change the conf options and rebuild.
It's fairly easy.
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>>60874526
>ctrl+f kill yourself
>3 matches
too unfriendly
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>>60874540
Thanks! See, >>60874508? This place is friendly.

Have you heard of a SQUASHFS error? I have a bunch of those.
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>>60874446
You might simply be running Gentoo if that happens often, but if it only happens occasionally just install your own compiled sauce to /usr/local or create an actual package for your distro that suits your taste.
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>>60873869
she is a keeper
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>>60874585
>>60874585
whats this
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>>60874579
No, it's just a front. The first time I posted here someone called me a retard.
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>>60873869
>shes very nice but not very pretty and also fairly autistic
You can't get both. You either get someone you can live with, or someone you can show to your friends akin to a walking key fob. Such is life.
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>>60874579
>Have you heard of a SQUASHFS error? I have a bunch of those.
Uh, that is not good. Squashfs is a compressed filesystem.

It will not have been used in your installation (which will use ext4, xfs, btrfs or whatever rather than such a mostly read-only compressed filesystem), so that's almost certainly your live USB stick reporting that it has gotten a decompression error on its data.

You kinda need to fix the live USB somehow. Maybe re-download the installer medium and re-deploy it with a different live USB creator tool. Maybe also check the stick itself for damaged sectors.
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>>60869674
>GNU
>Never even used Solaris, the superior Unix OS
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Hey guys, I'm running Linux Mint, with the latest version of wine-stable (v2.0.1). I'm playing some old games, which use MIDI audio files and they're not playing, did some googling and it turns out Linux doesn't support it by default.

I've looked up the archwiki article but it's horribly outdated and following what it says doesn't seem to work for me, anyone know how to get a game to play midi files through wine? Like, just tell me the bare minimum needed
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>>60874626
install gentoo
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anyone have any idea why openxcom seems to only install on LTS versions of Ubuntu? I like to use a bunch of 17-4 better support for printers in the PS4 controller but one of my favorite games doesn't install on it.
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>>60874626
https://wiki.winehq.org/MIDI - not the best written Wiki entry, but it has a few things you can try.
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>bill gates
>glorous programmer
>windows file manager with thumbnails

>linus torvalds
>bad programmer
>linux file manager without thumbnails

do I need to say more
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>>60874613
It was installing itself using ext4. The USB is very nearly brand new, so I don't know what could have gone wrong with it.

Do I just need to quit the installation? Will it work eventually if I leave it for long enough?
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>>60873783
>Roomate
>a woman
>you are not fucking her
If she is not a trap, kys my man

Also unrelated;
I built your meme kernel and installed it on an old ass PC. Why does tmpfs not show up on gparted or fdisk. I set up a mount point for me tmp folder but I can't get an indication of whether its actually working or not. How I do this?
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>>60874722
>tmp_24981-images(2)1718809525.jpg
what kind of redditery is this?
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>>60874722
Friendly thread.
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>>60874718
works on my machine doe
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>>60874736
Firefox for mobile does that for all filenames, for me at least.
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>>60874736
Fuck off desu, im phone posting.
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>>60874768
dumb phoneposter
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>>60874722
>>60874768
>He's a phoneposter and thinks his shit opinions mean anything.
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>>60874718
>linux file manager without thumbnails
There are already 5 things wrong with this.
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>>60874773
>Much faggotry no answers
You brainlets don't even understand the technology you are shilling
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>>60874791
gtfo my board phonefag
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>>60874791
Phoneposters opinions belong in the trash.
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>>60874791
I'd rather take makifags than phoneposters
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>>60874768
>posting from a listening device
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>>60874613
Hi, it's me again. I switched off the laptop and plugged the USB into this computer to scan it for errors, and this computer doesn't even recognise it. So it sounds like I have done an extreme whoopsie somewhere.
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>>60874807
>>60874808
Masking your incompetencies by calling out a guy for posting on mobile instead of answering his questions. Literally Pajeet tier. You should all gas yourselves.
>>60874852
And your Jesus looks like a hobo and eats his own snort. I actually met the guy and refused to shake his poorfag hands
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>>60874875
Friendly thread, no bully allowed.
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>>60874875
When the phoneposter acts like an underage little shit, he only deserves ridicule.
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>>60874875
install gentoo
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>>60874286
Wait for an xorg bug you fagot. You will be begging for system32 comfy stable system
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>>60874921
>I dont always use linux, but when I do, I use ach linux
>>
Is there a GNU/Linux security pasta?
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>>60874955
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/security
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>>60874720
It likely won't work. If the USB hardware isn't damaged, the data on it probably still is damaged.

>>60874858
It doesn't recognize the USB stick?

Maybe something went wrong, yes. Or maybe you just have an ISO filesystem on the stick with squashfs inside rather than VFAT or NTFS.

Uh, how did you even create that stick initially?
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>>60874590
finders keepers?
girlfriend material?
bootylicious?
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>>60874992
I plug the USB in, and I get a little icon at the bottom saying there's a USB that's just been plugged in, but when I click on it, it doesn't see it, and Start > Computer (this computer uses Windows 7) doesn't see it at all. It could well be a filesystem issue, I guess, but how would I rectify that?

I created the drive using Fedora Media Writer, by the way.
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>>60875116
This brainlet wont last a day in the GNU/Linux ecosystem
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>>60875116
>I created the drive using Fedora Media Writer, by the way.
Never used that one before.

I will suggest just trying LinuxLive USB Creator, unetbootin, Universal USB Installer or YUMI (all of them are third party live USB creation tools). One of these might just fix everything if the stick is actually okay in terms of hardware.

Also "verify" your fedora ISO by pointing bittorrent at its location, or checksumming it.
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>>60874617
>implying
I used Solaris-derived products for years, including running all my personal server infrastructure off of SmartOS. Linux is simply better nowadays.
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>>60875178
PS: The Windows thing to actually see and manage raw block devices (regardless of filesystem) is somewhere in some commandlet for disk management under administrative tools or however that is called, just in case if you want to see if the stick was there.

There also is of course the device manager thing that might show the USB stick as attached hardware.
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>>60874753
How did you get that? Genuinely curious.
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>>60875178
>unetbootin
What is etcher.io? Try burning the image using etcher anon, though its based on hipster tech it is good for windows fags
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>>60875227
https://jkisielewicz.fedorapeople.org/#org9ba33c6
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>>60875232
> What is etcher.io?
Surely yet another live usb creation tool?

I myself think most of them are retarded easy, but if you say this one is better, then maybe anon should try it. I haven't yet.
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>>60871395
It's Unix though
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>>60875178
The official Fedora website says to download Fedora Media Writer, which then downloads the .iso for you and makes it bootable. FMW a shit, by the way; I would rather have used Rufus or something, but Fedora seems very insistent that I use its terrible meme installer: https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/

>>60875157
I lack knowledge, but I'm a fast learner. If you tell me how to resurrect a USB when the computer refuses to acknowledge that it even exists, then I'll know and you can get a warm feeling of friendliness in the friendly thread instead of being a dickhole.
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>>60875360
> The official Fedora website says to download Fedora Media Writer, which then downloads the .iso for you and makes it bootable.
Yea, not blaming you or anything, but since it apparently failed somehow to write properly (you got a data corruption type of error during install), I suggest using torrent to verify the ISO, and then use another USB creation tool like etcher.io the other anon pointed out or the ones I mentioned to have a better chance to succeed on a retry.

Of course we haven't eliminated the possibility that your USB stick is broken either (new or not, they can break), but eh, it's most expedient to just try a different tool after you know the ISO is okay.
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>>60874718
you're lazy even for a window shill. Think about that next time you're squatting down at your designated shitting street.
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Hey, I have a dream, and I want help to fulfill it.

I would like to be able to get almost real time feed of the threads and chans/imageboards I am following.

Like, in my desktop, in a cool terminal way, I can see the threads and topics I am following.

Just to not have to keep checking that imageboard that just have one reply per day. Sometimes I even forgot that exist.

So, how can I make it? In a conky way.
>>
Why does
xbps-install -Suv
always add 50-200MB to my root partition? I'm running it once every one-two days, so it's not like I'd expect huge major updates during that time. At this rate it takes only a couple months to have my root grow by several GB - without installing any new packages whatsoever.

This can't be normal. What am I doing wrong?
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Is something wrong with arch?
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How do I edit a read only conf file? I was able to edit it before, but now I can't even do it as root.
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>>60875477
What are the permissions?
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>>60875398
Yeah, it's shit. When I first downloaded it, it wouldn't even start up, like these people also experienced: https://github.com/MartinBriza/MediaWriter/issues/21

But everyone here is so friendly that I don't mind :3
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>>60875487

Dunno. I'm almost terminal illiterate Mint user.
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>>60875487
>>60875477
Open your terminal, type cd [file path] to get to the directory where the file you want to edit is and type dir "[file]" to show the permissions for the specific file.
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>>60875429
Script it with https://scrapy.org/ or such. Of course there's multiple web framework things for every remotely popular programming language, so if you don't like python just use what your favourite programming language supports.

Though many people just use in-browser user script / in-app thread watchers.
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>>60875433
And now I didn't update for like a week and it requires 120MB disk space, which is pretty average.

Does every update just take a certain amount of disk for no reason, independently of how much is actually updating?
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>>60875537
PS: Apart from that there is of course also this:
https://github.com/4chan/4chan-API

Might be preferable for resource utilization, but it's of course more specific to this indian brand shilling board.
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>>60875526
>>60875487
>>60875477
What exactly is the file you want to edit?
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>>60875537
>://scrapy.org
I don't know how to code, but, man, this is perfect!

I didn't even know this exist! Thank you anon!
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>>60875441
I think I had a similar thing happen, had to disable pgp signature checking in pacman (forget how or where)
>>60875477
chmod?
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>>60875526

bash: cd: /etc/lsb-release: Not a directory
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>>60875590

/etc/lsb-release
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>>60875610
Also see >>60875586 (there are obviously also JSON frameworks for Python etc.)

I guess if you never programmed anything much, this might still not be trivial - but it could be a week's free time project to learn how to get something like it done. It's not going to be *immensely* hard to do.
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>>60875700
>https://github.com/4chan/4chan-API
If you think I can do it I will do it, I really thought it woulb be something hard.

I will try to understand it, but when I see a code I got scared.
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>>60875251
>gtk2 only
Ah well, here's hoping gtk3 gets un-fucked some day.
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>>60875157
thats not very friendly
>>
I'm on ubuntu I was playing with the firewall but it seemed to have broken and now I cant get on the internet, how do I fix or should I just uninstall firewall and then download it if maybe that werks...anything would help
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>>60875355
its shite tho
>>
Best distro for a begginer? Ubuntu, OpenSUSE....
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>>60875858
LFS
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>>60875858
slackware
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>>60875846

That should work.
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New: >>60875887 :weN
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>>60875858

Mint or Ubuntu Mate.
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>>60875863
Live For Speed?

>>60875868
Why

Also, KDE, Gnome, xfce?
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>>60875756
I'd say you have a good chance to get something working in a week if you keep at it - but I don't guarantee it.

People's learning speed for scripting and programming is just very different.
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>>60875904
>there are STILL people recommending linux mint
wtf
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>>60875904
Ubuntu 16.04 with unity or the 17.something that comes with gnome?

Also will I have to reinstall when a new version comes out?
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can I have emacs key in termite?
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>>60875912
Is there a way that can I learn script?

I didn't even know they were different things.
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>>60875890
Cool thanks bud
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>>60875938
ther are 1 billion different books, tutorials, guides, theres no "just read this"
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>>60875938
just read this https://automatetheboringstuff.com/
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>>60875905
Linux From Scratch
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>>60875981
>python
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>>60875994
GNU/Linux*
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>>60876003
you can make it with busybox tho
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>>60875956
>>60875981
Okay, thank yuou again.

I didn't regret came here, thanks bud.
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>>60869674
has anyone here actually met this hairy dead-skin eating maniac? how bad does he smell, I must know.
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I'm getting this problem with my X220 where it won't connect to my TV. I plug it in and the TV gets no signal, but my laptop gets unresponsive too about half the time. I have it set so that its screen turns off when it's plugged in, and even thought I'm not connected the screen goes dark. What's worse is that when I unplug it the screen stays dark and I can't even adjust the volume. Usually I can get it back on by logging out but sometimes I have to shut it down manually. I'm not sure if the problem is with my computer's hardware, the HDMI cable, the TV, or my software. Until today it was all working fine.

By the way, I'm running Ubuntu.
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>>60876819
>>60875897
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>>60875858
Use Fedora. It's the most relevant to the real world you're going to get. Most of the industry is using CentOS, Red Hat, SUSE or Oracle Linux (Pretty much RHEL if you think about it). The reason I recommend Fedora is because of the extensive documentation where you need a subscription (expensive) to access many of the Red Hat or SUSE Linux resources.

Try them in a VM first before making a commitment to them, also do research and see if your hardware is going to have an outright problem and how to fix it.
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